$500 Civic vs $50,000 Civic Type-R (THE REMATCH)

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  • čas přidán 17. 12. 2023
  • After spending a full year and $50,000 on our $500 Civic, can it finally take down the new Type-R?
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  • @keeganfaulkner1240
    @keeganfaulkner1240 Před 5 měsíci +6976

    I’ll take the 95 cause the insurance is cheaper

    • @mr.pritchard67
      @mr.pritchard67 Před 5 měsíci +277

      Is it though? It has virtually no anti theft, no safety equipment, and parts will be very expensive to replace. I'm not sure it would be as cheap as you think it would be unless you have shit insurance that wouldn't actually cover it at all.

    • @lusciouslunk
      @lusciouslunk Před 5 měsíci +509

      @@mr.pritchard67insurance is absolutely cheaper

    • @ThEgamingGINJ
      @ThEgamingGINJ Před 5 měsíci +242

      @@mr.pritchard67had a 05 civic insurance was 130 a month now I got a 2020 civic sport and it’s more than double

    • @Umar-gw6fy
      @Umar-gw6fy Před 5 měsíci +251

      It’ll be cheaper if you dont declare mods

    • @88luda88
      @88luda88 Před 5 měsíci +60

      American insurance is interesting

  • @Berm_Blaster
    @Berm_Blaster Před 5 měsíci +5418

    Recovering brand new $2500 seats to match the valve cover is wild 😂

    • @TenthMan-ip2jp
      @TenthMan-ip2jp Před 5 měsíci +848

      They wasted 50k on the car. They put the money in useless brand name parts. Someone that actually knows what they are doing can build a much nicer and faster EG for half the money.

    • @Jackal9405
      @Jackal9405 Před 5 měsíci +154

      Hard to not agree

    • @darceew
      @darceew Před 5 měsíci +148

      ​@@TenthMan-ip2jpvery much agree.

    • @MelleLaCruze
      @MelleLaCruze Před 5 měsíci +221

      @@TenthMan-ip2jp K20 NA with a shorter gear ratio + CUSCO LSD could easily shave another 1-2 seconds and would have only cost 15K tops

    • @ExcessEnergy
      @ExcessEnergy Před 5 měsíci +122

      Because they can; and because they’re probably gonna do more shit to it later

  • @alexkaspi
    @alexkaspi Před 5 měsíci +288

    Would love to see you guys finish up the car with exterior mods, fresh paint, bodywork, etc. Been great watching this build, inspiring!

  • @alanbarrese456
    @alanbarrese456 Před 5 měsíci +36

    This video is another great example of why older Hondas have so much charm and soul to them. It's the same reason I have an S2000 or bought an 8th gen Civic Si as a daily instead of a 10th/11th. No modern Honda engine will sound as good as an old K20. Modern Hondas are still very good cars, especially in terms of chassis dynamics, shifter feel, and interior design, but they lack that certain something that made the older ones special.

    • @roba6812
      @roba6812 Před 2 měsíci +2

      100 percent agree with you!! 8th Gen civic was the last true si!! Had mine for 12 years! Never selling!

    • @adrianbolton9279
      @adrianbolton9279 Před měsícem

      @@roba6812 8th gens look like a 2005 Prius

    • @wally99szarek
      @wally99szarek Před měsícem

      I'm of the opinion that honda lost their spirit when Soichrio Honda died in the late 90's. They're still trying their best but they don't take risks or experiment like they used to. I hope they get it back soon, I'd love a new rwd honda like an s3000 or something

    • @TooCoolToBeUrFriend
      @TooCoolToBeUrFriend Před 22 dny

      I think it's just a nostalgic feeling you got

    • @Jdmking-kp1mu
      @Jdmking-kp1mu Před 11 dny

      I hope Honda can step up their FR 4 banger game again. The S2000 is iconic next to the S Chassis, Miata, and AE86.

  • @daltonsegall3616
    @daltonsegall3616 Před 5 měsíci +989

    It doesn’t have to be 50,000 but restoring an old car like this is why we watch. This is doing what we all wish we could do. Thank you!

    • @miketech2
      @miketech2 Před 5 měsíci +17

      I would love to see an ode to old TopGear and have Jerry v Zac v Nolan compete with $15k builds.
      Make a broad ruleset and let em go to town with build videos over the course of months. Culminating to a final time attack or track day battle.
      It would be so fun to see the diff builds take shape.

    • @focused313
      @focused313 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Lol @ we. Why do y'all do that? Just say, "I".

    • @user-bf6pz6kj8f
      @user-bf6pz6kj8f Před 5 měsíci +3

      Restoring an old car and upgrading it, is the reason im subscribe to them

    • @RefrigeratedTP
      @RefrigeratedTP Před 5 měsíci +2

      Finally bought a dewalt brushless ratchet. Where are all my car parts to use it on? Aw shit.

    • @jaybomb5022
      @jaybomb5022 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@focused313exactly😂

  • @miketech2
    @miketech2 Před 5 měsíci +830

    I would love to see an ode to old TopGear and have Jerry v Zac v Nolan compete with $15k builds.
    Make a broad ruleset and let em go to town with build videos over the course of months. Culminating to a final time attack or track day battle with road trips in between.
    It would be so fun to see the diff builds take shape.

    • @gilbertroberts7843
      @gilbertroberts7843 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Holy shit please!

    • @richtube6084
      @richtube6084 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Dope idea

    • @F0XD1E
      @F0XD1E Před 5 měsíci +1

      Very cool idea although it would be a lot more difficult for them. The BBC/Amazon had a lot more money and definitely provided entire teams to build each car.

    • @KirchTX
      @KirchTX Před 5 měsíci +3

      Donut is the new top gear anyway so may as well. Would love to see some of the things learned from hi low applied when you have an overall budget. Where is the bang for buck? Great idea.

    • @macoady
      @macoady Před 5 měsíci +2

      Instead of one single timed lap do a tour, racing or testing through streets, canyons, track, maybe even somewhere else as well

  • @nvrndingsmmr
    @nvrndingsmmr Před 5 měsíci +35

    Some kind of hood scoop to cover that intake on the EG would be great, like the short, wide ones on STIs. It was cool to see the final results! Great work everyone!

  • @sethcoogan3966
    @sethcoogan3966 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I drove a '94 Civic Hatch, Si version for 10 years. Swapped out the D16Z6 for a B18C. Will never forget all the good memories. This video series on the $500 eg made me smile. Early 2000's era of suped up 90's Civics was a world unto it's own, very special to a whole generation. From all of us, thank you.

  • @pepsibetterthancoke-dk9dz
    @pepsibetterthancoke-dk9dz Před 5 měsíci +1279

    im surprised that this wasn't a money pit series it seems to be the perfect project

    • @bonerici
      @bonerici Před 5 měsíci +154

      for donut, everything is a money pit

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske Před 5 měsíci +5

      They could turn it into a money pit now

    • @clumsygarage1578
      @clumsygarage1578 Před 5 měsíci +56

      They don’t really do named serieses any more it seems. It’s basically money pit.

    • @LvLdGhost
      @LvLdGhost Před 5 měsíci +7

      It’s not a money pit because it’s worth it 💪

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches Před 5 měsíci

      yep@@clumsygarage1578

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 Před 5 měsíci +1055

    Never underestimate a couple guys in a garage building a civic as a joke😂

    • @johnhunter9383
      @johnhunter9383 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Real

    • @jdm_n_german_edits
      @jdm_n_german_edits Před 5 měsíci

      FR

    • @ronaldkuizon5713
      @ronaldkuizon5713 Před 5 měsíci

      Respect 99 like

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Built a CRX like that with some of my friends about 20 years ago when they and B16s were still dirt cheap, one of my favorite car memories ever, that thing was just so raw sounding/feeling with it's lift oversteer, about one step up from being on a bike! These fat new cars with their spaceship handling and fake engine noise will never replicate that! Selling it is one of my biggest regrets, but I needed money for an SR swap at the time 😅

    • @NioRcity
      @NioRcity Před 5 měsíci

      📠

  • @crunchyrin
    @crunchyrin Před 5 měsíci +8

    It's definitely hard to decide ...
    1. The 2023 Civic has warranty for 50k that also includes parts and motor ... already makes 315hp out of the factory.
    2. The enjoyment of building your own Civic is good but the expense include like when the engine fails, electrical works, tuning the car and stuff CAN BE FUN but it's a personal taste.
    3. The old Civic can be made for less if you buy used parts mostly for the interior and would make a decent change to get a turbo for it. Maybe some parts can be bought used or bought from a different brand to change the price a little bit just to squeeze a turbo to even the field from 230hp to at least 280 or even 300 ?
    all and all it's a good little toy to play with

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Not even used parts ditch the intake they put on and go turbo (pretty much the same price)
      Ditch those seats and go with momo ikon nrg jegs sparco. Then don’t wrap the headliner spray it or get suede and do it yourself. Clean and spray the carpet. Then you can still add a touchscreen and backup camera and get a pillar for the gauges and spend about half what they did on the seats alone.

  • @SuperNigel61
    @SuperNigel61 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I really like these episodes because it's always more than numbers and brochure highlights. Driver experience and connection to the car has always been more important in my book. That Civic Type R is wonderful but I would take the build of an EG with the guys over a dealership hand shake.

  • @sylvainjoly1965
    @sylvainjoly1965 Před 5 měsíci +553

    Considering the almost 100hp difference I’m impressed with the time!

    • @terkojakobson
      @terkojakobson Před 5 měsíci +14

      if they finished the filming on wet track, it is likely EG would have beaten the new stock (depending on the tyres) - i take less weight and better handling over more power any day of the week!

    • @ChrisBlagdonIsABoss
      @ChrisBlagdonIsABoss Před 5 měsíci +30

      it's also like a thousand pounds less but sure

    • @LunarKittyLily
      @LunarKittyLily Před 5 měsíci +4

      Factory pilot sport 2s so unlikely​@@terkojakobson

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@terkojakobsonwhat if they filmed this on wet Spa Francorchamps?

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 5 měsíci +3

      Weight.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL Před 5 měsíci +614

    The older Civic definitely holds its charm, and those modifications really make it unique. The sheer fun and adrenaline experienced in the DIY project seemed unbeatable.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci +3

      1993 Civic and 1995 Civic 3Door Hatchback also are still amazing.

    • @PavelKostromitinov
      @PavelKostromitinov Před 5 měsíci +6

      Especially the adrenaline when some of your upgrades blow up...

    • @Oddman1980
      @Oddman1980 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@PavelKostromitinov That rush of wondering how you'll get home! I've been there...

  • @monteboy87
    @monteboy87 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I've never been a Honda guy, and I'm still not, but I 100% respect the work that went into that build. Looks like it was a ton of fun (along with the usual pain of working on cars) and the results made everyone happy. Can't beat that. We need to see the Money Pit Miata against the EG!

  • @connor6547
    @connor6547 Před 5 měsíci +7

    This series has been a blast. Since I got my first civic I have had a special spot in my heart for them

  • @420Schmat
    @420Schmat Před 5 měsíci +259

    Really wanna see a turbo and a wrap on the 95 to finish it off. See if you can get the lap time down with some boost.

    • @johndoe920
      @johndoe920 Před 5 měsíci +34

      naaah the shitbox look is part of the charm. Wouldn't be the same with a wrap.

    • @sambeaumont395
      @sambeaumont395 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Better to give it a body kit first if you going to wrap it, including a legit custom hood to replace that horrible cut out.

    • @user-qr3wp1md5r
      @user-qr3wp1md5r Před 5 měsíci +4

      and e85. make 600 ponies reliable. also f wrap, get it painted

    • @nonstopqs4188
      @nonstopqs4188 Před 5 měsíci +6

      honestly for the $50k they spent I thought they should've slapped a turbo on it first considering the type r is turbo

    • @adismail
      @adismail Před 5 měsíci +6

      The ITB's make a turbo kit significantly harder to engineer here. They would have to ditch the ITB's for an off the shelf setup, which they probably won't do given how committed they are at this point to having them on the car.
      There may be a video on a turbo setup still, but it's not simple and would have to be entirely custom.

  • @cityslick_zc_9537
    @cityslick_zc_9537 Před 5 měsíci +489

    you should turbocharge the EG, build the k series, and document it all. not sure what the whole point of it would be for the channel lol but it would be sick and we would all for sure watch it

    • @TheMazdamn
      @TheMazdamn Před 5 měsíci +23

      I agree. turbo it, then race again. Build type R, race again.

    • @guerrinlove69
      @guerrinlove69 Před 5 měsíci +29

      Nah they should find some CRV parts and make it AWD before adding boost

    • @ben501st
      @ben501st Před 5 měsíci +15

      This channel does not have a great record with forced induction.

    • @kozohoshinosbnr3490
      @kozohoshinosbnr3490 Před 5 měsíci +2

      itb's are way better

    • @CroftVan
      @CroftVan Před 5 měsíci +13

      The craze for boost is palpable, still a well tuned NA has a magic of it's own.

  • @nelsonngu
    @nelsonngu Před 5 měsíci

    When i was younger i used to like EG6, i changed my mind to like EK4 in the end, and DC5 facelift. Great content! I am smiling all the way hearing that VTEC baby!

  • @evanfrechette6437
    @evanfrechette6437 Před 5 měsíci

    I bought a eg civic coupe just before you released your first video with the 500$ civic, and this series has been very inspiring and given me pots of ideas for my build great job donut

  • @ImARichard
    @ImARichard Před 5 měsíci +106

    Nolan in the passenger seat looking terrified, Civic Type-R beeping angrily in the canyons:
    Jerry: "Oh relax"
    😂😂😂

    • @TheBeelzboss
      @TheBeelzboss Před 5 měsíci

      Why the fuck was it beeping?

    • @Kitteh.B
      @Kitteh.B Před 5 měsíci +6

      Me, driving to the grocery store with my mother in the passenger seat with her death-gripping the handle "Oh relax" lmao

  • @SamiKhan-hn3uk
    @SamiKhan-hn3uk Před 5 měsíci +266

    I’m just saying, they could’ve made a custom made bonnet/hood scoop for that intake on the EG in my opinion. Would definitely help in the looks department👌🏽

    • @neilamsberry9841
      @neilamsberry9841 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Been thinking the same thing since the last episode.

    • @mohammedosmankhan1837
      @mohammedosmankhan1837 Před 5 měsíci +10

      They'll probably improve the looks in a few weeks when their budget allows them.

    • @tjramsey7274
      @tjramsey7274 Před 5 měsíci +5

      i like the cut hood for the ITBs if anything they just need a better looking filter set up,, like individual ones so it can show them off

    • @thepjup4507
      @thepjup4507 Před 5 měsíci +1

      nah it looks perfect how it is. acquire some taste my friend.

    • @SamiKhan-hn3uk
      @SamiKhan-hn3uk Před 5 měsíci

      @@thepjup4507 your poes

  • @ferraribugatti
    @ferraribugatti Před 2 měsíci +1

    This really is one of my favorite video series that you have done. I hope we see a lot more of this Civic

  • @davidashworth1985
    @davidashworth1985 Před 5 měsíci +2

    LOVED this series! I was curious though...what kind of tires were you running on the EG? The Volks look SICK. I wonder if stickier rubber would allow the EG to slip past the Type R?

  • @MyCoolboy17
    @MyCoolboy17 Před 5 měsíci +271

    I definitely want to see more with this car, don’t let it die

    • @onechakarov
      @onechakarov Před 4 měsíci +7

      My guy, the car is badly build and those guys are casuals, if you get professionals from Europe to do that job and invest 50 000$ into any car from 1990s it will absolutely destroy that brand new little Civic and many more. Drag or Race, heck in Europe it will cost 10 000 euros to beat that civic.

    • @ImGamingBear323
      @ImGamingBear323 Před 4 měsíci

      @@onechakarovreal

    • @Rocrhiler
      @Rocrhiler Před 4 měsíci +20

      ​​​@@onechakarov But that isn't the point. Sink any significant amount of money into any car and you could more than likely take on most production vehicles out there. The point here is that with enough dedication and bravery to modify a car, you can take a car from 30 years ago and make it perform almost as well as a car made today.
      Let's not forget that while they built this in a matter of months, they have funding, a workshop & salaries (I assume). It would take most of us years to get FL5 level performance out of a pos EG. The difference is every modification they've made to that EG can be done by your average Joe with a friend and a dream. No high tech experimental bs, just a wrench and a plan.

  • @RunicGG
    @RunicGG Před 5 měsíci +329

    Finding a new civic for msrp should be a series of its own. I'd love to get for for under 80k in my area.

    • @jbac5767
      @jbac5767 Před 5 měsíci +28

      80k for a civic???

    • @user-cz5kd4xe2u
      @user-cz5kd4xe2u Před 5 měsíci

      Next the body pls

    • @honda_miata
      @honda_miata Před 5 měsíci +4

      Very possible to get them for low 50's out the door.

    • @saltysax
      @saltysax Před 5 měsíci +2

      Got my 2017 touring for less than 30 because of a minor dent

    • @JonHop1
      @JonHop1 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@honda_miata depends where u are. Most places its 60k+

  • @Badavlin
    @Badavlin Před 5 měsíci

    Started watching you guys because of the civic! Would love seeing some more modifications to it. Or have another similar series like this one!

  • @user-gl8ld4tn7j
    @user-gl8ld4tn7j Před 4 měsíci

    I own a 97 accord ex, love that car and really enjoyed watching this series! I would absolutely love to see more videos with this beauty.

  • @JayJaxRHS13
    @JayJaxRHS13 Před 5 měsíci +207

    Keep doing the EG! Y'all said you did everything besides turbo and AWD swapping so it sounds to me like you guys know what's needed to be done

    • @TraviNomotion
      @TraviNomotion Před 5 měsíci +10

      No please don’t civics are perfect non boosted k swapped and restored

    • @ivanbbrito
      @ivanbbrito Před 5 měsíci +2

      Please, give this bad boy 300hp and do a rematch!

    • @DetroitMicroSound
      @DetroitMicroSound Před 5 měsíci +6

      4x4 and built as a period WRC 'Dream Rally Car', since Civics didn't compete at the time. Maybe even safari spec, covered in PIAA lighting all around, a roof rack, a pair of spare tires in the back of the hatch....

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@ivanbbritowhat about a rematch between Civic 3Door Si 1993 vs Toyota Supra RZ 1996?

    • @vonhousin4179
      @vonhousin4179 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@DetroitMicroSound bro i wanted to awd my 91 civic hatch in a rally wrc style so bad but i got hit and didnt have the money to keep it at the time. i never stopped thinking about it and might have to just go get another one day soon. i love the giant windows on that thing and its ass is amazing 😍

  • @alexcarter1266
    @alexcarter1266 Před 5 měsíci +129

    Can we talk about what an amazing driver Jerry has become???

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Jerry starts to be as amazing as Yianni.😅

    • @ZibrayMusic
      @ZibrayMusic Před 5 měsíci +4

      They don't even use drift daddy anymore haha

  • @joshuaguzman5152
    @joshuaguzman5152 Před 3 měsíci

    I love these videos!!!❤ I enjoy watching you guys take an old car and turn it into this fun car thar can keep up with newer cars,keep these videos Coming, I'd like to see more subaru legacy gt wagons,rsx,infinitis ,even and old mercedes 2005 and older,what about a old yaris.

  • @14rs2
    @14rs2 Před 5 měsíci +18

    4:50 showing us how he rinsed 3rd gear in the Subaru 😂

  • @Canyondriver
    @Canyondriver Před 5 měsíci +57

    I'd love to see a motor trend or car and driver level spec sheet as if it was an official press car back in the day. Acceleration runs, top speed, braking distance, weight and weight distribution, gas mileage, etc. This seems like it would be a really fun episode.

  • @dionward57
    @dionward57 Před 5 měsíci

    That was awesome, going with the EG all day. You guys should definitely do more with it. 🔥

  • @GurmeetSingh-if1rp
    @GurmeetSingh-if1rp Před 5 měsíci

    Love the video and love all you at Donut, keep the great content coming. I think you can break 30 million subscribers in no time 😊

  • @farmboosted304
    @farmboosted304 Před 5 měsíci +81

    I personally would love to see y'all do a lot more with this civic 🤙🏽

  • @Cocpain
    @Cocpain Před 5 měsíci +22

    Finding an EG hatch for $500 where I live, even the base model, is the biggest surprise of this whole series...

  • @cccc285
    @cccc285 Před 4 měsíci

    The little edit at 3:40 comparing the civics sounds was great

  • @INDIANBEA5T
    @INDIANBEA5T Před 5 měsíci +2

    You guys are basically LTT of car world. Love the vids!

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 3 měsíci

      Don’t insult LTT with these guys

    • @INDIANBEA5T
      @INDIANBEA5T Před 3 měsíci

      @@malaki4519 excuse me? Donut Media is the LTT of the automotive world. They make entertaining videos full of information. Just like LTT.

  • @HendrickT-bi4iw
    @HendrickT-bi4iw Před 5 měsíci +67

    I think when it comes to new cars and especially hot hatchbacks, it's advances in the diffs and electronics that really give them an edge against older cars. But that 95 hatch is still an awesome build that looks insanely fun to drive. It deserves a decent wrap or paint job next.

    • @Mefayor
      @Mefayor Před 5 měsíci +3

      exactly, and who knows, maybe with an updated diff the EG would be able to easily put down the power and thus make it better maneuverable - but that would probably improve the time and the handling too much and uhhhh... that probably does not look good as in old model vs new model, some sale just miiiiight get influenced by such thing

  • @josephmatuszak3855
    @josephmatuszak3855 Před 5 měsíci +74

    The rawness of the EG build to me just has so much more personality and fun appeal. The new Type-R is amazing, but it does not mimic that OG feel in the Temple of VTEC.

    • @santiagooehler
      @santiagooehler Před 5 měsíci +1

      I love it, but the thing with mods it's that you are always chasing bugs, and if you are going to have only one car, it becomes tedious

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@santiagooehlerthe Spoon Civic Type R also got VTEC super engine on it...

  • @DerpyDude777
    @DerpyDude777 Před 5 měsíci

    I'll go the 95 route any day (ideally 96-2000 IMO). The experience with the bros and the knowledge gained, 110%! And honestly, there's more you can do to make it even better, Civics, anything can be done.
    I know a dude named Rob and he had an about 1000 HP drag EK Hatch and that thing was literally insane! The Hoonigan race it was in was kinda unfair but it held it's own.

  • @Fallenicon4877
    @Fallenicon4877 Před 5 měsíci

    Love Donut, You can't beat that experience.

  • @MrGhost36969
    @MrGhost36969 Před 5 měsíci +144

    Definitely going with the BUILD! Don't get me wrong, the new Type R would be cool to have and modify, but to build up and modify a car with your own hands is an experience and pride you can't buy, plus I use to own a 94 EG and it was a fun car.

    • @Jmacfann
      @Jmacfann Před 5 měsíci +3

      You can..and it costs 45k plus labor.

  • @johnnixon2504
    @johnnixon2504 Před 5 měsíci +17

    Honestly, it is about 4 seconds faster around that track than I expected.

  • @BennyBenBen7
    @BennyBenBen7 Před 5 měsíci

    Definitely gotta see more of the civic. That little ripper is just wonderful 👍👍👍

  • @charlielitz6395
    @charlielitz6395 Před 5 měsíci

    I love what u guys have done with the civic. And would love to see more. But also do the same with a different car. Lots of fun thank you

  • @neilieb3740
    @neilieb3740 Před 5 měsíci +39

    The EG definitely has come a long way. Can't believe it's that fast, with just 230 HP, and the new Type R has 315. Definitely love the EG build and all it definitely worth more than the new Type R.

    • @Mecks_Music
      @Mecks_Music Před 5 měsíci +4

      the eg put 230 to the wheels the newer civic puts around 270 - 290 to the wheels . I reckon with some areo mods the eg will be around the same pace

    • @brotang2953
      @brotang2953 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@Mecks_Musicpower is only one side of the "fast" equation, the old one weighs next to nothing compared to the new one. Even if they had the same power the older ones going to be faster because it's probably close to half the weight.

    • @drzflyest4
      @drzflyest4 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@Mecks_Musicits the torque not the aero.

    • @marklion315
      @marklion315 Před 5 měsíci

      270 to the wheel? source? @@Mecks_Music

    • @Mecks_Music
      @Mecks_Music Před 5 měsíci

      . the newer civic makes 315bhp but thay aint to the wheels. it probably puts around 270 - 290 to the wheels​ find some dyno grafts on google @marklion315

  • @Ssshrugs
    @Ssshrugs Před 5 měsíci +72

    Damn, Jerry really looked like a race car driver out there. He drove so goddamn fast

    • @the_wiki9408
      @the_wiki9408 Před 5 měsíci +9

      never did win no checkered flags, but he never did come in last?

    • @dividad1
      @dividad1 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@the_wiki9408Jerry was a race car driver
      He'd say "El Sob number one"
      With a Bocephus sticker on his 442
      He'd light 'em up just for fun

    • @christianramirez7885
      @christianramirez7885 Před 5 měsíci

      Bro was whipping in the canyons in the type R lol

  • @kiow3601
    @kiow3601 Před 5 měsíci +7

    def turbo it

  • @333studiosks
    @333studiosks Před 5 měsíci +25

    This video should be called how to make under 500hp with $100,000

  • @hi_tech_reptiles
    @hi_tech_reptiles Před 5 měsíci +42

    That EG hatch could very easily be faster for sure. Some diff stuff, engine tuning/lightweight internals, let alone a supercharger or other FI, or you could make it AWD with the budget what it is. Especially if you take out a lot of the interior related stuff haha. Super cool series regardless, and if you want a Civic TR I don't blame you they are def cool either way.

    • @markkosir2123
      @markkosir2123 Před 4 měsíci +1

      They could have slapped a crate billet in there and save on other things

    • @redheadracing6242
      @redheadracing6242 Před 4 měsíci +4

      There were so many better ways of spending their budget, no need for 5k in recaros

    • @iamfrickincool
      @iamfrickincool Před 4 měsíci +1

      If it was a high compression build or all motor that vtec would kick bro

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 3 měsíci

      For the price of the seats alone switching to ikon momo jegs nrg or sparco. Then adding a touchscreen and backup camera. Spray the carpet and headliner instead of wrapping the headliner and adding new carpet. Get a new pillar for the gauges

    • @markkosir2123
      @markkosir2123 Před 3 měsíci

      @@malaki4519 exactly so much money wasted but it’s not mine so to each their own

  • @archiesams9555
    @archiesams9555 Před 5 měsíci +81

    Gotta respect the effort on the older civic man

    • @losSoCalMTB
      @losSoCalMTB Před 5 měsíci +1

      Now that they did a "good" tuner car, they should do a bad one. Like hypothetically you inherit a car from your grandma and start dumping paychecks into it.

    • @joshuafallet5690
      @joshuafallet5690 Před 5 měsíci

      They already did that with the wrx bruv ​@@losSoCalMTB

  • @edim108
    @edim108 Před 4 měsíci

    Adding a hood scoop of some kind would be nice and it could improve the performance having essentially a ram air intake. And I feel like with a bit more tinkering there is still some potential left in it aside from the obvious cop out of putting a turbo on it...

  • @arminskols1998
    @arminskols1998 Před 5 měsíci

    I'd love to get my hands on the ej9 civic again. I had one, super clean example. 53k miles on it. Clean interior. Bone stock. I changed a few bits here and there but then sold it for cheap. I want one again and swap a K series into it.

  • @matthewpeterson3329
    @matthewpeterson3329 Před 5 měsíci +22

    There's still plenty of weight to be cut out of the '95. Money was spent where it didn't need to be spent, even though it's cool. This could have been a $40k project, and with some more reduction, I think the times would match up. Altogether a fun series of videos for sure!

    • @alexanderpsaras5663
      @alexanderpsaras5663 Před 5 měsíci +4

      But they wanted a balanced car not just a full stripped track monater

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 Před 5 měsíci +4

      No thanks, everything was necessary.

    • @crissd8283
      @crissd8283 Před 5 měsíci +3

      A small turbo would have gone a long way. I'd rather have the back seats and a small turbo.

    • @ShaneKingYo
      @ShaneKingYo Před 5 měsíci +2

      yeah the itbs should have been a turbo instead

  • @Lorgs1
    @Lorgs1 Před 5 měsíci +36

    You've done pretty much all you can on the inside, so now the outside needs some love. Would be awesome to see in black wrap with yellow detailing, and a body kit

    • @rodolfoo3015
      @rodolfoo3015 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Not the ricer yellow details 😭

    • @Dr904
      @Dr904 Před 5 měsíci

      With some nice yellow underglow too. Making it look like it belongs in 2 Fast 2 Furious!

    • @rodolfoo3015
      @rodolfoo3015 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Dr904 like it belongs to the police impound lot. Underglow even if off is ilegal and not worth the risk. But imma be honest with underglow it would be nice.

  • @balance5216
    @balance5216 Před 23 dny +5

    50k and you don’t put a turbo in there that’s insanely stupid

  • @LARGE_COKE
    @LARGE_COKE Před 4 měsíci

    I have a megane R.S it makes around 330hp 340ft/lbs on a tune no mods, and it is probably the most comparable thing to a civic type R today. (you cannot get it in the US though I beleive) It's interesting to hear the type R (new) gets little torque steer. Even with a wavetrack diff (factory) on the front and I get crazy torque steer and even did with no tune at 295ft/lbs stock, some Japanese magic going on there. The EG hatch is cool as hell and will always hold a place in my heart as I had one as my first car, insane build!

  • @DEFE1994
    @DEFE1994 Před 5 měsíci +31

    This video just makes me so happy, congrats on how far y’all have made it. Nolan…dude is shining. You can see how happy he is. Love the whole crew ❤

  • @mystikmush4979
    @mystikmush4979 Před 5 měsíci +32

    Hear me out...
    Buy two 1.8L VW beetles', convert them to beach buggies and see who can put the biggest engine in em. 👀
    They're cheap as hell here in South Africa. We've put old BMW seats in one of ours and upgraded the suspension on the other.
    I think you guys would love just how customizable they are.
    Love the videos. Keep up the hard work guys!

    • @Ambrose4k
      @Ambrose4k Před 5 měsíci +1

      my Grandpa had 15 vw bugs on his property just rodding away, they where so cheap back in the day if they broke you would get a new one for 300$

    • @mystikmush4979
      @mystikmush4979 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@Ambrose4k right😂 and they're really fun when you swap a 2.5T Forester motor one. Over a hundred horsepower in something that only weighs a couple hundred kg's.
      They rip!

    • @Ambrose4k
      @Ambrose4k Před 5 měsíci

      @@mystikmush4979 2.5 t are like $10k+ the wiring head ache you have to do, and what about the transmission i know its not the stock one right?

    • @mystikmush4979
      @mystikmush4979 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Ambrose4k sorry if that came across a little misleading. I haven't swapped the 2.5t in one, I've only seen something similar.
      And you're right, it must have been a headache and a half XD

  • @kevinb.3656
    @kevinb.3656 Před 5 měsíci +1

    “Just a second and a half slower in the track.” Lmao, they say that trying to hide the smirk of how massive of a difference that is.

  • @workspacetalk
    @workspacetalk Před 5 měsíci

    My favorite episode so far. Please keep going with the build and maybe a rematch with the Type R once it is done? 🙏

  • @jorgepanamajr6971
    @jorgepanamajr6971 Před 5 měsíci

    I’m more inspired to work on the suspension of my 94’ LX. Loved the journey of your car.

  • @jackpost760
    @jackpost760 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I must admit this video series has come around for me. At the start of you guys messing with the cheap Honda I mainly skipped over all these videos but the last 2-3 I have been surprisingly excited for when it comes across my homepage.

  • @YourScaryMother
    @YourScaryMother Před 5 měsíci +12

    I think it's pretty impressive that for a similar amount, you can build an older car out and come that close to lap times, even though the new car is turbocharged and has all the tech (traction control, etc.) that *should* give it more of an edge than it does

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Agreed, as someone who had driven his fair share of cars, between a fast insulated spaceship vs a visceral H shift fun car that is only a second or so slower (I know that's an eternity in a real road race) I'll take the slower analog fun car every time for my trackday toy. You are a part of the car and just know everything it's doing, that analog symbiotic experience of actually shifting gears and hearing the ICE scream with a cable throttle is something that can never be replicated properly with electrons and actuators.

    • @misterpister
      @misterpister Před 5 měsíci +1

      Very true! Plus, I don't think you'd need to spend a similar amount and come close to lap times... I think it could have been done for a little bit cheaper.

    • @nonstopqs4188
      @nonstopqs4188 Před 5 měsíci +3

      except, they could've also gone with a completely different, cheaper build that would've smoked the type r. this is for the views though, and it's entertaining so I'm not mad. ik if the choices of parts were up to the guys still it'd probably be a different outcome, but ik the higher ups wanted this🥲

    • @downsouthlouisiana
      @downsouthlouisiana Před 5 měsíci

      It's a short track. The new civic would have a much bigger lead if the track was longer.

    • @raimondnu3
      @raimondnu3 Před 5 měsíci

      @@nonstopqs4188 I totally agree! I immediately thought they did a stock k24a2 turbo build, when they mentioned k20A and ITB i was hoping they at least matched the HP of the CTR. But I guess they figured weight vs power ratio in the factor. Surprisingly, if they threw some drag cartel cams in there and not spent $18K on misc. it would of been faster than the CTR which is wild!

  • @Corey-Goodwin
    @Corey-Goodwin Před 5 měsíci

    I’ve put well over 10k miles in an FK8 CTR with a Hondata tune and that tune makes such a difference. Car is a menace and I can only imagine what the new one is like😁

  • @matthewsanchez8624
    @matthewsanchez8624 Před 5 měsíci

    I remember when people were turbocharging the d15 making 200 hp. Even with a d16z6 swap that hatch is fast. Can’t beat the joy of driving a 2000lb car with any swap really.

  • @KuKicks
    @KuKicks Před 5 měsíci +10

    50k and no turbo on the older civic?!

    • @drewh22
      @drewh22 Před 5 měsíci

      Seriously. Did not do a great job in terms of performance per dollar... But I guess the FL5 isn't great performance per dollar compared to the Fk8, so it makes it more fair

  • @aaronkent76
    @aaronkent76 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Thank you for these build series they are amazing and honest
    Love the comparison on build vs buy
    Still love the 95 more even though it slower
    Thank you for all the hard work you guys do putting together sponsees, shooting, editing, and building cars

  • @jaredhuber7359
    @jaredhuber7359 Před 4 měsíci

    That was fuckin RAD! Thanks so much for that awesome display. I have always wondered this exact subject... great outcome! You guys crack me up, keep poppin!

  • @Tclans
    @Tclans Před 4 měsíci +1

    More $ 500 Civic please, this is fun!

  • @jacobscott1309
    @jacobscott1309 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Now....add boost to the EG!
    Not a turbo, but a supercharger. I bet that Type R will be put on point!

  • @apollo7557
    @apollo7557 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Jerimah telling the new civic to relax is incredibly relatable. I hate having my car scream at me for stuff I’m doing 😭

  • @maudiusorelius1739
    @maudiusorelius1739 Před 4 měsíci

    I really loved the series, I would love to see a sleeper car series where you take like a geo metro or like a honda fit and make a stealth racer.

  • @astyn3117
    @astyn3117 Před 5 měsíci

    Yes Please !!! More Content with that Wonderful Beast !! Don’t waste anytime ! Lol Thank you for your Hard work we all truly appreciate it fellas ! Many Blessings

  • @icydawn
    @icydawn Před 5 měsíci +7

    Loved this series and I hope to see more like it!

  • @coelhovinicius140
    @coelhovinicius140 Před 5 měsíci +5

    With the older one, you can also have reasonable fun while not going that far into the build. And even if you do, theres more room to get it where you want, not only in esthetics but also performance, maybe with some more wheel time and suspension/tire setuping the gap might get closer and youll end up with a car that fits you like a glove. But if you ask me, this whole process IS the fun, and doing it with such an expansive car that have (and activally does) a lot of choices
    (Like the active suspension thing) to me its very counter productive in my eyes.

  • @TheJmeech
    @TheJmeech Před 4 měsíci

    That was a fun watch. Great work

  • @JakeCrawford
    @JakeCrawford Před 5 měsíci

    what a great series guys!

  • @Ravequiem10
    @Ravequiem10 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I am liking these types of videos, hope you guys make more past vs modern content!

  • @SurferSandman
    @SurferSandman Před 5 měsíci +18

    This episode makes me happy. It may not make financial sense, but the drama and excitement of the EG is just what driving fun.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 5 měsíci +1

      True. This episode alone is 10/10.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 5 měsíci

      This Episode like 1/10 honestly. Just showing what Honda marketing dollars do with a big channel like Donut media.

  • @SpacemonkeySTI
    @SpacemonkeySTI Před 3 měsíci

    pretty amazing what the type r can do off the lot - cup 2 tires though make a huge difference and would love to know what the EG had wrapped on it's wheels. But hot damn, just came from watching the Subaru wrx video where high car was also slower than the type r and the type r blew the 2023 wrx out of the water! wrap all your wheels in cup 2's for the next video!

  • @tommy.ayefam
    @tommy.ayefam Před 5 měsíci

    I love the jdm K20A and it revs to 9000 in a light weight body. Now that’s fun

  • @OSCAR...
    @OSCAR... Před 5 měsíci +10

    50k for 200hp nice

    • @LNR21
      @LNR21 Před měsícem

      More like 10k on actual engine

  • @thomasvanpelt6586
    @thomasvanpelt6586 Před 5 měsíci +3

    The boys @ Donut are freaking awesome!! I love this channel!

  • @mizinoinovermyhead.7523
    @mizinoinovermyhead.7523 Před 5 měsíci

    Guys, weld the seams. You still have some work that can be done. Stiffening the chassis will complement the suspension upgrades you've already done. I'm not sure there is enough to make up the missing time, but would be worth checking out.

  • @gac5664
    @gac5664 Před 5 měsíci

    Please do more with this car. It’s awesome.

  • @michaelblaes9847
    @michaelblaes9847 Před 5 měsíci +21

    My favorite build by Donut! They need to pick their track days better. Why even try in the rain. Donut has the money to reschedule. The old civic has a hundred less horsepower and was only two seconds off the pace. Very impressive. More please!

    • @jordan7290
      @jordan7290 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Well if donut actually could prep the car properly suspension brakes etc. they should be better on pace with each other.

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Tell us about this time machine you have in order to know the weather in advance please

    • @ThorOdinson-zc2kq
      @ThorOdinson-zc2kq Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@cenciende9401it’s simple, when it rains you reschedule, every track has that policy

    • @Jotomoz
      @Jotomoz Před 5 měsíci

      Tuned NA K swap runs 0-60 in under 4s. With ac and power steering no weight reduction. I think Donut got played in this build for that price. Cost just over 10 large to get under 4s.

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 Před 5 měsíci +10

    If you guys didn’t have to cut the hood this civic would be a great sleeper

  • @xavierzickefoose-qs7ld
    @xavierzickefoose-qs7ld Před 2 měsíci

    I really think there should be more videos on this car, at this point it’s the mascot. More additional videos and upgrades would be awesome. Like adding turbo,new paint , and maybe nitrous 😂. Don’t let this car die!

  • @izso_racenotrice
    @izso_racenotrice Před 5 měsíci

    I say do more "old" vs "new" vids man. This stuff is awesome!

  • @JDMsolstice
    @JDMsolstice Před 5 měsíci +3

    The eg6 hatch got me into cars. I remember Speed Factory Racing running a 10sec quarter mile with a turbo single cam hatch back in the day. Blew my mind. I loved this series. Mad nostalgia.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 5 měsíci

      Especially when they had the OG Honda swap nerd Brian Gillespie help with their K swap, that man is a god to us old JDM heads just like Dori Dori and Dave Coleman.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 Před 5 měsíci

      Speedfactory sure got a lot more out of their hatch than 10 seconds until they wrecked it Haven’t heard much about them since.

  • @konstantinel.4765
    @konstantinel.4765 Před 5 měsíci +4

    that's like a warm family moment right there. even James' father would be proud.

  • @itsdeadpixe1
    @itsdeadpixe1 Před 5 měsíci

    You guys just built my dream EG, imagine it all black with yellow straps and/or external details... (and a proper hood cover lol)

  • @Biodebatable
    @Biodebatable Před 4 měsíci

    Reckon that the paint needs some love, keep the colour as it feels perfect for the car but some paint repair, decals, headlight love,and perhaps a body kit (rocket bunny style). I can't stress enough how much I want to see the colour maintened though. The turquoise and yellow work so well together

  • @THPcars
    @THPcars Před 5 měsíci +5

    Nahh bruv pass me keys I'll beat that fk8 in the EG 😂

  • @Acv2_Yadri
    @Acv2_Yadri Před 5 měsíci +10

    Awesome series! Hope this isn’t the end of that old civic

  • @markieh04
    @markieh04 Před 4 měsíci

    What tires were on the old civil? Can they compare to the Cup 2s??? That might pick you up a few fraction of a second on each corner....

  • @yodatw
    @yodatw Před 5 měsíci +3

    You guys do the fun stuiff no one else will do. If I had a garage with ten buddies that know cars I would do EXACTLY what you all do! It is great fun to watch it all. Yeah I know I gotta buy a shirt now.