I love it when they go to Italy and don't speak the language, don't know the manners and just don't fit in at all. Then they come back and say "It was like coming home!". They are about as Italian as Chinese noodles.
Funny thing is, reality is like that. I‘m no american or italian, from a country in Europe with the ancestors being from Asia, and there are huugee differences between our people in Europe, and those from homeland. Even when it comes to crime.
American-Italians talking about how they are so proud of their Italian-ness while knowing absolutely nothing about their culture, all while eating Americanized Chinese food. Gotta love those little details in this show.
@@whatamidoingeatingsushi2677 they come from a 19th century Italy that was totally Isolated and backward. Their ancestors came from villages that didn’t even know the next village. So that Italian American culture came from this it has nothing to do now with the modern Italian culture at all they both evolved separately and different
Every Italian-American is like that. Hell, every ethnic group in the US is like that. Italians, Irish, Africans, all the same. The US is always so divided because of that. All of them are americans
@@theportugueselegend I think one of the most interesting experiences I had in the USA was someone unironically introducing themselves to me as my own people while carrying none of the trappings or history.....and saying our words wrong. I don't even hate them, it's just a little depressing for them.
@@clairestark9024 It's a little bit ignorant at least 😂 I'm an italian descendant myself, but my grandfather came to Portugal instead of the US. I'm proud and kno how to speak italian, but I am definetly portuguese!
@@isaacster5027 we live in the age of information, literally the compendium of all human knowledge at our fingertips, and we as a society can't be fucked, there was a time I remember when if you wanted to learn about something you had to cart your ass down to the fuckin library and hope to hell they have whatever it is you're looking for, and good luck with that if you're looking for anything obscure... Yet people back then knew more about history. Fucking insanity.
Meadow is such a wonderful character. She’s the apple of Tony’s eye but she calls out his bullshit from day one, and has inherited all his shrewdness and capability. You can tell she’s his clear favourite over the constant disappointment that is AJ by how he talks about her with such warmth, particularly in the later seasons. Plus when Coco is creepy with her he beats him half to death without a moments hesitation. Incredible chemistry between them.
If there had been more seasons after Tony's death (which is in a way linked to her appearance on the scene), would she have entered the system? Like young Michael Corleone when his father was incapacitated and his brother Sunny showing that he is not up to the job?
@@joachimsaxer4812 I think they were implying that her legal career was probably going to just end up with her defending mafiosos and justifying it to herself by pretending to believe all the stuff about Italians still being an oppressed minority in America. She does start going out with Patsy's son which is pretty much going to wed her into the life permanently. Its pretty sad all around, she's smart enough to know better and for quite some time, especially after Jackie Jr is killed, it seems like she can really see how awful the mafia lifestyle really is past all the mythologizing, but family and plain greed causes her to slowly choose to willingly forget about that by the end of the show. I think you can see that her parents aren't very happy that she ends up that way, like they were much more interested in her becoming a doctor than a lawyer probably because of that reason.
Even in the final series scene at the diner…..Tony asks where Meadow is looking down eating and Carm says she had to go to the doctor and Tony immediately looks up then carm says to switch birth control. Then he shrugs and goes back to eating.
@@malleableconcrete I like to think she switches from defense to prosecutor and becomes a shark at it, targeting the Lupertazzi family specifically. In private she hunts down the hitman who killed her father, hits on him at a bar and shoots him either in an alley outside or just before sex. She covers it up and no one discovers the murder. Then she goes after the rest as a prosecutor. Would make for a good follow up miniseries or movie.
one of my favorite things in the series is when they brought in Furio as a character, highlighting how all these proud Italian Americans cant speak a word in Italian.
Thats actually not true, you hear Feach speak it to Junior. You hear Furio speak it to Tony and Paulie and them both understand it. Junior talks about his mother and father being in America and not knowing the language so he must have had it spoken to him and he had to speak it back to his parents.
I've heard them say a lot of Italian words. ba fungool (or va fungool), madone, ricchione, fanook, goomah, schifosa, stugots, gabagool, manigot, etc. Plus Pussy (Salvatore "Big Pussy" Bonpensiero) clearly translates Furio's Italian when they're talking about a witness against Tony in Dave Scatino's sporting goods store. czcams.com/video/WHpPOs6RCo4/video.html 2:22
The main thing they learn from Furio is that there has always been more than one Italy: Napoletans hate Christopher Columbus because he was a Genoese, and they have always looked down on us.
@@dkjkaden Feach and Junior speaking Italian out of how many characters in the show who all tried to portray as a "Italian" but in fact they're American. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@jayr3381 they're portrayed as Italian American not just Italian But thats not what was originally posted, it was posted that *NONE* of the characters could speak Italian and I showed 2 that could. I dont care if there were 5,000 characters in the show if you say none can speak and I prove at least 2 can than your point is in fact pointless
The idea was that Carmine Sr was the real boss during the late 80’s RICO sweep and that they were organized tight enough that that feds didn’t even realize they prosecuted the wrong “boss”.
But Agent Harris mentioned Vito Genovese to Tony when he told him that NY was plotting to whack him in the final season, so this can't be right. However, it DOES make alot of sense as The Lupertazzis do resemble the Genovese Family the most out of the Five Families. Maybe it was a continuity error?...
Did they ever explicitly say it was based on the Genovese Family? I mean they might have a lot of inspiration from it but I dont think it was definetly a standin for that
@@miles_schiavi2584 actually America was discovered two years before Amerigo made the map, by some other guy, who was financed by an irish (iirc) called "Amerike". He would finance him if what he discovered would be named after him.
Lol! ....I found that funny cause I don't watch this show really, and I'm always similar comparisons when mad , not realizing this ever happened lol! I say things like when angry at haters : like how in the hell could da vanci ever survive in this culture if can't, they'd eat him alive ect ect lol! ...yes I've done this repeatedly over the yrs...lol! I'd be lying if I said many men don't secretly wanna sound like a mafia don sometimes lol! So yeah I liked that.
The funny thing is most viewers are/ were way more like AJ than they’re like Tony. But they want to think of themselves as being Tony, so they hate AJ.
Yeah, I loved that AJ never got given the tired storyline of ambition to become mob boss always trying to impress Tony but failing. It teased at it in moments, but never followed through. I wanted to like AJ. But they still made him really frustrating and annoying just in another way. I feel like they could never decide whether to make him the dumb ass or an intelligent son... Again showing glimpses of both. Really wanted him to somehow shine by the end. I was disappointed. Thankful in the end that his screen time seemed to diminish in the last few eps iirc
Ecléctico Iconoclasta yea but like it’s his kids u expect them to know a little bit about his backround and tony seems surprised and wants to keep his kids in the dark with it
Tony should know by that point that he can't bullshit Meadow- she sees right through him but plays along. If she went down that road, she'd be just as dangerous as Tony later in life.
I think the point is that you don't talk about "this thing of ours". Wtf is mafia and La Cosa Nostra? His kids might easily slip out info about Tony being in the mob.
It is amazing how you follow the series and this family grows up while you move through the episodes. James was rockstar. And this amazing dinner conversation and hundreds like these in the series are what makes The Sopranos just the best ever made.
Lmao exactly! I’m Mauritian and my family is descended from Andhra Pradesh, and we switch from being Mauritian to Indian to Telugu constantly whenever we need to remotely celebrate ‘our people’s’ achievements 😂😂😂
How come if you're black, asian, hispanic, you get to keep that no matter where you end up. But if you're Italian or Irish, you don't get to keep your ethnicity after two generations have passed?
@@salvatorer7758 Thats with every culture though. And it all boils down to how involved with your culture you are. I know tons of furst Gen Mexican Americans that cant speak a lick of spanish. Same with black people. Yes they're of African decent but they're vastly different from folks living in one of the countries of Africa.
@@salvatorer7758 black, asian and hispanic are not nationalities. Anyway, it's the same with every ethnicity: nobody in Africa considers Kanye an African.
@@salvatorer7758 Africans also think that Afro-American people are simply americans, so are Spanish people don't think that american latinos are related to them. Not only emigrants have their own culture, usually natives see more difference in emigrants than they do themselves. Mafia is not Italian, it's Sicilian or Neapolitan.
@@sushestvobezvolnoe well, Sicily and Neaples are part of Italy and have been for most of their existence (source, I'm Italian from Sicily). Also, the strongest mafia at the moment is by far the 'ndrangheta from Calabria. Cosa Nostra and Camorra have been left behind.
I'm Armenian, and we have the same thing between families. Always praising ourselves like "we are the first Christian nation, we did this we did that and so on"
@@adriande1 But Tony has never been quite as dangerous handling women than men. Now if Meadow tried that on Chrissy or Richie, and especially Ralphie...
Ussually when one of the kids swear in front of tony and carmela, they say "AYY!" together. This time AJ said something Tony wanted to say and was late on the AYY behind carmela 😂
One thing I've learned from working in a Chinese buffet restaurant is that Italians absolutely love the stuff. Not the authentic Chinese food obviously, but the chicken balls and lo mein. Large parties of Italian ladies were one of the most common sights on weekends.
As an “Italian” American I honestly prefer Americanized “Chinese” food that Americanized “Italian” food. I’ve had woefully little exposure to genuine cuisine from either culture, but the food I had in Chinatown and Little Italy were some of the best meals I ever had
It almost like Gandolfini is laughing for real because the line to end that conversation is so stupid. After all the inventors and whatnots the most deserving of the winner smile is a complete asshole singer who was a bitch for the mob :D
@@Aivottaja "asshole singer who was a bitch for the mob" just stop you're embarrassing yourself. does he remind you of someone who bullied you growing up or something? the mob adored the man. one of carlo gambino's daughters is named after him
I like how most Italian Americans are so proud of being Italian yet they don’t even speak Italian fluently or even pronounce Italian the way it should be, same with Mexican American chicanos.
There's an explanation for that. Most Italians came to America when there wasn't a standardized Italian language. It's been less than 100 years since what we know as Italian (derived from the Tuscan language) became the first language for the majority of Italians. What "Italian" the descendants of these immigrants do speak is from southern languages like Neapolitan and Sicilian.
Depends on the Chicano really. Many keep Spanish alive but there are also those that have no connection or even avoid connection to their heritage cuz of whitewashing and generational insecurities.
Seems AJ had suspected or knew his father was is in the mafia and knew not to talk about it, true definition of Omerta, especially telling his sister to shut the f up when she was bringing up the 'mafia history' as she probably suspects Tony is in it.
0:57 Debatable. Meuci claims that Bell stole his ideas (Same claim was made by Elisha Gray about his own invention of telephone), but that's insanity: if that would be true, Bell would've need to falsify every single notebook and letter describing how he came to his conclusions. Also Meuci's patent caveat does not describe electronic transmission of vocal sound.
Seems like thats a table in their kitchen, you can see the kitchen island behind them. Havent seen the show in awhile just going by whats in this scene.
@@joeking5679 yeah, thats just the breakfast table in/next to the kitchen. They have a main dining area but whats the point if its just the 4 of them eating. I have rich family who have houses like that. Literally a 6 person table IN the kitchen, and then the dining room right next to the kitchen.
Litteraly had no idea Italians families have the exact same conversations that black ones do. Like litteraly change every word from "Italian" to "black" and it's a mirror.
Lucky Luc put the Commission together, and some would argue "organized" crime, at least in America, but yeah there has been a Cosa Nostra in Italy for a couple hundred years. Stupid Meadow.
I guess Meadow isn't aware of the Sicilian Vespers and the Blessed Pauls. Or was she keeping that info as her trump card if the discussion got serious enough?
Pretty sure every ethnic group with immigrant parents or second generation does this.. they tell u all tje great things ur ppl did and ignore the bad stuff. And talk about how oppressed they r.
Love how they sit at that table with chinese and other delivery food aswell as coke cans. Its just a sea of packaging materials and delivery food and i love the irony of it.
And by the way the Chinese were the ones who invented noodles which the Italians would later adapt into their own style of cuisines and thus we have spaghetti.
It’s funny… When I watched the show initially, I didn’t appreciate how good Robert Iler and Jamie Lynn Sigler were as actors. It’s been since watching the talking Sopranos podcast with Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa commenting on how good those two were that I started noticing it. And this scene is a great example of it.
Salvatore Maranzano was the one who form the five families. Lucky Luciano formed the commission which consisted of Chicago outfit, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles.
I love the framing in this scene. Tony & Meadow together and Carmela & AJ together to show which child is most like which parent. Tony and Meadow are more intellectually scheming and thought provoking, while Carmela and AJ tend to be submissive and try avoiding the issues in life.
Did she even change that much, though? She just became more attractive and got a job, basically. AJ on the other hand went from being cool, to being boring, then insecure, then an estrogenic cuckold by the end of the show.
I love it when they go to Italy and don't speak the language, don't know the manners and just don't fit in at all. Then they come back and say "It was like coming home!". They are about as Italian as Chinese noodles.
that's it... you get soft drink of choice
shut up bruh
Funny thing is, reality is like that. I‘m no american or italian, from a country in Europe with the ancestors being from Asia, and there are huugee differences between our people in Europe, and those from homeland. Even when it comes to crime.
"Commandatore"
@@shridharambady2069 That's respect!!!
American-Italians talking about how they are so proud of their Italian-ness while knowing absolutely nothing about their culture, all while eating Americanized Chinese food. Gotta love those little details in this show.
@@whatamidoingeatingsushi2677 they come from a 19th century Italy that was totally Isolated and backward. Their ancestors came from villages that didn’t even know the next village. So that Italian American culture came from this it has nothing to do now with the modern Italian culture at all they both evolved separately and different
Don’t bring Food into this. FOOD is universal.
That's actually real life.
Its actually a dutch version of chinese food
So, you're saying Italian people can only eat Italian food, Chinese can only eat Chinese food, etc.? Interesting...
the face meadow makes when she pronounces the five families is great. she couldnt look smugger.
wsant one of the originals , wsa originally called Luciano family
she would have told them about the Sicilian Vespers if Tony pressed her further
Then she says 'how can there be two antichrists, there was only one Christ' like a fucking idiot.
0:26. Good one Tony.
@@simonmcnamee619 why is she an idiot the boy is fucking dumb
It's funny how Tony passionately talks about being Italian when he's really as American as you get. This show was good as showcasing that.
Every Italian-American is like that. Hell, every ethnic group in the US is like that. Italians, Irish, Africans, all the same. The US is always so divided because of that. All of them are americans
There is huge difference between ethnicity and nationality.
@@theportugueselegend I think one of the most interesting experiences I had in the USA was someone unironically introducing themselves to me as my own people while carrying none of the trappings or history.....and saying our words wrong.
I don't even hate them, it's just a little depressing for them.
@@clairestark9024 It's a little bit ignorant at least 😂 I'm an italian descendant myself, but my grandfather came to Portugal instead of the US. I'm proud and kno how to speak italian, but I am definetly portuguese!
Hammered home when they get to visit their "homeland" and their Italian counterparts are like "lol, look at these guys!"
I feel like the whole series could just be this dinner never ending and we leave the show more educated about Italian history.
Shit they should remake it and just make it that. Lol yeah it would educate this generation a lot more
@@isaacster5027 we live in the age of information, literally the compendium of all human knowledge at our fingertips, and we as a society can't be fucked, there was a time I remember when if you wanted to learn about something you had to cart your ass down to the fuckin library and hope to hell they have whatever it is you're looking for, and good luck with that if you're looking for anything obscure... Yet people back then knew more about history. Fucking insanity.
@@alyssarichardson2544 okay boomer
Except Italians didn’t invent the pasta.
American history
“Why would people who eat with sticks invent something that you need a fork to eat with”
He says while eating chinese food with a fork
That’s the irony
@@MilesMMS thats why im pointing it out
You can eat chinese food with a fork, you can’t eat pasta with sticks
They are not eating real chinese food, its chinese amrtican just like they are not Italian but Italian-American
@@ovs4744 false
“alexander graham bell was italian?” - the most iconic quote from the sopranos
It was the one who robbed the italian inventor
Neither was James Caan.
Gary Cooper was gay?
I prefer, also from Eeaanthony Junyah:
“I tot we wuh Napoli Dapoli or somthin’.”
Carmela: Napole-TAN!
He was gay, Gary Cooper?
“Who invented the mafia?”
*Tony.exe has stopped working*
Buy land, Meadow! Cuz god ain't makin' any more of it...
"There is no Mafia"
@@symbiosisai Wow, listen to Mr Mob Boss!
@@TraumaER What did you call me?
@@symbiosisai Mr Mob Boss
Meadow is such a wonderful character. She’s the apple of Tony’s eye but she calls out his bullshit from day one, and has inherited all his shrewdness and capability. You can tell she’s his clear favourite over the constant disappointment that is AJ by how he talks about her with such warmth, particularly in the later seasons. Plus when Coco is creepy with her he beats him half to death without a moments hesitation. Incredible chemistry between them.
If there had been more seasons after Tony's death (which is in a way linked to her appearance on the scene), would she have entered the system? Like young Michael Corleone when his father was incapacitated and his brother Sunny showing that he is not up to the job?
@@joachimsaxer4812 I think they were implying that her legal career was probably going to just end up with her defending mafiosos and justifying it to herself by pretending to believe all the stuff about Italians still being an oppressed minority in America. She does start going out with Patsy's son which is pretty much going to wed her into the life permanently.
Its pretty sad all around, she's smart enough to know better and for quite some time, especially after Jackie Jr is killed, it seems like she can really see how awful the mafia lifestyle really is past all the mythologizing, but family and plain greed causes her to slowly choose to willingly forget about that by the end of the show. I think you can see that her parents aren't very happy that she ends up that way, like they were much more interested in her becoming a doctor than a lawyer probably because of that reason.
Even in the final series scene at the diner…..Tony asks where Meadow is looking down eating and Carm says she had to go to the doctor and Tony immediately looks up then carm says to switch birth control. Then he shrugs and goes back to eating.
@@malleableconcrete I like to think she switches from defense to prosecutor and becomes a shark at it, targeting the Lupertazzi family specifically. In private she hunts down the hitman who killed her father, hits on him at a bar and shoots him either in an alley outside or just before sex. She covers it up and no one discovers the murder. Then she goes after the rest as a prosecutor. Would make for a good follow up miniseries or movie.
@@jbrewerman2 no it wouldn’t that sounds ridiculous, never get in to screen writing.
Not to mention the inventor of the Shinebox! That's right, Italian.
hahahaha
That word just makes you laugh so hard Shinebox Lol
I don't shine shoes anymore.
I'm Australian Shine Box is just so funny First time I heard it was GoodFellas Billy batts
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Sopranos was great, I wish Italian people were real 😍
larger than life
Myth busters
And Italian food. Wish that was real also. It looks tasty af
They are. Go to the east coast US. Jersey up to Rhode Island/Mass. Full of the stereotypical American-Italians that you see in this show.
Did they even really exisht?
"Why would people who eat with sticks, invent something that you need a fork to eat" That line made me holler laughing 😂
one of my favorite things in the series is when they brought in Furio as a character, highlighting how all these proud Italian Americans cant speak a word in Italian.
Thats actually not true, you hear Feach speak it to Junior. You hear Furio speak it to Tony and Paulie and them both understand it. Junior talks about his mother and father being in America and not knowing the language so he must have had it spoken to him and he had to speak it back to his parents.
I've heard them say a lot of Italian words. ba fungool (or va fungool), madone, ricchione, fanook, goomah, schifosa, stugots, gabagool, manigot, etc. Plus Pussy (Salvatore "Big Pussy" Bonpensiero) clearly translates Furio's Italian when they're talking about a witness against Tony in Dave Scatino's sporting goods store. czcams.com/video/WHpPOs6RCo4/video.html 2:22
The main thing they learn from Furio is that there has always been more than one Italy: Napoletans hate Christopher Columbus because he was a Genoese, and they have always looked down on us.
@@dkjkaden Feach and Junior speaking Italian out of how many characters in the show who all tried to portray as a "Italian" but in fact they're American. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@jayr3381 they're portrayed as Italian American not just Italian But thats not what was originally posted, it was posted that *NONE* of the characters could speak Italian and I showed 2 that could. I dont care if there were 5,000 characters in the show if you say none can speak and I prove at least 2 can than your point is in fact pointless
When Meadow recited the five families, that is inconsistent with the show's fictional universe where the Genovese are actually the Lupertazzis.
The idea was that Carmine Sr was the real boss during the late 80’s RICO sweep and that they were organized tight enough that that feds didn’t even realize they prosecuted the wrong “boss”.
But Agent Harris mentioned Vito Genovese to Tony when he told him that NY was plotting to whack him in the final season, so this can't be right. However, it DOES make alot of sense as The Lupertazzis do resemble the Genovese Family the most out of the Five Families. Maybe it was a continuity error?...
She didn't say the Genovese, she actually left out one of the five families, which I presume would be the Lupertazzis
Did they ever explicitly say it was based on the Genovese Family? I mean they might have a lot of inspiration from it but I dont think it was definetly a standin for that
He invented point shaving
Wasn’t America literally named after an Italian map maker? How’d they miss that one?
Yhea lmao Christopher Columbus was from The Republic of Genoa wasnt he?
@@bjornerluffy yeah, but he is talking about Amerigo vespucci, also italian
@@miles_schiavi2584 actually America was discovered two years before Amerigo made the map, by some other guy, who was financed by an irish (iirc) called "Amerike". He would finance him if what he discovered would be named after him.
@@miles_schiavi2584 Yhea I understood that, I just wanted to bring up Columbus aswell as I thought he would be the most famous example by far
Cuz they're dumb lol
We also served as a primary source of inspiration for the invention of the Mario Brothers. You are-a welcome.
The best Italians were made by the Japanese :-).
“You’d think there wasn’t a Michelangelo, the way they treat people” 😂😂😂 Tony giving it to the man
Lol! ....I found that funny cause I don't watch this show really, and I'm always similar comparisons when mad , not realizing this ever happened lol!
I say things like when angry at haters : like how in the hell could da vanci ever survive in this culture if can't, they'd eat him alive ect ect lol! ...yes I've done this repeatedly over the yrs...lol! I'd be lying if I said many men don't secretly wanna sound like a mafia don sometimes lol!
So yeah I liked that.
Michalengelo was actually black, everybody know that
I think you're confusing Michalangelo and Leonardo
michelangelo, leonardo all perverts...monarchy toys..
"They were two innocent men who got the chair because they were Italian", might be the funniest quote in the entire series
I forgot there was a small space in time where AJ was actually likable
So no fucking ziti?
I dont know about likable but definitely tolerable
The funny thing is most viewers are/ were way more like AJ than they’re like Tony. But they want to think of themselves as being Tony, so they hate AJ.
Yeah, I loved that AJ never got given the tired storyline of ambition to become mob boss always trying to impress Tony but failing. It teased at it in moments, but never followed through. I wanted to like AJ. But they still made him really frustrating and annoying just in another way. I feel like they could never decide whether to make him the dumb ass or an intelligent son... Again showing glimpses of both.
Really wanted him to somehow shine by the end.
I was disappointed. Thankful in the end that his screen time seemed to diminish in the last few eps iirc
He was never likeable - he was a dumb fat slob here too
I love how when Christ is mentioned, Tony goes straight to Sinatra haha
It scares me when Tony says “is there something you want to say to me?!?”to His own goddamn kids
I don´t think he would go as far a wacking his own kids
Ecléctico Iconoclasta yea but like it’s his kids u expect them to know a little bit about his backround and tony seems surprised and wants to keep his kids in the dark with it
@@BayAreaMike99 duh
Tony should know by that point that he can't bullshit Meadow- she sees right through him but plays along. If she went down that road, she'd be just as dangerous as Tony later in life.
I think the point is that you don't talk about "this thing of ours". Wtf is mafia and La Cosa Nostra?
His kids might easily slip out info about Tony being in the mob.
It's amazing how they can make this dinner scene feel so real.
Yeah it's like if you're a friend of either AJ or Meadow that's been invited
It is amazing how you follow the series and this family grows up while you move through the episodes. James was rockstar. And this amazing dinner conversation and hundreds like these in the series are what makes The Sopranos just the best ever made.
Coca Cola should've never change their 90's cans
Mhmm exactly!!, seriously 💯🎞
They were so good
Lol burzum pfp
This wasnt in the 90's
@@harakaat9 this season was recorded in the 90’s
Tony: "Is their something you want to say to me?"
Meadow: *smugly* "I just like history like you dad..." lol 😆😆😆
This is hilarious...every ethnic group does this. Replace Italian with black and those were family BBQs with my family growing up.
it’s so funny bruh! i’m glad you said this.
Lmao exactly! I’m Mauritian and my family is descended from Andhra Pradesh, and we switch from being Mauritian to Indian to Telugu constantly whenever we need to remotely celebrate ‘our people’s’ achievements 😂😂😂
yes Ras
The sopranos really nails family and community dynamics. I've seen similar interactions in my own community and I'm half indian half coloured.
@@WRA1TH. He could be talking about Italy tbf
USA is a different ballgame though because they were forcibly transported there
Funny thing, Italians from Italy consider these people 100% American
How come if you're black, asian, hispanic, you get to keep that no matter where you end up. But if you're Italian or Irish, you don't get to keep your ethnicity after two generations have passed?
@@salvatorer7758
Thats with every culture though. And it all boils down to how involved with your culture you are. I know tons of furst Gen Mexican Americans that cant speak a lick of spanish. Same with black people. Yes they're of African decent but they're vastly different from folks living in one of the countries of Africa.
@@salvatorer7758 black, asian and hispanic are not nationalities. Anyway, it's the same with every ethnicity: nobody in Africa considers Kanye an African.
@@salvatorer7758 Africans also think that Afro-American people are simply americans, so are Spanish people don't think that american latinos are related to them. Not only emigrants have their own culture, usually natives see more difference in emigrants than they do themselves. Mafia is not Italian, it's Sicilian or Neapolitan.
@@sushestvobezvolnoe well, Sicily and Neaples are part of Italy and have been for most of their existence (source, I'm Italian from Sicily). Also, the strongest mafia at the moment is by far the 'ndrangheta from Calabria. Cosa Nostra and Camorra have been left behind.
I must say, that little smile Tony and Carmela shared at the end warmed my heart.
AJ: "The two Anti-christs who got the electric chair in Massachusetts?"
Meadow: "ME-TEE-OR"
😂 you deserve credit for this one
Jesus upon seeing the second anti-christ: "How much more betrayal can I take?!"
AJ: Take it easy
@@Dominian1 I feel like I just got stabbed in the heart!
Lmao this comment the best one on the page
I'm Armenian, and we have the same thing between families. Always praising ourselves like "we are the first Christian nation, we did this we did that and so on"
preach
I imagine theres a lot of bagging on turks too
@@nikosfilipino yeah sometimes, not often
@Jiraiya Sennin who cares... I'm an atheist
@Jiraiya Sennin that's the thing, these facts you're telling me, was the waste of time. I just wanted to point that out
LOL Omg look at Carmela's hair. Imagine all that hairspray.
ss4vegeta1 Who said its hairspray lol. There is something about Mary ring a bell?
LOL yep!
It’s so mafia wife style
She looks pretty good tho
@@MM-eo2oz Nah, she's pretty fine for her age.
Damn, Meadow’s got balls to ask her father that. Good show.
How so?
@@TheMach93 Because Tony Soprano is scary.
@@adriande1 But Tony has never been quite as dangerous handling women than men. Now if Meadow tried that on Chrissy or Richie, and especially Ralphie...
Ussually when one of the kids swear in front of tony and carmela, they say "AYY!" together. This time AJ said something Tony wanted to say and was late on the AYY behind carmela 😂
The thing about the inventor of the telephone is actually true, lost the patent to Alexander Graham Bell
He never had the makings of a varsity inventor.
Guess it comes with the territory
Justice for Tesla
@@cactusmalone This shit actually makes me afraid of becoming something great.
He only lost it to Alexander Graham Bell because he didn't get to the patent office first.
Looking back through the series, Meadow was absolutely slaying the role.
The character had a masterful grasp of the situation.
Tony legit looks more stressed here than any other time in the rest of the series
One thing I've learned from working in a Chinese buffet restaurant is that Italians absolutely love the stuff. Not the authentic Chinese food obviously, but the chicken balls and lo mein. Large parties of Italian ladies were one of the most common sights on weekends.
As an “Italian” American I honestly prefer Americanized “Chinese” food that Americanized “Italian” food. I’ve had woefully little exposure to genuine cuisine from either culture, but the food I had in Chinatown and Little Italy were some of the best meals I ever had
AJ : the only one at the table who knows what it’s all about.
AJ used to be witty!
He did 20 fucking years in the can!
He was way more smarter as a kid
@@shadywiskerz his intelligence went in reverse. Probably knew 2 languages as a baby.
Justin Jerkoff way more smarter?
@@Xxrocknrollgod 😂😂
If you don't feel hungry just watch Sopranos eating food.
Literally 🤣
Every single time 😂
I can hear those dishes clinking in my sleep
*Meadow:* "Who invented the Mafia?"
*Tony:* "Two black guys."
After his parents said Hey, AJ should've responded with, "What? I'm on your side here."
Who invented the Soprano Uploads?
Wasn’t it Borko who organized the five families? Borko, DonJunior, Tony Soprano, Sopranofan57, Capotube
HBO: _is there somethin you wanna say to me?_
When Tony said “WHAT” to his daughter... Gosh 😳
More Italians fought for the US in WWII than for Italy.
American Italians. Not quite the same
@@johnfoster1580 Not when you stop to consider how Italians were treated
@@johnfoster1580 it is quite the same,
@@mclovin7547 yes, watch a fictional movie about a fictional character with only sprinkles of real events and character. that's how jfk died.
@@mclovin7547 you have done alot of research i can see, impressive
Kings and Generals: *Heavy panting* “Sorry I’m late! Allow me to answer that question for you!”
"And of course, Francis Albert" with the grins 😂. Elite!
I didn’t get that. Can you explain what did he mean? And why did he smile?
@@gupsdhamrait Francis Albert Sinatra. Very famous and talented Italian singer. Most know him as Frank Sinatra.
Be quiet Albert
It almost like Gandolfini is laughing for real because the line to end that conversation is so stupid. After all the inventors and whatnots the most deserving of the winner smile is a complete asshole singer who was a bitch for the mob :D
@@Aivottaja "asshole singer who was a bitch for the mob" just stop you're embarrassing yourself. does he remind you of someone who bullied you growing up or something? the mob adored the man. one of carlo gambino's daughters is named after him
This was a clever little way to sneak in some history lessons...Touché Chase. Touché.
Not that clever. It's about as subtle as a brick to the face lol
If you think this clip is some sort of 'History lesson' I think you've missed the entire fucking point lol....
More like a lesson on how people reinterpret history to suit themselves. Most of it is wrong because Tony and Carm don’t read.
I like how most Italian Americans are so proud of being Italian yet they don’t even speak Italian fluently or even pronounce Italian the way it should be, same with Mexican American chicanos.
Fluently?? They don't speak it at all.
There's an explanation for that. Most Italians came to America when there wasn't a standardized Italian language. It's been less than 100 years since what we know as Italian (derived from the Tuscan language) became the first language for the majority of Italians. What "Italian" the descendants of these immigrants do speak is from southern languages like Neapolitan and Sicilian.
You don't have to be able to speak your native language to be proud of your heritage, especially when you didn't grow up in that environment
@@jasonhall947 It’s weird how much these pre-Italian languages sound like English!
Depends on the Chicano really. Many keep Spanish alive but there are also those that have no connection or even avoid connection to their heritage cuz of whitewashing and generational insecurities.
Quasimodo predicted that family dinner
"Can you just shut the fuck up about it" is one of the most authentic piece of dialogue between siblings
As a Greek with family in the US, lots of Greek-Americans are just like Tony (minus the mafia of course).
The look that Carmela gives Tony when he says, “Francis Albert” is priceless. This show is so great that I can spend all day watching clips.
Hmmm Neat and interesting name ,...anyways who is that?
@@redstaplerguyforlifepastpr5763 Sinatra
Seems AJ had suspected or knew his father was is in the mafia and knew not to talk about it, true definition of Omerta, especially telling his sister to shut the f up when she was bringing up the 'mafia history' as she probably suspects Tony is in it.
If I remember correctly, she is the one who told him about their father's business.
I love when he says “Eat with Sticks” 😂😂😂
Lmao he doesnt realize the fork is a damn stick with smaller sticks on the end, it just cant move, did Italians invent irony?
Tony really doesnt like it when Meadow hints that she knows what he does at 'work'.
I lived for those moments where Tony and Carmela actually shared a genuine understanding. And were happy even for just a moment together.
0:57 Debatable. Meuci claims that Bell stole his ideas (Same claim was made by Elisha Gray about his own invention of telephone), but that's insanity: if that would be true, Bell would've need to falsify every single notebook and letter describing how he came to his conclusions. Also Meuci's patent caveat does not describe electronic transmission of vocal sound.
Seeing Tony here after watching the last episode... Damn everything is different about him
That's what I was thinking! The way he talks and acts
It's funny how when you're eating you don't really notice the forks clinking on the dishes
but when it's recorded it is so noticeable.
I love how tiny their dining room table is, even though they are well-off.
Seems like thats a table in their kitchen, you can see the kitchen island behind them. Havent seen the show in awhile just going by whats in this scene.
@@joeking5679 yeah, thats just the breakfast table in/next to the kitchen. They have a main dining area but whats the point if its just the 4 of them eating. I have rich family who have houses like that. Literally a 6 person table IN the kitchen, and then the dining room right next to the kitchen.
Their dining room is huge... thats the little table in the kitchen
I like how every time I watch the Sopranos the food is in the square little box🤣
WHERE'S THE GABBAGOOO
I could listen to this all day. IDK why
It’s a great down to earth scene on how must family dinner table conversations can be.
Food looks good too
I always lose it with this scene! Meadow gets that smug look on her face and works that neck with her attitude! 🤣🤣🤣
"That's how mafia works."
bruh
The only good TV show that i keep telling my self I’m gonna start watching it this weekend and i always forget 🤦🏻♂️
The five families are Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese, and Lucchese.
Francis Albert Sinatra 😉
What! Prince Albert! a cock ring, is that why they laughed?
Old man Profacci. HE knew how to split his enemies!
You have to admit, AJ knows his history. How many middle schoolers today would even have an idea of who Sacco and Vanzetti were?
Litteraly had no idea Italians families have the exact same conversations that black ones do. Like litteraly change every word from "Italian" to "black" and it's a mirror.
Have you heard of humans?
@@demonmonsterdave no i haven't..mind you enlightening me lol
Yea, that's what this scene reminded me of. Completely pathetic. Always with the victim card.
We wuz kangs n shiet
@@_zigger_ haha good one Ty
An Italian invented the shine box.
She's wrong, Sicilian and southern Italian people were in Families and groups long before the 1920s.......
The 5 families were not even the first families in America
Lucky Luc put the Commission together, and some would argue "organized" crime, at least in America, but yeah there has been a Cosa Nostra in Italy for a couple hundred years. Stupid Meadow.
I guess Meadow isn't aware of the Sicilian Vespers and the Blessed Pauls. Or was she keeping that info as her trump card if the discussion got serious enough?
@@KS-xk2so risorgimento. Guiseppi Mazzini Autoriza Furti Incendi Avalenemeti
@@KS-xk2so Cosa Nostra is the name of it in America. They don't refer to it as "Mafia". That is the organization in Italy.
"Can you just stfu about it"
Straight savage
His best line in the show. No joke.
Lucky Luciano didn't invent the mafia... He just modernised it in America to what it is today...
But you can literally eat spaghetti with chopsticks 🤣🤣🤣
poor AJ he was just expressing what everyone was thinking at 1:27
Tony talks so much about his Italian pride while being a career criminal lol
Had meadow been born a man she would have been Tony’s perfect heir
I remember this episode. Good show . Hit too close to home for me sometimes . I was raised by an Italian American Step Father
Pretty sure every ethnic group with immigrant parents or second generation does this.. they tell u all tje great things ur ppl did and ignore the bad stuff. And talk about how oppressed they r.
Everybody knows Antonio Miuchii invented the jackeeeeet
Love how they sit at that table with chinese and other delivery food aswell as coke cans. Its just a sea of packaging materials and delivery food and i love the irony of it.
Anytime I watch the sopranos I want to eat lol they make the food look so good 😂
AJ is the Meg of this family. And Lawn ... I mean, Meadow is the Brian.
Fielder.
You think if the show kept going long enough they would have fucked!?
Shut up A.J.
Anyone else the least bit disturbed that Meadow is just about sitting in Tony’s lap at a table that size?!!!
Greeks do the same. Maybe our Mediterranean legacy of past grandioce is our curse and our salvation. Who knows...
Tony " oowww the Italian invented every dam thing now you eat your spaghetti!!!" 😂
And by the way the Chinese were the ones who invented noodles which the Italians would later adapt into their own style of cuisines and thus we have spaghetti.
Doubtful Etruscans likely made the progenitor of what would become pasta
I like the meal of choice here while this conversation is going on
All I know is that the first Italian didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete
Booo!! Haven’t seen this comment enough.
I love how Meadow knows exactly how to fuck with Tonys head lol.😅😅😅
It’s funny… When I watched the show initially, I didn’t appreciate how good Robert Iler and Jamie Lynn Sigler were as actors. It’s been since watching the talking Sopranos podcast with Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa commenting on how good those two were that I started noticing it. And this scene is a great example of it.
I see Sopranos video i press like instantly before watching it
Of all the things to be proud to be Italian for, the Second World War is a poor choice.
Salvatore Maranzano was the one who form the five families. Lucky Luciano formed the commission which consisted of Chicago outfit, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles.
I love the framing in this scene. Tony & Meadow together and Carmela & AJ together to show which child is most like which parent. Tony and Meadow are more intellectually scheming and thought provoking, while Carmela and AJ tend to be submissive and try avoiding the issues in life.
I like Tony's logic about spaghetti.
Meadow was so insufferable early on
It's like AJ and Meadow changed places in the likeability stakes as they aged.
@@mikewellwood1412 nailed it
Did she even change that much, though? She just became more attractive and got a job, basically.
AJ on the other hand went from being cool, to being boring, then insecure, then an estrogenic cuckold by the end of the show.