Barry Bonds Key Swing Mechanics - Nothing to do with Rear Legged Launch
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
- I break down Barry Bonds swing and point out what he did that made him so great. It has nothing at all to do with rear legged launch because that is not what he really did.
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Why the steroid apologies? Dude was greatest hitter of his generation pre use.
Apologized because I felt it was needed as I was about to talk about how great this guy was despite his cheating. My opinion.
I dunno bout that... The Kid, Ken Griffey Jr. was the best hitter in the 90s! Nothing do with hitting, the fact that Griffey was the best defensive center fielder in baseball during the early - mid 90s. Puts him on different levels!
Barry Bonds is the GOAT, he can’t be limited to a generational player.
Yea, it's a shame one of the top 3 contact hitters ever is gonna have that reputation forever.
Griffey was better when they were both natural.
I think bonds was about a 525 HR guys with no juice.. maybe 575
Thank you. Barry Bonds swing is the best I have ever seen.
Great swing, for sure. Just got tired of all these hitting gurus misinforming everyone, claiming he suddenly snapped the barrel towards the catcher when, in reality, his trunk rotatation comes first and pulls the barrel into the zone
I grew up before the Bonds,s era.. He uses the same approach we used back in the 70,s. that is a simple direct route to the ball. letting the ball come to you. not trying to generate power to drive it but letting the ball provide the power for you. In which case you take as much swing out as you can. it takes very little movement to drive a baseball thats coming at you. If you time it right you can hit a baseball over 400 feet with very little effort. It's more about the hands than anything else. what happens to your wrists at the point of contact can be the difference between a pop-up routine fly ball or line drive. the rest of you body just needs to have a firm foundation. with that being said hitting a baseball is like baking a cake from scratch 500 ways to do it and maybe 200 of them work. there really is no set rule on how to hit. that's the problem with drug accusations. you can take 20 players and give them the same thing some will excell others not at all. using drugs is a weak argument considering how many factors go into hitting a baseball at that level. it's just a cop out
Great breakdown. Can we get a breakdown in Mookie Betts. I find him fascinating cuz he’s 5’9 175 but can get to 35-40 homers a year. Maybe a breakdown if anything changed from 2016-2018 when he won his first MVP to now? Thanks!
Betts is worth going over. Jamie Cevallos takes about his best pound for pound list of hitters, and it's a great perspective to judge hitting mechanics from. I love judge but if he were the size of Willie mays, mookie Betts, basically anyone else, he wouldn't be hitting glancing blow slices out in right field
@@TheBaseballSwing ah so you do know about Jamie’s work lol. Did you see how he dissected my swing? (Vlog 109) would love your take on it as well
@@patrickgoodman4576 Oh yeah. More than know of him I'm a big fan. I will review Vlog 109 soon and get back to you, but I'm sure Jamie was right on top of it.
The key though is keeping the weight back. Yes, he's got a foot down. But it's not weighted.
Yes, the front foot is largely unweighted. A big reason bonds gets that trade mark spin out. It's not just cool it tells me he's rotating with speed and force which given his weight being back, he should be doing
My oldest daughter never saw Bonds hit yet she has that pre pitch bat whip. Since 8 years old her coaches tried to stop her from doing it till i told them to leave her alone about it.
Pre-swing motion, in my experience, when it comes naturally, is almost always a good thing. You'll see it a lot in the younger boys before they start getting strong because they need it to get started - until it's wrongly taught out of them. Modern swing instruction talks about an early load or coil, but without the fluidity or the natural building up of energy, they are in essence trying to go from zero to 100 in a split second. Good for her and keep those well intentioned, misinformed coaches away from her.
I know I promised you the last word, but I agree with what you just said 100%
You're missing a major aspect of what Bonds is actually doing, but it's a good video.
Cpatriot, thanks for jumping in. So I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on what I'm missing.
It's like a Golf swing in essence.
similar is the word.
He would have never made it to 700 HR without steroids.
You use an awful lot of words to describe what the eyes so clearly see, but do you understand what you are seeing? In every one of the videos you deacribe how Bonds hips are opening going into heel plant. The best image is actually the last one with Williams. You can clearly see both of their hips are uncoiling and the back knee is starting in before any weight is on their front foot. Has the toe touched...yes. Has the heel come down, yes but it is simultaneous. If you understand the kinectic chain you must realize the process of uncoiling started before you see it. So here is my question, what could possibly be causing his hips to fire and the back knee drive in and down for it to happen at the same time as the front foot lands. There is only one answer... the rear leg. Hence the term rear legged launch. Every time in this video when you say "he hasn't launched yet", his hips have already started. That sir, is launch.
A hitter builds energy to launch the BAT.! The rear knee working forward and down is the beginning of the kinetic chain, NOT a launch. As that knee begins, the hips then open, the bat begins to flatten, and the whole time that's going on, a hitter is gaining stretch across the upper body as the shoulders are resisting. So the bat barrel has still not launched. It's not until the upper body has stretched to its max that it begins to unwind and deliver the bat into the zone...that is the launch. Schenck will have you believe the barrel is launched using the haunted wrist snap. The snap you see guts rehearsing in the on-deck circle' yet none of them actually do it in a real AB. Get it now?
@@TheBaseballSwingI don't agree with the wrist snap which is why I didn't say anything about it. The "launch position" is when front foot is at max distance fron hands, the final moment exactly before the the swing begins. So if there is a kinectic chain it starts with a foot in the ground. The hands do not start the launch, except in poor hitters. Every great hitter launches on every pitch, thats the only way to get to a 90+ fastball. The hands happen last, which is why they are able to shut it down. But the kinectic chain has already started from the ground up. Finda hitting coach anywhere that says the "launch position" is where the hips are open and the bat is already laid flat. Dont bother looking, you won't find one. Do you get it now?
Sounds like you missed the part where I said the bat flattens as the stretch is ongoing, meaning the hands are staying back. Everything prior to that, the BAT is NOT launching. While our debate here is somewhat nuanced and believe in what I'm saying. I do appreciate your thoughts and do not believe it is without merit. Hope to hear from you again.
@@TheBaseballSwing I appreciate what you are saying and your responses. I think we look at launch differently. To me, launch is not about the bat, it is about the swing. You launch the swing, not the bat. The bat is just along for the ride. To launch properly the engine has to start first. The engine is the lower half. And if the engine has already started when the front toe hits, then it has started from the rear leg, which is the only thing firmly planted in the ground. Just watch good hitters take good pitches. The hips and back leg are already going. They have already launched "the swing", but not their bat.
@johncarbo2983 yes we are in agreement. It's teacherman that says all the greats "launch the barrel" from the rear leg. He literally says that. Not the initial move or the beginning of the unwinding...he says the bat launches. Yet it doesnt.
This guy should be in the HOF already
I can't stand Bonds...I just think he's a prick... Hate the steroid use as well.... BUT... They have nothing to do with his hand/eye coordination in the box. He was ridiculous! Crowding the plate, choking up, and smooth as hell! The man has 3 times as many walks as he does home runs! He was better at NOT swinging than he was at swinging and that is crazy!
Couldn't agree more. The shorter bat, standing on top of the plate, all should've been mentioned in my breakdown.
SWING GREAT , but superior athlete ,yes if he hadn't got big ,from steroids which also gave him more years in Baseball, his swing is great ,his person is deficient , so no one I would want any child to emulate
Yeah, not my cup of tea either. Just felt like his mechanics were something that could help a player
He lifts his front leg !! Meaning rear leg power
Mechanics do not matter theyre not what make you hit or throw harder. If they were girls will be able to throw as hard as men and they never will because is not mechanics. You have to get stronger and develop the body to make it transfer the strength into batting and throwing. And you do that by enganging in weight training and a good throwing and batting program. And do it over time. You cannot hit like batry bonds just by trying to look like him or to have the same mechanics. Please stop being ignorant.
I'll stop being ignorant only because you said please. For now, I'm going to politely ask you to move along. When you complete your rehab, maybe we can try this again.
@@TheBaseballSwing please stop focusing on mechanics your wasting time. And your teaching people the wront thing to improve. It doesnt matter if you look like barry bonds thats not how it works.
Bonds has two HOF worthy careers. One pre steroids, one post steroids. The roids didn't make him great, they kept him great.
I agree Bonds pre-steroids career was tracking as HOF worthy, but the steroids did way way more than keep him at that level. His production after the juice elevated him far beyond what he was capable of naturally. I mean would Bonds have it 73 HRs without steroids? And before you say that PEDs weren't even ban by MLB until 2003 that's not accurate. They were outlawed in 1991. They weren't allowed to test for them until 2003.
He was a slightly above average hitter that demonstrates how steroids give you an advantage. He was not only a steroid user but also an awful person. According to pretty much everyone he played with he was a jerk and treated everyone like crap. Screw him, hope he never makes the HoF
HOF is based on skills related to the game of baseball, do you think Ty Cobb was a great guy, no. Also Bonds is the greatest hitter to ever live, not even close.
You Bonds haters clearly dont know baseball. He was always a well above average hitter. He was the best all-around player of the 90s by far, better than Griffey, and the roids just gave him longevity. Get your facts straight before you speak. You 🤡🤡🤡
You need to go see his recent interview. Very introverted person… but I’ll let you be the judge after you view it
It's crazy that you're trying to get attention and money by hating on another man. Teacher Man teaches EXACTLY what these guys are doing. Even Barry, Manny, and some other greats came out and said he was right and they didn't even know they were doing it that way. Get a different job bro
You are certainly entitled to your opinion about the swing, but so am I. The difference is I'm putting my name on it, and I'm basing it on 50 years experience in the game. I'm also making my case by showing video to support it. Also, I've stated it over and over I DO NOT know schenck nor do I ever go after him personally. His swing theory is littered with flaws and that's what I address so my viewers can benefit. You have zero right to say I hate him. You also make a fool of yourself by thinking you know why I have this channel. I'm more than content with my name and how I've lived my life and FYI genius get a clue how money is made on youtube. I don't make a penny. Schenck on the other hand releases content and does a masterful job of marketing himself. Good for him. That doesn't in anyway take away from his message or my belief that just like you and I he loves the game. You support Schencks theory and think my thoughts are baseless, great. Tell me why like others have. Explain specifically where my theory of the swing is wrong and why. Otherwise, don't waste everyone's time with your analysis of me and my motivation.
@@joecolucci2219 how are you basing it on opinions when the facts are there? You describe the same thing but say it's wrong because you're trying to put it in your words just to put down his teachings. This is the toxic and unlikeable side of the baseball community. Just because it's not what you were taught, it has to be wrong. What he teaches is right, and it's the facts.
Wow, that's a lot of assumptions. Firs,t you have no idea how I was taught or how I came about my belief system on how to swing the bat. Second, everyone who has a channel is exposing their beliefs or opinion, schenck included. And finally, if you think I'm saying the same thing as Schenck, there is a major disconnect happening somewhere. Not one person has ever said that. Quite the opposite. I'm saying slot the bat and rotate forward. Schenck says snap the barrel and tilt away from the ball. Couldn't be more opposite. That's facts. I'd suggest that your misunderstanding of the swing and blind faith in Schenck is why you think my stating an opinion and stating facts when appropriate is toxic.