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Hello, love your videos and I am always fascinated about the D&D world, but as someone who just started to dive into this world I'm curious are there any Chinese/Japanese/Korean dragons in it or are all of them European dragons, I'm just curious of course and if there aren't any who knows maybe you can make one, could be interesting.
If we're on a dragon roll, I will throw one more for Dragons of Savage Coast - Crimson Dragon, Red Hawk Dragon and Ferlon (Ferlón? My keyboard doesn't support correct kind of o).
The Anglerlich, and giant otherworldly fish that creates a BBEG for the players to fight and eventually defeat, only to consume them at their peak of heroism!
Have you ever considered making a thing of the items that can be crafted from dragon parts? Potions made from dragons blood, weapons hilted in dragon bone, armour from dragon scales etc.. It could be fun coming up with the different minor abilities that each type of dragon imparts into those items ^^
Rust dragons are already canon. They're planar dragons that are native to Acheron. It's implied that part of the rust monsters' life cycle is finding their way to Acheron, where they transform into rust dragons. You can see where this idea comes from as rust dragons have insect like antennae and wings like a dragonfly. For more information, check out the Acheron section in the 2E Planescape supplement "Planes of Law".
Ultimate play of the steel dragon that just had it's museum leveled by a red dragon: "You... Y'know what, I know where there's a sleeping Iron Dragon. I think I'll just hire me a mercenary by telling her where you are."
I like the idea of the younger iron dragons doing the hit and run and spy stuff, until they complete thr rite of passage of killing a red dragon in single combat, thus proving their strength and right to come out of the shadows
Honestly, a fun plot point for the Iron Dragon would be a variant on the classic "Princess is kidnapped by a dragon" plotline, but she got kidnapped because her nation committed some horrific war crime under her orders, and the Iron Dragon has kidnapped her to put her on trial in front of a jury of the other Iron Dragons in its colony. Maybe after the party realize why the princess was taken, the Iron Dragons recruit them to be the humanoid side of the jury and help with determining the verdict?
that would seem more along the metallic dragons way of going about things. these guys would probably just be like "look at the pions, fighting all their pitiful lives for scraps of an " empire"
@@MiniCerberus991 Yeah... _unless_ (plot twist) the princess *_is_* a ferrous dragon, & the trial is for siding with shortlives, by contesting one of her harsher sibling's territorial claims.
I like the idea that the Dwarves and the Iron Dragon have a mutual relationship. Any gold or other rare metals found is given to the Dwarven miners, while Iron is given to the dragon. And in turn they keep the lair guarded/always are searching for any information on Chromatic dragons to relay to the Iron Dragon. Naturally the Iron Dragon would be somewhat uncaring of their issues and such, simply seeing them as creatures that have chosen a way to adapt that benefits the dragon greatly. And the Dwarves are happy because they literally have a massive living tunnel maker.
ore many mini tunnel munchers because that iron was female and had some young, and in return for not having to worry about the little ones the dwarves get a useful aid, intreturn for mostly using mitheral or somethin
Could also see the Dwarves as an opportunity to practice rulership and Lawmaking. A kingdom of Dragons would never get off the ground, but an empire of Dragon-Kings would. Also opens the door for better meshing with the 4th ED lore as well as the Xorvintaal variant of dragons from FR.
I love that idea! Just imagining a Dwarven city where all the metal (Hinges, door knobs, nails, hammers, window lining, etc etc) is inexplicably made with gold or copper, due to their agreement with the Iron Dragon
I'm sorry, when you brought up Gruaghlothor's near immortality I couldn't help but think of this: Inquisitive Wyrmling: "Did you die?!" Gruaghlothor: "Sadly yes, but I lived!"
What if Steel Dragons ARE ferrous dragons that were driven into exile. Their culture of blending in with humanity started as a necessity for their survival, and they eventually just came to like humans after spending so much time with them.
I was thinking something similar, except that instead of being former iron dragons, they're one of the 'exiled' species. Basically, the steel dragons decided that they actually liked humanoids, shifted to a viewpoint more aligned with traditional metallic dragons, and defected into that camp. Would also explain why, in at least some versions, steel dragons are said to be LN with LG tendencies, when metallics are normally Something Good. Could also raise the possibility that some other dragon types come from exiled species. (I think one setting, might have been Dragonlance, had the idea that the chromatics were originally metallic, but when they turned evil along with Takhisis, their scales turned into the colour of the corrosion of that metal, thus becoming chromatics, so could even play with this to make some of the chromatic variants into former ferrous types.)
@@Draxynnic Oh yeah, I wasn’t implying that they were former iron dragons, I was branching off his statement that half of the ferrous species disappeared or were exiled. Also you got some great ideas of your own!
At least some of them also tend to be found in the same ores, IIRC. While copper, silver and gold tend to also be found in common deposits (which accounts for the core metallic dragons, since bronze and brass are alloys of copper). I'd be inclined to attribute the ferrous grouping to alloys, though. The idea would be that they're all part iron, but only the iron dragons are 'pure', and that's the ideological justification for why irons are the ruling caste. The others are mixes of iron and some other metal, and they're identified by what the other metal is.
The Iron Dragon disapproves of your wrinkled clothes. It appeals to their lawful nature keeping all things in order. You can often find them polymorphed as a human form running a laundry or dry cleaning business. Their breath weapon can blast clothing with a cone effect of adjustable temperature steam. Once per day Iron Dragons can alter their breath with starch to fight the most difficult unruly fabrics. Ferrous Dragons are therefore often at odds with Fabric Dragons, especially Silk, Cotton and Linen varieties for their Chaotic leanings. Many tales speak of terrible early morning battles between Iron Dragons and their Fabric cousins, beginning with the bellowed challenge "damn wrinkles, I'll be late for work" and a retort of "you ain't the boss of me!" Side note: Polyester Dragons are an unnatural creature created by Thayan wizards. They are not true Fabric Dragons but their scales can be used to craft a powerful artifact known as the Red Leisure Suit of Destiny. Many a Thayan pimp covers these robes for they do not wrinkle easily, resist stains or moth attacks and make a player character look like a... well, true player.
Let's keep it both lore friendly and realistic. Ferrous dragons are not ranked in their society by species, but by iron impurities. "Oh, Frank the nickle dragon has a 6.4% iron impurity content? Guess he'll be mayor."
As a DM, I honestly need to thank you for how many missions, one shots and even full on campaigns you've inspired. Really good work out their and thanks for inspiring me to be a better Dm.
In my mind I already see a campaign focused issue where Mind Flayers have provided Iron dragons with plans or directions to attack a massive gathering place of red dragon eggs, a Githyanki stronghold. Turning Iron Dragons against the Githyanki and having the party try to prevent 2-3 genocides over the course of the conflict could be terrifying and awesome. Can’t wait for the rest of the Ferrous Dragons.
Man, does it ever feel like _everything_ turns into genocide? I suppose D&D 5e doesn't lend itself to dedicating a whole session to preventing anyone from spilling wine on the rugs or furniture. If I wanted a chill time with low stakes, I guess a system where Invisibility & Pass Without Trace are both 2nd level spells, might not be the best place for me to start.
These dragons sounds like they would get along very well with the Hellknights from the Paizoverse. I can definetly see a group of Hellknights hunting the players on behalf of an iron dragon.
reminded me of hellknights too. Like dad mentioned a band of iron knights, lawful neutral, but with an emphasis on might and strength. they make a good combo, could definitely be adapted for 5e. Again basically what dad said; a band of knights devoted to the iron dragon supreme and their empire, maybe they get some clerics and "paladins" or warlocks in addition to generic fighter footmen. A lawful order, not outright malicious, but will do basically anything commanded of them or in service to the ferrous empire. They act as relatively minor agents in mortal affairs for the ferrous, perhaps mainly exist to battle and combat chromatic dragon cultists. Perhaps the ferrous dragons see them as expendable toys and cannon fodder, or maybe they actually value the conviction and lawful nature of these followers and actually value them as loyal pets, a bit like a man and his dog. Lots of interesting homebrew ideas to explore there.
@@GomulDartThere is definetly material for a homebrew Hellknight order if playing within Golarion or the Pact Worlds setting. The ferrous dragons also feel much more at home with the setup of Triaxus over the metalics too. They are very interesting and are the ones covered so far I feel have more meat for a campaign around them.
I don't see why one couldn't just package both the original and 4e lore for this dragon. Since Iron Dragons have a whole society, it wouldn't be too farfetched to think that some of them might become hunters, assassins, or spies!
I like the idea that, since the eras in which 2e & then 3.5 were set, by the 4e era Ferrous dragons had been so nearly eradicated that most of those who remained were reclusive & adept at subterfuge. By 5e they might be all but unknown, perhaps having formed a hidden society among lesser species with the tacit approval of some metallics.
A lot of what makes the lore so different in 4th Edition is 4th Edition used Eberron as its primary setting, and Eberron had very different dragon lore from the other settings.
@@MogofWar 4e didn't use any setting as it prime setting. There was the 'points if light' idea, but actually most of what it was wanting to do was for it to be 'setting agnostic'. So not muddy a DM's own lore for their homebrew setting. As most DMs used homebrew settings.
@zacharyhawley1693 I get why people don't like 4e both from its lore and mechanics, but like not everything in that edition was hot garbage y'know. Like Orium dragons are cool as hell, and dungeon dad should seriously do a video on them.
or or ORE there are a group of dwarves have that work with Iron dragons their mines are its lair. The dwarves get red dragon repellent, keep any ore that isnt iron (they might get a small percentage), they basically get a giant drill, a way to find a mineral rich place to make a mine And a security system for their new home. The dragon gets a fucking castle of a lair, its food, hoard grows with out it needing to do much work and a city of people with the best weapons possible to defend it and its kin. You could even add that a young iron dragon leaving its parent's nest takes a caravan of dwarves with it to find a place to start a new lair/mine that becomes a satellite for the iron dragon family to expand their kingdom.
Don't use iron dragons. They use a long spanding network of information that will end horribly for your players. Even fully level 20 adventurers could not survive an iron dragon onslaught.
"Both dragon types not killing each other on sight is considered treasonous for both sides" My brain, immediately: Romeo and Juliette dragon Romeo and Juliette please now please i need this
@maximespinosa6931 that's fair but I believe in them ...also now I have the scenario of everyone else *not* being a dragon in my head and that sounds incredible. Totally unrelated from the original prompt. But I want to see that story very badly now.
If you feel like the dragon well is running dry, consider this a casual reminder that planar dragons (species native to the outer planes) are very much a thing. 😉
Definitely not running dry. There's four pages of dragons on the suggestion list. And that's only covering the ones people absolutely want to see covered.
and that's not even getting into the fact that we can just make new kinds of dragons. like make a type of dragon for every kind of gemstone there is for example, is anyone up for chatting with a diamond dragon or maybe an alexandrite dragon?
Personally I like my idea of the thunder roar and friction/sparks based force breath. I wanted a true cross between metallic and chromatic with not only breath weapons but color showing this off. Now with the idea of ferrous dragons it seems I might try making even more dragons with technically not breath attacks like the thunder roar.
The Ferrous Dragons are just... such a wild outlier to the idea of the dragon family. It'd be like gem dragons suddenly popping out of the ether on someone who hasn't been hanging around since 5th ed and then finding Fizban's Treasury of Dragons for the first time.
Gonna make an Iron Dragon executioner for a dwarf kingdom under a mountain and a Human kingdom in the valley nearby. Using flesh to iron on prisoners brought before it, to function as tribute of iron to the dragon.
Given that the Githyanki and Red Dragons have a working relationship, it would be interesting to see a situation where a group of Githyanki at war with a clan of iron dragons who have been harassing them to take out their draconic mounts
What if the Githzerai made a similar deal with the Iron Dragons? Given that Zerai and Yanki hate each other with just as much passion. Zerai aren't as warlike which might annoy Iron Dragons, but they hate the people who ride red dragons so... maybe 🤔
@@myheartismadeofstars They ARE both lawful neutral! I feel like they'd have a pretty different Thing going on personally, especially since they have very different philosophies within their alignment. Maybe more of just a non-aggression or mutual defense thing? Iron dragons might want tools which provide psionic protection against the Githyanki, and would probably not mind a convenient cluster of their enemies (as in an attack on the Githzerai) making the hunt more efficient... VERY interesting thought. Thank you for letting me think about this again half a year later! ^v^
@@avitraangelica9278 I think "my enemy of my enemy" is a perfectly acceptable dynamic for them. We know for a FACT that Githzerai WANT a dragon partnership (tried it with Chaos Dragons of all things) and Iron Dragons make more sense!! It's too bad that it seems like the Githzerai can reproduce just fine in Limbo, otherwise I'd suggest Iron Dragons guard their Creches, in exchange the Githzerai show them some form of servitude and help them hunt Githyanki and Red Dragons. Or even a "you protect our eggs, we'll protect yours" type dynamic.
As someone who runs a campaign in a heavily-inspired dark sun world I love the mentions to it. I plan on doing that (rather unoriginal now) idea of putting the infernal machines from Avernus in the world to really rep that Mad Max lifestyle. Using an iron dragon (or something as powerful as one as dark sun's "not supposed to have dragons") could be a nice way to make that fit. Long-winded comment but overall, thanks for the dark sun attention and the continued, high quality videos
I plan on adding iron dragons to the rise of Tiamat module as a potential ally to the party simply to slay some reds and potentially help in the fight against Tiamat
I feel like the heat metal lair action could have an alternate use- instead of targeting a party member, it could target all iron not being worn, making 'danger zones' the party could have to avoid in order to be more tactical in combat- don't stand on the iron. Plus having a multitude of entire iron statues literally glow red whenever the dragon gets mad is a killer visual.
There is a dragon empire in my setting, but the sovereign of the empire is a Solar Dragon (the Pathfinder version). I'm thinking these guys will make a great police/ covert ops force.
Have you ever made any of your own Monsters for D&D? Perhaps you could feature those as well and or take ideas from your viewers, who I'm sure have and would be willing to share
The mention of coming into contact with Dwarves and maybe striking a deal gave me an idea with the rest of the Iron Dragons' lore: A group of dwarven miners stumble across a sealed chamber, in which lies a heavily wounded Iron Dragon, who barely survived its clan being torn apart by a particularly old and powerful Red Dragon who has also been terrorizing the rest of the local lands off and on for centuries. The dwarves start nursing the Iron Dragon back to health, caring for its wounds and listening to its story. When a group of invaders from the Underdark (perhaps illithids or something else especially nasty and rapacious) come to try raiding the dwarves for slaves/meals, the Iron Dragon moves to save its saviours, as is only lawfully correct to do. Afterwards, the dwarves adopt the Iron Dragon into their city as an honorary member of the clan, accept its grudges as their own and it accepts and adds *their* grudges to its own. Some two or three hundred years later, the dwarves are getting ready to march on the Red Dragon with a full force, and just need a group of skilled adventurers to pre-check the mountain and lair of the vicious and ancient Red Wyrm to make sure the army doesn't march into a trap meant for either them or their Iron Dragon grand elder. Rewards: a minor share of the Red's loot, and the amiability of this large and prosperous clan of dwarves led in part by a powerful Iron Dragon.
Cabal Stomp playing in the background feels very fitting for these dragons given their imperial nature and use of supreme size and force to keep others in line.
While I do find the fact that those dragons arent metallic dragons despit literally being named after metals to be pretty weird, those ferrous dragons are pretty interesting. Now I wonder if they have a chaotic counterpart llike with chromatics and metallics.
@@prophetzarquon1922 Worth keeping in mind that in 4e, pretty much all 'good' monsters had unaligned in the statblock because it was assumed that PCs wouldn't be fighting the good ones. So most mercury dragons were probably still Good, but those the PCs fought were obviously Unaligned because if they weren't, they wouldn't be fighting! (There's about a gajillion problems with this logic, but that was the 4E logic.)
@@GomulDart Indeed, or at least generally on the side of good. I think they did also encourage DMs to modify statblocks as appropriate, and even class features, so a bit of houseruling for evil campaigns was encouraged. (I do recall, for instance, advice about switching radiant damage to necrotic for the skills of evil paladins and clerics.)
Not sure how relevant this is to other worlds, but according to the forgotten realms, "Ferrous dragons have more iron concentrations in their blood." which is also stated as the reason they can sense nonprecious metals. This might be the (lore-wise) reason for them being called ferrous Dragons instead of just because irons are the biggest, though if it is or not isn't specifically stated.
Always good when Dungeon Dad covers a forgotten dragon from older editions. Loving the idea of ferrous dragons though I'm not huge on them being completely separate from regular metallic dragons for some reason. Despite that, I think it's still at least a good way to surprise your players if they think all metallics are good guys by default!
I think an interesting way for these dragons to try and rebuild. Their empire is by controlling the distribution of iron economically because if they have it all and people still want to buy it, they could make a business agreement and they could make them very powerful.
My one concern about adding so many dragon species to a D&D world - and especially dragon species that live in communities - is that it really feels like, at some point, dragons will become so ridiculously common that everyone's entire existence is defined by them. Each dragon species has to have a large enough population to sustain itself, considering how low their reproductive rates are, and if you want one species of dragon to be 'rare' the other species have to have much larger populations by comparison. And unless dragons spend most of their time hibernating (which maybe they do) they're going to need to eat a LOT to sustain themselves, so at that point the world might as well be ruled by dragons. I guess the game is literally called Dungeons & *Dragons* so this shouldn't be surprising, but IDK, I've always thought of dragons being pretty rare creatures as-is. Also why aren't my bois the Tungsten dragons the most powerful Ferrous dragons, Tungsten is dope >:p
I really appreciate hearing the Super Mario RPG remake soundtrack in here, and REALLY love hearing the DRG soundtrack right when you started discussing dwarven relations
I can imagine a scenario where an iron dragon makes its nest somewhere where there also happens to be a population of rust monsters, and the dragon ends up having to deal with these damn things constantly finding their way into its hoard and eating its treasure, and no matter how many it kills or turns to iron, more just keep coming thanks to the absolute buffet of iron to rust and consume that the dragon keeps accumulating
A high-level party working with Iron Dragons to uproot the Purple Dragon Mafia and expunge their kind from the continent would be one hell of a campaign.
So happy to see this video! I'm gonna be playing a homebrew iron dragonborn barbarian in an upcoming campaign. He's got lightning breath and will get the metallic dragon sleeping breath further down the line, plus he can always sense the location of true north. And he's path of the beast, flavored as his own tail/claws/wings growing rather than traditional "bestial" features. I really can't wait to play him!
Maybe the cloak and dagger approach are the tactics employed by the cult you talked about, it can add a bit of variety in the ways the antagonists (or allies) act
I know you're currently working on ferrus dragons, but I can't wait for when you begin to cover gem dragons! Especially the Obsidian Dragon; I'm currently creating Shadow Dragon variants of the different life stages of the Obsidian Dragon for a future campaign. Love your work, keep being you!
I know this is probably not in your current video template, but it would be really cool to have an overview of the whole dragon family. I get glimpses of them from each dragon video you produce, and it's really interesting. Would be amazing to have it all in one place! Love your videos :)
Whelp, another potential menu item for my homebrewed Forge Wasps in their "colonization" phase, or potential ally, if an Iron dragon can direct them toward a red dragon or other chromatic dragon with a substantial metal horde. Aside from that, I'm really loving these guys, and their breathe weapon being fire and electric is a simplified version of how I see a purple dragon's 3 breaths working (cone is 2 fire to 1 lightning, line is 2 lightning to 1 fire, and the penetrating bolt of explosive doom is 1 fire to 1 lightning). I'm also loving the warlock patron and half dragon transformation ideas (particularly because I was recently looking up some dragon patron warlock homebrews for ideas). And, on a sode tangent to that, imagine an amethyst dragon draconic shard being the patron of a hexbladr warlock. You literally have your patron inhabiting a crystal shard attached to your sword
I don't know much about your homebrew Forge Wasps, but my gut tells me you may wanna look up Ferlon, which is basically a Wasp Dragon that lays eggs in humanoids.
@IdiotinGlans oooo, that sounds interesting. I'll be sure to look it up. If you want, I could tell you about my Forge Wasps. I have a whole Google doc for them and a stat block made thanks to the wonderful people on the Dungeon Dad discord
@IdiotinGlans docs.google.com/document/d/1VeKk97ZzWpH8NaczzY5NgMgknRxjUD8IMbfSy_zd3kA/edit?usp=drivesdk here we go. Let me know of the stat block itself is legible. For the tldr: they are social flightless fire Wasps that are immune to Fire and weak to Cold, and can be rather gimmicky when fighting them. They go around gathering metal for their nests and armor, and can freely cast heat metal, including on themselves. They have a similar rocky relationship with dwarves that iron dragons have. For the colonization phase, the essentials deconstruct their metal hive, make armor and wings, and then go dragon hunting. They have a venom that ignores legendary resistances to help them. Females lay eggs that hatch into larvae that eat the dragon (alive), and then the larvae become adults and use the dragon's hoard to start a new nest
I wonder whether they would employ Iron Golems. Seems like the ideal thing you could add to your iron horde that also guards your iron horde, especially for a lawful creature that would appreciate the consistency of an emotionless mechanical defender.
I played a campaign where we had a level 30 supplement. My character (Dragonborn Wizard) ascended to become a true dragon by Nidhogg. He was an Iron Dragon, it was beyond sick. Hands down the coolest character I ever played. He was titled "The Great Iron Wyrm" - Whole party became Gods in that storyline.
Given the lore of dark sun and the process required to make a dragon I would be far more worried there is any type of dragon there than I would be in its horde.
I love the Ferrous Dragons, my personal favorite is the Cobalt Dragon. It has a magnetic breathweapon that you cannot even see, and forces a Bullrush check against everyone in the area of effect. I usually combine my other favorite monster as a half cobalt dragon. The Lodestone Marauder from 3.5 MM4 has magnetic abilities, too, so adding a magnetic breath weapon and other abilities make them crowd control beasts.
Sleepy me just had a silly idea for a Dragon in the Spell Jammer setting. It hatches in the Colossal size category, mainly for the line "That's no moon!" when a ship comes across one hatching. Because why not throw in a gratuitous Star Wars reference?
Great job as always, but I have a small criticism: I'm a little disappointed in the Iron Dragon's AC in their later age categories, in particular in their Ancient form. Their (litterally) iron-clad armored scales offer only a meager Armor Class of 19, which is the same as their regular Adult form (whilst conserving the same Dexterity score, no less) ? An Ancient Red Dragon has an AC of 23, by comparison. I wouldn't imagine the Iron Dragons' scales to be significantly weaker to that of Red Dragons, personally.
Can you make a video about Sardior? i think that would be a pretty good idea especially since he isnt weel known even tho he was the god of Gem dragons and neutral alligned dragons
Sardior is a named dragon. He doesn't do lore videos specifically. However, the ruby dragon is on the list, so Sardior will at least be brought up during that.
I think it would be interesting to classify dragons as either precious metal dragons or magnetic metal dragons to better differentiate them, and I’m wondering what the other seven species of magnetic dragon would be, including the two that are supposedly extinct
I was actually allowed to play as a bronze dragon in one campaign, when we encountered an iron dragon my guy was basically the designated diplomat, things almost went badly until he mentioned we had beef with a blue dragon and suddenly we had some powerful temporary allies in exchange for a box of ship nails and a few acts that were technically hate crimes against a squad of dwarves that were jerks to us earlier
When you said that you're going to ignore some of the fourth Edition lore All I could think of up to that point was a horse sized iron dragon. Sneaking around the same way a big dog does. It's like dude I can totally see you
Personally I find the Ferrous Dragons extremely interesting on the basis of how easily they can slot into any role you need, as a whole -- and one of the key points as to why this is comes down to how different settings handle dragons. A stock-standard clan of ferrous dragons in Forgotten Realms is going to be depicted in a very different light than if that exact same group, with no changes to them whatsoever, would be depicted in Eberron for instance.
I know it’s been a while, but the iron poisoning lair effect gave me an idea: you could use the same effect for a vampire iron dragon but reflavor it as induced anemia
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Can you do Green Dragons?
Hello, love your videos and I am always fascinated about the D&D world, but as someone who just started to dive into this world I'm curious are there any Chinese/Japanese/Korean dragons in it or are all of them European dragons, I'm just curious of course and if there aren't any who knows maybe you can make one, could be interesting.
If we're on a dragon roll, I will throw one more for Dragons of Savage Coast - Crimson Dragon, Red Hawk Dragon and Ferlon (Ferlón? My keyboard doesn't support correct kind of o).
The Anglerlich, and giant otherworldly fish that creates a BBEG for the players to fight and eventually defeat, only to consume them at their peak of heroism!
Have you ever considered making a thing of the items that can be crafted from dragon parts? Potions made from dragons blood, weapons hilted in dragon bone, armour from dragon scales etc.. It could be fun coming up with the different minor abilities that each type of dragon imparts into those items ^^
I became an adult recently and purchased a printer to print important documents like character sheets and your monster conversions.
A very proper and grown-up thing to do.
This should be an update to the details of what it means to be an adult For Everyone.
You just made me so nostalgic for my old sheets printed in Diablo's gothic font for 2e and 3.5. I miss all my old stuff.
Got a printer too for similar purpose
Lol wonderful
The existence of ferrous dragons implies the existence of the rust dragon.
A BBEG version of a rust monster that embodies entropy.
Topaz?
Kobold Press has a Rust Drake... so dragonkin?
There was a 3.5 rust dragon in the Draconomicon
Rust dragons are already canon. They're planar dragons that are native to Acheron. It's implied that part of the rust monsters' life cycle is finding their way to Acheron, where they transform into rust dragons. You can see where this idea comes from as rust dragons have insect like antennae and wings like a dragonfly. For more information, check out the Acheron section in the 2E Planescape supplement "Planes of Law".
you are evil
Ultimate play of the steel dragon that just had it's museum leveled by a red dragon: "You... Y'know what, I know where there's a sleeping Iron Dragon. I think I'll just hire me a mercenary by telling her where you are."
I love it. A _sleeping_ Iron Dragon, so who knows how old+big it is...
cool factor 10
that would be perfect.
I like the idea of the younger iron dragons doing the hit and run and spy stuff, until they complete thr rite of passage of killing a red dragon in single combat, thus proving their strength and right to come out of the shadows
This is SUCH a good idea, honestly. Keep this in mind, DMs!!
That sounds like an amazing encounter higher level parties could run into. Not necessarily a fight but certainly interesting.
It sounds to me more like a role that would've originally gone to one of the other four ferrous dragons.
Honestly, a fun plot point for the Iron Dragon would be a variant on the classic "Princess is kidnapped by a dragon" plotline, but she got kidnapped because her nation committed some horrific war crime under her orders, and the Iron Dragon has kidnapped her to put her on trial in front of a jury of the other Iron Dragons in its colony.
Maybe after the party realize why the princess was taken, the Iron Dragons recruit them to be the humanoid side of the jury and help with determining the verdict?
that would seem more along the metallic dragons way of going about things. these guys would probably just be like "look at the pions, fighting all their pitiful lives for scraps of an " empire"
@@MiniCerberus991 Yeah... _unless_ (plot twist) the princess *_is_* a ferrous dragon, & the trial is for siding with shortlives, by contesting one of her harsher sibling's territorial claims.
This but the Iron dragons are salty that her kingdom didn't commit the war crimes they ordered them to.
It's never a war crime the first time..
The princess failed to show up on time for her trial
I like the idea that the Dwarves and the Iron Dragon have a mutual relationship. Any gold or other rare metals found is given to the Dwarven miners, while Iron is given to the dragon. And in turn they keep the lair guarded/always are searching for any information on Chromatic dragons to relay to the Iron Dragon.
Naturally the Iron Dragon would be somewhat uncaring of their issues and such, simply seeing them as creatures that have chosen a way to adapt that benefits the dragon greatly. And the Dwarves are happy because they literally have a massive living tunnel maker.
very cool idea
ore many mini tunnel munchers because that iron was female and had some young, and in return for not having to worry about the little ones the dwarves get a useful aid, intreturn for mostly using mitheral or somethin
Could also see the Dwarves as an opportunity to practice rulership and Lawmaking. A kingdom of Dragons would never get off the ground, but an empire of Dragon-Kings would. Also opens the door for better meshing with the 4th ED lore as well as the Xorvintaal variant of dragons from FR.
Keeping this in my back pocket if my players ever go murderhobo in a dwarf kingdom
I love that idea!
Just imagining a Dwarven city where all the metal (Hinges, door knobs, nails, hammers, window lining, etc etc) is inexplicably made with gold or copper, due to their agreement with the Iron Dragon
I'm sorry, when you brought up Gruaghlothor's near immortality I couldn't help but think of this:
Inquisitive Wyrmling: "Did you die?!"
Gruaghlothor: "Sadly yes, but I lived!"
What if Steel Dragons ARE ferrous dragons that were driven into exile. Their culture of blending in with humanity started as a necessity for their survival, and they eventually just came to like humans after spending so much time with them.
I was thinking something similar, except that instead of being former iron dragons, they're one of the 'exiled' species. Basically, the steel dragons decided that they actually liked humanoids, shifted to a viewpoint more aligned with traditional metallic dragons, and defected into that camp. Would also explain why, in at least some versions, steel dragons are said to be LN with LG tendencies, when metallics are normally Something Good.
Could also raise the possibility that some other dragon types come from exiled species. (I think one setting, might have been Dragonlance, had the idea that the chromatics were originally metallic, but when they turned evil along with Takhisis, their scales turned into the colour of the corrosion of that metal, thus becoming chromatics, so could even play with this to make some of the chromatic variants into former ferrous types.)
@@Draxynnic Oh yeah, I wasn’t implying that they were former iron dragons, I was branching off his statement that half of the ferrous species disappeared or were exiled.
Also you got some great ideas of your own!
Iron, nickel, and cobalt are magnetic, tungsten and chromium are often mixed into steel either to make it heat resistant or shiny.
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Chromium is added to prevent corrosion. The shininess is just a bonus.
Tungsten iron alloys are primarily used as ultrahard magnets.
Very nice catch!
At least some of them also tend to be found in the same ores, IIRC. While copper, silver and gold tend to also be found in common deposits (which accounts for the core metallic dragons, since bronze and brass are alloys of copper).
I'd be inclined to attribute the ferrous grouping to alloys, though. The idea would be that they're all part iron, but only the iron dragons are 'pure', and that's the ideological justification for why irons are the ruling caste. The others are mixes of iron and some other metal, and they're identified by what the other metal is.
The Iron Dragon disapproves of your wrinkled clothes. It appeals to their lawful nature keeping all things in order. You can often find them polymorphed as a human form running a laundry or dry cleaning business. Their breath weapon can blast clothing with a cone effect of adjustable temperature steam. Once per day Iron Dragons can alter their breath with starch to fight the most difficult unruly fabrics. Ferrous Dragons are therefore often at odds with Fabric Dragons, especially Silk, Cotton and Linen varieties for their Chaotic leanings. Many tales speak of terrible early morning battles between Iron Dragons and their Fabric cousins, beginning with the bellowed challenge "damn wrinkles, I'll be late for work" and a retort of "you ain't the boss of me!"
Side note: Polyester Dragons are an unnatural creature created by Thayan wizards. They are not true Fabric Dragons but their scales can be used to craft a powerful artifact known as the Red Leisure Suit of Destiny. Many a Thayan pimp covers these robes for they do not wrinkle easily, resist stains or moth attacks and make a player character look like a... well, true player.
lmao
Let's keep it both lore friendly and realistic. Ferrous dragons are not ranked in their society by species, but by iron impurities. "Oh, Frank the nickle dragon has a 6.4% iron impurity content? Guess he'll be mayor."
Lol, then all ferrous dragons except iron(and steel) are imbreedings of iron and other metallic dragons lmao
@@NertNeverlander You mean hybridisations of. Which is almost the exact opposite of inbreeding.
@@LurchTheBastard sorry lol, i'm just learning eng language
@@NertNeverlander Welcome to hell, friend
Which is why they hoard iron, to eat in order to keep the iron scales pure
As a DM, I honestly need to thank you for how many missions, one shots and even full on campaigns you've inspired. Really good work out their and thanks for inspiring me to be a better Dm.
In my mind I already see a campaign focused issue where Mind Flayers have provided Iron dragons with plans or directions to attack a massive gathering place of red dragon eggs, a Githyanki stronghold. Turning Iron Dragons against the Githyanki and having the party try to prevent 2-3 genocides over the course of the conflict could be terrifying and awesome. Can’t wait for the rest of the Ferrous Dragons.
Man, does it ever feel like _everything_ turns into genocide?
I suppose D&D 5e doesn't lend itself to dedicating a whole session to preventing anyone from spilling wine on the rugs or furniture. If I wanted a chill time with low stakes, I guess a system where Invisibility & Pass Without Trace are both 2nd level spells, might not be the best place for me to start.
These dragons sounds like they would get along very well with the Hellknights from the Paizoverse. I can definetly see a group of Hellknights hunting the players on behalf of an iron dragon.
reminded me of hellknights too. Like dad mentioned a band of iron knights, lawful neutral, but with an emphasis on might and strength. they make a good combo, could definitely be adapted for 5e. Again basically what dad said; a band of knights devoted to the iron dragon supreme and their empire, maybe they get some clerics and "paladins" or warlocks in addition to generic fighter footmen. A lawful order, not outright malicious, but will do basically anything commanded of them or in service to the ferrous empire. They act as relatively minor agents in mortal affairs for the ferrous, perhaps mainly exist to battle and combat chromatic dragon cultists. Perhaps the ferrous dragons see them as expendable toys and cannon fodder, or maybe they actually value the conviction and lawful nature of these followers and actually value them as loyal pets, a bit like a man and his dog. Lots of interesting homebrew ideas to explore there.
@@GomulDartThere is definetly material for a homebrew Hellknight order if playing within Golarion or the Pact Worlds setting. The ferrous dragons also feel much more at home with the setup of Triaxus over the metalics too. They are very interesting and are the ones covered so far I feel have more meat for a campaign around them.
My fave thing is being a hellknight dragonrider.
I don't see why one couldn't just package both the original and 4e lore for this dragon. Since Iron Dragons have a whole society, it wouldn't be too farfetched to think that some of them might become hunters, assassins, or spies!
See the issue is that want to use anything from 4e.
I like the idea that, since the eras in which 2e & then 3.5 were set, by the 4e era Ferrous dragons had been so nearly eradicated that most of those who remained were reclusive & adept at subterfuge. By 5e they might be all but unknown, perhaps having formed a hidden society among lesser species with the tacit approval of some metallics.
A lot of what makes the lore so different in 4th Edition is 4th Edition used Eberron as its primary setting, and Eberron had very different dragon lore from the other settings.
@@MogofWar 4e didn't use any setting as it prime setting. There was the 'points if light' idea, but actually most of what it was wanting to do was for it to be 'setting agnostic'. So not muddy a DM's own lore for their homebrew setting. As most DMs used homebrew settings.
@zacharyhawley1693 I get why people don't like 4e both from its lore and mechanics, but like not everything in that edition was hot garbage y'know. Like Orium dragons are cool as hell, and dungeon dad should seriously do a video on them.
or or ORE there are a group of dwarves have that work with Iron dragons their mines are its lair. The dwarves get red dragon repellent, keep any ore that isnt iron (they might get a small percentage), they basically get a giant drill, a way to find a mineral rich place to make a mine And a security system for their new home. The dragon gets a fucking castle of a lair, its food, hoard grows with out it needing to do much work and a city of people with the best weapons possible to defend it and its kin. You could even add that a young iron dragon leaving its parent's nest takes a caravan of dwarves with it to find a place to start a new lair/mine that becomes a satellite for the iron dragon family to expand their kingdom.
Just got done playing a dnd game where I used a Dungeon Dad monster until 2 AM….. definitely time for another Dungeon Dad episode!
Which monster?
@@nicholasfarrell5981 i used the Dream vestige from not to long ago
@@thebardbarian5061 sweet!
Don't use iron dragons. They use a long spanding network of information that will end horribly for your players. Even fully level 20 adventurers could not survive an iron dragon onslaught.
"Both dragon types not killing each other on sight is considered treasonous for both sides"
My brain, immediately:
Romeo and Juliette dragon Romeo and Juliette please now please i need this
yes
So they both die horribly?
@mugenokami2201 no, see, cause they're dragons this time. That's an advantage that the original versions didn't have I think
@@voidaspects9173 but like , the other character's would be dragons so no advantage again
@maximespinosa6931 that's fair but I believe in them
...also now I have the scenario of everyone else *not* being a dragon in my head and that sounds incredible. Totally unrelated from the original prompt. But I want to see that story very badly now.
If you feel like the dragon well is running dry, consider this a casual reminder that planar dragons (species native to the outer planes) are very much a thing. 😉
Definitely not running dry. There's four pages of dragons on the suggestion list. And that's only covering the ones people absolutely want to see covered.
and that's not even getting into the fact that we can just make new kinds of dragons. like make a type of dragon for every kind of gemstone there is for example, is anyone up for chatting with a diamond dragon or maybe an alexandrite dragon?
@@MarMonkey2606 Perhaps...
Personally I like my idea of the thunder roar and friction/sparks based force breath. I wanted a true cross between metallic and chromatic with not only breath weapons but color showing this off. Now with the idea of ferrous dragons it seems I might try making even more dragons with technically not breath attacks like the thunder roar.
The Ferrous Dragons are just... such a wild outlier to the idea of the dragon family. It'd be like gem dragons suddenly popping out of the ether on someone who hasn't been hanging around since 5th ed and then finding Fizban's Treasury of Dragons for the first time.
Oh boy!
My favorite weekly show is back on!
Gonna make an Iron Dragon executioner for a dwarf kingdom under a mountain and a Human kingdom in the valley nearby. Using flesh to iron on prisoners brought before it, to function as tribute of iron to the dragon.
A pair of Nickel Dragons are called a Dime.
Given that the Githyanki and Red Dragons have a working relationship, it would be interesting to see a situation where a group of Githyanki at war with a clan of iron dragons who have been harassing them to take out their draconic mounts
What if the Githzerai made a similar deal with the Iron Dragons? Given that Zerai and Yanki hate each other with just as much passion. Zerai aren't as warlike which might annoy Iron Dragons, but they hate the people who ride red dragons so... maybe 🤔
@@myheartismadeofstars They ARE both lawful neutral! I feel like they'd have a pretty different Thing going on personally, especially since they have very different philosophies within their alignment. Maybe more of just a non-aggression or mutual defense thing? Iron dragons might want tools which provide psionic protection against the Githyanki, and would probably not mind a convenient cluster of their enemies (as in an attack on the Githzerai) making the hunt more efficient...
VERY interesting thought. Thank you for letting me think about this again half a year later! ^v^
@@avitraangelica9278 I think "my enemy of my enemy" is a perfectly acceptable dynamic for them. We know for a FACT that Githzerai WANT a dragon partnership (tried it with Chaos Dragons of all things) and Iron Dragons make more sense!! It's too bad that it seems like the Githzerai can reproduce just fine in Limbo, otherwise I'd suggest Iron Dragons guard their Creches, in exchange the Githzerai show them some form of servitude and help them hunt Githyanki and Red Dragons. Or even a "you protect our eggs, we'll protect yours" type dynamic.
As someone who runs a campaign in a heavily-inspired dark sun world I love the mentions to it. I plan on doing that (rather unoriginal now) idea of putting the infernal machines from Avernus in the world to really rep that Mad Max lifestyle. Using an iron dragon (or something as powerful as one as dark sun's "not supposed to have dragons") could be a nice way to make that fit.
Long-winded comment but overall, thanks for the dark sun attention and the continued, high quality videos
Love the cabal theme for the iron dragon. It really fits.
I plan on adding iron dragons to the rise of Tiamat module as a potential ally to the party simply to slay some reds and potentially help in the fight against Tiamat
I feel like the heat metal lair action could have an alternate use- instead of targeting a party member, it could target all iron not being worn, making 'danger zones' the party could have to avoid in order to be more tactical in combat- don't stand on the iron.
Plus having a multitude of entire iron statues literally glow red whenever the dragon gets mad is a killer visual.
All those iron statues made my mind go straight to armies of iron golems...
@@prophetzarquon1922Me too. And at that level of heat metal, the iron golems generate to 100% health in just a few rounds!
I am now extremely curious about Tungsten Dragons
Heavy Boi
Almost impossible to pick up with one hand! It came well packaged in a wooden crate with lots of foam. I'm gonna smash stuff with it.
Could use their materials for adamatine, I think. 3.5 lore on metallurgy.
There is a dragon empire in my setting, but the sovereign of the empire is a Solar Dragon (the Pathfinder version). I'm thinking these guys will make a great police/ covert ops force.
While not a goldmine, the ferrous drqgons still provide a wealth of resources for interesting dragon lore.
Cobalt dragon next please!
Perhaps an Iron Mine of lore thanm
13:42 A D&D video was the last place I expected Red Alert music to appear in, but I am all for it!
Have you ever made any of your own Monsters for D&D? Perhaps you could feature those as well and or take ideas from your viewers, who I'm sure have and would be willing to share
He made a hag dragon, and there are most likely other originals on the channel
Man I hate when my Dragon gets all wrinkled after a hard day of adventure.
The mention of coming into contact with Dwarves and maybe striking a deal gave me an idea with the rest of the Iron Dragons' lore:
A group of dwarven miners stumble across a sealed chamber, in which lies a heavily wounded Iron Dragon, who barely survived its clan being torn apart by a particularly old and powerful Red Dragon who has also been terrorizing the rest of the local lands off and on for centuries. The dwarves start nursing the Iron Dragon back to health, caring for its wounds and listening to its story. When a group of invaders from the Underdark (perhaps illithids or something else especially nasty and rapacious) come to try raiding the dwarves for slaves/meals, the Iron Dragon moves to save its saviours, as is only lawfully correct to do. Afterwards, the dwarves adopt the Iron Dragon into their city as an honorary member of the clan, accept its grudges as their own and it accepts and adds *their* grudges to its own. Some two or three hundred years later, the dwarves are getting ready to march on the Red Dragon with a full force, and just need a group of skilled adventurers to pre-check the mountain and lair of the vicious and ancient Red Wyrm to make sure the army doesn't march into a trap meant for either them or their Iron Dragon grand elder.
Rewards: a minor share of the Red's loot, and the amiability of this large and prosperous clan of dwarves led in part by a powerful Iron Dragon.
Cabal Stomp playing in the background feels very fitting for these dragons given their imperial nature and use of supreme size and force to keep others in line.
Ayyy I always love the dragon episodes !
While I do find the fact that those dragons arent metallic dragons despit literally being named after metals to be pretty weird, those ferrous dragons are pretty interesting. Now I wonder if they have a chaotic counterpart llike with chromatics and metallics.
Mercury dragons were all Chaotic Good (until 4e when they became unaligned)
@@prophetzarquon1922 Worth keeping in mind that in 4e, pretty much all 'good' monsters had unaligned in the statblock because it was assumed that PCs wouldn't be fighting the good ones. So most mercury dragons were probably still Good, but those the PCs fought were obviously Unaligned because if they weren't, they wouldn't be fighting!
(There's about a gajillion problems with this logic, but that was the 4E logic.)
4e forgot not all of players are good aligned xD@@Draxynnic
@@GomulDart Indeed, or at least generally on the side of good. I think they did also encourage DMs to modify statblocks as appropriate, and even class features, so a bit of houseruling for evil campaigns was encouraged. (I do recall, for instance, advice about switching radiant damage to necrotic for the skills of evil paladins and clerics.)
Can’t wait to find out more on those other 4 dragon types, especially the Chrome dragon
Not sure how relevant this is to other worlds, but according to the forgotten realms, "Ferrous dragons have more iron concentrations in their blood." which is also stated as the reason they can sense nonprecious metals. This might be the (lore-wise) reason for them being called ferrous Dragons instead of just because irons are the biggest, though if it is or not isn't specifically stated.
Always good when Dungeon Dad covers a forgotten dragon from older editions. Loving the idea of ferrous dragons though I'm not huge on them being completely separate from regular metallic dragons for some reason. Despite that, I think it's still at least a good way to surprise your players if they think all metallics are good guys by default!
I think an interesting way for these dragons to try and rebuild. Their empire is by controlling the distribution of iron economically because if they have it all and people still want to buy it, they could make a business agreement and they could make them very powerful.
My one concern about adding so many dragon species to a D&D world - and especially dragon species that live in communities - is that it really feels like, at some point, dragons will become so ridiculously common that everyone's entire existence is defined by them. Each dragon species has to have a large enough population to sustain itself, considering how low their reproductive rates are, and if you want one species of dragon to be 'rare' the other species have to have much larger populations by comparison. And unless dragons spend most of their time hibernating (which maybe they do) they're going to need to eat a LOT to sustain themselves, so at that point the world might as well be ruled by dragons. I guess the game is literally called Dungeons & *Dragons* so this shouldn't be surprising, but IDK, I've always thought of dragons being pretty rare creatures as-is.
Also why aren't my bois the Tungsten dragons the most powerful Ferrous dragons, Tungsten is dope >:p
I really appreciate hearing the Super Mario RPG remake soundtrack in here, and REALLY love hearing the DRG soundtrack right when you started discussing dwarven relations
My vote is Cobalt dragons next.
They have magnet breath! Magnets are cool!
I can imagine a scenario where an iron dragon makes its nest somewhere where there also happens to be a population of rust monsters, and the dragon ends up having to deal with these damn things constantly finding their way into its hoard and eating its treasure, and no matter how many it kills or turns to iron, more just keep coming thanks to the absolute buffet of iron to rust and consume that the dragon keeps accumulating
A high-level party working with Iron Dragons to uproot the Purple Dragon Mafia and expunge their kind from the continent would be one hell of a campaign.
So happy to see this video! I'm gonna be playing a homebrew iron dragonborn barbarian in an upcoming campaign. He's got lightning breath and will get the metallic dragon sleeping breath further down the line, plus he can always sense the location of true north. And he's path of the beast, flavored as his own tail/claws/wings growing rather than traditional "bestial" features. I really can't wait to play him!
9:03 He is the draconic One-For-All
Maybe the cloak and dagger approach are the tactics employed by the cult you talked about, it can add a bit of variety in the ways the antagonists (or allies) act
Have you thought about doing some of Kara-Tur like the Lung Dragons? I'd also love to see what you could dig up about the Radiant Dragons.
I know you're currently working on ferrus dragons, but I can't wait for when you begin to cover gem dragons! Especially the Obsidian Dragon; I'm currently creating Shadow Dragon variants of the different life stages of the Obsidian Dragon for a future campaign. Love your work, keep being you!
I know this is probably not in your current video template, but it would be really cool to have an overview of the whole dragon family. I get glimpses of them from each dragon video you produce, and it's really interesting. Would be amazing to have it all in one place! Love your videos :)
Whelp, another potential menu item for my homebrewed Forge Wasps in their "colonization" phase, or potential ally, if an Iron dragon can direct them toward a red dragon or other chromatic dragon with a substantial metal horde.
Aside from that, I'm really loving these guys, and their breathe weapon being fire and electric is a simplified version of how I see a purple dragon's 3 breaths working (cone is 2 fire to 1 lightning, line is 2 lightning to 1 fire, and the penetrating bolt of explosive doom is 1 fire to 1 lightning).
I'm also loving the warlock patron and half dragon transformation ideas (particularly because I was recently looking up some dragon patron warlock homebrews for ideas).
And, on a sode tangent to that, imagine an amethyst dragon draconic shard being the patron of a hexbladr warlock. You literally have your patron inhabiting a crystal shard attached to your sword
I don't know much about your homebrew Forge Wasps, but my gut tells me you may wanna look up Ferlon, which is basically a Wasp Dragon that lays eggs in humanoids.
@IdiotinGlans oooo, that sounds interesting. I'll be sure to look it up. If you want, I could tell you about my Forge Wasps. I have a whole Google doc for them and a stat block made thanks to the wonderful people on the Dungeon Dad discord
@@porakiyadraekojin3390 I would love to see it, thanks :)
@IdiotinGlans awesome. Gove me about an hour as I'm at work currently XD
@IdiotinGlans docs.google.com/document/d/1VeKk97ZzWpH8NaczzY5NgMgknRxjUD8IMbfSy_zd3kA/edit?usp=drivesdk here we go. Let me know of the stat block itself is legible. For the tldr: they are social flightless fire Wasps that are immune to Fire and weak to Cold, and can be rather gimmicky when fighting them. They go around gathering metal for their nests and armor, and can freely cast heat metal, including on themselves. They have a similar rocky relationship with dwarves that iron dragons have. For the colonization phase, the essentials deconstruct their metal hive, make armor and wings, and then go dragon hunting. They have a venom that ignores legendary resistances to help them. Females lay eggs that hatch into larvae that eat the dragon (alive), and then the larvae become adults and use the dragon's hoard to start a new nest
Building an age of sail setting right now with iron as a key resource... Many thanks, as always o7.
An Iron Dragon chieftain with a throne made from petrified iron statues of its enemies fused together into a massive chair with its breath weapon.
I wonder whether they would employ Iron Golems. Seems like the ideal thing you could add to your iron horde that also guards your iron horde, especially for a lawful creature that would appreciate the consistency of an emotionless mechanical defender.
that steel dragoness art at 11:41 is gorgeous.
I second-glanced(?) when I heard the Cabal music in the background. How shockingly fitting, too.
Early for once! New BG3 player here now discovering the DND multiverse through it!
This was an amazingly fun video to watch and I love the Iron Dragon, I would love to see a video made about the Seugathi of Pathfinder.
That succession of the dragon sovereign reminds me of Modron promotion. Very similar mechanic.
I played a campaign where we had a level 30 supplement. My character (Dragonborn Wizard) ascended to become a true dragon by Nidhogg. He was an Iron Dragon, it was beyond sick. Hands down the coolest character I ever played. He was titled "The Great Iron Wyrm" - Whole party became Gods in that storyline.
Given the lore of dark sun and the process required to make a dragon I would be far more worried there is any type of dragon there than I would be in its horde.
I love the Ferrous Dragons, my personal favorite is the Cobalt Dragon. It has a magnetic breathweapon that you cannot even see, and forces a Bullrush check against everyone in the area of effect.
I usually combine my other favorite monster as a half cobalt dragon. The Lodestone Marauder from 3.5 MM4 has magnetic abilities, too, so adding a magnetic breath weapon and other abilities make them crowd control beasts.
Cabal stomp is a great choice of music for the description bit on the ferrous dragons and Gruaghlothor. Somehow it just fits well
i would have liked if you touched on how they feel about giants.
An iron dragon ruling a kingdom from the shadows reminds me of Vritra from Final Fantasy 14.
I don’t know if you’re tired of the dragon videos, but I would love to see more gem dragons. Maybe diamond, Pearl, garnet, ruby, etc.
The idea of a warlock of Groglothor is definitely an interesting one!
I asked for ferrous dragons a few videos ago. So happy :)
Perfect timing. I am working in a bank by myself tonight and I needed some good listening material in order to make time go faster.
I think whats makes this channel so fun is how it has a little bit of something for every player type
Sleepy me just had a silly idea for a Dragon in the Spell Jammer setting. It hatches in the Colossal size category, mainly for the line "That's no moon!" when a ship comes across one hatching. Because why not throw in a gratuitous Star Wars reference?
Great job as always, but I have a small criticism: I'm a little disappointed in the Iron Dragon's AC in their later age categories, in particular in their Ancient form. Their (litterally) iron-clad armored scales offer only a meager Armor Class of 19, which is the same as their regular Adult form (whilst conserving the same Dexterity score, no less) ? An Ancient Red Dragon has an AC of 23, by comparison. I wouldn't imagine the Iron Dragons' scales to be significantly weaker to that of Red Dragons, personally.
I look forward to all of the topics on dragons. Cant wait to see the Gold Dragon when you cover it😆
Thank you so much for this!
At this point who doesn't hate red dragons?
Githyanki... that's about it
Jack Atlas
Im listening to this while hearing Destiny music and loving it. Im also getting flashbacks of the Destiny Valus
Can you make a video about Sardior? i think that would be a pretty good idea especially since he isnt weel known even tho he was the god of Gem dragons and neutral alligned dragons
Sardior is a named dragon. He doesn't do lore videos specifically. However, the ruby dragon is on the list, so Sardior will at least be brought up during that.
Hemochromatosis has the potential to make someone drop dead btw. Like, dead before you hit the ground level. I knew someone irl it happened to.
I think it would be interesting to classify dragons as either precious metal dragons or magnetic metal dragons to better differentiate them, and I’m wondering what the other seven species of magnetic dragon would be, including the two that are supposedly extinct
I was actually allowed to play as a bronze dragon in one campaign, when we encountered an iron dragon my guy was basically the designated diplomat, things almost went badly until he mentioned we had beef with a blue dragon and suddenly we had some powerful temporary allies in exchange for a box of ship nails and a few acts that were technically hate crimes against a squad of dwarves that were jerks to us earlier
13:44 HOLY CRAP is that Frank Klepacki? MY DUDE you have good taste ahaha
One of my players really wanted to find an iron mine on the map, so I put one on the map for him. There will now be a surprise inside.
I have used a few of these dragon already, Love your videos a ton.
Being a giant riding an iron dragon enforcing the laws of your shared peoples sounds metal AF!
Hey, hey, HEY! I know that intro music! That's from Chopper Attack on the 64!
Glad to hear it before diving in!
ferrous is also magnetic, named that because people used to associate magnetic things with iron
I play and dm 3.5e and I mostly use this for finding more 3.5 monsters and books whilst also having entertainment and ideas
When you said that you're going to ignore some of the fourth Edition lore All I could think of up to that point was a horse sized iron dragon.
Sneaking around the same way a big dog does. It's like dude I can totally see you
Personally I find the Ferrous Dragons extremely interesting on the basis of how easily they can slot into any role you need, as a whole -- and one of the key points as to why this is comes down to how different settings handle dragons. A stock-standard clan of ferrous dragons in Forgotten Realms is going to be depicted in a very different light than if that exact same group, with no changes to them whatsoever, would be depicted in Eberron for instance.
I would love to see you touch on the cosmic dragons from pathfinder, solar, moon, space, and time dragons.
Solar and time dragons are in 5e, but he did cover the solar/sun and moon dragons on the channel.
Imagine spelljamer iron dragons being like siths empire 😮
I am now
I _finally_ know the power of the Dark Side.
It all makes sense now.
man i am using all the dragons you’ve covered in a 1 on 1 campaign and i CANNOT wait
I know it’s been a while, but the iron poisoning lair effect gave me an idea: you could use the same effect for a vampire iron dragon but reflavor it as induced anemia
Yeah what's interesting is ferrous dragons are usually the most common types of dragons in dnd settings making Toril a weird outlier
Lets go i had my personal 5e Translation but this one is way better thx man.