How Decades of US-Led Imperialism Destroyed Libya, w/ Matteo Capasso

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  • čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
  • Libya seems to be trapped in endless conflict between rival militias and outside powers, with migrants trapped in neo-slavery and others drowning in the Mediteranean trying to flee to the European. Prior to the 2011 Arab uprisings and subsequent NATO regime change operation that destroyed the country, most outsiders knew little of Libya except for its caricature as a bizarre authoritarian country led by the idiosyncratic Gaddafi. But history did not start in 2011. To understand the Libya of today requires going back many decades.
    To discuss how and why the US-led imperial order destroyed Libya, Rania Khalek was joined by Matteo Capasso, a Marie Curie Research Fellow between the University of Venice and Columbia University.
    Matteo’s latest article here: www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...
    TIME CODES:
    0:00 Intro
    2:06 Libya’s Jamahiriya
    6:00 Impact of sanctions and international isolation on Libya’s economy
    12:28 Accomplishments of Gaddafi and Libya’s revolution
    18:04 Understanding Libya through the context of imperialism
    21:01 Dependency on oil
    26:08 Hybrid war
    30:19 Impact of 1973 civil war in Chad
    37:02 Capitalism & Libya’s ideological contradiction
    40:08 Religious extremism & tribal groups
    47:52 Support for national liberation & then collaboration in war on terror
    53:12 Centrality of war & militarism to US capitalism
    58:37 Emergence of militias in Libya
    1:00:58 How imperialism underlies the ongoing destruction of Libya
    1:06:47 2011 uprising: What really happened?
    1:11:50 Libya’s destruction destabilized Africa
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  • @joycesim
    @joycesim Před 2 lety +16

    Great one. Been wanting to learn more about Libya for a while.

  • @scottlewington4947
    @scottlewington4947 Před 2 lety +29

    George Erbele, I regularly watch Rania’s programs and Katie’s programs and, even though Katie is good, Rania has a much wider and deeper left analysis and a brilliant variety guests. Rania has interviews intellectual activists from the global south who are almost entirely ignored in the west.

    • @oceantransistor
      @oceantransistor Před 2 lety +2

      Katie is good but when it comes down to it I think she'll still vote blue.

    • @JamesWalker-ky5yr
      @JamesWalker-ky5yr Před 2 lety +1

      I don't see how Katie has a program. She doesn't have the sharp mind of a Greenwald, Taibbi or Blumenthal. She's tediously not funny and, at least to me, interrupting and annoying. Different strokes.

    • @valeriexoxo
      @valeriexoxo Před 2 lety

      @@JamesWalker-ky5yr Must’ve picked them up from Dems from her useful idiots show and got them to sub to her Patreon where she has a surprisingly large amount of members. I was a member for 1 whole month last year. The show is ok but not worth $60/yr for me.

  • @leroywhite101
    @leroywhite101 Před 2 lety +15

    Rania my favourite presenter I love watching your analyst and fair comment bless

  • @GEORGEEEJ
    @GEORGEEEJ Před 2 lety +19

    Glad to hear that Rania has joined your reporting. She’s right up there with Ben Norton and Katie Halper and others.

  • @johnb7046
    @johnb7046 Před 2 lety +32

    Love your work Rania, you're doing such important work. Looking forward to watching this and learning something new. Cheers and keep doing what you're doing!

  • @kapa1611
    @kapa1611 Před 2 lety +16

    fantastic interview. it's amazing what we don't get taught about history in the west..

  • @steveschwartz3842
    @steveschwartz3842 Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent interview!

  • @darrell4982
    @darrell4982 Před 2 lety +6

    Hi Rania, love your work. I was in Libya from 2006 to 2011, my time was divided between working in Tripoli and the western desert region. I met and worked with many people from those holding government posts to tribal workers in the desert. In his attempt to understand how the current Libyan mess came to be I think your guest covers outside geopolitical elements but fails to consider the “ real Libyan” citizens in his analysis. Yes great external forces were in play, for one reason only, oil and the wealth it brings but to understand how this mess could happen, that is what factors set up the environment for the government to collapse one absolutely must understand the Libyan peoples. They are a very complex culture and people, Libya is a tribal society and power dynamics are constantly at play and in flux from the highest levels of government all the way down to the basic camel and sheep herders in the desert. One must examine the people in detail just to BEGIN to grasp why all of this has happened.

    • @tchrisbass5650
      @tchrisbass5650 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Explain more

    • @yaoliang1580
      @yaoliang1580 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@tchrisbass5650as usual this is one of those half baked analyst who aren't exactly sure what they are talking about

  • @nedkelly8495
    @nedkelly8495 Před 2 lety +7

    Excellent. BT is helping awake the world. We in NZ follow your work.

  • @sarahali6413
    @sarahali6413 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you 🙏. Great work . Excellent analysis full of insight & wisdom . Lessons we will never learn public institutions.🤞✌️✨

  • @Ihab.A
    @Ihab.A Před 6 měsíci +2

    This is the first time I hear about Matteo Capasso. He seems very very well knowledgeable on political affairs. Thanks for hosting him. Does he have a CZcams channel? I'd like to follow him as well

  • @khubza8999
    @khubza8999 Před 2 lety +10

    THIS ANALYSIS IS SO INCISIVE! SPOT ON.

  • @batessdd
    @batessdd Před 2 lety +5

    Great interview !

  • @huda2379
    @huda2379 Před 2 lety +4

    She has a really good speaking voice very clear!

  • @mithocondriaaa9356
    @mithocondriaaa9356 Před 9 měsíci +1

    i love that these episodes have never or almost never any ads

  • @windwaveswindwaves5329
    @windwaveswindwaves5329 Před 2 lety +4

    good job lady and this italian dude, wow, he's brilliant!

  • @richardmoonstone52
    @richardmoonstone52 Před 2 lety +6

    Fantastic stuff!!

  • @Robert44607
    @Robert44607 Před rokem +2

    Loved it Rania and Matteo……. ❤❤❤

  • @billparsonsartist8565
    @billparsonsartist8565 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love your show Rania. I so much wanted to learn from this episode. But there's a high pitched background noise which made it impossible for me to understand the speaker. Surely you have an audio editing program to eliminate background noise.

  • @kathleankeesler1639
    @kathleankeesler1639 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you.

  • @gofar5185
    @gofar5185 Před 2 lety +4

    "the working class was not generated into a productive force"... highly agree... libya is also a victim of "national oil wealth" in a sense that libya did not see the long term role of the working class in the continuity of revolutionary cause... this "national oil wealth" is what was used to drag soviet-russia into a total economic collapse, ussr source of revenue was 80% from "oil wealth"... but then, russia is an age old empiredom that survived through hard-power, so it cannot perish because of economic collapse...

    • @drakekoefoed1642
      @drakekoefoed1642 Před 2 lety

      china will likely do a lot to get the russian economy tuned up. the strongest move russia could make would be to bring back the ussr with severe penalties for corruption.

  • @EntitledMillennials
    @EntitledMillennials Před 2 lety +8

    Great interview as always. Love ya Rania! Solidarity from our little leftist studio to BTN!

  • @gofar5185
    @gofar5185 Před 2 lety +3

    please accept my bows my respects for the true stories (from A to Z) in the last years of muammar ghaddafi era-libya...

  • @longyou8254
    @longyou8254 Před 2 lety +2

    Thumbs up

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr Před 2 lety +4

    We need to take hold of critical resources and infrastructure and use them only for common, sovereign human interest.

  • @educationfirst8868
    @educationfirst8868 Před 2 lety +3

    Read the green book

  • @anthonydietrich9581
    @anthonydietrich9581 Před 2 lety +1

    Where can one access Matteo's research outputs...?

    • @drakekoefoed1642
      @drakekoefoed1642 Před 2 lety

      get some expertise with search engines. google will limit what you see but you will find some that do not. run his name, find his web site if he has one, look for videos on odysee, rokfin, and blogs all over. one thing will lead to another.

  • @drakekoefoed1642
    @drakekoefoed1642 Před 2 lety +4

    the gold dinar threatened the petrodollar and the whole dollar denominated system. i think that's why usa killed khadafi.

  • @fredtan1506
    @fredtan1506 Před 2 lety +1

    I watch BT regularly.

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr Před 2 lety +2

    Libya was the only thing hilding back French imperialism in West Africa. Libya would likely be helping or at least advising Niger.

  • @victorianilsen763
    @victorianilsen763 Před 2 lety +2

    ty appreciate the journalism...vs propaganda

  • @DataJYdocs
    @DataJYdocs Před 2 lety +2

    .🔍👌

  • @guyassawessena
    @guyassawessena Před 2 lety +2

    They will pay for human sufferig they triggwrd on other countries.

  • @CodAddict324
    @CodAddict324 Před rokem +1

    😲😲😲😲

  • @mavalupindo7672
    @mavalupindo7672 Před 2 měsíci

    Africa rise

  • @gofar5185
    @gofar5185 Před 2 lety +1

    highly agree to the emergence of the "comprador class" that started the "softly killing internal libya" before the then opposition parties collaborating with western supporters to topple the very muammar ghaddafi and revolutionary loyalists...

    • @samaval9920
      @samaval9920 Před 6 měsíci

      Even Western leaders seem to
      have been killed when they confronted large private banks
      even US presidents like Andrew aJackson, Abraham Lincoln,!etc.
      Also Manuel Noriega of Panama,
      Sadam Hussein of Iraq, etc,

  • @drakekoefoed1642
    @drakekoefoed1642 Před 2 lety +2

    even poor countries can make jeans. they should caution the population against usa junk food and such, but they can have their own brand of jeans.

  • @Zerpentsa6598
    @Zerpentsa6598 Před 2 lety +2

    Touched by America. Ruined.

  • @wnklee6878
    @wnklee6878 Před 2 lety +5

    That is exactly what an empire does. Why be surprised?

    • @ryancouture1436
      @ryancouture1436 Před 2 lety +1

      Who's surprised? Probably those who lack an understanding of Imperial dynamics and/or the fact that the US has been engaged in empire building pretty much forever. A better question would be how do we expand this understanding of geopolitics in a way that could lead to viable resistance to US empire? Or, is it a problem that we continue expanding empire if it means destroying entire countries?

    • @wnklee6878
      @wnklee6878 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ryancouture1436 We are much too self absorbed and ignorant to understand. We are just like cows on the meadow.

    • @r.gronkowski856
      @r.gronkowski856 Před 2 lety

      All i can say is America and the Europeans have been LOOTING & ROBBING the global south for the past 5 millenniums, i think it's time to stop the bloodshed and this madness

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr Před 2 lety +17

    Gaddafi also brutally repressed slave traders and slave owners. The death penalty was in nearly all cases mandatory for any participation in the slave trade. Long live Qaddafi!

    • @moosadiamond3965
      @moosadiamond3965 Před 2 lety

      Gaddafi was a better ruler the stupid Bush the whole middle east is burning because of your stupid imperial freemason governments they take absolutely no accountability for their actions the middle east was a flourishing and prosperous country you guys came to disturb the peace

  • @DragonTiger388
    @DragonTiger388 Před 2 lety +1

    All Oils /Gas Producing Countries Under Sanctions should Unite to raise the Oils /Gas Prices 20 % or more on the Weaponised Sanctions Countries led by the US REGIME....

    • @drakekoefoed1642
      @drakekoefoed1642 Před 2 lety

      the main thing is to strike back against sanctions. russia is doing it very well. the empire is about to fall. it cannot enforce its bs against any sort of solidarity

  • @waltmccarthy9837
    @waltmccarthy9837 Před 2 lety +1

    All for Israel.

  • @tee5634
    @tee5634 Před 2 lety +2

    I hate these armchair revolutionary analysis with big words but are critical with any actions that doesn't fit their pre packaged analysis.
    He sit there blaming Libya for its destruction. The US and Nato destroyed Libya not Khaddafi.
    She just sits there asking no questions and not disputing any information. Terrible interview

  • @scottstokes822
    @scottstokes822 Před 2 lety +3

    Now you see why I feel for poor Mr. Putin.

    • @shabbataisevi497
      @shabbataisevi497 Před 2 lety

      Putin and Qaddafi are not comparable, sorry

    • @scottstokes822
      @scottstokes822 Před 2 lety +2

      @@shabbataisevi497 the USA starting war for profit is

    • @scottstokes822
      @scottstokes822 Před 2 lety +1

      @@shabbataisevi497 taking down country’s is

  • @radojkapopovic7498
    @radojkapopovic7498 Před 2 lety +4

    Vi borde fyra Gaddafis födelsedag årligen. Han får inte bli glömd!

    • @shabbataisevi497
      @shabbataisevi497 Před 2 lety +1

      Qaddafi vil virkelig aldrig være glemt, har du læste Den Grønne Bog? Han havde en rigtig god analyse af parlamentarisk demokrati.

  • @myresponsesarelimited7895

    Your so beautiful Rania!!! 😍 I was hoping we could maybe catch up later?...hang out, get married, have a baby or something 😉😆😆
    Just kidding- love your work!

    • @theosphilusthistler712
      @theosphilusthistler712 Před 2 lety

      And once you possess her a hijab, chador or niqab will do nothing to hide her beauty from the gaze of other men. You'd have to go the full bag.

    • @myresponsesarelimited7895
      @myresponsesarelimited7895 Před 2 lety

      @@theosphilusthistler712 😁 I'm a kiwi mate- we're pretty laid back, women wear whatever they like 👍

    • @shabbataisevi497
      @shabbataisevi497 Před 2 lety +2

      @@theosphilusthistler712 possess? damn. wtf.

    • @theosphilusthistler712
      @theosphilusthistler712 Před 2 lety +1

      @@myresponsesarelimited7895 So am I mate. That's why I thought I'd play along with your silliness. Pro tip. Just have the window running underneath, not visible. That way it's possible to absorb what is being said. Just another shower thought now. It's possibly not random that we often find people whose thinking we find beautiful also to be physically beautiful. The eyes are not connected to the brain. The eyes are the brain. They're part of the brain protruding through the skull. So looking into the eyes is a direct portal into the thinking, beautiful or otherwise.

    • @myresponsesarelimited7895
      @myresponsesarelimited7895 Před 2 lety

      @@theosphilusthistler712... Pono- che mean my bro, ha yeah I probably should've guessed, it's mostly only really us, ozys, Irish and Scottish that are cheeky on here, most c's are dryballs, proud and oh so clever.
      Not gonna lie though- was a little cheeky truth in it, always did find those Mediterranean women exotically intoxicatingly enchanting, I had to end it with Gal Gadot when I found out she was Israeli, not gonna lie- she was devastated (don't ask her though cos she's a liar 😐🤣) ...wasn't antisemitism honest! ...but those people are out the gate🤷‍♂️
      ...aaaany-ho - that's why I'm low key howling Rania- need another extremely hot Mediterranean women to fall asleep thinking about 😉😁😁

  • @frankrizzo7781
    @frankrizzo7781 Před rokem +1

    Libya had a hand in the way it was perceived on the world stage. Gaddafi engaged in some pretty horrible terrorist actions. The were planting bombs in west German night clubs intended in killing US service men. The financed and provided the explosive to took down the airliner in lLockerbie. These were attacks that killed mainly on civilians. They also provided 30 tons of plastic explosives to the Irish Republican Army and purchased several Stinger missiles. It was 1985 or 86 when President Reagan otlrdered the bombing of Libya which was successful except for damage to the French Embassy but maybe if the Frenxh had not forced the US planes to fly an extra 2500 air miles maybe our aim would have been a little better. After that something changed in Libya and it leader. Eventually Libya end up giving women more rights than any other African country. It started encourages business and Libya started prosper. When it finally paid off the finest from the bombing it turned a corner and things look up. It really was crazy Hillary R Clinton that went out of her way to destroy Gaddafi during the Spring with no regard for the consequences to the country. Gaddafi made the mistake that the west would not let him fall because of the consequences if he did. He was wrong, Libya end up having televised slave auctions and Hillary r Clinton was pat herself on the back.

    • @user-oi4dh2zf8h
      @user-oi4dh2zf8h Před 10 měsíci +2

      Stop smoking crack please,If theres a regime that does terrorist actions no one is more evil and destructive than ankle SAMMY

  • @grahamt5924
    @grahamt5924 Před 2 lety

    Libya was pay back for Lockerbie. Also, libya crushed Europe for a 1000 years, so now they get a taste of what they did.

    • @samaval9920
      @samaval9920 Před 6 měsíci

      1)! Others have investigated Lockerbie &’reject Western msm.
      2) No country has occupied Europe for 1000 years?! Sounds like a fantasy historically warped
      Moroccan Arabs were in Spain & Portugal for 100Os of years, England in Ireland for 800 years,
      Roman Republic & Empire together might have had 1000 years. All versions of Libya from
      BCE times + ancient Egypt to
      21st century never invaded Europe.