Radius of convergence using Ratio Test

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Komentáře • 80

  • @minecraftion25565
    @minecraftion25565 Před 7 lety +233

    I could've gotten this information in 135 minutes-worth of lessons, but I got it in 7 minutes on Khan Academy (in a way that I can actually understand). Man, I love Khan Academy. It's the only reason I'm passing my calculus class.

  • @mrslovvet
    @mrslovvet Před 9 lety +230

    Not that it really matters, but in the yellow line at the top where you expanded the series, the third term has a 4 in the denominator when it should have a 3 (n = 3).
    Otherwise, awesome video! These really help me study for my midterm.

    • @jasonvegan5761
      @jasonvegan5761 Před 9 lety +18

      Yea, the series wasn't expanded correctly but I think most people probably noticed the error so no big deal

    • @raycooper1943
      @raycooper1943 Před 8 lety +3

      +Jason Owen Yes, it was noticed, and it is not a big deal.

    • @sudiptoghosh5740
      @sudiptoghosh5740 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes it is quite conspicuous

    • @frettchen1498
      @frettchen1498 Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks! I was really confused at first

  • @sathvikswaminathan7933
    @sathvikswaminathan7933 Před 4 lety +18

    the values x=4 and x=-4 also need to be checked since at those values, the ratio test in inconclusive but by the p series and alternating series test, it can be proved that at these two values, the series converges. Therefore x belongs to [-4,4] and not (-4,4)

  • @zsolttildy5742
    @zsolttildy5742 Před 7 lety +37

    tryna do the question and the same time as sal and lowkey beat him then he starts pulling out the copy paste function and you know its game over smh sal

  • @masonbanas9864
    @masonbanas9864 Před 4 lety +6

    Khan Academy, I can't thank you enough for making something so hard to understand in class so easy to understand from you. What you do is beyond appreciated, please never stop doing what you do my guy.

  • @manuelhernandaz2147
    @manuelhernandaz2147 Před 6 lety +5

    I just want to say thank you for doing these comprehensive videos. My calculous teacher just can’t seem to explain it so it clicks, your really helping me save my grade and learn. Thank you

  • @magicguy1988
    @magicguy1988 Před 9 lety +63

    Technically you need to check x=4 and x= -4 for convergence since the ratio test yields no conclusion when L=1

    • @yongbowang1444
      @yongbowang1444 Před 7 lety +2

      Agree

    • @paulyu7739
      @paulyu7739 Před 6 lety

      Exactly

    • @nolanison6642
      @nolanison6642 Před 6 lety +4

      You plug those points in for x and solve that particular series for convergence.

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl Před 5 lety +2

      Yep that's right. In this case both endpoints converge by the p-series test

  • @krazywyatt2638
    @krazywyatt2638 Před 6 lety +6

    Thanks man, you're a great teacher!

  • @cortisol_induced_coma
    @cortisol_induced_coma Před 2 lety +1

    I wish all professors could explain things as simply as you

  • @thedarkgenious7967
    @thedarkgenious7967 Před 4 lety +4

    thanks. My calc 2 professor went on for 4 hours of drawn out rambling over 2 lectures trying to teach us what the radius of convergence/interval of convergence was and how to find them. I learned more in this 7 minute video than those lectures.

  • @sandeepchoudhary4065
    @sandeepchoudhary4065 Před 5 lety +2

    you my friend are a life saver
    Thank you so much.

  • @kazlee6909
    @kazlee6909 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Ryan Maccombs!! Good video as always :)

  • @shreeramaashokaadakoli6784

    You're awesome sir Sal thanks a lot

  • @luciazazel2683
    @luciazazel2683 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for doing what you do!

  • @edrinabenes9754
    @edrinabenes9754 Před 8 lety +15

    when n=3, isn't the second term of the denominator 3^4?

  • @Copybook
    @Copybook Před 2 lety

    I can't imagine life without Khan Academy

  • @hurrdurr25
    @hurrdurr25 Před 8 lety +24

    but you didn't check the endpoints

    • @epicgamermoments4900
      @epicgamermoments4900 Před 4 lety

      As far as I'm aware, the endpoints don't affect the radius of convergence. The radius is the same whether defined as (a-R, a+R) or [a-R, a+R]

    • @priyanshmehta9988
      @priyanshmehta9988 Před 3 lety +1

      @@epicgamermoments4900 Yeah, it doesn't affect the radius of convergence, but he has to check that for interval of convergence

  • @mazahiranjum175
    @mazahiranjum175 Před 6 lety

    Thanks a lot Khan academy

  • @cookiesizYumaah
    @cookiesizYumaah Před 5 lety

    Thank you! Great work!

  • @aiicwyt6768
    @aiicwyt6768 Před 6 lety

    Shoutout to Mr. Achille’s class!

  • @cristianferretty6971
    @cristianferretty6971 Před 8 lety

    thank you so much man, seriously.

  • @m.sripadh4338
    @m.sripadh4338 Před 5 lety

    will you please tell me the software name which you are using?

  • @Grassmpl
    @Grassmpl Před 5 lety

    BOTH of what you boxed were the interval of convergence. The radius of convergence is the number 4 itself. Half the interval length

  • @nihalgupta5009
    @nihalgupta5009 Před 7 lety

    sir,which software is this?

  • @ZephyrCheez
    @ZephyrCheez Před 3 lety +2

    You made a mistake in the beginning, the third one should have 4^3 * 3^4, since n is equal to 3 in that scenario

  • @ansarsultan
    @ansarsultan Před 3 lety +1

    thank u very very very very much

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling Před 8 lety +3

    Is it accurate to state?: "For arithmetic series, the *difference* between consecutive terms is constant. For geometric series, the *ratio* between consecutive terms is constant."

  • @echessbee
    @echessbee Před 6 lety

    Brilliant!

  • @zhangdingkang781
    @zhangdingkang781 Před 8 lety

    Thank you!

  • @Vathanaization
    @Vathanaization Před 7 lety

    Thank you so much

  • @nosirrahonline1225
    @nosirrahonline1225 Před 2 lety

    Thank you

  • @bowenjudd1028
    @bowenjudd1028 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm in foundations and we defined R = 1/lim sup |c|^1/k

  • @Redblade15
    @Redblade15 Před 8 lety

    thank you

  • @mahimakalani2647
    @mahimakalani2647 Před 2 lety

    Thank you is all I wish to say...

  • @titusadams5288
    @titusadams5288 Před 9 lety

    thank you!!

  • @musahamza5829
    @musahamza5829 Před 8 lety

    Thanks a lot. . .

  • @plasma8321
    @plasma8321 Před 3 lety

    what if its, the ones that gives you more than one number?

  • @babingurung255
    @babingurung255 Před 8 lety

    Beautiful

  • @froh_do4431
    @froh_do4431 Před 3 lety

    how we are going to know that something has to be < 1 for convergence at 6:00? Is that a more complicated statement to show at this moment?

    • @tylerdee7529
      @tylerdee7529 Před 3 lety

      The Ratio test says that as long as the limit to infinity of the ratio is less than 1, it converges. After simplifying the limit of the ratio, we are left with an x-term. So basically the function converges if this x-term is less than 1

  • @MrBoriskaful
    @MrBoriskaful Před 7 lety +6

    HOW CAN I KNOW WHICH TEST I SHOULD APPLY WHEN I SEE THE QUESTION I AM GOING CRAZY AHHHH

  • @michaelfjmusic
    @michaelfjmusic Před 5 lety +1

    Extremely helpful video, but I don't understand why he was able to simplify (n + 1)^4 so easily? It just seems too good to be true and I don't fully understand it.

    • @annie_adler
      @annie_adler Před 5 lety

      Michael Judd actually, you don't need to expand it in full. As the video shows, the only thing you need to know about (n-1)^4 is that its term with the highest order is n^4. That's enough for you to simplify the limits.

  • @ivideos7348
    @ivideos7348 Před 3 lety

    Thanks !

  • @alexwhetstone4464
    @alexwhetstone4464 Před rokem

    thankyou

  • @whoisbobby3
    @whoisbobby3 Před 8 lety +4

    N=3 is wrong

  • @priyanshu715
    @priyanshu715 Před 4 lety +1

    1:40 the third terms is wrong (silly mistake)

  • @arealhumanbeann
    @arealhumanbeann Před 4 lety

    just exactly what i need lmao

  • @BROBOTwithhope
    @BROBOTwithhope Před 7 lety

    wrong im pretty sure, or he made an error in the middle and fixed it later somehow

  • @jackzheng8535
    @jackzheng8535 Před rokem

    you are king

  • @nishasingh-yu6ln
    @nishasingh-yu6ln Před 6 lety +1

    but sir what about at point x =4 and x=-4 ...we have to check at end points.....

    • @harrisonbellis8178
      @harrisonbellis8178 Před 6 lety

      I haven't had lectures on this yet but intuitively I guess you should put x=4 into the expression for the general term of the summation to get a P-series which in this case gives 4/n^4 or 4 times the sum of 1/n^4 which is a convergent P series.

    • @candykiss024
      @candykiss024 Před 6 lety

      Yeah, all you do is plug it back in and use some tests to see if it converges or not

  • @jacklazzaro9820
    @jacklazzaro9820 Před 3 lety +1

    0:59 That’s wrong. It’s 4^3 * 3^4.

  • @curtpiazza1688
    @curtpiazza1688 Před rokem

    Great ! 😊

  • @1Naif
    @1Naif Před 7 lety

    Awesome

  • @drmichaelsunsschoolformath

    At the start when you say x=1,2,3.. u mean n=1,2,3...

  • @real_john_doe
    @real_john_doe Před 6 lety +1

    The fact that he missed n=3 in the denominator in the very beginning makes absolutely no difference here. Stop nitpicking.

  • @freyappari
    @freyappari Před 2 měsíci

    W explanation

  • @HowViolet
    @HowViolet Před rokem

    I never listen to lectures anymore... and my grades couldn't be better.... is that bad lol?!

  • @rintumondal5658
    @rintumondal5658 Před rokem

    Oh ho ;)

  • @jinglemich4941
    @jinglemich4941 Před 5 lety

    Let's say...

  • @thenozar7603
    @thenozar7603 Před 7 lety +3

    n=1, n=2, n=4? Someone missed a 3

  • @marklvrd
    @marklvrd Před 7 lety

    Yeah, my textbook sucks...

  • @stefanosadane977
    @stefanosadane977 Před 2 lety

    gonna burn down that useless text book

  • @markwilders5436
    @markwilders5436 Před 5 lety

    Fix you voice