Ukraine Crisis Proves EU is Imperialist Trap Subservient to US, w/ former Greek MP Costas Lapavitsas
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- To understand why the European Union exists and how it is changing due to the financial crisis and the war in Ukraine, Rania Khalek was joined by Costas Lapavitsas, a professor of economics at SOAS, author of “The Left Case Against the EU” and a former Syriza MP. He also has a forthcoming book out in 2023 called “The State of Capitalism” published by Verso Books.
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0:00 Intro
2:08 What is the EU?
6:24 What happens if Ukraine joins the EU?
10:32 Evolution of European left’s view of the EU
18:48 EU as an anti-democratic arrangement
26:41 EU creates European periphery and core
30:55 Common currency: the Euro
33:42 How Germany came out on top
39:38 Germany’s conditional hegemony
45:16 American hegemony over Europe
52:05 Freedom of capital to move cheap labor
1:03:18 Far right vs the EU?
1:08:25 How the left responds
1:12:06 The state of capitalism today
#europeanunion #europe - Zábava
Not to long ago I was wishing I was European, thinking shit my parents should have immigrated to Europe and not America. After hearing this gentleman I realize it doesn't make a goddamn bit of difference where ever you look in the world you see a small group of people trying to dominate the majority
Like I tell people my dream destination is either Cuba or Brazil(in February)to experience organic life.When I look and listen at Boris,I ask myself the what class of people I should expect to meet in England.Save for Biden!!!!!
You didn't miss out on anything
Was against Keynes economic doctrine in University of Brussels and quit after an argument with my economy professor with 1000 students applauding me
USA is the best country in the world but they are trying to implement socialism aka communism
Ask the survivors of the USSR how that worked out for them
I was there when the Berlin wall fell..
So please don't give me a lesson of history and bs woke theory
My parents immigrated to Europe... from the Soviet Union. And I wish they never wold have done that ;)
except in "authoritarian" countries, like china. i would go there if i could.
Try Nigeria.
51:23 In the reverse fashion the USA forced Australia to shoot themselves in their feet too. China was the largest buyer of Australian commodities, and basically the US is destroying that relationship through militarization.
China now controls iron ore price is Australia. China no use a single company to buy ore from Australia then the company in China supply all the Chinese steel industry.
WOW China is pretty start
@@Bplus0224 Prices of commodities is in Western control. China control Demand n production. Iron ore prices stabilised when Chinese Govt ordered a cutback on production for Export hence forcing reduction of Demand hence prices. There was also a crackdown of profiteers in Chinese commodities market as price control kicks in n smuggling of iron ore exports crackdown.
Australia was little affected by 2008 GFC because of trade with China. Now Australians must decide what sort of society and economy we want. China and the rest of Asia does not care what we do.
They destroyed Japan.The US has a habit of this you become too powerful we destroy you.But many parts of the world have had enough the tide is turning.
That is the SOP of how the United States of America break up the close ties of countries that it does not control, to one that can function only under its thumb.
EU is a colony of USA, in terms of culture, economy, and politics.
anyway, EU enjoys it very much..
@@lanlantulan Not everyone does! Some of us are cultured. The EU social engineering plan is to make everyone moronic.
@@lanlantulan really? - look at the lingering discontent in France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc. Not to mention Brexit. The Eastern Europeans tend to be more enthusiastic.
@@hazelwray4184 the lingering discontent will be ignored by the politicians who are determined to follow (or pulled by the nose) the hegemonic state selfish and war-monger policy that is undermining the security and resource cost of Europe itself.
Europe is the place where the, ELITE, West, (Washington, London & Brussels (NATO Elite thugs) Keep their Neocolonialism Imperialism dream alive. Hence they abuse democracy by having 27 no constituency appointed appointee's European Commissioner's and also 30 no constituency appointed appointee's NATO Members.
I'm telling you folks!! These Western corrupt Elites detest democracy and International Human Rights Laws. 75 vucking years finding ways to get the corporate corrupt Apartheid genocidal Israel and their Western corrupt Elite friends off the International Human Rights Laws hook.
I'm sorry folks, we're living amongst a pack of Corporate corrupt Whitehouse & corrupt NATO hyenas.
This is as close to evil that the Corporate corrupt Elite West can take us!! They've all gone mad!!
Thank you so much Rania and Costas for bringing us this fascinating conversation. What can be better than to get a full historical overview of the EU while laying on my couch on a cold rainy Friday morning in Chile. I learned a lot, and if I still had some illusions about the EU before, they are surely gone now!
Those illustrations should have long ago evaporated. It would seem in vain to have illusions coming from entities (EU) whose historical trajectory of development could only had been possible on the back of America’s Indigenous population and their destruction. These are the same EU that shipped Columbus para la Matanza. Then 500 years later they sent their Nazi criminals to Chile after WWII, which ended with Pinochet and his generals in your country. Chile and its people have a massive historical tradition of rich civilization that precedes that of Europeans. Chile, like all South America, is rich in its own traditions and history and needs no illusions coming from estos criminales!
It's complete nonsense
Exactly. Drinking beer in Canada on a Saturday night. That was an hour very well spent. The best aspect was the relevance to and yet absence of direct discussion of (what side are you on? etc etc as people are killed) the war in Ukraine.
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It's a shame half the UK is so ignorant they believe the EU is some amazing left wing thing, rather than the source of what has crushed the working class and all services in our nation via mass migration causing failure of the social contract
In 2013, Ukraine was in terrible economic shape. It needed help. It had a choice join the EU or the economic pkg offered by Russia. Russia (then Ukraine's largest trading partner) offered several billion dollars and discount on gas. EU offered a smaller pkg, but with promises increased help if Ukraine fulfill certain austerity measures. (Remember by this time the Greek people had protested against EU "troika", the IMF, EC. ECB, but Ukrainian seemingly weren't paying attention).... Early in the spring of 2013, then democratically elected Ukrainian President Yanukovich openly criticized his own pro-Russian party leaders. He told his party that he would choose the best plan for the whole of Ukraine. But, later in 2013 when Russia offered a deal he couldn't refuse ... Ukrainians exploded in anger ... Stephen F Cohen actually read the enormous EU plan. He found a clause that specifically stated that Ukraine will prepare militarily to join NATO. This was part of the EU plan. .... The austerity measures imposed by the EU were so severe that no Ukrainian president since 2014 has fully implemented them, because they were politically suicidal
that the roots of this war
You pay attention to the intricate details. It means you can’t be deceived by the cheap western propaganda peddled by the mainstream media.
Thanks for this answer, in particular for highlighting the clause in the treaty stating that Ukraine must prepare militarily to join NATO as part of their agreement. That explains why the Ukrainians had 10 thousand soldiers PER YEAR trained by the US-EU since 2014 (see John Mearshimer on CZcams). It’s all morally disgusting how they have provoked this war.
I have no sympathy for Ukraine. A people intertwined with the Rus people, centuries of intermarriage, a common religion, and history, and they threw it all away because they refused to publicly denounce NATO. Instead of saying the Russians are our brethren and we won't be traitors like Judas yet they turn on them overnight. They did just that. Imagine I as a Greek that overnight the Cypriot people stab the mainland Greeks in the back and join an alliance wanting us dead or Asia Minor Greeks turn on the Pontian Greeks.
yanukovic wanted Ukraine neutral, had managed 1/2 of what he needed from Russia, no conditions, and asked 1/2 (15 billions) as a loan from EU, thought they could accept 50-50. But the commercial private loan he negociated was overruled by IMF-EU with the usual ideological conditions, debt to destroy the economy. The coup in Kiev was ready to explose while he was in Bruxelles anyway, a trap.
Thank you so much Rania. You are a blessing to people like me,who knew things are going badly,but don't have the complete grasp of the reasons for what we are going through.
And now the Imperialists want a South Pacific NATO not realising that the countries of Asia have woken up and have long memories of former European colonialism. So no Bali Hi this time for US/U.K./ and EU. Go BRICS Asia!
Rep Majorie Taylor Green tweeted :
June 30, 2022
" We should pull out from Nato ".
Something about a broken clock...
she was for baby formulas, but then voted against it. i don't trust her.
You first need to understand what is NATO pact ?
yeah so what?
Who cares what that devastatingly stupid lying psychopathic grifter says?
Brilliant interview! I have learned SO MUCH. Please have Costas back. He is so informative, analytical and BRILLIANT.
Really excellent interview. Costas is an excellent speaker who covered the evolution of the EU in a comprehensive way, and especially its massive flaws for members of the "member" nations. Let's hope it continues to fall apart, and at the hands of those who think they are leaders.
Those leaders are vastly unpopular today. If only every European could hear this conversation.
Thank you for such a wonderful lecture.
Great commentary! Could have listened to Costas for hours!
Brilliant as always Rania, thanks for organising this interview and thank you very much for your industrious yet very passionate approach to the progress, what ever does that mean,,🙏🙏🙏
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Thank you, i learned a lot from this lecture of Prof. Lapavitsas!
Thanks Rania and Costas, for this excellent analysis cum discussion, much appreciated, I hope the book Costas is working on gets well read, especially among those who would like to make some change for the better in our much troubled profit driven world.
Excellent...thank you
Costas is impressive, I am looking forward to reading his book, thanks
Great commentary, powerful and convincing. Thank you.
Great report!!!!
Great conversation, thank you Rania
Thank you Rania and Costas for this very interesting and compelling discussion!
I mean... EU is basically a half-colony of the states. why would any expect anything from them?
Great presentation excellent questions by Rania & analysis by the professor Costas
Thank you very much, Rania, for this most enlightening conversation with Costas Lapavitsas. Costas' very profound analysis of the structures and mechanisms in the EU helps me to better understand what is actually going on in the Ukraine and in the various EU states right now.
Great introduction.
Even though I’m in Britain I still think of myself as European. I’m shocked at how the European politicians have behaved. Complete subservience to the US. I hope the European people vote these traitors out.
Not a chance. The ideological indoctrination is so embedded I expect my fellow Germans to still be babbling about "solidarity" and "fighting to save democracy" while sitting in their cold, dark homes, wondering whether they should buy candles or bread with the next round of government allowance.
Hahahahaha As if UK is not subservient to US. France is way better than UK when it comes to dealing with US.
They want to stay close to the money printing machine
@@Sam-tz8ou you’re right
Wow I've never heard anyone better explain the true EU from all sides in a concise way!
Very interesting interview. Thankyou both 💓
Lapavitsas is an incredible thinker. Great context and interpretations. Germany and Japan subservience is based on a lot of things including approximately 50,000 U.S. troops in each country. .
Rania first time I see you. Thank you. I see All of Li Jingjing and add you for your tranparencia.
Very good Mr Lapavitsas!
Просто 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Неожиданно !!!
Жаль, жители ЕС это допускают и сами теперь от этого и страдают
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Господи 🙏 береги матушку Россию 🙏
I ne govorite ! Nu golosa prosypaiutsia, no ili slichkom robko... ili prosto im ne daiut sil'no "efira"... (pressa i vlast' - ruka v ruku) Da spasi i soxrani, Boje, russkij mir (v chirokom smysle) !
@@michonok2986 жители ЕС, которые против - их Очень мало 😯 и если они сильно выражают протест, то сразу уголовное преследование (самое распространённое наказание это 3 года тюрьмы) - в Германии 63-летняя пенсионерка на днях приговорена к 3 года за поддержку России и Путина 🤦🏼♀️ и это демократия ???
Thank you for this ❤
I've watched this whole thing like 4 times. It's very dense. Extremely insightful.
Far out Rania's guest, her interviews, her level of questioning is second to none! One of the principal voices in raising awareness of the world today!
European Union and NATO with US backing makes imperialism great again.
Yes great thriving pirates that's what it make them
Interesting conversation. Thank you.
Rania I appreciate you 💗🤝
Excellent program, Thank you
I am portuguese in Portugal. It is ALL TRUE!!😢✊️
Really clear and informative. Thank you.
Brilliant stuff. ThanQ RK (frm NZ)
A brilliant eye opening discussion
Good work as usual, Rania!
Rania had some great questions and had clearly put thought and research into the history, economics and politics of the EU.
Thank you both for this interesting conversation ! I hope every European citizen at least listens to this !
Thank you for such an excellent program.
Very interesting conversation with former Greek MP Costas Lapavistas.
Since recent events transpired in Europe it has become more obvious what the EU represents and the fact its leaders are under the control of the emericans. A few years ago I remember reading about a leaked document that explained how the EU would move towards a Federal State, have its own army and we, the citizens, would be forced to pay an extra tax to fund this EU army. Now we can see the real reason behind this political desire was to expand NATO all across east and west Europe and geographically box in Russia, destabilise Russia and leave it in ruins. I am even more happy that I voted to leave this corrupt non-representative gravy train, it may have done the working person some good, but its raison d'etre is now far more sinister.
Fantastic guest, thank you - I’ll be listening to this a few times - lots to digest!
The internationalism thrust of the EU as a socialist overlord is about as logical as Posadism ( who think socialism will come from the dust of nuclear war ) the idea that socialism will come from above ( and not be a worker initiative ) was always faulty, but where do we go from here? now that the structure of the EU is collapsing around us ( i am in Australia but an internationalist so believe that i am part of that collapse because my country is going through that corruption of the government by corporate capture ) all systems of capitalism are in disarray, now is the time for the revolution to hit them while they are down my comrades !!! you can see how this system is destroyed in its own excesses, and the inherit contradictions capitalist relations.
Are you confusing the internationalism of capitalist expansion with that of international socialist solidarity?
What a wonderful guest; I learned so much! I could not even begin to understand Europe today and how they feed their own demise.
Brilliant!
Thanks Rania,great guest,great topic
What an enlightening knowledge !!
That was great!
A breath of fresh air. Thanks
Great interview. This was very enlightening. Would love to see the prof come back for a deeper dive in the future.
Loving your Work Rania, great truth of information.. 💕👌🇦🇺 WA.
I can totally understand the thoughts and sentiments from a former Greek politician. EU membership simply doesn’t work out economically for his homeland. A complete disaster from the start.
this interview has cemented many things for me.
Great discussion.
Very instructive discussion with an excellent synopsis of EU by left economist Costas Lapavitsas who unfortunately is often overshadowed by the Greek celebrity left economist Yanis Varoufakis. Both of these Greek economists were members of Syriza and offer unique critical insights into the devolution of the EU into an agency of European and transnational Capital.
Costas has clearly stated what has, and is going on in Australia, including with the refugees. The only thing is we have our currency, like the U S, but is it coincidental that it is also called the dollar? Can our dollar challenge the U S or even the British pound? No, like the euro or the pound cannot. Neo-liberal economics will not allow.
oz could throw in with china. that's what i would do. replace the oz dollar with the FU$. sanction the usa oligarchs.
The EU is run on an old german foreign policy model called Limited Sovereignty. It's not about independent nations. It's the same model Germany tried to impose upon the Baltic states at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1918. The Baltic states finally swallowed it in 2004.
Im sorry but, Rania Khalek is one of the hotest human beings on earth! and helping keeping free speech alive!
Thanks, this was very informative.
Thank you Rania, a thought-provoking interview.
“keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” - Lord Ismay (about NATO)
From the US point of view, the Ukraine conflict has been largely successful: German-Russian links have been trashed and Germany de-industrialised.
Thanks for the great lessons on Europe's vassalization
Rania
Fact Costas, best dialogue.
Far from identifying as a leftist myself, but I enjoyed Costas eloquent presentations of his thoughts, his uninterrupted chain of arguments about the EU's maladies were both intriguing, and evoked examination of same issues from different perspectives, I do share his really historically accurate views of western imperialism of the less fortunate nations and the mess, suffering & poverty it has left multitude of populations south and east of the Mediterranean as a general directions... I look forward to reading his ( the collective's) book..
This was one of my favorite Breakthrough conversations so far, among some pretty good ones. Not because of its focus on Europe but because of how much I was able to learn and the quality of the conversation. Thank you for your efforts, both of you. I also appreciate the use of the thesis of an argument for the title. Maybe it could serve as an alternative to simply stating the occurrence of events that you find in some news articles or other news.
The most successful resistance movements are in Latin America, and they're primarily led by indigenous movements. That's where the talk of "the workers" fell flat to me. We don't identify as workers, we id as property owners vs non-property owners, then by our pecking order at work and social identities. That private property kick isn't how SoAm indigenous tribes function, the land is communal, unlike the US, pieces of it can't be sold off by individual tribal members. Tribes are already a unit and have buried differences between tribes to achieve benefits for all who work and live on the land. Even within the core nations, community ties disappear as people move across the country for a chance to afford a home, as a property owner or rented from a property owner. We don't even discuss the disaster that is private property. Socialists are stuck in the 19th/20th centuries, ignoring property and finance.
Viva zapata
Another great video. Couldn't believe that I listened to this whole discussion. Thank you 😊
I tried to characterize the EU myself and could only come up with one word that adequately describes it. The EU is a dud for its own purposes but actually just a servant of the U.S. Ukraine made this crystal clear..
Thank you for this conversation. I learned much from it.
Thanks Rania Khalek and professor Costas for this amazing and informative interview! It explains the base of all the problems around the world!! Central bank, detachment of left with labor, rise of the extreme right and many more ….. !! Bravo 🙌👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Excellent discussion.
Greatest guest speaker!!
Could you re invite Prof
Lapavitsas & invi
Prof. Yannis Varafakis
to appear together??
Very good!I like Mr.Lapavitsas's in depth analysis of the EU and its changing policies from a Historical perspective!Very telling indeed!I believe that Germany might have been artificially built up as a post-war successful Country(With the help of the Euro)!What it looks like to me is that the defeated is now a slave state who's carrying out the policy of it's Masters!Which it is enthusiastically doing!Where all of this is heading is the important part!Like WW3,maybe?It is obviously impossible for a Country that was defeated in WW2 to suddenly recover so well artificially,with the burden of reparations to carry!Their constitution was probably altered as a surrender condition too!How could a Country that is blamed for most of the WW2 carnage be now dominating the EU!And most important is why are all of the other EU States bowing down to this arrangement?Their collective stupidity will most certainly lead them to self destruction!
When you take a deeper look at the Rand Corporation papers, is it possible that the military-industrial complex have agreed to divert German technological base to weapons production, for the New World Order, in opposition to China. Under this thesis, they would need to take control of natural resources of Russia. Hence, the first step of a regime change in Russia, then a total take over of Russian resources in partnership with a small number of Russian oligarchs.
Great video!
During the EU referendum in 2016 in the UK I understood the economic benefits and obligations of being an EU member I could not get over the issue of lack of democracy and accountability therefore I decided not to vote either way.
43:10 Apparently Germany is less equal than the USA before tax redistribution.
A fantastic and illuminating interview, where Costas Lapavitsas explains many questions I have struggled to summarize in my thinking with regards to the dominance of the EU by Germany and the German relationship with the PIGS and the countries that make up the Eastern European periphery to the German core.
True.I know find it difficult to distinguish NATO/EU/G7.They act similar.
Break Through News always targets facts and truth, and I always appreciate their analysis. Sadly our Western English language news is heavily censored. This becomes obvious after reading news from India, China, Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia.
I have totally agreed with everything this channel has said, so far, except property ownership. This is where we part ways.
keeping wages down keeps worker skills and ability to produce lower. serfs cannot do the job of skilled workers
Amazing show and great guest. I love Rania, if I could I would ask her to marry me.
For the algo. Great ep.
The sad thing is Europe doesn't see or refuses to admit that the USA is in fact consciously weakening Europe by default. By cutting the mutual relations between Europe and Russia, by exciting the rearmament (which in the end is benefiting the military industrial complex of USA while preventing Europe from investing in constructive investments instead) and ultimately by inciting Russia and Europe in a mutual war, destroying everything in the end.
As it's stated, "it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal".
thanks
Interview this man more. He's right on every subject.Big thumbs up.
What is also important in terms of Germany is the biggest population in all of Europe (except Russia) and the very central location in Europe which makes it a transit country for many goods and people.
And then again the Marshallplan and the billions of dollars the US pumped into West Germany in the cold war are factors as well why the country came back to the top.
Rania & Costas, interesting talk. But you did not explain, at least briefly, how you differentiate the policy outlines between EU Keynesian beginning and its current Neo liberal contours, with ref to EU in general - and specific to Ukraine in particular.
Wish you would in a followup talk.
Same weakness in Australia, Canada, NZ, Japan, Australia is destroying its relationship with it biggest trading partner, China. For US foreign interests.
This is the last gasp of neoliberalism. What comes next? Fascism or socialism?
That depends on what you and I and millions others will do next!
Very long but saw it all! Very interesting but my simple mind remains confused!