Was the Paul George Trade the WORST IN NBA HISTORY???
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And the crazy thing is even with OKC already drafting all these guys, they still have like what 46 draft picks remaining? Insane.
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No.
What's crazy is that 2026 Clippers pick will be a top 5 lottery pick. That Clippers team is about to spend a shit ton of money in an attempt to contend for 2 years. After that, players will leave.
@@JimBob-jr5up good chance for that, only question is how good the players are gonna be (the 2026 draft class)
Remember OKC is the franchise who traded james Harden to avoid paying the luxury tax. Every time OKC is making a good trade, its a bad trade for the NBA and basketball in general.
Kawhi leaving Toronto was also a mistake. He should’ve signed a 1and1 to run it back with Toronto in 2020. He would’ve made it to at least another conference finals.
I see this all the time, and can't understand how people can't realize that Kawhi's priority after Toronto was not winning a chip, but playing and living in LA. So, for him it was not mistake. Whether or not that's a good basketball call, that's another topic, which was not Kawhi's priority.
He won them a ring after being traded. I’m sure he’s good in that city 😂
Kawhi just wanted to be in LA
@@Kodreanu23 Leaving for LA/San Diego one year later is not that big of a deal
@@whatcolorareyour6championships nobody signs one year contract. Even if he signed, he would've been traded, so the Toronto gets something in return. At the moment of signing the contract, it looked possible to move to LAC and win the chip. Hell, even in 2021 they've could've won it, if it wasn't for his injury. So, we better put to rest this revisionist history.
It's easy to say in hindsight 🤷🏻♂️. Heck we won't even know if SGA could've developed properly in LA but I'm happy that he got traded to OKC who started to rebuild at that time which is quite fortunate for him since he had no pressure and has all the time to develop.
To me, once you break your leg, you're never going to be the same player. Overcoming a tibia and fibula fracture and return to star status was actually so unlikely, that Gordon Hayward would frequently call Paul George for guidance on his lesser injury.
PG13 was a high-risk, high-reward player, but to pair him with another injury-plagued star like Kawhi Leonard was the driving force behind the L.A. Clippers trying to acquire Russell Westbrook, who is historically one of the healthiest players in the league. Unfortunately, it didn't happen until 2023, far too late for this aging trio to pool their collective strength enough to stave off Father Time. 🏀
Its easy to say with foresight.
You clearky didnt pay attention to SGA and what he did for the Clippers in the POs.
They got 7 firsts and Gallo to use, trade as exp. Keep as exp etc.
Im not sure what you remember but i remember the majority of basketball fans not being able to believe how much OKC got.
@@JimBob-jr5upyou show me that package and say you got arguably the best player in the world and an additional superstar in return and I'd be convinced it's a solid trade
@@taetrrtot6205 id make the argument that leveraging a franchises future 6,7,8 years down the road and ability to properly adjust now if needed, no matter who the player is, is not a good trade.
In this specific scenario id also argue that the FO has a lack of direction and vision and has a hard time evaluating talent and evaluating what it takes to contend in the west. I think they made a mistake when deciding the best way to rebuild or retool. They went with the model that if everything went my way,the drafts, FA, no injuries, etc then maybe, maybe, they could get a ring.
They should have gone with the model that has the Rockets, Cleveland and most of all OKC out here making every other organization shitting tgeir pants in fear of what the situation will be moving firward.... short rebuilds for Rockets and OKC. CLE.... theyre always questionable.
I also dont know who you mean with "arguably the best player in the world".... are you speaking about KL?
An all-nba and all-star in sga a role player and 7 pick-swaps for a player that has choked in the playoffs is extreme to me
Future all-star?? You probably mean mvp. I’m sure he made the all star team this year.
He’s already an All-Star and 1st Team All NBA. He’s practically a dark horse MVP
@@sharky1854still hasn't made the playoffs tho
I have a feeling we’ll be saying shai is a playoff choker too
You called pg “a player that has choked in the playoffs” as if he wasn’t coming off a year where averaged 28 and made 1st team all nba and 1st all defense lol kawhi doesn’t come without the pg trade either so you basically got kawhi in the deal too. It’s been 4 years since the trade happened and it’s crazy people still don’t understand how it actually happened
Obviously they gave up a lot but I think at that time nearly every team would do that trade, they needed PG to get Kawhi who was arguably the best player in the world at that time and PG was top 10
Still think the Gobert trade is the worse because well…Gobert, but yeah this trade is bad.
Yea gobert trade was worse. At least PG is good
As bad as the Gobert trade is... I still think it depends how good the Jazz leverage things.. Shai is still undoubtedly the better asset received plus the picks potential
I think the main defense is the fact that the LA Clippers had to sign PG in order to sign Kawhi due to him wanting to play with PG. So basically that trade was for both PG and Kawhi
Kawhi was already making demands before being signed
It's easy to talk about it in hindsight, but think back to the 2019 offseason. If you were given the opportunity to trade for Paul George, who had just averaged 28 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 4.1 APG, along with the guarantee that the reigning NBA Finals MVP, Kawhi Leonard, would sign with your team once you completed the trade, why not?
SGA, the center piece of the trade, was coming off his rookie season averaging 10.8 PPG, 2.8 RPG, and 3.3 APG. Of course, the five first-round picks and two first-round pick swaps given up were going to hurt in the long run, but if you're getting both Kawhi and PG, it's a win-now move, no?
Obviously we can look back at it now and laugh about how injuries derailed the Kawhi-PG era while SGA slipped through their hands and blossomed into a potential MVP, but I'd say the move made sense at the time. For the record, I don't support the Clippers and absolutely cheered when they blew a 3-1 lead to Denver in 2020, but the amount of revisionism about their 2019 offseason is crazy.
4-7 picks bro. Teams shouldn’t give up that much future capital.
Also even back then people knew how injury prone PG and Kawhi were 🤷🏽♂️
@@gadaboss Kawhi had just started becoming injury prone after the ZaZa guy wrecked his ankle. Back then, he was a semi active leader for a potential championship team that if you got you had a chance at winning it all every year.
Every time OKC is making a good trade, its a bad trade for the NBA and basket ball in general. OKC is a disgrace for the NBA.
This trade is bad but tbh this trade was really for PG and Kawhi and I think that’s why the clippers were comfortable giving up that much without PG or another star kawhi said he wouldn’t have went
This is the proper context
Yeah if the reports are accurate, kawhi wanted pg so the clips appeased their superstar
That's true
Wasnt just a Paul George trade. It was basically required to get Kawhi, who was thought of by a lot of people as the best player in the NBA at the time and just won a championship. Most teams make that trade if they had the chance.
It was just way too much, I'd say let him walk
Goddamn, after being reminded of how much LA got rid off just to reach the conference finals once..it's definitely one of the worst
Worst trade: Robert Traylor for Dirk Nowitzki.
Who would’ve thought that the bubble would’ve been their last real chance to win a championship and they completely blew it smh. They’ve been hit with some bad luck but damn that’s tuff
Who woulda thought?
Everyone who knew the Clippers history?
Injuries ruined the trade. Clips are generally stacked, but they can't keep there leaders healthy.
honestly at this point it's not their fault, health is just what it is, PG and Kawhi are easily top 10 in the leauge in terms of their duo, they just are unlucky, Clippers have been cursed for ages now
Nobody ever talk about this trade, but damn the LAC got destroyed by this one
All NBA, All Star, Scoring title and also got MVP votes Shai is way better than PG ever was
U should make vids ranking each position 1-30🤝
As a Thunder fan, THANK YOU CLIPPERS LMAOO
Why is this worse than the nets when they didn’t even reach a conference finals in an easier conference.
We are quick to forget the Timberwolves.
What people don’t understand that makes this trade one of the worst ever is that Shai is not only better than PG at this current moment, but this past season he already had a better season than Paul George has ever had. Yes the MVPG season was a great season, but it would not have netted him a top 3 finish in this past seasons MVP race in a league where 7 different players averaged 30 a game. Even with all that being said, Shai is still 24 (will be 25 in less than a week) and the Clippers still owe OKC two more unprotected firsts and a pick swap after already gifting them J-Dub.
L Take you obviously didn’t watch that season PG not only averaged 28 and 8 rebounds but he also averaged 2spg and was a finalist for DPOY that year
@@SusPastorFoundBrutallyMurdered while I will give you that point about defense, I wouldn’t say Shai’s defense is super far off. He was pretty close to 2 steals a game (1.6) and also averaged a block a game which Paul George has never come close to. PG was probably a better defender in his prime, but that not-too-big gap defensively does not make up for Shai scoring more points per game on like basically the same amount of shots per game and on significantly better efficiency. My heart would take PG’s MVP season, but my brain takes Shai’s season any day of the week.
He tryna gas it
@@bedstuy4_l895please stop, there is a huge gap defensively. Box score stats are not a good way to measure a players defensive ability.
Aye I love Shai but PG best season was a top 3 mvp and DPOY season, and even past then when he was on the pacers he was the #1 on a top seed
ending song caught me by surprise
No.
I still find it baffling that PG of all ppl was the one kawhi wanted to play with the most
Could have gotten Durant and an easy Championship. Not lose Shai or a thousand picks.
Bro, OKC literally has the pick bank
Clippers getting Leonard and PG was a huge mistake. They're pretty much done.
Should've stuck with SGA
SGA became not only a better PG, but also a good leader, because of his time playing with CP3. He learned off of him and is now applying what he learned.
Note to nba front offices: don’t give in to nba players demands.
Thank you kawhi for demanding the PG trade. It only cost us SGA and 7 first round picks… we are screwed for next 5-6 years. 😢
Meanwhile, SGA is most efficient player in league ballin for Thunder and they’ll be good for next 10+ years with all their draft assets. 😂😂😂
The thunder not only fleeced they finnessed us
Two all star PGs from OKC the intensity will be different. What you guys think ?
ngl I was ecstatic getting kawhi fresh off him getting a ring. cool. we traded for pg, also cool but----- when i saw sga in the trade, i knew right away that would be a huge mistake. I'm not gonna say I knew he would be all nba, mvp candidate but he definitely would've been a great guard for a decade+. just wish we didn't give sga up in the trade, okc gm definitely had an eye for talent.
It’s not the worst but it’s up there I can’t lie. SGA is officially way better than PG and the real picks haven’t even hit yet. It’d be one thing if they win a chip but they haven’t even made a finals and neither pg or kawhi can stay healthy.
of course a 33 year old pg is not gonna be as good as like a 25 year old SGA, though prime PG is LEAUGES above SGA
I never see anybody talk about this maybe because it’s a sensitive topic but with kawhi I don’t think it’s just the injury. The whole situation with his sister definitely added to it and next season he’s definitely gonna take a lot of personal days
Okc also got J-Dub with one of the draft picks. Shai, along with J-Dub alone, already makes the trade lopsided without the picks.
Okc thunder won the trade they finna make the playoffs next year hope.
they will definitely win a championship in the next 5 years, cos their young core is just so good rn
Calling this the worst trade in nba history is for sure extreme. There have been much worst trades just in the past 3 years.
I would have never involved Shai in that trade he was good as a rookie 15 points per game I believe played well in the playoffs that year too the Clippers definitely gave up too much for PG
You realize they did that trade because they would also get kawhi
@@chilldoc9638 and wtf has that gotten them?
LAC went impatient. With all their assets and SGA, they would be in a really good spot right now. Even with a title, PG and Kawhi are old. they'll go on rebuild process no matter what in the near futur. And u dont find SGA caliber player on many draft
@@Jean-jw4hw I agree 2,000%
Can u please do the Zach Lavine jimmy butler trade. I’m sorry as a Bulls fan Zach hasn’t done shit for us. He relies too much on his athleticism and his stats are empty . Meanwhile Jimmy Butler has made the playoffs with every team he’s been on.
It's an interesting trade because there were no winners lol. Minnesota lost Jimmy after 1 season, and Chicago hasn't done anything with the pieces they got. The best player Chi got in that trade is Lauri, who they gave up on only to see him turn into an all star.
yes definitely worst trade in history. as a thunder fan i can admit, the second worst trade in history is the harden one. Then the gobert trade is third
Wow I didn't remember the Thunder getting 7 1st round picks for PG. That's insane. PG is 33 and Kawhi is 32 right now so at the end of next season they'll be 34 and 33. No way I'm giving these 2 guys max deals. You'd have injury prone stars getting 50-60 million at 35-37 years old. Because the Clips never even made 1 Finals with this team it's clear the Thunder won this trade.
Damn. I didn't know the parameters. OKC didn't win, they smoked, no contest, damn.
Its funny how people know the answer knew the answer back then. People act like i don't see how they didn't see it back then. At the time nobody had a clue. Yet now they know they act like its no way you should of missed it.
Nah Marion for Shaq in ‘08 was a head scratcher!!
It’d be cool if the clippers stay together until okc develops and they meet in a playoff series. (I hope okc wins and that’s what finally makes the clippers break up, but they probably won’t last that long)
Pg smooth wit it
That team is beginning to unravel...Steve Balmer is gonna start tearing down that $h!t beginning at trade deadline lol....when try assemble an avengers squad at that time looks good on paper, to get microwave meal championship...at the least they brand new high tech "intuitive" stadium.
The Kevin Martin/James Harden trade is still up there to me for one of the worst.
As a raptors fan so happy clippers never won these past 4 seasons, they tried so hard to be like 2019 championship raptors team by getting those past players 😂 but compete failure and that 2020 playoff loss was jokes
Untill somebody wins something its a wash
U can say cause they didn't get a title out of it at least when the Lakers gave up their haul they got a championship out of it
But hey the lakers chip doesn’t count
@@skywalker2676 I haven't been a Lakers fan since The Legendary Kobe Bryant but it's still a championship no matter how much we minimize it a rings a ring right?
@@jeremyjames3633 why not? So you just. A Kobe fan
@@skywalker2676 I was a Kobe Bryant and Lakers fan
No it wasnt , kawahi leonard was the worst trade because it led to paul george
Pretty sure the Ben Simmons trade was worse for the Nets.
Not the worst because that trade was also getting Kawhi let’s not forget he demand them to get PG so he would sign with the clippers. It’s up there tho
Imo shai is peaking higher than pg and they are getting all these picks along with a all NBA star for the next 15 years
How can ANY organization allow ANY player to force a deal? It is the job of the front office and not a player to handle the business element of the team.
Clippers lose because they allowed a player control of business operations AND they allow the player to put them in a bind to give up a HUGE amount of primo picks.
OKC wins for being lucky to have the player KL was after and being smart to demand a HUGE amount of priority picks. SGA was only a prospect=OKC can only hope he can be a nice addition but does not care when 6 top tier picks is what they were after. 6 picks like this is tremendous leverage in the drafts or in picking up top players that become available etc.
I thought they got 6 but read that they got 7 picks/swaps. Regardless. More than 2 or 3 picks was an overpay if the Clippers front office was in charge.
its might damn bro. shai hoppin fr
It’s up there but the Pierce trade to Brooklyn is def worse
Presti finessed the hell outta The Clippers 😂
It was bad but its not the worst. Kobie for divac, ray allen for half a season of the glove. Gotta top it.
We dont know that yet but it's definitely top 5 rn. I think the nets and suns trade might lean that way as well considering Kd's age and how well mikal bridges played after the trade
People would say the same thing about AD trade if he didn’t win a title to be fair
but they missed wayyy more games than AD too tho...
Y'all forgot ben Simmons?
Shai is a legit point guard who made first team all nba paul george is an injury prone declining superstar who is no longer in his prime. Plus the fact that the thunder basically own the clippers future makes this a terrible trade for the clippers.
PG13 took the Clippers to their only WCF. Don't you ever forget that.
And clippers are now screwed for next 5 years … don’t ever forget that.
This looked great for the clippers in the moment, it just didn’t work out. I’m sure everyone here would’ve made that trade too. Kawhi had just won in Toronto, in only one season mind you. Paul George had just had an mvp caliber season. Sure you’re trading away your future, but this looked like a guaranteed championship. Don’t forget people were saying this would be the best wing duo since Jordan and pippen.
And put yourself in the mind of the clippers. Kawhi spent one year in Toronto and they won the championship, so why wouldn’t he be about to do that here? Especially with Paul George next to him. And they’re living in the shadow of the Lakers, who had just got AD like a month prior to this trade. AD was supposed to be the guy to take over after Lebron gets old and help make the team stay a contender after Lebron retires (that’s not gonna pan out either) so the clippers needed to make a big move
It's not that bad, the Clips are still contenders. Obviously Shai is a loss. Remember, without the trade they never get Kawhi either. Playoff disappointments don't change the fact that the trade did vault them into contender status.
Thunder won the trade at this specific time, let's see when they quit the Clippers
Not yet 🤷🏾♂ give it a couple more years
it helped them land kawhi leonard, thats why clippers did it.
well the pg was for kawhi & pg not just pg
edit: no one could believe kawhi & pg would miss nearly 1/2 of the nba season
do you for get 2021 playoff they made the wcf
the clipper were a 40-42 win team with out pg & kawhi so tgey leave those puck are going to be picks between 14-20
Thunder gonna win a ring in 5 years as a huge Shai fan I hope he gets a ring that trade was horrible lol😂
The clippers over paid chef
Results of trying to win now and screw the Lakers who would have gotten Kawhi if this trade doesn’t happen. All time backfire since not only have they not won anything of note but the team they tried screw over won the title that season over the team that embarrassed the Clippers 3-1. So the immediate and future results both sucked for LAC. Doesn’t look much better now either.
no because at the time PG was in mvp and dpoy convos the kobe for divac trade waaaaaaaaaaaas waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse
Yes yes he was
Why you always say “this league”? 😂
Clippers will stay a poverty franchise forever. Haven't heard from clowns like Pat4Clippers or whatever his name is in like forever
Duh it is mustard
Nah the nets trading for Uncle KG and Paul Pierce is still the worst trade imo Billy King is still a wanted man in Brooklyn😂
Gobert ??
It definitely aged extremely badly I don’t think it’s the worst tho
It was a terrible trade, I alredy knew SGA was going to be the player he is now.
Sure dude
Good lord this is 100% an overreaction. Not only has okc not even so much as made the playoffs, they haven’t even used most of the picks and we have no idea where players in those classes are at yet. Jfc
Fire Lawrence Frank
Balmer is the one who forced him to make that trade.
I said this 2020
Clippers traded there whole future for maybe 5 years and I don't see them ever beating the nuggets so what was the point you traded for a ring and it floped hard
If the Clippers don’t win a championship then yes it’s a bad trade for the clippers imo
I don’t think the clippers will ever win a title! They’re overrated!
Hope the knicks trade for SGA
No, Rudy Gobert trade was the worst in history. I solved that for ya! 😂😂😂
the wolves gave up 5 players to the jazz who aren’t even on the roster anymore lmao, can’t speak on the picks cause they haven’t hit yet but i’d assume they’ll be low quality first rounders because they’ll be in the playoffs every year. KG pierce trade and PG trade definitely the two worst
I think it's one of the best. - Thunder Fan
How many playoff games have you won since the trade? Zero.
@@Samuelfish2k In the era of internet and Google you cant take 3 seconds to research if that is true before you post the comment? Literally the year after the trade OKC took Russ and Harden Rockets to 7 games and had a shot to win the series. Do better.
@@davorbeljan4369 PG’s 2019 season is mentioned as being his last in OKC. Checking Google OKC hasn’t made the playoffs since the 2019-2020 season. Last 3 seasons=no playoffs. I did check before posting. OKC sucks.
@@Samuelfish2k Haha wow dude.. George's last season in OKC was 18/19 season. OKC made the playoffs in 19/20. I know reading is hard but if you want to troll at least know your facts.
@@davorbeljan4369 I don’t need to do alot of research to know the Thunder suck and haven’t made the playoffs for 3 straight years. Go win your trade with that.
More like best!
Nooe
This is recent biased yes in hindsight seeeing who shai is as a player it seems bad but 1 a lot of why la hasn’t worked out is just bad luck 3 years of straight injuries one of them In 2021 they were very much going to make the finals and probably win the title and at the time of the trade u have a team that is older with guys like Lou Williams pay bev Harrell good players but are older so u can’t develop shai unles su blow it up and pg was coming off a mvp type season to add with kawhis mvp type season not to mention even if la had shai they would still be trash now and with there luck not even make a good rebuild
No the Kobe Bryant trade was obviously
Before I go to sleep i just want to say i hate doc Rivers
Clippers dead when took an L on this 1
Ran out of ideas so you had to resort to making this video that has already been done a thousand times to get your 20k views 👍
You cant say that fr while the clippers haven’t won anything anyone with an chance to get an top 3 players like kawhi had to make the trade for pg so while in hindsight it looks bad the deal was justifiable
Mortgaging your future even for Kawhi is bad, due to his availability.
This take is laughable. PG13 for shai? People are giving shai the edge because of PG's failures in the playoffs BUT shai hasnt even been to the playoffs.... See your mistake? We dont even know if shai will be a succesful playoff player.... Wow. Typical nba content creators
You on crack SGA has had a great year yes maybe two if you include the 10 yes for G and SGA can’t compare not even close.
Until okc win a championship with the assets they received from the trade they haven't won the trade
Considering neither did. If anyone won it would be okc. The future is bright in comparison.
They haven’t even won a playoff game.
@@Samuelfish2k Google is your friend bro.