be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Case Review - Awesome Performance... but Not Out of the Box!
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- In this video, I provide an in-depth review of the new Silent Base 802 from be quiet!, a successor and replacement for the 801 launched in 2018. It loads on a bunch of major upgrades, and comes in at a fair price given the premium features.
Want to buy one? Here are the links!
Silent Base 802 Glass Panel White (as tested): amzn.to/3eYhQlk
Silent Base 802 Glass Panel Black: click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
Silent Base 802 Steel Panel White: click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
Silent Base 802 Steel Panel Black: click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
Test Setup:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X - amzn.to/37hj7iM
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 - click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 CPU: amzn.to/3ngMA27
RAM: Patriot 2x8GB Viper RGB DDR4-3600 C17: click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
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Critical note on test setup: I used direct fan connections, as I could not get the built-in fan controller to interface with my motherboard for precise fan control. As it turns out, you don't just need to configure the controller, you also need to configure your motherboard, in order for the system to work. Here's what's required:
(1) The fan hub needs to connect to a PWM connector on the motherboard and be powered by SATA
(2) 3-pin fans need to be connected to the fan hub
(3) The slider at the front-IO needs to be set to "Auto“
(4) The motherboard fan control needs to be set to "PWM", not "Auto", as Auto detects these as DC, but the controller is actually converting PWM to DC to run the 3-pin fans.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:17 A Tour of the Case
03:36 Test Setup and Methodology
04:04 Sound samples at max RPM
04:30 Idle benchmarks
05:19 Cinebench R20 benchmarks
06:46 3DMark Gaming benchmarks
08:09 Conclusions - Věda a technologie
Information dense and thorough as I have come to expect with your reviews. You are seriously a gem among smaller PC tech reviewers and I appreciate your videos.
You made my day, thanks for posting this!
Has BeQuiet announced when the front panel 801->802 conversion kits release? Apparently you'll need to replace the entire front panel to get the mesh front.
I didn't know they were doing a conversion kit. I will ask about that and try to get an answer back to you.
Turns out this is not currently happening. Quote from be quiet!:
"Conversion kits to mount the 802 front mesh panel on the 801 have been discussed, but for now we do not have such conversion kits available."
This was just what I was looking for. 802 vs 500dx. You're the real MVP!
Wow, it does seem like I had a few good videos for you!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Indeed. Been in the game for quite a while but still learned something along the way.
Thank you for all your hard work Mr. Ari, I love watching your channel grow and it's easy to see why. Your hard work is much appreciated and is clearly reflected in your videos. With that being said, I'm definitely looking forward to more case reviews, fan orientations, and other various build guides. I recently bought the Purebase 500DX based on your reviews and can't wait to build in it once things are in stock, which might be a while unfortunately haha. I have a feeling some manufacturers like EVGA will send you some GPUS to review very soon so you don't have to go out and buy them yourself :) Thank you and happy new years!
Thank you for taking the time to share this comment, it means a lot to me!
Great review Ari 🥰🥳👍. I like this revision of the 801 being the new 802. I know “be quiet” is known for its high quality quiet cases, but I prefer the high air flow model and is my personal preference with my builds.
I'm trying to convince be quiet! to stop being so quiet! I know they can do great airflow cases (like the 500DX), and they should do more of them to get more market share.
The slideout tray at the top is a must to all the other cases.
I totally agree with Douglas Mannor. Arie is always truthful on his review. Another excellent review.
your changing fan configurations coming in clutch
Yup, just a little something I wanted to add to make this review unique.
Always like your Video's Arie 👍
You and techtesters are THE 2 BEST OF THE BEST PC TECH REVIEWERS ON THE PLANET.
Much detailed, through and meaningful testing that far surpasses what people like LTT does and to be fair hardwarecanucks does do detailed tests like you but you do more..
subscribed cheers keep up the great work ❤️
🛑Things you can improve: It would be excellent if you can measure REAL clearances like the space for max fans+rad in front till that shroud and top radiator ram clearance things like that would be aprreciated for us liquid cooling junkies..
Thanks, very nice to be put in that league!
I am so glad I stumbled upon your channel. Excellent review(s). Short but very informative.
AS for this review, it just confirmed to me that 500DX is an awesome case for the money. 802 is awesome too, but I dont need that kind of space, 500DX will do the job just fine.
Thanks for dropping by, definitely sub if you haven't yet! As for the 500DX, yes, it's just about perfect for an air-cooled system. I've currently switched over to the 802 due to its much better compatibility with 280mm and 360mm rads, but if I were doing air cooling tests, I'd switch back to the 500DX. Both are also of very high quality and feel much more premium than other cases that cost the same.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Already subbed. Planing on getting the 500DX for my next build and going full air-cooling with Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15S Chromax. Just waiting for market for CPUs and GPUs to "normalize" a bit (in my country 5600X is 450-500 euros and RTX 3070 is well over 800 euros). Thanks again for informative reviews and helping me choose my next case.
Thanks for the sub! It sounds like you will have a great setup. I'd personally go for the D15S Chromax, it's the same price, and will perform better. In my testing, it's on par with a Scythe Fuma 2, and both are better than the DRP4. I'd only get the DRP4 if all you care about is looks. It's a work of art, as are all things that come from be quiet!, but it's not a great cooler for the price. My favorite air cooler is the Fuma 2, but it's hard to find in stock, and some people don't like its color scheme.
By the way, in a few weeks, I'll be posting my high-end CPU cooler review, which will include the Fuma 2, the dual-fan D15 Chromax, and four 360mm AIOs, so you may want to check that out even if neither of the coolers you are considering is on the list!
Really interesting with the front to top fan swap - hadn't expected that. I guess adding another front fan would just be extra good. Would be cool to see if that bottom fan makes a difference - I think I remember seeing in a review of the Lancool Mesh II that that PSU shroud fan greatly reduced GPU temps.
I just bought this case and it's a real beauty. With the mesh panels this thing has great air flow. I put 3x Noctua Chromax 140mm fans in the front intake and moved the included Be quiet 140mm fans to the top exhaust. For the rear exhaust fan spot I used a 120mm Noctua Chromax fan that I had not being used. The CPU cooler is a Noctua U9S with two fans.
The 3x Noctua 140mm front fans push more air than the exhausts. The included Be Quiet fans are quiet, but don't push nearly as much air as the Noctua.
Glad you like the case! Yeah, the Noctua fans are stronger than the bequiet ones.
Great review. Looks awesome. I love the look and the space. BUT, for my setup, this case is too tall to fit into my desk enclosure and still be able to access the I/O panel. I guess 500dx is the perfect size for my setup.
Fair enough! Yes, it is very large, and the height is partly to allow big radiators on top. The 500DX is just right for most people. It's been sold out at Amazon for a while, but it's in stock at Newegg: click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Farctic-white-be-quiet-pure-base-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2F2AM-0037-00072%3FDescription%3D500dx%26cm_re%3D500dx-_-9SIA68VB0W1760-_-Product
Case vendors should just make fans an option. We all know what fans we want to use. Saves everyone money.
I hear what you're saying, but I don't agree, because reviewers won't be able to easily test them.
Most of computer owners are not interested in hardware, so they don't know the worth buying fans or don't even want to know such things. Some of them buy premium cases instead of cheap, only because they hope they pay for everything being decent. Cars could be also sold without engine, tires or any element, which knowlegable person would change to exactly one, which would meet best individual expectations. I'm completely not interested in tires or engines and don't want to be, becasue it seems to me not intresting ;)
Hello there, do you have some temperatures for an inverted Build? I am wondering of These would be higher compared to the normal build.
@The Tech Buyers Guru Thanks for reaching out to BeQuiet.
If I want to render I take the solid panel off of the 801 and put back on when gaming. I deshrouded an RX590 and it never reaches 70 Celsius. My 3900X does reach 74 Celsius with an Noctua D15 when the solid panel is on however.
I found your video about optimizing Arctic case fan positions very helpful.
Happy to help!
I'm very close to buying this case after watching and reading a ton of reviews. Yours was the first where a top exhaust was exclusively tested, so thanks for that! Apparently the default bottom intake position does not make much of a difference for the GPU thermals. But with some trickery you can have a bottom fan right under the GPU. My only concern with this case would be the GPU temperature, especially long-term thermal strain, but it's still more appealing than Fractal's Meshify 2 or Define 7. It also seems to do the silent/airflow switching thing better than Phanteks P600S. I use my PC for music production in addition to gaming. Running a DAW is mostly CPU-intensive work, so during that there's no need to worry about the GPU, and my plan is to keep both front panels at hand all the time and then use the dampened one whenever I truly need my system to, well, be quiet.
I think you'll find this case to be perfect for your needs. Dual front 140mm fans may actually be better for CPU-intensive work with no GPU load. Amazon is out of stock on these (at least shipped from Amazon), but Newegg has 3 of 4 models in stock, and if you care about noise, the solid side panel version is what you want:
(1) Black solid panels: click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Fblack-be-quiet-silent-base-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2F2AM-0037-00073%3FDescription%3Dsilent%2520base%2520802%26cm_re%3Dsilent_base%2520802-_-9SIA68VCKF8599-_-Product%26quicklink%3Dtrue
(2) White solid panels: click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Fwhite-be-quiet-silent-base-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2F2AM-0037-00074%3FDescription%3Dsilent%2520base%2520802%26cm_re%3Dsilent_base%2520802-_-9SIA68VCKG0365-_-Product%26quicklink%3Dtrue
If you want the glass, the only version Newegg has is the white I tested:
click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Fwhite-be-quiet-silent-base-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2F2AM-0037-00076%3FDescription%3Dsilent%2520base%2520802%26cm_re%3Dsilent_base%2520802-_-9SIA68VCKG8871-_-Product%26quicklink%3Dtrue
@@TheTechBuyersGuru I still do gaming too, though. My current case has a very restrictive front with just one intake, but I have added a side fan to blow fresh air straight into the GPU, so I need to rethink it all if switching cases. Would you recommend keeping the two front fans but still adding a top exhaust? My goal is to keep the GPU as cool as possible under load. With this case, it probably means maximizing the flow of intake air from the front to the GPU cooler, and adding an exhaust to avoid thermal buildup. My CPU runs relatively cool so on that side of things any thermal increase from using the solid panels will probably be within acceptable limits as long as there's at least one intake fan positioned to match the cooler's height.
You should probably see this primer on fan placement: czcams.com/video/iCn-XL-HyXg/video.html
The 802 will work great if you set it up based on the findings in that video.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks! I'll go check it out. Ordered the case yesterday. :)
I don't think you will have a problem with CPU or GPU temps at all with this case doing what you want to do especially if you choose to fill all the fan positions. I was thinking about your question on fan position under the GPU and I took a look in my 802 case and you can take off the plastic covers and mount fans down there and I do believe you would see some difference, but I don't see it as anywhere near necessary as you can have three 140mm intake fans already that can pump a lot of fresh air to the GPU and CPU. I put three Noctua Chromax fans up front and they pump more air than I need to both the GPU and CPU. I wouldn't mount bottom intake fans myself as I think it would ruin the clean look of the bottom shroud area and in my case with an i7 and a RTX 3060 it would be totally unnecessary.
Honestly even with the mesh panels, this case doesn't need to be loud to keep itself cool because of the amount of fans that you can fit in it, you can run them all at lower speeds and still get great airflow.
May I ask, how is it optimal to position the last front fan (probably near the bottom? Or in the middle?) if I am going to have two exhaust fans at the rear and at the top?
I'm curious about the option to invert the motherboard tray in this case. I understand that it can be a lot of work to test a bunch of different configurations (so it may not be possible), but it would be so interesting and informative to see the effects of different layouts.
How much are GPU thermals improved with a top intake and an inverted motherboard? What about doing that and then also changing CPU airflow to back to front? How does an inverted mobo GPU intake compare to a traditional orientation with fans in the PSU shroud?
Thinking about all of these atypical setups could give a lot of insight into case design and the cooling of PC components.
Whether or not you are able to find time to try things like that, I appreciate your videos and reviews. They are well-made, well-researched, and provide sensible advice for PC enthusiasts. I'm excited to watch the channel grow.
I considered talking about the inverting option, but I believe it's something it's artifact of this being based on the older 801, rather than something be quiet! is excited about promoting at this point. My hunch is that the GPU temps would be quite a bit worse, based on other testing I've done recently on the channel (it would force the GPU fans to fight the overall airflow scheme).
Fantastic Review! Do you think the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360/420 can be mounted here on the front with the tubes down?
360 yes, 420 almost certainly no, as there isn't enough clearance to get the tubes out from the bottom, especially with the very stiff tubing that Arctic uses. Arctic actually wanted me to review the LFII 420, but I turned it down because I didn't have a suitable test case. I'm not going to bother with front-mounting AIOs with tubes up - any video posted with that setup would get flamed to no end. So, in short, no it won't fit, and no, I'm not going to try it!
I was hoping you will do this case.
Great review thx!
Just 1 question please:
How could the 3080 be at 82 degres (at best in your test) and the whole system only making 36dba of noise?? That is impossible unless you manualy set the gpu fans to 36 dba.
At these temp, the gpu fans should be jet engines... Did you leave then on auto or just set them to a fix rpm to lower noise level?
Thx in advance
If I left then on auto, I wouldn't be testing case fan performance. I did mention early on in the video that CPU and GPU fans are always locked for testing.
Was just curious, as I ended up ordering this case. Where on the motherboard did you plug in the 4-pin connector that runs to the case fan controller?
It can go to any 4-pin fan header on the motherboard, but you must set the header to PWM, not automatic, or you won't be able to control it via software.
I think your find the Be Quiet 801 was a replacement for their first case the 800, which I have and is still quiet!!
Great review.
I am looking at buying this case and reviews such as yours just confirms how good this case is.
One thing I have not yet seen anyone test is seeing if 2 x 120 fans (not sure if 140 will fit as the external fan frame might interfere with the MB cabling connection at the bottom) can be places on the rear perforated area on top of the PSU shroud. The dedicated fan placement on the PSU shroud seems too far forward to directly impact the GPU temp.
This would blow cool air, drawn from under the filtered base and low portion of the front cover straight onto the GPU, which should reduce the GPU temps in your test configurations.
The PSU has it's own air circuit so any warm air added into to PSU shroud should be minimal.
What do you think?
I would not be concerned with how far forward that shroud fan mount is. It is still going to get air moving towards the GPU. Placing it on top of the PSU is something you could do with many cases (including the much cheaper be quiet! 500DX, but then you are pulling air against a solid surface (the PSU chassis), and severely limiting the usefulness of having that fan there. Just because it's doing less doesn't make it any quieter, which is why the dedicated mount makes so much sense - it is above an open area of the case and able to pull air through.
This is a great video but I still got some questions and I hope you can help me with these questions.
1. Can I use 120mm fans in this case? If yes, how do 6 120mm fans perform with the 802?
2. So would it be correct that 4x140mm fans (2 front, 1 back, 1 top) will perform really good with this case?
I really aprpreciate your videos! Thank you!
Well I can assure you that either 6x 120mm fans or 4x 140mm fans will perform excellent with this case as long as you are using the mesh panels. I actually went with 6x 140mm including front and top and then 1x 120mm for the rear. It really is complete overkill, but it does allow me to always run the fans on the lowest setting and thus keeps noise levels down. I wouldn't hesitate to run 4x 140mm fans or even 120mm fans with this case and it would do well. As shown in this video even a 3x 140mm fan setup does a good job at keeping temps in check. Maybe consider doing a 5x140mm setup with 3 in front and 2 in rear to create a positive airflow setup so that dust is filtered through the front filter.
I am trying to find the best case that allows you to have all 140mm fans and I think this might be it. I'm in no rush to upgrade though because I currently have a Corsair 5000D with all T30 fans.
Very nice case. I actually just move my tu150 build into an o11 mini and I do appreciate the shorter case. Do you think this 802 is better airflow than than the o11 mini setup as an air cooled system?
Pretty different class of cases. The 802 is about twice as large as the 011 Mini. I'm quite sure that the airflow is better in the 802, but the 011 Mini is certainly interesting.
Q: Did you mount the top fan as exhaust, or intake. Assuming as intake, but just making sure, as I am waiting for this case to be delivered and would like to emulate.
Top fan must be exhaust. Here's why: czcams.com/video/iCn-XL-HyXg/video.html
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for the reply, and additional info. Subbed.
Hello! Great videos as always, big tech channels should learn from you! I am faced with a difficult choice, I make a pc processor will be i9 10850k or ryzen 5800x, which case should I choose corsair 4000d, be quiet 500dx or silient base 802? For airflow in the case, aio or air cooling will be better? I generally prefer an air cooler but I am worried that these processors will get too hot. Sorry for my English, I'm still learning.
Thanks for the positive feedback. One thing that big tech channels do better is make money, and that, like it or not, is actually the most important part of running a CZcams channel....
Now, as for your decision, all of those are great cases. You need to decide what your budget is. If you have $150 to spend on a case and cooler, then you should get the 500DX and a Scythe Fuma 2 cooler. If you have $300 to spend, you should get the 802 and a 360mm AIO. And by the way, those two processors you mention use very different amounts of power. If you get the 10850K, which is cheaper, you need to spend more on cooling. I'd definitely get the 802/360mm for that processor.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thank you for this information. So a good air cooler and case with good airflow is enough for 5800x? Such a set would be a bit cheaper than the i9 + good aio, I live in the EU.
Yes, the 5800X is absolutely fine with air cooling. You will save money going with it over the 10850K and a larger case with an AIO, that is it's main advantage. In terms of computing power, it's a toss up between the 5800X and 10850K. In terms of availability, that's a different story. The 5800X is pretty hard to find in stock in the US. I don't know about the EU.
It’s definitely not a looker, but thermals weren’t bad with mesh front. Nice to see you were able to purchase a 3080. I’m so jealous:)
I actually like the looks, but it would probably be even better if it were designed from scratch with a mesh panel, rather than having one retrofitted to the chassis. And yes, I have a 3080 (two, in fact), but no Zen 3 CPUs, sadly.
Anyone know if that high airflow mesh front panel is usable on the 601 case as well? I know the side panels are as I had to replace one? I would like to add more airflow to my already very quiet all Be Quiet build.
I don't think that would work. You might ask be quiet about it, but I know they haven't even offered an upgrade kit for the 800 to 801 panel.
Any chance you’ll be reviewing the 3080? There’s a lack of review content out there for that EVGA model. Would be super helpful to see!
Good question! It's not reviewed because EVGA only samples the good stuff to big-name reviewers, and I am not one of those, so I bought it. I also bought the FTW3 model that *was* sampled to many reviewers, so I could actually do a comparison of the two. I have enough products that are sampled to me that I don't want to spend a lot of time reviewing products that I put out my own money to buy. I'd rather promote brands that will actually work with me. But I have the cards, and as you said this model hasn't been covered, so there might be a big audience for the review....
I'll think about it!
Is the top panel mesh or are you using the other kind of panel? I have a silent base 601 and I'm wondering if your modifications would fit my case. I have removed the front panel leaving the dust filter. But at the top I don't have a mesh panel, I have the closed one with some holes...
The 802 includes a mesh filter for the top panel, which fits on the punched out metal mesh.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru So you were using the mech panel on the top. there is a dust filter on the top too? If not, the PC will be full of dust.
The 802 comes with a dust filter on top, and I used it.
Hey, great video as always. I appreciate your great work, keep it up. I know this will be a little bit off the topic, but I was gonna ask you about The Fuma 2 and it's fans. I saw your review but I am interested about the motor of the Kaze Flex itself. Have you noticed any motor noise - whine, clicking or anything disturbing like that ? I haven't heard anything in your sound tests, but let me know please. Thanks :)
No, the motors in the Scythe Kaze Flex fans are very consistent, no unusual noises. They do tend to run a bit louder than other brands, which you can hear in my sound samples in other videos, so they have a larger impact on the overall sound profile than airflow. In other words, at the same dB level, you'll hear the motor more and the blades less on Scythe fans.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Do you think it is worh upgrading to Fuma 2 from Hyper 212 evo heatsink with noctua nf a12x25 fan? I like the acoustics, but I think the temps of my R7 3700x are a little higher than I would like them to be. The case is pure base 500dx if it matters. Thx for your feedback :)
Fuma 2 is infinitely better than the Hyper 212 Evo. You don't need the NF-A12x25, but if you already have one, go ahead and use it.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for everything, definitely getting the fuma 2 for my ryzen 7 ! :) By the way do you have any thoughts on Mugen 5 rev. b ? Are you going to make a review ?
I reviewed the Rev. B many years ago. It is not close to the Fuma 2, it was beaten badly by the original Fuma when I tested it in 2017: techbuyersguru.com/ryzen-120mm-cpu-cooler-shootout-power-people
Hi! Bottom legs, are Included? or you must buy It separately? thanks
They are included in the box, you can attach them or leave them off.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru thanks
Awesome video! I have the same case with fuma 2 cooler, cooler is connected to my MB do I connect it to the fan hub? Also I would like to add one fan on top and keep the two front fans, how do I control fans speed?
Don't connect cooler to the hub, leave it connected directly to the motherboard. Adding an additional fan is easy, you can hook it up to the hub or to the motherboard, but if you want to control it via the switch on the front, you have to use the hub. The hub has six connections for fans.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru thank you I will add it to the hub how do I control it?
Is the top fan pulling air into the case or blowing it out of the case?
Blowing out.
which one do you think is better meshify 2 or this? for having best of both world? better air flow n not that loud? im having hard time deciding.. i dont like phanteks p500a due to those cover can cut cable..and at max fan speed reallly loud.. and i like white color
I haven't tested the Meshify 2, but a lot of people like it. My personal opinion is that it has an older layout, very deep, not that tall, making it great for tons of hard drives, not so great for liquid coolers, and potentially problematic for cooling (fans very far from components). Also the style doesn't really impress me, whereas the 802 is quite attractive. Everyone will have their own opinion on that though. Overall both are good cases, so pick whichever you like more. The Meshify 2 is a bit cheaper. Here it is for $140 plus shipping at Newegg: click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Fwhite-fractal-design-meshify-2-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2FN82E16811352135%3FDescription%3Dmeshify%25202%26cm_re%3Dmeshify_2-_-11-352-135-_-Product%26quicklink%3Dtrue
The Silent Base 802 White is sold out, but usually $170 shipped: click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=WAzU8cLhuCU&mid=44583&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2Fwhite-be-quiet-silent-base-atx-mid-tower%2Fp%2F2AM-0037-00076%3FDescription%3Dsilent%2520base%2520802%26cm_re%3Dsilent_base%2520802-_-9SIA68VCKG8871-_-Product%26quicklink%3Dtrue
At Amazon it's backordered a month: amzn.to/38uUYWr
@@TheTechBuyersGuru those protuding rail bar can knock my feet when im not carefull hhehe ( i place my case on the floor in bed room)
.the wide stand design is keeping from buying this.im having doubt also bcauset of the low rpm of the fans.. also the fan has really low rpm.. im worry it may not perform well in cooling when in gaming.. that s why im looking at mestify 2 too. thanks so much for the reply..
and yes i agree this has more features.. such as fan controller on panel can be set to auto also.. others cases like panteks p500a and other air flow case dont have that. and sliding case for radiator top mount is really good
also i wonder if place 140mm on top of psu shroud to increase air intake while still use double hhd cage is doable? ( i use at least 3 hdd drive)
To use hard drives and the lower GPU fan, you need to mount the hard drives in the slots in the main compartment. The trays are not included (one is, I believe, but you have to buy the others). The fan requires removal of the hard drive cage below.
The feet are technically not necessary if you mount your PSU with the fan up and pull air from the inside of the chassis.
I wouldn't worry about the 900RPM fans. They are fast enough. The fans in the Meshify 2 are rated at 1000RPM, so they are practically the same, and RPM isn't a good way to compare fans anyway!
im guessing this would be a good case to fit the noctua NH-D15? thanks :-)
Yes, absolutely, and you'll be seeing that exact combo on the channel very, very soon!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru awesome, thanks!!
Does anyone know if you can top mount the arctic freezer ii 280?
It will work. Check out this video to see the LFII 360 mounted in the SB 802: czcams.com/video/VHw4_jiJQO8/video.html
Just picked it up last month and I’m going to install my 3090 hybrid Kingpin on this with inverted motherboard so the GPU radiator blows out the top just above the GPU
Very interesting application for the inverted setup, but given that it's liquid anyway, it's not to hard to move heat around the chassis. In other words, you could do the same thing with a standard configuration. Inverting it will also mean the rad fans are fighting the blower fan.
How do you get the cover off? I've just bought on and I can't for the life of me get into the damn thing!
You mean the side panels? You simply push the round button on the back, and pull the panel sideways from the top. It's totally different from any other case, but it's also better!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru thanks, saw it on another review video
Can you please get your hands on lancool 2 mesh and compare this with that one?? as i was almost going to buy lancool 2 mesh but size isn’t a concern for me and alot of features are optional on lancool 2 mesh even type c so by the time you add all those extras its price will be comparable to this.
I've been trying to "make friends" with Lian Li for a while, but they keep ignoring my requests for product samples. I might try again soon, but honestly, they sell far more than they can manufacture, so I don't think they're looking for more reviews.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru true said.. Don't worry you'll get there.
With the solid front panel, would static pressure fans perform better?
Static pressure fans are really designed for pushing through restrictive coolers, rather than pulling through solid panels. There's a big difference between not just pulling and pushing, but also between a perforated area (like a heatsink or vent) and an area that simply has no airflow, forcing air to come in through the sides and bottom. Static pressure fans can't do much about that issue.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru appreciate the response and the content! Was thinking it may help the foam panel temps but it seems it wouldn’t. Love the design and engineering of this case but I think I’m probably going to go with the meshify 2
Why are you leaning towards the Meshify 2? It's very popular, but I honestly think the Silent Base 802 is far more innovative and attractive.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru I do like the look/mechanics more with the 802, but the size, weight, price, and comparable thermals have me leaning to the meshify. It’s a beauty though, for sure.
Just one important fact you should keep in mind: the SB802's feet add 36mm to the total width and 46mm to the height, but nothing to the actual volume of the main box, which is where the visual impact comes from. They add a designer touch and additional stability, but on a spec sheet, make the volume seem much bigger than it is, unfortunately for be quiet!. So look at these specs and see if they are really that much worse than the Meshify:
Case size excl. stands (L x W x H), (mm) 539 x 245 x 507
Case size incl. stands (L x W x H), (mm) 539 x 281 x 553
And subjectively, I feel the case is actually quite light for its size, in part because it's not as big as the full height and width would suggest.
80L, that thing is massive...
Absolutely. It's a full-tower case, and these are becoming a bit less popular lately. But it will fit a 360mm rad on top or a 420mm rad in front. A case can't offer that compatibility without being large!
Maybe we should clarify that all that temps are tested with high-end processeurs at stress conditions. My 3500X is at around 40ºC at normal use, and at around 55ºC at gaming use. A few degrees less would not change anything.
My main take away here:
Negative pressure with top/rear exhaust is superior. Which bq! should already know, considering they made the 500DX. Weird.
Negative pressure is also more dusty. Case needs to fill itself with lacking air and it enters thru all of the holes - also the unfiltered ones like the back of the case. I suspect 802 being destined more silence focused case with just additional mesh panels, which'll sell the case to wider group of customers. So I suspect they sacrificed a little airflow for lower maintenance. Silence focused cases seem to be more premium experience oriented like well built and comfortably designed, with efficient (it comes with restrictive) filters and slower (less efficient) fans.
"Admire it, and throw it in the trash" lol
Thought I'd lighten it up a bit!
It is nice to look at though. I think I might try to modify it into a dinner tray or something useful lol.
So be quiet, the company that prides itself on making some of the most quiet and high quality fans on the market, includes a built in fan controller, with no PWM. So fan curves aren’t an option to the end user. Make it make sense.
The controller has forth step (Auto Mode) which is PWM control. PCB has two cables - SATA connected to PSU for three steps of fan controller button (5;7;12V) and PWM for people wanting to create their own curve. They did the best, it's possible ;) bq! is also one of the few brands, which still provides manual fan controllers in most of their cases. Fan controllers are great for noobs, but also imo should be a standard in any case, which aims being premium. And you can always connect fans directly to the motherboard - most of them allow to voltage control the speed of 3-pin fans.
The problem is that this feature DID NOT work in my testing. I did connect the fan controller via PWM and SATA, and my motherboard could do nothing but report the fan speed, it could not control it. I didn't want to waste time in my review talking about this issue, as I always use individual headers to control and monitor fans, but it's definitely not ideal.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru I suspect the reason. In bios control mode of connector you connected the hub to was Auto or DC. Were they running full speed when you set manual switch on Auto? If so, it's needed to change the type of control to PWM and that should solve the problem.
Ah, could be. They were running full speed. My BIOS was set to Auto most likely, I didn't check it. Unfortunately be quiet! says nothing about this in the manual, and due to time constraints, I simply had to move on when I found it didn't work right away.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru To me you are fully absolved ;) I looked at available online 802's manual (it's maybe the same) and have to admit - it sucks. They don't even show, how to plug that damn controller... Now look, how Fractal does manuals - you will even see fan's or hub's electric specification. bq! has to work on that, because they are just lazy. And fan controllers generally are great, but can be a little tricky. I had experience with one (only SATA connected), which didn't want to change speeds other than default fans. The only way to resolve it was plugging also just one default fan and it allowed to control also the one added. So as we experienced, controllers can be a pain, but I still think they are overally awsome and should be a standard :]
I'm shocked because everybody recommend two fans at the front and one at the back. I suppose you are recommending to move one fan from the front to the top.
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