Candice Bergen on Truman Capote's storied Black and White Ball
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- In November of 1966, author Truman Capote invited 540 of his high society friends to wear only black and white, and come masked and ready to party at the Plaza Hotel in New York City. Among the swells, Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow, Andy Warhol, Norman Mailer, Henry Fonda and 19-year-old Candice Bergen. The Black and White Ball is featured in the new FX series, "Feud: Capote vs. The Swans." Mo Rocca takes us back to what was described as "the party of the century," with actor Candice Bergen, Laurence Leamer, author of the book "Capote's Women"-upon which the TV series is based, and Tom Hollander, who portrays Capote and Jon Robin Baitz, who wrote the script.
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That little "...ok." from Kuralt at the end is priceless and says it all. 😂
Charles Kuralt was devoted to covering things that really matter to get into this level of pretentiousness. Capote was the epitome of pretension. A poor soul who lost hold of what was really important. Sadly his misbehavior in his last years made a mess of everything.
Yeah, you could tell he was fed up with it all.
Poor Truman Capote… what a royal mess he was.
@redlogicsquare Haha. I came to comment on the same thing. Plus the look on his face. A nice reminder that sometimes we all hate our jobs.
@@adamlunter9958 Don't feel sorry for that little twerp at all.
I think Kuralt would have would have rather been almost anywhere else.
Candice Bergen still looks fabulous , everything about her is still beautiful.
I love her and agree, she is fabulous!
@codybarkdull32l3 - She was too 'non-famous' to be allowed to keep the mask...extraordinary how things can change with time; and yet she DID get invited!
She had one date with Donald Trump when they were both students at Penn. He did not get lucky, she says.
I wonder if anyone remembers her father, Edgar Bergen. He was famous for his puppet Charlie McCarthy, which in a way seemed more alive than Edgar.
@@joansutton I do remember him.
All I can think about is how Phillip Seymour Hoffman absolutely nailed it when he played Capote.
And met a similar end
He was wonderful but I think Tom Hollander maybe has done an even truer performance. He's actually better cast in the role than PSH, but I do love & miss PSH SO much.
Toby Jones also does a great job in Infamous.
ikr
@@kathleenanne1718 I would never have recognized him whoever did the hair and makeup really did a good job he looks completely unrecognizable… So are you watching this right now feud I mean? And if so, is it only on Hulu or is it on FX?
You will never be betrayed by a stranger.
Holy cow- that is good! May I use that?
💯
Great insight. Thanks.
Not true.
Ouch! That's true because they aren't that close to you.
Dominic Dunne gave the first, and enjoyable, Black & White ball several years earlier. ... Best thing about this piece is Candace Bergen's house shoes!
Ha!
Truman was there, copied it and didn't invite the Dunnes. I guess it's hard to face people when you've stolen their Idea.
Wow - didn't realize Dunne had done it 1st, & forgot they were contemporaries. Dunne from a wealthier more stable background; he went to college for example whereas Capote didn't. Can see why Capote would feel threatened by that. Seems they both wrote in the same 'true crime' space, too, so likely some competition? Too bad Capote didn't do like Dunne did in mid-life, left society & moved to the country to fix his head. Kind of shows that wealth is actually health, too? Dunne lived to his 80s; Capote died at 59. Enjoyed both writers, RIP.
@@maritesshoy317 Dunne got into supporting victims as his 20-something daughter was murdered and the guy got out like a year later.
They look like a pair of Geisswein wool clogs. I have a pair myself. They're great.
Charles Kuralt‘s “… ok.” said it all.
LOVE Charles Kuralt!! How we need you today. The other "half"? Now it's the other 1%.
Tom Hollander did a magnificent job imitating Truman. Bravo👏
Yup. The "other half" is indeed the 1%. At least people are figuring it out now.
It was never the other half back then either. It was always the 1%.
It's interesting to see Kuralt reporting a social event. He was a war correspondent in Vietnam and the Congo until he started On the Road in 67.
I wonder what he thought of this assignment. Perhaps he preferred it to the danger and traveling of the previous 10 years.
@ekitten02 At the end he possibly rather prefer being over their and reporting on this Pretentious crap
So comforting to hear Charles Kuralt's voice again. The Golden Age of TV journalism.
I lost it when the narrator said ‘Author Truman Capote had invited *540 of his VERY closest friends* ‘ lmao
"On the road with Charles Kuralt"
Damn.
The memories.....
Loved watching that with my pop pop. Ugh 😩 miss those days 😩
I didn't realize Jane Pauley was still on the air. 73 and looks amazing.
The point of the Black and White Ball was to see and be seen ! Based on Truman Capote's view of who deserved to see and be seen.
What a wonderful person he must have been.
@@scottmoore1614 - Yes, sounds awful. Wacky all that & folks said they didn't even enjoy it!
So pretentious...
@@scottmoore1614 Hardly. Quite the Opposite in fact. Rather despicable.
@@watthaile2053 I was being sarcastic. I think he was a little monster.
Would loved to have heard more from Candice. Based on the title, I expected more. Either she doesn’t have a lot of memories of the ball or CBS edited her for time. I suspect the latter. Too bad.
Felt the same. Not sure why it was edited this way.
She writes about it in her book, Knock Wood...it's really funny because she is aware of how ridiculous it was...
Charles Kuralt. I miss him. He used to have a little moment after Guiding Light to air his thoughts. 🥰
Unfortunately he lived a “double “ life.
@@beverlyhayshouston2770 Yes. He had a secret second family.
Charles wore the perfect trench coat. Loved that guy.
I love the creativity of the masks...from paper plates to an Angel fish & everything in between!
I love the guy with the paper plate mask. Don't know who he is but love him.
It’s so fun
I saw a fun one with many angles of mirrors. Thought that was quite clever .... I'm a reflection of you.
The Capote movie with Philip Seymour Hoffman is fantastic
See The one with ..Toby Jones ...fantastic...😊😅
@maxlinder5262 I've seen both versions and I always go back to rewatch Toby Jones. He's brilliant!
@@maxlinder5262Agree- the one with Toby Jones is a better film, by far. “Infamous” had the misfortune of coming after the release of the earlier movie.
What we have lost! 😢
@@GiftSparks I agree 100%! "Infamous" got robbed! It should've gotten the attention and accolades that went to the other one. I never thought I'd say that Sandra Bullock gave a superior performance as Harper Lee over that of Catherine Keener, but she did. To be fair to Keener, her part was so underwritten it was barely there.
I love Candace Bergen, she seems so normal❤
Her red sneakers!
yeah, super normal to attend those parties in new york at 19 YOs.
after putting down Dan Quail, I couldn't stand her, I think her father cut her out of his wil.
Candace actually appeared on the old Groucho Marx show You Bet Your Life on television when she was 13 yrs old. Probably on youtube somewhere.
" normal" is an insult.
They weren't friends; they were his narcissistic supply.
Exactly
like the majority of rich people or people who pretend to be rich lol
He was such an unusual & quirky man! Don't quite understand the attraction 🤔🤔
@@Always_ThinkingA razor wit.
@@quicklykay ... Was he gay ? He sounded like a washerwoman, jealous and bitter.
Ok all I can think of is the craftsmanship of these beautiful campy masks. I adore them.
Anne Wintour was an adroit eighteen year old at the time. She breathlessly took notes while obsessively observing this NYC Event.
Smart
At least the party she throws is a fundraiser and a marketing gimmick for the magazine she helms. Truman was all about self-promotion.
I love hearing stories from this time
Capote got the idea for the ball after Dominic Dunne and his wife had a black & white ball on the west coast.
YES! Exactly!
I love the guy who came wearing a paper plate.
Loved the Mo Rocca interview and footage of the Black and White Ball! So good to see Candice Bergen and hear from a live attendee. Tom Hollander totally captures Capote in Feud. Thank you Mo!
Tom Hollander is one of my favorite actors. He's wonderful in a film called The Very Thought of You. He has the best line ever said on film in that movie.
Hollander's rendition of Truman is brilliant. I miss Truman every day, although I've never met him. What an unique man, he'll be forever missed. ❤
Tom Hollander is incredible in Ryan Murphy's series.
He's scary good.
Eyes Wide Shut!
Yep...
Without the weirdness. This was for publicity, not secrecy
@@arribaficationwineho32 True, I meant the Eyes Wide Shut crowd
Satan has his rules.
Mo Rocca is a gem.
As a gay, Mo must eat this stuff up.
Agreed. I just love him.
I like his Andy Warhol wig.
If TRUMAN had followed in Dominick Dunne's footsteps...gone into a retreat, and sobered up, he could have written another dozen books and had a more fulfilling life. I always admired Mr. Dunne for doing that. Right in my neck of the woods in Oregon, in a little cabin....Two very incredible writing talents...and both were hob-nobbing with the rich and famous. But, Dunne chose a better life in the end. xoxo
Great assessment. The Dunnes ball was smaller and better, if you look at the pictures. And, you’re right Dunnes got his act together and lived a long productive life.
@@mindakahn9964 Capote was deeply damage from childhood.
@rdbwdc774 You're the only one who seems to grasp the drinking was only one symptom of far more self loathing, self destructive tendencies, and psychological damage. "He should have gotten sober" is an After School Special kind of simplicity that runs through these videos/comment sections since Feud.
You’re right… It is a far more complex issue. Alcoholism is almost always a symptom of deep rooted pain. And I understand it more than you realize, on many personal levels. but I didn’t feel like this was the forum to cover those hundreds of layers. And here’s another to throw in the mix that you probably won’t like. Regardless of our past traumas and abuse. Everyone has a choice to make. Thats the cut- off point to leaving victim hood.
I really miss watching Charles Kuralt, he had such great talent and made you feel better after hearing what he had to say, i like at the end when he’s soo done with all of it and is totally ready to bail😄😄
On the road with.....
I will never forget how she looked in The Sand Pebbles. Otherworldly beautiful.
“In Cold Blood” was not Capote’s last book, as this piece states. “Music for Chameleons,” a collection, appeared in 1980.
And it’s a beautiful collection.
He said In Cold Blood was the last book while Truman Capote was Alive.
@@anthonycoleman1557 capote was alive in 1980
Capote did not die til the mid-80s, duh! @@anthonycoleman1557
@@ThatGirlHoneyAlso, THE DOGS BARK came out in about 1974 - a compilation which had a couple pieces that had never been published , (like "Lola". )
I always wondered if Stanley Kubrick got his inspiration for “Eyes Wide Shut” from Capote’s ball.
More Venetian Carnival, I think. Capote's party might have been a place to be seen, but not a place where people indulged in all kinds of pleasures in masked anonymity.
Swans is a must watch!
Love Candace's humanity and honesty.
The Black & White Ball seemed like such a magical and extravagant event. It's fascinating to see and hear about the memories and experiences of those who were there.
If you didn't know the rules you'd be eaten alive I would think.
Candice looks amazing ❤
Also, Capote's best Swan was Babe Paley, who's husband ran CBS!
Who is husband?
Yes but he betrayed her terribly and were never close again.
@@jamesmcinnis208William Paley. The head of CBS at that time.
The black and white sun at the end was gorgeous.
Frank is Ronan’s father. No one will ever convince me otherwise. They are a spitting image of each other
The eyes are Frank's for sure.
@@sarahalbers5555right?!
I agree!!
Exactly what I have ALWAYS thought!!!
Who cares?
I adore Candice Bergen.
Great piece and the FX Series is fabulous!
I wish we could have more Candice in our lives these days!! Movies!!
63:6 “Okay.” From Charles Kurault summed it all up. Tom Hollander is such a fantastic actor. Great news piece especially with Candace Bergen.
6:35
Would have liked to see more of her however. So fascinating
All those masks, it's like watching a real life episode of the 1966 Batman TV series.
But, honestly, did they have Candice Bergen come in for an interview about her experiences at the Ball and only use about three questions? I know time is money on TV, but all that work for barely a minute and a half? Oy.
That's what the interview was about. The ball, not her.
Yeah, you don't say 🙂But to go to the trouble of arranging the interview, going through hair, make-up and a visit with the stylist for 90 seconds? This could have been done over Zoom. Same information, less hassle. It's the CBS Sunday Morning equivalent of "this meeting could have been an e-mail".
Yes Batman fabulous
Hollander disappeared and Capote emerged. Very good ancting annd interpretation of this writer and an interesting movie. I enjoyed it.
I miss seeing that old glamour. It was beautiful.
Hearing Charles Kuralt's voice brings back a flood of memories.
I think the Met Gala would be the closest thing to the Black & White Ball.
Except, one pays to attend the met gala.
Tom Hollander is absolutely KILLING IT as Capote! His entire screen time is an epic mood! 🦢
I saw a brief glimpse of Gordon parks Sr at the end of this piece. Gordon was the first black photographer for life magazine. He also directed shaft. He was a Renaissance man.
His son directed superfly
Nice to see a couple of color at the party but it's based on interesting achievements as you said.
@@Afrocentricpoetcool thanks
And Truman invited people he was intrigued by creative people like Gordon...
Tom Hollander is so good in this role. ❤
Candice Bergen was one of my favorite celebrities that I worked with. Such a class act! Check her out in The Sand Pebbles. One of the most; beautiful, intelligent and strong women on the planet.
Capote based his “Black and White Ball” on a tenth-anniversary party given in 1964 by Mr. and Mrs. Dominick Dunne in Beverly Hills. The Dunnes were not invited to Capote’s ball.
I very much remember reading about the Black and White Ball in my small, hometown paper and later seeing the story and photos in Life magazine. It all seemed so exciting and the stuff dreams are made of. What struck me most was to read that many people who were not invited to Capote's party abandoned New York City and made sure that their publicists put out a press release that they had business elsewhere and couldn't possibly have attended the Ball even if they hadn't been invited.
From the clips I have seen in this piece and other places, Tom Hollander does a fantastic job as Capote. I can't wait to watch it.
You got to be a powerful figure to ever be there in the first place
But isn't this like the Met Gala?
That was my though...but perhaps not. The Met Gala is to hit rich people up for donations, so maybe it doesn't qualify as a party.
The Met Gala is always weird
I was thinking the same!
Yes, considering where the original inspiration of those masks come from, it's just like the Met Gala.
I think they mean one singular person couldn't throw a party like that now, and have it be that big of a deal. But yes, it's pretty much the Met .
I love this.... Very Breakfast at Tiffany's 🎉🥂🍹Candice Bergen I love her in Gandhi, Miss Congeniality & Sweet Home Alabama. Halston is epic too...I love his netflix biopic
I loved that Kuralt was over it at the end. The "ok" was priceless and hilarious.🤣However, come on, no matter what some people say, I see you Candice Bergen, people were dying to be invited by Capote. And being young and beautiful like Bergen was then, she knows darn well that she loved it. She was 19 or 20 years then, and people that young and being in that type of setting, would have been, yes overwhelmed, but jazzed as well. I would have loved to be at that Black & White Ball. That would have been a hoot for me. I've always said I was born in the wrong era (I'm the grunge era kid). It's the same way people like to be invited to the Met Ball, The Oscars, and The Governor's Ball afterwards...there's nothing wrong with liking glamorous events, just own up to it and have fun.🎉🎊
At 19 Candice was already rich and famous because she was a nepo baby.
Corny pretentiousness isn't "glamour".
@@terri6854 So what is?
Not everyone is enthralled by such nonsense.
@@timothyleon558 Yet here we all are watching this.😊
Candace Bergen got to wear the fur bunny ears because Marisa Berenson "found something better", but the irony is that the bunny ears looked 100% better than what Berenson wore!
Love the glamor of the 60s.
I was a mere slip of a girl then, but living just outside of NYC, I remember all the news programs and newspapers covering it. I was mostly pragmatic then and now and thought it was all very silly. I still think so. Candice looks terrific.
Money corrupts absolutely.
Toby Jones did a fantastic job portraying Truman in the movie Infamous.
candice bergen is lovely.
Is there a party like that now? Of course. It's called the Met Gala. Covered with the same breathless reportage of who was and wasn't there.
Not really. This was actually a private party with invitees chosen by Mr. Capote (suiting his personal agenda.) The Met Ball was for a long time a fairly exclusive fundraiser until Ms. Wintour turned it into a publicity op for vulgarity :(
@@AAZEDLARC Met Gala guest list is chosen by one person - Winter, it includes the most celebrated/influential people, it receives an enormous amount of attention. The Met Gala is the closest we have to the B&W Ball.
Tom Hollander does such an amazing job of transforming into Capote!
I read a short story written by Truman Capote called The Silver Jar. I loved it!
"Jug Of Silver"...............You're right. It's a magical little miniature.
Read Handcarved Coffins, it’s great.
@@alfandeddie I love the whole MUSIC FOR CHAMELEONS collection.
we are reviewing this because this world does not exist anymore. enjoying the fx feud program. i want to add that capote was an amazing writing
I’ve always wanted someone to produce a movie about the ball. Perhaps this is the only chance I’ll get.
There’s a lot about this event in George Plimpton’s book of interviews about Truman.
A lot of guests afterwards deemed it a bust; a bit embarassing that Truman was so anxious for it to be a success.
What did the Guest expect
The whole empty and vacuous nature of modern day celebrity may have actually started that evening. Rich snobs jockeying for their moment in the spotlight. Famous for being famous, if nothing else. So, thanks Truman. I would have felt the same way Kuralt did about the whole damn thing.
I love all of Mo Rocca's segments
11 years after this party, one of the greatest discoteques ever opened its doors in Manhattan. The guest list every night was exactly like Truman's party: Different categories of people from all walks of life mingling with each other. Its name was Studio 54.
Did that need explaining.??
Candice Bergen
Hollywood Royalty
Her Father a Must
Read Edger Bergen
Biography
Very Few Entertainers
Did Vaudeville
Broadway
Radio
Motion Pictures
and Television
Edgar Bergen
Has That Distinction
Good To See
Candice What a Joy
This party just never goes away. It’s the gold standard still after all these years. Weird / fascinating
more like the gold & black standard...
Wonderful piece of nutty history!
I love kuwalt he was such a throwback to a different time📝📕🖋️🗞️📰 That O.K at the end😂
"Do you think a party can happen today & get that kind of attention?" Bergen: "I hope not..." Me: * *cough* * Met Gala * *koff* *
The worst thing about Capote: he knew the occult nature of the New York bluebloods & still remained a fawning wannabe.
The whole thing sounds wonderful. Truman Capote is missed.
Tom Holland was IMPECCABLE!!!! all of the swans too the show is full of top tier performances
To get an idea of Capote's genius as a writer, keep in mind that he wrote A Christmas Memory when he was about 17, Other Voices Other Rooms at 24 and Breakfast at Tiffany's in his thirties. The Clutter murders occured in 1959, so he was just 35 when he embarked on this monumental project.
All that was written n a Biography
@@oneseeker2 Thanks genius
He wrote "A Christmas Memory" when he was 33; it was the last story in the BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S collection - published in 1958.
@@rbrookswilliams1689 Actually a a Christmas Memory was published in 1956 and Breakfast at Tiffany's was 1958. I could be wrong, but I think he _wrote_ A Christmas Memory much earlier. It's certainly set at about that age.
@@tetedepoulet8651As I understand it, Truman wrote "A Christmas Memory" in '56 - and sent it in to MADEMOISELLE magazine. It was then included in the BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S collection, which compiled the title novella, and the short stories "House Of Flowers", "A Diamond Guitar" and ACM..........In '63, ACM was part of THE SELECTED WRITINGS OF TRUMAN CAPOTE; and in '66, it came out as a stand-alone booklet..............Have you read Truman's other holiday miniature masterpieces - "The Thanksgiving Visitor" and "One Christmas"?
And yet, if you are in love with his books, his stories, and yes, even his own story that includes the B&W ball, you have to feel grateful. He gave us huge literary and social drama. What's Tru up to lately? Just turn on the TV or read the Post, and best of all, read "Breakfast At Tiffany's" and the best bestseller I've ever had the pleasure to devour: "In Cold Blood." It stands today, IMO, as the greatest true crime book of all time...well, maybe "The Stranger Beside Me" is all that, too, not to downplay the great great Ann Rule. In any case, Tru's "swans" were far more fascinating than today's so-called "influencers", most of whom have next to no taste.
I am 💯 aligned with your perspectives. He left us wanting more from him, but in his shortened life - the literary productivity of which stopped in his forties - he left us treasures and unforgettable stories. And here we are 58 years later talking about his Black and White Ball.
Lol I love the paper plate mask 4:02
I enjoy reading anything about Truman Capote. I will watch this series too.
We held black & white balls at the Arthur Murray Studio where I worked. Perhaps the studio owners were inspired by Capote. The Aubrey Beardsley style print kaftan dresses were popular with the women.
Today, in 2024, you don't have to be rich to throw a dress up party. Candice may not be there but all your friends would enjoy it.
I was astounded a while back to listen to Tom Hollander on an audiobook of JK Rowling's "A Casual Vacancy" and hear what he could do with his voice. It's no surprise that his Truman Capote is perfect!
And he's a Brit. Pulled it off!
There is an irony about the Ball: Capote chose Katherine Graham as the "guest of honor" as a way of being snarky to all his New York City "swans", but time (and history) proved him right: It was as the owner and publisher of The Washington Post that "Kay" Graham decided to publish the Pentagon Papers, and to allow the investigative reporting of Bernstein and Woodward to uncover the Watergate break-in. The reason it's ironic is that this would have been furthest from Capote's mind when he decided to have "Kay" Graham as the guest of honor, in other words, he didn't choose her because of what would be her historical significance, but simply as a rebuke to New York City high society.
Love every thing you do, Mo.
Also big ups to Mr Kuralt! Miss seeing him on PBS as a kid. A bygone era. But aren’t they all??
...met gala anyone?
She said, "I hope not" but the Met Gala is basically the same thing !!!
The people in the ball was upper class,in the Met only celebrities
An entirely different time. An entirely different place. An entirely different world.
Really? I find it very similar to the rich and famous “elite” of today. I would argue things have only gotten worse.
purportedly, one of the few exceptions to the list of denied lobbiers, was tallulah bankhead: he politely lied and told her her invitation must've been lost in the mail, and delivered a "new" one to her. she had a great time. i think candice bergen's bunny mask was donated to the museum of the city of new york.
Imagine throwing a party in New York City during her lifetime and not inviting Tallulah! It doesn’t surprise me one bit that she enjoyed herself. She loved having an audience, paying or otherwise.
Wonderful piece! Darkness and light...
I'm far more interested in who turned down the invitation to the party. Because somebody(s) did. ;-p
Truman capote was a brilliant writer and a lot of fun in his life. His swans should have realized that writers draw on their experiences so cote basque story , brilliant , was inevitable
Of the swans only cz guest wasn't surprised.
“Okay”
what a missed opportunity - interviews could have been done with mia farrow, jacqueline de ribes, marisa berenson ?? or a little more substance to legend candice bergen - 2 minutes spent is hardly cause to proclaim it a piece on the ball - i think you would find a myriad of people who know much more about this event - the historians of the plaza hotel? the scrambled eggs served at midnight? where are the clothes are now? cornelia guest must have spoken to her mother about it - so much more than a man in a trench coat !