How To Fix VAR! | Explained
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With bad decisions costing teams penalties and red cards every week - as well as seeing season-ending challenges, like Jordan Pickford’s on Virgil van Dijk, go unpunished - VAR has brought a new level of controversy to football. The Premier League has already reviewed its rules multiple times this season after complaints from Arsenal, Southampton, and Chelsea, and while some teams seem to benefit from the system every week, like Leicester and Man United, others seem to be constantly losing points to VAR.
With all this in mind, this week’s FD: Explained is our take on how VAR could be improved. From the nonsensical handball rule, to the time-wasting offside system, we examine just what makes the process so slow and inconsistent, and how we can fix it.
Let us know what you think in the comments.
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It’s not VAR that’s the problem it’s the people using it.
Its some of the laws that are made as well that are out of date
@@Beyondultragaming some of the laws are vague, like mentioned in the video. Leaving different interpretation by different referees (as well as VAR)
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Correct, plus the got the head of VAR, Mike Dean the clown, should of retired or got sacked year ago
@Nash Kairo instablaster =)
I feel like you should also have paid some attention to diving. The VAR era has introduced a rise in attacking players searching for contact with a defender to then fall down, rather than utilize their skill to get past the defense. They know that any contact is enough for VAR to call it a penalty. In my opinion there should always be a former professional player in the VAR room (at least in top tier of football). This persons task is solely to give an unbiased opinion on whether or not there was genuine contact by the defender, or if its the attacking player thats trying to draw a penalty.
Problem is its hard to find former players willing to do that and even harder to find unbiased ones
Hahaha that’s funny
Yes, and also being able to give yellow cards for clear dives
Like the head, shoulder, knee or... Toes
My problem with VAR is that it ruined goal celebration, now even when my team or a team im rooting for scores, i cant even celebrate cause im like "its gonna get disallowed for some reason" and even if they confirm it the moment has gone
yeah i know right
Nothing can be done about that
For the offside I think the feet suggestion is good.
Another option would be that if you can't tell wether someone is offside without bringing out the lines, he's onside
Your option will just lead to even more subjectivity and therefore even more debate over whether someone was clearly offside or not, not to mention the fact that the camera often isn't directly in line with the defense line meaning it would be near impossible for var to tell offsides without using lines
@@thesuomi8550 you might have a point there. However I would think that for vast majority of the armpit offsides, a high amount of fans would have said "onside"
@@youngstars4144 sure, but without the lines it's really difficult to tell and kinda takes away the whole point of using var for offsides most of the time
@@thesuomi8550 yeah, good point.
The biggest problem is not overturning wrong referee decisions calling offsides by a toenail and giving soft penalties
soft penalties isn't a result of VAR though, it's a result of the ridiculous hand-ball rule change by people who have clearly never played the game
Which isn't caused by VAR but I suppose thanks to VAR there are more chances to make those infuriating marginal calls. As another note, has FIFA stopped calling simulation? Without at least that small risk it almost always make sense to dive.
I completely agree with everything here. Very realistic and overall practical. My dad and I have been saying go by the feet since they brought it in cause it seems like the most obvious, simplest and fairest rule.
Something that needs to be taken into account when tweaking the offside rule is whether it makes it more difficult for the on-field linesman to tell offsides. Having separate offside rules for var games and non-var games surely isn't what you'd want
English Referees are simply terrible. That Patrick Bamford offside for pointing where he wanted the ball to be was ridiculous, and Mike Dean + Michael Oliver are two of the worst referees ever
Great clip, thank you. Here are my proposed improvements:
1. The only goal should be to get the correct decision (not "to help referees", or anything else).
2. For offsides, I agree with the proposal in this clip.
3. Rely more on VAR, since it is clearly more accurate than the on-field referee most of the time. Use two VARs: if they are in agreement, overrule the on-field referee; if not, don't overrule him. Expand the use of VAR to cover decisions on yellow cards.
4. Recruit and train people that have the right skills (e.g. from esports) and remove those that don't.
5. Implement VAR in The Championship to expand the pool of VARs and so that VARs can be promoted and relegated based on their performance.
6. The officials should produce a library of exemplars showing video footage and stating what the (official) correct decision is and giving a full rationale. This library should be shared openly on CZcams and other platforms, so that all fans can understand how their team's games should be refereed.
7. Explore, together with stakeholders, how rules and their interpretation should be developed regarding controversial areas, such as penalty kicks.
8. Cooperate with officials from other countries to develop shared understanding for how international tournaments should be refereed.
I’ve been entertaining the idea of the VAR only being relied upon on request from the coach, I think this is done in other sports as well such as Basketball and Tennis, the coach will be able to challenge calls x amount of times per game, and if they are proven right, they can have another challenge. I think this would stop the constant stopping of the game and by reducing how many times the VAR needs to intervene there will be fewer problematic calls
@@MrLeathercouch In basketball teams score 100 and more points. Even if all of them are three pointers, it is still more then 30 successful attacks per team. In Football games are often decided by one successful attack in whole game so to limit use of VAR to be called upon by coach even if for 4 or 5 times per game wouldn't be solution.
Tennis is individual sport and cant be really used as an example on how to referee team sport with 22 players on field
8 minute 1 second = respect
For offsides, I still come back to how MLS did it years ago where if it was close it was given the eye test of the ref being called over to the monitor to look at it. Were there still debates? Yes, but they were still done with the understanding that it was very close and there wasn't this kind of frustration over decisions and whatnot. Going in and examining pixels is far too pedantic. If you can't tell they are offsides with trained eyes... tie goes to the attacker. Having so many decisions just be made by a ref not at the game means they are no longer an assistant but instead another head ref
It once was the rule pre VAR times that you can only be offside with your feet, I never understood why that was changed as well.
All they need to do is copy the model of TMO used in rugby as how many TMO complaints do you hear
Pvs documentaries are amazing
offside calls for var should become obvious errors/ become like an eye test. If the best view available doesn't convince var that the call made on field was wrong within a short reasonable period, than the original call should stay. Then get rid of the line drawing technology so everyone can respect the call and get on with the game
I think offside is easily fixed by eliminating line drawing. If you can't tell with the naked eye then it's onside as there's no clear and obvious advantage gained
Good analysis. I especially liked your solution to the offside rule.
This solution was provided by Aresene wenger
@@RSB413 I was obviously talking about the solution Pato mentions right after he goes through Wenger's (non)-solution.
id on the jacket auba is wearing at 4:25 please
As suggested its here to stay and its newly introduce so some ups and down will be there but I think VAR is fair and legit. On the issue of offside leg or feet or both should be the line not the body, but everything depend on rule maker. I think overrule the referee decision should be on time limitation, bias or uncertain decision should be challenge by the manager with limited number, if its fault the challenge stand, if it is wrong the number of challenges decrease.
I think VAR needs to change to a review system where each team can elect once each half to review a decision made by the referee. I feel that this will improve the flow of the game while also adding a new dimension a tactics to the game
They should have an appeal system like in cricket or tennis. Each team gets for example 3 appeals a match where if they feel that there is a handball or free kick incident that isn’t given they can challenge var to have a look
3 per team is too many. I say 1 per team per game. If really needed, another one for the officials. If the challenges has been exhausted.
We go back to pre VAR times. Solves a lot of problems really.
Also ditch the lines. Ref should just eyeball it. It will automatically have a margin of error. Viewers at home don't use lines anyway.
Your feet should have to behind the furthest back part of defender
I've always felt that games should be reviewed after the match for things like diving and fouls that went unpunished. When caught, since it was not during a game, a hefty fine should be applied or egregious enough, suspensions.
I kinda like this.
I don't understand why the 10cm( I would even suggest 20cm) line won't work for the off-side rule. Just draw a thicker line starting from the closest part to the goal of the defender's body and if any part of the attacker's body goes beyond that line, it's off-side. Boom, simple. 10/20 cm surely cannot be categorized as an armpit or shoe size off-side.
Sum up:
VAR: A suggest tech for spotting "dirty trick"
Problem:
Too slow, the VAR decision is made after the goal is scored.
The viewer and the players of the match can not see what happen in the VAR, which made them feel blind and unsastify (If a player come near VAR, the referee will push him back the the field.)
Referee does not give out any conclusion or explanation, they just run to escape the question -> made the decision seem unfair and match fixing.
Suggestion:
Improve the speed of decision with tech to create line, image in real time, when a player cross off field immediately a red line of the foot crossing the defender line should appear and the VAR assistant will call out an off-field decision in 5 sec.
Improve the clearance of the decision by showing exactly the dialog and video of them in a large screen of the match, the referee needs to explain detail of situation and why they made that decision.
Var can work it just needs to be used properly, efficiently and the rules need to be adjusted
Wasn’t wengers proposal of offside referring to what the attacker scored with not just any part that they can score with?
The line drawing is the main problem. Impossible to get right so why not take a snapshot from an assistant refs point of view and make a call. Quickly
Get rid of the lines with Offsides. If it isn’t noticeable on a first glance whether a player is onside or not then they should be onside.
Cricket has been doing VAR right for the last 20 years. Just give the off-pitch referees more power
how about offsides being judged by the attackers front foot. this would end being offside by an arm or by leaning offside.
Hand ball rule fixed
1.Did the ball travel more than 2 meters? (maybe 1m)
Yes (continue)
No, not hand ball
2. Are the players arms in a position consistent with their momentum (aka for balance) (use frames leading up to contact as reference)
Yes, continue
No, it is handball
3. Did the player have time to react to move their arm position? (0.7seconds) speed can be calculated using the ball position frame by frame
Yes continue
No, not hand ball
4.If the ball had travelled more than 2ms, the player had time to react but it struck their arms in a natural position.
It is hand ball.
(a harsher decision, but it allows for players making mistakes. And if I have time to move my arm but knew it was close enough to a natural position I'd probably get away with it, I'd be more inclined to try and cheat and leave my arm in the way. This rule stops that.)
5. If the arms are flat to the body, and the ball would have struck the body had the arms not been there,
it is not handball.
Am I the only one that thinks the offside VAR implementation is completely fine? Offside is offside so if that means someone's toe is offside then fair enough, I get it's frustrating to see those decisions get made but if you look at it objectively I really don't think there's anything wrong with it
they need to make var like TMO in rugby where you can hear and see what they going on about
I think VAR should consider how the ball was played. If a player scores with their foot but their head was offside, then not an offside. If they scored with their head then it is offside
I think examples of handballs such as the Hudson odoi one vs united shouldnt even be looked at no players or officials on the pitch even considered a penalty
Just bring from outside simple. Bundesliga are doing much better job. Also they need to bring proper rules because everyone are taking their own take
There should be 3 VAR officials who review decision independently. They should not know what the on-field call was, or what each other officials choice was. They see the event and make their own call. If all three make a call different from the on-field official, the call is overturned. If 2 disagree with the on-field official, the on-field official goes to review the call on the monitor. If one or less disagree, the on-field decision stands.
Wenger's got the idea!
The offside dilemma is simple. There is no need to change the rule, as it works great... Ban digital tools. That way the armpit offsides will have to be determined as inconclusive, as an offside cannot be 100% determined, and the ruling on the field will have to stand! Am I insane for thinking that will solve any problems?
I don’t think the rule should just apply to feet. It should apply to whichever part of the body the person scores with. E.G a header should be measured from a head.
I thought VAR was only supposed to be used for a CLEAR and OBVIOUS error. If the offside is NOT clear and obvious then it should go in favour of the attacker. This would mean they wouldn’t even have to draw lines for offside.
But any part onside in stead of any part offside will have the exact same issues
In EPL VAR is great if you compared with La Liga
I have a small question to man utd . Why is man utd targeting Grealish when man utd need a right winger? . Why didn't we sell Lindelof ? . If man utd buy Grealish and Sancho then we may have many chances to win a pl title and the ucl .
Never understand the people who want VAR to be scrapped. The problem are the people using it. A referee running around for 90 minutes with a 140 BPM cannot monitor all the players on the pitch and make correct decisions every time, literally impossible. Technology is the future of sport.
I know I'm biased but that Pepe and Pieters situation is the worst post var decision I've ever seen, my girlfriend has never seen a football match and she could tell the ref how to do his job
You should make a video about how the role of the assistant ref is no longer needed. They don’t call fouls because they don’t want to over step the referee and var is taking away their rule on offsides
The way rugby does it seems like it works
The ref shouldn't have the final say on a ruling, how is it fair that someone who doesn't have a view on something from multiple angles of the incident. The var should just tell the ref if it was a foul and not ask him to check and decide
How about Var officials cant pause the video when judging offside decisions. No drawing silly lines that might not even be straight. If it looks offside in however many replays they watch, then it is offside, and vice-versa. They are overcomplicating it. Yes, there will be tight calls but officials had to make those decisions before, just this time they have the help of the technology to make it.
Please do a piece on soft penalties something should be cut out from the game
How to fix VAR: *outro starts playing*
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If a bit of your knee or arm is ahead of the last defender, it shouldn’t be an offside. That would encourage attackers to actually make runs at the defense. It should be an offside if there’s a decent proportion of a body part ahead of the defender otherwise it’s too easy for the attacker . Also stick to the rules, stop giving penalties just cuz a same situation happened before and a penalty was given unfairly.
Honestly I’d like it better if they only used it for when the ball crosses the line whether it’s out of play or into the goal.
Is it wrong for me to think teams should just not let it come down to a var decision. Like just be better. If you lose because of a var decision you probably didn't deserve to win and should go train more. Or what do yall think?
Remove the lines for offsides. Mic up the refs and put replays up on the big screen. Been like this for years in rugby and it works, still controversial decisions but the ref and TMO(VAR) get the chance to explain there decion to better education the fans of the rules.
Scrap it its so perplexing
Can we just accept the fact that humans aren’t able to stop the footage precisely enough to make VAR offsides.
First ban weed from the VAR room and all the problems will be fixed
People will always banter about it.
I just think it’s so much easier and the majority of fans will like it better if VAR is just scrapped
When VAR was introduced I expected players to dive a lot less but that doesn't seem to be the case.
They call it a 'Contact Sport' but honestly... Come on... These 'top professional athletes' fall down and cry more than an infant trying to learn how to walk.
I think that the problem is the fans, look at TMO people don’t mind if something gets overturned they know it’s correct, they don’t mind waiting, football fans need to change their kindest
EASY I WILL BECOME THE VAR ASSISTANT
Var is a shambles
A bit harsh on the pundits in the intro... however, TV and media 'experts' do need to do a better job of explaining the rules / VAR. For example, the 'clear and obvious' definition is only valid in some scenarios
Get rid of it
VAR should just show the ref the footages instead of making the decision themselves.
VAR needs binning, not fixing!
I agree with Arsene Wenger
Yeah the feet only being offside would cause even more cotroverse as some may score a header and be offside i do think that you should only be offside with any other part of your body like the head only if you make a connection with the header in an offside position
Hire competent officials.
People forget how bad refs were before VAR
My offside rule would be that both feet have to be onside. I don't care if your arm, heat, or knee is offside.
Offside only measured at feet and VAR allowed to overrule referees rather than yet another subjective opinion about "clear & obvious".
Random story but I started to full asleep half way through this video while singing head shoulders knees and toes .
If you asked me VAR should be scrapped, it ruined our beloved game and its halting the play even more, football was fine, yes there were mistakes but it evens out sometimes in your favor sometimes against you, ref mistakes should be accepted as part of the game and they're still here anyways its not like VAR eliminated them
Nothing wrong with Var it’s the officials that use it and the rules which give it a bad rep
how about a challenge system like they do in tennis
VAR should be used similarly to how video review is used in the NFL and NBA. Coaches should get a “challenge” where if they disagree with a call made on the field, they notify the fourth official who then tells the ref, then the incident at hand gets reviewed at the next dead ball. This keeps the flow of the game intact, and adds a sense of gameplay to VAR. And simply limit the number of “challenges” a coach can use to 1 per half, or 1 per game, whatever is thought to to be best.
How about let the referee have discretion and allow a team only a number of reviews to use var...like in cricket say 3 reviews per team in a 90min match
No lines, VAR was supposed to be there for "clear and obvious fouls" if you cant workout if its offside without lines its not a clear and obvious and foul and you go with the decision of the linesman
How to fix VAR? Somehow someway internally change the FA to a less archaic and arrogant firm. If this was the case then the FA would've just looked at where VAR has worked around the world and implemented their rules here rather than making up a whole list of new rules, most of which are the rules that are causing so many problems. Next step, sack off the current refs and hire some refs from the continent. The standard of English officiating is so low comparative to the rest of Europe that we should just bite the bullet and bring some in from the rest of Europe. Next, clear and obvious error is very subjective for when a behind the scenes check should occur. VAR should check everything internally and tell the ref or recommend a review for the most important and big decisions if they see a legitimate issue. Next, have refs look at the screens a la BuLI. Next, offsides that are checked retrospectively by VAR should be checking if the goal scoring part of the body is obviously offside, not pits and nails, obvious body parts. If the goal was a header check the head, if it's a shot check the feet, if it's a fluke one off the chest check the chest. In situations where a goal hasn't been scored, let the linesmen do their jobs. This is especially key after the Patricio injury where if the linesman had been allowed to do his job and called the offside then Patricio wouldn't have been inured. Pens, if the defender has made a challenge (tackle, barge, hold, pull etc) and has not ended up with the ball then it's a penalty. Handball, outside the natural position BASED ON THE SITUATUION, MOVEMENT OR PLAYER. Raheem sterling and N'golo Kante have runs where their arms go out in front of them. If a ball hits them during motion whilst they are running that is not their fault. If a player is jumping and they swing their arms for elevation and it hits them, that isn't hand ball. If a player is a couple of yards away from the defender and he just blasts it and the defender hasn't got time to move his hand that isn't hand ball. The player needs to be given a reasonable time frame for him to be able to move his hand before it's deffo a handball. Also, VAR should overturn second yellows, they're still reds. Finally, the FA should stop protecting their refs so hard. Refs should be accountable if they get it wrong. If refs seemed accountable or apologetic I doubt they'd receive nearly as much abuse as they do now because people would get it. Refs should be miced up and refs should give post match interviews. Badly performing players have to so why shouldn't refs.
imo i think refs should always go check the screen no matter what
The feet only is the best option as it's called football, you can't score with your bloody armpit unless you're Maradona he could score sitting on the bench ⚽⚽⚽⚽
Try and explain it to an alien. Bit of a thought exercise.
Set a time limit for non-dangerous var checks, if it can’t be checked in X amount of time it can’t be a clear and obvious mistake so should stay with refs decision
The problem tho is that it could force the refs to make a decision they're unsure about so they could easily get it wrong
Offsides should be done by eye only, if it’s not obvious without the lines, it’s not a clear and obvious mistake so should stay wuth on field decision
For me in order to fix VAR I think you have to make it more of an appeal situation like they have in tennis. The most annoying thing for VAR in my opinion is that 50% of the time the team the decision goes for aren't even complaining about the original decision. Also VAR want to get involved with everything which is what leads to these ridiculous offside and handball calls. For example when Josh Maja scored against spurs none of the spurs players were complaining at the time he scored, and when Mane was a toenail offside against everton earlier in the season yet again the everton players weren't even complaining. If you give each team one or two appeals per game not only would it get rid of all the ridiculous decisions, but it would also make VAR a bit entertaining for the fans, like in tennis.
Teams would end up appealing stuff just for the sake of it, like if someone scored a last minute winner they’d appeal it even if there’s nothing to appeal, then there’s a var check searching for a reason to disallow it so
Here is an idea: For an player to be offside he has to be a clear foot offside. So if you can not see space between the end off the deffenders foot and the attackers heel than the forward is onside, only feet counts. It's football 😅
Get better refs. Simple
Scrap it altogether, complete waste of time that results in the same poor decisions however it now takes referees five minutes to reach said awful decisions. Also has completely removed all the excitement of scoring a goal
It's the incompetent English ref's are the problem. Cl and other leagues have implemented var perfectly.
What VAR has done is expose how poor our referees actually are, even more so when they make rules that stop thier poor decisions being overturned to save face which actaully only serve to further expose just how poor they really are at their job
3:23 wrong, wrong, wrong! The law was changed drastically in 1990. Do your research properly so that you know your history!
How to fix VAR........... get rid of it
Never understand the people who want VAR to be scrapped. The problem are the people using it. A referee running around for 90 minutes with a 140 BPM cannot monitor all the players on the pitch and make correct decisions every time, literally impossible. Technology is the future of sport.
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Hire Germans or clone Pierluigi Collina