CZ 457 VARMINT MTR .22lr with CCI Standard Velocity @ 50 yards ~ FINALLY!
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- This is CCI SV and it is the final ammo test in this series!
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My 457 varmint loves pistol match and standard plus.
I love the way you say "Hello guys and gals.....". It's so welcoming.
I love that you do 25 seasoning shots. I can't get folks to even do 3-5. Thanks for that.
Your sharing info isn't considered "rambling". Such a well thought out and executed series. This has been informative, relaxing and entertaining. Looking forward to the finals! As always, thanks for your time doing this. Have a blessed day.
This series has been a lot of fun! Dont sell yourself short. Somebody ALWAYS has a better way...... whether it is or not, they will feel compelled to tell you. You did a fantastic job. Laid out the scenarios from the start and followed them! This is what we ended with. I really enjoyed this and you have my respects.
God bless all here.
This has been a Great Series!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those 457's like SK Rifle Match & SK STD+ too.
Great 22lr series,just goes to show you never know what a particular rifle will shoot well until you try a bunch of different ammo
Thanx for the series, good job
Great job Buffalo!
I tested two lots of Lapua Midas + at 100 yards in my CZ MTR. One averaged .794” groups, the other averaged 1.941”. Average of three 5-shot groups. Shot with a $1,000 one-piece rest. I’m a pretty good shooter.
This couldn't be more timely as I just purchased the same CZ. Really appreciate your dedication in bringing this series to all of us.
Really enjoyed the series, thanks
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I was surprised on how much damage the 303 did on the clay blocks in your last video 👍
When Whotee's done with those clay blocks, some of them should be shown in the Metropolitan Museum of Art! They have an unusual beauty to them.
Hear that Adam? 25 shots to season the barrel. Lol. 3-5 is pretty reasonable. I wouldn't do 25 myself. It does make a difference though. I've tested it.
Thank you for this info, I love your videos. I just bought my first decent 22 bolt gun at 56 years old & am loving it, The CZ 457 Lux. Plan on bringing those squirrels home this year.
Did you get any squirrels?
I thought the CCI SV would have done better but it was up against some tough competition. This series proves whats been known by competition shooters for a long time. Each rifle, each barrel, each lot number, etc. will perform differently out of the exact same set up. Each rifle has its own "personality" preferring one ammo over the other. For the money Eley Tenex and Lapua CenterX should perform the best. I don't know of any 22LR ammo that is more consistent. Enter your Top 3 contenders. One never knows what's best in THEIR particular rifle until you try it. When you do find that sweet spot, go buy all of that lot number you can find. Lot numbers can and do make a difference for the smallest groups. If you're hunting squirrels, even the 10th place CCI SV is good enough.
It was a great series ... THANKS !!! I'd love to see a similar series with .22 WMR using your new Savage Precision MDT ???
I’ve really enjoyed this series. Have a CZ 457 and a CZ 452. Both are very accurate, very well built rifles.
One possible conclusion..sk makes some very consistent👍👍
European rifle. European ammo. I guess they like each other.
Looking forward to the final and the new setup.
I have really enjoyed this series. Thank you.
I have had the honor to work with some of the world's top scientists in the pharmaceutical industry and find that you are a more exacting scientist than the lot of them, put together. I am in awe of your self-discipline and control of variables. Well done, sir!
Yep, this channel's info is so much better than "safe and effective jabs"
Its the mass of the projectile that affects the group size I found (the case and powder differences being inconsequential), so when I get varying groups like that in .22LR, I weight batch the ammo, to within 1 grain groups (like 50.5 to 51.4, 51.5 to 52.4, 52.5 to 53.4 etc.) this way I get the tightest groups out of the standard ammo.. Keep up the great work Buffalo.
Like so many others have already stated, thanks so much for this series Buffalo. It's been a pleasure to watch as all your videos are. A chance to enjoy your easy pace, excellent skills and learn something interesting to boot. Great stuff. Best wishes to you and yours.
I have really enjoyed this series. Camera superb with you shooting, another shot of chrono and last the targets. Perfect to me. Now for the final shoot off. And the best part is it's all 22lr. Thanks Buffalo for all the work you put into this series.
Well done mate. This has been a great series and I have enjoyed it very much. I have only 50 rounds of the CCI through my MTR and hope it does as well as yours. Can't wait for the finale.
You have done a fantastic job on all ten of theses tests. I am looking forward to the final shoot out. Thank you.
Great series of videos on the 22LR, thank you. I love how you are a stickler about keeping every aspect as consistent as humanly possible. We all know that inconsistent procedures produce invalid results.Another ATTA-BOY thrown your way on how well you've persevered with this series on the 22LR in spite of all of the other aspects of life thrown your way during the production of these videos. Thank you once again!
Keep up the fantastic work your doing, it's always appreciated.
Awesome series Buffalo! The CCI surprised me a lot. When 22 ammo gets back on the shelf I'm going to check out that SK ammo! Thanks for all your hard work Buffalo.
Thanks for all your vids bro. I really enjoy your positive vibe!
integrity is the deciding factor in good testing. and I gotta say you have it! this has been a really fun and informative series Buffalo. Thanks for what you do and how you do it! i'm almost sad to see it coming to an end! Great video Buffalo.
Thank you for putting the time and money in for the rest of us.
I’ve really enjoyed the whole series so far. The picture and sound are professional quality and your presentation style is great. + 1 subscriber right here.
Really like this ammunition comparing series. Very good job!
Thanks for the entertainment it just goes to show how different rifles react to ammo . Great job Buffalo I love your channel
What a great series buffalo I can't wait to see the final result as always thanks for bringing us along.
You haven't enjoyed it as much as I have, thank you very much!! Looking foward to the shoot off, well done
The shoot off will be so interesting 🧐, don’t under sell yourself Buffalo 🦬, your items are always very relevant and professional.
Very nice series. Well done Buffalo!!
Thanks for the video. Nice to see how different ammo shoots.
Another great video. Looking forward to future tests and modifications with the CZ MTR
I had high hopes for the CCI SV. Still a great video and a great series. I appreciate your discipline to keep everything as consistent as possible. Good work. I look forward to the showdown and to your other videos.
I like the shade over the bench, summer is almost here, Thanks for the video Buffalo!
I've enjoyed this whole series !!!!
Looking forward to the top 3 shoot off. I have really enjoyed watching this series. Thanks a lot.
You’ve got a roof over you head. A new addition.
In my experience a .22 is more cartridge particular than almost any other round. This video backs that up. Good job Buffalo, love the aw shucks way you talk to us!
........and AGAIN an excellent, unbiased and informative video..........THANKS Buffalo!!! Greetz from the Netherlands.
Thanks, Buffalo!
This has been an interesting series. During this series my wife got her CZ 457 (she chose the "At-One" stock and 24" barrel) and has been very satisfied with it. We have a large stock of Wolf Match Target (older, SK made) ammo on hand and that is what she uses. It did well in your test, but didn't make the cut. If the prices come back down, we will experiment with some of the others you tested.
I really enjoy these detailed examinations.
Please continue this with other cartridges!
Thanks for this series, I've really enjoyed it. I'm not really surprised with the CCI SV's as I have personally seen better to worse groups with different lots out of my rifles. That just shows to the lack of consistency within that tier of ammo and with the new owners pumping them out as fast as they can to keep up with demand so who knows what we'll be seeing. What I am surprised with is the rifle itself, especially having a match chamber. You have covered some very popular target ammo brands but they produced such a varied measure of groups and guessing from the same lot numbers. This leads me to believe something in the rifle is not quiet dialed in. I would hope you can get to the bottom of it or that CZ would be going down the road. Thanks again.
I'm so glad you got yourself a roof over your bench. I've seen a few of your vids where it's either wet or covered with frozen wet.
Even though I don't have a CZ rifle,, I loved the series & I'm really looking forward to the grand finale of the top three.
Thank you and I enjoyed the heck out of this test. Since I had just received my MTR it has been invaluable information. Would like to see the test continue if you can find ten more different kinds of 22lr ammo.👍
Great video series. I watched the one where you had to scrape the snow and ice off bench and I commented about getting a shelter built and 1 hr. later I see you got it done. Lol.
Thank You for your info !
Love the shade carport you got setup! Looks awesome and I’m sure it keeps the sun off of you and keeps you cool. You’re gonna need it in the next several months ahead!
Thank you for great review.
Hello from Ohio. My MTR likes RWS branded ammo. I just did a 10 group (5 shots each) test. My set up is similar to yours. 457 Varmint MTR, Caldwell Rock front, Sightron Sii 36x42. My rear bag is a protektor (rabbit ears). My trigger has the yo dave spring (10oz). I was shooting RWS Target Rifle (8.50 a box). Wind was 0-2mph. My average size was 0.371!
Thank you again!
Yes, SK comes from the Lapua family 😎👍🥇
Very Nice roof
Great stuff Buff! 👍😃✌️🇺🇸
Good work, Buffalo.
Great video, as always. Thanks for doing this series!
I'm not surprised the different SK types comes out on top and CCI Standard at the bottom - just like my own experience the CCI's can give a good group now and then but mostly it's 3 (or 4 at best) together + 1 or 2 flyers. Doing 10 shot groups makes it worse, sometimes dramatically so.
Nice video, well done.
that's great shooting for 10 different box's of 22lr.well done.
Thanks, a great series............... now let's see the top three challenge !!
And I enjoyed your ammo test series, thank you for your efforts. Out of every 8 groups a person can expect 2 of the groups to be dime size or less with this ammo.
Thanks for the video. I have just purchased a CZ 457 . Hopefully I can get it shooting good soon. I have to get a scope and rings plus base. Very enjoyable and interesting.
Im liking those groups!👍👍
Buffalo Brother you are just about out of the rabbit hole - what an awesome series thank you much. Now you know in this online game better than anyone else there is always a BUT. There is a lot of debate in my circles that the new boxed CCISV stuff that you have here has a new recipe. I am told that the old CCI was using Vihtavuori propellant which is known for it's clean burning characteristics. The new stuff, I am not sure what it is but it is much dirtier. --- SO that leads me to, do you have any of the older CCISV to test against? I have been trying to find some of the new CCI myself if you know where I can get some please let me know.
Again great presentation, I can't wait until the finals are underway.
Just got a new CZ 457 Varmint and CCI Standard Velocity shoots great out of it. So far haven't found anything it doesn't like. Wolf Match Match Target, SK Standard Plus shoots very well also. Got a some more to test later. Crazy how different rifles shoot different ammo well.
I believe all the tested brands of ammo shot well enough to use as hunting ammo at the range you tested them. The one that wins the overall final test makes a good standard to judge the others by. The question is; how much it costs to use for the difference in performance. Any that the average groups hovers around .5-inches is pretty good performance at 50 yards. It might be interesting to see the best of the best groups tested at 100 yards. That might show what bullets do better at longer distance. This brings up the question of using 40 grain loads that shoot in the 1,200 feet per-second velocity range. Sometimes they do as good as standard target velocity ammo does at 100-yards. You will see target shooters shooting for score make multiple slight sight adjustment shooting for score during a match. They are more interested in keeping each shot inside the X-ring than shooting tight groups. Try that sometime and see why target shooters made target style turrets so popular now days.
I would have bet on these cci results, I think people like it because its reliable in plinkers. I shoot benchrest matches weekly and I've never seen cci complete
Great stuff......... as usual. 👍🏼
Hi I have really enjoyed your videos and looking forward to seeing the final three sets of amo . You did a great job 🥃🥃👍
Great series! Keep up the terrific work. Have the same cz and hopefully it will do well on crows to 100 yards
I bought the same rifle last month. I had one box of Midas+ that shot a practice 2350 out of 2500 on an ARA Factory Class target. Unfortunately I only had that one box. Out of all the ammos I have tested beyond that SK Standard Plus has been the best.
Now that was surprising, but I guess, " the proof's in the pudding", as the old ( shortened ) saying goes.
Looking forward to watching the 'shoot off' of the Top Three.
Finally is right Buffalo.....I've been waiting for this video....My Marlin model 60 shoots this ammo lights out.....But as you mentioned it's rimfire and with rimfire you get what you get.
Will be waiting for the 3 ammo shoot off.
Very similar groups to what my 457 MTR produced with same ammo. I do not mind trying different ammo as those that do not work out eventually get used up in the rimfire pistol. My best so far was with SK std plus with a 0.2" ten shot group from 50 yds. These lil rifles do have match chambers and seem to shoot best with tighter tolerance fodder. Nice series and thanks for posting.
Very very close to the results I get from my MTR.
On any given day one SK might out shot what I thought was my best SK
Lapua Center X is hard to beat most of the time.
But the best I've seen was an ammo I'd never heard of until my brother got me a box.
RWS R50 SC = (Short Chamber)
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed watching a good old boy do I honest review!👍
Can't wait to see what you do with that rifle next!
I think it's about as good as it gets for the money, but I couldn't resist tuning it up a little more.
Good luck and thanks again
Loved the video as always Buffalo. Back in the 70's, I had an old BSA 22, with open sights, before scope attachments were standard. It never dawned on me to test different ammos. I just bought anything that I could get, usually Eley subsonic, and put any misses down to my ineptitude. I loved that old gun for rabbits, and once shot a rabbit through the head from 180 yards, while sitting astride a wobbly gate with a bag of rabbits swinging about on my back. I just hung over him a good bit, "that's a technical term", while wobbling about, and drilled him through the head. The unluckiest rabbit that ever lived. I still often feel guilty about that one. Poor unlucky little soul. However it was farm pest control. We killed hundreds of rabbits, the place was moving.
I'll be waiting to see the big shoot off. I shot Winchester and Hornady but I do have some cci. I haven't shot yet. But this was a great series. After yer done ill be waiting for something like this with you Savage b22 precision mag. Love this stuff thanks Buffalo.
My 457 Varmint also likes SK Standard Plus the best. I have tried Wolf Match Extra, Wolf Match Target, CCI Standard Velocity, Federal target Match (325 bulk pack) and Eley Pistol Match. Great video! I’m surprised how comparable our two 457’s are. Thank you for sharing your data and I look forward to your next 457 video.
that's interesting that those didn't shoot any better than that, however you do have a lot of really good groups, can't wait to see who the winner is.
Ive had certain lot # of sk std plus shoot phenomenal, and other lot # shoot like junk. Its like participating in a ammo lottery. Thanks for the video!
I have CZ 457 Thumbhole and I have same results as u. So far the best .22 lr ammo I have shot is SK Rifle Match. It gave 8,6 mm group from 50m.
Thank you for conducting this test I have also been looking into buying a CZ target rifle myself and I am very interested in these results that you've been doing
I agree, conditioning the bore does do wonders before shooting for record.
I have a brick of the older CCISV , dark blue box , it shoots well in my Smith & Wesson model 41 pistol . The 41 also likes SK Pistol Match.
My uncle has a CZ 452 left hand and he uses the CCI standard velocity 40 grain lead round nose 1070 fps omg he can put bullets in the same hole 50 yards
The groups were good being non target stuff. The potential of the rifle is what vi like. I just looked at a varmint version just like that one. Think I'm gonna pick it up.
You have done it again. I find that what you have is a change. I can give you Doris the cheese vet that you have. The CCI test is not all that important. at least to the long run to me. It does for the validation of the test. But not in the long run of things. Thanks for the information!
Nice rifle
👍, Now for the finals ❗
Great video, Great shooting. The only other ammunition I wish that you had tested would be federal black 38 grain and 40 grain. I found that shoots very consistent in all my 22 s. And my buddies also
I have really enjoyed this test and I will be sure to watch the final. Most rifles seem to like SK ammo actually. =)
Thanks for doing this! I was one of those pulling for CCI SV, sad to see it place last in all the ammo tested. Those 500 rnds. of CCI are selling for 100.00 around here, when you can find them.
right before all the crazy started, i bought a case (5000rds) for $249 with a $50 rebate, making my net cost $199.
CCI has been selling it directly the last couple of days for $40 a brick
Great series, lots of info. to process. can't speak for all your viewers but CCI standard is like a good base line for small game hunter looking for solid reliable accurate ammo at reasonable prices. < than 1" groups at 50 yrds or less is a high percentage shot at game
Buffalo, I shoot a CZ 457 Varmint with a Boyd's AT One stock. My CZ favors the Lapua Center X ammo. It even shoots it better than the more expensive Lapua Midas+. Give it a try if you can find it.
Once the sd stayed similar you started getting a good group. I heard after so many rounds the rifle will start liking whatever ammo. Been told dont go from plated to lead without shooting a couple mags threw before looking for groups .
Great video. My CZ 457 also loves SK ammo and doesn't shoot cci so good either.