How The U.S. Can Build A 100% Clean Grid
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- The U.S. electric grid is outdated. Designed for a world that runs on fossil fuels, our grid needs some major tech upgrades in order to transition to a more distributed, all-renewable system. That means smart, internet connected hardware working in tandem with advanced data analytics software to ensure that supply and demand are balanced, even when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing.
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How The U.S. Can Build A 100% Clean Grid
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This video is just wrong about Edison. The system he proposed was direct current and would have never resulted in a grid at all.
Right. It was Tesla. People always pushing Tesla out.
Edison was sore loser, and electrocuted elephants to demonstrate DC was the future. 😆🤣
@@Mrmudbone_gaming Thanks. Correct. Edison did not have a grid vision and Tesla did.
Spot on thus the fued between Edison and Tesla which is immediately why I stopped watching just propaganda.
@@lancejames1916 Thumbs down for propaganda
I love how they completely ignore new nuclear reactor designs that actually use old nuclear waste and have zero risk of meltdown.
yes this video should have talked about the project that bill gates has been working on for years to get affordable electricity to poor countries...
@@Rickybhz precisely what I was referring to.
ikr, People don't realize how far Nuclear Reactors/Power has come. It is extremely safe and efficient now.
@@DeeTofa just waiting for China to do this. Once other countries see that it works, it might become popular
@@rileylamb3025 hopefully now he can continue with his plan to get this project completed.
You see videos like this say the words “fossil fuel” and then they show pictures or videos of nuclear power plants blowing steam... smh.
Have seen it far too often :)
It's sad that people think the steam coming from Nuclear plants are pollution. Those are the people pushing for 100% renewable solar/wind.
@@jclcoolrunner for now we cant depent on solar/wind alone, but for them nuclear is not an option
I thought I was the only one
At 0:30 you see a number of cooling towers and two skinny stacks on the left. Those skinny stacks are most likely for coal or maybe a waste to energy exhaust.. At 7:28 you see two cooling towers in the foreground and 2 skimny stacks, probably coal based on the conveyor systems. Also cooling towers do not discharge steam. Heated water from secondary or tertiary loop cooling systems is sprayed from the top of the tower. Ie not steam
Last time I was this early the grid didn't even exist.
haha
Liar
@@caesar7734 It's a joke bruh
last time i was this early, CZcams didn't exist
The early bird gets the worm...but it's the SECOND mouse that gets the cheese.
0:22 min Thomas Edison would recognize it and would immediately die of anger because it's not dc
Tesla rules
It is even worse when he sees people label giant DC battery storage TESLA. Looks like TESLA win twice.
Large scale Transmission is actually done in DC, look it up, it blew my mind too
DC transmission is better at higher voltage than AC transmission.
@@thunderb00m uhh your sir are very missinformed
@@Verifraudreports I'm sure you didn't bother looking it up so here is the link spoon fed to you. Please educate yourself before calling others misinformed
I read this book called “the third industrial revolution” by jeremy rifkin this book was publish in 2011, he explained everything about smart grid back in 2011.
The fourth industrial revolution has already begun.
Are you telling me ten years went by and his plan still didn’t work? 🤔
It’s one thing to sit at a computer and write down ideas. It’s quite another to verify it’s workable, get it approved by agencies, fund it and make it happen.
@@peredavi Agreed!! but if you get a chance to read this book please read it, he has already helped the European Union back in 2011.
I never read the book, but I wonder how many jobs on a daily basis a solar farm, wind farm, battery storage facility employs people once they are built. an office building can employ many people gainfully on a daily basis. Do solar farms, windmill farms, battery installations create long-lasting good jobs?
I'm not even from the US, but still watch these cnbc videos :/
Then I feel very sorry for you. CNBC is one of the biggest liars out here. And I'm telling you from the US BTW
@@cowboy_broke you telling him as a trump supporter and a traitor to America
@@cowboy_broke oh and why are u watching then if they are the biggest liars out there
@@trustno1737 LMAOOO CHECKMATE
@@framednapkin what do u mean lmao check mate
Thomas Edison would recognize it because it would remind him of his loss to Tesla...haha
Tom Pham General Electric is still around today, Tesla died broke and poor cause he was a revolutionary “thinker” and will not be mentioned cause today “society” praises and worships successful people based on a flawed view of thinking.
@@OutcxstBeats Edison was a capitalist, Tesla was seeking something much more than Edison. Why do you think Edison didn’t pay Tesla what he earned? Cause he most likely seen Tesla as a threat to his idea’s and economic future along with Edison’s investors. Tesla was a threat to wealthy capitalist and didn’t produce acceptable results from the money he borrowed.
@@Alex-qn3me Tesla's name still lives through Musk's company and it could go on to be the biggest company on earth, way bigger than GE so bittersweet I guess
@@ruzniimaad3509 Tesla’s idealogical views were earnest and for the benefit of mankind in a much different view than todays capitalist thinking. Sadly the bitter irony of it all is the capitalist rule the world and will never allow true free energy on a massive scale. At least some of us see and recognize Tesla’s hard work and give credit where credit is due.
@@Alex-qn3me Tesla was AC. Edison was DC. Both are used and both are vital for the world that we live in. No need to bash one or the other.
The goal shouldn't be 100% renewables the goal needs to be 100% clean energy
Perhaps as the first step; but when you consider you can easily obtain both and in most cases it is more efficient considering TOTAL COST (something fossil fuel fans NEVER, EVER do!) then no to do so would be foolish and much more costly in the long-term.
Good point. I'd like to see us shoot for both. As we get better at it, there will probably be odd, isolated situations where we can't gain that last percent of being renewable and clean. Mining equipment comes to mind.
Nuclear is just not clean. You followed an industrial lie although it seems that avery american surrendered
Agreed! We should be building 200GWe of baseload nuclear. They have lower lifecycle carbon emissions than wind and solar and they sit there cranking out power with grid stabilizing turbomachinery 24/7/365
@@woodalexander I agree; as soon as somebody figures out how to dispose of the waste and not one second beforehand.
I have 600 watts of off grid electrical power. It came in handy during the great blizzard of 2021. Mainly it is my hobby. It makes me my own power company. I don't waste electricity and watch the weather more than I normally would. Even though it only provides about 1/10 of what I use. It makes me happy 😁
GLAD TO SEE PROF. JASON DEDRICK ON CNBC. I was a student in your Intro to Information Management Class at SU. Great work on your research on electric grids ! I hope you are still playing guitar....much respect and power to you.
A centralized software managed grid would make us more vulnerable to cyber-attack and unforseen bugs. Micro-grids under the power of a broad range of energy sources would be most resilient.
I agree with your point about the vulnerability of a centralized software managed grid. It's important to have a resilient system in place, especially in the case of cyber-attacks. Micro-grids powered by a variety of energy sources can provide that resilience. By the way, if you're looking for a reliable home backup power solution, I recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It has a massive capacity, fast recharging, and comprehensive protections. Great for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I agree that a micro-grid system with a broad range of energy sources would provide resilience to cyber-attacks and bugs. Speaking of power solutions, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse with a massive capacity, powerful output, and comprehensive protections. It could be a great addition to your outdoor gear collection!
"The circuit breakers, the transformers--they try to stop the flow of electricity from your house back to the grid." Unsurprisingly, the activist has no clue what she's talking about.
lol I saw that too XD
Some pretty stupid talk. (AC) Alternating Current - Alternates (goes back and forth)
You guys are funny.
ironmatic: It's you that has no idea what you are talking about: Millions of households around the world, including the USA, already sell there excess solar back to the grid. Yes, some old infostructure can't, but that's the whole idea of this video to update to modern infrastructure and catch up with the rest of the world!
You are correct
Excited about this revolution in energy usage. Let's do this!!!
how about you spend 40 k to outfit your house with solar panels ... lets do this .. dosn't include poor people who cant take out a 2nd mortgage to have tesla battery back up supply along with 40 solar panels on there roofs ..
Instead of saying " LETS DO THIS " how about you saying .." you know what i'm going to do my part to save the planet and have 40k $$ of solar panels and tesla battery packs installed on my house . ..
TAKE THE LEAP . AND LETS DO THIS !!!
say it with me, nuclear.... :)
Nukular.
Waste lies at the bottom of the ocean because nuclear companies use to dump it there....
Say it with me, Fusion. When we get there. And more geothermal, etc.
👏
Nuclear is awesome! Not just fission but definitely fusion.
Fission is still our best option for climate change, good and clean electric with barely any waste.
But when fusion comes it's going to change the world, when it's adopted heavily.
Personally I'm waiting on a fusion bomb reactor. 🤷♂️ It's not very effective but it is awesome.
For a rapid move to clean energy, a decentralized power generation system is the key.
So back to the late 19th century? They tried decentralized power back then and guess what IT DIDNT WORK! Putting the burden on generating power on the house hold is extremely expensive and inefficient
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Welcome to the 21th century
As my esteemed colleague Mr. Smith pointed out, no practical decentralized power generation system has been invented... So are you saying the solution is to wait until we have invented better technology!? *Ghasp* Because this chat would absolutely lose their minds if someone dared to imply we should wait.
Seasong it doesn’t matter that we are living in the 21st century. Do you realize solar panels cannot be recycled? Batteries cost a fortune compared to a barrel of oil.
@@dr.vanhellsing Solar panels are 99% sand. So much for being non recyclable. Besides there are much better grid storage technologies without batteries like liquid air storage.
The only thing that is wrong about the grid shown is it should be underground, not a visual eyesore. Modern power lines under the ground as they do in the streets. As for modern clean power, it should come from efficient nuclear power plants, hydro and geothermal with less than 10% coming from solar and wind. Smart grids already are in place which is how they can move power from one sector to the next turn on and off water heater heaters etc. Having control of other appliances like AC units is not the way forward it is just rationing power because there isn't enough to go around.
“We need appliances that can be controlled by utility companies” woah woah wish. No thank you Becky
They made all those comments with straight faces... meanwhile im thinking "yall are crazy"
Has friends over, “oh, sorry guys - can’t make coffee, my electric kettle is disabled by the power company” “let’s just watch TV instead... oh wait...” 🤦🏻♂️
You were the guy in the turn of the 20th century saying cars were unreliable when compared to the horse.
TVs use way less energy than a kettle.
@@furezj, oh they definitely were! Took a few years to finally start making reliable cars.
I just don’t like the idea of my appliances not working when I need them. I already have my entire home wired up with smart plugs that turn off everything when I leave. Not being able to heat up food because the microwave is off, or only being allowed to have hot showers in the middle of the day is just not appealing as a consumer.
@@kokovox, kettles are on for 60sec, but 70’ OLED TVs tend to stay on for hours at a time. I’d be very curious to see what the average watt use weighs out to.
That's not how it would work. Demand regulation is for the things which are not time-sensitive, and use a lot more power than kettles and television. Think air conditioning or electric heating. You probably wouldn't notice if your thermostat bumped up a couple of degrees for fifteen minutes.
Which appliances are you talking about to run when it’s efficient?
Here why it doesn’t work
1. Microwave - can’t heat my food when there is no food, will not put food to be heated at 1230 when I am running a bit late and will have my lunch at 1330.
2. Washer/dryer - will keep the clothes in to run at the most efficient time but then it starts running after 2100 hours and finishes at 0130 in the morning, I have already slept , can’t get my clothes out - so either the machine runs at a low energy cycle for next 5 and a half hours or my clothes gets rubbished- stopping me from ever doing that or worse keep buying new clothes.
3. Refrigerator- all modern refrigerator runs constantly and depending on how many times it’s doors are open and how much food is in there , so stopping it’s supply as it is not efficient at the time will waste all the food.
4. Lights - only needed at night time.
5. Heating solutions- already utilise a fixed time approach where they can follow a fixed time.
6. Computer /laptops / mobiles- they follow there own cycle and needs charging when required. Computers need energy when you are using them.
7. Television- only need when I’m watching television and it will be only when I am at home and not working.
8. Ovens, cooking appliances- only required when I am cooking can’t put cake mixture in with baking powder at night so it can start cooking at 3 in the morning.
9. Electric cars - they will follow a set pattern like mobiles/laptops where once you are back from work you plug them in , and is the only time where it makes any sense to have a intelligent usage of the grid where it charges when required.
So basically you are saying that ‘we will say it’s works and appliances can be used when there is not much else requires electricity’ but what you actually saying is that we will make large batteries to charge things which will mine the earth for more materials and the next ten generations of battery will be absolutely rubbish in terms of efficiency and recycling properties, but by the time you realise the smart grid and storing energy is a totally useless exercise with batteries and should be done with something else. And then you’ll say about capacitors and how hydroelectricity must be used for storing etc.
So think about it - do we really need to store energy ? Then what is the best way to do it without involving mining earth, and something which can be used for generations.
Agree wholeheartedly
In the home? Air conditioning, electric heating, electric car charging. There are a lot more opportunities in industrial usage.
@@vylbird8014 I already took note of that. See point 5 heating Solutions- also includes air conditioning. We already use timer for them. So they are running at a time when there is not much load on the grid, and keeps us warm/cooled throughput the day.
@@vylbird8014 If I had an EV I would charge it at night. My parents had interuptible AC for a few years it was unbearable.
@@sayhjjm Right. Same concept, just finer-grained. Controling minute-by-minute rather than hour-by-hour.
I think it was actually George Westinghouse, not Edison, the one that started with AC distribution in the US in 1886 ? Edison's first Illuminating Co in 1880 was DC current not AC. There was even a recent movie on 'The War of Currents' . Edison's war on AC ended up forcing him out of the board of his own company after a merge with Houston Electric when General Electric was created
yeah, Edison invented the electric chair, not AC.
A toaster that only works at the most efficient time... Bet that isn't breakfast!.
Toast at 2:00 AM, 😂
Who works full time and has time to worry about when to use their lights heater and water heater? We’re not all rich like apple
Charcoal and an iron skillet, the cowboy way :)
@@TKUA11 no need to worry about it if your water heater did it automatically... Home temps and water heaters could automatically increase a couple degrees above normal when there's extra electricity
That toaster was definitely a weird choice, lol. Definitely not the best option for smart scheduling
A better one would be dishwashers which can run automatically overnight or at odd times. Maybe fridges or freezers that get a few degrees cooler when electricity is cheap. Heaters that preheat water or your home can do the same. Your EV can selectively charge at various times, and with new tech could even store energy for your house or even the grid
"If Thomas Edison looked at our power grid today he would still recognise it" 😆
Ironic considering that edison was fighting to make sure the grid would be dc instead of ac
he wouldnt dare mentioning Nikola Tesla :D
Like if the electricity principles have changes since then... no clue of what is talking about...
Really excellent story, and very well done. Thank you!
I can’t wait till we have 100% renewable energy!!!
The first thing I would do if planning to attack another country would be shutting down or interfering with their electricity. These new internet connected grids are insanely susceptible. I want a clean grid so my kids and grandkids aren't dealing with a dying world. However, without smart implementation we will just be exposing ourselves to outsider and insider threats. Let's hope for smart grids and smart implementation
ummmm we're all already in a dying world. Oceans, monarch butterfly, barrier reef, amazon rain forest, insects, birds that ate the insects, arboreal forrests ...
The first thing Id do is interfer with water treatment plants, red lights, and ATM's
CNBC needs to do a video about ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees with their profits
The beautiful thing is there are hundreds of solutions now. That’s thinking outside the box. Kodiak Island, Alaska - 98% renewable energy.
What do they run off of? That's kind of a loaded statement how about salmon canneries during peak season they almost all have diesel gen sets because the utilities can't provide enough power and or isn't reliable
@@drwe57 Google it. There’s plenty of articles on the Internet about it.
@@MM-sf3rl yeah people forget technically we've have renewable energy from the start. They've ripped out a bunch of dams the last twenty years from California to Washington state. I'm sure they could develop a fish ladder better than what was used before that was a big issue with removing them but dams are extremely reliable. We'll never only run off wind and solar alone we need a main source like Kodiak is 70% hydroelectric
@@drwe57 The dams here in california that were removed and unsafe. They were built years ago where people at the time didnt understand the dangers of building a dam in the locations they were building it
@@bruvlord1133 so what do you propose as an alternative? Because solar and wind isn't going to cut it
Invest in nuclear reactors such as thorium-based ones and use high energy density fuel is the way to go. We always move towards higher density energy fuels in history.
nuclear fission can buy us some time transitioning to renewables
like solar , wind , nuclear fusion
@@eugeneeng4037 Actually thorium, if used efficiently, can sustain for at least 1000 years
What about the waste, and possible radiation exposure?
@@Santo-Capro thorium based reactors have waste of half life 300 years, and are much less radioactive, easy to manage
Existing nuclear reactors work just fine and has done for decades. The waste is a non issue. Pay me and you can bury it in my back garden. Cost of nuclear are artificially high thanks to politics, overcome this and there would be no need for wind, solar and batteries which are not nearly as green as people think
I'm looking forward to cleaner air.
You are in luck, emission levels in the US are at 1992 levels and continue to decline. Air quality in the last thirty years has actually been improving. Fun fact, it has nothing to do with solar and wind, but are switch from coal to natural gas.
Then move out of the city. There’s lots of clean sir available it you don’t try to share it with 10 million people
With out getting into a lot of engineering, Edison developed a 110 volt DC distribution network. Tesla engineered, and Westinghouse manufactured an AC system which raised and lowered voltage. This permitted high voltage transmission and safer 110 volt point of use.
HVDC transmission uses 100 to 1100 kv . This works best for long distance and under water transmission lines.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men (and women) how little they know about what they imagine they can design."
-Friedrich Hayek
Yes. My ideas have seemed good, but it usual turns out like a road runner cartoon.
@@captbiptoe Hayek was bullshiter. Having said that, let's be realistic. We have both standard of living we need to preserve and reliability problem with 100% green grid. I'm all for nuclear power to continue and natural gas is good.
yeah, I'm not putting more wear on my car batteries to power the grid. that better be optional. Also you guys are down playing Nuclear too much.
That is completely okay if the price of kWh sold exseeds the cost of battery battery degradation cost plus potential increase of cost more frequent battery replacements.
Human error, natural disasters, and the possibility of a terrorist attacks are dangerous to our wellbeing if we use nuclear power plants. Costly accidents are bound to happen in the future, with 3 happening in the past 50 years.
3 accidents don't seem like much for 50 years, keep in mind nuclear energy was supposed to be "safe", "efficient", "and cost effective". The Chernobyl accident costs more than Hurricane Katrina, 125 billion dollars to 250 billion in damage. Renewables are one of the cheapest energy sources. However, in opposition to this is nuclear power, which is rising every day. Many plants around the world are being shut down or in danger of financial collapse due to economic reasons. The costs of a nuclear plant includes fuel, maintenance etc…No long term solution to waste is evident when we use nuclear power, or in place as of right now. Facilities that store nuclear waste are running out of storage. Due to their limited capacity, the nuclear industry is turning to other solutions. Turning to other ways of storage that are more costly and potentially unsafe for the environment
Yes exactly. Here in France, more than 90% of our electricity is carbon neutral, with 70% coming from nuclear plants, and 20~25% coming from renewables. France is currently the only major economy in the world with clean electricity, and it’s also cheaper than the E.U. average. France is a role model in clean electricity but other countries don’t seem to understand it...
Coal plants are more radioactive than nuclear, and they didn't even mention geothermal which would allow all the drilling companies to pivot.
@@altoic4909 nuclear power is the safest form of electricity generation in the world. More people die as a result of pollution from fossil fuel plants. These accidents you describe are tragic but they pale in comparison to accidents with fossil fuel extraction, processing and refining.
very informative...I really enjoy these short topic videos from CNBC...thanks
@mrmuranga so do I.
Nuclear is clearly the way to go. Much faster, cheaper and less environmentally damaging to build then wind, solar etc if you take the politics out of it and just leave it to the engineers. and NO IT IS NOT DANGEROUS! Do your homework people.
Second that motion
I agree.. but, their is Radioactive waste being produced! How can you call it as clean energy? A Radioactive Leak can cause a disaster to the environment!
Only one way to get clean energy is Fuel cell's, clean energy, it gives us water as waste which can be reused🤗
Unfortunately, the world isn't going in this direction.
Do people overestimate the dangers of nuclear power? Sure. Are the dangers of nuclear power nonexistant as your comment suggests? Certainly not.
@@elvislin6081 ok! But what about underground Ecology??
There are so many factual inaccuracies in this.
Like what?
If you want to talk about this, I would love to talk about it with you (or anyone else for that matter).
Duke energy tried the smart control meters in North Carolina back in the 2010 range, and 85% of people who tried it dropped out within 90 days. Telling people that they will get a $20 a month credit, or reduced per kW rate is not enough when you have no power between 5 and 7 pm, it come home to a house that is 88 degrees, and your AC system has to run for 90 minutes to get back to 73 degrees.
That's exactly what is being overlooked. My parents had interruptible AC for a few seasons. It was unbearable.
That's good feedback. Sounds like the house needs better insulation and an automated smart thermostat that pre-cools the house before power restrictions need to be implemented or a home battery.
Wonderfull, the power Co. wants to shut off my AC system when the system is needed the most. Thanks a lot!
They are traitors to America pushing a commie agenda, Agenda 21. : czcams.com/video/s1IacmUWVa4/video.html
@@ricktd6891 hahahahahahaha
@@4wierdosdancing Do you need educating on the global warming scam ? Now is your chance.
Refrigerators need to be able to use outside air if it's colder outside than inside the kitchen.
We have the technology to do this, rather simply.
I thought this production was pretty good for a news outlet like CNBC. I’ve admittedly been disappointed in previous specials like this but this was much better. I’ve been a utility consultant at Burns & McDonnell for 20 years and will attest to many of the facts stated in this video. Our electric utility clients from San Diego to Kansas to Long Island are tackling all of these issues. There were some outdated terms like “smart meters” and overly optimistic statements (100% renewable by 2035) but I appreciate people’s desire to get there. Keep bringing utility experts on these videos (Gridwise Alliance) as opposed to university professors so non-utility people have a better understanding of reality. Thanks and have a great day!
Now the government will know when your charging your vibrator lol
Weird name for a cell phone, but, _you do you._ 😉
@@E4439Qv5 Phones can do a zillion other things now, hey, why not that, too?
It sets off alarms when you go to turbo mode.
@Matt M, the government already knows, you should take a look at your meter box sometimes, i do and its funny. When I look at mine, i can tell what is using power and what is not. When its barely moving I know its the TV and Fridge and maybe lights when their own. When its moving fast, I know its my electric stove, furnace, or AC.
@@mikeaskme3530 It doesn't sound as if you've really thought this through much. You know what corresponds to what wattage, but for anyone else, they have to guess. They can, to an extent, but there's lots of overlap. Second, it's not the "government" normally able to look at that. Sure, the gov't could get a subpoena and get the records, but how long does the utility retain those records? I don't know. Do you? Well, if you're important enough, maybe the CIA could hack into the system and get the information surreptitiously. But if they really want to go to that much trouble, they can probably spy on you more easily by more direct means.
Your appliances surely don't have codes they can send to allow the utility to control them individually. Those may be in use before long. They will be necessary for automatic demand management. However, you could set up a backup system that isolates your home, making it look like just one item. On your side of the power wall, you could do your own demand management, and probably will. But it will be no problem, in principle, for you to hide all your information, including overall amounts. If someone tries to make such hiding illegal, then things could really start getting interesting.
get this on trending rn so government officials can notice this video
Nah, green new deal is stupid and they know all about it
Government officials are too busy worrying about cow farts and looking for ways to rob us of $4.5 trillion
@@TKUA11 funny enough one of the main contributors of co2 in the world is cow farts😭😭💀💀(search it up, believe i was just as surprised as you)
Nice, I learned something.
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US is THE country for renewable energy. She has the largest reserve of wind and solar energy in its Southwest. She also has the capital, labor, and technology to tap into it.
and can easily thwart the CN unholy plans to dominate...
So your solution is to trade CO2 emissions for habitat destruction? Because let's be honest that's what renewables are doing atm. Let's not forget habitat destruction is as big or bigger of an issue that "climate change" but nah you don't want to give up your electricity, soy, and palm oil to save the animals.
Isn’t it windiest and sunniest in the Sahara Desert?
@Adam Smith question: are you suggesting global oceanic current changing paths, changing flow changing temperature is a lesser of destructive habitats than putting solar on roofs. because putting solar on 1/3 of US roofs can generate all the power US needs. why you spreading FUD?
The real question is, how much are you, your family, willing to pay for it? $4.5T is a woefully low estimate, not to mention grid scale storage technology doesn’t even exist
There are a massive supply, reliability and recycling issues when you talk about solar panels. Wind power also tends to make farm land unusable (soil gets so compacted that you literally can't use it anymore). Both of these take lots of space too. Nuclear provides the most power with the least resources and amount of land. I think we are too far in infancy for solar. The land and location issues are difficult with wind.
I think solar is good to offset power draw from air conditioning, considering they are only used on sunny days.
Wait how does wind power make the farmland below unusable? Plenty of lands for farming and cattle ranching are used underneath the turbines.
@@camfahn7332 the wind Mill and the stuff you use to build the windmill and the stuff used to transport the windmill parts make all the land almost unusable. I know a few farmers who've talked about it. It quite literally makes the farmland unusable
Then the wind farms should be built offshore.
@@nicholasotto2882 but...how exactly? I've seen plenty of land still being used for ranching and corn production where I live. The turbines themselves are separated by hundreds of meters apart from each other, so what mechanism makes this land unusable?
My largest gripe with the energy system is states (in US) that allow power companies to charge their customers an added fee so the power company can build solar farms and other renewable energy alternatives and the consumer that is being charged that separate fee (added percentage of energy bill) will never see the benefit from. The added renewable energy charge should be built into the power companies cost for expansion. Not a 2% fee added onto bills after their power consumption rate. If the power companies need money to expand, get a loan like all other companies.
This is basic supply and demand.
The problem is, the top (oil) take the "profits" and keeps the profits, instead of reinvestment in solar. Why would a oil company use the profits in something else, other then themselves.
Instead of a company using its revenue to expand the company in a greener way.
It's basic supply and demand. A company is doing well has the financial support from its paying customers to expand. The customer supporting a company allows that company to grow over time.
The company using its customer's support to grow the business. No reason to go into financial debt.
Like now the extra gas revenue has the financial support to expand the company. This expansion of our energy market, with these extra profits to bring up the supply of energy. Basic supply and demand.
We are not short of customer support (demand). Demand is not the problem. No need for company loans.
We are not short of financial support (paying customers).
The problem is the top is taking the profits. Not increasing supply. Not building up equity, but bankrupting a company with debt. The company broke, the top people rich.
Now we have a broke company, the company needs welfare. A broke company with a billionaire owner. A hypocrisy present.
@@noel7777noel The oil companies have been on "welfare" for decades. The government subsidises them in all kinds of ways - if you removed their tax breaks you could probably fund the renewal of the Grid without any new money (just redirect the tax breaks to the area that actually needs investment).
@@malcolmrose3361 so arrest the people who alter supply and demand, to benefit themselves.
For example, I'm on foodstamps driving an expense car. Me getting one cent from the government (plus) and living like a king, (plus) because I have a monopoly,, equals a criminal.
A monopoly like roads we all use belong to government jobs. Otherwise the king owing the roads will own a yacht. Because of the monopoly on supply and demand. A criminal. No kings in America. A collapse of supply and demand.
Supply and demand is So simple a 2yr old can understand
A monopoly on supply and demand is extremely unwanted. Frankly criminal. It forces slavery.Anyone living like a king with a hold on a monopoly is a criminal. Equal to holding the general public hostage. A highway robbery. So they get a yacht. By force.
How does one get a yacht and government welfare and a monopoly and not viewed as a crime.
Even a yacht and a monopoly is a crime.
Just a unregulated monopoly is a crime.
And one regulation meets the definition of socialism. It's like socialism is just roads we all use and pay for, with no king owning a yacht. Holding us hostage by a monopoly.
Why should the utility company be forced to build renewable power it does not need?
Great video. Gives us some hope.
Wish all countries can try this new way of energy
It doesn't work iin the US, there is too much season variation in energy demand. if this was all there was, people would die in winter or be forced to burn the furniture for heat.
Canada laughs in hydro!
@@alex29443 This is why we need Nuclear/Hydro
@@newstartyt3700 Nuclear would do it, and hydro is great wherever you can put it, but there are only so many sensible locations.
We need nuclear .
Modular molten salt liquid thorium reactors. We need those everywhere.
@@DynamicHaze or you know just standard nuclear which has been working just fine for decades
@@garry8390 way to expensive, unsafe and they produce long lasting waste. Generation IV reactors are the future.
@@onlymediumsteak9005 Not when implemented correctly - standard water reactors have a proven track record of safe operation, and can do so economically if done at scale.
When ever i want a good laugh i come watch this
I bet after 10 years, there will be another video with the same title.
I like green energy and am in the process of getting solar and battery banks in my house but letting big brother have access to my heating and facilities is insanity count me out thank you.
Very well said and you are not alone. Frickin sheep are all going to freeze while they are starving to death in the dark. I looked at grid tie when I installed my system, biggest rip off I have ever seen.
Yeah my appliances and electric meter will never be connected to the internet if I could control that.
The Internet of Things has too many issues security wise.
makes me proud to be a wind tech with NextEra Energy
God bless you!! But we need to be realistic. Wind have reliability problem. So let's not advocat eradicating natural gas and nuclear power is good.
One of my friends is a wind tech here in California. Definitely an under-appreciated field 👏🏼
It will always be sunny or windy somewhere in the world at all times.
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You do know what is a power loss?
@@GURken power loss doesn't exist /s
Renters can't participate in adopting things that will lower their electric bill.
We need to incentivize landlords to adopt solar, wind, battery storage, etc.
@Temüjin Khan Than ditch cars, they are environmental nightmares.
Compared to cars, damage from reneaweables are peanuts.
@@deathgun3110 brilliant! Just stupidly brilliant.
We need more nuclear energy. Its the cleanest energy if we're talking about capacity and output.
I agree that nuclear is great and clean but it's just to expensive in its current state. Nuclear needs smaller standard plants to bring the price down.
@@jeffreysmith4586 wrong. Nuclear is one of the cheapest sources of energy, because of low fuel consumption and low operating costs.
Check out the ‘how to save a planet’ podcast on nuclear energy. Nuclear is amazing technology and in its new iteration is very safe, but humans get in the way. Project costs spiralling out of control, communities against it, etc.
Except it isn't
@@canaldofred2366 it's also safer than wind and solar.
Cool, I like this demand response thing
7:18 “controlling consumer demand,” sounds lovely.
Would be easier to just start building houses that supply their own power and are not connected to any grid...
Text me on what.sap. for invest'ment plan...
They won't let me build a windmill generator- against code. How many batteries are needed to go 4 days without sunlight?
@@captbiptoe more than you want hanging around your house. Just put in a backup generator much easier.
@@megawatts4112 exactly. It worked out that way. My mom had a backup generator installed after getting too old and frail to come with weekly blackouts. I inherited the house.
I don’t want G.E. to be able to turn off my stove..
Your gas company already can!
Well they can transition into the renewable power industry .We will still need gas but it’s a non renewable resource meaning eventually we will be out in the future if we keep up like this.
@@specialopsdave No they can't. Not really. They would have to shut down a huge section of their grid. And the gas has to go somewhere. It would take a long time to drain the pressure from the gas lines enough to turn off your stove. The gas company cannot turn off your stove like a "smart" appliance (which is a mischaracterization as well).
The video could have done a much better job of explaining "smart" appliances. The idea is that you "won't notice". That means things like changing the time of day that your refrigerator/freezer goes into defrost mode, which requires a lot more electricity than keeping things cool. Or starting your dishwasher at 2 AM instead of at 8 PM when you might have started it. The "smart" appliances need to be smart enough to allow the user to override the power company and not the other way around. And this is where the danger lies... How will this be built?
@@scottharwood8839 excellent points and breakdown. Using the buzzword ‘Smart’ for any level of nuanced power optimization is going to scare/confuse most people into thinking any new power systems are trying to control your appliances and spy on you.
When realistically any update/upgrade of the grid is 99% structural and completely within the bounds of established power systems.
Personally, I’m extremely certain that power rate scheduling is all that any household would need to be able to optimize their power usage timetables without any expensive and error-prone gimmicky network.
@KatieBrigham Thanks for Producing this very Informative video. Now would be a good time to do video(s) on how end users and Energy Producers ( ) on exactly how we All can Modernize our electric Grid and how soon? Like a Plan of what steps needed (Timetable?).
Sounds great!
This video should be called how it's impossible to make a 100% percent clean grid.
Nothing is impossible
@@akyhne you’re right. It is possible, but it will leave everyone destitute with a $4.5 trillion price tag. Who’s the richest man in the world? Does he have an extra 4.5 tril?
@@TKUA11 money rules the industry, once wind and solar WITH utility level battery storage become cheaper than coal and natural gas energy companies would switch even without the need for regulation
@@TKUA11 We are in 2021 and 2035 is 14 years away? You think maintaining the current infrastructure is free?!
@@ruzniimaad3509 I mean that’s a big request. Currently solar and wind installation far outpace installation rates for storage capacity, transmission and loading systems.
It’s also interesting that they say we need to invest in the grid to meet Bidens plan demands, yet they also show that both the time and cost are significantly greater than what Biden is estimating.
$4.5 trillion for the grid alone, yet Biden is allocating only $2 trillion for all programs combined. Something doesn’t add up here...
20 years to complete the grid overhaul and even longer to synchronize and load the grid appropriately yet Biden demands completion in 15 years.
Who did the estimates in Bidens team, because it would appear they didn’t do any research
I like this video - but can you please not mess up the difference between energy and power! you do it in almost every video on energy i have watched. 14:08 you say customers saved 12.5 GW of energy - that's incorrect - GW is power or installed capacity.
If a major insfrastracture is controlled via internet that is doomed due to hackers, the issue is mechanical parts cant be hacked
Thanks for another great news video. It's good we can come up with new ideas instead of burning coal. I live in manchester UK, but we've just bin told all energy prices are going up by £96 a year. I have to live of a limited income of just over £100 a week, with that iv Hugh bills to pay, not through debt but just your normal bills. But I live in a high tower block housing associations with only electric allowed which I'm also on a pay meter . I never leave a light on, I have to cook, wash, iron after 9pm or 12am for cheapest rates, which still uses over £20 a week which I struggle to pay and sum times have to go without electricity for a few days. They've even as we speak fitted the whole block with a new central heating system and hot water boilers which iv had to switch off due to it using £20 for just a couple of days only, I'm not the only one that does this in the block. I have to wear jumpers and have to light lots tea light candles to keep warm and for light. So I really hope these new inventions they come up with take into account there are lots of people who are living on the bread line
They should invest in thorium research
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@Darius Williams it's a running joke amongst physicists that nuclear fusion has been 5-10 years away for the last 50-60 years
even when someone manages to do it and have net energy gain, spinning it off into a cost competitive option will never happen
being cost competitive is a must, the reason why we don't see new fission reactors is because it takes them 20+ years to pay off the investment
This isnt getting done in my lifetime
How old are you
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@@ShanGamer1981 in Europe 2050 also some contries already hit near 100%
If you live another 50 years it should. Since 25 - 50 years is the time in which in which much of the grid infrastructure is due to replace anyways.
The coal fired power plant is the back bone of our grid. If you want to meet these new goals they will have to be replaced and nuclear will not help because it’s too expensive. The only paradigm that can work is called “Liquid Air.” (That’s air not wind) This plant is in the same cost range as a coal fired power plant - it’s clean, renewable, safe and reliable !!!
Cleanspark and stem are going to take advantage of this 😈
"scheduling appliances to run a the most efficient time" - uhh, no....
Smart meters also help the utilities know which meters are offline in the event of power outages due to natural disasters
SMR can do the trick - SEALER (Swedish Advanced Lead Reactor). For on-grid applications, the fuel is 21 tons of 12% enriched uranium nitride and the rated power is 55 MWe, leading to an equivalent full power core-life of 25 years.
although monopolization of electricity in tech will be an issue if you count in solar storms and emps, there must always be alternatives to balance the playing flied, even some sort of new power source if it has to be.
Very interesting news. :)
Finally someone mentioning that your electric car batteries can become a storage device for the grid. EVs can be bidirectional I.e. charging from the grid and selling power to the grid. Using solar to charge your EV, run your house electrical needs (even heating if you have a LEED certified house), and selling excess to the grid is the way to go.
This is a new concept to me that’s crazy
How does that impact the batteries lifespan?
Great video!
5:04 You definitely do not need to replace transformers or breakers. It's called alternating current because it literally goes both ways.
USA cant even fix a pothole and now you want to expect them go green energy ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Lol
Blame urban sprawl for this! And the economics of US cities. Basically everywhere most important infrastructure is fixed first. There is a profit insentive to design the grid in such a way over time it is due to be replaced/reconstructed anyway.
@@ArthursHD It's either sprawl or go vertical. Vertical creates population density issues.
No potholes here in sunny Florida(where everyone is moving to).
Lets not forget with people trying to go solar and store power. All these batteries and solar panels take rare natural resources and mining.
Exactly. They almost never mention that. We need more efficient and safer ways to store the energy.
Or what they do when they wear out, windmill landfills, not very attractive!
Mining looks energy intensive. Is there any solar or wind powered mining equipment?
@@captbiptoe lol. Nope. Best viable energy source for mining equipment is small mobile nuclear reactors.
Still gonna chop down trees for poles. Still gonna smelt steel for towers. Still have to like for copper aluminum and rare earth metals.
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05:10 for a moment I thought wow that guy is strong...
Again, we have some "Professor" telling us this will work.....perhaps we should listen to those whom never left the classroom.
@Dan Dor, you do know most professors especially in science also do research and yes work in the field. Your comment is like saying a professor of medicine who teaches future doctors don't know or understand disease and healthcare in the real world.
It only means more control for Tech Giants of our life's
Yet you still have a cellphone with siri, google assistant, alexa or Google home assistant
And here you are, using a tech platform. If you're so scared stop using their products.
Wave turbine power seems to have been overlooked. The US has thousands of miles of coastline where this renewable energy can be generated.
Agreed, and geothermal. At least two geothermal plants are coming online soon.
There must also be some national security ramifications, if the grid operates closer to it's limits. System would be more vulnerable to irregularities. All I'm saying is that peak plants still will have to be maintained, even if they are never used.
Love this video. Really high quality and honest.
This video was the one we need.
The movement of eco-friendly homesteads will works well with the smart grids to enable trading among households. Instead of relying on the mega-structure and big machinery as in the current economy, future homesteads should be able to capture rain water, grow foods, and generate energy, while fulfilling the majority of needs among the communities.
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Truck a SMR to the local substation, forget all the long distance stuff. Thorium LFTR’s burn nuclear waste, generate electricity and more.
I've been bringing that up to people and they think I'm crazy I think it'll be the future. Wind and solar are slightly better than a coal plant but can't be consistently reliable for peak load demand. This video had a lot of false into like trying to say transformers can't be back fed, they all can they have no moving parts are work off of induction nothing mechanical
Best green energy with zero emissions: NUCLEAR POWER
except toxic waste which normally is hidden under ground or in some facility. Plus huge danger of disaster (Chernobyl, Fukushima)
@@poolas8ball process has been improved immensely over the decades. With proper building, maintenance, etc the risk is minimal. Upside is that you get clean energy pumped out for numerous decades. 0% emission and no need to repair, rebuild, or recycle old materials like solar panels and such. Risk of future Chernobyl’s would be minimal if done correctly. :)
Very clean but with a small risk of massive problems. Like Fukushima.
@@SonofZeusGOW You still didn't address the disposal of the radioactive waste that stays harmful for hundreds of years.
No! Nuclear power is a viable and useful way to produce power. But it is NOT zero emissions. Yes, there have been great improvements in plant design and the type of fuel used. But, you do still end up with decaying radioactive stuff that is very harmful to human life. Some designs and fuels are less savory than others. Also, every plant design I am aware of dumps massive amounts of waste heat (usually warm water into rivers). I think nuclear power can still be a viable option, though probably not in the U.S. for political reasons. The society largely doesn't want them. But, we don't seem to mind nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers... Oh well.
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What would the ideal grid look like... the otherway round... Major production decentralized lokal on the low voltage part of the grid and only going to mid or high voltage grid for transport between small grid islands distribution....
The only way to manage energy is thru scale. Group the entire province / state together and do the mandatory minimal solar panels on new build home, and add automation on demand system on new home (no option out) , that will be huge
Energy storage for renewable energy production would best be done in the form of liquid metal batteries or hydrogen rather than lithium ion batteries
You got an extra $4.5 laying around for these batteries? Oh and hydrogen is expensive , and minerals from conflict countries is a big no
Agreed but many existing dams could be retrofitted to incorporate pumped hydro
@@Jasonmanmosa Majority of them are it’s not going to change the national grid much
Hydrogen is also not efficient with the electrolyze process. A lot of energy is lost in this process, which requires even more energy needed.
Keeping a lookout for NaCl batteries.
If anything we need updated Grid with EMP protection.
yes because if we are attacked by hundreds of air burst nuclear bombs, we want to make sure it does not affect WiFi gaming.
Is there a list of sources or study material y'all could provide?
4:57 given the continued decreasing cost for battery storage and the price per watt for solar panels, and then the new scheme for electricity providers to pay a fraction for selling power to them, it is more likely homeowners will decide it just makes sense to go offline.