Geoffrey Jackson and the Belt of Truth
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- In a newly released "morning worship" video, Governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson dips into his family history to remind Jehovah's Witnesses of the need to keep the "belt of truth" tight when encountering critics.
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I was brought up as a JW and later disfellowshipped as a wicked homosexual...but one thing has always stuck in my memory. It must have been around the early 1970s and at a circuit assembly, the circuit overseer was giving a talk from the platform and clearly stated: " If Armageddon has not come by December 31st 1975, we know we have not got the truth!"
So, was he disfellowshipped on January 1st 1976? Lol
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Philip Black,
You were disfellowshipped for being a "wicked homosexual". That's just too bad for the JWs, because the wicked homosexuals are the most fun kind of homosexuals to be around. I wonder if that Circuit Overseer who claimed at that Circuit Assembly in the 1970s, that if Armageddon didn't occur by December 31st, 1975, then that meant the JWs didn't have the truth -- if he is still alive, is he still a Witness? If so, isn't he supposed to be stoned with rocks for making a false prediction? Not that I want anyone getting hurt of course, but isn't that is what is supposed to happen to false prophets according to the Old Testament?
Thank goodness you got out!
I wonder how many others hearing that talk all those years ago thought about that when 1975 came and went.
I'm all set, I got the belt of truth, the socks of virtue, the panties of courage and the slippers of honesty.
the shirt of chivalry, the bra of purpose, the hanky of transparcy and the navy singlet of casualty.
Sounds like your DM had some sort of weird fetish thing going on.
If you had the Merkin of Fortune you would be unstoppable.
@@tleevz1 haaaaaaaaa!!!
Good one! 😂 Better to get the Belt of Freedom I would say!
If it was really "the truth", they would not have to keep revising it with their "new light"
I was shunned at 15 and thrown to the streets. My “Mother” till this day says I left and Jehovah comes first. There is nothing good about this cult.
People accuse JW’s of Horrific things because there are some that have done Horrific things and the organization chooses to keep protecting them. That’s the horrific truth
That’s horrific
@@joegonzalez842 😂
Don't do tight pants but do tight belts.... got it.
The more the criticisms are true, relevant, and logical, the more Geoffrey has to tighten his belt of "truth" to stop his ears. Watch out Geoffrey, take a breath, you're turning all red, your belt has become a big tourniquet.
So when given the opportunity for Jackson to share what convinced him he had the truth, it was not the Bible itself, but some Watchtower articles from the 1950's?
Point taken.
Damn that’s a strong point
Yes, and like every JW started studying, wasnt from bilble, but from books that from time to time some paragraphs are SUPORTED by the bible, not THE OTHER WAY ARROUND LIKE IS SUPPOSE TO BE
Just hearing Geoffrey speak i can feel the indoctrination flowing through me.
HOT!
@@jonsixtythree Very!
Lol Yea
you like that?
@@unclejovan1913 I love spiritual gaslighting don't you?
A lot of thanks to you Lloyd.
My own favourite book was "You can Live Forever" However, the book woke me up when "this generation..." exposed their lies in the late eighties after the death of all those that witnessed 1914. The shameless "new light" of 'overlapping generation' was terribly disgusting to bear and I left finally immediately. Geoffrey's "belt of truth" wasn't on in ARC when he lied too. Love your brilliant videos Lloyd!
Strange you can get labelled an apostate for saying "overlapping generations" is stupid. We can't be like the ancient Bereans anymore? Millions that were living are now long dead which means Jesus didn't see the drunk Rutherford's days in county jail as fulfilling bible prophesy? say it's not so. G Jackson's ARC statement at first surprised me but the more I thought about it the more angry I became. No free parking space would really piss me off.
@@rockpadstudios I'll bet you'd get DF'd for saying Geoff Jackson has an overlapping gut over the belt of truth 😂
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The Governing Body's worst enemy is its own literature.
So true.
@@LloydEvans I helped burning literature at the KH back in my days. Old light, brand new books, boxes of them and we took them to get burn... that was the Local Bethel instruction.
@@danoldsbb4558 We did the same in NZ too about 1982. But the 'old light' books had to get sent back to the branch and the others were placed cheap or dumped.
@@petertocher6845 we were told not to dump them so Jehova Literature was notnto be found on a Dumpster and drag the jehova name through the mud, we were instructed to burn them. Amazing...
@@danoldsbb4558 We were probably told that too but, being a little congregation on an island, the brothers kind of did things their own way !
Another insightful video. Thank you Lloyd.
One of the books that I studied as a child was The secret to family happiness, one the promises they made, except they are responsible for breaking my family.
Yes the irony. Sorry about your family though btw that sucks :(
I find this ironic bc wasn't it Jackson who told the ARC "it would be presumptuous to say that WT is the only true religion on earth"....if he was confident it is the truth he would have told the ARC a big YES
And that was not the only lie they told to. the arc.
Exactly his belt must have came lose so Satan slipped into his pant and that's what made him lie.
We were always pride to be referred to as having the Truth how times have changed
The rank and file witnesses are to be faithful and true in the face of opposition even to death
like the brothers in world war two concentration camps and more recently the brothers in Mali
yet when asked if he had the only true religion he set the fine example for the rest of us by saying that would be Presumptuous when asked and was unable to stand firm in the face of that small Opposition !
@@louispierre154 They are like King David. Send the foot soldiers to face the music on the frontline while they live light and weigh heavy, at the same time looking for every opportunity to photo up.
to clarify he said it would be presumptuous to say they the gb were the only spokesperson for jehovah god
Geoffrey Jackson has written 2 books titled "I'M NOT FAT, BUT YOU ARE" and the sequel "MY CARDIOLOGIST THINKS I'M CUDDLY"
Jeffrey Jackson I really want to hear the truth in stead of your cardiologist saying you are cuddling ,
The book of your 8 men, or organization,
Said: in page 135. To 136.
Paragraph 4.
You bring out the scripture
Ezekiel 21: 27.
That this scripture has already happened in A.D. 29.
David descendants seed is Jesus Christ. There’s no peace, or security, yet,
And Salomon throne did. Not to appear everlasting.!
Because Ezekiel 21: 27. Is speaking of Christ, there many scriptures, one is in the book of
Psalms. 89 : 34- 36. Verse 35.
Once I have sworn in my holiness, to David,” I will not tell lies.”
Verse 36.
His seed itself will prove to be even to time indefinite.”
And his throne as the sun in front of me.”
Yes Christ will be sent again to the inhabited
earth , Hebrew 1 : 6.
Revelation 22 : 7.
So Jeffrey Ezekiel has not been. Fulfilled.
We hunger for. Truth.
And people will get it from the Bible.
Not from mere men.”
Sorry forgot to place the book name : Let God Be True.” The Revised one of April 1, 1952.
I think the first book Let God Be True. Was printed in year of 1946 by watchtower Bible track Society.
What bothers me the most is that he appealing to the emotions of his listeners by repeatedly referring to his "mother" and what convinced "her" of the "truth", in doing so convincing his audience that it's in their best interests to follow the religion of their JW parents! Ironically, when preaching to people as a JW we discouraged those who just followed the religion of their parents & grandparents without ever investigating the evidence!?!?! This is the craziest talk I've heard! He also sounded quite shakey at times! The TRUTH is being exposed! Thank God! Hopefully my children & grandchildren will soon wake up! And the Org is running scared! 💕🙏💕
Thankyou Loyd. Deeply appreciate your research, honesty & devotion to shedding light on such empty speeches & exposing the harm & hypocrisy of this organisation.
Thanks so much for the positivity and encouragement Frances!
Thanks again Lloyd for all of your hard work and for sharing with all of us!
You know it’s gonna be entertaining when Mr. Magoo steps up to the mike.
"Tightening the Belt of Truth" sounds like something someone deranged would do by tightening a belt around someone's neck. Oddly fits more more as a metaphor for this religious group in a way.
The Leash of Lies, so to speak.
Heard that same belt allocation in an evangelic setting, they even steal from eac other lol
i was born at the time this brown book was released:))) and i read both the brown and the green version…looking back on decades of warnings that the end is just around the corner…
Questo angolo e cosi lungo che non si arriva mai da l'altro lato ,da questo si comprende che l'informazione è falsa .da L'ITALIA
The thing you said about how every religious person believe that they have found the truth, is exactly the thought process that made me break free from "the truth", when I was a teenager. I remember feeling so confused as to why no other JW I knew seemed to be thinking the same thing.
Haha you weren't alone I always thought that
"What convinced me this was the truth?"
Well back when 911 happened and everyone was convinced that was leading to Armageddon and my mom told me I was going to die but she had made peace with it because she had waited so long for paradise and she was ready so she was going to be faithful without me. That scared the shit out of me at 19 and I had never seen anything so bad hit close to home so I was convinced it must be bivle prophecy coming true. Sadly the things that happened in the 17 years after that were so bad that it convinced me it couldn't be true and that it was just people's fear being played upon and there were too many things wrong with the organization and the Bible itself and too many unanswered prayers that it convinced me it wasn't. I can't just go back and cling to something that was a fear tactic to begin with and convince myself of a lie. Try again Geoffrey.
I remember seeing a full house at the hall not long after 9/11 as well. People returning who I hadn't seen for years, and some I didn't know. Now they can barely fill one section at my old KH and they actually have girls running the mics (I hear)
How scandalous. Girls holding a Mike.
@@henrydejong8448 I hope they have their submissive head coverings bc heaven forbid they have exposed noggins for the simple task of running a microphone up and down an aisle. That would be HIGHLY offensive to God. 🙄🤣
I think the reason why witnesses get angry when they see your videos is because they're fearful that what you say is right. Fear often displays as anger and your words cause them disequilibrium...
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All religions make the same claim, "My religion is the best."
Wasn’t Geoffrey Jackson one of the lesser known Three Stooges?
“Hey Moe, I got my Truth Belt caught in the meat grinder!”
Lmao 🤣
It seems to me he is relying on emotion rather than logic.
There is no “truth” there is only “current understanding.” It can’t be said the the witnesses ever had the “Truth” because from there own mouth all doctrines have changed and continue to change. The truth doesn’t change.
Very well put, those older books are all rewritten to fit the watchtowers teachings, which is not the same as the original versions, great video thanks for sharing,
Geoffrey Jackson in a mediaeval torture chamber, standing over some poor wretch... 'It is The Truth, isn't it? Isn't it? Just say yes. Or should I tighten the Belt of Truth another notch? Do you want me to do that?'
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😅😂🤣
Lol.
He was wearing that belt of truth when he told the australian royal commission that saying the governing body are God's only representatives on earth would be "rather presumptious". Apart from that though, he isn't too fond of wearing it.
I was thinking the exact same thing 😁
Woo nice got something to watch during lunch
I am on South Africa, it's 21:00
Good question. What lead to my mother wanting to be a witness? Fear of the 1975 Armageddon when she was in a vulnerable state: pregnant with her first child yours truly, me.
Is fear a good basis for truth?
And here I was thinking that it was a bible that would convince the JWs that they have the truth.
Notice he never said anything about his mom being convinced of the truth because of what is being taught in the Bible.
-- Geoffrey Jackson is referring to Ephesians 6:14 ~ _"Stand firm then, with _*_the BELT OF TRUTH_*_ buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,"_
The thing is He has no moral authority to preach about truth. He lied under oath to the Australia Royal Commission. He denied their very own Jehovah.
@@cherylseebreth328 E da questo che si comprende quanto siano falsi ,Gesu e morto per la verita ,questi sono i falsi profeti degli ultimi tempi, e accertato con l 'onu e la pedofilia in Australia.
Looking forward to his.I have my coffee ,and donuts ready too👍
Basically Jackson on behalf of his friends is saying "Trust us". Now why do I keep seeing marching hammers in my head?
That's because you maybe listend and/or did watch*the wall" from pink floyd to many times, my friend. But if that is so, you probably got a good taste of music😜😂😂
Because you saw The Wall of Pink Floyd too many times. You Floydey you!
@@postculthygge of course🤘
@@postculthygge Can never listen to or watch The Wall too many times😀
Good to see other Floyd fans here!
The Belt of Truth, when enough pressure is applied, just becomes a Tourniquet for your Mind.
So true! 😂
Brother T-bor should be a ministerial servant by now
You are right 100% Truth, scrutiny is basic to truth. Christian Comedian has videos with various JW and when they are confronted with facts they run..............
Sorry Geoffrey was unable to find his belt of truth so he settled for the suspenders of ignorance, For which he wears tightly.
He basically just said don't listen to people who don't believe what we believe
In other words, recruit recruit recruit. We have suits and cases to settle.
Tibor being extra gracious today !!
He did fixed in a belt because Ephesians 6:14, clearly. Not because a random illustration.
@Greg LeJacques The point is that you have to correctly represent what's going on, G.J. he's talking about a tight belt, not because it's an illustration he came up with, but a bible verse that's also an illustration. which I understand, is not being recognized. that's what I'm talking about... Also, "the random bible"?
These GB boys are good with word semantics
Better to get the Running Shoes of Freedom!
To avoid confirmation bias I type the word “debunked” after a topic I have an opinion about. It can be any topic! At times I have changed my opinion. Other times I have not. It’s a fun exercise!
At 27:14... didn't Jackson testify to the Australian Royal Commission that "it would be presumptuous to think that they are the only true religion"?
He testified it would be presumptuous to say that the GB are Jehovah God's only channel of communication on earth.
And his words were presented to be his own mistake and NOT as a governing body member, they eventually came up with the position that unless they’re all 8 in number individually they’re no longer governing body.😂😂😂😂behold new light to witnesses!
@@pamelaruth7400 that was the only time he actually said the Truth, knowing they’ve been lying all along.
He always looks , self satisfied and smug !! Except when he was in front of the Aussie Commission , where he looked decidedly uncomfortable !
They should move to politics …..using same strategies as politicians use . Crazy cult
belt of governing body slavery
Gawd, these 🐍 🐍 make me very annoyed with all the nonsensical BS and twisting and turning things. Why can’t the JWs see that. I know they’re brainwashed. But still so sad to waste your life ( and money ) believing these charlatans. 🤬
Another great video, Lloyd 🌸
I came across that talk in the app. As I watched it, it was so comical. He of all people talking about the "lies" spread around.
Yet, he is the very one spreading lies. And of course his famous appearance in Australia.
Plus, Geoffrey is essentially telling people to go "🙉 lalala I can't hear you!"
Sounds more like the earplugs of deafness instead of the belt of truth.
Lloyd, He's using the belt as a modern version of "loins girded with the truth" from the Armor of God metaphor in the bible. What drew me to the religion to begin with was the threat of Armageddon coming in 1975. Of course, when it didn't come, I was already hooked into the cult, so it took another 20 years to escape. So I hope the J-Dubs actually do this exercise - it would only help them wake up.
OMFG I used to make fun of the clothes illustrations they had when I was in the truth. It was so stupid!
How could Geoffrey’s wife ask if he couldn’t get a better copy if the book is out of print and would not even be available to the average JW. I’m sure majority of the teachings in that book would be obsolete. It’s very dishonest of the JWs to be referencing these books yet the “truth” from those books aren’t the “truth” currently.
Maybe they're still in print but only for certain elite members, GB, helpers etc . .
Geoffrey's wife not very smart in my opinion. Most very old , used books are of great value
I’m my case it was the ignorance of youth and the faith I had in those that i thought were older and wiser that “convinced me it was the truth.” Now that I am the same age of the men I looked to for direction I realized they had no idea what they were talking about.
You will know them by their fruits!💯💯
I have the first edition let God be true like what Lloyd Evans has I found it in his Arc store or a thrift store
Ok I’m only 2.38 minutes into this and already thinking that the belt of “ truth” is far too tight stopping the blood flow to their brains so yes of course go ahead and make it tighter lol
Good analogy Lloyd. Jw's are like engineers they don't make mistakes just revisions.
Notice he never tells you what the truth TRULY IS, he leaves it to “remember what convinced you”. Truly shows the desperation and lack of truth this cult truly has which is none! On a side note, why don’t the JW’s print on the front page of EVERY watchtower, we have the ONLY 8 men on earth who are gods spoke people? Wouldn’t that draw people in? Anyway, like ALWAYS lloyd, another excellent rebuttal!!
It also sounds like a sadistic form of punishment by religious extremist parents.
I couldn't help but to think of Wonder Woman's lasso of truth!
Geoffrey Jackson presupposes the claims of the Bible are "true", ignoring all other religious texts, then asserts that if one studies the Bible that they're realize that being punished by God to burn in a lake of fire for all eternity in the afterlife is a "false doctrine". Tell that to all the people who've read the Bible that have become fundamentalist Christians and have come to embrace the doctrine of Hell as a literal lake of fire and brimstone. Do I think the Bible promotes this concept? From what I know of Biblical scholarship, I would say no. However, I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in any of it. I don't care if someone believes in eternal Hellfire as a punishment that is bestowed upon one for their unapologetic "sins" or not. I have no reason to believe that any of it is true.
If one can understand the meanings of the Bible just from reading it themselves, then why would anyone have to become a Jehovah's Witness, Geoffrey Jackson? Also, why should I care what the Bible says or doesn't say about anything, even if the claims of the text were true? At the end of the day, those Biblical authors' statements are just their opinions, which ones has to evaluate to see whether or not they agree with those opinions or ideas. At the end of the day, God's pronouncements would still be just his opinion, and I'd have to evaluate his opinions to see whether or not I think they're logical, reasonable or moral.
You then claim, Geoffrey, that a Witness should accept that the Watchtower Society has the "truth", and no further questioning is needed. I thought the truth could stand up to scrutiny. If your theological claims re true, then why can't they be questioned? What are you afraid of? Did you not claim that it would be "presumptuous" to assume that only the Governing Body can speak for God out of all the religious leaders in the world at the Australian Royal Commission? So technically, you lied in court. Is that not a "sin" according to Christian theology, or is lying only a "sin" when you decide that it's a "sin"?
Hmm food for thought 💭
At 36:02 Geoffrey talks about the book of Isaiah wich says according to him that we must be sure that what we believe is based on the bible. But the word bible is nowhere found in the bible. The bible is not a book but a collection of different books
When talking about geography, you left one geographical area out Lloyd. Northern Hemisphere of Europe you would be born into "Atheistic parents". Scandinavian and Northern countries are not really religious and in fact leading towards Atheism.
Sorry about your Airbnb experience I do like that illustration though. I’m stealing that from you for my epistemology
I wear the Tea Cosy of Comfort
Jackson must have been wearing his suspenders/braces of lies, during the Australian R.C.
What was it that drew me to the witnesses versus what do I know now?
The belt of truth ... the suspenders/braces of hope ... and the garters of love?
Suspenders....omg I'm seeing uncle Tony with his golden suspenders 🤣😂🤣😂
Lloyd bro, I don't know how you sit in the bunker with all that JW crap. Love ya work.
New improved JW belt of truth with added elastic and adjustable buckles.
Version 3 comes with GŐTT MITT AUS, and a nice skull buckle.
It's called "GOTT MIT UNS" trust me i'm german
@@michaelkrick1806 thanks for the correction, was trying to do it from memory.
Not to defend JW but the “belt of truth” phrase is from the New Testament, he’s not just making that up. The people he’s talking to would understand the reference.
Belt of truth, armor of God etc. Eph 6:15. They all use it, also evangelical and right wing cults.
@@akehapkap6143 yes that’s correct. I’m not a believer but I’m rather sympathetic to the worldview of some of what you probably would consider right-wing or evangelical ‘cults’. I was raised in a fundamentalist evangelical environment and the lessons and impact on my life were overwhelmingly positive, and the people were mostly sincere and kind. What turns me off to JW is their demand for unquestioning obedience to church leaders, and the shunning that happens and destroys families when people leave the organization.
Ottima disamina del discorso "dell'eletto" Jackson. Che ci sia qualcosa di sospetto nelle dottrine della WTS visto che Geoffrey dice ai suoi seguaci che non devono fare ricerche su quello che dicono chi le mette in discussione? Meditate TdG, meditate! Grazie Lloyd per il bel video.
girding my mantles now.
Many fine thoughts, Lloyd. Re: only one true religion, is this a "Christian" thing? I understand people in far east can adhere to several religions at the same time; there is no competition but different perspectives. Perhaps I learned this from one of your interviews of a JW missionary.
I think it is a factor for monotheism, if only one God then either am worshipping the one true God or I am not. Assuming I am then all others are wrong by simple logic. Faiths ike Hinduism that have multiple avatars of the supreme being, are open to accept other avatars such as Jesus or Muhammad.
Tight pants Tony would approve of this illustration lol
There was also the great purge. A few years back the society told all members of the congregation that they should throw away all old books and bound volumes. Just throw them in the trash, no need to keep a theocratic library. Hah lol, now I'm beginning to see why.
2:22 What about if you are "born into the truth" and baptized when still a child?
It’s funny how that watchtower issue he used also had an article about how bad groupthink and mind control is.
If people are angry with your messages then there is truth in your message. Hopefully they will reflect sometime and think for themself and realize that a jw life was a waste of time. Jackson says it itself, everytime they change the teachings, so JW always get new things to keep the lie continued..
I wonder when JWs are starting their preaching work in Iran, Saudi Arabia or North Korea. What's so difficult to understand, when Paul wrote: "In this way, indeed, I made it my aim not to declare the good news where Christ had already been named, in order that I might not be building on another man's foundation; but, just as it is written: 'Those to whom no announcement has been made about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand.'"" (Romans 15:20, 21) Since more than 140 years the International Bible Students and Jehovah's Witnesses try to convince Christians around the globe to be Christians - it's absurd!
Oh good bejeezus 🤣😂, the story about the haystack, finding the truth, wow but wow, 😳 the same reasoning as the late 1950s early 1960's omg !!! I'm bloody old, 😂 I remember that reasoning !!!
Without further a do, let's roll the first clip 🤨
With GB getting old who do you believe my be the next appointed to GB?
Robert Hendricks , possibly ?
Paul Gillies the gag a minute Scotsman!
What would you say to a JW who’s says the end days is taking so long because 1 day can be equivalent to hundreds of years? Or similar responses?
"Couldn't someone have made the same excuse in the 15th Century, 16th Century, 17th Century and so on? At what point do you grow up, stop making excuses and accept that the thing you predicted for decades to happen isn't happening?"
I would say that that makes a lie of Jesus’ words when he said ‘the generation will be no means pass away.’ They can jump around all they want with a ‘day for a year’ but even their own new overlapping generations doesn’t give them hundreds of years to play with. It’s the simplest and most obvious rebuttal of their position. You can’t have it ‘just around the corner’ while also suggesting there is some poetic licence with Jesus own words.
@@redastair
Jesus was speaking of the descent of the Holy Spirit upon His people. JWs have twisted it to mean the "end of days" which is not what Jesus speaking about.
Me gustaria saber la escritura para la generacion traslapada, si alguien la sabe pudieran decirme donde esta?🤣
"GOD'S KINGDOM RULES"
"EL REINO DE DIOS GOBIERNA"
Not part of their blood sacrifices anymore thank God and his son Christ Jesus Amen
Two words people. “New light”. They can always claim they weren’t ready for the proper light because god only reveals things at his time. It’s the perfect scam
I think it is referring subconsciously that Warwick has to tighten their belts, firing bethelites and selling out properties.
Coloca legenda
My gosh the local METHODISTS!!! 😮 as a descendant of Methodists (NOT a cult and about as mainstream American as apple pie and baseball), this made me giggle.
Is the belt of truth similar to wonder woman's lasso of truth? Hhmmm
Well Jeffrey Jackson you certainly need a bigger belt than most . When I was in the so called truth it made me realise this is not the truth actions speak louder than words the way they behave is not Christian.
The belt of truth sounds like a BDSM toy.