Have Spotify Genres Gone Too Far?

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • Every year there's a new viral genre unveiled in spotify wrapped, but are these real music genres or just some baloney??
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Komentáře • 81

  • @knockoffairpods7348
    @knockoffairpods7348 Před 7 měsíci +244

    i will still never forgive Spotify for making dream smp a genre

    • @blustre
      @blustre  Před 7 měsíci +45

      had to call out the dream fans

    • @faygrace824
      @faygrace824 Před 7 měsíci +34

      Literally. Got it once as my top genre. Don’t even listen/watch people in the dream smp, just British indie lol

    • @RedLordOfAlagadda
      @RedLordOfAlagadda Před 2 měsíci +4

      To be fair, quite a few DSMP songs go pretty hard.

    • @Bruh-ob9mi
      @Bruh-ob9mi Před 2 měsíci +3

      I’m blaming Spotify for “baddiecore”

  • @Kay-iq6mr
    @Kay-iq6mr Před 4 měsíci +71

    corpse and mitski being put in the same genre should be a crime

  • @iantuck123
    @iantuck123 Před 7 měsíci +53

    losing it at Adventure Time being considered pov: indie

  • @BestGuy2103
    @BestGuy2103 Před 3 měsíci +33

    My belief on what pov: indie could be. It could be a genre where big bands try to sound like they're indie

    • @kimyona9746
      @kimyona9746 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Unironic Ironic Indie music

    • @chuuchuuutrain
      @chuuchuuutrain Před 2 měsíci +1

      my top artist was Mac Demarco (and some other indie artists) and I got pov indie

  • @cublics3810
    @cublics3810 Před 4 měsíci +28

    i think its funny that looking on the "list" feature there are some bands that ONLY have the genre "pov: indie" that, again, are not indie

    • @cublics3810
      @cublics3810 Před 4 měsíci +6

      like AJRs ONNLY genre is "pov: indie"

  • @JM-uj1vd
    @JM-uj1vd Před 7 měsíci +40

    POV: the guy who listens to “indie” is telling you about all the underground bands he listens to

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren Před 7 měsíci +77

    I think pov: indie is a goofy genre name, but at least it's goofy in a funny way. Dream SMP as a genre name has me bubbling with rage. It's like if I started making music and then spotify noticed that my username on several platforms is a Stormlight Archive reference, and based on that decided "all music similar to this is now called Surgebinder-core"

  • @PeKaNo
    @PeKaNo Před 7 měsíci +23

    this is not how genres fucking work. I'm sorry but if me and a ton of other people listen to depressive suicidal black metal and beethoven's moonlight sonata, both of these music are sad and spotify might call them "sadcore" or whatever, but that does not make them belong to the same genre.
    A genre isn't "algorithmically defined by the people who listen to it", that's pure bullshit. It's literally just killing music classification and history (most music genres are indeed history-related).

    • @blustre
      @blustre  Před 7 měsíci +11

      nah thats sadcore my dude

  • @konkavstylisten
    @konkavstylisten Před 3 měsíci +6

    Software developer. Had a guest lecturer at Uni who at the time were one of the main machinelearning developers at Spotify.
    Spotify learns from user patterns. What you found in the article is true, but he also said one thing during the several classes he held. Is that playlisting is not only huge for artists. It’s huge for Spotify also. In the case of ”POV Indie” it might be that it’s simply the name of, or in the description of several playlists which have a huge amounts of followers. He used Brostep, Colour bass and Beatleesque as examples. It makes way more sense when it’s partly the users that ”creates” these new genres.
    So in theory if we want to do a huge RickRoll, your fanbase should start creating playlists where they use ”Blustre-core” in the name of description of the playlist

  • @rainbowzzzplayzzz
    @rainbowzzzplayzzz Před 7 měsíci +13

    I think really the "POV Indie" is for songs that blew up on tiktok. thats why its POV cuz thats a thing people said in tiktok. The artists arent indie at all though, i wish theyd just call it Tiktok music idec. Indie already has a meaning and this isnt it.

  • @jorgeeduardogarcia1686
    @jorgeeduardogarcia1686 Před 7 měsíci +34

    I prefer the term bedroom [insert genre]. Kinda fits more the home made vibe for me

  • @Evanna11LilyLuna
    @Evanna11LilyLuna Před 7 měsíci +17

    The other definition of pov indie is something like where they sing like 'from their point of view', which makes sense for the artists I listen to I think.

    • @justwilliam5995
      @justwilliam5995 Před 4 měsíci +6

      There’s only a few artists who dare to sing from their point of view

  • @Vincent1808
    @Vincent1808 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I think it’s pop music that brands itself as indie. Or very pop-ified indie

  • @robinglizard778
    @robinglizard778 Před 7 měsíci +29

    KIKUO MENTIONED🍾🍾🍾

  • @Master-of-memes
    @Master-of-memes Před 6 měsíci +14

    My spotify was pov: indie and I was listening to joji, vansire, Mac demarco and that's about it

  • @Joobaiyes
    @Joobaiyes Před 3 měsíci +3

    My last spotify wrapped said I listened to 6 genres:
    Rock
    And 5 different indies
    So britpop, 70’s punk, pop-punk, like 3 different metal types, british indie rock and grunge don’t exist anymore according to it

  • @lola_la_cava
    @lola_la_cava Před 7 měsíci +11

    that's the most vague name 😩
    it made every wrapped kinda look alike

  • @xavierleclavier8435
    @xavierleclavier8435 Před 7 měsíci +13

    just discovered your channel because i was wondering what pov: indie was too, but i really like your style!
    10/10 will return

    • @blustre
      @blustre  Před 7 měsíci

      awesome, glad ya liked the video!

  • @gigauim1745
    @gigauim1745 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Kind of late to the topic, but in my opinion "pov: indie" are songs that sound indie but they don't necessarily have to be underground/small artists, many of the songs listed under pov: indie sound a bit indie even though it can be from very successful artists. Tame Impala for example.

  • @linn4111
    @linn4111 Před 7 měsíci +4

    My estimated guess would be that it’s any artist that could be considered indie and have been trending on TikTok at any time, rather than classified as a new genre

  • @falsevektor
    @falsevektor Před 7 měsíci +3

    Spotify "genres" are so weird... but it is what it is. At the end of the day, what they say I listen to doesn't really affect me, I know who I am and what I'm about.
    Anyway, I discovered you on my FYP on TikTok and I really like your series where you listen to all the different music genres and give your opinions and rate them! Keep up the great content, man!

  • @StarChargerStudios
    @StarChargerStudios Před 3 měsíci +1

    To me it kind of sounds like POV: indie is saying that people who listen to it are the type to say that they found a cool indie artist and then proceed to play the most well known artist of all time

  • @pman7588
    @pman7588 Před 7 měsíci +3

    My wrapped considered will wood pov indie

  • @CharaTF2
    @CharaTF2 Před 2 měsíci +2

    if they add a random new metal genre to spotify at any point i wouldnt notice because our genre list is so crazy

  • @JuliaSchetters
    @JuliaSchetters Před 3 dny

    The funniest thing is that spotify started making intimate, sensual and freaky playlists based on your listening patterns

  • @kittypink
    @kittypink Před měsícem +1

    Apparently I listen to a ton of pov:indie, even my favorite band is pov:indie. Even though they're signed to Republic. I thought indie had the simplest definition, y'know of not having a label but I suppose I assumed too much. Since even TØP and their massive success is indie I guess.

  • @mk-aka-morgan8386
    @mk-aka-morgan8386 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I stopped using Spotify last year, so I’m a little sad I didn’t get to see what strange genres I would’ve gotten and now I’m a little disappointed🥺

  • @zonkeysnuggler
    @zonkeysnuggler Před měsícem +1

    omg I DONT KNOW HOW BUT THEY FOUND ME mentioned

  • @monti0120
    @monti0120 Před měsícem

    i guess it's just commercial pop/ soft rock that pulls some influences/aesthetics from stuff like bedroom pop

  • @roselialouise8001
    @roselialouise8001 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I think pov: indie prolly means popular "indie" music

  • @Mtv-get-off-thee-air
    @Mtv-get-off-thee-air Před 3 měsíci +1

    I got a suggestion for something called “flannel” I get that that’s grunge but that’s so cringe

  • @anushkaaujla-letts1305
    @anushkaaujla-letts1305 Před 4 měsíci +1

    pls make a video about indie types cuz i thought that was my genre but now i’m confused lol

  • @hellwrld_
    @hellwrld_ Před 7 měsíci +1

    My top was pov indie and now I’m more confused

  • @evandupler2294
    @evandupler2294 Před 3 dny

    Bro what’s up with the other CZcams searches???

  • @foxesfromparis
    @foxesfromparis Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ive always said i listen to indie but i honestly have no idea what it would even be called

  • @NinaValentine9
    @NinaValentine9 Před 4 měsíci

    I personally love spotify. Their algorithm has worked for me too Blustre!

  • @interstellarmoss
    @interstellarmoss Před 3 měsíci +1

    BEARS IN TREES MENTION

  • @Buffysbuffet
    @Buffysbuffet Před 2 měsíci +1

    Gyatt is a genre on spotify

  • @blustre
    @blustre  Před 7 měsíci +5

    do y'all consider pov: indie a real genre??

    • @takuanuva1770
      @takuanuva1770 Před 7 měsíci +8

      No. People who’ve seen my Spotify wrapped now have less of an idea about the music I listen to. It’s so damn vague. As well as indie in general.

    • @mengoflavouredCookie
      @mengoflavouredCookie Před 7 měsíci

      no

  • @nokilo2478
    @nokilo2478 Před 7 měsíci

    Why does it say that under "Other's searched for" at 1:32

  • @tisteatime
    @tisteatime Před 4 měsíci +1

    i wish furry wasn't a genre on spotify i don't wanna be exposed every wrap

  • @Belladonno_The_Clown
    @Belladonno_The_Clown Před 2 měsíci +1

    I also got POV indie 😂😅

  • @GreyMcBeal
    @GreyMcBeal Před 6 měsíci +1

    Maybe they’re just calling out people who only listen to tiktok popular stuff lmao

  • @natel42069
    @natel42069 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The jarvisian commentary community grows

    • @blustre
      @blustre  Před 7 měsíci +2

      lmaoo love jarvis

  • @scourgatory
    @scourgatory Před měsícem

    i think at this point, people are just calling any sad or edgy pop indie, so their music taste sounds more interesting than it is. and for some reason emo genres have gotten wrapped into it?

  • @not_okay875
    @not_okay875 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I think they just spammed random artists with over 250k monthly listeners and hoped for the best for pov: indie.
    I listen to tally hall, will wood and the tapeworms etc, and its crazy how i got the exact same genre as someone who listens to taylor swift and lana del ray. Like how???
    Spotify has multiple flaws already. A couple months ago my ad breaks went from 2 or 1 ads per ad break, TO 4 ADS THAT ARE 30 SECONDS THAT JUST ADD MORE ADS WHEN YOU PRESS THE SKIP BUTTON AFTER THE 5 SECONDS. And another problem, EVERYTIME YOU MANUALLY PRESS ON A SONG YOU GET A 30 SECOND UNSKIPPABLE AD, THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT YOU GET ANOTHER 15 SECOND AD. This really frustrated me because usually i listen to music while working with my phone far away, so i can’t just reset the app and it gets rid of the ad. I have to sit through 4 ads after only 2, 2 minute songs.
    Spotify already has made a massive amount of money already from the ad breaks and spotify premium users. I don’t understand why they need to make the app literally unusable for non spotify premium users.
    It’s frustrating me so much I’m thinking about getting youtube premium so i can listen to music on youtube ad free, or any other alternative app. I’m not giving any more money to spotify in 2024.

  • @ethanparsons113
    @ethanparsons113 Před 7 měsíci +4

    i feel like the genre was somewhat satirical to the fact that everyone calls so much music indie so they put basic ass cringy bands in there and said “pov: when you’re indie 🙈🫨”

  • @lianbenisty9438
    @lianbenisty9438 Před 7 měsíci

    good video tho!

  • @wengenn
    @wengenn Před 7 měsíci

    I think it's just music/bands that's became popular thanks to tiktok or Instagram, and they didn't know what to call it

  • @tisteatime
    @tisteatime Před 4 měsíci

    i think pov: indie is just artists that get used in pov tiktoks

  • @lianbenisty9438
    @lianbenisty9438 Před 7 měsíci +4

    pov: Indi isn't new, I acutely got it last year in my Spotify wrapped.

  • @Thesupernova21
    @Thesupernova21 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Wait, you're the "I don't wanna be genrephobic." guy.
    Yeah, I think POV: Indie is a stupid term for the indie genre.

  • @dairyblitz
    @dairyblitz Před 6 měsíci +1

    i listen to cg5... i got pov: indie....wtf

    • @fwurbz
      @fwurbz Před 4 měsíci +2

      your first crime is listening to cg5

  • @toyotaecw
    @toyotaecw Před 7 měsíci +1

    I mean there’s pornogrind, baddiecore (aka cum metal), slamming brutal deathcore, thall…

    • @Bruh-ob9mi
      @Bruh-ob9mi Před 2 měsíci

      CUM METAL? IN MY GENRE? UNREAL. GET IT OUT.

  • @vanilladrawsstuff
    @vanilladrawsstuff Před 6 dny

    WHY IS KIKUO CONSIDERED TO BE INDIE?!? 😭😭

    • @vanilladrawsstuff
      @vanilladrawsstuff Před 6 dny

      I mean yeah he’s independent but if you listen to his music it doesn’t sound like indie at all why is he here

  • @Heezbungus
    @Heezbungus Před 7 měsíci +2

    Atleast name it TikTok pop or something

  • @KudrnataOvce
    @KudrnataOvce Před 2 měsíci

    its just tiktok music

  • @pelekalikimaka
    @pelekalikimaka Před 7 měsíci +2

    It just seems to me pov indie is music for people who think they have unique, alternative taste