The ANALOG Gaming Keypad - Razer Tartarus Pro Review
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- The Razer Tartarus Pro is an evolution to one of the best gaming keypads around by adding analog optical switches. These Razer black switches with adjustable actuation points allow for an amazing number of keypad macros from a compact keyboard.
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‘Razer’ and ‘competitive prices’ cant be used in the same sentence
Usually agreed, but their peripherals are competitive in price with the rest of the gaming peripherals. The viper wireless with the dock at 150$ matches the GPW launch retail price which has gone down due to being out for half a year.
I think you might be confusing "competitive" with "inexpensive". For example the Huntsman TE is about the same price as the G PRO. Definitely not cheap but no Razer tax.
@@HardwareCanucks for a product that is basically 1/3 of a keyboard with a Dpad I think the argument could easily be made for overpriced or low value.
@@HardwareCanucks true
There is no 'razer tax', the mere premise of a 'razer tax' is pre-historic at this point.
Thank you Dmitri for making these videos! It's been more than one and a half decade since I had a desktop, and wathcing your videos in the past few years, along with Linus's, Luke's, Jay's and Paul's is what gave me the knowledge and motivation to finally build one completely on my own. I just ordered the parts yesterday and can't wait to start.
Keep doing what you're doing!
Greetings from Hungary!
TT
I’ve got the Tartarus v2 and I honestly couldn’t use a keyboard after having something this comfortable. Not sure it’s worth the upgrade but I’m very happy with the v2.
Dunno why I watch this when I literally have 7 dollars and chewing gum in my wallet
I don't even have a wallet
Lmao I think whether or not you have the money it’s just fun to watch these reviews
And a paper clip! Don't forget the paper clip..
I feel you bro
I only have the chewing gum, but I think it's 8 months old
When the switches have two actuation points it would make much more sense to use tactile switches instead of linear switches. Only then you can really feel a difference between the two actuation points.
Just like camera triggers. Just a light press and the camera starts the autofocus. You press harder, feel a physical bump, and the camera takes the picture.
That works really well even though those triggers have only a travel distance of about a millimeter maximum. But it wouldn't work at all without that tactile feeling.
Doesn't really matter since the thumbstick wears out in like a month. Just check your local used electronics marketplace and there's a lot of these things with broken thumbstick and unresponsive keys.
I agree
Ironically only entry level cameras use two stage shutter buttons with a noticeable click. High end cameras just have squishy buttons and you have to muscle memory your way to knowing where the dual actuation is. I think it's stupid but it's also because in higher end photo work we normally use back button AF anyway so don't want the shutter having a click in the middle. I really wish they used an analogue shutter release that you could set to adjust your burst rate dynamically, the harder you push the faster the fps. My camera shoots up to 30fps in photos and it would be nice to gently push it for 1fps or fully depress for 30, and everything in between. Sorry for the tangent
I am so much addicted to watching Chris Pratt making tech videos.
Lol
Thanks you so much Dmitry. ❤️
Ankit Raj hehe
He looks like the fatrat (music artist)
Phris Crap
It's a shame they didn't give us an analog joystick.
Thats what literally everyone wants. So many people have asked for an analog joystick. Razer cant be so blind to this. Im sure they have seen the reviews.
@@ATGbandit and there's definitely a market for it: if you check Azeron's website you have to pay 285€ for priority right now, unless ofc you want to wait up to 180 days. That's just crazy and I really regret not picking one up when I had the chance.
Azeron = analog joystick, takes some getting used to but is amazing as long as RGB isn't your primary priority.
I've heard of the azeron. It looks amazing but I'd prefer a big brand company to make something like that so if I have problems I can return it. Or have it replaced. I don't want to wait months to get one. Have it break. And then be out of luck or have to wait a very long time for a replacement.
Again thats fucking bull shit I wanted them to make one with an analog like the azeron keypad but they always all out so I wanted a razer one but no analog what the fuck it will make gaming easier so u dont need 3 fingers to move just one
I really hope more brands starts making keypads
Never heard of "Wooting", but cool, will check them out
Knowing how Optical switches function to detect analogue input, I'm surprised that the OEM for these switches, a little-known Chinese company called Dongguan Mingjian, managed to integrate analogue functionality into their design. See, previously, Wooting's switch OEM, another Chinese company called Adomax, achieved analogue sensing in their optical switches through a very complicated reflecting lens system that bounced a light beam two times in such a way as to allow varying amounts of light to reach the sensor as u pressed the keys higher or lower. Mingjian's design is a simple one-way beam of light that simply gets blocked or unblocked as the key is pressed past the actuation point. That they somehow managed to make this far simpler mechanism work in an analogue way is quite amazing from a design standpoint.
I love synapse
Especially when it forgets my chroma settings
Or when the lights turn on when the pc is on sleep mode
Or when the software refuses to open
I just want to know why it needs 5 instances of itself talking to everything that has ever connected to localhost... also... It would be nice if the RGB on my Deathadder elite would stop when I shut the computer down.. Or why it randomly log's itself out of synapse >.
Loved this review. Honest, informative and no filler commentary.
Saw analog and got so excited they finally changed the d-pad to an analog stick...I was wrong...and sad now
RIP Logitech G13, right?
@@TheSmallChap... and saitek PZ31a
@@Latsu15 the only appeal of keypads because of the WASD fingers being able to be free with a joystick. This can still be done with this iPad but it's still not a joystick like the azeron style.
@@Latsu15 the only appeal for competitive are games that dont require WASD like League of legends. This thing is a game changer in League being able to have all this keybinds on the fly. F1-f5 keys are hard to reach
@@Latsu15 You're thumb gets 8 different inputs to use from the pad and one from the rest. Now, WASD takes away the added benefit of four of those.
Analogue removes a lot of versatility in terms of the number of inputs from the thumb (the rest button becomes less useful too), but you do get much better movement.
The best would probably be an analogue stick with an optional plastic guide for those who don't want to use the stick for movement.
I wish they make this for right hand. This half-keypad is more useful for productivity than gaming.
I'm currently use the Nostromo backward with my right hand for drawing's custom keyboard because I draw with my left hand.
As a cripple that uses a Naga + Stinkyboard to game this would be a dream come true...they make left-handed nagas but not right handed versions of this. I'd finally be able to play Street Fighter/Tekken as fighting games are only thing I can't enjoy playing.
I'm right handed, but I would love to just have one for each hand and just get rid of a standard keyboard. I already have a split keyboard, the Kinesis Freestyle Edge gaming keyboard, which is pretty great. But I just think thumbs are just so under-utilized by PC peripherals. Having used a Razer Orbweaver with my left hand for 5+ years now, that's all I really want. Two Orbweavers connected by a cord in the middle. There are other split keyboards like the Ergodox which do have more modifier thumb keys, but the Orbweaver with its directional pad and now this scroll wheel add so much more functionality. Razer is silly not to recognize that right-handed users would also purchase these products designed for left-handed use.
Razer : we made our keypad analog guys !
Everyone : oh you finally ditched the camouflaged dpad ?
Razer : look at all those analog keys
Everyone : *visible anger*
I use this baby as I have space issues as I game on a laptop. I do really like it with a couple of caveats.
1) yes the actuation points seem to close even when set as far apart as possible but if you choose key binds that are more synergistic it will really shine. Like one I set up with the stop staring a knee slide and the bottom to trigger a melee attack. It’s hard to hold the key at a higher activation so I recommend setting up combos that work together or just ignore that function.
2) the keys are susceptible to accidental triggering so I moved the first actuation down a bit to save on any fat finger typing issues
3) hand/palm rest is actually kind of slippery and I found that I kept moving around so I put a small strip of moleskin (material used to cover areas of a shoe that is rubbing) on the palm rest and it worked wonders.
4) yes the profiles can be a pain to work with. I currently have 5 set up ( destiny 2, Witcher 3, no man’s sky, Control, Homeworld remastered) so I have a small cheat sheet showing with profile is which so I can manually select. The synapse 3 is still kinda suspect and tends to forget its profiles.
5) setting up the key bindings can take time. I try to mirror other profiles to reduce constant muscle memory changes.
6) price is quite high..specially in Cdn$ but after a couple hundred hours with it I am loathe to go back to the laptop keyboard only.
no built in memory for $129, i think i'll pass
Logitech G13 is so much better, to bad they stopped making it and it now costs $150 instead of the $70 it was on Amazon at one point.
Many times peripherals that needed software then to screw up because of their software bugs
it's not like your switching between random pcs all the time so it doesn't matter wht matters is the price which is pretty shitty compared to the v2
i dont want razer botnet synapse up while im doing things, thats why
@@Vorm17 Nah it is not
Imagine not having hardware profiles in 2019
I mean, it doesn't matter much as Synapse is needed anyway
Cpt. Buli but synapse sucks, so it’d be nice to be able to just make your profiles on synapse and then delete it instead of constantly having it running all the time
@@squidwardstesticles5914 what do you have 3gb of ram?
Copernicus1n it’s not about the performance hit, it’s just because I don’t want to be forced to have a bunch of bloatware running all the time when it isn’t necessary, plus it’s nice to be able to use it on more than one computer without re-downloading synapse and making the profiles again
@@squidwardstesticles5914 I just installed it on a linear USB that I keep plugged in to my black widow elite
I like how he constantly says "it's the same" (as the older model) yet the price is way higher.
I have a feeling Razer is using PBT keycaps instead of their ABS one
It looks the same as the original
It’s worse than orbweaver which i got for 75$ and i paid full price for this 130$. thumbad is very badly positioned for midsize hand (18,5/11), keys stutter or keeps spamming after you don’t touch it, not ergonomic at all, no onboard memory, no click feels. Who haven’t tried orbweaver, they don’t know how bad this is.
Cristi Baltoi orbweaver is superior in regard to customization and mechanical response. fails cosmetically, but some actually like the bulky retro look it has
I've been waiting for this for a long time. I've been talking about needing analogue switches forever. Now mouse and keyboard controls are perfect.
Have mine almost two years now ... No problems so far and still looks new (minus some dust) even though I constantly game on it.
“No profiles can be saved to it” okay I’m out. My pc has devolved into an rgb nightmare because I refuse to run bloatware.
rainbow puke you mean?
That's why I like Logitech peripherals. I haven't even installed their software on my fresh Windows installation, yet my mouse and headset are still on my custom profiles.
Same thing with the RGB on my Wraith Prism cooler. Case fans are controlled by a dumb controller wired into the reset button.
Winners don't use RGB.
I’d hardly call macro software bloatware, but ok my dude
That's why I switched to the Logitech G13
Sooooo does someone have a patent on an ANALOG thumb stick or something??? wtf
They probably would need atleast a new mold or retool some stuff which would increase production cost. Razer is probably not interested investing too much money into such a rather niche product compared to their more mainstream stuff.
ikr
I'd rather they just have that thumbpad on their regular keyboards to be honest, like below the spacebar.
No, but if you want it there is Azeron
@@plasmaoctopus1728 sounds silly lol!
Anyways just go buy the Tac Pro If you want analog stick.
I have the Tartarus V2 and I love it. Love the wheel over the extra buttons on the other version, plus like the feel of those switches. Probably not worth the upgrade if you have the V2.
Upgraded from the V2, kind of missed the click at first but the more I use it the more I am enjoying it. It takes less "force" to press the keys down over the V2. Really wish they would update the orbweaver...but this will do for now.
Would of been good if it had 360 degree movement like azeron instead of 8 way directional pad.
I feel like tech CZcams’s make the sneakiest product shoutouts
Great review. Thank you! Are you going to do a full review of the Viper Ultimate?
Thanks! This is the best guide on youtube for the tartarus
I'm pretty sure the reason why they don't have an analog stick on the Razer Tartarus Pro and V2 is so you can set it to different keys or functions but it would still be nice to have an interchangeable analog stick.
Steams controller config has been able to set analog stick directions as different keys for a looong time now. Razer is just dumb af.
Still no Orbweaver v2 with the glue issues fixed? Shame, that's all I want.
First thing to do is move the space bar from 20 to the profile switcher for me, just way more comfortable then I made 20 a "hold to swap maps" for macros galore. Tartarus is the best thing ever because of this lol
I liked the paddle spacebar from previous versions also previous versions had an adjustable wristrest that was sliding so you could get it just right instead of only 2 positions.
I feel the orbweaver is better value for the money
Thumbstick needs to be an analog stick.
Yeah its a goddamn thumbstick fsol
@@ifalm4274 Its not analog. Its digital. Fsol
Comment that on their ig so they can listen
Yes, please!!!
The 4 cheap ass two point micro switches of Razer's thumbstick are so cheap and uncommon on today's gaming gears,I had to order a bag of them directly from Shenzhen(which is about 0.05 USD per.Since obviously Razer can't afford to use the 0.1 USD 20M switches on the crucial part of a 199 USD gear) to repalce/solder them myself after my orbweaver chroma's thumbstick gives up after 13 months.I don't care if you using mechanical switches or god dam NASA switches for the keypads,If the thumbstick give up,that's the point?Shame on Razer to intentionally designed a weak point for the gears that were advertised on having better durability because of the use of mechanical switches on the keypad.
I got out razer because synapse failure drove me nuts
Which Synapse version did you use and when ?!
@@overgamer4162 likely was 2.0 now I'm roccat an steelseries. both do direct device saves with account syncs constantly
@@lordvolkharktheorginal now Synapse 3 is almost completely error-free, and all such programs beat with functionality and extension. My friend buy Logitech mouse week ago, download GHub and he say "OMG, This program is one big disaster i hate This. Synapse 3 is 3000 times better!"
@@overgamer4162 so far after 3 years of dealing with razer productions I've not missed the near constant information syncing (forced otherwise the device has malfunctions) it was that not updates or the camera failure the had with lie of omission that would do it's on back ground removal from "razer" software. to honest I didn't have to download the programming for my mouse it function great steel series programming only used to bring down sensitive on some games doesn't run in the background or need network access constantly. roccats never had it's programming for the keyboard its been amazing so I can't see a return if even this review it's saying the programming doesn't save on system an needs to run so sorry not a gain.
thank you for the conversation none the less this is a wonderful community
@@lordvolkharktheorginal never ever my Razer product was broken. My Razer Lancehead TE have 3 years old and still looks like new. This is one of many resons why I like Razer. Do you have any questions then go ahead 😅 Also thank you for this conversation.
I have the Tartarus v2 and I still love it so I'll stick with that thanks.
thanks for the review! will this remember key actuation depth settings if you uninstall synapse?
Would someone please compete with Razer in gaming keypads? Please?
check out AZERON
Logitech has one but its not very good.
I use a GeForce it’s really good
Reminds me of the Belkin Nostromo N52 15 Years ago. I bought one at this time.
Same. Very little changed it seems.
It's just a slightly more updated version of it yes. I started with the N52 and have never gone back to WASD. It's much more intuitive for me. The Tartarus is very good, but honestly nothing much has changed since N52...other than more keys on the pad. An analog stick instead of D pad would be great though.
Have you reviewed the SwiftPoint Z mouse? That has fully adjustable actuation points on the buttons but gives adjustable feedback via vibration when you hit them.
It actually works really well.
im not gonna purchase it but the double actuation design absolutely blew my mind omg thats so fackinnnnnng cooooool
Too bad logitech stop with the g13. If only they make an upgrade of the g13 it could be a competitor to razer gameboard
g4r15 so true, and the g13 layout is also compatible with either side usage which is great. And thus widens the market range, since some designers and digital illustrators (especially the one who are left handed) could make use of its macro ability.
+1 a G13 with mech keys is all we want.
I had paid about the same price for my Wooting One -- which is a tenkeyless keyboard with analogue controls, adjustable actuation point and double-action key switches ... and that one has built-in memory.
And with wooting you have more controls over the analog features
Yup so agree
Yeah, but that's also a keyboard, which gives you quick access to fewer keys and is an ergonomic mess.
We could really do with a full analogue joystick like we get on a ps4/Xbox controller, means we could move with just a thumb rather then using 4 fingers leaving them open for macros.
I have one and love it, however I'd love it more if the keys were labled to mirror a normal keyboard.
Once they make this thing with internal memory, and wireless, it will be a huge game changer! Love the vid
and an analog stick
I'll jump on a wireless option for my couch gaming. Onboard keymap storage wouldn't be unappreciated, but I don't mind running Synapse 3 to handle all of my devices.
I still own and love my G13, thank you very much :)
Same here ... been using it for 8 years and I don't see why I would change.
@@Mr_Spock512 yeah me too probably around that same time as well, it works perfectly. :)
Same same duct tape and all still going strong 😅
@@somemadcaaant poor thing xD mine is in one piece :D
They WOULD release this month's after I bought an orbweaver lol. Only passed on the v2 because of the "mecha-membrane" keys.. love the orbweaver though
As you were talking I was thinking exactly that. That it should be possible to set the secondary activation on bottoming out.
I hope that the release of this Razer Tartarus Pro will inspire Logitech to get off their butts and finally re-release the Logitech G13 keyboard. Now that was and is an amazing keyboard for PC gaming. I still use it today for every PC game. Thumb to move and 4 fingers for abilities... WASD does not make sense after you use a macro keyboard with a joystick. If Logitech remakes the G13 with newer buttons and full RGB I think it would be a home run.
They seem to be too busy rehashing* their existing products.
*a.k.a. not really making significantly better or different
I do like their Pro keyboard. I like the clean sleek look of it, but I do agree other than basic visual changes and the RGB keys, they are really slacking. I think they put too much money into the Mouse and charging mouse pad... which is so expensive it did so poorly. Who knows... just going to cross fingers for a G13 since mine is starting to show it's age and the joystick is getting stuck. It is starting to affect my gaming and in turn my videos lolol.
I love my G13. I've had it about 10 years and it's rock solid. Sad to hear it's been discontinued as it's the only replacement I'd want.
@@donkeysunited oh I feel that completely I found out a few months ago and was shocked. I have had 2 over the years. Got my first one to play WoW Wrath of the Lich King. There was no going back to normal keyboards after it lol. Now I try my best to use it very carefully lolol. I even send out tweets to logitech from time to time asking them to bring it back.
@@FealtyGaming I remember using Bartender to mimic the G13 layout onscreen in WoW. Good times :) Now I won't play any game until I have set up the G13. As you say, I better look after it. It has served me incredibly well.
I've had my Razer nostromo for around 8 years now still going strong.
It's worn so much the caps are white :D I may need to pick one of these up soon.
I'll do you one better. I still use the old Belkin Nostromo's, the ones made before Razer bought it. I bought 6 of them when Belkin said that they weren't going to make them anymore and i got scared because i can't game without them...lol
A common issue with the V2 was the thumb D-Pad failing, so I'm surprised you didn't address that in this review.
Great review, but honestly ill just wait for Orbweaver v2/pro
regardless of the brand, when some1 makes a good left handed pad, i will buy it.
Tim Souza Azeron makes a left handed pad
brachus12 unfortunately, it's not spread evenly worldwide so it's not getting into consideration.
Gamesir has a great one with cherry switches and same layout as an actual keyboard so it's natural to use. Basically a half keyboard. Mine comes in two days.
YummierMussel but only usable comfortably with your left hand 🤷♂️
When will there be a Tartarus with a real Analog Joystick. This will have the same high faliure probleme like me V2 because they use micro mouse switches for something it should not be used for.
No one wants analogic stick, ok let me correct it, no one smart and competitive. Go buy the G13.
you could have o-rings and when you bottom out on the o-ring you could push harder and it would activate the secondary action
V2 was originally Belkin Nostromo n52te. I had one, but software support ended a long time ago and it don't work beyond win7.
Over 100 dollars and they didnt include onboard memory? I'll hold off for now. Kind of a bummer.
same here as soon as he mentioned the price I was like no thanks, I do have the old v2 and i do love it and not to mention cheaper
I can already feel my thumb strains just by looking at that over-reaching space button.
agree
Time to Review the Huntsman TE and the Viper Ultimate guys! Still W8ing!
Was thinking about buying a keypad for gaming and makros, but this is 4 years old and still not wireless, waiting for one to hopefully come in the future so i can finally buy one
I've owned the orbweaver for 5 years now. It seems that the construction and quality of this product pales in comparison. The fact you have way more adjustability in the orbweaver is huge.
Love my Orbweaver! I never understood removing a key just to incorporate a scroll wheel that isn't all that good anyway. Now if they put something like the weighted scroll wheel of a Logitech G502 that actually had some discernible tactile stops or could be unlocked for free spinning as well as incorporating some sort of on board hardware memory for storing profiles on the device, then I might consider upgrading. But as far as I'm concerned the entire Tatarus series is a downgrade from my 5 year old Orbweaver for these reasons and as you stated the adjust-ability of it.
Disappointed in Razer, still no toaster.
I love my Nostromo that I've had since 2012.
Compared my n52 to my orbweaver, the memrane keys feels awkward. Other then that still a great keypad and still works fine.
The thing I like is I can move a lot of functions and modifiers to my thumb. It's way more comfortable and intuitive than trying to use my pinkie in MOBA's and MMO's. My ONLY complaint is not having a hot swappable mechanical switch option.
As an MMO player this thing looks amazing. If you have any clout with Razer though, at this price I’d really like a detachable cable.
20 keys * 2 actuation points * 8 profiles = 320 macro keys!!!🤯 Taran has entered the chat
Same exact thoughts.
Don't forget hypershift
He stated he didn't like these because their price per key is too expensive
Gabe54432 especially now that he has the Streamdeck from Elgato that basically has infinite macros
Qiaoyu Zhang 😂 lol
I want them to make one with onboard memory and a swappable thumstick to switch between direction pad and regular thumstick. If a company can make a cross between this and an xbox elite controller that would be perfect.
I loved my Razer Nostromo so much I wore the black paint off pretty much all of the keys and kept using it until complete failure (4 years of use). Bought a Razer Tartarus Pro and love it EVEN MORE, never used a better left hand KB, it's literally the only Razer product that I like (I sincerely hate their mice, never had one last long enough to justify the price) and I LOVE it. Getting used to primary v secondary actuation is very difficult initially, but it can be learned and I also can guarantee the whole '3.6mm' actuation is a lie, really wish I could set the secondary actuation to bottoming-out, but even still it's my dream keypad. If you're into left-hand keypads and you've got the cash I've yet to see a better one.
Great video as usual. I personally use keypads so I’ll be picking this one up.
Thanks for making this video, it wasn't 3 weeks ago that I was super annoyed with Razer's decision to not release a Tartarus V2 with mechanical switches, instant buy for me, even at it's high price!
i was waiting for a new orbweaver, but since the tartarus now got linear switches ill go for that. i told them to make the best keypad and that i didnt care about the price :D
Isn't there already a mechanical variation of the Tartarus V2? At the Amazon page for it, there's a Mechanical keyboard option that costs something like $129.
@@Abpcdkahsk yes the tartarus pro. it just came out
This almost as much as the huntsman, great product but can’t justify the price
A benefit of WASD is that your pink can crouch with L shift and your thumb can jump with Space. With the Tartarus, joystick is controlled with the thumb, so what do you guys remap jump and/or crouch to? I mean, Space can still be jump, but that would mean taking your thumb off the joystick which would be fatal in competitive FPS.
Thank you for a review that shows the product instead of your face the whole time. Too many reviews there of computer products where you only see the guy speaking and nothing of the product. Question to everybody out there: is there actually a gaming keypad with analog stick on the side? I would like it for driving and walking in every step of speed possible.
Still enjoying my G-13. :)
And me my two pz31a :)
Fuccccck I wish they were still available
$129 puts it at the same price as the Orbweaver without the the added adjust-ability for hand comfort.
Really hope they put this analog tech into their regular boards as well.
The layout of this thing looks exactly like the old Belkin Nostromo N52 Speedpad, but updated and with a 3x higher price tag. And I thought paying $45 for the Nostromo back in 2002 was expensive.
Honestly Razer’s price are pretty competitive now. They price their products the same as their competitors.
With the exception of the blade lineup, but I feel that’s justifiable given how well designed those laptops are
I hope manufacturer's realize that more people wants a low profile gaming laptop so Razer will have competition.
They still make these? Used to be a thing in early wow days.
only use i see for it is if you have a gaming laptop or want to minimize as much desk space as possible. It has its uses, but its very niche.
@@gangatalishis I use Nostromo with HOTAS when playing E:D and some other games. So it's easier to switch left hand from throttle to the pad instead of reaching to main keyboard.
@@gangatalishis You have never played old mmorpg it seems.
@@Pienimusta no but if you are talking about games lime WoW they have a mouse built specifically for that (naga I think)
I can see uses in Star Citizen. Unfortunately the Amazon link he provided to the UK is not available and with no restock date!
I still use the Razer Nostromo and it is still an amazing piece of tech. When it eventually dies I will be looking to get another one if they still exist by then.
They should have added dual layer tactile bumps to denote the primary and secondary function actuation. On the other hand (pun intended) It does seem very ergonomic and could make gaming easier regardless of the analog function.
Razer ... listening ? What you on man ?
The tatarus line is plagued with faulty d-pad switches. Their support is non existent at best, but mostly just insulting. The orbweaver would dissassemble itself after a year or so.. screws would become loose, and the double sided sticky tape keeping the rubber in place would break down and make a huge mess. Not to mention key coating that would wear off extremely quickly. Not even going to touch synapse v3. Are you a dev, and want to develop around some of the functionality that synapse provides, but need some clarification on function or feature ? A kind email to razer support will get you a canned 'go eff yourself' response. I have a pair of belkins n52te that have lasted longer than any of the razer rehashed garbage. Premium pricing for premium garbage.
nobiggeridiot Well yes but actually no
You sure you DID NOT throw your Orbweaver before it started to become loose?
I have my orb for 3 years and half, no loose screws or unglued pad, everything is fine. Stop using alcohol when cleaning it or try right handed.
Cristi Baltoi wait what do you use to clean it?
I've been waiting for a Logitech to remake the g13, but they might be too late.
I'd still buy a new G-13 over the Tartarus (and I have Razer mouse, keyboard, headset, mousepad....) - I just look at the shape of the Tartarus and think "no, that doesn't look right" plus it's 3 keys light. I play ArmA3, so the G-13 is fully loaded as it is, including the two buttons near the analog joystick. :) Fortunately my G-13 is still running like a champ!
I recently opened my G13 to clean it and replaced the joystick with one of my Logitech controller's analog joysticks. I understand, there's nothing like it.
@@jGRite I've heard a few people complain about the joystick, but I don't have any issues with it. Maybe my hand is just the perfect size for it, or something, but I control it fine with the edge of my thumb on top. :). Cool you were able to swap it out, though
if they can be used as numpad , will be a great addition to someone who work with numbers a lot plus enjoy gaming in betweem
So I understand the actuation points, but what about the release points like the Wooting keyboard's magnetic switches? Does this have the same capability to release the key as soon as it starts to travel upward?
Next razer product: 1 key keyboard
Key: F
Osu
They already have that actually, its a mechanical switch keychain.
Ducky already owns this market
129 dollars. Yeah "competitive" price point. It competes against Apple.
You may have missed the "pulled a Razer" reference at 5:42. 👀😂
You look like Kim Jong un from afar
@@HardwareCanucks It feels like buying it for the Name.
@@TheWunder that's my brother from another side of korea.
@@francismcraymond2646 the North?
Wish it had on board memory as Synapse isn't that reliable and it sucks trying to rush troubleshoot it when you are trying to get on for group play. Also with all the switch upgrades I can't believe they didn't have per switch lighting that can be tied to key use, like have it animate or change colors when you toggle a toggle macro.
If they released a wireless version of this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Tartarus is a biblical term, a place of suffering
Yes Dense Darkness to be exact.
Still wanting a joystick instead of a D-pad
I'm so into this thing, I got my first left hand keyboard many years ago from Belkin n52te - which was later bought by Razer and upgraded to Orbweaver with mechanical switches, but after a few years downgraded to the original Tartarus with less adjustments available and low quality switches. I think the Orbweaver Chroma is still the best, too bad, no longer available and stuck with Synapse 2.0.
hi , is it only usefull for gaming or can I work faster with this kind of tool?
2:05 "gay-pad" lmao
Dear Tech Lord, please make Logitech update my G13 I have been a good boy this year and no one seems to be making Keypads that are good. Amen
Look up the FFXIV Hori gamepad, pretty sure its an updated G13. hard to get right now but i think it has promise
I liked the Chanelle and the video go on bro
But is it suitable for PS4 or PC only?
I wish the indicator leds could also be color cuztomized to have fx an ALL GREEN LED setup going on
This man look like star lord from guardian of galaxy
anyone heard 'gaypad' on 2:05?
I heard gamepad
Caption says: gamepad
I think you’re just hearing what you want to hear...
I like how he is showing off all this razer gear and has is all on a corsair mat.
Double actuation keys sound like those from a car: you press/lift it and you roll down the window to your desired heght, press/lift it all the way down and the windows come up or down all the way automatically. Not that hard to get used to in our experience.