We Visited the ONLY* Diner in Utica, NY (Using Transit!)
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- We asked for steamed hams but they said that's an Albany expression.
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Of course they didn't have any steamed hams, it's an Albany expression
Crazy you’re doing that without Jackson
Omg yes 😭😭😭
I know, he wasn't on the eclipse trip! There's a reason this is a very abridged video with just one diner in it and no theme song or anything...I could never do a full-scale diner video without him!
but we did get a Jeremy! that's a fair compensation
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Buses look like the same ones as TCAT in Ithaca.
Which you can use to get to the Finger Lakes Trail. Some of the best Appalachian hiking accessible by transit....
Denny’s is a diner the same way Olive Garden counts as Italian cuisine.
May I welcome you to watch we went to every diner in Boston
I’ve seen and loved both other diner vids! We need more.
Blasphemy 😂
Some raspberry facts in honor of the diner, while berry is in the name, raspberries are actually caneberries and are not true berries. Botanically speaking, berries are fruits that come from a single ovary. Raspberries are an aggregate, coming from a single flower with anywhere from 50 to 150 ovaries, each making a separate small drupelet. And here's a fun fact about Denny's, it's not named after a founder! In 1953, the Denny's lore: In 1953, Denny’s founders Harold Butler and Richard Jezak opened up a coffee-and-doughnut shop in Lakewood, California called Danny’s Donuts, and worked to open multiple locations over the next several years! The name “Danny,” meanwhile, held no real significance for either Butler or Jezak. They picked it simply because it was popular, and neither founder had any relatives or acquaintances in mind when they chose it. After Jezak left the business, this concept eventually became restaurants that sold burgers alongside coffee and breakfast, called Denny's Coffee Shops in 1959, then by 1961, dropped Coffee Shops!
Now that is a fun fact
Thanks Kim.
LEFTIES RISE UP! From what I found, the Boston Store you showed at 1:49 was a department store that first opened in 1918 as the Leader Store at Franklin Square, renamed the Boston Store, then they tore down the Arcade Building and built a larger 90,000 square feet store in the 1940s, expanded twice in the 1960s, then closed in December 1976 when its parent went bankrupt. In August 1984, the store was reopened as One-Thirty-One Boston Place, but by December, it was closed once more. Today, it's an independent living center. Love the architecture of that McDonald's in the intro, it's a cool modern version of a vintage McDonald's, and McDonald's got its logo from those giant golden arches of its old restaurants! One of my favorite McDonald's locations is one inside a 1860s Georgian-style mansion in New Hyde Park on Long Island! The house was first built in 1795 but when McDonald's wanted to demolish it and build a drive-thru, the locals fought back and sought historic designation, with McDonald's being allowed to have a drive-thru if they restored the building to its former glory!
And Frederick Law Olmsted Jr (born on Staten Island) who designed that parkway in Utica had a lifetime commitment to national parks, and worked on projects in Acadia, the Everglades and Yosemite National Park! He was the one who filled in for his father Olmsted Sr. on the Park Improvement Commission for DC beginning in 1901, and by contributing to the famous McMillan Commission Plan for redesigning DC according to a revised version of the original L’Enfant plan, thus leading to the National Mall, Jefferson Memorial, White House grounds, and Rock Creek Park! As for his father, in the course of his career, Olmsted Sr. designed 100 public parks and recreation grounds, ranging from the iconic Central Park in Manhattan and Prospect Park in Brooklyn to Niagara Falls State Park (originally called the Niagara Reservation, the US's first state park), Branch Brook Park in Newark (the US's first county park), the Emerald Necklace in Boston, Jackson Park in Chicago, and the park systems of Louisville, Rochester and Buffalo!
You can always trust Avery for the random facts 🫡🫡🫡
Before that Olmy was a journalist. He toured the U.S. South for one thing, and had strong opinions of the various cities he visited, and on the society. I recall one city he did not like at all, and one he found decent, but I don’t remember which was which so (stops).
Ah, good context on Boston Store, thanks!
That video was PERFECT to put a VERY much needed smile on my face. But then again, Jeremy and that infectious smile/laugh ALWAYS puts a smile on my face!
BTW, I must apologize to you and to Jackson whom I forgot to list when I recently said on another video that my favorites of your friends were Nathan, Sunny and Jeremy. I entirely forgot to put the musical genius Jackson on that list! Shame on me! I adore him and miss him dearly. Please give him my best and tell him he needs to be in more of your videos!
And thanks again for being my absolute FAVORITE CZcamsr❣️
As mentioned in the Wikipedia page for Utica University, the State Board of Regents dropped the doctoral requirement for University status in NYS back in January of '22. This also let a bunch of SUNY colleges become SUNY universities, so this feels like a branding decision more than an educational one.
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Oh awesome, I'm so glad you saw this! It was great, I'll absolutely be back if I'm ever in Utica again to get the CINNAMON French toast this time!
This was a nice nostalgic trip for me. I remember riding CENTRO back in by school days at SUNY Oswego and when working in Syracuse. The buses didn't look as nice back then. CENTRO was decent, but the king of deviations.
When you passed the Friendly’s, I got a sudden intense craving for a Fishamajig. I don’t think I’ve had one since station wagons still came with the option for “wood” decals on the sides.
Miles as a prosecutor:
🎵Men you shot🎵
🎵Men you shot🎵
🎵Right now you’re looking at the men you shot🎵
Why is this so perfect
Well done! I've been chuckling about this comment for a day or two now
Lots of history here in Utica. You guys should have visited the Oneida County Historical Society museum, it’s a great stop!
Friendly's closed a lot of its stores. There are several still open over several states. I'm shocked the location you passed still has it's sign up.
Love raspberries! Easily the best breakfast in the Utica/new Hartford
Have you visited the only Fodero diner outside of the east coast, located in Minneapolis?
The Hi-Lo! Yeah, I've been there, it was great!
@@MilesinTransit I recently went there for the first time (not sure how I hadn’t been there before in my four years of college up there) and it was fantastic! Glad I went before moving back home.
Great video! The favorite part of my morning transit commute is the liberal use of colorful language.
Fun fact: that bit of street running you crossed on the bus is the former Delaware Lackawanna & Western's (later Erie-Lackawanna, then Conrail) Binghamton to Utica line, now operated by the Susquehanna. Today it's quite a sleepy line and the middle section is OOS (or was - NY DOT gave the Susy-Q a harsh rap in their knuckles for not running trains on a line they paid to be rehabed) but in the late 19th and early 20th century it was very busy, especially with anthracite moving north. If you want to have an idea of how what running trains over that line (and what it was to be a railroader) in that period was like, get a copy of Joseph Bromley's "Clear the Tracks! Story of an Old Time Locomotive Engineer" - a very enjoyable read.
Utica has a fairly impressive bus station for a small town. The only problem is that the bus doesn’t run on Sundays. So if you don’t own a car then you’re screwed.
The wednesdays-only window is familiar... I live sandwiched between SEPTA's Trenton Line and West Trenton Line, and none of the stations near me have kiosks. It's a pain, because SEPTA regional rail costs more if you pay on the train than if you pay at a kiosk or use a SEPTA Key. One of the local stations has a window that sells SEPTA keys, but it's only open from 5:30 AM to 11:30 AM on like four days of the week! Why?!
Yep, while I find the lack of an app for Centro (in Syracuse) to be kind of limited, the ability to get cards online lets me have them ready for my yearly trips in October.
Still doesn’t quite explain why the stop at Fly Road on the 58 Bus didn’t have service Saturday or Monday; an Uber on Monday that had to “rescue me” to a more serviced part of town, found it equally odd?
Especially as the stop had a full covered bench set-up, so must’ve been a recent kerfuffle.
Traffic is wonky if they leave late but get all green lights it will be early..lol. Boston store is super historical.. there is a real old 1950s style diner in canastota called prevo's btw
Utica college use to be part of Syracuse University now it's just Utica college because it is no longer part of Syracuse University.
Raspberrys is great ...the bus really needs to expand its pickup points it is wonky where it picks up and drops off. If you want a cool normal Rockwell town to visit with no crime Clinton NY is cool.
the bus announcement that said "Digestive Health" had me laughing
Just Googled this place and it was apparently demolished last year? Way to get my hopes up!
There are two Raspberries cafes; the one that got demolished was the other one! We filmed this last month.
@@MilesinTransit I'm glad to hear that Raspberry's is still around! I grew up in the area and have fond memories of getting brunch there on Sundays. By my recollection they served some fairly solid paninis around lunch hour.
@@JohnPellmanthere’s also one in Rome NY, about a 20 min drive out of Utica.
2:23 That’s the same kind of fare machine used on Hampton Roads Transit! The Gillig bus also reminds me of HRT! Great video!
There was just an Aurora Borealis in New York!
No, I wasn't allowed to see it......
Damn, now I want to go to Utica for French Toast, that diner was off the chain.
Whoa foamer max alert for an intersection of the original Erie canal and a street running RR and that crazy little tower built for what?
i grew up in upstate NY. Since youre already in Utica, head over to Herkimer, NY and check out Crazy Ottos Empire Diner.
Its an original 1952 Mountainview diner with all the cool aesthetics from the 50s!
And only about 30 minutes away!
Yeah, that one looks incredible. We weren't able to visit on this trip, unfortunately!
I love that Jeremy was there to invoke the street running train serving the brewery in Utica. Plenty of foaming footage on here from that.
what the heck are some of those buildings!!
I just love watching your videos and adventures with your fun friends!!!!!!! Foam on!!!!!!!
I never understood street stations, like I would have to wait for the crosswalk signal to cross the street to get the bus. But if the bus is late, I’d miss my connection, at least with a station platform , I could in theory run over a toddler safely on a bus platform to run to the next bus.
Since you were in the area you should have visited empire diner in herkimer just hop on the bernie bus the stop it's right out front
Oh yeah, that's a much more impressive diner! We only had so much time, alas.
are diners harder to find on the east coast? we have a lot where i live
I wish people would pay attention to the conditions we set out at the beginning! We're specifically looking for factory-built prefab diners.
I love how you pay tribute to the diner series by using the singing clip for the word diner in your videos. Nice touch haha
0:19 Oh hey it's the world famous golden... single... arch?
0:19 You actually have the arches? I don't know if McDolands's here in Poland ever had arches.
Ah I laughed at the “I’m lefty I need to sit a certain spot” comment. I know it all too well 😂
Glad to see you also make the "Utica from Steamed Hams" joke.
Of course you didn’t have any steamed hams in Utica. It’s an Albany expression.
I like how they chose to sit next to the only two other people at the restaurant while they spoke loudly
lmaoooo
Dunno why that table was chosen, honestly...
Controversial opinion from a european: US transit in the Northeast is not any worse than the average european medium size city, in fact the US does things like transit centers with waiting rooms and info booths, as well as cheap fares a lot better. A place like Utica doesn't need a light rail every 10 minutes.
Yeah I’m going to have to disagree with you on that solely because European cities are mostly much denser and more walkable. While yes, an average European city might have comparable transport, but at least you can walk more places. A lot of North American cities are spread out and not as dense.
But in Europe the bus usually runs more frequently than once an hour, or in Syracuse's case every 80 min on weekend. Plus Utica's bus system doesn't really cover much
A place like Utica doesn't need a light rail every 10 minutes, but it DOES need Sunday service...a nice waiting room can't change a lack of freedom.
I Enjoy You And Your Transit Nerds And Your Travels, Takes Me Back 50 Years And Me Hanging Out With My Nerds Friends, But We Were Checking On Our Horse And Buggies.
come to syracuse, centro is bigger here
Pizza Boys was the greatest near Utica College, hopefully it's still da best
2 dollar slices on Tuesday 😋
Great video!
Today's Soundbites:
0:01 5:45 Diner
2:10 9:20 Now it's time for a bathroom review (hm)
2:36 goofy ahh ringtone (not really a miles in transit soundbite)
4:24 Foamer Meter broken (is it a soundbite?)
4:54 5:37 Miles Mocks Announcements (kind of a soundbite?)
6:16 Now that is a fun fact
8:26 Menu Shot
14:14 outro music
loved it ! classic miles and friends foamer dinner extravaganza
Maybe you'll have better luck if you try the diner(s) in Albany next time? ;)
I've been to Jack's, which was great!
I've been watching these videos for a few days now, and I still have not figured out what foamer is
Someone who loves trains/transit so much that it makes them foam at the mouth
Man, I thought this is a video from 10 years ago.
Enjoyed every moment, keep it up!!
Thanks so much!
Love to see some quality vintage McNaldo's action behind Rose at 0:37 ;)
Dang, that bus at 0:58 looked kinda like an RTS from that angle ;)
For what it's worth, a book I have called "Diners of New York" lists this diner as a 1978 Paramount! It was written by Michael Engle, who's also part of the Dinerville crew, so I'm not sure which source to trust!
Dammit, this is why we need you for this stuff!!!
I figured Miles was a lefty.
anyone know the name of the ringtone at 2:38?
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I wish!
Next time you head South on the Northeast Corridor, take the MARC Camden line to Laurel, MD. There is a totally original railroad car-design diner across Rt. 1 from the MARC/B&O station that I swear hasn't changed in 60 years, except the at-table juke boxes are modern. I think it's called Tastee Diner or something like that. It's in the same price ballpark as the one in this video. If you go down the road South about 3/4 mi. you'll come to the Giant Foods shopping center parking lot where George Wallace was shot during the 1972 Presidential campaign.
Ooh, that looks great!!
@@MilesinTransit You should get Thom from Trains are Awesome to join you there, since he lives in the DC area. Bear in mind there is no weekend service on the Camden Line (CSX Capitol Subdivision).
My grandma used to live in Utica she always talked about a diner her and her friends used to go to but she forgot the name, this could be it?
Maybe, although there are several closed diners in Utica too!
Marr-logg Diner in east Utica has been there for 50 years and still running
"Pizza Boys" Best Stop Name Ever
Steamed hams is an Albany expression
I’m here for the memes
gilligs? ride goraleigh someday if you want gilligs!
I've seen enough Gilligs to last a lifetime...
@@MilesinTransit come to raleigh, there's always more gilligs in store! a gillig for you! and a gillig for you! and a gillig for everyone! low floor delights for all!
You just barely saved yourself some foamer rage by acknowledging Schuyler Street
The animations on that ticket machine remind me of the Milwaukee Intermodal Station signs
I thought you were going to have steamed clams.
Of course the Utica diner doesn’t have steamed hams, it’s an Albany expression.
Oh dear always wanted Miles to come Upstate but Centro is punishment I wouldn’t wish on anybody. Considering Utica’s version
Also just to point out the diner mentioned here is technically in New Hartford
Got some deviationception going on there
I built those Orion's
Haha! I live in Boston but was born in Utica!
You should have got off at Crackton
5:16 I don't understand what happened😭 can someone please explain
It's the same voice as the buses in New York City! Sorry I didn't explain it in post!
From I learned while riding CENTRO is
a) Their buses look really good, especially those Orion's, love those buses. Their announcements are great, better than the robotic ones around the country
b) Their coverage is ok, they even have a couple of regional routes but their service is horrible. Especially on the weekend. Since everything has to get to/from the hub at the same time to transfer passengers, what end up happening is you have these routes that makes a deviation just to slow it down to make the pulse. That is why all the routes in Syracuse run on pitiful 80 minute headways on weekend with some exceptions
c) Utica's headways are decent enough, however the service ends at 6pm... You don't see much of a pulse in Utica, but you definitely see it in Syracuse where you have 10 buses arriving/leaving at the same time, when the signal" is given by the dispatcher to leave.
d) Their numbering system is usually, but not always, XX short turns 1XX 2nd shortest variation 2XX 3rd shortest 3XX 4th shortest, etc, etc, so in theory 111 will travel further out of town than the 11, but will share a common "trunk"
I don’t know why but as a fellow lefty it just feels right to me that Miles is a lefty
Is the lefty seat a universal lefty-ism? I was taught about it by my father, but only because he was a righty and didn’t want to bump elbows with me.
Shout out to fellow leftie's who need to be accommodated at the diner table lest your pancakes end up on the floor via an elbow fight!
FREIGHT TRAIN STREET FREIGHT TRAIN STREET
#WeNeedMoreFerryVideosMiles
I love these US bus systems their buses are way better than what we have in Europe.
That's a pretty rare take, I have to say!
@@MilesinTransit I love the US health care, it's so much better than the one in Antarctica!
Antarctica has excellent health care, other than the inability to evaluate personnel in the winter. As you would expect, since it is the wealthiest country in the world. I think their per capital GDP is something like half a million dollars a year.
Raspberries use to have a second location right along the railroad ROW, but it was turned into a gas station. Crazy seeing Utica covered on this channel, my office window overlooks the Centro Hub.
The TTC has Orion VIIs of the same age. They were the majority of the fleet at one point, in fact, but the builder plates were removed during refurbishment as with all other buses.
Dang, those builder plates are so cool!
nice
1978
Is this the old Hartford Queen?
I'm not sure!
9:37 that's what she said
I like that you gave the diner a breakdown and score in the same fashion as the Philly and Boston diner videos. Made it feel like it slid right in with them.
Also, again, probably oversharing here, but I also ended up diner-ing for breakfast on the morning of the eclipse. My friend and I ate at the Sherburne Diner in Sherburne, NY, and I almost took a page out of your book and got French toast, but ended up getting eggs and sausage instead. It was definitely a cozy little place to get breakfast in advance of a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
Nice! Based on the Google photos, I have to say their cinnamon French toast also looks very good.
Reference the plethora of YT clips of Schuyler St runs and brewery switches \m/
I went to this diner after an SCA rvent last year. Pretty good bathrooms and the turkey sandwhich on white bread is good.
At last, I believe you've come to a diner that tells me what type my childhood diner was! Raspberries here is almost identical inside. Thank you! (I would've just gone to check mine but it's been a CVS parking lot for a while now.)
Yeah, this design was all the rage in the 70s!
13:34 The albany to schenectady bus had wifi too the 905.
Utica's hub looks like a twin of the one in Athens GA.
11:46 I live near Albany and take the bus to school. The local routes exclusively run Gilligs (which I HATE) and somehow the Gillig Mezzanine Seat is the only place on the bus I can sit. When I sit anywhere else it feels wrong
you didn't even ask for tomato pie
For BRUNCH??
That's not in Utica New York at all you need to go downtown to the triangle diner on Genesee Street next to mellow subs
That's not a diner by our methodology.
Not sure who told you that's the only diner. But that's simply not true
I recommend watching the first 7 seconds of the video to discover the answer to your question
@08:21 leftys unite! i always need to outside seat at the diner. the bus route in utica where they famously dont have steamed hams reminded me of the nj transit routes in south jersey.
No one ordered the Giambrotte?
Gosh, I had never heard of it!
Ugh.. Orion buses.. At least those aren't in production anymore.
I much prefer them to Gilligs!
@@MilesinTransitInteresting. As a passenger I’m kinda agnostic between the two.
As a bus driver the Orion is… horrible. It’s a human factors nightmare.
That being said, I’ll take a New Flyer over a Gillig. Especially if it is an Xcelsior. (I’m partial to the X40. But the XDE35 is a hot rod of buses and is a hoot to drive!)
@@MilesinTransitWhat do you like about the Orions over the Gilligs?
@@NickCBax Ahhh, good to know!
Literally here ten seconds after posting😂😂😂
Am I bad for avoiding bus deviations by getting off as soon as it starts the big loop, rather than spending the extra 10 minutes on the loop (as it is quicker to walk the difference)?
Why do so many people hate devastations? They’re useful for people who can’t walk far, or wheelchairs, it makes sense to pull up to the Walmart sidewalk, over in the street.
"Devastations" is right! ;)
@@MilesinTransit Heh!
Obviously the less able bodied would need the loop, or those in the middle of it.
@@seprishere right, but the issue I have is that I see transit advocates complain, complain and complain about them, and say that they should get rid of them.
it's an albany expression
I like the concept of transit + outstanding Guide Michelin food review.
But, despite watching it multiple times... I somehow always missed the mandatory ferry part 🤔
You'd be hard-pressed to find a ferry in Utica!
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