60 Joints All Have To Fit At Once | Engels Coach Shop
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- These final steps are making sure all 60 joints in these wheels are correct, so when the tire is set, all 60 joints are tight. These Holt logging wheels are more challenging than most wheels, but they're coming together nicely. Thanks for coming along!
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This is what CZcams is for.
One of the best feelings in the world, is building something, and feeling proud of it. I hope you are feeling this as the work is fantastic.
Your detailed explanation of each piece with each minor adjustment reminds me so much of other devices. I don't know if you have an engineering degree but you talk like a mechanical engineer. My uncle designed bridges and drew the plans for them. His brother was a foundry supervisor and knew everything about industrial metal work. My dad was a supervisor at U.S. Steel. Their uncle was a civil engineer for the railroad. Together, they could tell you anything you wanted to know about construction using metal. Your details remind me so much of the way they used to explain things to me when I was a kid. Maybe that's why your videos are so fascinating to watch. Thanks!
This is called highly skilled and backed with many years experience. You don't learn this type of work from a manual, you live it.
You really have to admire the technology developed for these big wheels as well as the small ones.. we are so blinded by modern technology slickness that i don't think many can appreciate the old ways and how beautiful they are. Not to mention how Mr Engels skills and talents come to bare with building these marvelous wheels ..very impressive work ..
Undoubtedly, definitely, this is a unique masterpiece of arts and engineering. Thanks
Putting that tire on and getting that thing out the door...🚪
That's going to be a real treat!🍦
I wonder how many people he is going to need to help with the tire
I imagine the tire's going to be installed _outside_ (like the borax wagon wheels.
@@jimurrata6785for sure. No other way.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who watches you and is amazed at the craftsmanship of your work. It blows my mind how easy you make it look. I enjoy you giving use a history lesson on how things where made back in the day and how you do things the same way as the craft men of over a century and a half are more. Just amazing. Thank you for you videos and your lessons
Thats a truly colossal job.
The small adjustments show up clearly on the video. NICELY FILMED !
*- Thank you for saying so well what I was thinking.*
*- Dave's deft explanations helped us all to grasp how difficult and complex this job is.*
Simply amazing!
Let's hope, there will be women or men beeing able, to do a job like this in 50 years!
I fear, beeing also in my 60s now, there will be so many skills lost and always wonder, how we can hand the torch of true craftsmanship over to a younger generation.
Never knew building a wheel could be so interesting to watch.
This 10 ft. wheel is truly a magnified version of a wagon wheel. You have a big job yet to get these tires set. and I assume you still have another hub and bunch of wood to put together. and will you be able to perform the heating and mating or setting, let alone the moving and where to put this wheel or ship it. But I'm proud you don't get ahead of the deal and try to explain all that you just explain what is the problem for this week. Thanks Dave for your courageous spirit.
Next to that enormous wheel, you like a scene from Land of the Giants!
Your videos have a calming effect for me in this insane world. Thank you for that brother 👍
And when this one is finished you get to do it all over again. That should keep you busy right up to Thanksgiving!
The second one is going to go faster due to the lessons learned from the first one.
Or beyond
What incredible craftsmanship. Thank you.
One man, working carefully, accomplishes huge job. Well done.
Looking forward to seeing the tire put on.
I just wonder how many people exist in the world that possess this gentleman's level of knowledge and skill.
Never a hint of maybe, an absolute craftsman.
That fine dance between allowing it to go in (fit) keeping the whole wheel tight and round, and all the faces meeting flush. That's a fine act!
Being a wheelwright is more of an art.
Looking fine! It's no longer just a wheel... Rather it has become a work of art.
No surprise to me that everything stayed aligned without the clamps.
You're a genuine, true craftsman.
After working with wood in many forms through my life, i know the accuracy and experience required to get so many joints lined up.
I can't think of anyone else who would begin to come close.
I have had a hand in building a wheel in the early 90s when Phil from the UK tv program Time Team came to the college i was attending during my apprenticeship and i remember the difficulties we had getting everything right, even as pretty experienced machinists!
The college was excellent, it taught many "old" skills like wood turning, blacksmithing, upholstery etc.
I was attending to further my turning and veneering/marquetry.
A pleasure to watch your progress and learn from your experience.
Thanks for sharing!
Two cuts plus two cuts plus three cuts. Yup! Six cuts! lol
Well dave all the problems you have sorted out on this wheel wiil make the next one a bit easier.
Great to see the wheel in its nearly finished state 👍👍
This was magical, I enjoyed it so much, greetings from Serbia!
I too am impressed by the way the wheel aligned, and also by your craftsmanship in building this monster wheel. Well done sir!
Ah, Yes! The famous cliffhanger ending! You know we’d all be back anyway, Dave! Thanks for sharing your expertise. 😊
That is a master's work! To see it turn for the first time. I love watching you work and how you work things out. I learn a lot from your techniques of hand working and your thought process.....................
Looks to me that these two wheels are the biggest wheel’s made since the 1800’s.👍
You are wonderful craftsman and a excellent teacher. Thanks for sharing your talents with us.
Hey Dave, just HAD to watch this episode again.
I know, I'm confident your got it all lined up, but as you so rightly point out - you gotta take your time and make double sure everything is true and lined up !!
Yeah, me too.
I watched and "followed along", but what is readily apparent is all the year's of your experience cannot be easily transferred, even in an exceptional video! One must make their own firewood! Thanks for making the superb videos and taking the time to explain your process, even though patience is inexplicable.
Man that wheel is just beautiful. I can only imagine what it will look like after you get the bolts in, the iron on, and coat it in linseed oil. Wow that's gonna be gorgeous
The suspense! You left it as a cliffhanger... Will the tire fit? Can't wait for the next episode! 💖🌞🌵😷
With the steel wheel being oversized, and the precision build of the wood wheel; he controls the final diameter almost exactly.
@@JF-fx2qv, awww SPOILER ALERT! No seriously... I'm sure he'll make it perfectly. But, what I'm having a hard time waiting to know is will he have to cut out that bad weld and add another piece or will he just cut it out completely (as this tire was some bigger in circumference than the other one)? Guess we'll just have to wait. Sending lots of 💖 from sunny 🌞 Arizona 🌵. Take care of yourselves 😷.
It really helps to know what your doing, don't it? It sort comes down to the last couple of joints and how they line up. You certainly nailed it. Can't wait to watch you place the tire.
Amazing is not a good description Dave I’m at a loss for words. You are the best.
who would have thought that wheelwrighting is heavy industry. brilliant video Dave, the complexity that you handle so simply on a wheel of this size is to be admired. I hope the owners and users of these beasts of wheels recognise and appreciate the effort skill and knowledge your abilities.
What a impressive wheel that is! Thank you for true entertainment via excellent craftsmanship!
Hi Dave. No doubt in everyones' mind things will be spot on for the tyre fitting. Many thanks from Nr Liverpool UK.
I feel it as a great privilege to be given such an insight to this discipline through the eyes of one with so much experience, (the 10000 hours thing) my warmest thanks to you. Paul, Johannesburg
Same as below, can't wait to see the vid of the tyre going onto these weels that are even bigger than the borax ones 🙂. Impressive skills!!
Leaving us with a cliffhanger.
Dave my head hurts from all the calculations you make to get the felloes in and aligned.
Hope the next wheel goes along faster from all you have learned from doing this one.
I was waiting for the bit where you removed the clamps. Thinking about it there should be nowhere for the fellies to move to but seeing it really was very pleasing. Great job.
Another absolutely fantastic example of a skilled professional at work. The contribution you make to the wheelrights craft is beyond compare Dave.
Stay safe and well.
The thing I’m looking forward to is getting the wheels out of the shop and to the client.
I'm just amazed speechless, Dave.
As my Dear Old Dad used to say, “It’ll do.” He was a fan of adequacy rather than perfection. The former is easier than the latter. Thank you for sharing. Wish you well.
Perfection is a tempting but impossible goal, of course. I prefer to aim for excellence, and sometimes that means not wasting resources on things that aren't worth it, so adequacy sounds like a great idea for everyday work.
The old Carpenter's rule of "Measure twice! cut once" with Dave that's measure 6 times and cut once! with that many joints. and hole alignment and angle. patience it the norm. thanks for sharing ECF
That is one enormous wheel!
Love your work. I built a cannon about 23 years ago. Not functional just a replica. I am in the process of restoring it. Your videos help a lot.
What a very interesting process, I couldn’t take my eyes off it. Another lesson in patience and application of skill, knowledge and IQ.
I never lost sight of the fact you had 60 joints to calculate and join. Your experience paid dividends on this project. 🙂 👍👍👍
Another lesson in applied mathematics, Dave. Lots of fractions but certainly a lot of Fingerspitzengefühl, as your German ancestors would have said.
All your previous experiences are making this project looks somewhat simple. Well done.
Excellent craftsmanship and attention to detail, I'm impressed with the final finessing to achieve an accurate fit.👍😏🇬🇧
What a cruel cliffhanger lol i love it and have little doubt your wheel is within 1" of your projected tire circumference
What an accomplishment! I am impressed. You are truly a craftsman.
I'm awestruck as usual
When you started this, I had been trying to figure out what in the world needed a wheel that big. Tonight I saw that it was a Holt Logging wheel, or what some call a Michigan Logging Wheel. Was not until I found a post card from 1939 showing a Michigan logging wheel, and understood that it was operated by looping a chain under the logs, then winching them up enough to hang free of the ground, allowing the horse team to pull the load without dragging. So when you think about a log that is 50 to 60 feet long, and say 40 inches in circumference yes you need a wheel that big to carry the load, other wise you have to drag it which still requires a draft horse to pull such a load.
Dave, amazing wheels. Any possibility of seeing these in action in a future video? Would love to to see them in work.
I’d like to see them at work
I think they are for a museum not for a working piece of equipment.
Thank you so much taking on this project! This project really helps understanding the process of making the buggy and wagon wheels. It's like seeing it under a magnifying glass. I'm really glad for this opportunity and can't wait to see this tire go on. I forget to think in 3D, how each felloe can tilt along so many axis and has to be controlled.
Endeavor to persevere...very, very cool!
The episode in which Dave the crazily skilled craftsman becomes Dave the demigod. ❤
I, too, am impressed! Not many people know what you do about the engineering and structural dynamics of wheels and such.
I'm impressed that you not only know and understand all that, but you also know how to apply that knowledge and make it work!
Well done, Dave!!
All that knowledge is beyond me, but I love your explanations and watching you apply stuff I'll never understand! I never knew making wheels was so involved.
What a cliffhanger. That's a work of art
Watching you build these mammoth wheels helps me so much with normal sized wheels. Thanks so much.
My gosh. I mowed my yard today
Absolutely brilliant workmanship as for the gaps that is what I call "coming from experience" which you have loads of. As for the 2+2+3 equaling 6 at about 11:40 well I will leave that up to you🤣🤣🤣
I'm always in awe of your work
fantastic love watching you out work and the wheel you are doing now is amazing the tyre is going to be wow to watch
Fantastic, I hope at some point after your finished we get to see it rigged up with team and a log slung under it! Really fantastic work.
Dave,
I doubt that the original manufacturer was as concerned about the fit-up as you are. Your craftsmanship is exceptional. All the best.
The skills that you demonstrate, describe craftsman. It's amazing how much knowledge the old Wheel Wright's had to have to accomplish what they did on such a large wheel. And they had far fewer power tools to help them. I'm curious; did more than one man work on such a large wheel and how long would such a project take? Thanks again Dave, for what you do.
It all depended on the shop. When Holt originally produced these wheels there was undoubtedly an assembly line approach. And their plant would have been full of liine shaft driven power tools. At the time these wheels were produced machine cut millwork was readily available in lumber yards. Even intricate wood window sashes were 95% machine made.
But when it came to field repairs it was likely done by one man with help as needed. Just like logging outfits today, there is usually a maintenance team that takes care of equipment maintenance and repair. For sure at that time the team would include a man skilled in the wheel wright trades.
@@truracer20Thank you.
WATCHed in Ohio as Rock Mill Ohios oldest grain mil the wheel was mounted on core constructed from 4 N Hamp tree cores..and slowly but surely each piece was woodenly tapped into place.. within 3 hours the entire wheel IN location was finished.. and it ran well!
Flippin' heck ...!! Incredible ...
I saw the start video, but missed everything since ... WOW!
There is a Playlist if you want to see the rest.
Beautiful wheel that demonstrates your ability to think 3 dimensionally ~ not many people have this 3D visualisation. As an architect, I'd say after a 45-year career, less than 5% of architects and draftspersons (mybe less than 2%) have the ability to think 3 dimensionally. Kudos
This is what happens when you let kids play with Tinker Toys :D
Impressively accurate over all those parts!
*- Dave, your deft explanations about the complex engineering physics at play with this and other wheel designs {the part about how the "dish would increase on other type wheels, for example} brought great insight to me.*
*- Without the compression "give" of wood, aligning wheels would be impossible.*
*- Imagine the constant "clattering" sound from all of of the joints, and slop and wheel weakness, that would be inherent if rigid plastic or metal were used!*
So I've been sitting here thinking those splines look awfully dang thin to keep things lined up. Then I remind myself of much smaller bits of wood messing up alignments on my projects - so you should be good. And you were! :^)
i have watched this build from the beginning. my main thought is how you move it--those are some BIG wheels.
I wonder how heavy these are finished. Truly a master craftsman Sir!
PATIENCE begets PRECISION. 👍👏
I share your satisfaction in your progress thus far. Beautiful work on a large scale. Just subscribed. Thanks.
I can hardly wait for mounting the tire. The fire for heating that is going to be like Mt. St. Helens erupting all over again.
That is very impressive and high precision work.
That is a big wheel!!
Mind Boggling.
Your work was highlighted in Patrick Sullivan’s pyramid video!,
This series has been a great learning experience, love it!!!!!
Is it possible that I could have a link please?
What a magnificent job! I understand why you prefer to use the flat shims, and how they work, but they look so delicate compared to the massive wheels!
Well the splines are hardwood with long grain orientation so they’re pretty tough in the absence of any dynamic loading, and they’re mainly for alignment until the tire is installed and shrinks to final size taking care of the alignment issue with all the radial force being applied tightening the joints between fellies. The craftsmanship here is extraordinary and its perpetuation is so important.
Do you ever teach anyone so your art is not lost ? You do such a wonderful job 👏
That’s the point of this video library Dave has put together.
Excellent idea! That's precisely what the videos are for. Dave's library includes videos detailing every step and every facet of building and restoring horse-drawn vehicles, from blacksmithing to sewing. Unfortunately, few people have the patience, dedication and craftsmanship to do everything properly, so apprentices are extremely rare.
Such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman at work. Thank you for sharing
Oh the suspense! I was waiting to see the giant get sanded. I better tune in next time!
That looks to have come together just fine even with the size and angled spoke challenges.
I think you should be proud of yourself. Good job!
Coming together nicely, indeed, but lurking in the background is another hub and another set of spokes. The second wheel will lack the mental stimulation of the first wheel and just be hard work, but Dave will get it done.
Great cliffhanger!!
Wow that is amazing all work put into this big wheel !
Thanks for sharing.....I never get tired of watching your videos.....very educational and entertaining
Wow, just wow. Thank you sir.
You are an amazing craftsman.
so much going on .Right from the start this has been a big job! The time of the traveller draws near! The heating and manouevering of the tyre is going to be another conudrum!