2024 Acura MDX Type S takes On Audi Q8 SLine and BMW X5, closer than you think. Drag and Roll Race.
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- 2024 Acura MDX Type S takes On Audi Q8 SLine and BMW X5, closer than you think. Drag and Roll Race
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As a Type S owner....I've seen only hate, but it's refreshing to see the love here 🙌🏾
Really? I’ve seen plenty of love thrown the way of the MDX Type-S
Why so much hate? I mean I’d take it last overall but still curious cause it’s not bad at all..
They can hate all they want because their European cars are unreliable and loses their value 2 or 3 quickly. And also, try getting maintenance done on them 😅 Getting them fixed cost a small fortune and they will break down a lot. Their cars will spend more time in the shop than driving.
Probably because in general, when a Japanese manufacture makes a "fast" version of their car, it's usually slower than the "middle" version of a German car.
People don’t like great quality that’s why they hate Acura. Japanese brands hands down. German brands hype no substance. They are always in the shop. Japanese all day!
Wow..the MDX and x5 were way closer than I expected…and the MDX has noticeably more top end.
It's a 2020 bmw.. the newer ones are a completely different beast. Thats embarassing a 2024 still got smoked by a 4 year old bmw
@@user-my4xu4gf1z the MDX has 3 years on the market.
Yeah the 2024 X5 smokes the MDX going away.
@@redzoom7857 yeah I’m aware, but I was expected the x5 to still beat it. It’s the b58 after all.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z the 2024 MDX is the same as the 2022MY which was on the market since mid 2021 :)
BMW fangirls don't know how to justify the fact that the X5 was slower than the MDX. That's embarrassing.
MDX all day long. Plenty quick, best value, least expensive to maintain, best AWD system, holds the most people and cargo, and is the best looking of the bunch (IMO).
best awd system? ahahahh the bmw is the best in everything, superior engines, superior built quality and way better driving than any other brand not only audi and acura
@@denikasmi1850 I’m not arguing that BMW isn’t great at some things. Engines and build quality, yes. Ride and steering? Hardly. The Acura is by far the jack of all trades here.
@@icculus to me bmw is the best. I live in italy and we rarely see other car brands like acura.. but to each it's own... I'm just saying that the bmw engines are the most performant and the quality of the ride they have it's unmatched. And i own a bmw that's why i talk. My friends have audis and mercedes and everytime they get into my car they say to me that they can notice the difference... And when i let them drive they was so astonished on the way the car responds when you press the accelerator and how much confidence it aspires and how much difference there is with their cars on the sense of the quality of the ride
I AGREE BEST OVERALL VALUE . BUT I AT LEAST THOUGHT IT WOULD PUT THE X5 IN THE REAR VIEW LOL
I just wish Acura used a stronger transmission. The 10 speed is awful. Too many issues and its max torque is 350. BMW is double . Massive difference.
Google Acura and Honda 10 speed failures. You will see. Honda was sued over Hondas with 10 speed in minivans. Same transmission.
ACURA 💪👍🏎️
I just wish they would put a better transmissions in it. Many issues with them. Plus there is no way to make over 400hp. Plus it also won’t rev past 6k.
B58 drivetrain is on another level. Many levels above it. This is why many MDX owners upgrade to BMW.
@@ryanb8736 Here comes the Disadvantages of the B58B30 engine
Most of the complaints on the specialized forums are related to a decrease in the coolant level. The exact cause is unknown, but sometimes replacing the expansion tank cap helps.
It’s a pretty hot engine and blows head gaskets regularly. Usually, a strong smell of burnt oil appears immediately, and often smoke.
Like most gasoline direct injection engines, B58 engines often suffer from floating engine speeds due to carbon deposits on the intake valves.
Rarer problems here are related to the Vanos phase shifters, the canister valve and the oil filter, which falls apart when replaced, and it is not so easy to get it.
Sorry.
Learn the REAL FACTS.
@@user-yh7be9fk6mnone of that prevents the b58 from being the better overall engine which it still is. Proper maintenance prevents most of those issues.
@@ralph02136 Well, first and second problem can't be prevented by proper and regular maintenance. And if you are kind of fangirl of BMW who always barks "BMW is the only best car! Others are crap!", I'm gonna spend no more time on you.
@@user-yh7be9fk6m once again most of the issues can be dealt with proper maintenance aka understanding how it works and taking care of it on time. The rest of what you babbled about doesn't change it from being the best overall motor in this scenario, pretty useless rant😂
That type S is here to compete!
This is what I’m seeing after all these MDX videos! Highly impressed with this thing!
I’ve owned the X5, and I thought it’d smoke the MDX. But I also had a 2019 Odyssey Elite, and the 10 Speed on the interstate made that van RUN away from traffic once cooking. Heck, that van did 0-60 in 6.0 seconds flat. Highly impressed.
The Audi its very quiet inside the cabin 🤯🤯🤯
The BMW also,Acura it's a little bit noisy compared to those 2.
I’m sure the 12 resonators on the exhaust help 😂
@@Sle3p520 and the extra 100 lbs of weight
@@shanGoes924 LOL...check the 6000 pound cars tax credit, the Q8 is on that list :D
When the MDX Type S engine and Transmission engineered fresh out of Japan, you know its on point. Transmission plays a great role when the HP torque ratio is not more than 30 HP difference.
The J30AC wasn’t developed in Japan. It was developed in Ohio. Only Acura sedans are developed in Japan.
@@lawrenceredden9049it’s based off the old j30, so yeah still developed in Japan.
@@lawrenceredden9049 not true, the engine was designed and developed in Japan. The TLX reveal video in 2021 went over that in detail.
@@lawrenceredden9049actually 100% of acuras are made in ohio. The last one made in Japan is the rlx which was discontinued.
100% of acuras are made in ohio. They are USDM. Not sold in Japan either.
Great video. The Acura was pretty impressive. Especially at speed.
Remember it just competed with the basic models. Acuras performance was best by base models.
You have mid performance X5M60 and SQ8. Those are in another league. This make you laugh hard.
Then insanity is X5M and RSQ8. You will be left with impressions that you will never forget. Pure insanity!
I wish Acura could compete.
Damn Acura ! With the right driver this would’ve been MDX all day especially in the rolls.
Thats what i though because in roll races the way you stab the throttle dictates the downshift many times they should have changed the drivers
I THINK SO
it looks that Honda has build a good V6 T 👍
Isn’t that their performance offering though? Hardly beating the economic version of both Q8 and X5.
@@stefanomarcellino6701 I don´t say it´s perfect or amazing or very good, I say it´s good for a Japanese engine because we know reliability is more important then performance for them.
@@stefanomarcellino6701I guess, but even then, I wouldn’t call a B58 an economic engine by any means as they use it in m340i and Z4, and is the mid range between their economic 4 cylinder (B48) used in their 30i cars
@@stefanomarcellino6701not really, still a family suv but with more power… it’s not for full on performance
@@stefanomarcellino6701 Ever heard of apples to apples?
I really appreciate you guys making this during the weather. Those are real world enviroments that I want to see more of.
That was the idea :)
The sound test felt like listening to Dyson vs Black+Decker vs Bissell
💀
I thought the exact same thing
Nothing a function werk exhaust didn't fix on my Type S in quick order.
fix your mic it only plays audio left side sounding @@SamCarLegion
It’s a no brainer for me. MDX Type S all day long. Reliable, great awd. You can’t beat it.
Reliable? You must be living in the past.
Nah, I think you're the one who thinks that Honda Acura quality is going downwards but in reality, Honda Acura is still tops. Maybe instead of looking at fake JD 2 year initial quality charts, the best way to figure this out is by listening to warranty companies and companies that actually have millions of repair invoices to go off of? 🤡🤡🤡
Well... It is compared to what's out there. I'll take my chance with an Acura over a BMW any day when it comes to reliability @SBM200612
@@SBM200612 Sorry man but, both my 21 TLX and 22 MDX (both first year models) have been completely bulletproof.
@@MidnightAspecwell no shit idio+ it’s only 2 years lmao give it 5-6 years hahaha that car sucks check the reviews on these cars
Came in to watch the BMW win. But left quite surprised by the MDX.
This is old X5. New one makes lot more power.
All are good cars. I would lease the Audi and BMW and buy the Acura!
So you’re not smart at all
Ummm… ok
@@WhereKevinX5 is very reliable nowadays
I would buy BMW. Least issues out of them all. Acura has lots of transmission issues.
@@ryanb8736 And BMW has a lot of engine issues.
Would like to see this race again with the updated 2024 X5. BMW up’d the power to 375hp on paper, which means it’s now making somewhere near 400hp.
And burning and leaking twice as much oil.
@@akuragang1990its funny seeing comments like these becuase it proves u have never owned a bmw thats 2020 or newer. Their cars are extremely reliable now.
Reliable, yes. But, expensive as hell to maintain and for no reason outside of corporate greed! That was enough for me to ditch the BMW I had on order for the Type S.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z 2020 are still brand new cars under warranty - I hope the Germans have learned to make cars that last that long before breaking down!
@@nathancheatwood6315 not expensive at all, i have a 2022 x3 m40i and a 2017 540i both with the b58, all i do is oil changes every 8000km and im good
WOW super close!! Thank you Sam. Love the weather conditions for this race. Best video by far.
I have a 2023 tlx type s n trust me people do not want that smoke in the wild. All the keyboard warriors who talk smack about Acura and the Type S end up looking at how nice my tail lights are very quickly.
A tuned 2.0T accord walks a type S. I seen it happen and I was in shock. 340i obliterates it. It’s a nice car but it’s lacking against the competition
@@larryzeldin7561 no way in hell, maybe that type s was stock but mine ain’t n there’s absolutely no way a 2.0 T is walking me whatsoever 😂 I’ve absolutely dog walked m340i’s so maybe you should own the car do some mods and you’d know…
@@larryzeldin7561 Ok 🤡🤡🤡
MDX TYPE S FTW🎉
Yooo I’m surprised the Acura beat the Audi tbh let alone the ground gaining on races with the. X5 makes me smile as a Honda Acura fan✊🏾
The MDX is the newest car, the BMW is 4 years old!
Yeah the b58 equipped X5s walks that Mdx easily on the roll and launches like crazy creating a gap instantly and then walks away from it. Drove my friend mad lol
@@MauriceBln1the MDX came out in 2021 as a 2022 model
MDX is performance. BMW and Audi are just their base models. They have two models above these.
SQ8 will make you laugh and giggle. It sounds like a muscle car. It’s a detuned Urus. Still 500hp.
Then you have RSQ8 with 650hp. That will make you wake up at 3am and drive with no reason except for pure enjoyment.
@@ryanb8736 here we go 🙄
Someone with a quicker reaction time would have won all races with the MDX it’s the faster SUV in this lineup.
No it’s not. Also this is an old X5 with 335 hp. New 2024 makes 390 now. MDX makes 270 at wheels on dyno. X5 makes over 350 on dyno. Massive difference now.
So 2024 MDX high performance Type S vs an actual 2024 X5 only base model, the X5 is a lot faster.
Keep in mind this is Acuras top performance model. This is BMw’s base. BMW has the X5M60 and the X5M. Both of those are in another league.
X5 base is easily tunable to 500hp plus with ease. Acura is capped out at 380 with tune. Acuras isssue is bottlenecked in the small head ports. Heads will need to be changed to gain more power. ECU is locked to 6k rpm max.
Acura is a great driving vehicle. Don’t expect to tune it for more power. Plus its transmission is weak. Lots of issues.
9:54 the best way to make the MDX faster for drag racing is to put the car in S mode, hit the paddle down for M1, then let the computer shift at redline for every gear. When you slow down it will choose the lowest gear ⚙️ possible, except M1 until you stop.
WAIT IT WASNT EVEN I NSPORT MODE SMH
@@deesr.6641 , I think he started to ignore all the settings because there are too many for each car manufacturer. OOTB out of the box 📦 is the best way he can replicate .
Kinda wanna see TLX-S vs MDX-S drag race each other. Acura did well with this. I'm surprisingly impressed.
I'm a coupe guy, but wouldn't mind owning a type s in all black with an aftermarket exhaust.
I wonder why Acura decided to use a 3.5L on the TLX Type S versus a 3.0L on the MDX Type S.
Update: my bad both use the same 3.0L engine
@@noelsaw they both have the j30
@@josemondragon7695I traded my accord coupe in for a 23 TLX-S in all black with the body kit, black badges, and black y-spokes.
It's the most odious- looking vehicle I've ever owned. I bought the test pipe and I'm going to do a slightly louder exhaust soon.
Shit the 07 tl type s I had was keeping up with the tlx type s until we go to higher speeds . But my scat was eating them up lol😂
Id take the MDX cause top end. That vtec 6 cylinder just keeps pullin hard 🏁
It’s not a Vtec. It also only revs to 6k rpm max, so there is no top end. So not sure where you are getting your info from. This is not a J35. It’s a J30.
Really enjoyed the weather and videography combo in this one. Lovely shots.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing line up, many people really wanted to see this.
A great way to start the day!! Thank you, Sam!
B58 + 8Speed ZF = Rocks
First time viewing your video and truly appreciate your explanation of your drag race! 👏 great example of vehicles!!
X5 is an absolute demon wow considering it is a 2020
Never thought I’d see the day where we would be drag racing SUVs 😂
It’s every car’s God given right to be drag raced tbh
Lol, you should look up van drag racing 😂
You find it funny but the last thing you would want to do is race my x5M with a stage 2 tune. I leave most sport cars in the dust.
Honda/Acura engines are quite good... their transmissions, not so much. Interesting results and great racing. My pick is still the Acura MDX.
This 10 speed is inhouse built, the other one you mentioned wasn't built by Honda.
That was very impressive for the MDX. Wow
The lady knows how to launch! Great job.
Better than the ACURA, the new ACURA only!!!!!! Type S magnificent, gorgeous. Tiger Eye, White Pearl😍😍😍😍. Owner of MDX 2 restyle 2011. Best in the world. I love my car. My blondie
Wow the MDX type S is fucking amazing . It bears more SUVS compared to the TLX type S vs its competition.
I just upgraded from the MDX Tech to Type S Advanced last week. After seeing this, I can stick out my chest for sure!! Great video 🔥🔥
DIFFERENCE WORTH IT?
2024 X5 makes 390 hp. One in video only made 335. That was a 2020 X5 and is only a base.
Awesome video love it)
En la 2 carrera saliste Adelante en la carrera de la BMW 👁️✍🏽🏃🏽♂️! Saludos desde la República Dominicana 🇩🇴
De lo mío! Ponga eso en Google Translate por lo menos jaja
@@Libertinonop, y pq traducir ? Que traduscan Ellos !!!
Let’s understand this the Acura type S is the BEST ACURA CAN OFFER however this BMW is a base model BMW has 2 more powerful models M60 and X5M. The same apply for the Audi it’s a base model with 2 more powerful models like SQ8 RSQ8
I really like that Acura
I love Acura cars ❤❤😍😍
SH-AWD got grip for DAYS. There's barely any slip when you take off in a car with that AWD system. Can't say the same for Xdrive
Xdrive is more fun to to Drive cus its more rear biased. And when you really need the grip it becomes 50 50 split.
Acura does have an amazing AWD. I just with the rest was better.
@@amerrr3368true. It’s real performance.
That’s why they called it Super Handling All Wheel Drive.
MDX Type-S is the best value for dollar
Not sure about the 2024 but remember in on the 2023 model Type S is less loaded than the SHAWD and less comfortable as well. The sound system, vented seats that are standard on SHAWD are not equipped on Type S.
I believe you can get that in the Type S but need to pay more@@manofsesame3024
@@manofsesame3024 My value for dollar comment is comparing the Type-S to the other SUV's in the video and not other MDX models. I can't speak to US models but in Canada the Type-S Ultra (there is only one model now) has every feature and more than the lower models. There is no feature a lower model has that's better or missing from the Type-S Ultra
The Type-S Ultra is $88K Canadian, a similar spec X5 is going to cost you at least $20K more which is why I feel the Type-S is such a good value
@@manofsesame3024nothing you stated is factual.
Acura got everything right with the MDX, if only the performance of the TLX was as impressive
see that snow falling? yup let's go drag racing!
WoW...Acura did well.
BMW - It's just something else.
Audi Q8 - Two things, lazy gear box and it's on the list of the 6000lbs cars. Check the tax credit and you'll see.
I’m very impressed with the MDX, and Acura’s lineup in general. This makes me question the TLX now, it’s not a slow car by any means just too heavy. Also, as a BMW owner, they definitely underrate their power figures by a lot. This was a great video!! Keep it up!
Acura Mdx types is in my future imma tune it up
Tune won’t get you much power. They chose small port heads to get instant power at low rpm for instant gratification for best daily. Huge problem is tuning.
You need to change the heads to large port and change manifold and turbo. About 20k job.
Then the big problem is TCU is locked down and won’t rev past 6k rpm. You also can’t drive in manual as it will upshift at 6k. Plus its transmission is plagued with issues. Also its max torque is 340 pounds.
I researched it all. I wanted one, but decided to go a different route now. Great vehicles if you leave them stock. Superb daily car and SUV’s. Too much money if you want true performance though.
Acura MDX all the way
Why wouldn’t you take an Audi or BMW from Germany? Or even a CX90 Turbo S despite it being Japanese?😂 I like the Acura but just curious.. I’d rather the Germans
@@christianbryant5617 because with Acura you get the best of both worlds, performance and reliability
That B58 engine is something else
I love my rdx and my mdx type S silver with red interior
The Audi Q8 sounds lame prolly due to the soft limiter. Great fun these races of your Sam. Keeping us entertained during the winter....even if some of us are no where near snow.
Great review and car! But I wish Acura produce the same or improved Hybrid trim for MDX Type S that it had on RLX, so it becomes more efficient and maybe even faster. In this case I 100% buy one.
The Bimmer actually makes over 380 bhp, not the advertised 335 hp.
The 2024 4.0 model bumped up to 375HP. Prior years made 335.
@@stevenfarley4738it made 335hp to the wheels. BMW advertises wheel horsepower. For 2024, they advertised the actual crank hp lol
@@drivescene6747 so, no real bump in HP, just a change in reporting methodology?
@@stevenfarley4738 I should have worded that differently. For 2024 the 375hp is close to the actual power it makes, as they added a mild hybrid system which not only boosted the power but also aids in fuel efficiency. BMW always underrates their hp figures, so this new one is probably making 420hp
@@drivescene6747 so, to clarify and "underrating" aside, the 2020 X5 in your test makes an advertised 335 RWHP and the Type S makes 355 RWHP?
All these comments are funny about people picking the a brand new mdx over brand bmw x5 because bmw is unreliable. One even said he ditched his new X5 for a mdx because the maintenance was to high well guess what little kids BMWs come with a bumper to bumper warranty for 4 years/50k miles and bmw ultimate care maintenance for 3 years/36k miles. Bunch of teenagers talking on the internet that ride a scooter. Truth is BMW is the better car,sales numbers speaks for itself. This is coming from an ex bmw fanboy that owned 9 different bmw’s… I used to buy used ones and then started leasing them but now I hate anything bmw starting from 2010ish onwards,I’m an older man now and I drive a Lexus now as my daily and got a S550 mustang GT as my weekend.
Impressive the mdx S is a sexy beast .....I hv an older mdx .....I want the new one
What year do you have?
People where I live drive 20 under the limit with the hazards on if it's 50 degrees (10 °C) and the pavement is wet... meanwhile you're drag racing with snow on the ground. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🥶🥶🥶🥶
I hear you. The worst side effect of COVID is the addition of drivers who really shouldn't be driving. Definitely the decelerate in the acceleration lane crowd.
Wow I’m really proud of Acura MDX BRAVO 👏🏾
Acura needs to further engineer the J30AC to become a monster. They need to make it a goal to make this engine the “transverse equivalent of the B58” meaning make big power and impressive efficiency. Hopefully add a mild hybrid or actual hybrid assist like that MDX hybrid they had years back.
I think it’s just great the way it is. Perfect vehicle with a perfect awd system.
@@ZACH_95_ it is a great system with a silky smooth engine but it has downfalls vs competition. Mainly having VCM which is destructive to the engine long term and being behind in fuel economy and power vs competition from bmw. Honda used to be kings of efficiency and power considering engine size. I would be critical on them to push them to engineer to their capabilities.
B58 the best.
DONT THINK THEY WOULD CAUSE INSURANCE WOUL DBE HIGHER AND LESS SALES THEY ASSUME
Awesome Acura MDX !
We agree!
The apparent lack of sound insulation in the MDX is glaring. Was the Acura really that much louder inside, or was the mic set up different in the MDX than in the Audi and the BMW? I'm impressed by the MDX in all other ways, but if the interior noise is that bad, it's a deal breaker.
Nice race.
Curious how the Stelvio Q4 would do against the MDX, they have similar 0-60 times. Stelvio Q4 has 280hp but weighs 700lbs less, so regardless of the Acura's extra horsepower, it could be an even match. Thoughts?
The Stelvio Q4 is more comparable to the RDX and the Stelvio would be quicker than the RDX.
Hi Sam. This was a good drag and roll race between these three SUVs. Overall, the Acura MDX Type S performed well. Even though it has more horsepower and torque than the BMW X5, the X5 had the advantage due to the fact that the pound feet of torque for it gets achieved at lower RPMs. The 330 pound feet of torque gets achieved quickly at just 1,500 RPMs. That's the difference right there. As for the Audi Q8 S Line, from my view the exhaust sounded better for it than the other two vehicles. Unfortunately, that's where the fun stops for it though. In a upcoming drag & roll race video it would be nice to see the Jeep Grand Cherokee L with the 5.7 liter V8 engine go up against these three vehicles from this video. Also, to go up against the Genesis GV80 and Ford Explorer ST. The performance numbers for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L with the V8 engine produces 357 horsepower and 390 pound feet of torque. Nice competitive numbers. That's the vehicle I have.
Check his channel. Both the GV80 and the ST made an appearance against the MDX. The CGL 5.7L is heavy and slow. That should change once they put their new inline 6 from the Wagoneer.
@chiemekaa I've seen the video couple weeks ago you're referring to between the Genesis GV80, Acura MDX Type S and Ford Explorer ST. I saw that video already. The Ford Explorer ST won that challenge. That was a very interesting challenge. The Jeep Grand Cherokee L with the 5.7 liter V8 engine is not slow. Nope. It has the competitive numbers to challenge the Genesis GV80, Acura MDX Type S, BMW X5 shown in this video, Audi Q8 S Line shown in this video and the Ford Explorer ST. It's not going to beat all five of those vehicles. It will not. However, it'll beat either two or three of them though. One way to test out the performance is to race it against the five vehicles I mentioned. Simple as that.
I used to have an MDX Type S, and for that price I rather go with the X3M evern with 2 rows seat
I think the difference why the mdx always takes off slower is the drivers reaction time. The final drag race the bimmer was brake torquing but we don’t if the mdx was
Base model petrol German SUVs vs the fastest Japanese SUV...
Interesting...that MDX is very similar to my 3.5 Ecoboost flex from 2016 lol
The only BMW to rein supreme over Acura in performance AND reliability.
I’m very surprised at the Acura’s performance.
I like the MDX more than the other two. I wonder how the S8 would have performed tho.
I plan on getting the MDX type S refresh for 2025 this summer. So excited.
I didn’t expect the MDX would be that close to the BMW. Both suv are very nice cars but to be a smart buyer, and the car that last longer and cost less than BMW, I w would have to spend my money on the MDX
Just curious.. why race in cold and snowy weather?
100db running 150 km/h in Acura, meanwhile in Audi and Bmw u chilling:)
That B58 Is A WEAPON in any platform.. SUV or Sedan!
great engine.
The B58 and the zf8 are the best drivetrain combo on the market today
Hands down the best drivetrain that is also available with a a huge community and parts everywhere.
As a 2024 Audi SQ8 owner, I love it, but the other vehicle we are getting this year will be the MDX type S. It’s an awesome car.
we need to see mdx type s VS durango RT
After the race, that bmw would got oil leak lol
This could be true 15 years ago, now it is reliable 😊
@@user-hi1xc3pn1e Recent models are not enough old to breakdown. N54 which is notorious for terrible reliability has good reliability rating at that time.
These B58’s do not leak. They are one of the best modern engines ever built. Toyota even put their badge on it with Supra. Same drivetrain.
So what you are saying is a lie.
Now Google Acura recalls all J35 engines and 10 speed transmissions. Also steering racks failing and stop sales.
@@user-yh7be9fk6mB58 is a legendary engine that’s been out for almost 10 years. Toyota even approved it.
Consumer reports listed X5 as top 10 best cars. No Acuras were listed. Sorry.
Learn the facts.
@@ryanb8736 Here comes the Disadvantages of the B58B30 engine
Most of the complaints on the specialized forums are related to a decrease in the coolant level. The exact cause is unknown, but sometimes replacing the expansion tank cap helps.
It’s a pretty hot engine and blows head gaskets regularly. Usually, a strong smell of burnt oil appears immediately, and often smoke.
Like most gasoline direct injection engines, B58 engines often suffer from floating engine speeds due to carbon deposits on the intake valves.
Rarer problems here are related to the Vanos phase shifters, the canister valve and the oil filter, which falls apart when replaced, and it is not so easy to get it.
Sorry.
Learn the REAL FACTS.
What a location 🥶👌
Ktune the Acura with some breathing mods then it would be untouchable
No it won’t. You clearly don’t know about these new J30 engines. They have small port heads and small Turbo. That makes max power at low rpm and is limited to 6k rpm max. This makes for a perfect daily driver with power in the whole rev range. Instant gratification.
Now the problem is tuning. ECU and TCU is locked and limited to 6Krpm. You will need to upgrade heads and have them opened up and ported, add a large port manifold, along with bigger turbo. Easy 20k job and your warranty is done. Half the engine has to come apart.
Now the bigger problem. Transmission is max torque to 340 pounds. It’s also max range is 6k rpm.
A bigger turbo will make huge power from 4500rpm to 7500, but won’t go past 6k. Now you see the problem.
This is why you don’t see these all modded. I build cars for a living.
Acura did this to save the 10 speed from blowing up. They chose in house 10 speed for cost and availability. It’s not a performance transmission. They learned the hard way with Honda minivan with J35 and 10 speeds blowing up under high rpm’s.
Research is your best friend. This is why many TLX and MDX Type S owners are upset with Acura.
Also keep in mind, a Ktuner will give max 20 hp. It will also void warranty when the transmission blows. Many transmissions are having issues.
This is why you see many of them for sale. Many trade them in for BMW or Audi if they want performance and reliability.
Mod for mod and stock vs stock, mdx isn't good enough for the x5 b58
Incredible
I love paying less for my Acuras and I hope no one else likes them so the price will stay put. 😊
After having to change the brake master cylinder in a 2013 X5 with only 60k miles, I doubt I'll get another beamer. I have been looking at the MDX for a while now.
Acura…hands down…better looking, sublime reliability, , and won’t cost you and arm and a leg to fix it.
Acura is premium car, dealerships won’t fix it as it could be Honda. Same price as bmw or audi
Huh? Acura won’t cost anywhere near the Germans to fix. Acura and Lexus are both reliable German Brands will cost you a mortgage to maintain. Hell no to German brands
@@PsychicMedium4747 currently bmw are reliable, as for price breakdown, acura and bmw dealers charge similar amount for service.
@6:27 he upshifts the Q8 with the paddle shifter and says come on Audi.
This test doesn’t mean much since that is a pre-LCI X5. There’s no real reason for this since the LCI has been out since mid 2023. The 2024 xDrive 40i has a lot more horsepower than the one you tested
I test drove all those cars and the Audi and Acura pale in comparison to the 2024 X5, which is why there’s a 2024 X5 in my garage. The Acura in particular felt cheap and disappointing throughout as it’s really just a somewhat improved Honda Pilot.
Is it the hybrid version of X5?
@@sairohan5979
The X5 in this video is a 2023 or earlier xDrive 40i, so it’s what BMW calls a mild hybrid. There was also a 45e model that was a PHEV.
For 2024, the xDrive40i got an improved mild hybrid system and a large increase in horsepower and torque. It also adds significant technology improvements.
The base model 2023 X5 in this video was already better than the very best MDX. With all the 2024 model year improvements, the MDX falls farther behind in every area including performance, luxury, comfort, technology and reliability. The only thing the MDX still has going for it is price and if I cared about price, I’d get a Honda Pilot.
finally mdx versus x5 but would have liked regular mdx . thanks guys
damn never mind last comment lol BMW is damn beast I wonder if the driver of MDX knew what they were doing. overall thanks to participants for finally making this video
Yeah, how much does the Break My wallet costs??
Dude there's a Q8 that parks outside my job everyday so im excited to see what its got!
Turns out not that much haha. Whoever owns it has the same color and in person it looks really nice and fresh for a modern car entering this awkward "psuedo-electric design" language that a lot of cars are adopting now. Good races!
Not fair because this BMW is the old old version 2020 is outdated
They need to bring the 2024 BMW X5 and you’ll see an even huge gape this car is unbelievable 😂😂😂😂
The newer model just advertises crank hp while this one advertised wheel hp. It's not a noticable difference it's just because they added a mild hybrid for start stop so ofc they had to update the numbers
Would love to see a drag between the TLX Type S and the 540i xdrive.
Be a tight race but that 540 might edge it out
@@Infamousdee240 hard to say
Honda Gearbox. Legendary.
Love the x5 😍 what’s funny is that there are way faster versions of the X5 and the base model X5 beats the Type S
You should do an x5 50i vs an x5 40 I and that DMX
Watching the Ford exploerer st smoke the mdx before watching this video makes it that much better.
That is impressive for the MDX.
Is500 vs tlx type s?
Great weather conditions to do an SUV drag race
Acura impressed me the most , i just wish it wasn’t 70K 😂
The only reason Acura is quicker than Audi is the 10 speed transmission. Gear ratios are closer. BMW puts out more power than what the factory specs suggest.
It’s also a 100lbs lighter. Those 100lbs matter.
@user-se8lu5qy6c.. I would love to see the Dyno numbers showing BMW's putting out way more horsepower than the factory specs suggest! I've been asking you BMW fanboys to show underrated Dyno numbers, but that has yet to happen!
@@DalHarpJr Sometimes it does depend on the dyno also but BMW does underrate their power figures just like any other brand German brand.