Witcher 3 Is Avallac'h EVIL?
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Witcher 3 Is Avallac'h EVIL? This video discusses Avallac'h from the witcher 3 and what his motives are. What was Avallac'h like in the witcher books? How did Avallac'h change in the witcher games? Was Avallac'h helping Ciri and Geralt? I discuss this Aen Elle Elf and more in today's video to determine if Avallac'h is good or bad.
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Geralt of Rivia, is a witcher, or monster hunter for hire, a white-haired and cat-eyed legend in his own time. Trained from early childhood and mutated to gain superhuman skills, strength and reflexes, witchers like Geralt are a natural consequence of and counterbalance to the monster-infested world in which they live. As Geralt, you’ll embark on an epic journey in a war-ravaged world that will inevitably lead you to confront a foe darker than anything humanity has faced so far-the Wild Hunt.
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It's really interesting how there are three separate characters in the witcher books who's backstory involves them getting dumped by their girlfriends.
Tale as old as time for men.
Who are the other two guys you're talking about?
@@RubALamp Regis and Vilgefortz
@@andrew65383do you mean detlaff
@@andrew65383 Vilgefortz don't make such a big deal of being dumped.
I always thought Avallac’h should have been the big bad of The Witcher 3. In the books, he’s flat out scummy-holding Ciri hostage to have sex with the elven king and bear him a child. His people’s home world is dying and someone with the Elder Blood is needed to lead them to safety. And as George says, he’s never gotten over Lara Dorren leaving him for a lowly human. Tons of motivation for Avallac’h to betray Geralt and Ciri. Plus, I’m a sucker for stories where the hero discovers bad guy was standing next to him the whole time (I’m looking at you, Solas).
His plan was dumb also. It was empathise in the serie that only young elves can reproduce. Auberon was 650 years old so a old elf so sterile so their plan was doomed from the start.
I agree. Like the twist at the end of The Hunger Games where Snow wasn't the main bad guy all along
@@efaristi9737 It's emphasised only young *female* elves can reproduce.
I think it really is possible he had a change of heart. Maybe he thought after some consideration, and after seeing the direction Eredin was taking the Aen Elle and the Red Riders, he considered that maybe his kind weren’t much better than humans. So maybe that’s why he’s somewhat amicable with us in TW3.
"Are we the baddies?" Moment
@@Rekhan4242 Yeah lol exactly
I imagine if he had a moment like that it would hit HARD AF. A real eye opener. I don’t think he’s bad but his insane lack of emotion makes him a guy I wouldn’t wanna hang out with lol
@@nickbriggs8059 Yeah, that’s a good point
@@nickbriggs8059Pretty sure he’s autistic lmao
@10:42 And for added ick, don't forget: in all canons, Auberon is Ciri's ancestor, as the father of Lara Dorren!
I wouldn't say he is doing it for the greater good, the most evil would still want to stop the white frost because it is a threat to them. His working with Ciri to stop it is just as selfish as wanting her blood in my opinion, the white frost is threatening his home world so helping her is really just helping himself. She is already past the point that she can be forced to marry and conceive a child so his motivation for her is no longer there but if she lives she will eventually marry and have a child who will then have a child of their own who he could kidnap and force into a marriage and have half elven children that could be bred until they are pretty much elves. And I am sure he intended to get rid of Eriden the whole time so whoever the new king would be would be Ciri's grandaughters husband. He is playing a long game for the same goal he had in the books but helping Ciri and stopping the white frost is just for that goal. Towards humans I would say yes he is evil, for elves he isnt evil but not good either.
I agree. If your an elf he doesn’t seem that bad and maybe even good depending on some things but if your human imo he is a bad guy.
Honestly makes a lot of sense
@@RavenStorm1031 Makes more sense than his sudden change of opinion regardless of what his GF in the island cave laboratory says.
@@JETWTF ya it really does. Kinda threw me off when I saw how he acted through everything honestly
@@RavenStorm1031 The theory sheds a whole new light on the GF in the cave laboratory words. She could have just been truthful about his feelings towards Ciri.
Been a while since I finished the books so I completely forgot about Avallac’h’s origin with Lara Dorren. That explains a lot and adds an extra layer to the fact he attempted see her ghost with the magic lamp in Velen. I wonder what happened to him after TW3
Great seeing you upload again btw, I’ve been rewatching your Witcher playthrough’s again, pretty nostalgic
Avallac'h always interested me as a deeply morally grey character, between being almost just evil in the books to where his story concludes in Witcher 3. I think in the same way vampires see humans are far lesser, elves do as well, its sort of an interesting tale of a hundreds of years old higher up elf relearning that humans are not just disposable pets. Whether that was a total change of heart or not is where the interest in debate comes in.
Great video!
Your still going! Im so glad so see! I remember when your video was just a picture and talking! You where gone from my yt forever! Your videos look really good! Im glad i found you again!
Really happy to see you coming back to youtube
Strictly speaking, assuming Avallac'h *primarily* loved Lara for Elder Blood is debatable; he seems very-very personally hurt based on his LOTL outburst. Another noteworthy fact, Avallac'h is of Elder Blood himself - as are Aen Saevherne in general.
Finally, in the books, Avallac'h's motivation is to save the Aen Seidhe from persecution and death through the "global cooling" of the Continent. White Frost is not a multiverse-traversing cataclysm, it's the natural process of the planet on which the Witcher's characters reside. So Aen Elle do have a "greater good" motive (not negating that they have their own imperialistic streak as well) and Avallac'h works toward that.
Omg, I've been waiting for a new video!! Thank you WG
Would definitely love to see you do another playthrough with the updated version of Witcher 3 with that new quest CDPR announced. I'm sure a lot of the community here would love it as well if you do have the sort of time for that. Great analysis into Avallach, keep the videos coming bro :D
@WitcherGeorge, Anytime you have a new video about TW3, I'm all over it! You''re the foremost expert on this game!
Witcher 3 is a great game. But the main story left me craving for little more of a clarity, and little more of a context and little more in depth with the motivations of different agents. Specifically of the en-el-elves and the main villan. The main story dosen't really have a very strong gut punch. It is sort of there in the background.
Great video and channel (I'm currently binging through it because my god, such great lore videos!) Avallac'h frustrates me in the game as someone who has just started reading the books because I feel like the game doesn't do a great job of communicating why Avallac'h might not be one to trust. Like as someone unfamiliar with him, he comes off as a guy who just helped Ciri avoid the Wild Hunt, who then got turned into Uma, and then when we finally meet him, Geralt is randomly distrustful of him. But the game doesn't really help people not knowledgeable of the books as to why Geralt doesn't trust him (atleast to my memory). This video helps clear up ALOT! Thank you!
I’m happy to see you posting a new The Witcher 3 video @WitcherGeorge
I havnt watched witcher videos in a while but i’m so glad to see a new one!!
Jesus Christ in the games I wouldn’t call him “kind” I always thought there was something off with him I’ve always been ready / eager to take him down sadly never got the chance.
I’m not shocked to hear in the books he’s not any better I dunno if I’d call him evil but he’s definitely not any good.
Edit : I’d love to know the difference between the white frost in books & game if you get the time. 👍🏼
Another great video, mate. I would like to see, at some point, a breakdown of the worst ending of The Witcher 3. Does Ciri really die, or just disappears after defeating the White Frost? And Geralt has beaten more monsters in a single battle than those surrounding him at the end of The Witcher 3 bad ending. Sure he believes he has lost Ciri, but he still has the love of his life Yen (or Triss if you go that way), so he still had things to fight for. Why would he give up??? Makes no sense to me.
Good idea :)
He has similarities to Darth Plagueis from Star Wars.
New Witcher 3 content makes my day. I just started a new playthrough. My 34774th.
Tf you played it that many times?
@@George-um2vc lol feels like it.
I never liked or trusted him at all, kinda wish I had option to take him out honestly.
He’s as evil as many other characters including those we would call the “good” guys
Like Philipa, definitely "not" a good guy
Hey, how are you doing today? Are you going to do a video on the 1 witcher game on The villains that attack School of the Wolf.
Just like most people in The Witcher, he’s not evil, he just serves himself
There's a funny south park easter egg when they arrive at the world of the Aen Elle. Geralt mentions how beautiful the buildings are. Avallach says elven architecture is just a little bit more advanced than that of humans. I thought he was going to put his head between his legs and start sniffing his own farts cos he sounded just like Gerald in 'smug alert'
If he's not lying durin the conversation in frozen lighthouse, and it does not seems he does, he basically seeing how fear of White Frost has driven Eredin towards certain actions and attitudes, he embraced pragmatic stoicism, and made an only choice he saw would produce results he desired. He yhen realised that virtue and compassion, and not being racist towards humans, lf course, would produce the same result. Thus, he self reflected, and sided with Cirilla's goals (the final act in the Tower is him putting all agency and soultions to his goals in the hands of another essentially).
The Witcher 3's cut content reveals that Avallac'h was originally going to be the game's final boss.
For real?
@@marleyfa845 Yeah. This game had an insane amount of content that didn't make it into the final product. Some of it - like Gaunter O'Dimm and a big battle in the city - was recycled and incorporated into the DLC expansions.
Evil? No.
Good? No.
Has dubious morals? Yes.
Is untrustworthy? Yes.
Has some hidden agenda? Yes.
All in all, an interesting character who is fun to both read about and interact with in the game.
@8:13: It (the White Frost) is basically the end of every universe/dimension, i.e. a multiversal-level extinction.... event/entity. People talk about "worlds" a lot, but I think that's because this is a medieval setting and they don't totally-understand what a universe or a dimension is. The world of the Aen Aelle is a completely-different parallel dimension/alternate universe as The Continent- a different reality. That's why the only way to travel from The Continent to that universe or vice-versa is via magical portals. And there are A LOT of others of these other universes as well (the reason Post-Conjunction creatures appeared on The Continent after the Conjunction of the Spheres is because they crossed-over/were transported over from other universes during the Conjunction.) And as many of these universes as there are, the White Frost would eventually consume them *ALL*. Every last one would be rendered a barren, frozen wasteland where nothing lived or could survive or thrive. When Ciri defeats the White Frost, she is literally saving the lives of every person in her world, present and future- everyone who is living or will ever be born, AND doing the same for every universe the White Frost had not gotten to yet (....at least, that's true assuming the White Frost will never come back. In typically Andrej style, it's unclear/ambiguous if that is the case.) We're talking probably billions of lives, maybe trillions. And a pretty strong case is made that Ciri would not have been able to do that without Avallac'h's help so in a sense he saved everyone in multiple existences as well. That's a strong case to forgive him for A LOT.
the gods have blessed us with a new witcher video!
Characters in the witcher are mostly nuanced but I think of him as a villain because he has the same goals/narrative position as Emhyr and the Lodge: taking advantage of Ciri’s body and disregard who she is as a person
Anymore Yennefer videos? Maybe something about her maternal relationship with Ciri or her apprenticeship with Tissaia? Or maybe you've done videos about either or already?
Love this guy ❤
Not “good” nor “evil”. Definitely obsessed with the elder blood, but I do not think it is from a purely “evil” intention. He, at the very least, does care to an extent about Ciri’s wellbeing in contrast to Vilgefortz who could care less and only cares about the power that the elder blood can give him. Excited to see how the Netflix show approaches his character (though I know you and probably most people here are not too interested in the show anymore lol). Sometimes feels lonely being a lover of all the Witcher content, games, books, and show 🤪
good thing you're lonely than
good or evil ill take both are interesting at least as long as its not the Netflix bland version . 😒
I'm currently reading the second book, barely started, so the only time I've known about the character was in The Witcher 3. Even through the multiple playthroughs I've done I always thought he was kind of good as in a "good person" but he looked super sketchy, specially after you get in his secret base and talking with that female elf. Never really fully liked him but at the same time I didn't dislike him either, kind of in the limbo area of friendly but not really.
I feel like all elves are just hard to trust. Like Geralt says, its in their nature. They seem like they are just born to be chaotic neutral at best.
It's funny how he literally absorbed a country destroying lvl of magic being emitted by Ciri in her berserk state and no explanation was ever given
Oh yes. He's just evil in Ciri's favor sometimes since he had a falling out with Eredin.
I played the games after reading the books and seeing Avallach there made me pissed, I wanted Geralt or Ciri to deck the elf’s face off
Wow 4 months later and a new video.
I find it more believable hes just out to sabotage Ciri because shes human while boosting his own interest for power. He saves Ciri for a year because he manages to puppet Erendir. Its also interesting he risks Ciris pdophecy in the human world.
Granted him trying to study and recreating the elder blood is kinda like a dick move in terms of ciris relationship but there are others far worse then him so he for what it’s worth he’s got that going for him
1:30 He was meant to have a child with her, there's nothing vague about that.
2:14 Honestly, his love for Lara seemed quite toxic, he always spoken of "how Cregenam stole her from him" but Lara didn't belonged to him, she was not his posession. Gregenam stole nothing because neither of them owned Lara and if Crevan truly loved her, he wouldn't consider her as his or be that angry with her choices. It's not love, it's control.
2:42 I don't really understand what you are trying to say, Even if he loved Lara, Avalla'ch is not the one that make that decision. They were meant to marry because they were both geneticals bombs, part of careful breeding programme to cultivate the Elder Gene so the Aen Elle could take back control of Ard Gaeth. Avalla'ch has Elder Blood or at least a similar vesion.
5:55 That plan was so flawed. It was stated in the books that only young elves can reproduce and Auberon is old, like very old. So Avalla'ch plan had no chance to work so i don't understand what he was doing. He was younger than Auberon and had the Elder Gene, he was meant to couple with Lara so why wasn't he choose as candidate ?
6:55 He was their king, no need to go that far as god.
7:21 Also, in the books, it's ambiguous if Eredin really wanted Auberon dead, he seemed really surprised when Ciri told him.
9:46 Not from his point of view, i think he wanted the Elder Blood not just to get its power back but also to save the Aen Seidhe from human oppression and the White Frost.
10:10 Well, humans generally value their lives and the lives of other animals based on the fact they are more intelligent and sapient so that's not very different from Avalla'ch opinion on humans.
I completed the game an hour ago for the first time and I've read the books too. I wouldn't say he's "bad" but he's definitely not a good character. He's pretty shady.
Definitely in the books, eh in the games
Yes, he is.
Well he is a wee bit very r@pey about Ciri, so...
Speciesist?
You'll have to define evil first...
Avallac'h is just like that one austrian painter
In the Game he is more like an anti-Hero and in Books an anti-Villain
It’s really not the same characters. In the game he was just a powerful elven pervert. And that’s the way he’ll be remembered.
In the books he was a real piece of shit to Ciri, however he was doing what he thought he had to do to save his people.
I think you were right calling him racist. Humans and elves are different races of beings and this game is rife w racism on both sides. I think good is good and beautiful is beautiful and imo race has absolutely nothing to do with it. From a human perspective and maybe it’s the ears and eyes but I think elves are smoking hott 😂 kinda wish they existed irl!
Avallach he using ciri for his purpose he doesn't care to ciri he helped her for him self
Guy lacks emotions, and has a superiority complex that was wounded by loosing his gyal to a human
It's like he still can't comprehend how it happened
Stoping the white frost is so dumb and elves and humans are the same
Depends, do you consider evil the man that almost convinced Ciri, at the time JUST A CHILD to sleep and become pregnant of a 200+ years old man and that later, in Witcher 3 is helping Ciri out of fear and as a way to exploit her OP powers???
Then YES, Avallach is evil...
He's an elf, that's automatically makes him evil. Never trust an elf in any fantasy besides Tolkien's fantasy.
I think he is on the lowest tier of neutrality
when shawty has an interesting genome
the word you were looking for isn't racism it's xenophobia
In the game there is plenty of encounter with Elves who are rather unpleasant
sure they had some issues but they come across as arrogant , snotty , often violent , racist , and ungrateful
Definitely evil. I would have loved if we had an option to battle him.
He'd have killed Geralt without much effort tbh.
@@geoffrogers7590 Maybe as Ciri though....wait, does dimeritium work on him? I mean, it should, but Aen Elle and their magic are kinda weird.
@@geoffrogers7590 I’m not sure. The only time you see him fight is in the Dhiddeweht desert, against the sandcrabs. We don’t really know how capable he is at fighting. But keep in mind, that Geralt killed Imlerith, Caranthir, and Eredin by himself. I think Geralt can kill one more Aen Elle.
@@seafreshmeat9241 He levelled the forest in Skellige and vaporized a fully-kitted Wild Hunt soldier WHILE cursed, later opening the Gate between the worlds. Mages are a little like artillery in a medieval society; they are not on a comparable level to witchers or anyone else.
@@Smuusik Caranthir is a mage. And the spell used to destroy that forest isn’t exactly practical. Probably a last resort. I doubt he would use something like that against Geralt
ANTI-HERO He’s the anti hero 😂
nah, hes cool
He does some evil shit in the books, his intentions might not be totally motivated by malice but he has a lot of contempt towards humans for sure. Definitely a morally gray character. I don't think anyone is 100% good or 100% evil unless we're talking Jesus and Satan lol
Not bad, but closer to bad than good. He's manipulative and utilitarian, which isn't bad, but he's abusive and racist.
Though I do also like him in the books because of how he wants to protect history.
There are villains, there are heroes, there are bystanders, and tall tales, it all depends on who you are and which side of the story you fall on what are in the end.
You need to watch more anime, dude. Non-humans are people, too. Basically, if they can communicate with humans, they're people. This includes dragons and demons, and beast kin, and especially elves, dwarves, etc. Especially if the dragons can shapeshift into humans. Would also include slimes like Rimuru from Tensei Slime. I mention this because you seem to question if Avallac'h is a person, and he very much is... and if he's racist, which he also is, in the more literal sense. He's actually racist against other races, instead of an ethnicist, racist against other ethnicities as the term "racist" is usually used.
Is Avallac'h evil?
Good morning, I guess. What else is new?
I was so mad when the game didn't let us kill him. 😤
The idea of evil is childish and masks real discussion of issues and intent
trees can live several times longer than us but most of us don't even recognize it as a living creature.
“Evil” is a perspective, nothing more. There’s no real good or evil, everyone thinks they’re doing the right thing, even the antagonist. In his mind he is a force for good, in my mind he is opposition with his own agenda. So short answer, no. There’s no “evil” or “good” just that person’s perspective and how their agenda compares to yours. To me, he is the enemy who wants ciri and her power for her own reasons, to himself he is trying to control a danger for the betterment of everyone. It’s all about a persons perspective and their own views on what is right or wrong. Despite his insistence he n wanting to do good for everyone and have her power for right reasons, to me he’s just another shady person with a secret agenda to take advantage of ciris abilities. So I’ll say he’s “evil” even though “evil” doesn’t really exist as black and white as that, his ideals and views heavily contrast with my own. Not a fan of his racism, and how he conducts himself to use ciri and her abilities. He’d probably say I’m the “evil” one though.
I call him "my favorite incel elf" lmao. He's a guilty pleasure character that I also love to hate. I find him interesting because he helped Ciri in the game, even if he's still benefiting from it. He's evil. He is complacent in trapping and cocercing Ciri into the whole child making with her ancestor. If I was Geralt I would kill him for subjecting my daughter to that, new leaf or not, once he's outlived his usefulness, off with his head. He also practices eugenics, that's never good. He is totally aware of the genocide his people commit and want to continue by using Ciri, then had his change of mind. Definitely a lawful evil alignment. I wonder about all the cut content that involed him...
Yes. He's evil full stop. I unironically wish you could kill him in TW3. He just like all the other Aen Elle with a twisted perversion towards Ciri and her blood, did not in any universe care one bit about her. His past aside, he's an egotistical perverted wacko who should have died.
Book Avallac'h is way more arrogant than what has been showed in the game. He's very definition of punchable villain.
Frankly, despite what Nilfgaard are. Aen Elle getting their means of teleportation would be much worse.
something is still bothering me, how he knew about Eredin poisoning their king, When Geralt asks him about it he says it is unimportant