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  • The story of how security researchers used a pair of tweezers defeated security on the Nintendo Wii console in 2007.
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  • @emdotrod
    @emdotrod Před 4 lety +17043

    Can't wait to see the new "Mistakes Were Made" video about how a paperclip defeated security on the Nintendo Switch.

    • @TobiasSN
      @TobiasSN Před 4 lety +690

      I believe it actually intended as a way for Nintendo to test the Switch (And probably to help fix them).

    • @funnifurrytechgirl
      @funnifurrytechgirl Před 4 lety +61

      Amen, brother

    • @robdAK
      @robdAK Před 4 lety +172

      I thought he already did switch mod videos but those were pulled down by Nintendo.

    • @TrueSkyl1n3
      @TrueSkyl1n3 Před 4 lety +96

      gtrunner _ oh man what a day that was when that was released to the public, I flipped my shit knowing my PSP could be hacked no matter what using just a spare battery 😂

    • @TheMAZZTer
      @TheMAZZTer Před 4 lety +173

      Actually I think Nintendo to their credit was not responsible for that one. IIRC it was a bug in the recovery mode of the nVidia Tegra chip, so it was nVidia's mess up. The paperclip is used to activate the recovery mode, but if it functioned properly the recovery mode would be useless for everything except officially done repairs.

  • @billclinton4913
    @billclinton4913 Před 4 lety +8121

    The S in Nintendo stands for secure.

    • @flying_Night_slasher
      @flying_Night_slasher Před 4 lety +215

      There is no s but I get it nonetheless.

    • @flying_Night_slasher
      @flying_Night_slasher Před 4 lety +109

      @Jake Makes Vids I understood the joke there is no S so Nintendo Stuff is just left wide open.

    • @DaniFold
      @DaniFold Před 4 lety +120

      thre isz no S!!!!!111

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 Před 4 lety +321

      Obviously, the joke is that there is no S - but nobody gets jokes anymore.

    • @HM-bz6fj
      @HM-bz6fj Před 4 lety +86

      kargaroc386 bro u still make jokes in 2020 cringe

  • @mudkip2400
    @mudkip2400 Před 4 lety +1785

    his voice is so clear that even the auto translate subtitles know what hes saying

    • @superdude11235
      @superdude11235 Před 3 lety +75

      Yep...perfect Chinese

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 Před 3 lety +16

      Honestly that's a talent all in it's own

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 Před 3 lety +51

      @@superdude11235 he means the english auto translate mate

    • @jmtrad1906
      @jmtrad1906 Před 3 lety +12

      Way Mini, my favorite console

    • @keishakamila
      @keishakamila Před 3 lety +16

      Put captions 0:59 and it says RVL 0 0 1 large bubble

  • @Travelinmatt1976
    @Travelinmatt1976 Před 3 lety +796

    I still remember the first time Homebrew booted up on my Wii, I was so excited. Hooked up an external hard drive and backed up all "my" games.

    • @recoupxtra7270
      @recoupxtra7270 Před 3 lety +25

      " + " = very important.

    • @CocoaEm
      @CocoaEm Před 2 lety +86

      @@recoupxtra7270 the classic technique. Rent a game and then dump it. I'm pretty sure most hacked wii owners have at least done this once.

    • @BeesUSA
      @BeesUSA Před 2 lety +23

      Me too. First console I had ever hacked. Felt like my third eye opened

    • @IshioRamo
      @IshioRamo Před 2 lety +21

      I know that feeling as well, I've read so much on wii hacking before doing it because I only had 1 shot at it. Took me 3 weeks to hack the thing because I had to make sure I understood each step to the teeth XD but damn running that HBC for the first time felt great.

    • @missiondemolition
      @missiondemolition Před 2 lety +5

      I have had this feeling and it was so satisfying. My Wii is a white RVL-001 model. I think mine was made in 2008.

  • @billclinton4913
    @billclinton4913 Před 4 lety +4772

    Nintendo: The Nintendo switch is unhackable, you'll never get in.
    Hackers: Hold my Paperclip.

  • @plasticjuice6775
    @plasticjuice6775 Před 4 lety +2837

    Bro, I just wanted to see someone stick tweezers into a Wii...

    • @ATD2302
      @ATD2302 Před 4 lety +47

      Plasticjuice that’s what she said

    • @mikemercury5654
      @mikemercury5654 Před 4 lety +38

      Yeah with the power on so they get electrocuted .

    • @PassTheSnails
      @PassTheSnails Před 4 lety +93

      That’s literally what my friend did to my wii one night trying to get his kirby airride out when it wouldn’t eject. Literally sucked the tweezers out of his hand.

    • @mauriciojuarez3054
      @mauriciojuarez3054 Před 4 lety

      Ditto lol

    • @Chris-mc2dt
      @Chris-mc2dt Před 4 lety +12

      Bilbo BT
      Lol this guy hasn’t learned about sounding yet

  • @Magicman8508
    @Magicman8508 Před 3 lety +714

    I'm always impressed how much knowledge people must have to hack into a system.

    • @photlam9769
      @photlam9769 Před rokem +26

      And I am always when companies lack the knowledge to properly counter it

    • @Tonybaloney6969
      @Tonybaloney6969 Před rokem +68

      @@photlam9769 ironically cyber security is probably one of the most underpaid depts in most organizations.
      In another note, It also takes a lot of creativity and overall knowledge to make jailbreaks/homebrews

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira Před rokem +20

      @@Tonybaloney6969 because cyber security doesn't inherently produce money. It's simply an expenditure that companies gamble on. Like a cheap insurance plan with a million dollar car. They will pay as little as they can "safely" pay, unlike paying a senior dev 150k because they produce 50% of the work in a small to medium company.

    • @H0ttabych
      @H0ttabych Před rokem +2

      @@photlam9769 When it comes to companies, usually programmers get paid fixed, not so very high amount of money. Most of the times they don't really care about the end result much, just following guidelines, ensuring everything is up to them and receiving their monthly payment. Now, hacking usually comes with passion, people who hack hack out of the heart and soul rather than pursuing money.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie Před 9 měsíci

      @@H0ttabych the shareholders and thus the employers pay for implemented features. It is incredibly difficult to explain to a manager why you *need* to "fix" code that is working just fine and even when exploited, only has minor impact, because other systems act as fail-safes. There is also double standards in code review: Add 2000 Lines of codes and the review bounces between systemic questions and variable naming convention. Try to change 5 lines of code and you get a very tough review, where you get asked to fix misnamed variables, check for the same exploit in other areas, tripple check and proof that the fix does not cause unrelated issues... and also write unit test. The code is not written do be unit tested? Too bad, codeing rules changed, every fix needs a unit test proofing that the fix fixes what it claims and does not break existing functionallity. Note that "do not cause unrelated new issues" is in direct contradiction to "check for the same exploit in other areas" and "rename all variables you touched to our newest guideline". Also, try not to add new errors while rewritting everything to get it unit testable. So, now look at the productivity index: One developer commits 2000 lines of code in a week. An other developer needs weeks for just 5 lines.

  • @sturmwind1180
    @sturmwind1180 Před 3 lety +419

    My understanding is that Nintendo assume that each and every hardware revision will eventually be hacked. And their 'security' implementations are designed to simply slow down and place obstacles in the way of such efforts, particularly during that initial period where console sales are enjoying the most momentum.

    • @silverarrowgaming1077
      @silverarrowgaming1077 Před 2 lety +90

      That is literally the point of every consoles security

    • @TheSterlingArcher16
      @TheSterlingArcher16 Před 2 lety +49

      The closest we’ve been to an unhackable console was the PS3. And that was only for about 3 years.

    • @junehanabi1756
      @junehanabi1756 Před rokem +5

      @@TheSterlingArcher16 I do recall some other console, I dont remember which, it was much older and took a special disc but almost everything was encrypted and it took years before people figured it out and the only way people figured it out was by backwards compatibility with a regular disc and through that they did some hacking magic and figured out how to break through the encyption and run homebrew. I think if it wasn't for the backwards comaptibility with normal discs it would have been considered unhackable. I don't remember which console this was, maybe the dreamcast or maybe something else. I know immediately afterwards they started releasing models that didn't have the backwards compatibility but it was too late.

    • @rhetz1562
      @rhetz1562 Před rokem +8

      @@TheSterlingArcher16 Wii mini, "am I a joke to you"

    • @malourocha9211
      @malourocha9211 Před rokem +6

      @@junehanabi1756 sounds like the Sega Saturn?

  • @whodoyouthink5890
    @whodoyouthink5890 Před 4 lety +1746

    Uh oh,
    I've wandered into the smart side of youtube

  • @yaboichipsahoy2520
    @yaboichipsahoy2520 Před 4 lety +6565

    Me watching this video pretending to know what he’s talking about

    • @cameronjohnson5983
      @cameronjohnson5983 Před 4 lety +32

      😂🤣

    • @donnaburke8212
      @donnaburke8212 Před 4 lety +134

      literally looked for this exact comment so I could say same.

    • @valonarious5399
      @valonarious5399 Před 4 lety +44

      Same here, but I understood a little bit of it.

    • @robertpatterson8437
      @robertpatterson8437 Před 4 lety +51

      Literally don’t know why I watched this all the way through thinking I’d understand it

    • @definesigint2823
      @definesigint2823 Před 4 lety +34

      Like anything else, you start to pick it up with practice :)

  • @thecommenter578
    @thecommenter578 Před 3 lety +162

    "a pair of tweezers defeated security"...
    Picking lawyer: interesting

  • @doubleirishdutchsandwich4740

    The Verge: Those are not tweezers, those are zip ties

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario Před 4 lety +2330

    The graphite pencil defeating the circuit board of the psp battery.

  • @flanno4549
    @flanno4549 Před 4 lety +2154

    - goes by the name sega
    - wii OS called ios

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason Před 4 lety +47

      Strange isn't it..

    • @cheesypotatoson
      @cheesypotatoson Před 4 lety +262

      Well the iPhone wasn't going to be released for another year and wasn't called iOS till 2010. However Ciscos routers OS is also called IOS and they own the trademark for it, which is why apple license the name from them but Nintendo got away with it, probably because it was never marketing as IOS

    • @TechLeftBehind
      @TechLeftBehind Před 4 lety +93

      Sorry to ruin the joke, but the name is actually "segher". Really did sound like MVG said "sega" though.

    • @realcartoongirl
      @realcartoongirl Před 4 lety +63

      @@cheesypotatoson
      nintendo: *commits crime*
      nintendo: hehehehehe
      nintendo customr: *pirates game*
      nintendo: 😡😡😡

    • @JN20022
      @JN20022 Před 4 lety +19

      So in theory the Wii is an Apple product, since it does run IOS

  • @thewolfofthestars1847
    @thewolfofthestars1847 Před 3 lety +633

    Me, a biologist, watching this video: Ahh yes the code is made out of code

    • @ENCHANTMEN_
      @ENCHANTMEN_ Před 3 lety +52

      So basically they took a bunch of sand and put lightning in it and now it can think

    • @kylek.3689
      @kylek.3689 Před 2 lety +3

      Rumor mill

    • @douggale5962
      @douggale5962 Před 2 lety +3

      At the subatomic level, transistors operate in a way that is more similar to stochastic biological processes than one might think.

    • @DustWolphy
      @DustWolphy Před 2 lety +1

      it's not that different from RNA

    • @thundercockjackson
      @thundercockjackson Před rokem +2

      they turned the wii into a GMO

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai Před 3 lety +91

    What I have learned by watching this channel, no matter what security you put on a machine someone will find a way to hack it. Ultimately if you have physical access to the hard ware you will find a way to defeat the security. Excellent video, I love to hear these stories. I wonder how long it will take to defeat PS-5 security.

    • @vincenzofranchelli2201
      @vincenzofranchelli2201 Před 2 lety +8

      You can always alter physical hardware into almost identical physical hardware but with the adjustments you want. You might not know how, it might be so precise and delicate a human couldnt be expected to pull it off. But its always possible

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 Před 10 měsíci

      *hardware

    • @user-um9te4yn9g
      @user-um9te4yn9g Před měsícem +1

      Ps5 homebrew is here now, and its rapidly improving. Its not as big as the wii's homebrew community but still.

  • @andrewrobotbuilder
    @andrewrobotbuilder Před 4 lety +1394

    Wii: Defeated by tweezers
    Switch: Defeated by paperclip
    Future console: Defeated by iron filings

    • @thecommentato4
      @thecommentato4 Před 4 lety +63

      Futurer console:defeated by *_F I N G E R_*

    • @sethgamman
      @sethgamman Před 4 lety +40

      Futurest console: Defeated by *_S T I C K_*

    • @kieranlolkgkg8949
      @kieranlolkgkg8949 Před 4 lety +63

      furturestiersies console: defeated by *N O T H I N G B U T A I R*

    • @StraightFlame
      @StraightFlame Před 4 lety +20

      Futurester console: Defeated by oxygen molecule

    • @lol2fast323
      @lol2fast323 Před 4 lety +15

      All of goddamn google: defeated by a rock.

  • @min432g
    @min432g Před 4 lety +1582

    Me: Its 1AM I should go to sleep.
    CZcams: How a pair of tweezers defeated the Wii's security system.
    Me: Well well well then let's find out.

    • @CEfect
      @CEfect Před 4 lety +28

      What about this “ I don’t need sleep I need answers”

    • @bluecookie4206
      @bluecookie4206 Před 3 lety +8

      Literally the exact same thing happened to me.

    • @ebrumVids
      @ebrumVids Před 3 lety +2

      Looll it's 1 am for meh

    • @themanwhopickles
      @themanwhopickles Před 3 lety +4

      Yoooo im actually watching at 3:20 am

    • @rosalindewing1205
      @rosalindewing1205 Před 3 lety +2

      Same right now in fact

  • @penumbra0182
    @penumbra0182 Před 3 lety +77

    0:32
    CORRECTION: The PS3 went on sale in 2006, very shortly before the Wii launch, not with the Xbox 360 in 2005.

    • @SurprisePie
      @SurprisePie Před 3 lety +14

      Correct. The PS3 first launched on November 11th, 2006 in Japan and November 17th in North America, while the Wii first launched on November 19th in North America and December 2nd in Japan.

    • @kazuma_taichi
      @kazuma_taichi Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, I remembered this because they had their lineups while my brother and I were convincing my dad to take us to lineup for the Wii

    • @sapphireflair5845
      @sapphireflair5845 Před 3 lety

      Nerd

  • @astrobear4205
    @astrobear4205 Před 3 lety +61

    Thats what you get for not putting rhythm tweezers in rhythm heaven fever.

  • @caffienatedtactician
    @caffienatedtactician Před 4 lety +2257

    Wait, the Wii had backwards compatibility removed in later editions? Jesus. Glad I didnt replace my original

    • @joshuabaskin4458
      @joshuabaskin4458 Před 3 lety +155

      well, at least Hardware Compatibility, you can still use Nintendont to Play NGC Backups, even in the WiiU

    • @joythecat1950
      @joythecat1950 Před 3 lety +176

      I had one like that but i dropped it one to many times and Kirby Epic Yarn got stuck inside of it and my sister wanted to play Kirby on a different Wii so, with me crying cause it was the first Wii our family had gotten and I didnt care if it was stuck cause it had the backwards compatibility, he took a screw driver and literally broke the Wii and killed it but the game was unscathed and now she never plays the game and I dont like her for it

    • @laurinneff4304
      @laurinneff4304 Před 3 lety +22

      @@joshuabaskin4458 And on the Wii U even the Gamepad is supported even though it runs in Wii mode

    • @computerexpert5533
      @computerexpert5533 Před 3 lety +4

      me too

    • @Dezlite
      @Dezlite Před 3 lety +29

      @@joshuabaskin4458 yeah i hacked my wii mini and i can play gamecube games. Connected wii U controllers and they work.

  • @BillMcGirr
    @BillMcGirr Před 4 lety +1832

    When my kids were young they used to love to stick pennies in the slot...
    They defeated the Wii easily.

    • @darkoni95
      @darkoni95 Před 4 lety +66

      My brother son like put pizza in the PS4 lol no lie

    • @meowmeow10149
      @meowmeow10149 Před 4 lety +158

      @@darkoni95 ah yes brother son a classic make up ur mind liar

    • @isaaclorenzo3994
      @isaaclorenzo3994 Před 4 lety +17

      riun that shit was so funny 😂

    • @darkoni95
      @darkoni95 Před 4 lety +36

      @@meowmeow10149 it not I do have 3 brother they all 3 have girlfriend 1 has a wife and my 2nd brother have 2 son with special need his 1st son like put stuff in his PlayStation so he have to keep it away because his son love put shit in it

    • @DialthebarSoap
      @DialthebarSoap Před 4 lety +35

      @@darkoni95 lmao well I think I was more of a genius dumb compared to him when I was a kid. I printed out cover pictures of games and cut it to make it look like a disc. Feelsweirdman

  • @LyraBones
    @LyraBones Před 3 lety +24

    “this arm9 processor was nicknamed starlet by a security researcher nick named ‘sega’”
    Ironic

  • @artwithlavi206
    @artwithlavi206 Před 3 lety +27

    This was a great, informative video! It also made me chuckle. Imagine spending years coming up with an elegant security solution only for it to be undone by something you can find at the dollar store.

  • @BeanieGoth
    @BeanieGoth Před 4 lety +1233

    any conductive metal object: **exists**
    nintendo security: Bravo Six, going dark.

    • @laurinneff4304
      @laurinneff4304 Před 3 lety +21

      @Omgguy And the 3DS was vulnerable to a buffer overflow. Twice.

    • @SkywareEntertainments
      @SkywareEntertainments Před 3 lety +10

      Metal objects: *exist*
      Nintendo security: splish splash your opinion is trash
      (I know that doesn't make sense sorry)

    • @_TheMushroomMan
      @_TheMushroomMan Před 3 lety +13

      Nintendo: NO YOU CANT JUST BREAK OUR SECURITY WITH A SIMPLE CONDUCTIVE METAL OBJECT NOOOO!!!!!!!
      some random dude with a pair of tweezers: haha touc go brrrrr

  • @ouroboros8726
    @ouroboros8726 Před 4 lety +1530

    So THATs why they were called team twiizers.

    • @theblubus
      @theblubus Před 4 lety +82

      RIGHT! Blew my mind!
      I assumed it was just a generic hacker name.

    • @KingNikolai
      @KingNikolai Před 4 lety +8

      Yea that was my first thought 😂

    • @JorgetePanete
      @JorgetePanete Před 4 lety +3

      that's*

    • @H8nji
      @H8nji Před 4 lety +2

      Jorge C. M. Correct. Apostrophes are indeed important.

    • @jeffhardymattrey
      @jeffhardymattrey Před 4 lety +1

      TOP KEK xD

  • @abrahamromero.
    @abrahamromero. Před 3 lety +15

    I remember using Twilight Princess to get Homebrew! Wow, what a throwback.

  • @PrashantKhanolkarUSA
    @PrashantKhanolkarUSA Před 2 lety

    What a fantastic channel, I just stumbled upon it by CZcams recommendations, now binge watching all of your superb videos, I cannot believe such a channel exists. Trip down memory lane. Can't imagine how much effort went into making these videos. Superb work.

  • @soundlessbird9181
    @soundlessbird9181 Před 4 lety +2325

    My teacher when teaching us internet security, first word he said : " Easiest way to destroy computer is a baseball bat, not a bunch of code."

    • @linkthehero1234
      @linkthehero1234 Před 4 lety +101

      tHaTs NoT a WoRd!!!!!1!!!1

    • @Lisa-oj9oe
      @Lisa-oj9oe Před 4 lety +81

      and the easiest way to destroy a bunch of Blackberry Phones is a hammer. 😂

    • @mrfoxycracker4836
      @mrfoxycracker4836 Před 4 lety +77

      ah, so the opposite of a Nokia phone

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka Před 3 lety +36

      Most accessible? Sure. Most efficient? Not in hell.

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka Před 3 lety +62

      @PolySaken yeah, but a baseball bat, or an equivalent blunt force weapon like a hammer can be found just about anywhere. Hell, even if you don't have a weapon, you can still toss a PC around untill it breaks.

  • @marcan42
    @marcan42 Před 4 lety +512

    Corrections:
    3:03 - the hack did not require extracting any signing keys (those signing keys are held by Nintendo and not on the console). It just relied on the strncmp flaw that was later published. This was full Wii mode homebrew, but the ecosystem was too young (no developer tools) to just publish it at this point.
    4:10 - games are encrypted by a per-game encryption key and signed by a signing key. Per-game encryption keys are encrypted by a common key. Encryption and signing are different things. The signing key is held by Nintendo and nobody else has access to it. "License key" means nothing here; the key we were looking for is called the "common key", that would let us *decrypt* games and software, to look for flaws (even though it wouldn't let us create our own software).
    4:53 - that's a die shot of the whole GPU/SoC, not the ARM9 in particular. The ARM9 is not visible due to power routing. I have an annotated photo of the Hollywood that shows the ARM9 here: marcan.st/transf/hollywood_annotated.jpg
    4:58 - the master key used to decrypt game titles is not unique to each console. It is the same common key for all consoles. Unique per-console keys are used to encrypt the NAND flash, and to deliver decryption keys for downloadable games and content (which are tied to a specific console), not disc games. It doesn't make any sense to have "per-console" encryption keys because all consoles have to be able to decrypt all disc games.
    5:36 - Not sure what you mean by "everything is encrypted". IOS does not use memory encryption or anything like that. The Wii doesn't actually do a particularly good job of keeping things encrypted/signed all the way; for example, when you install stuff to NAND flash, it is stored encrypted by the per-console NAND flash storage encryption but the actual files are plaintext within that (decrypted at installation time) and the signature is also only checked at installation time.
    5:38 - IOS runs partially on internal 96K SRAM and partially on the external 64MB GDDR2, but it runs on a dedicated section of it (often called a "carve-out") that is not accessible to the Broadway. The size of the carve-out is a few megabytes and varies depending on the exact IOS revision that a game uses.
    8:11 - RSA, not "RSA1". More specifically it's RSA-2048.
    Finally, the order of events is kind of jumbled here. It goes like this:
    - First we found the tweezer trick to dump memory and IOS
    - Then we found the strncmp flaw that allowed fakesigning and booting homebrew from disc with a mod, but did not publish it because having to mod your console sucks. This was how that first demo happened.
    - The plan was to develop the Twilight Hack to allow people to run homebrew without needing any mods, and not really publish the fakesigning flaw until later since it could more easily be used for hacks to pirate games
    - The fakesigning flaw was eventually re-discovered and published soon after the first version of the Twilight Hack was released anyway
    I suggest talking to the security researchers who did all this stuff when you make videos like this. We don't bite and we can help you get things right :-)

    • @s1d3k1ckRO
      @s1d3k1ckRO Před 4 lety +45

      Wow this guy REALLY knows his shit!

    • @peterlee891
      @peterlee891 Před 4 lety +42

      I had hoped the video maker had done a decent research job; it seemed likely as what was said and seen looked good and viable. But I do prefer to hear the words straight from the original sources, so thank you for speaking up. Respect, and regards from a fellow geek.

    • @solomongainey838
      @solomongainey838 Před 4 lety +3

      What's a current way to install homebrew on a Wii? Everything I've looked up on Google seems a bit dated. Any advice would be well appreciated.

    • @GdThngUrPretty
      @GdThngUrPretty Před 4 lety +22

      @@solomongainey838 Hey there, not a geek. But. Nintendo stopped supporting the Wii via the internet as of 2013. That means no updates to anything (including security) since then. Feel free to find anything post-2013 and you should be good. Just make sure you do it right so you don't have to go find another Wii.

    • @nomadben
      @nomadben Před 4 lety +20

      Also, at 0:33 - The Wii was released the same year as the PS3, and one year after the Xbox 360, not one year after both.

  • @cheesewheel
    @cheesewheel Před 3 lety +129

    Man, big thanks to team twiizers. They allowed me and so many others to make the most out of our Wii's.

  • @gustavinus
    @gustavinus Před 3 lety +70

    The Wii is still my favorite modded videogame of all time. With a USB drive it does wonders with emulators and still keeps the Wii style "sensor" gameplay, which is still quite unique. The only downside is the max 480p render, but honestly? I think it is quite enough for what it is supposed to run, including all the emulators it can run. Thousands and thousands of games.

    • @symbiote1982pk
      @symbiote1982pk Před 2 lety +7

      The wii isnt a videogame.

    • @gustavinus
      @gustavinus Před 2 lety +20

      @@symbiote1982pk Nopes. It is an Air Fryer

    • @britishwordplay4335
      @britishwordplay4335 Před 2 lety

      Can it play ps2 n ps3 roms smoothly though

    • @AndreiAndrei-kj5mk
      @AndreiAndrei-kj5mk Před 2 lety +5

      @@britishwordplay4335 obviously not.

    • @alt.egoistic
      @alt.egoistic Před rokem

      As of what I’ve seen so far, the PSVITA may replace it, or at least come into #2.
      3DS would probably come into #3.

  • @GoldSrc_
    @GoldSrc_ Před 4 lety +738

    I love seeing companies spend millions on security just to be defeated by a couple of guys lol.
    Keep it up, your content is amazing.

    • @Kaos1989
      @Kaos1989 Před 4 lety +70

      Tons of money spent on security but defeated by a cheap pair of tweezers...

    • @thefrongier3406
      @thefrongier3406 Před 4 lety +8

      Hey gordon, when valve is gonna make half life 3?
      Ah sorry thats impossible

    • @Wourghk
      @Wourghk Před 4 lety +64

      Defeat in security is inevitable when it comes to consumer devices. The goal is to stall efforts for as long as possible.

    • @SomeRandomPiggo
      @SomeRandomPiggo Před 4 lety +1

      wheres half life 9

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc Před 4 lety +4

      there's like a million other things developers of hardware will be working on while these guys are doing this one specific crack at one system in their spare time

  • @InsanityPrevails
    @InsanityPrevails Před 4 lety +631

    It's so strange to see these consoles with such low specifications, like in the RAM, and how good some of the games looked!

    • @rikkisan1
      @rikkisan1 Před 4 lety +132

      I like to say it's not about what you have, it's how you use it that counts.

    • @TrueSkyl1n3
      @TrueSkyl1n3 Před 4 lety +115

      Insanity Prevails To be fair Wii games could only max out at 576i so technically it wasn’t even outputting in HD so it wasn’t too taxing on its hardware at the time.

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Před 4 lety +133

      Nintendo's strategy has usually been to focus on low-cost hardware. Parents would rather buy the $250 Wii than the $600 (at the time) PS3.

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 Před 4 lety +3

      back then was a lot

    • @jordanrodrigues1279
      @jordanrodrigues1279 Před 4 lety +83

      The paradox of PC specs vs consoles is that often that extra resources are absorbed by software that can't be optimized as well - simply because it needs to support a broader range of hardware and software configurations.
      System memory doesn't need to be as large because you don't need a bunch of Windows backwards compatibility layers loaded. This is even true with PCs as well. I'm happy with 8GB in 2019 because I'm using Debian instead of Windows. The software is built from source code and doesn't need to support 32-bit mode anything or multiple versions of the every .so (.dll equivalent). I'm not sure this explains 100% of the difference in memory use, but the installed size of the OS is far smaller.
      The Wii's memory (24MB + 64MB) is too small for video editing, but it's plenty large for game assets, especially since it was quite fast at the time.

  • @AutizmChan2005
    @AutizmChan2005 Před 3 lety +58

    One time when I was little I stuck a 3DS AR card into my wii and my mom had to call nintendo to tell us how to get it out

  • @tomb8430
    @tomb8430 Před 3 lety +6

    Yes, this is fascinating. The minds on these guys who do this work is just mind blowing.

  • @Michirin9801
    @Michirin9801 Před 4 lety +225

    0:30 The PS3 was also released in 2006, only a few days before the Wii, it was only the 360 that got a year headstart...

    • @lovelorn88nick
      @lovelorn88nick Před 4 lety +20

      I caught that right away lol.

    • @stevelsnow
      @stevelsnow Před 4 lety +10

      I was going to say the same thing. The PS3 came out on Friday November 17, 2006 while the Wii launched on Sunday November 19,2006. 😊 it’s all good though, Love the video and all of Modern Vintage Gamer’s content 🙂

    • @AgsmaJustAgsma
      @AgsmaJustAgsma Před 4 lety +19

      #MistakesWereMade

    • @ahmetseckinov8790
      @ahmetseckinov8790 Před 4 lety +11

      I bought the PS3 the day it came out, not to resell for a rediculous price but for my family who were rlin need of entertainment. Little did I know that a more family friendly console would come out 2 days later...
      But my family is the type of family that would play call of duty zombies together not Wii sports so lol

    • @4sake123
      @4sake123 Před 4 lety +4

      @@serch3ster Yeah, I closed my browser and shut down my computer after I heard that mistake, I even had to call my mom. This dude should be ashamed of himself.

  • @mini_disc
    @mini_disc Před 4 lety +2345

    Wii: Has OS named IOS
    Apple: Makes iOS
    Nintendo: Am I a joke to you?

    • @hansisbrucker813
      @hansisbrucker813 Před 4 lety +115

      Don't forget Cisco

    • @osco4311
      @osco4311 Před 4 lety +129

      @@hansisbrucker813 Cisco also owned the trademark for the term iPhone, which they ultimately licensed to Apple

    • @osco4311
      @osco4311 Před 4 lety +103

      @referral madness Apple tried license the name, but Cisco turned them down (several times). Apple used it anyway, and Cisco sued.
      The terms of the settlement weren't disclosed, but Cisco definitely had the power to get terms in their favor, especially since Apple had already released this product and launched the marketing campaigns.

    • @nikolayrybkin3265
      @nikolayrybkin3265 Před 4 lety +32

      @@osco4311 LOL, makes me wonder does iPhone really sound like a name anyone would desire to use for their product? Moreover desire it so much so they'd go into a legal battle for it. OK, I understand they had been producing iPods and wanted cosistency with names, but still.

    • @osco4311
      @osco4311 Před 4 lety +19

      @@nikolayrybkin3265 Cisco (through their Linksys brand) used it for their internet (VoIP) telephones (like Vonage).

  • @MrDrRock
    @MrDrRock Před 3 lety +50

    Hey man, this is a great video. I missed out on the modding scene when I was younger, and it's neat learning some history of this topic. Keep up the good work. :) First time watching your videos, and subscribed immediately.

    • @recoupxtra7270
      @recoupxtra7270 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm modding at 13... its kinda easy now tho.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 2 lety

      For the Wii and 3DS it's a good time to get started since everything it well established now and Nintendo doesn't give a hoot about either anymore.
      Eager to see the Switch reach the same point

  • @annsheldon6166
    @annsheldon6166 Před 3 lety +8

    Nintendo WII: **exists**
    A pair of tweezers: "Im about to end this mans whole career"

  • @qpol
    @qpol Před 4 lety +646

    2006: tweezers defeats wii security
    2021: finger nails defeats ps5 security
    it’s 2021 now and i’m waiting

  • @emukidid
    @emukidid Před 4 lety +927

    Long live team twiizlers

    • @TrolleyMC
      @TrolleyMC Před 4 lety +16

      Long live fail_0verflow

    • @MrV902
      @MrV902 Před 4 lety +2

      @@TrolleyMC See, I didn't know they were the same people. I learned something today.

    • @TrolleyMC
      @TrolleyMC Před 4 lety +2

      @@MrV902 same

    • @BrandonBeanland
      @BrandonBeanland Před 4 lety +3

      mmmmm, i like Twizzlers

    • @rollizle
      @rollizle Před 4 lety +2

      They're the same team though unfortunately Ben "Bushing" Byer, the lead member of the team, died a few years ago.

  • @whateveryah
    @whateveryah Před 3 lety +18

    Bannerbomb is also outdated, the Letterbomb replaced it and now there's something that could be done just via the network without the need of an SD.
    It's impressive how things turned out to be, and quite frankly homebrewing allowed playing several games from different generations without the need to be limited to what is on the Wii Shop Channel. Also, the region free was such a great feature to run any game, especially those exclusive to Japan.
    Man, I love this system most out of that generation, and the 360 too, but the PS3 was such a bummer.
    Thanks for the infos btw!
    Good video

  • @Indigo_Gaming
    @Indigo_Gaming Před 2 lety +5

    The biggest surprise in a rollercoaster of surprises here was that the Wii had a GPU!

  • @UItEnthusiast
    @UItEnthusiast Před 4 lety +511

    Nintendo, 2006: "Our latest console with motion controls!"
    Hackers: use tweezers to hack drm
    Hackers: cut motherboard into tiny pieces
    Nintendo: *screams of pain*

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 Před 4 lety +18

      Portable Wiis and their extremely cut-down boards are a thing of beauty imo, shoutouts to the BitBuilt community!

    • @J__C__
      @J__C__ Před 4 lety +8

      Why does everybody write this stupid shit? It's taking over for the stupid date spam in that fills every comment section.
      How about be original?

    • @shan4289
      @shan4289 Před 4 lety +8

      @@J__C__ shut up boomer

    • @lxxcidityy
      @lxxcidityy Před 4 lety +4

      J C Ok boomer

    • @UItEnthusiast
      @UItEnthusiast Před 4 lety +3

      @@J__C__ ok boomer

  • @jat4651
    @jat4651 Před 4 lety +372

    Next video:
    How a eye lash defeated the Wii U's security.

    • @darthvader8641
      @darthvader8641 Před 4 lety +1

      Nice

    • @Gellis12
      @Gellis12 Před 4 lety +6

      Was wii u security ever defeated? Last time I looked into it, people only managed to get homebrew running when you launched it into wii compatibility mode.

    • @jat4651
      @jat4651 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Gellis12 You do realize this post is sarcasm, right?

    • @EwanGamingnintendoclubcouk
      @EwanGamingnintendoclubcouk Před 4 lety +16

      Gellis12 Yes, the Wii U is fully hacked.

    • @akeminakajima449
      @akeminakajima449 Před 4 lety +1

      Stop: this memw

  • @ninsega0611
    @ninsega0611 Před 3 lety +2

    I don’t need sleep, I need answers! Also great video man, I’ve been part of the homebrew community for a while and I’ve always wondered how to Wii was hacked in the first place.

  • @ferdinandoph
    @ferdinandoph Před 3 lety +3

    This series needs a comeback

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX Před 4 lety +55

    I had no idea Twiizers renamed themselves failoverflow - I just thought it was a separate group. Good to hear the legends are still at work!

  • @brojoe44
    @brojoe44 Před 4 lety +54

    I remember when I first heard of homebrew, I pulled my wii out from 1 year of inactivity and played the hell out of emulation on it. Thanks Team Twiizers.

  • @98SE
    @98SE Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is my ~4th time watching this video in the last 3 years, I love binge watching how these consoles were hacked, I've watched the whole series but I still love re-watching haha! :)

  • @reperak2107
    @reperak2107 Před 4 lety +55

    Wii: What's your SHA hash?
    Disc:
    Wii: Okay you're good to go

  • @turle8645
    @turle8645 Před 4 lety +1154

    that moment when you realize that Nintendo could of made a shitload of money by suing apple for copying the name of the wiis operating system

    • @turle8645
      @turle8645 Před 4 lety +159

      @@needyouknow8932 I'd check where you're getting your information from because the Wii came out in 2006 which was a whole year before the iPhone even existed and the operating system wasn't even named IOS until iOS 4 which came out in 2010

    • @needyouknow8932
      @needyouknow8932 Před 4 lety +86

      @@turle8645 Thank you for alerting me that I was misinformed, I was not active in the console game until recently, and mixed the dates up between the WII U and original WII

    • @turle8645
      @turle8645 Před 4 lety +39

      @@needyouknow8932 you're welcome

    • @cosmicmemer1611
      @cosmicmemer1611 Před 4 lety +29

      Well I’m no expert or anything but the meaning of the acronym is probably different, if the Wii’s is even a acronym.

    • @Chick3nWing1339
      @Chick3nWing1339 Před 4 lety +6

      Jefferton Ahyeeoobee r/woooosh

  • @Rex-zm7xb
    @Rex-zm7xb Před 4 lety +360

    Nintendo: Let's see how you hack the console this time around.
    Hackers: Hold my tweezers!

    • @MrMediator24
      @MrMediator24 Před 4 lety +14

      Switch:
      Hackers: Hold my paperclip!

    • @mintybar
      @mintybar Před 4 lety

      Do you mean Controller? XD

    • @Elmerturnipseed
      @Elmerturnipseed Před 4 lety +7

      actually could you give the tweezers back I kinda need them to hack your console thanks

    • @Rex-zm7xb
      @Rex-zm7xb Před 4 lety

      @@Elmerturnipseed Lmao!

    • @noone6991
      @noone6991 Před 4 lety

      Rex815 they would need the tweezers to hack the console so why would they want someone to hold it

  • @andonuts233
    @andonuts233 Před 3 lety

    I rarely understand what you're talking about, but I am always fully engaged and impressed. Thank you.

  • @alfonsoortega5408
    @alfonsoortega5408 Před 3 lety +8

    The wii: tweezers
    The switch: a paper clip

  • @ShaunDreclin
    @ShaunDreclin Před 4 lety +378

    Imagine people wanting the freedom to run any software they choose on the hardware that they purchased. The nerve!

    • @herohamp2
      @herohamp2 Před 4 lety +43

      @apple

    • @mrbisshie
      @mrbisshie Před 4 lety +32

      Microsoft learned. They gave people homebrew. Xbone still remains unhacked! Gotta give Microsoft credit, where credit is due! It also helps that nearly all their "exclusives" are on PC, and can be pirated a lot easier there, lol.

    • @vorlonempire6954
      @vorlonempire6954 Před 4 lety +14

      PC Master Race has entered the chat.

    • @drink15
      @drink15 Před 4 lety +8

      Imagine only buying hardware that runs the software you want.

    • @myfellowsonicfans7131
      @myfellowsonicfans7131 Před 4 lety +1

      Cock Fucking Diarrhea Slurper that’s not really true, a lot of the time the hackers do have piracy in mind, there’s just a few hackers who are vocal anti-piracy whiners.

  • @gordonthickmanplays6048
    @gordonthickmanplays6048 Před 4 lety +316

    Tweezers: *H A C K E R M A N*

  • @TNight00
    @TNight00 Před rokem

    Wow this is an amazing video explaining all the history behind the homebrew channel and how they made it possible

  • @DM-dk7js
    @DM-dk7js Před 3 lety +55

    You’re like, a modding historian. At least that’s the quality of your production.

  • @lunaticluna9071
    @lunaticluna9071 Před 4 lety +46

    Ah, the wii. I love that son of a box. It was my childhood, after all.

  • @obsidianchao
    @obsidianchao Před 4 lety +8

    MVG, your "history of modding" videos are absolutely some of my favorites on CZcams. Nobody is documenting this history, especially not to this quality level. Thank you for your hard work!

    • @TheDigiPunX
      @TheDigiPunX Před 4 lety +1

      He was also heavily involved with porting existing emulators to the OG Xbox back in the day

  • @billydelacey
    @billydelacey Před rokem +2

    "Tweezers don't defeat security on the Nintendo Wii, PEOPLE defeat security on the Nintendo Wii."

  • @maximumnoise78
    @maximumnoise78 Před 2 lety

    Only found this channel a day ago. This stuff is amazing. And even better cause you are an aussie as well. Binge watching all the videos!

  • @jasonc3a
    @jasonc3a Před 4 lety +40

    Every time I see "mistakes were made" I instinctively click. Don't even check to see what console it's about. Love these.

  • @mrcool9090
    @mrcool9090 Před 4 lety +325

    Nintendo Systems: I fear no man, but that thing
    Random metal things:
    Nintendo Systems: That thing scares me

    • @sebastianrugina5609
      @sebastianrugina5609 Před 4 lety +16

      Heres a better format for that meme:
      -I fear no man...
      -But that thing..
      **metal objects**
      *-It scares me.*

    • @hellacia8151
      @hellacia8151 Před 4 lety +8

      Funny because metal objects are what are used to hack the switch. Go figure.

    • @laurinneff4304
      @laurinneff4304 Před 3 lety +5

      @@hellacia8151 That's the joke

    • @shibe-yeeyee-555
      @shibe-yeeyee-555 Před 3 lety

      @@hellacia8151 r/woosh

  • @WalrusWinking
    @WalrusWinking Před 3 lety +4

    I've never seen a Wii sitting on it's side before today.

  • @lesserz6310
    @lesserz6310 Před 3 lety +1

    When I decided to install homebrew on the Wii (after I bought a WiiU...why not, it was gonna become the more played with system). I hacked mine through memory card. But I saw a Twilight hack, but heard it was obsolete. Didn't look more into it. Thanks for giving some history on it.

  • @hroland
    @hroland Před 4 lety +14

    Im addicted to this channel 😍 When I was little I used to LOVE to tinker around with homebrew on my Wii and DSi, and now being a software engineer, I finally understand what was happening behind the scenes! Thank you so much for these vids!!

  • @thevirtualnomad7269
    @thevirtualnomad7269 Před 4 lety +52

    Who would win?
    A sophisticated piece of kit that had millions of dollars put towards its development
    -or-
    A pair a tweezers purchased for $.50 at Walmart

  • @ebbonemint
    @ebbonemint Před 3 lety

    So far tonight on my YT binging
    I’ve learned how dual mass flywheels work, Which led me to 3 webpage articles and 2 forums on how firing order degrees of various 4 stroke engine layouts and their effect on power delivery, and now I’m here.

  • @Elieesia
    @Elieesia Před 3 lety

    This is why I subscribed. Thanks for uploading!

  • @curiousottman
    @curiousottman Před 4 lety +8

    I really enjoy how much more technical this channel is than most retro channels.

  • @JasonFloydProductions
    @JasonFloydProductions Před 4 lety +141

    Imagine using toothbrush to defeat the Switch security?

  • @barfgameplay
    @barfgameplay Před 3 lety +4

    3:28 OMG me and my friends played TimeSplitters: Future Perfect soooo many times, probably one of my fondest memories of the GameCube!

  • @justbecause3187
    @justbecause3187 Před 2 lety +2

    Dear Macgyver, enclosed is a paper clip, a rubber band and a drinking straw, please hack my Wii.

  • @danielmarequeiglesias5015
    @danielmarequeiglesias5015 Před 4 lety +14

    I've been watching some of this "How security was defeated" videos you made on multiple consoles but couldn't find one about 3DS, if you could make that video it would be awesome!

  • @Zuudo
    @Zuudo Před 4 lety +19

    The Team Twiizers name makes so much sense now

  • @HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA
    @HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for this video and the references.

  • @evillaughter3383
    @evillaughter3383 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic work of engineering to find and exploit design flaws. Hat's off to Team Tweezers!

  • @shazmosushi
    @shazmosushi Před 4 lety +13

    RIP Ben "bushing" Byer

  • @TrolleyMC
    @TrolleyMC Před 4 lety +73

    Man, I wish you went over nintendos history on patching, like how they caused the infamous Error 003 brick on hacked wiis and how they completely patched out bootmii on boot2. Its a really interesting story cause most of the bricks that wiis can get are Nintendos fault.

    • @evmanbutts
      @evmanbutts Před 4 lety +2

      I had the Error 003 brick my first wii. Ahh good times.

    • @TrolleyMC
      @TrolleyMC Před 4 lety

      @@evmanbutts I love debricking 003 Wiis.

    • @WiretheAlligator
      @WiretheAlligator Před 4 lety +7

      >load illicit code
      >code gets patched and locks your illicit wifi
      >somehow Nintendo's fault
      Nani?

    • @SittingDuc
      @SittingDuc Před 4 lety +15

      @@WiretheAlligator The Homebrew group discovered the routines the Nintendo OS/Libraries offered to write to the flash were inaccurate and would fail a percentage of the time. The Homebrew group added a wrapper around the Nintendo code, to ensure the write completed correctly, to ensure they would not brick the console.
      Nintendo released an OS "Update" to try to beat the Homebrew group. Nintendo did not make the flash writing reliable. ANY Wii running the Nintendo "Update", even a console that had no homebrew on it, had a chance to brick because of Nintendo's bad code.
      A few weeks later, the Homebrew group released tools to unbrick some/most consoles bricked by Nintendo.

  • @Desperado070
    @Desperado070 Před rokem +4

    Imagine a child awaiting the next gen consoles and then getting a Nintendo Wii...
    I think there is where the PTSD started.

  • @NeedForSpeed.2004
    @NeedForSpeed.2004 Před 4 lety +8

    I fear no man
    But that thing:
    **tweezers**
    It scares me

  • @blasserbube
    @blasserbube Před 4 lety +186

    What consoles are afraid of:
    "normal" consoles: intense hacking and hardware modding
    Wii: " well I'm afraid of no- "
    *Pair of tweezrs enters room*
    Wii: *Confused screaming*

  • @awsumguy
    @awsumguy Před 4 lety +149

    who would win:
    giant Japanese company with millions of dollars of security
    or
    one pinchy boi

  • @roberthorchar3445
    @roberthorchar3445 Před 3 lety

    I'm so glad I found this channel! Great content! I'm hoping you get the gold CZcams button soon!!

  • @dancrawford6029
    @dancrawford6029 Před rokem

    Thanks to these guys for starting the ball rolling on enabling me to have an amazing modded Wii with all of my favourite GameCube and Wii games conveniently on an SSD that I can load them from.

  • @UndeadFrankie
    @UndeadFrankie Před 4 lety +39

    2:53 Accurately sums up my experience with the Wii

  • @Gunneramma
    @Gunneramma Před 4 lety +29

    Wii : no man can stop me
    Tweezers : I am no man

  • @chandlercollins913
    @chandlercollins913 Před 2 lety

    Still got a wii with the home brew channel, loved modding on bo1 and mw3 back in the day

  • @-nomi.-
    @-nomi.- Před rokem +1

    twilight hack was the first exploit i ran on a console and it always brings back fond memories of the excitement of having all these new capabilities from the same hardware for the first time

  • @m0kkori
    @m0kkori Před 4 lety +125

    Next Video: "How a magnet defeated the Nintendo 3DS security"

    • @dingus3161
      @dingus3161 Před 4 lety +5

      Not just the security, lol

    • @drd5455
      @drd5455 Před 4 lety +1

      What? Haha

    • @Arutemu64
      @Arutemu64 Před 4 lety +15

      @@drd5455 you can use a magnet to enter flash mode on 3DS and then use prepared DS flash card to install a custom firmware.

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason Před 4 lety +2

      Damn.......... Seriously?!

    • @Agent-517
      @Agent-517 Před 4 lety +4

      @@kenrickeason yeah, a magnet was an old cracking method

  • @mbe102
    @mbe102 Před 4 lety +6

    I love all your videos man, but this series in particular is so damn interesting!

  • @IAmNotVerified
    @IAmNotVerified Před rokem

    Super entertaining, great job!

  • @davidriosg
    @davidriosg Před 3 lety

    Very cool music track, thanks for making it!

  • @grayfox1471
    @grayfox1471 Před 4 lety +6

    Just one thing to correct with the introduction of this video. The Playstation 3 came out only a few days before the Wii, not a year. Interesting video

  • @JAWS1376
    @JAWS1376 Před 4 lety +14

    This was my favorite time in gaming. I wonder if age has something to do with it. Oh well love the days of the Wii, 360, and PS3. I still remember the night I bought my first Wii. They were so hard to find in the beginning.

    • @BWBDCan
      @BWBDCan Před 4 lety +1

      My name called her credit company and got me approved to used it. friend had a job and told me when and how many they're have we both stood in line for 8 hrs.and agreed I played more and cared more on the 360,PS2,Wii generation.

    • @nothingnew765
      @nothingnew765 Před 10 měsíci

      I wasn't the biggest fan of this generation. Xbox 360 had the RROD issues, PS3 had YLOD and was super expensive/hard to find, and the Wii was doing its own thing.
      It wasn't until later on in the generation that things got way better.

  • @nikel1040
    @nikel1040 Před 4 lety +10

    Me watching this because it is in my recommended: "Hmmm, I wonder what homebrew is?"

    • @lolplayfelix-_-2713
      @lolplayfelix-_-2713 Před 3 lety

      isnt apple ios just dumbed down debian?

    • @isaacconn853
      @isaacconn853 Před 3 lety

      @@lolplayfelix-_-2713 its based on BSD, specifically an inhouse fork (?) called darwin

  • @patrickspapens5497
    @patrickspapens5497 Před 2 lety

    I installed the twilight hack myself back in the day, but never knew how it worked exactly. Now i do. Thanks for the video