I see lots of people in the comments claiming that the current US are “pretty good”. Time for a reality check. Let’s compare the US football development, the talent pool, with that of Scandinavia. Scandinavia has a combined population of about 20 million people, compared to the US population of 341 million. Scandinavia is not a footballing stronghold. Together, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have ONE European Champions title (Denmark in ‘92). The quality of the national leagues are somewhere between average and poor (ranked 14th, 15th, and 23rd in Europe). Here are the number of players from each region currently ranked among the top 500 highest valued footballers according to Transfermarkt (April 2024): Scandinavia (🇸🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴) 1. Haaland (2) 2. Ødegaard (16) 3. Isak (43) 4. Højlund (51) 5. Kulusevski (83) 6. Gyökeres (86) 7. Christensen (181) 8. Andersen (230) 9. Hjulmand (265) 10. Larsson (299) 11. Bobb (336) 12. Lindstrøm (353) 13. Elanga (421) 14. Billing (439) 15. Strand Larsen (478) 16. Wind (486) 17. Berge (497) USA 🇺🇸 1. Pulisic (245) 2. Balogun (260) 3. McKennie (380) 4. Dest (433) 5. Reyna (472) 6. Robinson (492) The US population is 17x larger, but Scandinavia have eight players ranked higher than the highest rated American. Not a single American breaks into top 200. Scandinavia have almost 3x more players on the list in total. If the US produced as many top 500 players per capita as Scandinavia (which, again, is an average region by European standards) they would have 289 players on the list. They have six. Out of these six, four grew up in Europe, and all six played in European academies before making their senior debuts. Not a single one made their debut in the MLS. The comparison could be made more extreme by comparing the US to the Benelux countries, Portugal, Croatia, or even Japan or Korea. US football education is frankly terrible. There simply isn’t any production of talent to talk of, because the local know how isn’t there (much like India and China). All that said, I’m rooting for US soccer. I like to see the sport gain ground. But I don’t think hubris will do Americans any favors. I clearheaded view of the present is a much better starting ground.
I see some Americans saying they now have the players, but I think they don't realize every country has them. The country that wins a World Cup is that one who has a generation that is *special.* It takes a lot more than just having a competitive team. That being said, I think the US has had competitive teams before. The Landon Donovan generation was a nice team. They've never sucked, they were just average.
Here's a thought-- while the US's population is what it is, why should that mean that the US's interest and participation in futbol should be much larger than Scandinavia? The US may have a population of, say, 40 million right now who like the sport, will watch on TV, may actually go to the stadium, and that should be good enough, as it's still a large figure compared to some countries, and on a par with many others. For it to supplant the NFL is unrealistic. It may eventually reach MLB level of interest. The problem is mostly the crowded US sports landscape. Look, most Americans don't watch NHL or NASCAR, and those two seem to be holding their own in their own niches. MLS is certainly doing that now.
@@guyfaux3978 That's true. The US will probably never reach European levels of interest. However, 40-50 mil is probably enough. If you have that amount of people interested in a sport, there's a big enough pool of kids to be internationally competitive (heck, Croatia is less than 4 million people). That said, population and economic muscles are to be seen as necessary but not sufficient conditions. India, China, Saudi Arabia etc also have people and money. What they lack is a well-developed system for coaching young players (easy access to good training conditions). One thing the US has going for it is that it could probably incorporate "soccer" into its system of school sports, but they would probably need to hire international coaches to begin with since there's not enough local know-how to fill the coaching positions with quality. But let's say the US started approaching Argentinian and Brazilian coaches to put in their high schools and universities, while the MLS clubs developed academies or a minor league, and local municipalities built pitches across the suburbs and inner cities. Then the US would probably be a powerhouse within 20 years.
I agree with guyfaux above. For one we have had the best womens team the last few decades but boys in America generally don't care about the sport. If you look at participation in high school sports soccer is behind our football, baseball, track, and basketball. Whereas for girls soccer is right behind volleyball at the top. Guys would generally rather go play basketball or football at a tiny college than go pro at soccer. Another way to put it is Scandanavia has 140X the population of Somoa but Samoa is better at rugby. What gives? Well you just don't value the sport like they do. As with us and soccer. And by our standard our current team is 'pretty good'. Which is a mild praise and not any kind of hubris. Compared to 10-20 years ago we have more well known players in Europe, we beat Mexico regularly, and not getting out of a WC group stage would be a disappointment.
@@justinlevy274 I agree with everything you said. My points were that (1) the US may be pretty good compared to where they've been, but they're terrible when you control for population and financial resources. In other words, they have A LOT more potential. And (2), this underperformance relative to the potential is due to a lack of interest, tradition, and know-how (as you say, the same reasons Samoa is better than Norway when it comes to rugby). For the women, it should be noted that Europe unfortunately didn't care about the female side of the sport until very recently. The US was basically the only one putting money and effort into it. Now, when the Europeans have started to care, other nations (with much smaller populations) are quickly overtaking the US women's team. And of course, it's the traditional powerhouses (France, England, Spain) that are leading, because they already have the know-how and infrastructure in place.
@moody1288 actually Figo DIDN'T get the pass ppl we're ready to murder him. R9 was a different story but Figo was just plane betrayal. He even lifted the ballon d'or in Bernabeu the ballon d'or he won because of his performance playing for Barcelona and than there's also the Political war between the catalonia and Spain.
@@Okthen-jc2yi Germany, Brazil, Italy, Uruguay, France, Argentina, Netherlands, and Spain all clear. Saying England is football elite is like saying Chile is, just because of a good talent crop every 50 years. England may be playing ok football atm, but they don't have the pedigree of the true giants
@@Okthen-jc2yi do some research as to HOW they won in 66. Proof of that is they have never won anything else, ever. Also noone takes the FIFA ranking seriously anymore, after having Belgium 1st for YEARS despite having won jack
The United States has been a power in women's soccer for two reasons: 1º The United States has taken women's football seriously. 2nd The rest of the world has not taken women's football seriously. Recently the second point has been diluted since Europe is finally promoting women's football, which is why this year Spain has emerged as world champion with a golden generation. I dare say that in the future it will be very difficult for the United States to win a World Cup again because now Europe has become serious about women's football.
They won't have it easy in the future, but USA will still be a top contender, tho. They do have a very strong women's league and the formation channels are solid.
Women's football in the UK only became fully professional in the last 20 years. That's why we've lagged behind so much, and England have only just started to achieve success in Euros and World Cups.
It's been changing slowly but it feels It's changing a whole lot faster now. The interest in American football is certainly lessening and soccer is growing a whole lot. In a lot of the US, especially with all the large demographic changes, it's only a matter of time before soccer becomes the dominant culture. The men's team will become a powerhouse eventually I'm sure of it. Who knows, with the next copa America and world cup on home soil, maybe we could see a huge upset run and witness something very special, something that will go much farther in pushing the sport than any amount of players the mls could bring in.
With the internet and games that can be streamed world wide, the entire world sports landscape is changing. In the next 10-20 years NFL will be popular, maybe the second most popular sport, and soccer will be officially consider one of the main sports here. Both sports should comfortably be the 3rd most popular in each side of the pond. For starters, both sports appeal or work better for different types of athletes. 300 lb dudes are not going to be running for 2 hours straight, but there is a place for them in american football, and vice-versa.
@@michaelpeli2429 No, American football won't gain that much popularity...rugby is already very popular in many countries. I don't see American football taking it over.
The US isn't even bad at football, just middling. I'd wager that within the next 6-8 years the US will be a solid contender on the world stage. You guys are at least the best in North America.
That isn't saying that much...US has a lot more people than my country, Canada, we have a hard time beating the US. It was awesome upsetting the US on route to the 2022 World Cup. Mexico is trending downward right now. The US does have a lot more immigrants that play and the game is growing exponentially in some areas.
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC You and Luke are doing good things, keep it up and keep helping to change our fellow Americans’ minds about football. We’ve got a World Cup to show out at, and the lads need our support! 🇺🇸
You guys aren't elite, but you don't totally suck, im half-English, half-Indian, I was born in England so I mainly follow England at international level, though in Asian tournaments I will support India, I'll be frank the thing with India is in football we suck, most Indian kids go to play cricket (which India is actually good at) the US have come an extremely long way since the early 90's, its just a sport that isn't traditionally part of US culture, you say about family, it was my Grandad that got me into football, young people in the US seem more receptive to our football these days, in the future, maybe the US will have that, maybe not to the same degree (in the UK we're literally marinated in football culture from a very young age, e.g I was 4 when I started getting into it)
Corey you’re doing an amazing just. We need you to help other influencers to spread the word about soccer. Need to get all the basketball and football channels on board. It’s a group effort.
Please be the real Haaland 🙏🏼 lol Me and Luke are working hard! We’re putting together videos now that are more informative than simply reaction videos. Looking forward to pushing the sport here in the states!
@@CoreyMcKinneyFCu guys need like do a zoom with alot of Kids and make a debate "messi vs ronaldo" but seriously and make a video like this debates, u guys gona blow up, focus in the Kids audience
The truth is our National team/Players do not suck. Our talent level has never been higher. But when it comes to the national team coach/MLS/USSF, US Soccer as a whole does indeed suck. We don't even promote or market Soccer anymore.. I'm curious about how many people outside the sport even know there is a huge Soccer tournament in the States just a couple months away.
truth is MLS salary cap is holding the league back...the owners are saying "not yet"... but once it is raised (as demanded by Apple Streaming), MLS will be the best league in the world because of the money the owners WILL be making by paying for the world's best players these huge NBA/NFL salaries...and the U.S. i do suspect has the best atheletes on earth 🌎...just waiting for a spark...
Another problem is in America with soccer is its a rich sport. They always have pay to play. There are no programs for kids to play soccer for free like football and basketball. If you haven't noticed but most areas that win state titles in highschool soccer are mostly from rich suburb areas. They need to figure how to incorporate soccer in lower privileged neighborhoods to get talent from everywhere.
@@Prodigal971 yep you'll never find the best players studying in schools you'll find them on the streets playing concrete football as we call it back home.
@ruiz1871 yes I do agree with that but those players are coming from already established clubs that you pay for. They are not going through neighborhoods that don't have any club teams already.
The problem with simply throwing money at the sport is that this will actively hurt your national team. The best way to get a strong league is to buy strong players....which will be foreign players one and all until you guys fix your youth development. And if you always import your top players, you disincentivize young people to choose that sport as a career. This means you never get homegrown talent in large enough numbers to matter on the international stage. After a certain point, money is not a help, it's a hindrance when it comes to the national team. It stifles homegrown player development because there's no space for them in their own top league. This is one reason the richest league in the world - the English premier league - disappoints at the World Cup again and again and again.
US compared to what we were when this video dropped is way better. MLS Next Pro was created. More MLS teams are creating academies with schools as well. USL is constantly growing and is the backbone of US soccer rn with 500 youth clubs across the country. I mean there are Multiple under 16 year olds who are signing contracts with Big Premier league clubs. As a whole we're definitely better than when the video dropped. Now can we be a top 10 team? are we great or just decent at soccer? Considering one of our best starters Dest is out for the year I'd say Copa America will be our true test to find that out. But I wouldn't say we suck as of right now. There's just huge expectations we a s country have for the team which is valid, but I'll still stick by them.
There’s never been a team that have won the World Cup that didn’t have kids playing unorganized football at parks or in the streets. These were and were not in some cases the training ground for elite players. What it demonstrates is that football was a part of the culture.
22:10 "make it as much as a business as possible" you hit the nail on the head 🤣 that's essentially what mls LLC is and they wanna kill local community soccer
Learning to play football (soccer) is done before you reach your teens. If you wait until you are 15 or 16 it becomes much harder to become someone like Messi or any other top player. So, until the US starts teaching kids to play from an early age and pick out the natural players for a more professional training the quality of players you get will remain second rate. The US also needs a few more levels of leagues besides the MLS for those young talents to become better and advance in a natural way. The MLS also needs to introduce relegation. The lack of incentive to avoid ending at the bottom is only good for the team owners. But since they own shares in the MLS, not in the individual teams, I don't see why they could not kick out bad teams and introduce new ones to replace them - it would not affect their investments.
America plays more sports than other countries.Your a great young football you going to the NFL or MLS?You going to play soccer in college or play football in college?college football pays better
Great content. You should come to my country, Argentina, and see it with your own eyes. I can garantee you that a weekend here would turn the biggest red neck anti soccer into the most loyal football fan
The trends are showing the rapid rise in infrastructure, coaching and training, player development and talent development in the usa. I hear your worries but juwt watch as the precipice hits in 5-8 years time and USMNT start to look about as strong as the average Euros ans WC quarterfinal reaching team. Then watch in another 5 years time after that how strong the USMNT will be... Almost ridiculous and dreamlike it will seem
all that will do is create the massive imbalance you see in European soccer where only 4 or 5 teams (sometimes less) ever have the chance of winning the title.
MLB has had one team relocate since 2005.nba has 3 since 2001.NFL has 3 since 2016,nhl has 2 since 2011.it doesn’t happen as much as people like to think it does.
soccer in the U.S will only start to flourish "when" the people here as a whole start to love it...the U.S. has always had the best atheletes in any field when there is a huge interest by the people..market, market, market the robust players (we love celebrity status) and make upcoming atheletes know the amount of money, especially the money that can be made (20+ million each year) ..then you will attract our best atheletes to dominate the sport...if the owners of MLS teams paid 10+ million to at least 8 to 9 of the players on each squad, how do you think MLS teams would fair?...
It was viewed as a game for women and little kids who couldn’t play football.The sport was seen as a joke here for a long time.As much as it was mocked I doubt most knew where it was invented
So ...let me see if i can get this straight in my head Dana White ....a man with no talent, and a history of speaking controversial opinions simply to be "edgy", and a even bigger history of making grand ploclaimations that and then going back on them (i still remember him saying Kimbo Slice would never fight in UFC, so of course he did) thinks footballers have no talent You might as well tell me that the president of Botswana has an opinion on how i wear my socks ...i would take it more seriously 😂
USA Rugby's strategic development begins in 2024, with the goal of improving the American market and raising the competitiveness of the American national team, with the time to fulfill the goals being the World Cup in the USA in 2031. USA Test Matches in 2024 July 5 - USA - Romania : State of Illinois July 12 - USA - Scotland : Washington July 19 - New Zealand - Fiji : San Diego Pacific Cup 2024 August 31 - USA - Canada : Carson California September 6 - Japan - USA : Kumagaya Final Series September 14-21: Japan The new format of the Pacific Cup will provide one home game for the Yankees each year, in addition, the final series will alternate between the USA and Japan, so looking at the final series that will be in the USA will be in 2025, 2027 and 2029, 2031 is world cup and the possibility of the Pacific Cup being cancelled, these finals series will provide five more games each for American fans, and regular games against Canada, Japan and a match or two with someone from Fiji, Samoa and Tonga will ensure a permanent rise in the level of American rugby players
US only has 400 million less people.US is only 1 million less square miles.Its not way bigger or have way more people.Also the US is one country,europe is 50 countries I hope you know that
I agree when he said that the reason why football didn't take off in the US in the beginning was because there was no grassroots level start for the sport in the States, like in other countries. Football was, is, and forever will be a sport that is eternally linked to the community, compared to most US sports that are mostly 'franchises' and just profit-minded. Also, that mentality of Americans only interested in the sport as long as 'they win all the time' is an extremely poor mentality. The reason why Europe and South America are very good at the sport is because it took them HUNDREDS of years to actually play and improve at the sport to be at the level where they are now, not something that lasts only 30 years. You have to slowly play the sport, suffer, and slowly improve to truly become 'world-class'. Also, 'nationalism' is cancerous, much worst than 'patriotism'.
I watch videos of Americans talking about NFL, football, and they always end up focusing on when money moves. Americans have not yet understood that in the NFL they are supporting capitalist companies, since their purpose is to generate money. In Europe, most clubs are going to losses because here the important thing is not money, but the pride of your club, your fans and your city. Your club in Europe or Latin America is not a company, it is something that is part of your life, it defines you as a person.
@@Mumujalegoyou're 100% right. My local club is on the verge of being promoted to the top league. It is not some company I could support. It is the club I played for and was a member of in my childhood. Completely different emotional connection.
Ah, that's why Madrid is so successful because of their passion and frugal investments they've made. Any fan wants their team to spend as much money as possible to when. It's just in the NFL the lowest paid team is still spending 90% of the highest paid team. So, the winner really weeds out by preparation, talent, skill, coaching, and as always a little bit of luck.
Untill people in the us understand it's not just a game it's religion it's starts when you're young it's your team and you till death football for us is a way of living untill you understand that you'll never know what why we love it so much
Also, for a long time and even now, soccer has been viewed as an immigrant sport. That's largely because most immigrant parents have no familiarity with American sports, minus a few exceptions. Examples like Mexico , the DR, PR, Venezuela, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan (for baseball); Lithuania and most of Western Europe (for basketball) and Finland, Russia, Sweden, Austria, Switzerland and Czechia (for hockey). This also coincides that most registered soccer players in pee-wee soccer being there because their moms don't want them to get CTE playing football. Also, most registered players in the higher levels of soccer are either children or grandchildren of immigrants since they have closer ties to the sport compared to some Americans from families who have been here since the 17th century (Mayflower/Jamestown families).
I think a top 10 league is more realistically in range. The top 5 europe leagues will still matter, but the smaller country leagues are already being hurt as the larger ones suck up more and more of the money.
The more younger people speak the dumber they sound. Most of this shit is a website away. Amazingly most people have an idiot proof phone to keep you informed!
That was pretty funny. Talk about misinterpretation. Thinking American football is more manly, wow, in a sport where guys wear body armor to play. I know the excuse, size of players, and I counter with rugby, same size and only shin pads. Americans are tough? Only US citizens believe that. If you had been playing male football and not just female the men's team would be a serious threat? I see why you think that. There are two reasons why that is not right. The USWNT plays against women's teams from other nations, but women's football is not well supported in most countries, as no one wants to watch it. So the USWNT has had an advantage in having a system supported by your colleges, which is a system that doesn't exist elsewhere. That said they were knocked out of the most recent Women's World Cup. Secondly the way MLS is set up is wrong. You use the franchise system which means almost all games are meaningless. There are games for top three or four teams which have meaning, but not too much of it, because winning the league means financial rewards, it doesn't lead to more meaningful competition as it does elsewhere in the world. It just means a bit more prize money. Finish last 20 years in a row and what happens? Nothing, except less prize money. Contrast this with elsewhere where winning or being near the top of your league leads to competitions next season with winners of other competitions in your region (usually continent). This leads to large financial prizes, plus gains of international reputation and respect Losing means being relegated to a lower division where you will stay until you can win promotion,. This is why the standard of play in the MLS is so low. Don't think it's low? Look at Messi, a goal scoring God in MLS but he couldn't do that anywhere else. He is a great player, but in a top level league in Europe he doesn't score that number of goals, because people have reason to prevent him also his age is becoming a factor. Players in other countries are always playing for their personal career, as it's easy with a perceived wrong attitude to become someone that none of the top teams want to gamble on, which affects the career of that player. Watch an MLS match and in most of them the defenders jog back towards their own goal when the striker has gone past them. You hardly ever see the desperate challenges you see in other countries and players rarely slide in to try to win the ball. As long as MLS is what you have you will lag behind other countries. It keeps you mainly relying on players who play abroad as candidates for your men's national team. As for American football being a great sport that's pretty funny. It is the slowest sport in the world. You may think otherwise but it's an 80 minute game that takes 4 hours to play. That's slow. Also you play for 12 seconds at a time, and time out when you have a problem. Just deal with it. No sports outside the US do that, and for good reason. The biggest problem with American sport is it's all closed off, and except for the Olympics and the likes, the USA doesn't play against anyone but yourselves. I know there is the odd Canadian team in some of your sports, but that is only because they are a huge country with a small population and no other neighbours apart from Greenland. Incidentally when the World Cup was played in the states it nearly wasn't. When the USA won the bid for the world cup they told FIFA (the world governing body of the sport) that they needed to change it to four quarters for tv advertising. FIFA said if that was how it had to be then they would take the tournament elsewhere, and the rules remained unchanged. Incidentally I am a Scot living i9n the USA now (American wife) and I bemoan the lack of watchable football here. Incidentally my team in Scotland has an American player . When he arrived he was from American college football and he was hopeless but had natural talent. Two years later he is becoming a very good player, quite transformed from the slow, unfit player he was when he arrived. I think he may play for the USA at some point he really is that good.
I'll take the franchise system any day. all pro/rel does is create a system where the rich only get richer and the same 4 or so teams are always on top and the rest of the teams are just happy to be there. you mention being from Scotland, how competitive is the Scottish league? oh, 2 teams have won almost every championship. but thats a small leagues so lets look at the English league, 7 winners since 1992. the NFL has had 17 different winners in that time.
@@nickb2049 Well it's not like you have a choice. As for the NFL, like all your sports you only play yourselves. Guess you will always just be poor at football.
It's because we won the war. You have to lose a war or be losing and have your allies bail you out to develop the mentality that somehow a draw has value. Getting points for not winning is like writing a cheque to Poland in '39 knowing you can never cover it but expecting others to do it for you. It's defeatist and reeks of moral failure.
Utter fucking horse shit. The reason you have no ability to value a draw is because your so-called sport has no true jepardy. Nothing matters in american sport. There are no consequences, you do not have relegation or promotion. Why? because all you understand is money. The backers wont risk their investment. So to try and make it entertaining you need a million points per game, cheerleaders and all the other showbiz crap. The actual game is just a sales medium. Typical american take on things though, walk around with your head up your arse and then lecture the world on something they understand and you do not. Fucking retard.
I see lots of people in the comments claiming that the current US are “pretty good”.
Time for a reality check. Let’s compare the US football development, the talent pool, with that of Scandinavia. Scandinavia has a combined population of about 20 million people, compared to the US population of 341 million. Scandinavia is not a footballing stronghold. Together, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have ONE European Champions title (Denmark in ‘92). The quality of the national leagues are somewhere between average and poor (ranked 14th, 15th, and 23rd in Europe).
Here are the number of players from each region currently ranked among the top 500 highest valued footballers according to Transfermarkt (April 2024):
Scandinavia (🇸🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴)
1. Haaland (2)
2. Ødegaard (16)
3. Isak (43)
4. Højlund (51)
5. Kulusevski (83)
6. Gyökeres (86)
7. Christensen (181)
8. Andersen (230)
9. Hjulmand (265)
10. Larsson (299)
11. Bobb (336)
12. Lindstrøm (353)
13. Elanga (421)
14. Billing (439)
15. Strand Larsen (478)
16. Wind (486)
17. Berge (497)
USA 🇺🇸
1. Pulisic (245)
2. Balogun (260)
3. McKennie (380)
4. Dest (433)
5. Reyna (472)
6. Robinson (492)
The US population is 17x larger, but Scandinavia have eight players ranked higher than the highest rated American. Not a single American breaks into top 200.
Scandinavia have almost 3x more players on the list in total. If the US produced as many top 500 players per capita as Scandinavia (which, again, is an average region by European standards) they would have 289 players on the list. They have six. Out of these six, four grew up in Europe, and all six played in European academies before making their senior debuts. Not a single one made their debut in the MLS.
The comparison could be made more extreme by comparing the US to the Benelux countries, Portugal, Croatia, or even Japan or Korea.
US football education is frankly terrible. There simply isn’t any production of talent to talk of, because the local know how isn’t there (much like India and China).
All that said, I’m rooting for US soccer. I like to see the sport gain ground. But I don’t think hubris will do Americans any favors. I clearheaded view of the present is a much better starting ground.
I see some Americans saying they now have the players, but I think they don't realize every country has them. The country that wins a World Cup is that one who has a generation that is *special.* It takes a lot more than just having a competitive team.
That being said, I think the US has had competitive teams before. The Landon Donovan generation was a nice team. They've never sucked, they were just average.
Here's a thought-- while the US's population is what it is, why should that mean that the US's interest and participation in futbol should be much larger than Scandinavia? The US may have a population of, say, 40 million right now who like the sport, will watch on TV, may actually go to the stadium, and that should be good enough, as it's still a large figure compared to some countries, and on a par with many others. For it to supplant the NFL is unrealistic. It may eventually reach MLB level of interest. The problem is mostly the crowded US sports landscape. Look, most Americans don't watch NHL or NASCAR, and those two seem to be holding their own in their own niches. MLS is certainly doing that now.
@@guyfaux3978 That's true. The US will probably never reach European levels of interest. However, 40-50 mil is probably enough. If you have that amount of people interested in a sport, there's a big enough pool of kids to be internationally competitive (heck, Croatia is less than 4 million people). That said, population and economic muscles are to be seen as necessary but not sufficient conditions. India, China, Saudi Arabia etc also have people and money. What they lack is a well-developed system for coaching young players (easy access to good training conditions). One thing the US has going for it is that it could probably incorporate "soccer" into its system of school sports, but they would probably need to hire international coaches to begin with since there's not enough local know-how to fill the coaching positions with quality. But let's say the US started approaching Argentinian and Brazilian coaches to put in their high schools and universities, while the MLS clubs developed academies or a minor league, and local municipalities built pitches across the suburbs and inner cities. Then the US would probably be a powerhouse within 20 years.
I agree with guyfaux above. For one we have had the best womens team the last few decades but boys in America generally don't care about the sport. If you look at participation in high school sports soccer is behind our football, baseball, track, and basketball. Whereas for girls soccer is right behind volleyball at the top. Guys would generally rather go play basketball or football at a tiny college than go pro at soccer.
Another way to put it is Scandanavia has 140X the population of Somoa but Samoa is better at rugby. What gives? Well you just don't value the sport like they do. As with us and soccer.
And by our standard our current team is 'pretty good'. Which is a mild praise and not any kind of hubris. Compared to 10-20 years ago we have more well known players in Europe, we beat Mexico regularly, and not getting out of a WC group stage would be a disappointment.
@@justinlevy274 I agree with everything you said. My points were that (1) the US may be pretty good compared to where they've been, but they're terrible when you control for population and financial resources. In other words, they have A LOT more potential. And (2), this underperformance relative to the potential is due to a lack of interest, tradition, and know-how (as you say, the same reasons Samoa is better than Norway when it comes to rugby).
For the women, it should be noted that Europe unfortunately didn't care about the female side of the sport until very recently. The US was basically the only one putting money and effort into it. Now, when the Europeans have started to care, other nations (with much smaller populations) are quickly overtaking the US women's team. And of course, it's the traditional powerhouses (France, England, Spain) that are leading, because they already have the know-how and infrastructure in place.
Imagine Manchester United moving to Liverpool.. that would go down well 😁
Riots!!! That's what we're talking about here!!!
Real barcelona would be a war crime
@@muns8928 figo and R9 literally get the pass but that could never happen after them to be fair
@moody1288 actually Figo DIDN'T get the pass ppl we're ready to murder him. R9 was a different story but Figo was just plane betrayal. He even lifted the ballon d'or in Bernabeu the ballon d'or he won because of his performance playing for Barcelona and than there's also the Political war between the catalonia and Spain.
This is a great video for those who are not from the US...and great reaction as well 👍
10:46 the funniest thing about US football misconceptions is that they actually think England is good at football
Good or not, just as long as we’re better 🤣
@@Okthen-jc2yi England are AT MOST ok at football. At most. And still leagues away from the elite
@@Okthen-jc2yi Germany, Brazil, Italy, Uruguay, France, Argentina, Netherlands, and Spain all clear. Saying England is football elite is like saying Chile is, just because of a good talent crop every 50 years. England may be playing ok football atm, but they don't have the pedigree of the true giants
@@Okthen-jc2yi the aren't football elite. Never were, never will be. Need to win at least 3 more Euros or WCs to be there with the great
@@Okthen-jc2yi do some research as to HOW they won in 66. Proof of that is they have never won anything else, ever. Also noone takes the FIFA ranking seriously anymore, after having Belgium 1st for YEARS despite having won jack
The United States has been a power in women's soccer for two reasons:
1º The United States has taken women's football seriously.
2nd The rest of the world has not taken women's football seriously.
Recently the second point has been diluted since Europe is finally promoting women's football, which is why this year Spain has emerged as world champion with a golden generation.
I dare say that in the future it will be very difficult for the United States to win a World Cup again because now Europe has become serious about women's football.
They won't have it easy in the future, but USA will still be a top contender, tho. They do have a very strong women's league and the formation channels are solid.
Women's football in the UK only became fully professional in the last 20 years. That's why we've lagged behind so much, and England have only just started to achieve success in Euros and World Cups.
Good, this only makes the sport better.
It's been changing slowly but it feels It's changing a whole lot faster now. The interest in American football is certainly lessening and soccer is growing a whole lot. In a lot of the US, especially with all the large demographic changes, it's only a matter of time before soccer becomes the dominant culture.
The men's team will become a powerhouse eventually I'm sure of it. Who knows, with the next copa America and world cup on home soil, maybe we could see a huge upset run and witness something very special, something that will go much farther in pushing the sport than any amount of players the mls could bring in.
With the internet and games that can be streamed world wide, the entire world sports landscape is changing. In the next 10-20 years NFL will be popular, maybe the second most popular sport, and soccer will be officially consider one of the main sports here. Both sports should comfortably be the 3rd most popular in each side of the pond. For starters, both sports appeal or work better for different types of athletes. 300 lb dudes are not going to be running for 2 hours straight, but there is a place for them in american football, and vice-versa.
@@michaelpeli2429 nah we already have a superior "big hard man" sport in rugby. American football is as good as hopscotch.
@@michaelpeli2429 No, American football won't gain that much popularity...rugby is already very popular in many countries. I don't see American football taking it over.
NFL had their second highest tv ratings in 2023 since since 1995,7% increase from 2022.Interest isnt lessening.
@@frankf684 does TV ratings mean amount of viewers?
This is going to be a great series, can't wait for the next episode!
Next video is going live in 30 minutes!
Oh man felt like it's been forever since your last upload
Yeahhhh my bad 😅
The US isn't even bad at football, just middling. I'd wager that within the next 6-8 years the US will be a solid contender on the world stage. You guys are at least the best in North America.
That isn't saying that much...US has a lot more people than my country, Canada, we have a hard time beating the US. It was awesome upsetting the US on route to the 2022 World Cup. Mexico is trending downward right now.
The US does have a lot more immigrants that play and the game is growing exponentially in some areas.
Y’all both hit the nail on the head
I got you, Corey! Subscribed!!
Thank you!
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC You and Luke are doing good things, keep it up and keep helping to change our fellow Americans’ minds about football. We’ve got a World Cup to show out at, and the lads need our support! 🇺🇸
You guys aren't elite, but you don't totally suck, im half-English, half-Indian, I was born in England so I mainly follow England at international level, though in Asian tournaments I will support India, I'll be frank the thing with India is in football we suck, most Indian kids go to play cricket (which India is actually good at) the US have come an extremely long way since the early 90's, its just a sport that isn't traditionally part of US culture, you say about family, it was my Grandad that got me into football, young people in the US seem more receptive to our football these days, in the future, maybe the US will have that, maybe not to the same degree (in the UK we're literally marinated in football culture from a very young age, e.g I was 4 when I started getting into it)
Corey you’re doing an amazing just. We need you to help other influencers to spread the word about soccer. Need to get all the basketball and football channels on board. It’s a group effort.
Please be the real Haaland 🙏🏼 lol
Me and Luke are working hard! We’re putting together videos now that are more informative than simply reaction videos. Looking forward to pushing the sport here in the states!
@@CoreyMcKinneyFCu guys need like do a zoom with alot of Kids and make a debate "messi vs ronaldo" but seriously and make a video like this debates, u guys gona blow up, focus in the Kids audience
The truth is our National team/Players do not suck. Our talent level has never been higher. But when it comes to the national team coach/MLS/USSF, US Soccer as a whole does indeed suck. We don't even promote or market Soccer anymore.. I'm curious about how many people outside the sport even know there is a huge Soccer tournament in the States just a couple months away.
truth is MLS salary cap is holding the league back...the owners are saying "not yet"... but once it is raised (as demanded by Apple Streaming), MLS will be the best league in the world because of the money the owners WILL be making by paying for the world's best players these huge NBA/NFL salaries...and the U.S. i do suspect has the best atheletes on earth 🌎...just waiting for a spark...
Another problem is in America with soccer is its a rich sport. They always have pay to play. There are no programs for kids to play soccer for free like football and basketball. If you haven't noticed but most areas that win state titles in highschool soccer are mostly from rich suburb areas. They need to figure how to incorporate soccer in lower privileged neighborhoods to get talent from everywhere.
Here in Louisiana, this is certainly the case. Private Catholic schools dominate the soccer world over here
The best natural talents come from the underprivileged… the sooner they realize that the better
Jogo bonito !!
@@Prodigal971 yep you'll never find the best players studying in schools you'll find them on the streets playing concrete football as we call it back home.
Thats changing, all mls clubs are free. Soon USL clubs will follow.
@ruiz1871 yes I do agree with that but those players are coming from already established clubs that you pay for. They are not going through neighborhoods that don't have any club teams already.
The problem with simply throwing money at the sport is that this will actively hurt your national team.
The best way to get a strong league is to buy strong players....which will be foreign players one and all until you guys fix your youth development.
And if you always import your top players, you disincentivize young people to choose that sport as a career. This means you never get homegrown talent in large enough numbers to matter on the international stage. After a certain point, money is not a help, it's a hindrance when it comes to the national team. It stifles homegrown player development because there's no space for them in their own top league.
This is one reason the richest league in the world - the English premier league - disappoints at the World Cup again and again and again.
US compared to what we were when this video dropped is way better. MLS Next Pro was created. More MLS teams are creating academies with schools as well. USL is constantly growing and is the backbone of US soccer rn with 500 youth clubs across the country. I mean there are Multiple under 16 year olds who are signing contracts with Big Premier league clubs. As a whole we're definitely better than when the video dropped. Now can we be a top 10 team? are we great or just decent at soccer? Considering one of our best starters Dest is out for the year I'd say Copa America will be our true test to find that out. But I wouldn't say we suck as of right now. There's just huge expectations we a s country have for the team which is valid, but I'll still stick by them.
There’s never been a team that have won the World Cup that didn’t have kids playing unorganized football at parks or in the streets. These were and were not in some cases the training ground for elite players. What it demonstrates is that football was a part of the culture.
22:10 "make it as much as a business as possible" you hit the nail on the head 🤣 that's essentially what mls LLC is and they wanna kill local community soccer
lmaooo they just did it again with Indy 11, rip indy 11 you were a great club that deserved to continue going.
Learning to play football (soccer) is done before you reach your teens. If you wait until you are 15 or 16 it becomes much harder to become someone like Messi or any other top player.
So, until the US starts teaching kids to play from an early age and pick out the natural players for a more professional training the quality of players you get will remain second rate.
The US also needs a few more levels of leagues besides the MLS for those young talents to become better and advance in a natural way. The MLS also needs to introduce relegation. The lack of incentive to avoid ending at the bottom is only good for the team owners. But since they own shares in the MLS, not in the individual teams, I don't see why they could not kick out bad teams and introduce new ones to replace them - it would not affect their investments.
America plays more sports than other countries.Your a great young football you going to the NFL or MLS?You going to play soccer in college or play football in college?college football pays better
If you need incentive to play in whatever league you are playing in, then you are not a champion athlete.
@@michaelpeli2429 tell that to all the soccer stars taking the big paydays to go play in the Saudi league.
Great content. You should come to my country, Argentina, and see it with your own eyes. I can garantee you that a weekend here would turn the biggest red neck anti soccer into the most loyal football fan
As this channel grows, I hope to travel the world and see this sport played!
You mention the size of the states. Even the. NFL when formed in 1920’s was a league practically with in a few states on North East of the Country.
North east?NY,Ohio,Illinois,Kentucky,Wisconsin,Minnesota.only 2 teams in NY.
@@frankf684 to be fair that is fairly small part of the US, compared to how much the league covers now.
The trends are showing the rapid rise in infrastructure, coaching and training, player development and talent development in the usa. I hear your worries but juwt watch as the precipice hits in 5-8 years time and USMNT start to look about as strong as the average Euros ans WC quarterfinal reaching team. Then watch in another 5 years time after that how strong the USMNT will be... Almost ridiculous and dreamlike it will seem
MLS needs to have promotion and relegation.
No it doesn’t.That won’t make more people watch.The MLS needs better soccer
all that will do is create the massive imbalance you see in European soccer where only 4 or 5 teams (sometimes less) ever have the chance of winning the title.
MLB has had one team relocate since 2005.nba has 3 since 2001.NFL has 3 since 2016,nhl has 2 since 2011.it doesn’t happen as much as people like to think it does.
30:32 somehow it doesn't work in the nba,
Still better than the Mexican national team 😂
Watching this in 2x speed, but his reasons are mostly correct.
Low key wish I could’ve as well 🤣 great video though, it’s just a lot
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC it’s okay man, take care.
@@CoreyMcKinneyFCnah man if you watch at 2x we it would be 4x for us😅, keep it as it is.
soccer in the U.S will only start to flourish "when" the people here as a whole start to love it...the U.S. has always had the best atheletes in any field when there is a huge interest by the people..market, market, market the robust players (we love celebrity status) and make upcoming atheletes know the amount of money, especially the money that can be made (20+ million each year) ..then you will attract our best atheletes to dominate the sport...if the owners of MLS teams paid 10+ million to at least 8 to 9 of the players on each squad, how do you think MLS teams would fair?...
Dont be surprised if part of the hatred of "Soccer" wss purely because it wss an English creation 😂
🤣🤣🤣
It was viewed as a game for women and little kids who couldn’t play football.The sport was seen as a joke here for a long time.As much as it was mocked I doubt most knew where it was invented
There may be some truth to that, like how we are more of a coffee nation instead of tea.
So ...let me see if i can get this straight in my head
Dana White ....a man with no talent, and a history of speaking controversial opinions simply to be "edgy", and a even bigger history of making grand ploclaimations that and then going back on them (i still remember him saying Kimbo Slice would never fight in UFC, so of course he did) thinks footballers have no talent
You might as well tell me that the president of Botswana has an opinion on how i wear my socks ...i would take it more seriously 😂
USA Rugby's strategic development begins in 2024, with the goal of improving the American market and raising the competitiveness of the American national team, with the time to fulfill the goals being the World Cup in the USA in 2031.
USA Test Matches in 2024
July 5 - USA - Romania : State of Illinois
July 12 - USA - Scotland : Washington
July 19 - New Zealand - Fiji : San Diego
Pacific Cup 2024
August 31 - USA - Canada : Carson California
September 6 - Japan - USA : Kumagaya
Final Series September 14-21: Japan
The new format of the Pacific Cup will provide one home game for the Yankees each year, in addition, the final series will alternate between the USA and Japan, so looking at the final series that will be in the USA will be in 2025, 2027 and 2029, 2031 is world cup and the possibility of the Pacific Cup being cancelled, these finals series will provide five more games each for American fans, and regular games against Canada, Japan and a match or two with someone from Fiji, Samoa and Tonga will ensure a permanent rise in the level of American rugby players
AFL is the greatest ball game.
'coz soccers sock at football 😂
europe is way bigger than the us, i hope you know that and also has way more ppl
Europe is also an entire continent. My point was the US is just a country and isn’t as small as other European countries
US only has 400 million less people.US is only 1 million less square miles.Its not way bigger or have way more people.Also the US is one country,europe is 50 countries I hope you know that
Probably because baseball was invented by the British.
Yea ppl were very xenophobic unfortunately and I really wish it was different so fútbol could’ve flourished in our country
Na,it was seen as a girl sport or a wussy sport.Had nothing to with xenophobia.
Without a relegation style system (which I don't see happening anytime soon in the US, to greedy of a country) the us will always be behind.
USA women's are world champions. I disagree on that statement.
Working on a documentary style video about why the women’s team is so successful now. This video is in reference to the men’s team
I agree when he said that the reason why football didn't take off in the US in the beginning was because there was no grassroots level start for the sport in the States, like in other countries. Football was, is, and forever will be a sport that is eternally linked to the community, compared to most US sports that are mostly 'franchises' and just profit-minded. Also, that mentality of Americans only interested in the sport as long as 'they win all the time' is an extremely poor mentality. The reason why Europe and South America are very good at the sport is because it took them HUNDREDS of years to actually play and improve at the sport to be at the level where they are now, not something that lasts only 30 years. You have to slowly play the sport, suffer, and slowly improve to truly become 'world-class'.
Also, 'nationalism' is cancerous, much worst than 'patriotism'.
I watch videos of Americans talking about NFL, football, and they always end up focusing on when money moves.
Americans have not yet understood that in the NFL they are supporting capitalist companies, since their purpose is to generate money. In Europe, most clubs are going to losses because here the important thing is not money, but the pride of your club, your fans and your city. Your club in Europe or Latin America is not a company, it is something that is part of your life, it defines you as a person.
@@Mumujalegoyou're 100% right. My local club is on the verge of being promoted to the top league. It is not some company I could support. It is the club I played for and was a member of in my childhood. Completely different emotional connection.
@@Mumujalegoand if you think no football ⚽️ team is money driven your a fool.
@@Benjamin-xv9ledo you live in the US?have you followed American sports?your very uneducated on how it is here.
Ah, that's why Madrid is so successful because of their passion and frugal investments they've made. Any fan wants their team to spend as much money as possible to when. It's just in the NFL the lowest paid team is still spending 90% of the highest paid team. So, the winner really weeds out by preparation, talent, skill, coaching, and as always a little bit of luck.
Untill people in the us understand it's not just a game it's religion it's starts when you're young it's your team and you till death football for us is a way of living untill you understand that you'll never know what why we love it so much
Go talk to some US college football fans.Its a religion to them.its not unique to football ⚽️
@@frankf684baseball and hockey too
Starts with the fail of naming it right.
we named it what the English taught us
The current US mens team is pretty good. Mckennie and Pulisic are the goats.
Also, for a long time and even now, soccer has been viewed as an immigrant sport. That's largely because most immigrant parents have no familiarity with American sports, minus a few exceptions. Examples like Mexico , the DR, PR, Venezuela, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan (for baseball); Lithuania and most of Western Europe (for basketball) and Finland, Russia, Sweden, Austria, Switzerland and Czechia (for hockey). This also coincides that most registered soccer players in pee-wee soccer being there because their moms don't want them to get CTE playing football. Also, most registered players in the higher levels of soccer are either children or grandchildren of immigrants since they have closer ties to the sport compared to some Americans from families who have been here since the 17th century (Mayflower/Jamestown families).
All eyes are on MLS at the moment so this will naturally transpire..👍In 10 years time the only leagues that are going to matter are the EPL and MLS
hahaha. NO.
la liga>>>EPL
Just look at who wins the European competitions every year: the EPL is a big lie.
@@Mumujalego 🤣🤣🤣
One has to love the US American's optimism.
@@jal051 more like delusion of grandeur
I think a top 10 league is more realistically in range. The top 5 europe leagues will still matter, but the smaller country leagues are already being hurt as the larger ones suck up more and more of the money.
The more younger people speak the dumber they sound. Most of this shit is a website away. Amazingly most people have an idiot proof phone to keep you informed!
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That was pretty funny. Talk about misinterpretation. Thinking American football is more manly, wow, in a sport where guys wear body armor to play. I know the excuse, size of players, and I counter with rugby, same size and only shin pads. Americans are tough? Only US citizens believe that.
If you had been playing male football and not just female the men's team would be a serious threat? I see why you think that. There are two reasons why that is not right. The USWNT plays against women's teams from other nations, but women's football is not well supported in most countries, as no one wants to watch it. So the USWNT has had an advantage in having a system supported by your colleges, which is a system that doesn't exist elsewhere. That said they were knocked out of the most recent Women's World Cup.
Secondly the way MLS is set up is wrong. You use the franchise system which means almost all games are meaningless. There are games for top three or four teams which have meaning, but not too much of it, because winning the league means financial rewards, it doesn't lead to more meaningful competition as it does elsewhere in the world. It just means a bit more prize money. Finish last 20 years in a row and what happens? Nothing, except less prize money. Contrast this with elsewhere where winning or being near the top of your league leads to competitions next season with winners of other competitions in your region (usually continent). This leads to large financial prizes, plus gains of international reputation and respect Losing means being relegated to a lower division where you will stay until you can win promotion,. This is why the standard of play in the MLS is so low. Don't think it's low? Look at Messi, a goal scoring God in MLS but he couldn't do that anywhere else. He is a great player, but in a top level league in Europe he doesn't score that number of goals, because people have reason to prevent him also his age is becoming a factor. Players in other countries are always playing for their personal career, as it's easy with a perceived wrong attitude to become someone that none of the top teams want to gamble on, which affects the career of that player. Watch an MLS match and in most of them the defenders jog back towards their own goal when the striker has gone past them. You hardly ever see the desperate challenges you see in other countries and players rarely slide in to try to win the ball. As long as MLS is what you have you will lag behind other countries. It keeps you mainly relying on players who play abroad as candidates for your men's national team.
As for American football being a great sport that's pretty funny. It is the slowest sport in the world. You may think otherwise but it's an 80 minute game that takes 4 hours to play. That's slow. Also you play for 12 seconds at a time, and time out when you have a problem. Just deal with it. No sports outside the US do that, and for good reason. The biggest problem with American sport is it's all closed off, and except for the Olympics and the likes, the USA doesn't play against anyone but yourselves. I know there is the odd Canadian team in some of your sports, but that is only because they are a huge country with a small population and no other neighbours apart from Greenland.
Incidentally when the World Cup was played in the states it nearly wasn't. When the USA won the bid for the world cup they told FIFA (the world governing body of the sport) that they needed to change it to four quarters for tv advertising. FIFA said if that was how it had to be then they would take the tournament elsewhere, and the rules remained unchanged. Incidentally I am a Scot living i9n the USA now (American wife) and I bemoan the lack of watchable football here. Incidentally my team in Scotland has an American player . When he arrived he was from American college football and he was hopeless but had natural talent. Two years later he is becoming a very good player, quite transformed from the slow, unfit player he was when he arrived. I think he may play for the USA at some point he really is that good.
I'll take the franchise system any day. all pro/rel does is create a system where the rich only get richer and the same 4 or so teams are always on top and the rest of the teams are just happy to be there. you mention being from Scotland, how competitive is the Scottish league? oh, 2 teams have won almost every championship. but thats a small leagues so lets look at the English league, 7 winners since 1992. the NFL has had 17 different winners in that time.
@@nickb2049 Well it's not like you have a choice. As for the NFL, like all your sports you only play yourselves. Guess you will always just be poor at football.
It's because we won the war. You have to lose a war or be losing and have your allies bail you out to develop the mentality that somehow a draw has value. Getting points for not winning is like writing a cheque to Poland in '39 knowing you can never cover it but expecting others to do it for you. It's defeatist and reeks of moral failure.
Utter fucking horse shit. The reason you have no ability to value a draw is because your so-called sport has no true jepardy. Nothing matters in american sport. There are no consequences, you do not have relegation or promotion. Why? because all you understand is money. The backers wont risk their investment. So to try and make it entertaining you need a million points per game, cheerleaders and all the other showbiz crap. The actual game is just a sales medium. Typical american take on things though, walk around with your head up your arse and then lecture the world on something they understand and you do not. Fucking retard.
What??? Take your medication and go to bed.
We have the ability to draw in professional American Football as well
You're having a stroke here or what?
WW2 was almost a hundred years ago.the revolution was 248 years ago get over it
Zealand is one of the best football content creators out there. Do check more of him, especially his Football Manager contents.
Soccer and NFL is boring
Real football ⚽️ is the best and the most entertaining sport in the world ⚽️❤️
It is NOT soccer, it is football.
You don't deserve to enjoy it if you call it soccer.
blame England for naming it that