The New California Republic: Fallout's Most Powerful Faction
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
- Join me in covering the New California Republic. Starting at its humble beginnings to its domination of pre-war California.
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5:10 yooo i made that map on reddit.
Ballin
Freaking Legend
least NCR coded redditor
Fairly Good Work
Modest
Except BOS
Dope
Bold of you to assume there is a more powerful nation than the Republic of Dave
I voted for Dave's wife
How ignorant of you for assuming that the Republic of Dave is more powerful than the Little Lamplight.
@@Van_Owen_ Littlelamp light is unstable. The children are inexperienced mushroom eaters who eventually move on. No continuity, no experience!
*Gary pops his head up*
I wonder which of these powers shall prevail in war, Republic of Dave or Petoria.
“Fallouts most powerful faction” obviously you haven’t seen my inventory
That and the other factions ya know I wonder if a player made faction will ever exist one you can equip with armor and weapons on a whim
@@dottietyre9062 like a better version of the minutemen?
@@richard-qd3knmy head canon for FO4 minutemen is when Nate wakes up, he rebuilds the commonwealth with the Sim Settlements 2 quest line and mod, builds up a professional military of the minutemen, equipping them with the gear from Militarized Minutemen. That’s my head canon. 😀
@@richard-qd3kn I guess so
Obviously you haven't seen my vault tec
THEY KILLED IT THEY KILLED MY BEAUTIFUL BOY WHYY
Relax, Todd Howard just confirmed that the NCR is still going strong in other parts of California. Watch the recent IGN interview.
After watching the new interview i dont think the ncr is dead,Keep in Mind They controlled the entirety of California And Shady sands was prob Changed as the capital
Todd Howard also said that Starfield would be fun
@@Galland780known truth teller Todd Howard
@@Galland780 Yes the same Todd who said fallout 3 had 200 endings
They fucking off-screened NCR.
They’re in the show
@@sercravenmohead3631 They're _mentioned_ in the show
@@TheSundayShooter In the last episode the NCR fights the Brotherhood, they’re in uniform and waving the flag and everything.
@@sercravenmohead3631 They look like Raiders wearing the uniforms of long since fallen Troopers, occupying the ruins of an HQ, subservient to Moldaver, echoing the first episode. In neither form nor function are they NCR
@@TheSundayShooter Explain the charging scene of the NCR flag, or the fact that there is an NCR banner in the fusion room. How about the Ghouls living with regular people which is unique to the NCR most factions or independent cities don’t allow. It’s heavily implied they’re NCR and as for the end credit animations it shows NCR vertibirds and other NCR iconography, what you’re arguing is essentially these are raiders who are friendly supporters of egalitarianism with NCR flags waving around. The depictions of these fighters is probably the realistic interpretation of what an NCR soldier looks like considering it’s post-apocalypse and they rely on scavenged equipment albeit somewhat standardized. Everyone appears to be in an NCR styled uniform wearing the same colors as if in an organized faction.. they’re clearly the NCR.
Me after watching the fallout show: what did they do to my boy
It gets nuked by some old guy
@@JohnDoe-sl6di By Vault-Tec because somehow they're in the Heartland of the NCR.
NCR deserves it, mfers tax people in the apocalypse. Hold this L bozo.
Todd couldn't except any fallout that wasn't his own so he cleaned the slate with everything done with fallout 1/2/nv
@@Wanderer08 Because we never could have guessed that the true masterminds were Vault-Tec all along! ...especially because Fallout 2 directly establishes them as underlings of the Enclave.
I love how 3 games show us the history of NCR. In the 1st Fallout we may see a little town fighting with scorpions and bandits, while in the 2nd game a little town grew up in the capital city with laws, advanced technology and army! And in New Vegas NCR is a huge country, which, despite lots of problems, is still trying to develop!
And now the fallout v show will bring all that to an end cuz bethesda has to ruin everything.
@@PrivateDoge I really hope they won't ruin it!
@@gladiatorone9023 I hope so too, but the most recent trailer has kinda already sealed the NCR's fate.
And now it’s literally a crater
@@gladiatorone9023 They ruined it ☹
Eastern BoS is somehow gonna find itself, a massive army and unlimited vertibirds on the NCR's doorstep.
Yeah that literally happens lol
@@JohnDoe-sl6diIn the show, the BoS only have one base. It’s not like they dominate the area.
@@harmonlanager2670 they literally do dominate the area
these were spoils of war, some may be their own makings, while others were loots, back then they've fought the Enclave. and learned one good aspects of Chivalry; protect the weak, to earn their harvests.
and these knights and squires of these generations were mostly came from eastcoast wastelanders. something begun with Lyons Family and perfected with Arthur Maxson (who himself treated as the crown prince by the Brotherhood when he was a kid)
The Brotherhood got more vertibirds from Enclave, and even studied these VTOL aircrafts so they could design Prydwen.
@@twat9192 Not really. If they did, they wouldn’t have to fight local towns to establish a foothold or rely on vertibirds and tactical strikes to get anything done. They don’t patrol, they don’t have connections to the towns, and they don’t exact tribute from locals. All of which are common practice from BoS dominated territories
After the series, it became sad that the best faction in the game was treated this way. The Republic will live.
hopefully. but not as superpower as it was. it might be a vassal to the Brotherhood. the may not even permit to live like modern peoples prewar. but live like medieval peasantry without electric power, without pipeline waterworks, and without motorized transportations of any form.
they became very much like Adeptus Mechanicus in Warhammer 40k settings now. originally they were no less different except that they were more of Knight Templars and less of Church. The TV Series made them also church that's not so much different from Admech.
Seasons 2 is TWO years away. who knows if the Republic remnants did found their provisional government elsewhere? maybe even in Arroyo, where they can count upon Vault 13 Dynasty. their benefactors.
Literally the worst most boring fsction in the entire series. Just cooking cutter copy of pre war America. Wow so cool
@@Dungeoneer710thats why people loves the NCR because they are the only faction focusing on developing and rebuilding civilization not like the Enclave and BoS killing each other for god knows why
@randommangofan5737 while they would probably be the best faction out of them all in real life. As a video game faction I find them incredibly boring
Who else is here to remind them selves what the NCR actually is after watching the fallout show
The faction better than all east coast factions
Lol, bear f**kers go boom
@@flawlessgamer7549 fine bethesda storytelling lol
What is the NCR? Unfortunately “nothing, anymore” is the answer.
@@QualityPen By Fallout: NV The NCR are an over extended and starving nation locked in a losing war where their best troops are busy defending Brahmin barons due to political corruption, or chasing ghosts in Baja, according to Chief Hanlon
If they kill the NCR in the show I am gonna be pissed
Even though they were on the verge of collapse in New Vegas?
@@filthycasual8187 The Mojave Campaign was on the verge of collapse, not the entire NCR. Keep in mind that they control a vast territory from Baja in the south all the way to Arroyo in the north, and that we never enter the NCR proper during the course of the game. The collapse of the mojave campaign would certainly cost the NCR, probably causing Kimball to resign and creating a political shift towards consolidation away from their current policy of expansion, but you can hardly take the instability of the literal frontier and project it onto the entire nation. The NCR proper is going to be much more stable than what we see in-game.
@@filthycasual8187 After the events of New Vegas they would have probably reallocated resources to fill gaps left over from the war. Caesar was going to die sooner or later given the amount of powerful enemies he made and brain cancer. Without Caesar, the Legion would most certainly splinter and disband much of their forces. Fascism tends to not be very stable when a change in leadership takes place. NCR on the other hand has more grounds for stability and House being a smart businessman is quick to recognize that business with the NCR means he can further achieve his goals so House would most likely side with the NCR either as a state or an allied city-state. If they are on the verge of collapse, then Caesar's Legion is already dead.
@@Fusseliko Nah it’s actually screwed. Hanlon tells you their natural water supplies are all drained up like lakes and Hildern says there will be a famine soon after a decade if they don’t get the information from Vault 22 (which in of is very dangerous). No Mojave means no new water supply from Hoover Dam/Lake Mead and not to mention an NCR loss would cause the same cultural shift in the mainland that you would see after America lost Vietnam
@@nickkennedy9034 Yeah, I personally don't think that the Legion will actually fall apart with the death of Caesar. Definitely will lose a huge amount of it's momentum with the loss of his administrative capabilities when it comes to pushing the NCR. Legion already kind of carved out a decent territory in the east of the Colorado river to rule over if it had to. Definitely room for a civil war or two, but that is kind of fitting for a faction that tries to act like Rome.
Man, I loved the NCR because it was the symbol of the resilience of the human spirit. Even in the face of Armageddon, the NCR still thrived and prospered. It sucks that Bethesda way of dealing with it was to nuke it.
most updated narrative is that the reformed Brotherhood of Steel took what supposed to be the Republic's last bastion.
Iron Plague based on one of the two Brotherhood bad endings is set in motion.
but who knows. so far only Prydwen hovers above what's once was L.A. but not norh of it.
New Reno and Vault City may declare independence. but B a s t a r d Bishop who his real father later became a 'prince' of New Arroyo still rule Reno. and Bishop Family is pro-NCR. Vault City.. not sure if they simply break away.
The only possible yet another Last Bastion of the republic should be New Arroyo. especially since Vault Dweller Dynasty has always been a benefactor to the Republic. The Dynasty would take charge as a new leader.
Still the Brotherhood would blackmail the Dynasty claiming that their ancestors were once also their benefactors. they even offer an Elder Council position to leader of Arroyo in exchange of absolute support to the Brotherhood and dissolution of the Republic.
End of Season 1 would be the Brotherhood finally conquered NCR and replace the Congress with their quasi-monarchy. Arthur Maxson himself is so ambitious to the point of naming the Brotherhood prideful airship Prydwen. after King Arthur's ship. no doubt this Maxson kid saw himself The King. and ideologically incompatible with NCR federal republicanism.
The Western Brotherhood. which the very organization itself originated, welcomes Eastern Chapter with open arms.
and so Mojave chapter will soon follow. news of the Republc downfall would please them and reaffirm their faiths in the Brotherhood and more importantly, to Arthur Maxson. something Mojave Chapter is long for after Elijah's blunders and eventual betrayal.
Isn’t it as much arrogance as it is resilience? It thrived, then it died.
I wish Fallout 5 would not feature the Brotherhood so extensively. There are other interesting factions than the Brotherhood.
That’s like asking Gamesworkshop not to feature spacemarines
@@sercravenmohead3631tbh it’s not like Bethesda can Enclave can come back other stuff can happen. They’re not gamesworkshop though they don’t got a grip on anything
Joining the Enclave will be *unique.*
Back Isles did set a brand tradition to have BOTH Brotherhood and Super Mutants. though story did progress. where Player doesn't neccessaryr begins in the Vault (Fallout 1 player began as Vault 13 residents who's sent on a mission to find a working water processing chip, Fallout 2 player began as his grandchild, a tribesman but no longer lives underground. New Vegas, player's past is very vague and subjected to player's freedom of choice through dialogues and character creations (one might add Wild Wasteland perk at the beginning, but not with level ups), no mention that he/she might come from any Vault-tec Vaults. but likely a californian. and was once a caravan guard (dialogue with someone who remember player character), and his / her previous job is the deliver a package without being informed what it is (but is related to the Enclave, their sworn enemy. too bad the NCR chose to sacrifice an entire battalion to prevent Legion's capture, in the end the package destroyed an entire city, and crated what's known as The Divide, and this angered Ulysses so much so he wanted the Courier dead, it is possible that he even informed Benny about who carried the Platinum Chip.).
@@user-ly6pl5ot9m Fallout 5 should now focus on Enclave. as player faction, and player has to decide its future.
Imagine winning so much you push deep into Arizona only for it to backfire when a fleet of vertibirds in a armored zeppelin make a beeline for your heartland.
The B.O.S is taking a page from the SS book I see
@@Voltboy1449 No because the BOS are the good guys
@@misterpotato427 hey you can use blitzkrieg and not be a bad guy
@@misterpotato427the bos has literally become a cult full of head hunters. With good guys like them who needs bad guys...
@@misterpotato427fallout 4, the BOS aren’t they suck now just like every other faction on the east coast now after New Vegas.
It’s gone guys, BUT BY GOD WE SHALL MAKE IT RETURN!
Its not gone only the capital was nuked bro
@@fancymercenary7213the NCR nation spanned all of California. Where is the civilisation?
@@arawn1061Todd Howard it's still going strong apart from shady sands
@@RandomVidsforthought Todd howard is doing damage controll. Doesnt matter
@@arawn1061 No
The NCR is my favorite faction in the fallout universe, I just worry about how they will be portrayed in the Fallout Tv show, as for the most part the NCR is rebuilding the wasteland they control, in the fallout tv show it looks like they haven’t had any progress in doing so
1.) It's the Boneyard, which we never saw in Fallout 2 so there's no telling what its aesthetic state was at the time. Realistically it was probably still a shithole.
2.) The NCR is in a sorry state in New Vegas, on the verge of collapse. While I too don't want to see it fall, I have to admit it kinda makes sense that it would given how quickly they overstretched themselves.
@@filthycasual8187 it is true that it is the boneyard and I don’t expect it to be in first world country conditions all the way but it would have been nice to see more progress especially as the NCR had been rebuilding to some degree since the boneyard became part of the NCR in 2189, as to the second part, no the NCR was not on the brink of collapse, it was stretched thin yes especially in the Mojave but not on the brink of collapse
@@prezmeji5641Again, considering how overstretched they were, and how corrupt the government was, the NCR basically WAS on the brink of collapse in FNV. No matter how the game ends, the NCR's not in a good place.
@@filthycasual8187they were overstretched but hardly on the brink of collapse.
@@filthycasual8187 The Mojave campaign was on the verge of collapse, not the NCR itself.
This aged like milk sadly, damn Bethesda. I hope the House always wins then
Looking at the strip, house in fact did not win
@@friedrice9848With Bethesda Fallout only the junk merchants and radroaches win, because its writers and artists refuse to write anything other than people living in trash huts.
Ave, True to Caesar.
@@QualityPen not true. There are also supermutants everywhere. Even though they should not exist on the east coast
@@MinecraftKarol2005Why not exactly? Is it so inconceivable to imagine that Mariposa wasn’t the only facility experimenting with FEV?
From what we can guess i highly doubt the NCR “are gone” this was most likely a splinter cell of what’s left of the shady sands area, we still have the hub (second largest NCR city) and many other locations in other states, I’m sure we will see plenty more of them.
God i hope so.
I don't think Bethesda knows that
@@alexloponte7056 im sure they do
@@alexloponte7056 The showrunners don't know that though. They probably just assumed the NCR was a city state and Shady Sands is just postwar LA. It's pretty clear to me that Nolan has a very surface level understanding of the lore given how he completely misinterpreted Vault-Tec as being some sort of postwar shadow government (that's the Enclave's role, all the games have made that very clear. The Enclave has always been shown to be completely in control of the vaults) as well as turning the western BOS into the Commonwealth BOS but with lore inaccurate religious elements. Anyway I still have faith that things could improve in the second season, but that faith is pretty miniscule at this point. In terms of official content this series is nearly dead, just look forward to the excellent content being made by modders.
@@BobLoblaw223 They are butchering the ncr on purpose
It seems as if the two headed bear has gone the same direction as the bull fought against.
A lot of people give the ncr shit but i believe that it is the best faction to live under (as an average wastelander)
On average, I would have to agree.
Just because it's the best place to live in the wasteland doesn't mean it doesn't suck but then again i would take ncr over the legion any day
@@thesneakman8064being a civilian in the legion would be pretty rad as long as youre okay with living without drugs and technology
@@umbers28not even fully either, limited tech is allowed and soft drugs like alcohol and tobacco IIRC are legal, I’d say it’s probably safer on avg than NCR, but NCR has a lot more freedom, it’s really just a matter of security v. liberty
@@singles3rvingjack i mean, personally if i had the choice it would be like
As a civilian, id wanna join the legion
As a soldier, id wanna join the NCR
At best the NCR is still standing but weakened in 2296. They just lost their first capital in the TV series. And given the loses the NCR endured in the Mojave Comapign 15 years earlier, they probably don't have the manpower or recources to resecure the LA area as it stands - especially with a resurgant Brotherhood of Steel making gains in the lands around the Shady Sands Crater - and are probably focusing on rebuilding from either The Hub, Dayglow, or Vault City. These 3 cities being the most likely settlements the NCR are reorganizing from.
I wonder if Season 2 will introduce a new “main” character to follow as they help revive the NCR. Cuz, with Lucy and Ghoul together in New Vegas and Norm presumably becoming a popsicle. We will only really have Maximus’s perspective to switch to when not on Lucy&Ghoul.
Season 1 had us follow ~4.5ish different perspectives , so It’d be strange for Season 2 to have 2 different perspectives.
@@dominator1914 New Vegas canon ending is not answered yet.
Didn't you forget Arroyo? Vault 13 Dynasty is an NCR benefactor.
It’s crazy how so many of us called it. Todd would not accept any faction stronger than the brotherhood, or one that had indoor plumbing, or lore that is longer than a small wiki entry. Ironically, the NCR was so powerful that only writer’s fiat could get rid of it. And before somebody copes about how “muh hub” “muh shady sands isn’t all ncr” keep in mind that Bethesda/Amazon either don’t know or don’t care about any of that. If there is no Boneyard, and Shady Sands is for some reason near LA (formerly boneyard) then you can discount the rest of it as well. Just accept old Fallout is gone forever and that’s it.
Good rittance.
@@user-tz7gj3if4t An unequivocally L take
@@user-tz7gj3if4t yeah man enjoy your todd slop with literally zero creativity
What a shame they did that.
@@user-tz7gj3if4t eat that slop
AND NOW THEY FUCKING GONEEEEEEEE
If they get clapped in the show I'm gonna be mad
They’re not in the show it’s the bos that’s why it’s gonna suck
@@donotcareatall haven't you watched the trailer ? You can see them battle against the bos at multiple times
@@kelsiel6147 have you seen the trailer? That’s not NCR there’s videos covering this
@@donotcareatall but it is
@@donotcareatall at 2:25 czcams.com/video/V-mugKDQDlg/video.html
aand now bethesda is going to send the NCR back into the stone age from the looks of these trailers….. :(
also the video is really good, good job making and editing it. the intro is obnoxiously long though. youtube is a format split between people actively watching and passively listening. to the passive listeners, the intro is completely useless and almost convinced me to stop watching/listening from how annoying the song was and how long it dragged on. the rest of the video is pretty much perfect though.
Thanks for the constructive criticism, debated on shortening it or removing it for a while. I probably won’t do something that long again.
Tbf the NCR wasn’t exactly in the best state in NV either. Societies that severely overstretch themselves can and do collapse.
@@baneofbanes This is always, in my opinion, the worst counter argument whenever I bring up the NCR collapsing making little to no sense (at least in the way bethesda will probably write it out to be). The United States was arguably very overstretched during Vietnam, has it collapsed? Britain was overstretched while it had the 13 colonies and India, has their whole society collapsed now? Further, the way the Mojave was portrayed in NOT the way life seems to be actively inside New California. Despite its problems, it seems relatively livable compared to somewhere like the Capital Wasteland. What would it take for the people of the Boneyard to revert back to Mad-max style savages (as we see in the trailer) we haven’t seen on the West-Coast since Fallout 1?
Countries collapsing rarely looks like they’ve been turned back to monkeys, especially when talking about this vague notion of “being overstretched”, unless they’ve had a whole few thousand nukes dropped on them or they’re already really primitive to begin with. The NCR obviously isn’t primitive so it looks like from the trailer (especially the bombed out shady sands) it seems like Bethesda will have the East Coast BoS join back up with West Coast and drop a nuke or heavily bomb the NCR. Just all around slop-tier writing seems like. But hey, I could be wrong and this could totally be Westworld season 1 all over again! right?
But it seems like though that Bethesda is just trying to colonize some beloved lore from the three greatest games of all time, Fallout 1, 2, & NV and consolidate it with the new quirky post-apocalyptic themed disneyland ride they’ve created with Fallout 4.
NCR brought this on themselves since they began expanding eastward. The East is a trap that the bear is stuck in
This video to me is very sad because there are a lot of people out there, including myself that the fallout TV show is going to show the NCR pretty much completely wiped out, if not barely standing. Which would be incredibly disappointing to see.
"BUt tHe BOs iS sO gooD, thEY HaVe POwEr ArMor"
@@alexloponte7056 and to that I say no war has been won with just tanks
@@dragoncat5412 Yeah
Yup that’s basically what happens. Some old guy. Not the master, not the enclave, not caesar, some old white from vault 33
@@JohnDoe-sl6di Yep just found that out binged to the entire series until 2 AM I’m pretty pissed.
!!!(Spoilers)!!!
Every single faction from new Vegas is basically fucked now.
The people from California as a revenue source. Same goes with yes man. Caesars Legion should basically be able to take over Vegas with to no problems.
All of the other places that were built up in fallout one and two aren’t even referenced not a single hint that they’re even active anymore. They’re just gone.
The most out of the blue thing that nobody could’ve expected from 200 years later after vault techs complete annihilation. Coming up out of nowhere to completely annihilate the California Republic that we’ve actively witnessed in participated in the birth of in three games all of those different multiple endings all of those choices all of the things that we got to do and see they were all meaningless. They did nothing. They all didn’t matter.
Watch the Fallout show make this video "how the NCR USED to be the most powerful faction"
they did
SitRep: Confirmed
I believe the NCR is the best of the four main factions in New Vegas. They're far from perfect, but they can do more for the Mojave in the long run than any of the others.
Legion, House, and Yes Man are dead ends or have limited sights.
While House has a long-term plan to revitalize New Vegas, he's cocky, assuming he wouldn't be corrupt or the people he puts in charge wouldn't be corrupt.
The Legion is ass backward. Sure, Roman was great at one point in time. But throwing all collective knowledge and history off a cliff is a good way to ensure your society ends up in an early grave.
Yes Man ensures that New Vegas is free but remains in an anarchist state, with no rules, no gods, no one leading it. Vegas will remain stuck post 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam.
Ncr is now dead per the show. They show Vegas at the end but it also looks dead so house most likely didn’t win. Most like an independent Vegas win or a caesar legion win
@@JohnDoe-sl6di More likely Mr House. I mean after all they probably hired the actor for a reason.
@@someguy9293 It's not necessarily the Ceaser's Legion's Backward system of government. After all, the Brotherhood of Steel's government seems to be close to feudalism. The problem is Ceaser's Legion doesn't use technology and, in fact, reject it (refusing modern medicines, for example). The ones who will win is one that embraces technology and millitarism.
@@someguy9293 nah. the Yes Man ending narraves said after a big chaos. it will emerge. but under whom if Courier is not interested with governance or ruling over? (it is assumed The Courier has no memorires of 'New Vegas', he/she might have been there in their respective youth but as a ruined cities full of tribes and a rather successful Khanate) but later became an overlord of Big Empty. (and later a target to the Brotherhood as of this TV Serires).
1. Kings? well with popular support (fueled by the Followers of Apocalypse, Kings are their ally) and without troublemaking Pacer. (i'd like him to die out of Psycho needle prank)
2. Three Families? probably not Omertas (either NCR or Securitrons would kill them off, they're ally to the Legion without knowing what will they do to them next. having roots being denizens of long lost Roman Empire doesn't help either), the Chairmen or White Gloves Society might be.
so far I don't see anyone else fittings to rule Free Vegas. and surely Fiends will be out of power structures. they may not be easy prey but their leaders will eventually be flushed out if The Courier didn't. but with so much loss of life and too many plunders Fiends did.
But how will the government of Free Vegas be? Monarchy may not be possible despite that Kings are very much nominally associated with that system. it might be Directory made of leaders of so many main factions. similiar to French Directoire before Sieyes invited Napoleon to stage a Coup d'Etat at the end of 18th Century.
brahmin barons get slavaged power armor troopers as guards, back home, a region with little to no raider presence, yet recruits are sent to fight the legion with 2 weeks of training, no armor just fatigues, and a service rifle
the ncr's doom is corrupt officials while the good hearted little man pays the price
Hardly a doom, more likely to end up as a stalemate, I doubt most factions could actually invade the NCR's heartland because of said Brahmin Barons (Not saying it isn't corrupt, but what nation isn't in Fallout)
so they’re REALLY gunning to emulate old american values, eh?
Shhh, the fanboys may hear you.
@@EA-wr2xgthe Republic of Dave
@@scpfoundation2040Strongest republic in the wastes!!!
Can't believe it Bethesda literally killed most beloved factions by the fans
The most beloved faction is by no doubt the Brotherhood. It's the OG faction.
@@nyxi6689not really. Id say the NCR is much more popular. At least among more hardcore fans.
@@bobskywalker2707you got to remember that their are a lot more fallout 4 fans, than NV fans.
@@kaiserwilhelm8029 but new Vegas fans are one of the most dedicated parts of the fandom.
True
Here before the Fallout Show has some stupid scene or something in which the Brotherhood of Steel wiped out the NCR and took over control of the east coast!
Never mind the fact, that NCR steamrolled BOS.
@@russianoverkill3715
After getting their teeth kicked in at first because the BoS did their best to attack small, poorly defended locations because even they *knew* that getting caught by the NCR military was a quick way to literally get slaughtered by weight of numbers an a fuckton of EMP grenades.
I bet FNV isn't even canon in the show.
@@suckassmork2972 we see the NCR flag in the trailer, but im not optimistic considering theres a crater where shady sands used to be
@@insertsomethingfuni2617That's not Shady Sands. The sign may say "Shady Sands," but it's not Shady Sands; Shady Sands wasn't anywhere near an urban center of any kind and you can clearly see the Boneyard (which is supposed to be 200 miles away) in the background. My guess is that the library you see is actually the one the Followers operated out of and the crater's what is left of the Master's cathedral, since they were right next to each other.
Nobody
Some fucking 200 year old human popsicle 💥💥💥
Meat popsicle?
Big oof moment right here after the show
NCR... The nation that grew with us.
Legion - how a bunch of Roman coaplayers proved that a Post-Post Apocalypse can still have teeth, world, setting... And a bunch of lunatics less armed than you, but still be a major threat to people.
House - a fast talking, smart con artist that still can convince you that he is a better choice than everyone else when he has made the worst choices.
It is these three banners that I look up to... And the dread I feel fearing the Fallout Live Action show.
As the Brotherhood of Steel shall be made into big bad government and everyone acting as if the bombs just fell as the NCR never existed.
eventually they will do.
and this is what 'Iron Plague' is. literally the Brotherhood doesn't like wastelanders to have the same hitech amenities they have. the don't like wasteland people to have electricity, pipeline waterworks or motorized transportations.
If bethesda destroys the NCR i will need to check my self in to a mental health hospital probely had a rought year cant handle seeing my NCR boys amd gals die 😢
The show appears to have destroyed the N.C.R.
@MrPikaGammer the NCR will probably still appear but weakened. Maybe due to the failed Mojave Campaign
@Spongebrain97 maybe the lonesome road dlc actually happened and the ncr got nuked. That would take balls, though, and good-ass writing.
@@mofopeolaleye8187The courier probably has a grudge against the NCR…. Hold on since this is an Amazon show does it mean that the courier will show up as a black women ????
@@MrPikaGammer o in that case check me in boys not gonna lie The NCR is my favorite an my all time best thing i ever have wittnest if they ar ruind may rest their Brave soul 😢
Sorry, but Bethesda just nuked NCR into waste...thanks Todd Howard.
Such a shame too
BASED BETHESDA
Also , it was just one city , dude
@@oolooo it's only the CAPITAL
Chris Avellone litterally advocate for this to happen 10 fucking years ago lmao
@@elcouz503ncr was already crumbling during New Vegas, Tandi was their Caesar and when she died the ncr began to crumble
Rip NCR
Thank you Todd Howard for ruining everything about the NCR
Watch Bethesda destroy decades of decent writing and lore by making the BoS a whole major faction in the east coast
😭
they haven't been the brotherhood since fallout 2
they became the bethesda of steel from 3 onwards because their audience has the thinking capacity of an 8 year old
@@garadak7.The Brotherhood and Power Armored factions have always been Posterboys for the Fallout franchise.
Obsidian literally set them up for a slow descent by the time of New Vegas. The NCR dollar's value plummeted after the BoS war when their gold reserves were destroyed, in New Vegas the exchange rate is 100 NCR Dollars for 40 bottlecaps.
Corruption runs rampant among politicians and the ruling class. NCR is hard at work to expand their territory, but this results in them being stretched thin in those areas being unable to deal with relatively small issues such as the escaped convicts at Primm, or the NCRCF.
The NCR's biggest goal as of New Vegas is to take full control over Hoover dam for it's electricity and to absorb the city of New Vegas under their nation.
Should they fail at both, they have suffered an immense loss or resources and people at their campaign, meaning they'd have to pull further back and regroup to gather their strenght. Leaving a lot of newly acquired territory.
If Bethesda is canonizing the Mr. House ending (not unlikely) then by the TV show, 15 years later, the NCR will be considerably smaller.
Should the East Coast Brotherhood send reinforcements to the West after their success in the Commonwealth, I can see the reignition of the NCR BOS war happening, in which case the small tidbits we've seen from the Fallout TV show trailer, is a correct.
Being built on the pre-war government, the NCR is destined to fail the same. Because war, war never changes.
@@doggiethepug Indeed, idk why people love to ignore all the lore in NV hinting at their incoming collpase.
My personal headcanon is that House wins in new vegas & the ncr shrinks back into California, but because they aren't as spread thin they avoid collapse.
Well….this aged like milk
RIP the NCR, it was good while it lasted
What happened did something bomb there way
😢
I mean, we can’t speak so soon since it only said Shady since the FIRST capital of the ncr meaning they probably moved elsewhere
No, just Bethesda being incompetent. The NCR writting is fine, it has been for 3 entire games.
If the NCR is dead can we all just disregard the show as canon
WAS Fallout's Most Powerful Faction
Until Todd decided he hated them
@@jasondouglas6755 no theyre by far the most popular, they were just narratively too strong. they already controlled the west coast, had means of production, infrastructure, & functional goverment/ society. only option was to have them sucseed and rebuild america at which point fallout ends, or knock them back down to nothin and thats what they did
Love the use of the state song at the start! Really fits better than something like California dreaming.
fallout essays my beloved
Vault tec: THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN! ☢️
The NCR settlements make me jealous
Preston, you'll love it there my man! Esablish the Minutmen somewhere else and leave the commonwealth please :)
And take Mama Murphrey with you 💀
@@creativeyoutubeaccountname1813 Who's Mama Murphrey? Is she anything like Mama Murphy?
I choose to believe they are still around just weakened.
I doubt it.
The HQ of the NCR, Remnants of the NCR, etc.
I'm guessing that they're 'wiping the slate clean.'
We already lost the enclave. We cannot loose the NCR to the Brotherhood too
To be fair, the enclave came back so the NCR might too
The enclave was always meant to be destroyed.
This aged well
Yep… well I’m happy about one thing. The enclave is back I guess
Everyone is talking about the ncr and whether its the best faction or not, but i want to point out how good this editing is, especially for a channel your size. Keep it up and i think youll eventually get big. Good luck man.
Thanks man! Really appreciate it
Np
@@Iron_Age where did u learn to edit, cus this is really impressive
@@kurgee self taught, just downloaded DaVinci on an off day and started from there
When Legion meets the REAL NCR, not just some undersupplied frontier Mojave force, they will meet someone they can only wish to defeat
The Divide getting nuked literally saved the Legion from getting curbstomped. Imagine an NCR that doesn't need to worry about the I-15 and it being a logistical bottleneck.
Shady Sands be like:
Look how they massacred my boy
The quality of this video is amazing man, I love these "documentary/historical" types of videos, keep it up
Absolutely love this lore breakdown. Thanks for the video, awesome work. Really great in all parts.
I feel like it would be cool and interesting if we could go back to California in a future fallout title and possibly help them by being a secret agent for a future president, or a detriment.
It’s on the tv show and it got wiped out by some old guy
so the spoilers are true.....god damn
Didnt dr hildern at OSI in mccarran say that ncr was facing a pandemic level food shortage and thats why they sacrificed so many mercs at vault 22. The more i think about there is no right answer to fnv
He said they're not facing food shortages yet, but that they're looking to the future and attempting to get ahead of the probability of that happening in the future.
Sharecropper farms was struggling, but that was more because of the situation with the pump station and the pressure from the legion at the damn than because of a shortage, perse
The NCR by the time of Vegas are walking in thin ice on having a crisis on their hands. Dust is fan made but honestly is the closest to what I think would go down in NV the NCR simply are following old world mistakes
The shortage was predicted in the next decade or so. Actually, thats around when the tv show takes place...
@@allenaju1856the creator of Dust is a self admitted Legion fanboy, it's a heavily biased mod that slanders the N.C.R. pretty hard.
@@MrPikaGammer okay and a NCR fanboy any different *cough* Frontier. I wouldn’t even call it slander as it’s not completely within character but it’s not something they wouldn’t do. For example taking back the Mojave and labeling Courier 6 a terrorist of the NCR. The ONLY slandering thing I can definitely say is how the NCR as a whole would treat civilians but at the same time NV had cut content making the NCR a lot more imperialist than they are currently. The NCR in canon aren’t even the good guys just a group that has been able to bring some form of stability with the price of loosing some freedoms and you only can experience the full NCR benefits by living closer to the mainlands of the NCR unlike Mojave which is the frontier but the issue is that going to the frontier of the NCR is the ONLY option anyone in the NCR has to make a good living tycoons run the economy on the NCR and the political game. The NCR make similar old word mistakes they are known to try to weaponize tech from the old world. The whole Sierra Madre thing doesn’t sound to far off.
Dude I'm loving your style of video craft. Keep it up. Super informative, long form, to the point.
Yeah? It's not even his script. He literally just ripped off the entire NCR article at the Fallout wiki word for word without attribution.
Long live the NCR!🫡
NCR sucks
This aged well...
Very well.
By the way, they're probably going to destroy every faction other than the Brotherhood of Steel. Which includes Mr House and Ceaser's Legion.
Bethesda:
I ain’t reading all that
Here’s BoS just being the stereotypical soldier faction
I do not look forward to the series confirming that the N.C.R. fell just so that the West Coast can match the East's desolate ruins.
Because we can't have society progress in Fallout y'know, everything HAS to be as if the bombs just fell a few decades ago.
Yes, following the same path as the old world will lead to the same end. NCR and Pre-War America both fell into the same trappings
@todd2.08 i mean i could buy that but the plot would have to be more developed. It could be that the east coast bos continued their spree of conquering the east coast until they got to the stage of being comparable with the ncr and the ncr and east coast bos eventually nuked eachother. But this would all have to be at the very end of the fallout franchise.
@@mappingshaman5280 More likely that East BOS reconnected with West BOS and helped them fight the now weakened NCR
@@todd2.08 the westcoast bos is almost wiped out
@@todd2.08 Vault-Tec nuked the NCR it's downfall had nothing to do with their own problems.
I really love the introduction. You have allowed me to see the quality on CZcams.
Thank you, and nice pfp
I love the NCR. I didn't play Fallouts 1 or 2. I only played New Vegas. I immediately fell in love with the NCR. Sure, they aren't perfect, and they can be Imperialist and aggressively expansionist. They tend to fix more problems, treat strangers with kindness, and at times help people who aren't part of them.
Sure, they got tons of problems. But who doesn't?
The NCR, in short, may be, not be the best. But they'll do far more good for the Mojave than the Legion, Mr. House, and Yes Man.
It's worse if you played them in order, because the first town in F1 is Shady Sands and it's a little dirt village that you help by killing giant rad scorpions for, then find it again in F2 and its grown into a real town and your like. I did that.
Great video love the break down. For the Republic!
Sooo... this did not age well. You, err, might want to redo this video my guy. Poor NCR, you did your best, only to be killed off by bad writing. The Fallout TV series is officially considered canon. What worries me now is what they're going to do with the rest of New Vegas considering the show will be heading there for season 2. They WILL have to decide who wins at Hoover Dam.
Fun times ahead.
no fuck tod coward i refuse to bow to his vendetta against obsidian
“Bad writing.” Or maybe you just don’t like the direction it went with? Cuz it sure as hell isn’t bad writing. The NCR was headed to extinction one way or another.
@@dominator1914 Not because of a old fucking white guy who was mad at his fuckin wife nuked their capital
This is such a great video! I love the "I love you California". Very nice touch. I've never heard of your channel before, but I'll subscribe if you continue to do banger Fallout videos like this, with lots of great oldies music thrown In.
Fallout Series never indicates all NCR has fallen guys.
All we know is that Shady Sands is gone and the capital was moved to another city, and NCR is no more IN THAT AREA of southern California (the ones we see are just remnants), we're never told "NCR is completely destroyed".
at this timeline Bishops still rule Reno. this family is Pro-NCR. and this Bishop leader is born out of adultery.
(too bad this fam didn't reform Reno to fit with NCR standards. too many illegal activites still running even this city is inside NCR proper and even with Bishops support NCR)
and Fallout2 endings narrative (one of many) said he lives for 70 years. as of TV Serires he would still be alive as middle aged man.
the mroe likely new capitol might be Arroyo. Vault13 Dynasty has alwasy been benefactors to the Republic since its foundings.
It is sad to say that our NCR brothers are no longer the strongest
If it makes everyone feel any better, the NCR being nuked wasn't out of the picture. In fact, Van Buren (the original Fallout 3 planned under Black Isle) would have featured the NCR facing a losing war against the Brotherhood of Steel. Chris Avellone (lead designer for all the NCR DLC) hated the NCR and he felt like Fallout was becoming too post-post apocalyptic. He was always looking for a way to wipe the slate clean (hence stuff like the fog from the Sierra Madre and Tunnelers).
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say just because two guys might have planned that it's a less bad thing
@@justusvontropfstein8605 It was just Chris (who had been working on Fallout since Fallout 2). Van Buren was the project name for the original Fallout 3 before Bethesda bought the IP. Point Im trying to make is that one of the OLD SCHOOL Fallout lead developers had planned to disintergrate NCR at some point. People are acting like Bethesda is doing something new when the old developers had already planned it long before Bethesda even bought the IP.
@@_crimson_982 I already understood that, what I'm saying is that it's irrelevant what they might have done and what not since we see in Fallout NV that the NCR still has problems but nothing that justifies a collapse and the game is from the original developers My point is it may not be a new idea, but it is a stupid idea which is probably the reason why they didn't destroy the NCR in NV
Y'know me an a buddy were actually talking eariler today about what might be explained in the Amazon series before I found this vid. We speculate that due to the failed expansion into the Mojave, the NCR might have collapsed in some form or fashion, leaving a power vacuum that the BoS would jump at the chance to fill. I guess this is why we only got one look at NCR troops in the trailers which depict them as being no more than just a militia cell.
that's just fanfiction though, the real reason is that Bethesda genuinely hates the original games and that there could be anything more to fallout than the brotherhood and bottle caps
@@alphabromega859yeah I mean who is interested in any story that’s not “gotta find my dad/son/overseer”
Loved hearing my state’s anthem
Not anymore. :(
Sir this video is gorgeously made.
LOOK ITS ME!!!
Thanks for the thumbnail!
I love the NCR!
Well, according the the TV show, the NCR is dead now RIP.
Makes sense that a government that imitates the old world, with its flaws and all, dies out.
@@Bigdaddymittens who are you ulysses? or why are you babbling such nonsense
This video aged like brahmin milk
I think the NCR is the best hope for the wasteland.
If only they were on both sides of post apocalyptic America
I like this and all your work. :)
Thank you!
Once Most Powerful*
rip
Dude i love these videos
The NCR lives the bear still has a head!
By the thumbnail I thought this was a Simple History parody.
Well, this aged poorly, now that new vegas isnt canon and the NCR was destroyed.
Absolutely just lied just seen a scene where it says the NCR was destroyed in 2277. What the actual fuck.
New Vegas was confirmed to still be canon and the NCR is still alive, although on life support.
@@noisydoc6606 almost all dialogue from the NCR about their internal politics is literally impossible because Shady sands fell four years before they are literally as we spoke in new vegas, having major political meetings in Shady sands. So unless it fell, rose again, and then was nuked again...
@@thelordofcringethat’s my biggest question with the chalkboard. Why would they decide to nuke it in 2277 or 2281? They decided to wait until the ncr became a massive power in the region, why not nuke them 40 years prior when their still trying to get on their feet
@@noisydoc6606 at least they’re not fully dead I guess, still sucks a lot, makes everything we do in New Vegas to improve the NCR feel kinda useless
All hail the New California Republic
I love your use of the actual California Anthem at the begining lol
Wait, weren't Redding, New Reno, Vault City, Modoc, and Arroyo incorporated into the NCR as well, as states?
They're either states or close trading partners. Vault City joining the NCR directly is seen as one of the bad endings, so I assume they remain independent and closely aligned with the NCR,
Yep. San Francisco, too, ifi'm not mistaken
Not only the trailers but basically every piece of information we have about the show indicates that not only is the NCR gone, but Vault City and Shi won't exist either. Ironically Bethesda's writing did more damage to the world of Fallout than the nuclear war ever could have. The apocalypse is meant to be a background for interesting scenarios, but Bethesda just repeats the same shit over and over. Just pure slop.
Vault city and shi are in Northern California. It looks like the bomb was isolated on shady sands which is in Los Angeles for some reason
The problem is that they set it in the West Coast where they know nothing about.
Cough cough, setting Shady Sands right next to LA, cough cough.
It would be nice if we heard something about Texas, or the Mid United States instead of West (1) West (2) East (3) West (NV) East (4) East (76) West (TV Show.)
@@Wanderer08you mean west?
@@kaiserwilhelm8029 Sorry, yeah I do mean Westcoast.
Why would Vault City or the Shi even be mentioned in the first season of the show? You want to dump all this lore on people who watch the show? That’s not going to be a fun experience. Also, how is Bethesda producing pure slop? Fallout 4, a region has stayed stagnant and paranoid because of a shadow organization. Fallout 3, a divided and reformist Brotherhood must fight to revive the wasteland. Fallout 76, a vile plague has wiped out most life and must be stopped from spreading. These are interesting scenarios made by Bethesda, just sometimes the execution isn’t the best.
Shady sands: 💥☢️💀
BoS: 👻🫡😹
So about that...
damn you todd howard
RIP NCR
As of 2296, the Brotherhood of Steel is undeniably the strongest faction in wasteland United States. The fact that the East Coast BoS can project their power from coast to coast and reinforce western chapters makes them the strongest of the legacy factions
I think game logic clearly shows The Legion is the most powerful faction in the wasteland. At least by the time we hit new vegas, the NCR are nearly in a state of collapse back home with raiders and gangs in the hub again! I cant believe a really strong faction would allow such in one of its main stake cities
Man the worst timing for this video...
I always read through these comment sections about which faction would be better and i think there are a few points that get repeated and people just accept at face value without really examing what it means for the bigger picture.
For instance, i see people bring up a lot that the legion is safer, they have no taxes, but they dont ask why things are that way. Its because they kill or recruit all the raiders, pillage all of the supplies in an area and enslave the majority of women. The weak men get enslaved or killed as well. So yes, its more peaceful going through their lands once they have conquered it, but its not a sustainable practice and at what cost. Even if Caesar lives and the legion doesnt implode, it will eventually become more like the NCR, and thats always been his plan. New raiders and taxes willl eventually pop up.
I also see the point that democracies caused the world to end, and while democracies were present, who fired first is never definitely stated, and the opposing side was not another democracy. And the tensions at the time were from wars over resources, so if you really want to blame anything, its human greed and selfishness thats too blame.
The roman empire fell as well, and i think thats what exactly what you would get if the legion assumed control but sped up dramatically. There would be small periods of peace, but it would eventually become too big for one person to manage and it would just devolve into infighting and splinter. This has happened to every big empire in human history, and while i dont think the ncr is perfect or 100 percent secure in its success its the faction everyone would have a chance to work and make better, and the one i would want to live under.
Might be a little semantic to one of your points, but I am not even sure if the US by the point of the nuclear holocaust or even the resource wars would have been an actual democracy. It gave up on a lot of principles surrounding freedom of speech for one thing to the point of rounding up naysayers to the wars and sending them to be experimented upon at least in Big Mountain as one confirmed case. Also the fact that what became the Enclave was already very well established in the government to be pulling the strings behind the scenes.
In short, democracy was not the cause of the great war that brought humanity to ruination, it was two authoritarian nations pushed to their limits by an unquenchable thirst for energy sources.
@@theo1170 It's fair to call them more authoritarian, but l think it still qualifies for the label of a democracy as long as the elections were fair. The freedom of speech thing is problematic but not necessarily a deal breaker.
People consider Athens one of the first democracies and only men that completed military training were eligible to cast a vote and people considered the US a democracy when it experienced the same limitations (only men can vote and slavery).
So while I agree that the future fallout democracy was dystopian before the crash, it was still more free than living in Athens, or the early United States.
Also hard agree on the energy/resource argument, even though it feels like the world should have pulled through with fusion power and the other technological feats like bio engineering and robotics. Like think about how far the Institute got with one little base. Humanity was on the cusp of post scarcity and they chose death.
I can see why people cling to the stories of the first 2 fallouts and new Vegas, they actually has something to say and actual nations being made in the aftermath. Bethesda tries but it keeps resorting to those apocalyptic factions even hundreds of years later.
I wonder what a fallout game based in Minnesota would be like because it’s close to Canada I kinda think because it’s Minnesota and it’s colder usually here I think it would be interesting if it was a nuclear Winter