“Pricing starts at $1699 which is pretty insane considering all the premium features this thing packs”. Except the base model has zero premium features aside from fast ram. So yeah… basic ips monitor, i5, integrated graphics, 16gb ram, 512gb storage for $1699 is pretty insane. Also sad.
@@blondegirl7240 Right? I get that it’s not a gaming laptop but a professional laptop that can game but the base model can’t even do that so you’re paying only for looks. But then why not get a vivobook? Might not quite have the Apple snob appeal but it still looks good and entirely appropriate for professional work. Also $1699 but for this model… Intel Core i9 13th Gen 13900H 1.9GHz Processor NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6 32GB DDR4 RAM 1TB Solid State Drive Microsoft Windows 11 Home SD 4.0 Card Reader 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E+Bluetooth 5.0 16" 3.2K OLED 120Hz Display Slower ram but twice as much. Twice the storage. The faster uhs-II card reader and drastically better specs and screen. Also the 99wh battery. Same price as the Lenovo base model that has basically zero of the features mentioned in this “overview”.
I think since they have chapters, the people that skip to what they want it is not obvious to them. Think if they had a watermark that it's sponsored by whomever the whole video would be better. Not just HW but every sponsored video. @christhe812
@@SirCaco 😆 my bad, you're right LoooL my brain couldn't imagine buying this with no dGPU. Honestly I just find it funny but I guess someone out there wouldn't mind
the one with a rtx 4070 and 64gb ram and 2gb ssd costs 2400 francs in Switzerland. Frankly, it's not expensive at all the asus g14 with 16gb and rtx 4070 costs the same, and the lenovo has a 120hz miniled screen.
Battery life upgrade is big W. Hopefully* you can charge via Type C like the Legion laptops at 140W. Yes you can charge via USB C through the Thunderbolt 4 port on the left side which can also be used as DisplayPort 1.4
Great video, thanks. Following your link, it seems Lenovo is still offering both the Yoga and Slim, contrary to your comment they are dropping Slim. Lenovo: You have too many models and variations; give people a break by simplifying the product line, and make more money by not offering so many options >>> Paradox of Choice freezes buyers in their tracks.
No Windows Hello or Fingerprint reader in,.....2024? Why do these manufacturer *UTTERLY FAILS* to include such an important hardware feature? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I'm hoping there was a bit of a mistake with the pricing slide, because $1699 for Arc grapics and 16gb ram with a normal IPS display is really expensive. Even if you mean CAD, that's not a great price.
For the same price you can get a last year Legion Slim 5 with 4050 and Ryzen 7840HS. Who cares about external look when you can get a better performance with the same price
youtubers have become so disconnected, stop selling out dude, the only thing insane about this is how high the price is, not to mention its without VAT. Its gonna be like 2K+ euros in western EU for example
same. I bought last years version but It had a screen issue and I had to give it back. The only issues with it was that screen issue (obviously), and the battery life kinda sucked. Kind of disappointed I was really crossing my fingers for this one
@@sampadkar19 Yea, But Pro 7i is limited to like 16 or 32GB RAM. Why can't we have 64GB RAM on a 14" and an RTX 4070 or 4080? Without OLED and burn-ins?
The 14" Gen 8 version. It wasn't an oled screen it was the miniLED. In 120hz mode the screen would flicker (when using the intel processor), but connected to a monitor there would be no issues - leading me to believe it was more than a drivers issue. I did a lot of digging and noticed it was quite a common problem and saw that other people had refunded theirs, so I did so too.@@eladbari
OK, so I'm gonna be honest here. I love Hardware Canucks, been a follower for a long time. However, when watching this video, something clicked. Notice how he continuously praises the PC, from it's slick design to its great cooling and great camera and speakers and so on. What I consider to be a red flag, is not mentioning its problems. OK, I get it, the video is sponsored by Lenovo, but that shouldn't affect the review. Go watch Just Josh videos and notice how the PC that, in your mind, is perfect, turns out to be full of problems and flaws. It's because he really tests them, as a real user, while being neutral. I'm not commenting because I want you to watch Just Josh video, but to point the problem I'm seeing. I'm really disappointed by this video and I hope this would change in the future.
Clearly this is a good laptop for developers. So it is interesting to comment on the eye-strain with this 165Hz mini-LED display. Also comment on the CPU temperature and fan noise db, when a) coding (what is battery life then?) b) compiling using Visual Studio (battery life) c) running some numerically intensive code such as Geekbench 6 or Cinebench (battery life) How its battery life compares with HP Spectre x360 14 inch 2024 (sound and cpu temperature) How does it compare with ASUS Zenbook 14 2024 155H? How does it compare with similar laptops using AMD Ryzen 7840U in terms of battery life, CPU temps and fan noise.
In the US (at the moment at least) you can't get one with the 4070. Best Buy will be selling them, but be sure to read the specs closely, because they often sell models that are slightly different than what's available straight from the manufacturer. Also, Costco sells this, but they're actually selling the 2023 model.
Have 2023 model. Bottom made of plactics and always has extra noise when touch the body. Also the sounds craks every time on low volume. Seems because of the plastic bottom. Also had a problem with low perfomance (improved by stopping Nvidei Container service). Screen is so glossy, can't see when sunlight. And the light from the keyboard always reflects on the screen.
why are they slowly killing 14" gaming, powerful laptops 😭? i hope there'll still be some good models left few years down the line , when i decide to upgrade .
@@crestofhonor2349 I was mainly refering to Lenovo replacing many of their 14" with 16" both in legion and yoga lineup. That aside Hp omen 14 , zenbook duo and redesigned asus Zephyrus g14 do look amazing. The remaining 2-3 laptops in CES seemed meh just spec refresh.
@@fidelisitor8953 if you watch JushJosh's review it actually has the same performance as the G16 but produces less heat and fan noise so 🤷♂ion know whatchu guys are waffling about lol
Huh. Might actually go with this now as the WinPC thin laptop of choice. Been looking for four years after holding out with an old work Dell and this seems like the thing I've been looking for to complement my MacBook Air.
@@quantumdot7393 Same mate! Definitely picking the g16 over this. Better 240Hz OLED display 🤤, better build (CNC aluminium) and design with no silly numpad, higher GPU options (up to RTX 4090) and a bigger battery as well in a device that's still thinner and lighter.
@@fidelisitor8953 yea exactly but honestly i wish the g16 had a numpad. it can be useful sometimes and the sides looks so empty without one. overall not a deal breaker. Also a 4090 is not going to be good value i wouldn't go above the 4080
@@fidelisitor8953I agree with everything, but I think lenovo is CNC machined as well, as far as I know(I am no expert) they can’t make the rounded edges with other methods. I have the 14 inch Pro X AMD model and judging by feel, I think it’s CNCed and anodized as well.
@@quantumdot7393 Don't like numpads because they push the main keyboard off to the right which makes it harder to type on and it also looks ugly. As for the 4090, it's still going to be useful for those (like me) that need that extra VRAM for stuff like 3d modelling.
How the hell do you completely avoid showing off the speakers which are the best competition vs Macbook Pro speakers?? Holy crap! Talk about dropping the ball with this video. 🤣🤣🤣
What do you mean " premium features for 1700 $ " ? By the time you select those premium features you are at least down to 3000 $ and that is a premium price as well .
I’m hugely looking forward to the second gen of Ultra chips - I never like buying 1st gen products cuz there tend to be large optimization gains in the follow up, even if the chip itself remains virtually unchanged. I just hope the Yoga line stays focused on efficiency and portability at the expense of raw performance - for years, I’ve been wanting a laptop that has performance maybe no better than a 3-4 yr old model, but has put all its improvements into efficiency, so I can get a machine with 100%+ longer battery life that actually lasts all day in the field. I feel like Intel was promising that for years, and, sure, they did get much more efficient, but they sucked it all up with greater performance, resulting in higher TPDs overall. Im hopeful that with the Ultra line we can actually get some falling TPDs
I red on notebookcheck that the Power adapter is to weak under heavy load and the Laptop drains the battery. Can you confirm this? I primary want to Game on this beautiful Mini LED Panel. But this would be a No-Go for me. Ty very much
Badly waiting for this Video mainly to know about two things, one is the battery and other to know whether it's good to wait for Lunar Lake which is being said to have 3x NPU performance compared to this one.
5:20 Battery capacity increased by 12%. If they had made it 99.99 watt hours, which every laptop should be by default, it would be a 33% increase which is badly needed for Intel machines.
We will comparison when Core ULTRA series 2 Arrow Lake comes out this year because Core ULTRA series 1 Meteor Lake is not high performance CPU but it is FASTER than M2 Pro or m3 pro chip in video editing without dGPU help.
16 GB of ram enough for somebody who’s not a power user or need it for work, I had a Lenovo c940 and extended the warranty and had some things replaced on it but they couldn’t replace the battery so now they are giving me this unit for a replacement with ultra 7, 4050 graphics, touch mini led display but only has 16gb of ram, will that be good. What they did is speck it out just like my C940 and they’re going to build it.
Avoid HP Spectre 16". I'm going to sent it back because it has poor performances and gets hot even in idle. Ah, mine comes with rtx 4050. Just ordered this lenovo, I'm waiting to see if there is any differenze.
Awesome review! Looking to upgrade my x1 carbon to either this or zephyrus g16. What would be your pick given top specs for yoga and 4070 g16? Any plns to bring these two side by side
The G16 is lighter, thinner, has more battery capacity and a better display if you like to game. Also, the build quality should be better with CNC aluminum
@@matiriquelme293had very good experience with lenovo so far, concerned about asus’ reliability, especially in humid/hot environment and frequent travelling. I agree g16 looks way more superior to pro 9i in almost every aspect, though the screen seams to wobble a lot from what i’ve seen
I'm nitpicking here, but isn't the contrast between the keys and the laptop too low, to the point where it's hard to see the keys? I know certain light grey colorways from ASUS are notorious for this, so was wondering if this Lenovo Yoga Pro might have the same issue.
you said they dropped the 14"...did they change their mind because i can find 14" Infact, it appears Best Buy has exclusive on 32mb configurations. i was about to buy one at $300 off but they are sold out now. :(
For an windows laptop this lenovo model is awesome. In my region it is priced at ~2500€. What do you think about this model compated to the macbook pro m3 max ? Price difference is of ~1000€. I've found m3 max at the same price as m3 pro. The laptop will be used for programming, daily tasks, probably some LLM, AI in the near future. Thinking about doing cross platform development also, but not 100% sure (only if i go with macOS will include iOS also). What do you think it is a good long term option?
Just went to go purchase the Yoga Pro 9i, with 64 GB - basically maxed out. But shortly after making the purchase, they cancelled it. I contacted Lenovo online (Spain's support number in not valid), and the sales support was so completely rude and unwilling to help make this purchase. I could not believe it!!! I really wanted this computer but if this is how they are... why would I? now will need to find another equal with the same 64 GB and 185H processor
@@iz723 Yes, it’s still there. I was finally able to get a hold of a helpful person at support. There are issues with their payment system as well as PayPal. I ended up using PayPal, but we could only complete the transaction after using a special invoice link they provided. It was also horrible in that the payments often were registered with the bank, only to cancel out after a few minutes. I hope I do not regret this. But this laptop seems to be the only one that really ticks all the checkboxes.
@@Bobbobson32 Could be! Call me a noob, how do I change that? She uses it for photography so the processor's integrated graphics work just fine 90% of the time.
@@donovankean The issue I had with my computer was it was using roughly using 25 watts at Idle; yet there was nothing running in the background according to Task Manager; except for 'System'. Well, issue appeared to be the Optimus feature found in Nvidia GPU; where the computer will try to decide whether to use the Nvidia GPU or the Integrated Graphics. To fix this, this is what I needed to do: - Open 'Task Manager' (just hit the "Windows Key" and type in "Task Manager" if you're not familiar with this.) - In the 'Task Manger' app, under the 'Performance Tab' make sure you can see both the Integrated Graphics (usually GPU 0) and the Nvidia Graphics (usually GPU 1). If you see both of those, that is great, and you can skip the rest of this paragraph. If you only see the Nvidia, then a setting in the "Bios" of the system may only have the Nvidia GPU running, which will use way more energy. (To get into your BIOs setting, you usually one will have to continually and Rapidly Pressing the "F2" key while booting back up from Restarting the computer (may have to hold down the 'function key' (also known as the 'FN' key, usually located next to the 'Windows Key'). From there, usually there is an 'Advanced Settings' where you can change the laptop to only use the Nvidia GPU, Auto Adjust, or Optimus. (I have mine set to Auto Adjust) - If / when you see both the Nvidia and Integrated graphics in Task Manager, likely older Nvidia Drivers didn't properly get written over. To fix this, when downloading new Drivers for the Nvidia GPU (either from Nvidia's Website or via the "GeForce Experience" app on the machine) *** When installing a new Driver, DO NOT select 'Express Installation' when prompted. INSTEAD select 'Custom Installation'. After doing so, hit OK to start the Installation Process. *** When the box show up to install, ***Make sure to check the 'Perform a Clean Installation' box prior to hitting 'Install***'. (This will make sure there is No Residual code remaining from a Previous Driver; for me, this was the 'Fix' for my crappery battery life). - That should be it. However, I have had still seen battery life degradation even after do as I stated above. It appears that some Nvidia Drivers are just better than others. I've had to revert to slightly older drivers, using the same steps I explained above, before my MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better battery life began to show up. Good luck.
How does one know they are actually shopping for the 2023 version as stated in this video? Can you provide a link right to the customize screen within the Lenovo website if it’s only available there for now.
It's hard to trust these people when this is basically a big advert paid for by Lenovo. I only realised halfway in when I realised he had nothing bad to say and kept saying things like 'impressive' 'one of the best' 'premium' and talking about huge improvements when actually it was maybe a 5-6% improvement. It's a bit depressing. Kind of pointless watching.
Confused by this. Just got the 14 inch Lenovo Yoga 9i (OLED) and wanted to find out if a larger lightweight version of my laptop is coming out in 2024. This video came up But I dont think mine is a Slim so I can not tell if a new version of THIS computer is coming out in 2023.
definitely definitely definitely remember to compare it with asus zephyrus G16 and you must compare these 2 laptop's speaker with Apple macbook pro 16 & 14. Please man do remember to do these because my buying decision depends on this T_T
Finally a look at the 185H, I wanted to see what Meteor Lake was really capable of and it took this long to show the top-end parts. I wonder how much of the "improvement" is just from them having a better cooling solution and carefully-tuned firmware, vs how much is strictly the basic potential of the 185H vs that of the 13905H. This always makes it so hard to assess laptop CPU/GPU performance. Same processor model #, very different performance. Also, I totally agree the "sponsored" alert should be *much* more prominent, I get these sense you folks were genuinely interested in looking at this hardware, but we still need to understand that interest in the context of there being a sponsor relationship so we can keep that in mind when viewing. Thanks for this, I found it very interesting myself!
There is only one TB4 port another is 3.2x2 that support only 20GB trabsfer and not suitable for TB dock station and the HDMI only support 4k@60Hrz more than that the usb-a ports support only 5MB and the SD reader is on the slow side supporting o ly UHS I. More over the wifi is 6e and cannot be upgraded to wifi 7. All these are killing drawback and how ni reviewer is clearing this.
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yeahh 1700 usd for an rtx 4050 sounds steep , 1.2 - 1.4k would be more justifiable then again powerful laptops that are thin & light cost more to make .
@@keerthan7558Base model is just arc igpu and an i5. So not powerful. None of the stuff highlighted in the video is in the base model. The fact that he never mentioned pricing on the premium model he’s advertising is pretty damning.
@@keerthan7558 yeah… I started watching because of the air cooler reviews but it seems that there’s more sponsor spots than actual content. And the information in these “overviews” is curated to the point of being misleading. All these fancy features being promoted and then the only price that’s mentioned is for an entirely different laptop.
The HDMI port is labeled as "HDMI 2.1 6Gbps 40K/60Hz"... That makes it obviously a "fake" HDMI 2.1 port that likely only supports TMDS, not FRL.. but even at that, SIX GBPS? How the hell do you get 4K/60Hz with 6 Gbps? 4 bit color?
Productivity is hampered by reflections, a shallow keyboard like everyone else, and no dedicated right and left click. From a usability perspective, I like my W530 more, just wish it had the power and battery life. Sucks that I have to use a reflective screen, bad keyboard, bad trackpad, and less durable laptop. Good for creators who work in light controlled rooms I suppose?
I don't like *miniLED* in my YOGA Pro 9i 2023. I mean, it's a high-quality IPS display in SDR mode, but I hate the glow effect around small objects on dark backgrounds in HDR mode. With an OLED screen, along with improved battery life and a second USB-C, the YOGA 2024 could be the perfect laptop.
@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree I have been using the budget ASUS Vivobook Pro 14 OLED for two years and nothing has happened to it. I like it better than YOGA's miniLED, despite the lower brightness. MiniLED also has an annoying shadow (lower brightness) around the edges of the screen.
“Pricing starts at $1699 which is pretty insane considering all the premium features this thing packs”. Except the base model has zero premium features aside from fast ram. So yeah… basic ips monitor, i5, integrated graphics, 16gb ram, 512gb storage for $1699 is pretty insane. Also sad.
Pretty sure you won't be able to get it with only integrated graphics.. Base model is 4050 right?
He’s got the configuration options up at at 9:41 and says Intel arc graphics or 4050 so I think base is just internal graphics?
That's "the "this product was sent by Lenovo" catch. Like not mentioning that 49 DBis of noise on a 16' with an Ultra CPU is not great at all.
Yeah, for this price we can get Legion Slim 7 with 4060-4070
@@blondegirl7240 Right? I get that it’s not a gaming laptop but a professional laptop that can game but the base model can’t even do that so you’re paying only for looks. But then why not get a vivobook? Might not quite have the Apple snob appeal but it still looks good and entirely appropriate for professional work. Also $1699 but for this model…
Intel Core i9 13th Gen 13900H 1.9GHz Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
32GB DDR4 RAM
1TB Solid State Drive
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
SD 4.0 Card Reader
2x2 Wi-Fi 6E+Bluetooth 5.0
16" 3.2K OLED 120Hz Display
Slower ram but twice as much. Twice the storage. The faster uhs-II card reader and drastically better specs and screen. Also the 99wh battery. Same price as the Lenovo base model that has basically zero of the features mentioned in this “overview”.
I think you should indicate this is a sponsored video somewhere before the 1:00 minute mark of the video; in the title, at the top of the description
agreed, Should be a lot easier to see.
I didn't even realise it was sponsored as I jumped straight to the bits I was interested in.
Huge red flag tbh.
He starts out saying that he partnered with Lenovo to showcase the laptop 🤔
I think since they have chapters, the people that skip to what they want it is not obvious to them. Think if they had a watermark that it's sponsored by whomever the whole video would be better. Not just HW but every sponsored video. @christhe812
@@christhe812 At the one minute mark... which is what I said in my comment
Microsoft gotta stop trying to push copilot.
It’s not that big of a deal. People gotta stop being so dramatic
@@raminMTLi’m saying…everyone is gonna use it eventually
Yea it's pretty good, I just wish they can use more of a mini-window size for it rather than 1/3 of the screen.
And edge ... Edge is a nuisance no one wants
@@BR0KK85Edge is pretty decent tho, and better than Chrome so 🤷♂️
After seeing what Dell is doing with the XPS 16, I'm very happy that this exists.
You mean the apple style touch bar?
@@xisigmaexecpt it does not have any functionality
No 14 inch model is crazy, hope they bring it back next year.
I hope that they plan to refresh it this year, but a bit later. The model with 13th gen intel CPUs is less than 6 months old
There is a Pro 7i 14
Not sure if the processor it has is as fast as the latest though@@sampadkar19
@@epos_rising It has i7
Starting at $1699, so you mean that's $1699 for the version with no dedicated GPU? Good Lord.
What do you mean exactly? I believe the Base laptop configuration has a 4050
@@SOG989 It seems the base model has Intel integrated graphics.
@@SirCaco 😆 my bad, you're right LoooL my brain couldn't imagine buying this with no dGPU. Honestly I just find it funny but I guess someone out there wouldn't mind
the one with a rtx 4070 and 64gb ram and 2gb ssd costs 2400 francs in Switzerland. Frankly, it's not expensive at all the asus g14 with 16gb and rtx 4070 costs the same, and the lenovo has a 120hz miniled screen.
@@tamasvarga9862 I'm not surprised you find it inexpensive, since Switzerland's minimum wage is 5 thousand dollars a month.
Battery life upgrade is big W. Hopefully* you can charge via Type C like the Legion laptops at 140W.
Yes you can charge via USB C through the Thunderbolt 4 port on the left side which can also be used as DisplayPort 1.4
im excited for my framework 16 that can charge 240w over type c
It is an upgrade compared to the rubbish battery life we got on Intel 13th gen, but compared with AMD and Apple, it is still playing catch up.
@@andyH_Englandcompared to the Yoga Slim 7. It's pretty much there already.
@@andyH_England
watch his MacBook Pro 16 in the same test got same BATTERY LIFE like Intel
@@andyH_Englandwatch his Zenbook 14 review.
All fun and games until the price reveal.
I mean it’s a creator laptop after all, but that really isn’t much of an excuse anyways…
Great video, thanks. Following your link, it seems Lenovo is still offering both the Yoga and Slim, contrary to your comment they are dropping Slim. Lenovo: You have too many models and variations; give people a break by simplifying the product line, and make more money by not offering so many options >>> Paradox of Choice freezes buyers in their tracks.
No Windows Hello or Fingerprint reader in,.....2024? Why do these manufacturer *UTTERLY FAILS* to include such an important hardware feature?
🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Windows facial recognition via camera + ir and pin
I'm hoping there was a bit of a mistake with the pricing slide, because $1699 for Arc grapics and 16gb ram with a normal IPS display is really expensive. Even if you mean CAD, that's not a great price.
true at that price just get MacBook which is vastly superior
@@TheMr82kno
For the same price you can get a last year Legion Slim 5 with 4050 and Ryzen 7840HS. Who cares about external look when you can get a better performance with the same price
youtubers have become so disconnected, stop selling out dude, the only thing insane about this is how high the price is, not to mention its without VAT. Its gonna be like 2K+ euros in western EU for example
Would love to see this compared side by side to the Asus g16 2024
Same🎉
g16 has loud fan noise
Goodbye Dell.
Who is dell?
Hi Sir, do you know of any way to buy this laptop with a 4070 and 64 GB of RAM in the USA. The option appears in the UK site, but not in the US site.
Damn I was hoping for the 14 inch to get upgraded, you'd think they'd keep it around given the popularity of the Asus G14
There is a Pro 7i 14'
same. I bought last years version but It had a screen issue and I had to give it back. The only issues with it was that screen issue (obviously), and the battery life kinda sucked. Kind of disappointed I was really crossing my fingers for this one
@@sampadkar19 Yea, But Pro 7i is limited to like 16 or 32GB RAM. Why can't we have 64GB RAM on a 14" and an RTX 4070 or 4080? Without OLED and burn-ins?
@@benji_builder What model had screen issues? And what were the issues? Was it an OLED screen?
The 14" Gen 8 version. It wasn't an oled screen it was the miniLED. In 120hz mode the screen would flicker (when using the intel processor), but connected to a monitor there would be no issues - leading me to believe it was more than a drivers issue. I did a lot of digging and noticed it was quite a common problem and saw that other people had refunded theirs, so I did so too.@@eladbari
I cannot wait for this laptop to come out. I want to buy a laptop RIGHT FREAKING NOW and cannot wait 2 more months for this one to come out.
OK, so I'm gonna be honest here. I love Hardware Canucks, been a follower for a long time. However, when watching this video, something clicked. Notice how he continuously praises the PC, from it's slick design to its great cooling and great camera and speakers and so on. What I consider to be a red flag, is not mentioning its problems. OK, I get it, the video is sponsored by Lenovo, but that shouldn't affect the review. Go watch Just Josh videos and notice how the PC that, in your mind, is perfect, turns out to be full of problems and flaws. It's because he really tests them, as a real user, while being neutral. I'm not commenting because I want you to watch Just Josh video, but to point the problem I'm seeing. I'm really disappointed by this video and I hope this would change in the future.
Josh hasnt tested this year's Yoga 9i just yet, he just did the previous one.
this is NOT a review, he said that. The full review will came later this year. A sponsored video cannot be a review.
Clearly this is a good laptop for developers. So it is interesting to comment on the eye-strain with this 165Hz mini-LED display. Also comment on the CPU temperature and fan noise db, when
a) coding (what is battery life then?)
b) compiling using Visual Studio (battery life)
c) running some numerically intensive code such as Geekbench 6 or Cinebench (battery life)
How its battery life compares with HP Spectre x360 14 inch 2024 (sound and cpu temperature)
How does it compare with ASUS Zenbook 14 2024 155H?
How does it compare with similar laptops using AMD Ryzen 7840U in terms of battery life, CPU temps and fan noise.
In the US (at the moment at least) you can't get one with the 4070. Best Buy will be selling them, but be sure to read the specs closely, because they often sell models that are slightly different than what's available straight from the manufacturer. Also, Costco sells this, but they're actually selling the 2023 model.
Have 2023 model. Bottom made of plactics and always has extra noise when touch the body. Also the sounds craks every time on low volume. Seems because of the plastic bottom. Also had a problem with low perfomance (improved by stopping Nvidei Container service). Screen is so glossy, can't see when sunlight. And the light from the keyboard always reflects on the screen.
Sir, you safed my money.
Did I miss the part about user-upgradable ram and the number of m.2 slots?
why are they slowly killing 14" gaming, powerful laptops 😭? i hope there'll still be some good models left few years down the line , when i decide to upgrade .
Weren’t there a bunch of new 14in gaming laptops announced at CES? I saw JarrodTech show off quite a few
@@crestofhonor2349 I was mainly refering to Lenovo replacing many of their 14" with 16" both in legion and yoga lineup.
That aside Hp omen 14 , zenbook duo and redesigned asus Zephyrus g14 do look amazing. The remaining 2-3 laptops in CES seemed meh just spec refresh.
Hey! Great video. Any idea why Lenovo is only selling the model with the 4060 right now? Can't find this model with the 4070 on their site. Thanks!
It's only in North America. It's available in Europe and Asia.
Isn't it thicker, heavier and has less battery capacity than the zephyrus G16?
Exactly my thoughts. The new g16 would be a much better buy than this lenovo.
@fidelisitor8953
G16 2024 is much better.
@@fidelisitor8953 if you watch JushJosh's review it actually has the same performance as the G16 but produces less heat and fan noise so 🤷♂ion know whatchu guys are waffling about lol
Not sure if they changed it, but asus screens are all anti-glare matte. Can't stand them.
@@xisigma G16 Is glossy
Huh. Might actually go with this now as the WinPC thin laptop of choice. Been looking for four years after holding out with an old work Dell and this seems like the thing I've been looking for to complement my MacBook Air.
I am personally eyeing the new Asus ROG g16. it seems to beat this guy in every category.
@@quantumdot7393 Same mate! Definitely picking the g16 over this. Better 240Hz OLED display 🤤, better build (CNC aluminium) and design with no silly numpad, higher GPU options (up to RTX 4090) and a bigger battery as well in a device that's still thinner and lighter.
@@fidelisitor8953 yea exactly but honestly i wish the g16 had a numpad. it can be useful sometimes and the sides looks so empty without one. overall not a deal breaker. Also a 4090 is not going to be good value i wouldn't go above the 4080
@@fidelisitor8953I agree with everything, but I think lenovo is CNC machined as well, as far as I know(I am no expert) they can’t make the rounded edges with other methods. I have the 14 inch Pro X AMD model and judging by feel, I think it’s CNCed and anodized as well.
@@quantumdot7393 Don't like numpads because they push the main keyboard off to the right which makes it harder to type on and it also looks ugly. As for the 4090, it's still going to be useful for those (like me) that need that extra VRAM for stuff like 3d modelling.
How the hell do you completely avoid showing off the speakers which are the best competition vs Macbook Pro speakers??
Holy crap! Talk about dropping the ball with this video. 🤣🤣🤣
That battery improvement is AMAZING
IRL "light use" is quite a bit lower.
hows the performance difference against the bigger laptop such as legion 5 or 7? would it still perform lower?
What do you mean " premium features for 1700 $ " ?
By the time you select those premium features you are at least down to 3000 $ and that is a premium price as well .
I’m hugely looking forward to the second gen of Ultra chips - I never like buying 1st gen products cuz there tend to be large optimization gains in the follow up, even if the chip itself remains virtually unchanged. I just hope the Yoga line stays focused on efficiency and portability at the expense of raw performance - for years, I’ve been wanting a laptop that has performance maybe no better than a 3-4 yr old model, but has put all its improvements into efficiency, so I can get a machine with 100%+ longer battery life that actually lasts all day in the field.
I feel like Intel was promising that for years, and, sure, they did get much more efficient, but they sucked it all up with greater performance, resulting in higher TPDs overall. Im hopeful that with the Ultra line we can actually get some falling TPDs
Hey, from the PSREF documentation on Lenovo, there seems to be no option with a glossy touch screen and a 4070 GPU. Which model did you test?
Yes in Korea too, there is no4070 model with glass panel
I red on notebookcheck that the Power adapter is to weak under heavy load and the Laptop drains the battery. Can you confirm this? I primary want to Game on this beautiful Mini LED Panel. But this would be a No-Go for me. Ty very much
It’s true. I can confirm. I bought this laptop recently. Disappointed by multiple issues unfortunately
Badly waiting for this Video mainly to know about two things, one is the battery and other to know whether it's good to wait for Lunar Lake which is being said to have 3x NPU performance compared to this one.
I really hope lenovo makes an AMD version when strix point comes out.
Strix point after Arrow and Lunar Lake laptops.
Still going to be crushed by apple silicon IF THEY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Good thing they changed the pricing. You can get a Ultra 7 155H, IPS panel, and RTX40506gb for only about 1482 with 16gb Ram and 512gb storage
5:20 Battery capacity increased by 12%. If they had made it 99.99 watt hours, which every laptop should be by default, it would be a 33% increase which is badly needed for Intel machines.
So, the base model is without RTX GPU?
Do a asus zypherus 16 2024
You should definitely do a comparison between this and the MacBook pro 16
We will comparison when Core ULTRA series 2 Arrow Lake comes out this year because Core ULTRA series 1 Meteor Lake is not high performance CPU but it is FASTER than M2 Pro or m3 pro chip in video editing without dGPU help.
@@HDRPC who are "we"?
@@MrSiKO12 genuine CZcamsrs.
There is no RTX 4070 coming to U.S. markets unfortunately. Bummer.
16 GB of ram enough for somebody who’s not a power user or need it for work, I had a Lenovo c940 and extended the warranty and had some things replaced on it but they couldn’t replace the battery so now they are giving me this unit for a replacement with ultra 7, 4050 graphics, touch mini led display but only has 16gb of ram, will that be good. What they did is speck it out just like my C940 and they’re going to build it.
Looks great! Did you have time to check the battery performance? I'm curious: what is the drop in performance when you unplug it from the wall.
how does it looks in competition to the new 16“ dell xps?
love my intel 11th gen yoga.. its my daily driver for work.. the battery life is great for long work hours
arguably im closer to this compared to desktop, many things been done w this, will be sad when this finally joins 'military'
The Yoga 9i 16' with the Nvidia RTX 4070 is a UNICORN
Are the fans off in Browsing/Yt?
It would be great if the 2025 version came with a 99.9W battery, 3.5K/4K OLED 120Hz and Intel Core Ultra 200V series🔥
Having such a tough decision, between this beast when it comes out, or just getting the 32gb 2tb ssd spectre x360
Difenetly get this one
the spectre has not nvidia gpus
If you want powerful dGPU so go with this otherwise HP spectre X360 2024 is better.
Avoid HP Spectre 16". I'm going to sent it back because it has poor performances and gets hot even in idle. Ah, mine comes with rtx 4050. Just ordered this lenovo, I'm waiting to see if there is any differenze.
@@HDRPC where did you find it? I can't seem to find this yoga
yeah but the great glossy screen is only available up to 4060?? why not have the good screeen with the 4070, makes no sense
Hi from Argentina. Many thanks, very thorough review. Do you know when is going to be available to for buying it in the US? Many thanks
Looks like best in class)
Awesome review! Looking to upgrade my x1 carbon to either this or zephyrus g16. What would be your pick given top specs for yoga and 4070 g16? Any plns to bring these two side by side
The G16 is lighter, thinner, has more battery capacity and a better display if you like to game. Also, the build quality should be better with CNC aluminum
@@matiriquelme293had very good experience with lenovo so far, concerned about asus’ reliability, especially in humid/hot environment and frequent travelling. I agree g16 looks way more superior to pro 9i in almost every aspect, though the screen seams to wobble a lot from what i’ve seen
G16 is way better
G16 is lighter and has brighter display(500nit)
Yoga pro9i is cheaper and quieter
And touch fuction is available
I'm nitpicking here, but isn't the contrast between the keys and the laptop too low, to the point where it's hard to see the keys? I know certain light grey colorways from ASUS are notorious for this, so was wondering if this Lenovo Yoga Pro might have the same issue.
It's true that Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (2024) has a screen hinge that allows for an opening of up to approximately 180 degrees?
you said they dropped the 14"...did they change their mind because i can find 14" Infact, it appears Best Buy has exclusive on 32mb configurations. i was about to buy one at $300 off but they are sold out now. :(
Any word on the 4070 model with 64 GB in the US? The Lenovo site shows only 4060 and 32 GB available for purchase. I'm anxious to get my hands on one.
And did u get one?
Key questions:
Ram soldered?
SSD soldered?
Ram soldered?
Price of highest model is it overpriced?
This is a sponsored overview. Wait for other reviews for a more in-depth analysis with cons and pros.
I think this laptop is definition of the ideal windows laptop on the market today.
Why?
For an windows laptop this lenovo model is awesome. In my region it is priced at ~2500€.
What do you think about this model compated to the macbook pro m3 max ? Price difference is of ~1000€. I've found m3 max at the same price as m3 pro.
The laptop will be used for programming, daily tasks, probably some LLM, AI in the near future. Thinking about doing cross platform development also, but not 100% sure (only if i go with macOS will include iOS also).
What do you think it is a good long term option?
Is the battery really that good 9 hours i just ordered mine did test the battery are those your results andwhat settings to achieve that
Just went to go purchase the Yoga Pro 9i, with 64 GB - basically maxed out. But shortly after making the purchase, they cancelled it. I contacted Lenovo online (Spain's support number in not valid), and the sales support was so completely rude and unwilling to help make this purchase. I could not believe it!!! I really wanted this computer but if this is how they are... why would I? now will need to find another equal with the same 64 GB and 185H processor
Are you still able to see it on the website?
@@iz723 Yes, it’s still there. I was finally able to get a hold of a helpful person at support. There are issues with their payment system as well as PayPal. I ended up using PayPal, but we could only complete the transaction after using a special invoice link they provided. It was also horrible in that the payments often were registered with the bank, only to cancel out after a few minutes. I hope I do not regret this. But this laptop seems to be the only one that really ticks all the checkboxes.
How on God's green earth were you able to get 6 hours in the Slim 9i?? My wife has it with the 4060 and she rarely gets more than 2 hours.
You probably have the 4060 always being used
@@Bobbobson32 Could be! Call me a noob, how do I change that? She uses it for photography so the processor's integrated graphics work just fine 90% of the time.
Try going into the bios or maybe even grahphics properties in Nvidia's control panel.@@donovankean
@@donovankean
The issue I had with my computer was it was using roughly using 25 watts at Idle; yet there was nothing running in the background according to Task Manager; except for 'System'.
Well, issue appeared to be the Optimus feature found in Nvidia GPU; where the computer will try to decide whether to use the Nvidia GPU or the Integrated Graphics.
To fix this, this is what I needed to do:
- Open 'Task Manager' (just hit the "Windows Key" and type in "Task Manager" if you're not familiar with this.)
- In the 'Task Manger' app, under the 'Performance Tab' make sure you can see both the Integrated Graphics (usually GPU 0) and the Nvidia Graphics (usually GPU 1). If you see both of those, that is great, and you can skip the rest of this paragraph. If you only see the Nvidia, then a setting in the "Bios" of the system may only have the Nvidia GPU running, which will use way more energy. (To get into your BIOs setting, you usually one will have to continually and Rapidly Pressing the "F2" key while booting back up from Restarting the computer (may have to hold down the 'function key' (also known as the 'FN' key, usually located next to the 'Windows Key'). From there, usually there is an 'Advanced Settings' where you can change the laptop to only use the Nvidia GPU, Auto Adjust, or Optimus. (I have mine set to Auto Adjust)
- If / when you see both the Nvidia and Integrated graphics in Task Manager, likely older Nvidia Drivers didn't properly get written over. To fix this, when downloading new Drivers for the Nvidia GPU (either from Nvidia's Website or via the "GeForce Experience" app on the machine) *** When installing a new Driver, DO NOT select 'Express Installation' when prompted. INSTEAD select 'Custom Installation'. After doing so, hit OK to start the Installation Process. *** When the box show up to install, ***Make sure to check the 'Perform a Clean Installation' box prior to hitting 'Install***'. (This will make sure there is No Residual code remaining from a Previous Driver; for me, this was the 'Fix' for my crappery battery life).
- That should be it. However, I have had still seen battery life degradation even after do as I stated above. It appears that some Nvidia Drivers are just better than others. I've had to revert to slightly older drivers, using the same steps I explained above, before my MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better battery life began to show up.
Good luck.
Why would they get rid of 14inch model? It was perfect size for portability for so many users.
How does one know they are actually shopping for the 2023 version as stated in this video? Can you provide a link right to the customize screen within the Lenovo website if it’s only available there for now.
It's hard to trust these people when this is basically a big advert paid for by Lenovo. I only realised halfway in when I realised he had nothing bad to say and kept saying things like 'impressive' 'one of the best' 'premium' and talking about huge improvements when actually it was maybe a 5-6% improvement. It's a bit depressing. Kind of pointless watching.
Confused by this. Just got the 14 inch Lenovo Yoga 9i (OLED) and wanted to find out if a larger lightweight version of my laptop is coming out in 2024. This video came up But I dont think mine is a Slim so I can not tell if a new version of THIS computer is coming out in 2023.
Thnx for the video! How does this compare to the T16 G3?
Can the laptop be charged from the Type-C port?
Who is manufacturing this magical 7500mhz ram?
definitely definitely definitely remember to compare it with asus zephyrus G16 and you must compare these 2 laptop's speaker with Apple macbook pro 16 & 14. Please man do remember to do these because my buying decision depends on this T_T
Gosh! There's NO Option for a 14" inch 4070 + 64GB option in 2024...?! 😢😢😢
we need a 99 wh battery
This laptop would be perfect if it had no numpad. Offset keyboard and trackpad is such a dealbreaker.
Was the screen tested in HDR mode? Noticed any blooming?
Finally a look at the 185H, I wanted to see what Meteor Lake was really capable of and it took this long to show the top-end parts.
I wonder how much of the "improvement" is just from them having a better cooling solution and carefully-tuned firmware, vs how much is strictly the basic potential of the 185H vs that of the 13905H. This always makes it so hard to assess laptop CPU/GPU performance. Same processor model #, very different performance.
Also, I totally agree the "sponsored" alert should be *much* more prominent, I get these sense you folks were genuinely interested in looking at this hardware, but we still need to understand that interest in the context of there being a sponsor relationship so we can keep that in mind when viewing.
Thanks for this, I found it very interesting myself!
There is only one TB4 port another is 3.2x2 that support only 20GB trabsfer and not suitable for TB dock station and the HDMI only support 4k@60Hrz more than that the usb-a ports support only 5MB and the SD reader is on the slow side supporting o ly UHS I. More over the wifi is 6e and cannot be upgraded to wifi 7. All these are killing drawback and how ni reviewer is clearing this.
Is this laptop sold in canada? Cant seem to find it on lenovo's site
This only comes with a 4060 in the US markets, it is not available in the 4070 configuration.
Where is that full performance review?
hi, would you choose Lenovo - Yoga Pro 9i 16" 3.2K Touchscreen Laptop - Intel Core Ultra 9 185H with 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 - 1TB SSD - Luna Grey for $1899 or Lenovo - Slim Pro 9i 14.5" 3k MiniLED Touchscreen Laptop - Core i7-13705H with 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 - 1TB SSD - Storm Grey for $1399. Both in Best Buy. Thank you.
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Pen support?
I want their 2-in-1 to have a 4070!
pro 9i without i9
$1699 Is Def Abit TOO Step Compared To Other Known Brands Of Similar Specs...
yeahh 1700 usd for an rtx 4050 sounds steep , 1.2 - 1.4k would be more justifiable then again powerful laptops that are thin & light cost more to make .
@@keerthan7558 $1400 at most is what it should be valued
@@keerthan7558Base model is just arc igpu and an i5. So not powerful. None of the stuff highlighted in the video is in the base model. The fact that he never mentioned pricing on the premium model he’s advertising is pretty damning.
@@DickGently wtf that's insane , yeahh this channel has pretty much become a hub for paid reviews especially for dell and Lenovo.
@@keerthan7558 yeah… I started watching because of the air cooler reviews but it seems that there’s more sponsor spots than actual content. And the information in these “overviews” is curated to the point of being misleading. All these fancy features being promoted and then the only price that’s mentioned is for an entirely different laptop.
The HDMI port is labeled as "HDMI 2.1 6Gbps 40K/60Hz"... That makes it obviously a "fake" HDMI 2.1 port that likely only supports TMDS, not FRL.. but even at that, SIX GBPS? How the hell do you get 4K/60Hz with 6 Gbps? 4 bit color?
Really wanted to buy this one but them exclude stylus support, so have to have HP instead. That's a shame
Productivity is hampered by reflections, a shallow keyboard like everyone else, and no dedicated right and left click.
From a usability perspective, I like my W530 more, just wish it had the power and battery life. Sucks that I have to use a reflective screen, bad keyboard, bad trackpad, and less durable laptop.
Good for creators who work in light controlled rooms I suppose?
You can buy it with matte screen
You're right, just checked, but it's only the low end skus and I can't get the higher end CPU or GPU with it. And it's only 400 nits. :( @@iz723
Ugh.. we lose the right control key for the "Copilot" keu - couldn't they have have doubled it up with the right-menu key?
I still wish I could have gotten my Slim Pro 9i in tidal teal in the states
I wish they have more nvme slot.
There is a 14" Yoga 9.
Thanks for the Ad.....
Low buget RAZER laptop will smash this.
This only comes with a RTX 4050 and 4060? No RTX 4070 is available?
Is this better than the Samsung book 4 Ultra?
I don't like *miniLED* in my YOGA Pro 9i 2023. I mean, it's a high-quality IPS display in SDR mode, but I hate the glow effect around small objects on dark backgrounds in HDR mode. With an OLED screen, along with improved battery life and a second USB-C, the YOGA 2024 could be the perfect laptop.
At least the display will last longer than an oled variant
@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree I have been using the budget ASUS Vivobook Pro 14 OLED for two years and nothing has happened to it. I like it better than YOGA's miniLED, despite the lower brightness. MiniLED also has an annoying shadow (lower brightness) around the edges of the screen.
i wonder what the battery life is with the arc gpu
Hopefully they fixed the trackpad. That ish was sensitive af.