The False & True Dan Tian in Nei Gong & Alchemy
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- A short clip from Damo looking at the common error of focusing upon the false Dan Tian in Daoist Nei Gong and Nei Dan practice.
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Brilliantly clear and so very helpful! Thank you so much!
Thanks Damo for explaining the three different "ways of working" systems use the Dan Tian for - a great synthesis in a simple list to help increase my awareness and understand different teachers/teaching styles.
You are welcome
Even though I am kind of an old fellow, I am at an early stage in my exploration of this stuff, and I find your talk here incredibly helpful-it will likely save me a lot of frustration going forward. I’ve only recently discovered your channel, and am very grateful for the teachings that you so freely share. There is SO much to learn!
It’s difficult for knowledge of which information to start with, and continue from, when being taught. Each person differs with learning this art. I am pleased to have the ability to access your knowledge. Cheers Damo.
Thank you so very helpful
Was practicing with the “false Dantien”
Thank you for clarifying the location of the dan tian. It has often been described as " 2, (sometimes 3!?) fingers below the navel in the 'middle/ center' of your body" or " the middle point between the Ren 6 and the ming man " . Your oscillating horizontal line exercise is very helpful.
That was really helpful and I definitely learned. I think that many of the things I have read are littered with assumptions and this really holds people back, me included. You always give clear instructions and it is the precision that you bring to these talks that I really enjoy. Thank you.
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Standing practice, making energy waves inside the body revolving it around the center of gravity, tied to the lower cavity. Allow the energy to move naturally in and out, expand or implode. Anchor the mind and body in stillness (state of letting go/release) and let the inside move. Perhaps you can call it developing and storing kinetic energy in the lower abdomen.
The body will change over time and deepen automatically when you keep feeling what new things you can feel with every practice.
Thank you very much, Damo! I have spent many years playing with qi without realising what the true cause of my beer tummy is. Turns out it's a fake dan tien rather than beer 😀... internal cause rather than external. Certainly am going to spend as much time as required to identify the right one and get comfortable with it. Cheers!
Very useful. You have saved me time in learning where to hold the mind. Namaskaram
Thank you for this very clear explanation. It's much appreciated!
Thank you so much for all of your shared wisdom. What a gift!
As usual, very interisting and helpful ! Thanks a lot
Thanks for bringing practical clarity to a cloudy issue.
Happy to be of service :)
Thank you very much for sharing. It is extremely helpful, the distinction of Qihai and the Dantian was never very clear to me. Unfortunately, I am one of those who’s wasted years of practice, getting glimpses of the dantian now and then, but nothing too solid, consistent and developing as I would like to, specially after putting so much effort into it. So I thank you for that 🙏
Good explanation, thanks.
It took me 12 years to find and mobilize my True Center (lower Tan Tien). It transformed my understanding of the Form, Yi, and Peng. I am early in the refinement process.
Well done 👍 :)
Excellent clear instruction, thank you
There are a lot of fake teachers out there, who claim to be a qigong master, but they seem not to know the basics of human energetics. Damo is real, as Dr. Yang Jwing Ming is. Both studied diligently nei gong and both love to teach.
Thank you, very helpful
sir you're a true gem thank you so much
Thanks for this great explanation Damo
Very helpful. Thanks for explaining it so well.
Thank you! I've been practicing on the false Dian Tian for years :(
Huge thank you for this!
This video is helpful for someone who is not familiar with this at all, but has dedicated some time to read the basics,before watching the whole video. Otherwise he will not understand it from the first time from your explanation,as he would from the first time if he reads about these things first. This is a slight con, but yea. If someone wants to learn something truly, he will first read about it, because if requires more focus and assimilation rather than with just listening about something completely unfamiliar..
In short: You, Sir, have learned the things great, but you are explaining them in a way as if the other person knows what you are talking about. For me, it's ok, i've dedicated time to familiarize myself with this before, but for someone completely unfamiliar it's not a good choice of explanation.
Respect and gratitude!
Thanks :) to be honest, I am not really taking to total beginners though. I am taking to those who who have already searched for Dan Tian but who may have missed it :)
The easiest way I've found to locate the lower dantien is by "sweeping chi" from the feet upward towards the pelvic region. This should be done in sync with breathing. What I have found most effective is to pretend as if I was breathing through a small hole in the lower dantien area, while collapsing the felt sense of the body on the same general area during exhalation. It takes a few hours of training to learn how to this (by practicing pinpointing and stimulating joints in feet and leg), but once mastered, it's possible to center the mind on the LDT under a minute. When activated it will be felt as a gulping, pulsating point exactly where Damo has described.
According to my own experience and research, the LDT is the projection of the pineal gland on the internal body image. It is the easiest energy center to localise due to its closure to the sensory cortex. It is the most viable entry point into the central channel - the upside down projection of the central neuraxis.
The entire body image is essentially an inverted pojection of the brain with the limbs representing the cortex, the perineum representing the frontal lobes, the kidney area being the projection of the temporal lobes. The area in the center of the lower abdomen is the projection of the pineal gland itself, while the centers around the diaphragm (related to clairvoyance and dreaming) are the projections of subcortical nuclei. The head area stands for the brainstem, while the area above the head represents the peripheral nervous system and the entrance into the expanse of the transpersonal consciousness.
Excellent explanation 🙏
Thanks for the clarification. Good lesson.
Muito obrigado pela informação! Com certeza é extremamente útil.
Thanks - I'm really grateful for your videos.
Near the start of the video you talk about a 3rd way of working the Dan Tien where the Mind interacts with Dan tien which retunes sensitivity of mind. Where could I learn more about this? I haven't heard about this way of working before and I don't know where I would search to find out more about.
Always helpful ☯️🙏
Wonderful teaching. Tq
You are welcome 🙏
Very good information, kind respect.
Thanks a lot for sharing that experience :) !
This is gold.
Great video.
Thank you - namaste
Thank you
Great content damian, does this make the mco within the body inside the spine or along the edges of the skin (outside spine, down the front) what's your thoughts. 🤔💭
Thank you for the explanation
Excellent informatio, thank you
Thank you 🙏
great explanation, wish you would do more of these technical videos *hint* *hint*
What do you think about the idea of putting tongue up to the roof to elicit a perineal contraction, I read somewhere that tongue touching pallet causes the perineum to contract. Have you experienced this?
From my experience with a Tibetan practice it allows more chi flow upwards that can be directed towards different brain centers such as the frontal lobes, and others, that is used in my practice for brain, and mind development.
How did your practice/health improve after doing this properly?
I try to cultivate qi into my dantians daily. I just wanted to ask, if there is a feeling of warmth and heat that stays over a day, is it defenetely the true dantian or can it still be the false one? When I practice inner strength or when I need the qi somewhere in my body(digestion, back pain, ...) I not only feel the qi on the point I want it to have but also in my abdomen. Is this the true dantian?
I kind use the mingmen and re6 as points of reference and ren1 as a point of reference as well to kinda place my mind in between them
Hi Damo, you talk about 3 ways to work with the Dan Tian, can you explain what the goal of each ways (maybe the same)? Adam Mizner works with the 1rst one you describ? John Chang works with the 2nd one (accumulation)? I would like to know because I practice Tai Chi with focus on certains points and I meditate with belly breathing and I wouldn't want it to be counterproductive. Thank you by advance
I notice that as I feel into this true lower Dan Tian point, I get a slightly uncomfortable feeling in my spine slightly higher up. Any thoughts on what might be happening?
Yes this is very true the dantien is kinda tricky to locate in the beginning it's kinda behind ren6 infront of mingmen and above ren 1.
You have helped a great deal. I will focus on the real point because I didn't realize my mind was fooling me forward.
😂 Now I can see it and I realize now why my Ki is second hand and doesn't want to build.
I thought it was because I need nei gong.
Now i see that many do this and it is important to put the mind on the actual point.
I will work on this and see if my Ki builds and is kept longer?
I just started nei gong and I should have been doing nei gong long ago but I didn't realize it's importance.
I noticed I can handle the heat of the temperature in AZ much better when my vital energy is up.
30 min is good but I must fight past the boredom of five minutes.
Something so simple and it is so hard?
God is the First Man and He Stood still next to the Ox before He blew life into Himself and became the First believer in God and the First Son of God.
This goes all the way back to God creating His Own Body.
I feel the connection to the battery of nei gong in this way knowing that God Stood still like a Statue on the left hand side of the Ox on the Shoreline of the River Styx where Adamas was created then Adam by Yaldabouth in Gods Anger against those who broke the covenant of Moses.
So the fact that we are god or goddess born from the body of God is important to know in finding the exact reason why this works.
And knowing that God Stood as a clay statue in middle earth before He blew the breath of life into Himself is important to know too.
I will give you some Scripture from the Magi about it.
12. Fifthly He created the sole-created Gav in Eranvej, in the middle of the earth, on the shore of the river Veh-Daitya. that is, the middle of the earth; she was white and shining like the Moon, and her height was three reeds of average length; He produced the Water and the Tree, for her help; for she had strength and growth, from these, in the mingled state.
13. Sixthly, He created Gayomard shining as the Sun; his height was four reeds of average length; his width was symmetrical as the height; he was on the shore of the river Daitya, that is, the middle of the earth; Gayomard was on the left side the Gav on the right side; their distance from each other, their distance, too, from the water Daitya, was as [27] much as their own height; he was possessed of eyes, ears, tongue and mark; Gayomard's possession of the mark was this that mankind were born of his seed, in his semblance; He produced, for his help, repose giving Sleep; for Ohrmazd created forth the Sleep, in the astral form of a tall man, fifteen years of age and radiant; He created Gayomard, with the 'Gav’ out of the Earth; He created forth the sperms of men and animals, out of the Light and verdure of the Sky; as these two sperms are of the principle of Fire, not of the principle of Water; He produced them in the material body of the ‘Gav’ and Gayomard, so that the complete propagation of men and animals arose there from.
Greater Bundahishn chapter 1a:12-13.
Because we are created in the Image of God we can build energy like God by standing still.
Because you have given me good information I wanted to also give you good information. 😊
Now I see when I build the bottom peripheral area then I can feel exactly where the Dan Tian is located right above it.
This is excellent you have helped me a lot!!!! 😊
I now see that my Dan Tien is strong even though I have been placing it in the false spot it still has grown strong.
All it takes is for me to feel the line of my waist area then I can feel the actual lower Dan Tian in it's exact place.
When I use my third eye I can see it!
This is excellent!!!!
This is excellent 👌!!!!
I had the same confusion too, but your totally right
Sadh guru says the location of true Ren 6, inside the body up from the Hui Yin is the place where all chakras (112-114) and and nadis (72,000) flow into each other.
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@Evolving_Soul oh the Chong! Interesting…thank you!
Chi belly. Yeah--resemble that remark! Now working to build my bucket. Thanks for the information!!
Thanks so much for the explanation!! I was wondering what you think about the six healing sounds:)
Maybe has fake and true six healing sounds xaxax
@@ventcislavganev3266 There seems to be a lot of versions out there.
anyone know more about the third method of working with the dantian he mentioned?
How long does it take to form the bucket?
wow. thank you sir
What if we don't feel anything in that area? I don't even know if I'm focusing in the right place... my attention feels fuzzy and not like it's on a particular point
Does anyone gain benefit from inhaling, so that the diaphragm sinks, and then using that sensation of the location where the diaphragm sinks to, as the center of the body, hence the y-axis of the dan tien? I just naturally did that while watching this video and noticed it might be another means of triangulating the dan tien.
I'm having trouble actually holding my mind in a location at all let alone on the Dan tian do you have any videos explaining how to do this or giving tips on how to do it better?
Yes, it’s tricky. It’s just time and practice. There are some talks on this channel somewhere about hidden intention that explain the reason behind many of the difficulties as well :)
The exercises are basicly the same that my shifu was teach me about 20 years ago. Best Regards
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丹田不是一個點，它是一個容器，根據一個人自身的氣能量的大小而定。如果要找確切的位置，我的認知它是人體7個脈輪之一的臍論
不一样，你错了。。。
@@user-nw6nx1cq6k 可以，每個人的體會不一樣，這個沒有標準答案，歡迎分享你的感受
I find it easier for me to get the infinity symbol, and draw it up and down and across plus side to side the intersecting point is the sweet spot.
Or the flower of life
Damo Mitchell vs Shi Heng Yi, who's a greater level boss? :D
Damo focuses on internal, Shi Heng Yi shows more of an external Qigong. None of them is better than the other.
Andy Savero higher
@@nishantbhaskar7685 Shi Heng Yi actually points toward the inner part, but doesn't like to talk about inner work for beginners. This is how it feels to me. Who is higher is rather a false question. The real one is: which one is a good teacher for you and the level you are at. The answer is for you to give.
Nice Fire
Very usefull from what i was Reading IT was 2inch Below navel .. 🎉
thanks😊
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So simple to think that your center is within you when the universe is so vast.
What a simple thinking. LOL
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