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- Skip Bayless, Keyshawn Johnson, Richard Sherman and Michael Irvin react to Rich Paul’s comments suggest LeBron James is the GOAT and faced more scrutiny than Michael Jordan.
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@knucklehill A Ricky a duncebat all him nuh exist without nigel
Yes! LeTurd is more scrutinized since declaring himself as the GOAT.
LeTurd is scrutinized because HE IS STUPID!
Why is it that Lebron fans say the same stuff Jordan lost before the finals ok cool and Pip was on the team with MJ before elevating his game, Once MJ made it to the NBA finals he never lost Finals people, MJ acknowledges he lost in the playoffs but that’s how he learned how to win and plus MJ when he lost his numbers didn’t deplete meaning he was not the one that caused the loss we can’t say that about Bron
It’s not hate it’s facts people don’t like the truth they like lies, Even when you put it all into proper context these extreme Bron fans over look facts
Key you keep say thee guys yes but Bron ain’t that 3 rd guy it’s Kobe y’all cap and contradict your selfs 😂
“They scrutinized Patrick Mahomes brother and he doesn’t even play” 😂😂😂
Had me dying laughing
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😅😅😅 that's crazy
Jackson and Britney mahomes literally are the only criticism of Patrick mahomes lol
I mean they both really suck tho so they deserve it
Like for real dancing on Sean Taylors number
😂😂😂😂
Michael Irvin is actually talking about his situation without saying it.
They all were
Sherm made it painfully obvious when he said someone can lose a career over allegations
Jordan 3-peated twice. Lebron could never do one despite on 3 super teams already. It's not even close. Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Duncan and Shaq all better than Lebron. So is Bird, Russell, Wilt and Olajuwon. Lebron not even top 10.
Sherman was contemplating why he was on this show during this segment 😂
Sherm Aint afraid of Skip... 😂That's what I love the most this debate.
Lmao Skip said “it could’ve been Scottie pippen or pippie long stockin”😂😂
That was the one for me too! 😂😂😂
@@DaveLifeTV me too 😂😂😂
Skip the glaze master 😂😂😂
He think he unc now
😂
Im a Jordan guy, but i think anyone can acknowledge that its been different for LeBron because of social media
That’s exactly what I came to say
True. But LeBron didn't do himself any favors calling himself the King and confiscating that chalk toss. And #23 😂
Facts
@@michaeladams6847so what’s the problem if u call yourself a goat and think your the best at your field again that’s the problem with u people nowadays no confidence
@@michaeladams6847 lebron wouldn’t have the drive to compete at the nba level if he didn’t have that belief in himself. You have to think you’re the best at that level
LeBron has been scrutinized since he was 17 years old... Even to the point that he couldn't have even gone to play in college even if he wanted, because he accepted a throwback jersey. He has never given the media or his critics anything negative to talk about. He has been the consummate professional ever since he ended the league, which makes his critics, haters, and the media wolves ever more mad. Nobody's perfect in life, but he has damn sure been exemplary in his behavior on and off the court. Keep shining LBJ, as bright as you can...
They hate that brother more than racism.
powerful facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well said man..well said
I mean, yea. And especially when you're a player that CONTROLS the media and the news it decides to put out. Because your "exemplary" player you speak about definitely got his steroids/PEDs and infidelity stories wiped away from people's memories. Made sure that image is never tainted
Lebron is a steroid using narcissist who created super teams to win rings. Grow up Lebron lovers, your man's a clown.
He has more scrutiny... but also more love because of social media. Thats still no excuse for 4 rings in 20 years. Steph got the same in less time.
Facts
Lebron was way better than Curry in the finals he played against Curry. Stop it.
Took curry 6 tries to finally get a fmvp only took bron once
Steph was no even the best player in 3 of his 4 rings.
@@bottumthedreamer8735Neither was LeBron! 😂
If we’re being honest, Skip started all of this because nobody has criticized him like Skip has
Agree 💯
Skip does this for ratings he knows that LeBron is better he even admitted 3 years ago
@@ballhogeliteyea aite😭
Dude is Sports Media Darling and has been since he entered the league only thing he’s scrutinized for was when he took his talents to south beach.,.
@@Dipset415 Skip did admit it the video is on my page saying Lebron is better than jordan
Skip “ god disguised as Michael
Jordan “
Sherman “ and he sent God home “ 😂😂😂😂😂 genius
😂😂😂😂😂
With his finals losses yes
Even god couldn’t beat Celtics with those bums 🤷🏽♂️
@@Ninjersey1 his teammate averaged 21, what are you talking about?
@@Ninjersey1same can be said about those Miami Teams LBJ assembled
its funny that nobody mentions that lebron keeps getting to the finals early in his career when his path to the finals was so easy because the EAST was so bad that time while WEST was loaded.
When people say Jordan only started winning Pippen got to Chicago, they fail to include that Pippen average 10 & 13 points in his first two playoff appearances
also note Pippen was never the top scorer on the playoff run MJ always the top scorer, while in Mimi Bosh and Wade carried the team to win the championship!
You're making an assumption that they are referring to Pippen's offense. Pippen was an ELITE defender. Even better than MJ. However, the league was so invested in FORCING MJ to be considered the man... MJ won DPOY i think 3 times when he wasn't even the best defender his team lol
@@neillim3457Wade and Bosh didn't carry Lebron. That was just stupid.
@geraldchambers4304 you need to go and check the stats, laqueen had the worst games. Both Bosh and Wade carry the team while LaQueen didn't show up , numbers dint lie
@@neillim3457 Lebron won both fMVPs while in Miami.
Richard: “You scrutinize Lebron at practice some times”
😂😂
He had two mismatch shoes how can he be the goat 😅
Literally seen ppl criticize him for dancing in practice
Poor Skip. He ain’t gonna be able to slander LeBron with these guys 😂😂😂
Yeah the first 5 years shannon wouldnt fight back on Skips ridicous takes cause i guess he was scared to overstep in his opporunity then finally called him out on the bs the last few years
Just remember Stephen A and Skip actually have the same opinion on MJ
@@anhpham273380-90% of people agree with them about MJ they nearly do a yearly poll , Lebron is obviously just not better being considered by most as the 2nd best player is a huge compliment I don’t know how it’s a diss on lebron smh
I was thinking this too lol
@@neromusic138 it's the unlogicL and not reasonable arguments part of it when you can make a case for both sides but certain people like to act like it's just completely one-sided prime example the way skip worded his reasoning argument today
They could’ve easily brought up the countless articles and people like Kenny Smith saying Michael Jordan wouldn’t have survived today’s social media era. It’s bittersweet, subpar athletes today also get way more positive attention, acknowledgement, and platforms that role players in the past would’ve never got
Players would of gotten the positive attention. They just wouldn't have control of it. Bunch of players were shaped to be America's boy next door nonsense. That's the real difference now and in the past, is who's controlling the narrative on these players.
I'm loving this bunch! Great arguments all around!
Keyshawn really think social media was just as bad in the 90s as it is today. Dude is wild.
As if Michael Jordan would have been reading tweets about him 😂
@@newerest1if there is a guy, petty enough to read tweets written about him, it’s MJ. It doesn’t take anything away from him, but he would’ve been KD before KD.
@Coracora-he9pz Mike would be wearing shirts with tweets on them after winning a chip lmao
No one cares about the random reports that come from social media today. It has no weight.
@@Coracora-he9pznah…he wouldn’t be on burner accounts. He’d just take whatever they say and prove them wrong.
He’s got a point. Everyone is an expert nowadays 😂
This really hits The Playmaker hard because of his recent allegation, That man is innocent and ESPN should be ashamed of themselves for not having his back.
Even though I’m not a LeBron fan by any stretch of the imagination, I would agree with that. He played throughout the rise of social media. Played through persistent rumors about himself or teammates, threats, media narratives that are far beyond what they used to be, and I think that’s the main contributor. MJ played where ESPN and newspapers were the main contributors. Granted he probably faced tougher criticism and awful headlines about his father. But it also had a stopping point. LeBron narratives get stirred by mainstream outlets and social media accounts day and night.
MJ was also criticized by Media! Also Lebron has 150 Mil. Followers on Instagram. Most of them are fans! This can be an Egoboost for sure!
Richard Sherman's face at 6:10 geeked me out!! 😂 they all reacted because they know how true Michael Irvins comments were
Richard wen there first at 5:40 lol
6:07 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 how they quickly put the cam on Key
"Well then he sent God home" 😂💯
“My turn” hits a lot harder when it’s three other people talking
This the segment that made me realize that this show is really 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. I didn't think they could replace Uncle Shay but great decisions to pick these 3 up Skip. Congratulations
Skip used to call MJ a ball hog until he started winning. I'm from Chicago Skippy and you were right there doing it too.😂😂😂
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Exactly, they all did…
Cause he was and that was a weakness of his game until Phil Jackson got him to buy in to the triangle offense
He was a stat padder early in his career until Pipp came in and Phil Jackson applied the triangle offense to the team
@@AugrillsYet in 89 when he played PG position mans had like 11 triple doubles in a row and a averaged 32 8 and 8… How is that a ball hog.. Jordan was a ball hog in his first two years because he teammates was trash
Why? Because LeBron puts himself out there way more often than Michael Jordan ever did. Michael was very conscious of his image. He loves his privacy and guarded it zealously.
they always mention how many more games Bron has played but never mention he started at 18 vs Jordan at 21 Thats 3 seasons up already and Lebron turns 39 this year which is when Jordan Retired
Who won more in a shorter time
@@bigpoppa6658 Jordan never sniffed a winning season until he got Pipp bro was negative making it into the playoffs where was the weak east talk then🤷🏽♂️
@@bezc392 LeBron is the longevity goat which is not an insult. What else you want
@@bigpoppa6658 respect. if it was so easy everybody would play 20 years at that level. can’t hate if you pick Jordan but its more than longevity
Jordan literally melted down and walked away about TWO QUESTIONS about his gambling addiction in a post game press conference. Two questions…. That’s it….
Jordan still 6-0. Lebron is still 4-6. Jordan's better and that's all that matters.
@@GreenEnvy. By your logic Robert Horry is the goat 🤦🏽♂️
Michael Irvin was spittin straight FACTS this whole segment 🔥🔥🔥
Wat facts he acting like lebrons teammates were some bums they were not like Miami that was a stacked team with the cavs he had Kyrie and Kevin love as his wing men and a good bench now with the lakers he has AD and other good role players and every year he crying about not having enough help like come on man be forreal
Rewarding quitting. Rewarding stacking teams and not making your teammates better. He’s been to 10 Finals due to his teams going over the payroll
@DBZSTAY how do bums win 66 game's?
@@rahimi4762losing 6 time's
second place finishes don't count
keyshawn’s face as richard is describing what jus happened to michael irving this year 😭😭😭
Skip is right-the debate ISN'T close & even putting Lebron at # 2 is generous because there are a # of guys I have ahead of him
Jordan used that scrutiny to fuel his fire to make him greater. If Jordan was playing in this era of media he might have been better
Keyshawn: “Jordan first title was against the 90 yr old Lakers” 😂
Jordan won a chip with the oldest team to ever play in the Finals
Naw magic was 31 and jordan was 29 worthy Byron and Scottie was all around the same age😭💯you Lebron fan’s believe every lie the media tells y’all
The 98 Bulls are the oldest Championship team in NBA History. Reading is Fundamental
Jordan was 36...Rodman was 38...
@@Dipset415and I'm no Lebron fan...work on your reading comprehension
“LeBron took ppl off the street and won a championship”…. Wait… Wade, Bosh, Allen, Battier, Kyrie, Love, AD are people off the street now? Really?
So true. Lebron fans think this argument is the knock-out. Allen Iverson took Eric Snow Aaron McKey, Garry Lunch, Tyrone Hill and Mutombo to the finals and dropped 40 on Shaq and Kobe". That's harder than what lebron carried
Right like these dudes weren’t all great in their own right 😭big Z was an all star before lebron got to Cleveland 💯ricky Davis was averaging more than 20 a game before lebron. And Larry Hughes was averaging more than 20 a game before joining the cavs in 05-06 which is when the cavs first went to the playoffs
how many of those players made a finals appearance after bron left? clown a** take lmao
@@nmpiars8936so now that they didn’t win anything after lebron they were bums?
I loved how they painted that narrative. I stopped paying attention after that 🤣
lol. You know it's bad when his defenders bring up scrutiny as some sort of argument 😂
When Michael Jordan was around there was a palpable feeling of awe in the air of being in the presence of an extraordinary being. Psychologically he was above and beyond. None was better. None could approach that. That’s why Skip says Lebron is mortal in comparison.
This rosters great. I was on topic and the input was great from all three. Skip being the moderator with his experience is looking good. Also adding his two cents at the last is a pleasant surprise.
I agree with Skip more on this. From all old school NBA ones that watched NBA from the 70s and saw a lot. Of all NBA players it was something different about Michael that stood out. Michael was a one of a kind and refusing to lose and had to be great to do so. Kobe to me second. Those two had a different look in them than others.
This is going to be a great season of sports debates! Good team they set up here.
i love this format!
All facts he has and even jordan himself admitted it because he has said he don’t know if he could of played in this era with all this social media 💯
I don’t believe he would be able to. TMZ would probably catch Jordan packing leaving the bar and Jordan wold say something wild
Facts but skip never mentions that always try to flip what somebody else said
So these are more excuses for Lebron coming up short? Trying to figure out what this has to do with reality.
@@yourmotherstepson7974 well thats irrelvant bc you cant time travel and drop MJ into this era. if he was in this era he would be born and grown up in it.
@@aris_mendez You are deflecting, cuz wtf are you talking about.
“He sent god home!” Lmaooo
I’ll admit that was pretty funny lol
I done totally forgot about when sherm gave it to skip on espn all those years ago. Lol now here they are doing a show together that’s crazy
We gotta call this "Skip and The Skip Checkers" after this episode 🤣🤣🤣
Keyshawn is great at this. ESPN really didn't know what they had.
REAL GREAT! I CAN SEE IT JUST BEING HIM AND SKIP. I LIKE RICHARD TOO BUT IRVIN NEEDS TO JUST BE ON ON MONDAYS
Skip is 100% right about every point!
I’m still floored bruh this show and first take need to win together without caring how each are performing cause I love this new era of sports media!
I’m actually enjoying this new undisputed much more than I thought I would 😂
Been ta 10 Finals and still loss more than he won. You gotta win man!!
Context always matters though. Jordan went up against teams that his teams had an advantage over. The bulls were the best team in the league each year he won. 2007 cavaliers weren't the best team. 2014 miami heat weren't the best. 2015, 2017 and 2018 the same thing.
That would be like if I brought up MJ losing in the first round 3 times. The first thing you'd mention is that the teams he faced were much better. Why doesn't that apply to Lebron? Also isn't losing in the first round worse than the finals? If Lebron went 4-2 in the finals, would that be better? That means we are removing 4 playoff runs where he led his team to the last round. The logic on this argument doesn't make sense and ya'll try to boil it down to "he should have won" but never explain how his teams were supposed to do that.
@@cyberbron2077accolades matter and Lebron doesn’t have the chips or dpoty awards either..it’s really that simple…not to mention steals…and then there is the 6finals mvps..
@@jetblack4206The bill Russell is the goat with 11 rings. Robert Horry has more rings than Jordan since this is no longer a team sport. Smh
@@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071 if I wasn’t right you wouldn’t of felt the need to reply..
@@jetblack4206 Jordan is the G.O.A.T, but basing it mostly on rings is where you are wrong
Show getting better and better each episode
They always forget Kobe
Richard’s quick little “that’s the point” is killer!
He does face more scrutiny. Take away everything else and social media alone accounts for way more scrutiny.
Its a push because he gained more popularity because of social media. Its just as much of a benefit as it is a negative
But pointless scrutiny. He doesn’t see or even care.
@@j-slotsfromdabackblockstv8105 I see your point but I would argue it's the opposite. More popularity invites more scrutiny it doesn't negate it. Sure, there is a positive side to popularity but the sport is polarizing. LeBron gains more scrutiny with popularity.
Even if it was 50/50 it still wouldn't negate the large amount of scrutiny he receives. It makes sense to me but in the end it's just my opinion.
Cheers🍻
@@MrStylz1996 that argument is invalid because no player ever in sports history was ever as popular as Jordan its been 20 years since he played and we are still talking about him everyday and he still has the #1 selling shoe. your point only proves Jordan was more scrutinized
So now Kyrie Irving didn't play in 2016 finals? He had nothing? Tf is Sherm and Irvin talking about?
Im still dying at Skip never being mentioned in the Last Dance 🤣
Skip! You’re a damn genius - you did it again. Great show and even better than the competition
Genius or did he copy S.A.S. lol
Skip use to do this first before Stephen a joined him
@BizzyBlount08 there is no first take without skip
@@Derrickkingstonpe5878 first Take is Skip and Shannon... Most ppl didnt watch for Skip
@@rxtsec1 if your reffering to cold pizza that jawn was stale pizza
Michael: “You guys got to give Lebron credit”
Keyshawn: “Stop saying you guys”
😂😂😂😂
All athletes have 24/7 criticism is 2023. What does he expect?
MJ has withstood scrutiny since he entered the NBA.... he is still standing tall amongst everyone after retiring...
Irvin’s point about leadership in defense of LeBron was also a point against LeBron. 😂
Lebron can lead basically anyone. Mj could only lead certain people. That's not a knock on lebron. 🤦♂️😂
@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbYour words don't align with reality.
@@judon4908yes they do. Bron did it with multiple teams. MJ couldn’t win shut until Scottie came.
@@DisxreetBron was playing mid while Jordan was playing legendary teams, it's a difference
@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbhow come he couldn't lead Cleveland in 07 08 09 2010 they had Ben Wallace Mo Williams Illgaskus Antwan Jamison Larry Hughes Shaq all all stars and he had to start creating superteams
The Jordan vs. LeBron debate is certainly debatable, but HOW IN THE WORLD is THIS specific topic controversial???
I disagree. The debate between MJ and LBJ is debatable, but I definitely agree that it is controversial.
Right. How does this get 20 minutes?
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt
Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO
LeBron james has won 10 conference championships
Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James
In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I have added a Postscript
So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 mj didn’t shoot 28% from 3, google it bruh
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 6-0 in the finals, two 3 peats
"Scottie Pippen or Pippi Longstocking" is a rare bar from Skip.
I didn’t understand what Rich Paul was trying to say.
SKIP the only one who knows what’s up 💯
Skip already admitted lebron was the best overall basketball player in history 4 years ago.
@@WarAgeTVNo he didn’t. You mean all around not overall. That 2011 choke job makes that impossible to say and Skip knows that. Bron not even the best all around player ever either cus he could never shoot well and his FT shooting wasn’t great. He had weaknesses
Insane to say that as soon as Scottie arrived it was gravy. Dude averaged 7pts as a rookie. Their first championship he averaged 17pts. He was good. Jordan made him great. Jordan would’ve made someone else great if it wasn’t SP who was drafted. He wouldn’t have gone in search of great players to team up with elsewhere.
That's because the owner did it... Bron didn't have that luxury, so he had to do it himself what does it matter.
Pure speculation because Scottie had raw talent, a work ethic and dealt with Jordans bullying not a common combination.
That’s the lie they like to tell. Notice how they never bring up that MJ groomed Scottie to be an Allstar! Lebron running around forming Superteams. Now all of a sudden Kyrie and Love were nobodys! But Kerr and Paxton were world beaters or Allstars like Kyrie and Love were! 😂
@@laamkingent1excuses‼️
He didn't make anyone great before Scottie?? Also Jordan always had two of the top 3 players in the playoffs.
There was literally no social media back then
This went off topic real quick 😂😂😂😂
Skip kills these dudes in debates and it’s not even close smh
The forever debate.. 👑🐐
Stats: This show:135K views, First Take, 960K views. its over
They act like making it to 10 finals is easy. Think about how many players never make it
How about celebrating them both for their accomplishments.
I would like this instead of always pitting them against each other.
I love how they have the FOOTBALL 🏈 players doing their best to tell us how great Lebron is
Yes the professional athletes as opposed to the media head… ok
@@SirBackPackBasketball athletes the majority of the time will pick Jordan clearly no questions asked.. That was his point
@@MINK2393 thank you
So because they didn’t play in the nba they can’t have an opinion?
@@kmoney362
Oh they can have an opinion is just more credible in my OPINION when they are NBA players
"They sent God home." I love that reply to Skip, Richard Sherman!
God still has more championships than both.😂
Keyshawn looks good
Which player needed more allstars and Hall of Famers to win championships? The debate between these 2 players isn't even really close. Just imagine if defensive players couldn't hand check or hold MJ.
Why y’all keep talking about hall of famers and all stars, like those guys were even close to being in their prime.. Wade and Allen were the only ones to win before bron. The others haven’t won without him.
The real questions is how many hall of famers players did they play for those chips?
Also, playing against a zone is far more difficult than playing against handchecking.
Jordan got to play again illegal defense which, if it was still allowed in the 2000’s you woulda seen guys like Tmac, AI & Kobe all averaging over 35 ppg.
Just imagine if LeBron could hand check 🤔🤔🤔
@@clevelandoh3525he wouldn’t because he’s soft…remember when he couldn’t go in the finals because it was too hot in the AT&T center and they had to carry him off ???
@@TheReBrandShow🤡 mo Williams big z bosh wade kyri love AD westbrook were all in there prime it’s non debatable u mad cause we keep up with the Allstars and hofers lebum had and still failed 🤡😂😂😂😂
“He sent God home” 😂💀
MJ got swept twice back to back in the first round by Larry Bird and the Celtics, Lebron never had such a pathetic playoff run his entire career
Dude you embarrassing yourself. Dallas beat him in the finals. That was embarrassing 😂😂😂
@@greenbay3164 what's worse? lose in a final to game 6 or being swept in the first round by the same team twice back to back?
@@greenbay3164same dallas that swept kobe. 🤣🤣😊
Jordan was NEVER scrutinized as much Lebron
I love LeBron ❤️ I'm his fan forever ❤
Love the new team on undisputed and first take! Good balance
It's so wild how passionate some people can be over LeBron vs Jordan when they aren't old enough to remember Jordan.
The younger people are just defending lebron because they grew up watching him play so its extra personal for them.
A lot of people who passionately defend Jordan were in diapers when he was winning
Just cause you didn’t see him play doesn’t mean ppl don’t do there research about Jordan lol you constantly see his highlights everywhere you can go on CZcams and see his highlights. LeBron the greatest basketball player ever and Jordan is the greatest scorer simple
@@al3x_c234That’s not research. Research is watching the 1000 games he played.
@al3x_c234 We get it, you're a child.
At 14:10 Sherman started rethinking his decision on joining skip on his show😅
Way more!!!
A guy that tattooed chosen one on his back as if the NBA needed saving...
A guy that proclaimed himself the GOAT...
And y'all whining about facing more scrutiny? Especially with a 40% win percentage in the Finals?! 💀🤣🤣🤣
The media started this by comparing Lebron to Jordan, but Lebron didn’t stop it so he deserves some blame in this also
I mean one of them did get "Great One" tattooed on their body. This did not help the people who wanted to critique him against Jordan.
Between that and how he did the "Decision" which was a terrible PR stunt. Some of the criticism is warranted
Started when Lebrat declared himself King
@@roshawnjenkins6458it’s even worse that Great One. He got Chosen 1. Everything with LeBronze is completely contrived and specifically for media consumption.
@@cotati76you are clueless
@@TheJohnWick1 I stated nothing but facts. LeBronze tries so hard but he’ll never be the goat.
He also has way more power, influence, fans and support than MJ. Not everything is tougher, many things are way easier. In the end every player decides by himself how much he wants to be involved with the media and social media.
Lol 😂 not even close Jordan was loved so much they changed the rules for him
I havent seen anything like it!
We saw first hand on the last dance, the level of attention Jordan got.. the difference is, HE WAS WINNING. What was there to scrutinize!!?
It still feels different seeing skip debate with multiple former athletes at once, this show is super entertaining and skip is the 🐐
It’s better now
They said Michael had Scottie, LeBron had Wade, Bosh,Ray Allen, Mike Miller,Shane B. That’s just one of his super teams must I go on.
Undisputed better than first take. I like the energy here! Love to see things are rolling now! Keep it up!
Who else agree with Rich Paul??🤔🤔
Me
Me, Jordan and LeBron were both marketed to be the best, but LeBron faces more criticism. He speaks out on politics and people hate that. Jordan said “republicans buy sneakers too” and thats why they love him so much
Rich Paul, Chris Paul, Cliff Paul it don't matter LBJ daGoat
I mean I don’t know who would disagree😂
@@kingclutch1978lebron speaks of politics but has a 3rd grade education and has no grasp of ANY issue..
MJ was getting hated on for being a ball hog and announcers used to say the Bulls would never win with him scoring all the points. BUT social media definitely made it worse
Kyrie Irving played with Lebron against Warriors.
Lebron drag Miami to the finals ?
Lebron drag Cavs to the finals ?
Lebron drag Lakers to the finals ?
Its like you all saying these guys are bums
1. Kyrie
2. Love
3. Davis
4. Wade
5. Bosh
6. Ray Allen
They gutted every team he went to,trade half the roster for stars. Pretty sure the bulls never tried that hard.
The bulls didn’t have too, they had a great gm at the time. When lebron goes to a team he has to be everything
@@Nikeguy_ so lebum knows more than pat Riley 🤡 so pat riley didn’t put together a superteam around lebum 🤡 boy u queen James cheerleaders are pathetic
Loving sherman shutting skip up with his own logic. 😂
People either forgot,dont know, or dont care that M.J was being compared to Magic qnd Bird. Two men who literally saved the NBA. The media,owners,or fans thought that the NBA wouldn't/couldn't get more popular at that time. M.J did what Magic/Bird and then some. The NBA has still not been as popular as when M.J played.
"LeBron James has faced more scrutiny"... The entire media literally blamed Michael Jordan for his father's death spreading unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. It was disgusting.