ATC Pro Tips from an Air Traffic Controller
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- We are taking Michael, an FAA Air Traffic Controller, up in the Bonanza to give some insight and pointers for radio communication at towered airport. After that, we'll see how he does at an uncontrolled field. We are flying from Cedar Rapids (KCID) to Des Moines (KDSM), and from there to Pella (KPEA) in Iowa.
0:00 Start
1:35 Radio overview
2:24 Picking up clearance
3:29 Tips for an initial call to ATC
6:38 Ready for take-off
8:25 Contacting Departure - and the word "to"/"two"
9:51 When is it helpful to call the Tower by phone before the flight
13:47 Contact approaches, and FAA Order 7110.65 ("the Bible")
19:14 Pilot workload and approach clearances
20:55 Planning out approach into Des Moines
22:38 Use of IDENT when picking up a clearance
24:26 Take a tour of the ATC Tower
26:49 Airport in sight
27:34 "Got him in the box/fish finder" - DON'T!
29:58 Landing in Des Moines
31:26 Pilatus PC-24 sighting
31:52 Can a tower controller go to an uncontrolled field?
34:04 About spotting other traffic
35:20 CTAF announcement
35:36 Be brief with your traffic calls
38:52 Landing in Pella
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Some say ATC controllers are born with a coffee cup in their hand and never let go.
You all probably dont give a shit but does any of you know a tool to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me!
I had a CFI that would say, "This button is called push-to-talk, not push-to-think. Plan what you are going to say before keying up." I'm glad that I learned to fly at a towered airport and always requested traffic advisories with approach control while training and maneuvering, it helped a lot to ease my anxiety over dealing with ATC.
Push-to-talk, not push-to-think - I like that!
- Martin
@@martinpaulyPut brain in gear, then open your mouth.
As a student I found ATC comms super easy ....when I was in the back seat and not the one flying in the soup, navigating, and using checklists at the same time.
as an Instrument student, I feel this 😂😂
Not even a pilot yet and learned so much. Thank you for doing this. What a great video!
Glad you got something out of it!
- Martin
This may be the most useful video on ATC communications I’ve ever seen. Thank you for arranging this
You are very welcome, Brian.
- Martin
As part of the Army's Instrument Examiner's Course, we are required to be familiar with the 7110.65 in order to simulate ATC and issue clearances. It makes you a much better IFR pilot and raises the awareness of how it's "supposed to sound." It helps immensely to visit your local controllers and be familiar with their preferences and peeves. I have gotten excellent service from ATC simply because I coordinated with them beforehand... I love teaching this stuff!
That makes perfect sense, Kevin!
- Martin
That's good to know...
This is outstanding. Complete communications with current ATC guy (approach and tower) in the cockpit. Helps me as a rusty pilot with minimal ATC commo. Both guys are excellent in their commentary and insights in terms of both pilot and controller!!! Also I always wanted to go to the tower to see their side of things, but didn't know if this was acceptable to them. Now I know it is and I plan to do so. Finally, I am extremely impressed with how professional both guys are. I can only hope to one day achieve this level of competence.
Thank you, Tom. My understanding is the FAA is now allowing tower visits again, after their lock-down during the pandemic. I find it very helpful to see the perspective of the controllers and hear first hand what pilots can do to help make things run smoothly and safely.
- Martin
Thanks Martin, a great video as always. I think you have found your secret super power, interviewing people! This was very informative and well put together. Having a controller working with controllers while giving us all pointers was such a great idea. When Michael caught himself using "for" in his phraseology, that was great to see how easy it is to forget. Thanks again for great content!
Thanks, Russ, and I'll try to put my "super power" to good use! 😁
- Martin
Martin, Thanks for the shout out to APATC!!! Awesome video!!! More pilots should consider taking a controller up for familiarization on both sides!!! Freaking awesome!
Thanks for steering me towards APATC - great group; I've learned a lot from them!
- Martin
Great job taking a pilot ATC controller along. Not a pilot but still found it very informative and interesting. I can see you both had a good time. Thank you Martin. You do interview very well also.
Brilliant idea Martin. I could hear and see some positive lessons being learned on that flight. Thanks for taking us along and take care!
Martin... All of your videos are great and this one's at the top of the list. Thanks so much for recording and sharing it. Ron
Thank you, Ron!
- Martin
Another good one Martin!
I am so glad I found your channel. You have some great videos!
Hey Martin, I found your video after browsing the CZcams. I'm currently deployed overseas, and I thought finding a video that flew into my home airport was the coolest thing! It makes me excited for the day I'll fly into that airport when I finally return home. Thanks for the video sir.
Hey Chris, are you referring to Des Moines or Pella as your home town? Either way, I hope everything goes well during your deployment. Thank you for what you do, and take care.
- Martin
@@martinpauly DSM is my home. I've worked there and also flown in plenty of times, but I've never had the privilege of seeing an in-cockpit approach until your video. Someday after I get home I hope to do it in person.
This was awesome. Thank you guys.
Nice subject; really appreciated hearing some of the tips and tricks of ATC. Well done!
Great video! I lived that you point out where the air ports are. Well done!
Keep these vids coming. Good stuff Martin.
Thanks, will do!
- Martin
As a low hour VFR pilot I always appreciate advice from a real ATC controller. Although they scare me in the air they are usually very nice onthe ground..thanks!
Good video Martin, such a good idea - learned a lot. Enjoy the rest of your summer.
Thanks - you, too!
- Martin
Very nice insight, Martin. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it, Jeff.
- Martin
Great Vid with super information from you both. Thanks -
Thank you, Steini.
- Martin
Excellent video! Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
- Martin
Great content as always. Thank you.
My pleasure, Ryan. Enjoy your Sunday evening!
- Martin
Went out practicing holds in N315RH. Nice evening to fly!
I gotta say I love the video but I also love reading through your comments.and seeing so many familiar faces.
Aviation is a small world - apparently even here on CZcams!
- Martin
Good one, thanks !!!
Another helpful video! Thanks Martin!
My pleasure!
- Martin
Great Watch! Thanks Martin ...
Thank you, Zack!
- Martin
Thank you for sharing the perfect ATC comms. I think I have some work to do to perform mine !
Great video thanks!
Excellent video. Congrats.
Thanks!
- Martin
Another great video thank you 😊
You are so welcome!
- Martin
Thanks Martin..gr8 video and info...Shout out from Philly!!
Thanks, JR!
- Martin
Thank You!!! I hold my PPL but tended to not talk to the tower during my training. I was out of a non-controlled tower and had no transponder... These type of videos help me build confidence to enter airspace. Again, THANK YOU!
Hi Martin,
I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks a lot to you and Michael.
Greetings from MX
Our pleasure, Saul.
Greetings from Iowa!
- Martin
Interesting point of view. Love listening to the Coms.
WOW! Martin, way to go with this one. Very informative and nice to be reminded of do's and don'ts in out com work. I'm sure glad to know controllers love their pastries too. Thanks Martin. Enjoying that smooth new engine too.
Oh yes they do love those pastries, Preston! 😁
- Martin
Nice work 👏
Thank you!
- Martin
Thanks Martin, Great Info
Glad it was helpful!
- Martin
Martin, this is one of your best videos... great treat having a controller/pilot onboard.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it!
- Martin
Great lesson, nice to know how the controllers work. Thanks
Our pleasure, Wilhelm!
- Martin
Cool video, I like all the info you were breaking down throughout
Thanks, Tony - glad you enjoyed it.
- Martin
Fantastic video. I’ve never seen a flight with a controller before. Wonderful way to learn.
Thanks for the video ! Its nice to see a video of your flight into Des Moines. That's where I flew into when I was taking lessons in Pella years ago. Too bad you couldn't have stopped in KPEA for some pastries :)
It's ok, I'll eat them for you :) I get them every other day in Oskaloosa :):) Thanks again !!!!
Great Video. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, Jake.
- Martin
Thanks for this super informative video. Just joined the APACT.
Appreciate your videos👍😁
Thanks for the feedback, Ray, and I hope you find APATC useful.
- Martin
I jumped the gun on that> I commented before your video was up. YES !!! great ole Pella :)
Oh yes, we did stop in Pella, and we did go to the bakery. One simply cannot land in Pella and NOT go to the bakery. 😁
- Martin
Vielen Dank für das schöne Video.
Gern geschehen!
- Martin
Love watching your videos, used to do a ton a GA flying out there and all the voices are familiar, even the guy calling from Iowa City I used to work with.
It's a small world - you are bound to hear the same voices again and again, I guess.
- Martin
outstanding sky color
ATC:" Turn Heading -3-0-0-"
Pilot, "Roger, Turn Heading -0-3-0-" ...
BTDT
My hand signal for no shutdown (thanks, Covid) is a vigorous shaking of the head and a horizontal swipe of the hand and a point back to the arrival end of the runway with a thumbs up. And they nod in return
Thanks Martin, very interesting! I wonder if they are required to play a 'scratchy record' in the background when they record the ATIS.?? 8) --gary
Haha, yes, they probably do! 😂
- Martin
*I have my Instrument checkride in one week, and this video is amazingly helpful!! Learning about Radio Comms from ATC's view has helped me be more confident (and I hope, helpful) over the Radio.* :)
Good luck for your checkride! Let us know how it turned out.
- Martin
I learned so much (at least two things) from this video.... PTAC - position/turn/altitude/clearance (only required to read back altitude), and a very quick way to request VFR: request terminate radar. WONDERFUL! Also good to know that ATC has to reference the manual occasionally. So much to remember.
Glad to hear this was helpful for you, Robert.
- Martin
Such a clean windshield !!
Um, OK, thanks - is that really what made this video special for you?
- Martin
Martin Pauly I’m currently training for my instrument license and I’m watching a lot of your videos because you do all the steps and it makes it really nice and let me tell you the number of guys who do not clean their windshields and it really drives me up a wall especially when they’re videotaping. I guess what I’m saying is I’m just very impressed by the production value of the videos. I’m actually currently watching the Sportys series on instrument training and yours is easily at that production level which is a professional production
@@guy999 Ah, now I understand. Thanks for the explanation, and all the best for your instrument training and checkride!
(And yes, I usually do clean my Bonanza after each trip - including the windshield.)
- Martin
Great, useful information!
.....hope the derecho was kind to your home and airport.
Thanks for asking. This beast wasn't kind to ANYTHING. KCID took some light damage to buildings and equipment and is still without power this morning, four days later. Marion (C17) was hit pretty hard; several airplanes and hangars were damaged badly. My house faired reasonably well - we don't have tall trees in the neighborhood, which made all the difference.
- Martin
Very cool. I am a controller right near CID!
This video is helpful. I enjoy learning about the other side of things. I'm one of those guys who normally flies into uncontrolled airports so I get squeamish when flying into towered ones, so I chuckled a little that the controller didn't like the idea of an uncontrolled airport.
I, too, thought that was funny! 😁
For most pilots it's the other way around.
Best,
Martin
! ! ! AWESOME ! ! !
Thanks A Lot Martin !
I’m Eager To Know Cedar Rapids, Pella, Des Moines, Among Other Beautiful Sites !
You Are a Real Ambassador Far Beyond Aviation !
We Learn As We Watch !
Congratulations For The Channel !
Many Thanks !
Best Regards !
P.S.: We Miss CoPilot Becky !
She’s Really Fun Besides Skilled CoP !
Thanks - and Beckey will be back in future videos, for sure!
- Martin
Great topic! Imagine if all pilots where controllers and vice versa.
It's great to widen your perspective and put yourself in the shoes of others!
You are right - it always helps to see things from the other side.
- Martin
Martin, please keep on publishing these videos!! I appreciate how professionally you prepare them! I found you only recently which I am so happy about. I have started to use your videos as add-on for the training of my students. VERY helpful!!!
You are German, right?
BR Ralf
Hallo Ralf - vielen Dank, und ja, ich bin Deutscher.
Gruss, Martin
Great video Martin. I’ve been flying IFR for many years and still picked up a couple of good pointers. I requested a contact approach once where the conditions were perfect to do so, and it still wasn’t approved, so I think overall they are reluctant to do so.
Either reluctance, or maybe some of the other conditions ATC needs to check (which pilots never hear about in ground school) were not met. And yes, I learned a couple of new things on this flight, too.
- Martin
Elliot is a great FBO... I use them at FCM in Minneapolis.
great video Martin . I plan on taking one of the ATC from JFK tower on a flight soon , I will try to produce a video too ..
Awesome - go for it, Aidan! 👍
- Martin
This pilot sounds great, I love that he won’t attempt a turn on an engine out
I'm not so sure, 2000ft is pretty high. I once had engine problems at around 800ft so I pulled the power to idle, declared emergency, and turned around to land back the way I took off with plenty of room to spare. Better to do that than lose the plane crashing in a field imo. Of course depends on conditions. Anyways his plane, he is PIC, so his rules, just seems too high.
Every bird's different. Know your airplane. Practice 180 idle turns and see how much your airplane loses, both down low and up high, for various airport elevations. Either way, knowing it makes your decision easier.
@@JasonPhipps Definitely agree on that
@@LightRealms He said 2000' MSL. The ground is approximately 800' MSL in Cedar Rapids so that's about 1200' AGL. Not quite as high.
Thank you, Martin. Informative as usual. Other conversation I would like to hear from ATC is their feelings on pilots that are now because of advances in avionics and weather reporting in the cockpit, attempting to circumvent instructions/suggestions on approaching weather. I listen to live ATC from Knoxville, where there is a lot of Cirrus SR22 traffic. (Not to single out Cirrus pilots, but only because it is an airport where there is a lot of advanced single engine traffic, with advanced avionics). Often pilots will suggest other options either on approach or prior to departure to beat the weather, most of the time where ATC ends up being right, and the pilot has to break off the approach or deviate anyway. Weather discussions seem to be more of a negotiated conversation anymore.
Sometimes it's better that everyone be on the same page than to try to be more right.
What size iPad do you use? Pros/cons? Thank you for the great videos.
Greetings from Morocco👌👍😎
Super!!!!! Thanks much…
Great to have Michael with you and topic to cover, Martin! The moment you suggested to go to uncontrolled was very funny.
Funny indeed! Everyone has their comfort zone, and I guess we found the limits of Michael's at that very moment. 😁
- Martin
@@martinpauly The way you edited that was just so well done. I really had to laugh! And you're right! I think I looked the same to my instructor as Michael did in your movie, when I lately did my initial call, expected English and the man in the tower started to talk back in German ;-)
35:32 He states he is a pilot and explained that he knew the process of approaching/landing at a uncontrolled field, but he will not be quiet, so the pilot could listen to aircraft locations. I would have told him to shut-up, so I give you props for keeping your composure! Great flying, sir!
I thought she giggled a little when he first got on the radio. He was GOOD though!!! I liked the comment about not seeing air traffic you know is there. I was landing at Casa Grande KCGZ to get some "cheap" fuel a week or so ago. It's an uncontrolled airport with a VOR (Stanfield TFD) off to the west and it is used for extensive IFR training. There were 3 aircraft inbound on the ILS, and 1 other on base when I entered the downwind! I never saw any of them, but just waited until all 4 got by me on the tablet before I turned base. Thank goodness for ADS-B in.
Martin, your invitation to this controller, Michael, was brilliant. Insightful choice. Perceptive gentleman. Love his concise phraseology on the freq. Especially enjoyed your description of your pet-peeve about ATC interventions at high workload moments, which ATC has a blind spot about. They train so much, really in an excellent way, and they have a blind unawareness about issuing new clearances right at the moments of high single-pilot workloads. Hope you do more of these ATC-pilot interactions. And please consider a session describing the iPad mount step by step, parts list.
Thanks, Robin. Maybe we'll do another flight with Michael sometime for more ATC insight.
The iPad mount in my cockpit is a simple off-the-shelf RAM mount. I don't believe they make this particular kind anymore, but several similar ones are available from RAM or Sporty's etc.
- Martin
Thanks!
You bet!
- Martin
Honestly impresses me how pilots can fly in the Uk and USA so comfortably, although the general aspects of controlling are similar in both countries, they differe vastly in terms of what you are allowed to do and obviously more so the phraseology.
Just started my live training as a controller on England and loving it. Great video!
Hi Ben, I have not flown in the UK, but I have in Germany a few other European countries. We sure have it good here in the US, in terms of how easy everything is for general aviation.
Best regards,
Martin
Martin Pauly Hi Martin, thanks for the reply. I think pilots flying in any country is impressive. Keep up the good videos
I have a similar headset Martin - way more comfortable for longer flights! I still have my old DC;s for extra long flights if I need a change.
what model is it ? I looking to buy something similar and what about noise reduction ? I am flying on cessna . your thoughts
I agree, Steve. These in-ear, very light weight headsets are very comfortable on long flights.
- Martin
Another great and informative video. Thank you much!
In future videos, please try to lower the engine sound. Watching a 40 minutes video with engine humming gets exhausting very fast.
Hey Martin, great video. Can I just confirm one thing, the comment re the ILS/RNAV turn on, he said the only readback is the Alt, I thought the heading and cleared for the approach was a requirement as well. The PTAC is a good tip.
Per 7110.65 - ATC requirements are altitude only. Also per 7110.65 ATC is to use "best judgement" to make decisions. An example would be approaches to parallel runways, the pilot should be expected to confirm the runway assignment by ATC to ensure separation is maintained. Another way to think of it is if the pilot reads it back and ATC doesn't correct it and the pilot follows what he read back, ATC is at fault. If the pilot doesn't read back and something happens it's on the pilot. That's why it's considered best practice to read back almost all instructions/clearances.
Hey Martin. Great vid. Curious as to what headset you are wearing.
Thanks. The headset is called 'Halo' from Quiet Technologies.
- Martin
Great video! Thanks! To ATC: sometimes the ATIS-Info is very hard to understand. Some controllers are too sloppy when recording.
It definitely helps to know whats going on on both sides of the radio.
Sometimes that is a problem, yes. What I would like to see is more widespread use of Digital ATIS, uplinked along with other FIS-B stuff. Recording this through voice is not really an efficient solution anymore these days.
'We'll take taxiway Romeo'
Taxiways Papa and Romeo..... We have Yankee
nice!
ADS-B as a tool. I was flying into a controlled airport and the non-radar tower told me to cut in front of another airplane. I saw him on ADS-B so I told the tower that I have him on ADS-B and it would be best for me to follow the traffic. So sometimes ATC likes to have an ADS-B report! Seems like they should be using ADS-B in the tower if they don't have radar.
That seems like a no-brainer at first, but it has its own set of problems. Not all aircraft have ADS-B "out", and the airspace controlled by radar-less towers don't require aircraft to be ADS-B equipped. So now you have a mix of traffic, and controllers cannot rely on specific equipment.
- Martin
@@martinpauly Sorry but that sounds like a FAA response. Your basically saying that no information is better than some information! Oh, and this tower I talked about is under a Class B area so all aircraft there have ADS-B.
@@FlyMeAirplane Yes, you heard me correctly. No information is often preferred over partial or potentially misleading information. That's an important design goal for computer/avionics system in aviation. Imagine a tower controller looking at an ADS-B display; maybe they see a target they are looking for, or maybe they don't. Or they see a target but it's not the one they were looking for, instead it's the #2 on final - now they have distance information which doesn't match the aircraft they were thinking of. It can get confusing... So yes, the FAA sets the bar very high for that kind of system, and for good reasons.
- Martin
@@martinpauly thanks for making the excellent video. After years of flying with ADS-B I'm pleased with the system.. even tho it could have been implemented way cheaper.
Hope all is well. I moved from Marion 2 years ago and our old property has no trees left after the storm.
Doing OK thanks. It was the worst storm I've ever seen, by far. Marion airport was hit pretty hard, too.
- Martin
Great video! What is the headset that you are wearing, Martin? It looks so cool.
It's called 'Halo', from Quiet Technologies. Very light weight and no pressure on your head/ears whatsoever.
- Martin
@@martinpauly Thank you very much! Love your videos!
@@martinpauly Thank you Martin! I got a pair of Halo, and they worked great!
Martin, your videos have inspired me to try to get back into flying after being on the ground for the past 4 years. Thank you for continuing to produce such quality content. By the way, I'm very curious about your headset. Would you be able to tell me where you got it?
Hi Jonathon, that is my favorite thing to read here in the comments - that someone starts (or start over) flying after seeing the videos. Best of luck for getting back into the left seat!
The headset I use is the Halo, made by Quiet Technologies. I like it a lot, due to its very light weight and lack of pressure.
- Martin
I’m a student pilot and was very interested with the topic/ idea of an ATC in the cockpit. I found this recording to be more for experienced pilots. The ATC person was a fast radio talker and was hard to always follow. But for 1 or 2 comments his comments weren’t very educational but more conversational. I would love to hear an ATC in right seat focused more for students. Big fan of the channel, thanks.
Hi Kevin. Yes, this video was not targeted at student pilots - more at those who already familiar with the basics and want to hear some related comments from a controller.
I wish you all the best for completing your training and certificate!
Best regards,
Martin
I don't know what kind of signal you used for your stop in DSM, but here in GRB a quick turn, no services, no shut down is, typically the same as the engine start signal. Index finger raised and spin that in a circle a couple of times to the line guy for a "Quick Turn".
Thanks, Michael. I'll have to look that one up and confirm. Didn't expect there to be a hand signal, but happy to learn something new
- Martin
It’s not “standard” if that’s what you’re looking for but it’s one of those things that has a double meaning based on the situation. I’d talk with your local FBO line guys to see if they’ve ever seen something similar to see what they say.
Another excellent video, thanks for sharing. One question for ATC, when given a missed approach clearance "Climb to 3000', turn left 060" is the expectation that the pilot will first climb to the cleared altitude before executing the turn? That's the way I remember always doing it, just wondering what ATC is expecting.
Hi Spike, in that case the expectation would be that you start the climb immediately upon beginning the missed approach, and turn to heading 060º upon reaching 400 feet above the ground or passing the missed approach point (MAP), whichever comes later. This last part is important only if you decide to initiate your missed approach before you reach the MAP (if you don't know what the MAP is, think of the runway). You can start a climb to the missed approach altitude early, but you're not allowed to change your lateral path (incl. heading) until after reaching the MAP.
At any rate, the instructions DON'T mean to first climb to 3000' and THEN, after reaching 3000', turn to the new heading.
I hope this helps!
- Martin
If I am correct, I sense slight traces of austrian accent in the voice of the pilot? Love that, greetings from Vienna!
Very close, Andreas, but think a little further north than Austria. 😁
Herzliche Grüsse aus Iowa!
- Martin
Excellent video.
Did you edit the picking up clearance part or did neither of you write anything down? Always write stuff down. Even the simplest instruction can be forgotten when things get busy.
Thanks, Chris. I always write down IFR clearances; they are my "contract" with ATC in case I lose communications. For VFR clearances out of the Class Charlie, at least at my home field the only thing that ever varies is the transponder code, and I don't write that down. Different things work for different places, though.
- Martin
Hello captain Martin
it was a very good flight ... please lait me share with you how we do takeoff briefing as jet :
1- Takeoff type
*standard /or performance
*Runway and length
2- V- speed:
*Speed and thrust
3- Standard calls
*V1/ Vr/ V2
4- Reject Items:
*Prior 80 for any Abnormality
*80-V1 for Muster Warning
*Directional Control
* Safety issues
5- Emergency Plan
6- Departure
*TWO
7- Transition
*FL/ALT / MSA
8- Any Question?
always wishing you vary safe flight
Captain CL-605 from overseas
How on earth did you remember and then repeat back all that Ground ATC information that was given to prior to take off? I was overwhelmed even though I had subtitles.
Well, all that information follows a pattern. So while the details are different, the structure of the information is very familiar. That helps.
- Martin
@@martinpauly Cheers.
Island Express trying to sue 2 of the Air traffic control SoCal for the Ara Zobayan N72EX(Kobe Bryant) helicopter crash brought me here.
Hello from Belgium! A radio com question: when ATC tells you to report a 3 mile left base, what does that mean? Is it a normal base (that it will intercept a 3 mile final) but 3 miles out of the airport, or is it a very wide base that will have you turn a 3 mile final? I hear both explanations and that confuses me… We do not use that phraseology in Europe. Thanks! Very nice video, btw!!
Hi Arno. I don't know if this officially defined anywhere, but I've heard this in situations when I was approaching the airport such that I was approaching the airport perpendicular to the runway, i.e. on a very long base leg. I will then report when I'm three miles from my turn to final.
- Martin
Nice! I always enjoy your videos, Martin! As far as communications go, it seems that every once in a while a new radio slang seems to take hold. The latest must have crept in from pilots that also bartend. What’s up with the “last call” comment overheard at 33:40? I cringe every time that I hear it.
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, that "last call" puzzled me as well. No idea where that came from, or why it might be important.
- Martin
@@martinpauly i was always told it was basicly im going to center or approach to get flight following or make chewbacca noises on guard (never recommended except in flight sims)and leaving the CTAF
@@Newberntrains Well, THAT explains a lot! 😂
@@martinpauly yup i do wonder with the low number of mid-airs how many could have been prevented with proper piloting and comms use :(
Ah yes, the "last call" call. The most useless waste of radio waves.
At 38:45, what system gave you the audio advisory "1 mile final Runway 16"?
That was an audio callout from ForeFlight on the iPad, Larry.
- Martin
Martin, what settings do you have on your Gopros for ariel videos? I am in the process of purchasing a Cubcrafters FX3 and would like to film my flights out of the Chicago area.
36:06 ATC guy: "When you in towered airspace you don't have to tell me if you are turning base, final etc - we already know...
28:42 Him also: "Des Moines Towere Bonanza 0TB TURNING BASE runway 13.
P.S. I know exactly what he meant by saying it, but it is still funny.
There is a big difference between providing your location during the INITIAL CONTACT for awareness and constantly reporting your position in the pattern.
- Martin
Are comm 1 antennas standardized to the bottom of the airplane and 2 on the top? just curious for clearer pilot controller radio communication when airborne.
There's no standard for this. And not all aircraft have two COM radios, either. It all depends...
- Martin
This is not my language. Every time he said “this pilot came to Cedar Rapids...” I heard “he came to see the rabbits”... totally sounded like that. First I thought that was the problem, that he didn’t use standard phraseology. To see the rabbits 🐇...😂
Maybe he DID come to Cedar Rapids to see the rabbits. 🥸
I like your version way better than the correct one.