Turning a Failure into a $1,500 Table
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2023
- This coffee table didn't sell. Let's fix it.
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Here's the full story of the customs issue... I live in Canada, the buyer is in California, and I shipped the table in two boxes via UPS. I included customs invoices, thinking that was sufficient, but I was wrong. A few days after shipping, we noticed that the package was being held in a warehouse in Michigan, so I called UPS and they told me that they needed a Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) declaration. After a fair amount of research, we filled it out (which basically just says what the table is made of), and submitted it to the email address we were provided. A few days later, no movement. Called UPS again, and they told us they had no record of the form. The buyer tried to resubmit the form with no success, and eventually, UPS just sent the packages back to me. When the boxes arrived back at my doorstep, they were not only undamaged, but it looks like they were never opened. The customs invoices were also unopened. So, yeah. An annoying, ridiculous problem that probably could've been avoided if I had hired a customs broker. Next time. Kudos to you if you've read this far!
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It's such a small thing, but I hear it all the time in the woodworking community and just have to mention it: epoxy doesn't "go exothermic." The chemical reaction that takes place as epoxy cures IS exothermic, meaning it generates heat as it progresses. This is in contrast to an endothermic reaction, which has to take heat in from the environment in order to progress. One example of an endothermic reaction is the one that happens inside those chemical cold packs that people use for injuries. Until very recently I taught math and science, and this is one of those situations where I love that people know the word, but want us to use it correctly. When epoxy is poured too thickly, the heat that is released by the chemical reaction that is the curing process can't dissipate quickly enough. This actually speeds up the reaction, releasing more heat and causing a sort of runaway greenhouse effect in the epoxy. The temperature differential between the top and bottom of the epoxy causes it to warp and crack.
Anyway, end of pedantic science teacher rant. The table is gorgeous! I love the white epoxy. I'm not totally sold on the circular shelf. I think that because it's the only curved feature on the table while everything else is polygonal, it draws too much focus from the top, which is clearly supposed to be the star of the show. I think that a general good rule to follow is to choose one element of your design that will be the central focus, and to design the rest of the piece around that that element in ways that support it and match with its style. I think I would prefer a hexagonal shelf basically. I love the white epoxy though! Black is so overdone and boring to me, and the white makes this look so visually lightweight, which I love.
You could have caulk it in the inside part of the acrylic rim. The epoxy wouldn't stick to the caulk.
Dude's girl must be a saint to let him keep a curing epoxy shelf on their table inside for 6 days
Your enthusiasm and personality are extremely drawing. If I drank I’d say this is the kind of guy I’d want to sit down and have a beer with. Keep it up bro!
Thank you so much!
I thought the original table was already fantastic, I had no idea how you were going to improve it. But wow, incredible job!! Congrats to the buyer, excellent buy!
I think having the expectation that something is going to sell immediately as a creator and artist is a challenging way to approach projects. Not everything sells, it may takes weeks or months. That’s only from my experience but I’ve made leather goods that sell the second I put them out and some I think will sell immediately end up sitting for a month or two.
Not sure if someone mentioned this alrdy, but Cam at Blacktail Studios uses landscape border for edges when doing round tables and epoxy doesnt stick to it. He also used flex seal when he gets leaks from an epoxy pour. Hopefully this helps if someone hasnt mentioned it alrdy and I hope your next project goes great!
Morley, I am so impressed with your perseverance. Great job!
Thank you so much!
My gut feeling is if you’re going to make more unusual design choices, you have to expect them to take longer to sell, because you’re looking for a more unusual buyer. Let’s be honest, if it was black epoxy it would have sold much easier.
Idk man the white is pretty clean to me
I think a glass would have been the best choice, just my opinion
Its all the same table tops. Every one. Different shape just a little but all same. Different color but same design. Let me cut squares or diamonds or rectangle and place them on to then epoxy them in and put legs on it. Its all the same s*** over and over and over. How are you not bored of it? Ignorance is bliss I guess 😂😂😂
19:34 He’s wearing the shirt!!
I just got this recommended and saw two of your videos (the pallets to desk top first). I love the fact you're not looking for the biggest profit, but for a genuine buyer that will appreciate the work you've put into it.
Not that the goal of making stuff is to make minimum wage, but when you have a YT following at least you can subsidize the cost by using it as content for the channel, which in turn provides some level of extra income. Thanks for sharing the build with us :)
Man blowing customers minds is the best part of woodworking. I love that moment when I pop the hatch on my car and they see it for the first time. 👊 thanks for the inspiration man. Love your channel!
Use lawn edge liner next time instead of acrylic. Reusable and flexible.
Houdini definitely used a key. 😂
When you said "I'm trying to think of something witty to say" before sanding, it sound like you said "woody" instead if witty.....so mission accomplished XD
😂😂
Your mom being the top patron is beyond wholesome and I’m here for it. ❤
I think you made the right choice with the change of legs, but that bottom shelf tho, not a big fan.
I usually take notes from your designs tho! Very very creative!
I’m with you. Not a fan of especially white resin, wood would have looked better.
@@andrewupson2987 Or at least a shelf of the same form as the tabletop.
for the leak, Blacktail Studio uses "Flex Paste from Phil Swift". He also teaches an in-depth course in making epoxy tables, but in several videos, where he's sprung a leak, he lathers this stuff on the leak and stops it in its tracks. Might be useful for future projects.
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I Friggin' love this guy! The creativity, the tenacity, and the raw, honest effort.. Subscriber for life!
So much nicer with the new base. Good job!
When doing an epoxy pour. Do it with water first. You can see leaks that way.
Another great build! Think its worth it for sure! Maybe its better to cover the rockwool in your workshop, better for your health and easier to hang your tools ;)
Man this just amazes me at your work of art.
Love the new design! Way to go!
After the redesign of the base, I really like it
*I love how he just adds up the time used to repair his own errors to the total time for the project.*
😂
That IS the amount of time that he spent on it
@@unscripted483 > *professional* maker 🤡
If he's not honest about how long it takes a project to get from beginning to end, he'll never have an honest picture of how his business is doing. Repairing errors is part of any business and has to be taken into account for the overall production picture.
I have binged like 7 videos. I love your channel!
Hi Morley, thanks for another enjoyable video. I do a lot of resin work, and I seal my mould by pouring a small amount of resin along the inside of the joints to seal them and let it harden for a day, before doing the main pour. You're affectively sealing the mould from both the inside and the outside, and I very rarely get any leaks. Take a quick a look at one of my videos if you want to see what I mean.
The table turned out great! And the buyer seemed like an awesome, down to earth guy. Great vid, keep up the great work!
Thank you! 😊😊
Me every time Morley sands something:
📻🕺🪩
4:44
Flex paste is AMAZING for leaks in epoxy. I had a huge one and it worked perfectly!
I enjoy your workethics and enthousiasm. Your design choices though I have mixed feelings about. But I’m glad you found a buyer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all. :)
Awesome job Morley! Keep going the same way :)
Great attitude throughout! True trial and error and all the emotional intelligence needed to succeed
I think you should use black instead of white next time. Black goes with everything, white, not so much.
By the way, I love the table, but wife said no way because it was white.
That and Black Forest Wood Company sells a really good nano protective spray. So does Blacktail Studios, but Black Forest is in Canada. It protects the top against stains and scratches. I use something similar on my tables at home and it works really well.
Daaang, that dude drove all the way from Rhode Island. He became his own courier.
Thank You God that you finally sell that table. Its pretty much info about them.
love your work! your videos are awesome!
super clean my man!
Love your work ethics Brother
Liked, shared and commenting. B4 u mentioned staying at original price, I was gonna mention the plastic jigs u made to clamp the legs. But since u stayed at original price n even ended up lowering price further, I won’t mention em. Lol. Great video as always 🍻
So happy to hear you sold it and the person you sold it to was awesome. Great job :)
Thank you!
You're a legend Morley, keep it up
❤️❤️❤️
Just use better caulking that’ll help stop all your leaks. Might be a little more expensive but it won’t leak. I’ve done both and trust me this helps wonders
The problem isn't customs, the problem is UPS. Never ship something from the US to Canada via UPS, they will use any excuse to nickle and dime you. Instead have it shipped US Postal Service i.e. mail. I guess never ship anything *to* the US via UPS either.
Dude, that base is awesome! You should be very proud of yourself! ( side bar, you now love close to my hometown of midland and then just delivered that table to my current town!
Thank you!
@MorleyKert you are very welcome! If you and your partner ever have time you should check out midland, specifically Fosters farm/ mountain view ski area! That's where I started woodworking myself and my father still does! Might have some salvaged wood for you or other cool things!
As someone who works in The UPS store I HATE SHIPPING INTERNATIONAL shipping to Canada normally is pretty smooth however sometimes UPS "rejects" random package just cause they fell like it and for us at the store it's very annoying telling customers we don't fully know why something was returned 😢
Pretty sure Rubio Monocoat instructions says max grit 150 as higher grit sanding ‘seals’ the pores prevent it from soaking in the fibers and compromising the protection it can offer. I may be wrong?
You are correct! They recommend between 120 and 150 for the final grit - 320 is way too high.
You are abit too much glas is half full for myself. BUT you are a deceivingly good woodworker and the aid through 3D printing is just short of genius. Most of the woodworkers on yt are scruffy loner types who are "purists" and wouldnt even consider such a new technique. You have a subscriber my friend! Keep up the good work!
great work man
If you are using silicone caulk then it should have worked unless you aren't letting it cure long enough before you pour. I do know they make specific kinds depending on the area and what application you are using it for. But amazing work! I personally would have gone with black or a near black blue epoxy, but I love how the table turned out!
Did anyone else see that sick EK Civic on a trailer at 16:27? Thing looked sick haha
flex seal paste or modeling clay is the best to stop holes
Good job!!
Thank you!
This is the nicest table you’ve ever made
Thank you so much!
the pricing on these builds is outrageous for the quality of work in all honesty
You mean it's not expansive enough? I agree, but higher prices mean even less buyers.
Why not fill out the forms when you got the packages back and reship it?
Hate to say it Morley, I like the original legs better. Personal preference though, to each their own! Still a super nice base. Love your builds and edits though man! Keep it up dude!!
I love your channel!
can we talk about how dope the buyer was? albeit eccentric.
happy you sold it
Really a beauty bro...
wow! thanks for the calculation of the hourly payment. I definitely need to learn to ask for more than minimum wage…!
If you’re live close to the border, just take the table with you across the border and ship it from the US. I used to do that all the time. Good luck.
What is that resin pour just to try to anticipate and prevent leakage considered just mixing a small batch initially, and painting it around the borders, as prep work. It should seal it, and then at that point do more of a deep pour. Maybe that’d be better.
In the future when applying wood glue please spread it across the entire surface to ensure a solid homogenous bond otherwise you will likely leave small gaps and create more work later
Might just be me, but the way you said it, it sounded like customs rejected the packages because the legs didn't fit the style 😂😂
Very cool
Hi from Chicago! I was just curious where do you normally list your furniture to sell? This table is very cool!
Thank you! I list it on my social media pages (Instagram, Facebook, CZcams) and local Facebook groups
since you had to drive to make a delivery, what if you drove accross the border for the delivery? Like cross the border to a post office and ship it from there,.
I wonder why not use thin plywood and pour epoxy over it? It would be less epoxy and maybe stronger? (Edited, as you explained the reason. I didn't feel like deleting the text but I like the look of it. Cheers from Burlington)
With it being so thin, I was worried that you would be able to see the plywood through the epoxy.
@@MorleyKert i started comment while watching (too into the video 😁) thank you for letting me know. I love the contrast of dark wood and the light epoxy
Would it make any sense to use a thick plastic sheet (almost like a tarp or vinyl) in between the base and mold so that when prying off you dont need to be afraid of shattering with a crowbar? This way you can peel off the tarp instead of prying off the resin?
The table came out great!, 1 question tough why a circle for the shelf? i think it'd look better if it was a hexagon aswell.
Thank you! I 3D modelled both options and I liked the look of the circle shelf 😊
yes, agree with the hexagon shelf base. the round shelf didn't look right to me.
I like it as a circle. It gives some contrast
Great video. I just got my first 3d printer and it's been great. Are there any prints that weren't job specific that you would suggest as a maker?
I also just bought that same doweling jig, it had the biggest width capabilities which has been great. I find the glue ups to be a little messy but that's probably my own fault for using too much glue.
I would suggest using your 3D printer to fix small frustrations around your house! Keep a list of things that annoy you to get in the habit of noticing things that you can improve 😊
Frame looks great
Thank you!
Maybe try getting some new planer blades it might help ❤
Porosity?? LOL I had to look that one up!!
Ialready liked the table but it looks so incredible now! I think the right guy bought it too.
Thank you so much! me too 😊
With epoxy being so expensive why not trying a bucket of water 1st to test for leaks just enough to cover the bottom. Then if no leaks just dry and proceed with use.
Shipping is so complicated! I work for a chemical company and the hoops we have to jump through, because every single country has a different set of rules... it's ridiculous.
hello from germany, just found your chanel and i love it, but one question why you count your hours? if you go fishing and need 10 hours for a fish is it worth 500 bucks? but your work is great
For you own health get a cheap shop vac, I believe you can make one from a home depot 5 gallon bucket or something. idk im not from NA
what type of clamps do you use?
I'd be interesting if you sold 3d parts for different angles to clamp like you did here.
You can take some flex paste and put it on the parts where the epoxy leaks out i found that out from blacktail studio
Amd later in the videos you say you nees flex tape
I need to see the invoice for that sale.
They are $199 @ Lowes.
Low VOC does not mean no voc. I would suggest never doing anything resin indoors without some form of ventilation.
flex tape/flex seal makes a product called flex paste. big results with that
bro your under selling yourself. Toronto is the financial district of Canada. Try reaching out to a Gallery or contact high end interior decorators, high end Realtors because they usually use staging companies. Facebook market is ok for eyes to see your work but it’s not your market. people using facebook want to buy extremely cheap. the best thing for you in the future is to move out your apt and get a working studio where you can live and work the back. keep a show room store front. Collaborate with other artist in the greater Toronto area to bring their art to sell in your store!!!
What is the stand/table you are using for your typewriter? I have the same Underwood Typewriter and have been looking for something to set it on.
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Hi sir do you do designing for people?
How do you even justify these prices?
It's a very cool table, but personally I would not have gone with white.
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Or get a nice one 😆
@@diezmon fail
@@mac2708 😏🤣
How did the Lasik go
Great! It’s wonderful being able to see great all the time.
Geometric beauty
Flex paste stops epoxy leaks better than anything else
Did you add profit from both videos you made?
no
@@MorleyKert would it make a huge difference?
Anyone know what that portable laser engraver is called?
It's a laserpecker
Ehhhhhhh why isn’t it just a hexagon shelf. It hurts my brain.
why is the shelve not hexagon shaped, i really like the idea, but man, that just looks off! might just be me ;) great work though.