I just acquired a 2018 Crosstrek after trading in my 2015 Crosstrek for it, and there's only one point in this video I would disagree with. That point is that I absolutely find thrills in driving my new car. However, they are different thrills from the ones I used to find when I had a Mustang GT or my Mazda Miata. What I find thrilling in the Crosstrek is seeing a dirt road and being able to say, "Hey, let's see what's down that way!" instead of just glancing wistfully as I drive by. I was quite thrilled to be able to drive my 2015 right out onto the beach at the cape on Hatteras Island instead of having to park on the pavement and trudge through the hot sand. I'm also very thrilled every time I can look back on a fun day of driving through the country roads (paved and dirt) of West Virginia and then realize I still have gas left in the tank :D Great video summary of the Crosstrek, thanks for sharing it :)
christopher sigmund Hey, I wanted to buy a Crosstrek at the beginning of the 2019. So how do you feel about driving the Crosstrek on an incline road ? I mean when you drive the car to climb on a montain, do you feel the engine shivering ? Because I really enjoy going roadtrip in the U.S, so I really care about the performance of the engine when it climbs on a high mountain. I’m driving a 2014 Honda Civic, and whenever I drive the car on a high mountain, I cannot reach 60 mph because the engine is weak and I have the feeling if I push the pedal to 60 mph or over, the engine would explode because of the loud noise from the hood. So could you give me some reviews about the 2018 Crosstrek on that criteria ? Thank you
@@zacharyreynolds4303 Yeah, fast or quick are relative. A RAV4Prime is about as quick 0-60MPH as a GTO Judge or a Testarossa. It's not even considered "quick" these days. A new Camry can outcorner or outbrake many performance cars from the 90s, yet it's considered "bland" these days.
I already liked the Crosstrek. The 2018 just seems like an amazing package. If I was buying a new practical car in the next year, this would be it. Bravo Subaru.
The eternal dilemma of car buying - wait for the unproven, next year generation with better tech; or buy the previous generation with proven components.
While I agree with the sentiment, remember that the Crosstrek is based on the Impreza which has been out for nearly a year now. Given that the chassis and technology have had that time to work out any issues, I'd have no problem getting one of the first Crosstreks to hit dealer floors.
+Flame Beats I had one of the very first Xbox 360's (it was from the second wave released to stores) and somehow it still works just fine today! My original Xbox died in a lightning storm though. :(
Flame Beats I did that with my mountain bike. It turns out that the frames snaps and there was no warranty. So it helps waiting a year or two after a major redesign.
No such car buying dilemma exist if you are able to learn how to fix what you break. You just buy a car that doesn't need a certified tech with a supercomputer for diagnosis and then you don't buy another car for 40 years.
Thanks for the review. I just bought a 2020 6sp MT Premium Crosstrek and I couldn't have said it better. This is a great daily driver, having the manual was a highlight for me, it gives you that much more connection to the driving experience and with the 4 wheel drive, cargo capacity, 27-30 MPG and 5 star safety rating for under $27,000 all in...it's easily one of the best values anywhere.
I just purchased my 2018 Crosstrek with 53k miles on it, felt like a brand new vehicle. Started to adjust to my driving habits and now fits me like a glove. The acceleration is decent and good enough for me to safely pass anyone on the highway or merge onto a fast paced highway easily. It’s comfortable and quiet. I am not sure what you mean by there’s no excitement with the way it drives, it drives just fine. We are not at Le Mans 😑🤣
+ron s agreed! It's a massive improvement. The only sound system (and now the Crosstrek) I've listened to in a Subaru and been impressed. Glad they addressed that area!
AVO makes a kick butt kits for the boxer 4 engine. I have the AVO stage two kit on my Scion FRS and more then doubled my horse power. Here is a link for information: www.avoturbo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=257:subaru-crosstrek-xv-turbocharger-kit&catid=3:general-news
Yeah, back in the mid 2000's in the USA, EVERY Subaru model could be had with a turbocharged boxer engine AND manual transmission. I believe 2005 was the last model year for that. Models include the Outback 2.5XT, Forester 2.5XT, Baja Turbo, Legacy 2.5GT, and of course, the Impreza WRX. The biggest difference was, every turbo engine was the EJ255 except for the WRX which had the EJ205.
So Better trans Better engine Better chassis Better suspension Better tech Sounds like you should trade up Lel for not being a sports car you seemed to enjoy this one alot
I just purchased a 2023 Crosstrek Limited, which is the final year that the 2nd gen Crosstrek will be built. The larger 2.5L engine with 30 additional horsepower and torque which became available on the Sport and Limited trims starting in 2021 really helped the Crosstrek. Great cars.
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
EinChris75 it's a conspiracy, theres a plan to make everyone in the world drive automatics before pushing the autonomous cars...sleep with your eyes open and also keep your blinds opened 🙃🙃😵😵😵
I picked up a Sunshine orange '18 about 3 weeks ago. I'm 6'7" and absolutely amazed at how I fit in the front seat. My last ride was a 4 cyl automatic (had to be auto or I grinded my shins into the firewall!) '97 Wrangler, so this Crosstrek is a roomy speed demon compared to my Jeep! Have to say I love your videos. Keep it up man! Thanks.
I have the Premium trim 2018 Crosstrek. Always really wanted one, test drove one in early 2016 and it didn't end up working out. Bought my 2018, then, last August after my mom totaled her Forester and was amazingly protected from any major injury. I have about 6500 miles on it now and I am loving it. Great handling, fuel economy and infotainment, just an all around fantastic car. Hoping I can keep it (problem free) for years to come.
Mike Calderon I did the same thing. I absolutely love my 2018 Crosstrek w/6-speed manual. Thanks EE for the great review, this is going to help me explain exactly why I opted for it.
Tucsonan Dude shifter feels solid. Occasionally getting into reverse is just a bit stiff, but that's too be expected. Transitions during acceleration are as smooth as can be
Coming up next. Engineering Explained adds turbo charger and upgrades suspension components of his 2016 Crosstrek to make it better than the 2018 model.
I dont understand why they dont offer the Crosstrak as a manual in Europe.. People here dont like automatics, yet they refuse to give us this existing transmission.
Xzstnce EU emissions standards are so strict it's bordering on a joke. See things like Diesel Gate. So many models are moving to CVTs and Start/Stop systems to improve emissions for congestion charges and fleet fuel economy statistics. If it wasn't for the Prius, Toyota would be screwed, as they are the last of the big automakers to adopt wide spread direct injection. So almost all of their standard models are CVT with Start/Stop. It's just the sign of the times thanks to obnoxious environmental regulations.
Subaru really made huge improvements throughout with the 2018 Crosstrek! I would normally choose the manual and usually wouldn't even think about the CVT when a manual is offered. However, I would choose the CVT in this for no other reason than to get X-Mode, which provides Hill Decent Control and what is essentially low-range for off-roading, going up steep inclines with loose terrain and ice surfaces, getting through really deep snow, etc..
Thanks for the informative and objective review. We bought a 2016 Crosstrek on an impulse buy, and ended up LOVING it! Like it so much, even though the 2018 is improved in many ways, no way we could trade it in on a new one.
Maria Smith - unless you want to shift gears yourself with a proper 3-pedal manual transmission. Don't get me wrong, I've lived with a Subaru that was equipped with Eyesight for a month. Did I love it? Absolutely. Would I want to daily drive it? Hell no. I'd reserve such a feature for a road trip vehicle, not my daily driven vehicle, where it has the potential to diminish my driving skills.
The 2nd gen fits bigger tires. It's available with a 2.5L now. It has a temp gauge now. It lost the rear bumper cutout for a foglight or hitch. It still doesn't offer the manny-tranny with a sunroof...or the powerful motor. It still can't "lock" the center diff. Until I can get an affordable replacement at any autoparts store, I don't want factory LED lights.
Wait. Removed manual from Europe but it's still available in America, which is notorious for their "lack of" manual driving skills? - I don't understand, Subaru... Edit: I have to edit this. In Switzerland you can get the 6 gear manual transmission if you get the 2.0i or 2.0d engine. Probably because Subaru is quite successfully selling their cars there? Well I know that Subarus are popular there for sure. So my guess is it's only for selected countries?
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
Nope, I was wrong: was looking at the 2017 model, not the 2018 //I'm not sure, but I think here in Italy you can get this model with the 2 liters engine, 6 gears manual transmission. It's the diesel version though. Or at least this is how it's advertised.
I traded up from a Kia Forte and have absolutely zero regrets. I was getting 38 mpg in the forte and I get 34 in my crosstrek. I love the storage capacity and safety and the way it drives.
We bought the 2018 Crosstrek in the cool grey khaki for my wife back in the summer of 2018 with the mid tier upgrade package. No complaints so far my wife loves the car.
+Engineering Explained - I would like to see a comparison to the VW Golf Alltrack. It has a much more peppy engine that is hard to not like. The Subaru 2.0 N/A is so underwhelming to the point of poking my eyes out. I drove it for 5 minutes and returned it to the dealer and was like not a chance in the world you could sell that to me. Subaru: 152 hp, 145 lb tq - 33 mpg highway VW Golf Alltrack: 170 hp, 199 lb tq - 32 mpg highway Both AWD, both have raised suspensions over their sibling variants. Both have automatics and manual transmission options. For me personally, the new Gen 3 1.8 TSI engine found in the VW is far superior to the new 2.0 N/A engine in the Subaru line-up. And both use their company's new global chassis. Please do a comparison video!
Makes sense. Even though the Outback has the slightly more powerful engine, the Crosstrek is 400-500 LBS lighter.. that much weight definitely makes a difference..
The only reason I've not upgraded my 2011 Legacy is Subaru stopped offering higher trim packages with the manual transmission. I really don't understand why they do that...
I guess there is not enough demand for a fully loaded car with a manual trannie...but just enough to keep the option available, but to minimize risk...keep them with basic packages.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. They make people choose between nice upgrades or a manual making the small percent that like manuals pick the upgrades instead. Which further brings down the sales.
I love the way you approached this review. Most reviews of this type car I see are done by people (including you) that drive sports cars or cars verging on super cars etc. Then they expect every car/crossover/suv to have the most sporty transmission, tightest stearing, and able to throw the back of the car out through every corner... You approach this as the car it is, "it can get up to speed easily to get on the highway and overtake, but it's not an exciting drive". And I appreciated how you almost mocked it at the end. No one buys a crosstrek to drag race their friends haha
Engineering Explained I am happy Subaru has included a larger gas tank. I feel like too many auto makers have shrunk gas tanks as efficiency has improved, especially in smaller cars. There is something to be said about being able to fill up less when on long road trips.
As someone with a 2016 Impreza, I was especially interested in hearing _your_ opinion about this car, because most reviewers just focus on how nice everything looks, the better sound system, and how its all based on the new global platform. They don't say anything else that's really useful when compared to previous years, especially regarding the manual. I feel a little bit resentful that I don't have the 2017 model.
mericle123 I have not driven through snow yet. But from what I’ve seen on CZcams is that it can do extremely well and I think Impreza is better looking for the 2017 year instead of the new cross trek
I have the 2018 and the best way I can describe it is that it is a very good car and does everything fantastically. Nothing more. It's the perfect size, height, usability, mpg (roughly 26 average). I love it, I don't plan on trading it for anything in a while unless something changes drastically like a turbo model or a 2.5 sport engine.
Firstly, how can anyone listen to this guys high pitched voice, it grates on my ears ! Secondly, at the end of the day, this new XV (as we call it in the UK) is a newer design and costs a lot more, but doesnt mean to say the old model is suddenly rubbish. Just watched a POV clip of a 2012 XV 2.0i CVT and it sounded great. Id rather buy that and save my money.
I had a 2013 Crosstrek. I loved the ground clearance, AWD system, and versatility. However, it was the SLOWEST vehicle I have ever driven and my first car was a 1991 Mustang LX with the punitive 2.3L engine which didn't set the bar high. I had the replace the driver side axle at 69K miles and the passenger at 73K. It burned a quart and a half of oil every 5000 miles. The bluetooth phone connection was AWEFUL and no one could hear me over the background noise when I attempted to us it. The MPG was amazing for an AWD car, my highest average was 36mpg with the average hovering in the 32mpg range. The rear had started to get round right before I traded it at 122K miles. I don't know what the problem was as I wanted rid of it before I had to address it. I think it is the ideal daily driver for anyone in a snowy state, I just wish it had more power and I hope Subaru has fixed the issues I experienced with mine.
Had anyone noticed that the text that appears on the video (top left) for each improvement indicates 6. infotainment/audio 4:48 and also 9. infotainment/audio 6:46.
I've had my '18 for a month. Given that I wanted a manual, I went with the premium, and therefore couldn't get the HK audio. I did get the Rockford Fosgate upgrade, and it does sound very good.
Here's my "beef" with Subaru; I love them.. Love my forester 6m (2015). However; Subaru falls "flat" with their engines (pun intended). Good engines; decent power. However; if Subaru can offer a 2.0 non turbo in the cross trek, why not offer a "performance" version with the WRX 2.0 turbo? As well, why offer a 2.5 170 hp in the Forester and then offer the 2.0 as the only engine options? Subaru needs a "midrange" flat 4 that is normally aspirated (for fuel mileage) yet puts out around 200 hp.
They need to learn from Ford. The new 2020 Ford Escape with 250hp/275ftlbs, AWD, a factory tow package w/ 3.Klbs tow rating, LED lighting, 200lbs lighter and more aerdynamic, HUD and full LCD instrument cluster, and even the rear seats recline.
They don't have the demand for it as what they have is wildly popular. Subaru North America said they'd consider it if they ever needed to do it to bolster sales, not before.
@@af4237 Its a huge mistake, as image matters. The image of the Mustang for example is massively boosted by the availability of the Mustang GT, Bullitt, and GT500, even if the majority of sales are the ecoboost. It simply gives the body street cred. Subarus are earning a reputation for being glacial appliances devoid of fun-factor, and that's not a good thing. So even if its a loss leader, offer the XT trim even if it only makes 5% of sales. It will also get reviewers like Car and Driver and others to give it rave reviews and drool all over it, which will get people interested in the chassis that may settle for the low power engine.
Bought my "18 XV (= Crosstrek) a couple of months ago. I absolutely love it! Awesome vehicle. Not super powerful but it's got all you need, especially if you want to avoid speeding fines. It handles better on 225/65/18 tyres than my previous 2006 Liberty (= Legacy) 3.0R on 215/45/17s, and despite a lot less power, is more fun to drive around town.
woohunter1 it's been done before, some lad made one into a WRX! dp.subaru.com/dp13-1-mods-wrx-crosstrek It's a good option if you have the finances to throw at it. If enough people ask we may get a WRX or STi factory run on them.
This is the review I have been looking for! My new commute will be roughly 130 miles round trip so I have been heavily researching the subaru lineup and have been debating between the Legacy and Crosstrek. This video may have made my decision for me.
plasma246 unfortunately, yes, as well as the demise of large naturally aspirated engines and weird-but-cool stuff like windy windows and 5-cylinder engines, not to mention that everything is so heavy nowadays.
With V6 engines' ability to output the same or more horse power than V8 rivals, why is that an issue? When my 2.0T can outperform a V8 from decades ago, is there really a reason for V8s on everyday cars?
I bought a new 2018 Subaru XV (Crosstrek) a month ago after much review watching/reading and test drives and I'm very happy I did. The interior is spacious and comfortable. Living here in Sydney, Australia our roads are very average so the ride in the Subaru is comfortable. Acceleration is more than adequate in city/suburban settings and the steering is light, responsive and confident. The CV transmission (we don't have the manual option but there are paddles if you're into that) is solid though tends to need high revs for a change in the upper gears. I've recently taken it out onto motorways and highways that included significantly steep inclined mountain climbs and, even though it had to work at it, the Subaru did keep up with other cars doing 100+ kph but I was conscious of not letting the revs go too high for the first 1,000km of its life. Everything worked well - the sat. nav., the music system, the a/c, lane departure (which can be turned off), voice recognition and brakes. I haven't used the cruise control yet as I'm wanting a change in speeds and revs to help the engine settle in. Another trip outside the city limits also had the same results and the XV (Crosstrek) had a respectable 6L/100km fuel economy.
SalveMonesvol Torque, fuel economy, and emissions. The S2000 has no low end torque for easy maneuvering around traffic, gets horrendous fuel economy given its 2.0L (or 2.2) displacement, and is certainly not designated a PZEV. I should know...I own both. The Subaru may not be powerful but given how efficient it is, it doesn't do bad at all. The S2000 gets away with low torque because who cares if you need to wring it out? That's its purpose.
Because it only takes about 60hp to race between stop lights and 20hp to cruise the interstate highways, which is what 99% of drivers do. 200hp is fun but if you gotta scream to 6000rpm to get it, you're not really gonna be doing that except maybe on the merging ramps. In short, everyone overestimates their *need* for horsepower.
I just got a new 2018 pearl white crosstrek premium and I really like the smooth suspension and the stereo system. So far loving the car. Previous car 2007 Mazda CX7 awd.
Just got my 2018 Crosstrek with a 6 speed manual. Much agreed with sir Jason, its a much quieter, more efficient car, and better riding car. It could use a bit more power, but it's really not a deal breaker for me. If anything, its part of the cars charm
I might make mine into a Crosstrek WRX or STI but I don't know if it'll mess with my Eyesight system. But I'd need mess with the wiring, probably replace the tranny and find a rebuilt WRX or STI motor and a shop that could do it all. Mess with the exhaust, too. Just want to confuse Mustangs when I blast past with that boxer engine making it's dinky little pop noise.
Problem is, you can't just install the motor. You need a better transmission, better axles, stronger cv joints etc, which may mean stronger mounting points and frame reinforcements... and pretty soon you have yourself a crosstrek that is the same weight and power as one of the larger models they already sell. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
I wish that the Duster was available in the US (along with such vehicles as the Lada Niva, yeah I'm weird). Those likely succeed in the EU market due to taxes and production/shipping costs to get it to those shores. Subaru, being a small company, probably cannot afford to build new facilities or shipping routes to get those cars their cost effectively.
I’m picking up a used 2018 limited with 21k for my 50 mile back road and little highway commute into work. My 2015 Elantra GT makes 20 more HP and still has a 6 speed real automatic and not a DCT or CVT. It’s actually fun to drive and gets over 30 mpg. No issues with 150k. I just wanted some more creature comforts and the AWD. Hope the XT doesn’t disappoint. I don’t think it will though 👍. Thanks for the review of changes between model years as I was also looking at a 17 model
No trolling here. I have owned my new 2018 Crosstrek for a week now and absolutely glad I traded the Rav4 for the Subaru. The Crosstrek's safety features is way ahead of Toyota Rav4, gas mileage and travel range is far greater, the AWD system is superior, the handling/cornering is far better. Try a Crosstrek before you buy a Rav4. Sorry Toyota fans, like I said in a post earlier I have and owned Toyota's for over 35 years and will sing their praises but the Rav4 AWD system sucks! Toyota needs to step up how their AWD system works in my professional opinion.
I now have just under 2,800 miles on my Crosstrek and really like this car. The fuel mileage is great, safety features are awesome, and does way better than the Rav4 in the snow and ice. So if Subaru's have Toyota guts, so be it. Lol
Hey Triple6dynomax, I now have just over 3,000 miles and going to Subaru for it's first oil change tomorrow. Once again my Wife and I really enjoy our new Crosstrek. This car performs extremely well in adverse weather conditions. I put BF Goodrich Ko2's on the vehicle and the tires are quiet and smooth, they perform extremely well in the snow and ice.
Robert my Subaru is the best new car I have ever bought. The AWD system is proven far superior to Toyota, this boxer 4 cylinder is awesome. The CVT is chain driven rather than belt driven like Toyota. So yes I agree with you the Subaru is radically different. I have been able to modify many things on this vehicle and like it so much. I was being nice to the other guys comment having Toyota guts.
I've not driven the Crosstek, but the overall characterization of the vehicle is similar to other current Subaru models: Safe, generally dependable, comfortable, roomy, long cruising range, predictable handling, AWD, reduced cabin noise, decent interiors, enough power, etc. Basically a straightforward car that does everything well at a reasonable cost.
ncplantdoctor maybe so, but for me that would mean I would only have to fill up once a week instead of twice for commuting. It's one of the things I miss most about my old Golf TDI. I have a Honda Fit now which gets great MPG but has a tiny gas tank. I have to fill every 3 days or so.
I recently changed my 2016 crosstrek for a 2018 one ! Basicly for the fuel Economy, because of the 6th gear. On highway, I've calculate 7,2L/100km (33mpg) and I do around 800km with a tank ! But it seems that the manual transmission is more equipped in Canada than in the US. Mine has the LED steering responsive headlight, with the 8.0 inches radio, and also have the same cluster as the limited editions. Overall, I really live the improvement that Subaru did between both generations !
It's not boring if you put Method 502s and BFGoodrich KO2s on it! At least that's what I'm trying to tell myself. I really just bought mine because the EyeSight adaptive cruise is pretty great on the highway, and certainly a standout feature for the price range.
The radio in our 2018 premium Crosstrek is awesome, beats the stereo in our legacy 2017... our neighbor bought a 2018 limited after checking ours out the led headlights that turn are awesome!
I work for Subaru and as soon as the 2018's landed i went and drove it.... my girlfriend traded in her 2015 for the 2018 2 days later.... it is a night and day improvement from her 2015...
Sadly the XT has gone of the way of the dinosaur for the 2019 model year, so if u want a XT snatch the 2018 before they sell out but can u imagine the crosstrek with that engine set up it would sell like hot cake
I bought a 2018 6 speed forester. It only weighs about 250 lbs more, but has 18 more hp and approx 28 lbs more torque IIRC . Best part, no one wants a 6 speed Forester, so they are( were) cheap. So for the same price as a 2018 6 speed Crosstrek, I got a larger, slightly faster( still slow) SUV. Down side is it does not look as good and it gets 1 or 2 less MPG. Anyone who has a 6 speed forester need to get the Perrin shifter stop. well worth the money, 15 minute install.
Agreed, for a daily driver car I always choose a practical, efficient car. There's no need to waste extra money including gas on something you'll only need here and there like a thrill or tow.
I've had my 2018 for 3 weeks now, and I love it. I test drove the 2016 and liked it. I held off until they made the changes or I found something better. It was definitely worth the wait. Fuel economy is slightly better than EPA ratings. There's very few things about the Crosstrek that feel anything less than solid.
I have the same 2016 Crosstrek as EE but with a CVT. I enjoy the car for what it is, a great daily driver that can handle beach sand/snow without a problem. It'll never win a drag race but does just fine on the interstate. No Apple CarPlay and the option for a better stereo are the only two issues I have with mine. Great car. Reminds me of my Toyota Tacoma in value.
bmwmsport11 I absolutely agree. Even the wheels are meh. Can't deny the 10 reasons but it seems like they toned the looks down and made it more refined looking. And why do they have to make it wider! It was never supposed to be a bigger vehicle anyway. Seems to be the trend with newer vehicles look at the difference between the new gen Wrangler for example compared to previous 06 and back generations. The JKs dwarf the previous years.
Well at least the crosstrek is not boring, it’s because it’s a manual and it will be even more thrilling if you make it an off roader with off road tires and go off roading and camping
I've always wanted a Crosstrek for reasons I really can't explain. They just looked cool to me and seemed to be the perfect daily utility vehicle. What I didn't know, until now, is how affordable they are! Must. Resist. The. Urge...
I recently bought a 2018 Crosstrek and I like it. It serves it's purpose. I wanted a vehicle that is AWD and will get about 30 mpg. I knew I wasn't going to break any records for speed and that's fine. That's what my RAM 1500 with the HEMI is for. The one thing I am not happy with is the Starlink entertainment system. I know it got an upgrade for 2018 but it's still slow and glichy. The U Connect works way better. Subaru has to do a better job with voice recognition, bluetooth connection, and the way it indexes mp3. An example is if you wanted to play a full album from a thumbdrive and commanded the Starlink system to play it, Starlink will not play the album in track order like it should, but will play the songs in alphabetical order. Since Subaru Technical Support was no help at all, I found a solution on the web and that was to create playlists for the albums using Microsoft Media Player. Starlink didn't recognize playlists from I-Tunes. That's not good when you got over 800 albums! And as I said before, the voice recognition although alright, could be a little better. Final complaint is just recently the Starlink system did not recognize the command to make a cellphone call. The system kept asking me "what type of music I wanted it to play", are you kidding me? It took a complete shutdown of my car for 5 minutes to solve the issue. Some might say that you should not expect everything out of a $30000 vehicle, but there are other manufacturers that are doing a better job in the entertainment field. Subaru markets it's product to a young tech savvy crowd and with that, they should cross there "t's" and dot their "i's" on everything
Even as an owner of a Crosstrek, I still don't really get why it is so dang popular. It sucks at many things. Namely power and towing. I turn on the AC and feel my car drop HP like it's a disease.
+99codemister many things? You named the one thing it sucks at (acceleration). For it's class, it has a solid tow rating. The majority of crossovers are not even rated to tow.
Engineering Explained So, research you say shows more power will not result in more sales? I say the research is flawed. Most best selling models of most brands have adequate power. Boringly slow cars make me want to swear at the manufacturer.
+Engineering Explained I named one thing because you mentioned my other major gripes in the video. Some of the stuff was addressed, as you pointed out, but I was referring only to the current generation. The current generation is selling insanely fast at my local dealership. When I bought mine they actually brought in three trailers full of only the Crosstrek. They sold out of them just 2.5 weeks later. If you like, I will repeat everything you said in the video.
I own a '13 XV with a manual (bought it new). It's noisy (in a bad way), has rattles, the seats are uncomfortable, the highway stability is marginal, it has a transmission from the 80s in it, the bluetooth mic makes handsfree use at surface street speeds impossible, the steering is beyond numb, the throttle lags in both directions ..., but it looks like a Tonka toy so everyone thinks it's a great car. It's my 7th Subaru (6th with a manual) and it will be my last.
Oh, by the way, being able to tow 2,000 lbs is nothing to be proud of. Look at the weight of any purpose trailer (like a very small popup camper). That is seriously only enough to tow around a (very small) flatbed with some garbage on it. My previous car could do the same with 1,000 lbs towing capacity, the Hyundai Veloster.
We carefully researched and test-drove the previous Crosstrek and new Impreza in anticipation of buying the new Crosstrek. The new platform/drivetrain is a massive improvement, yet it's still underpowered and not terribly fuel efficient. Ultimately we went with the new turbo AWD CR-V, which was far roomier, way more powerful, just as fuel efficient, and cost about the same when priced with active safety gear. Yes, the Honda isn't full-time AWD, but that's not a major consideration for my environment.
EE uploading videos or "How americans are discovering the beauty of driving with a stick"...Funny that in other countries we've been driving with manual gearbox since you learn how to drive. Congrats Jason.
Leo Coscarella , I'm 18 in America and I've owned a manual for 2 years and driven them for 3. It's not that Americans don't drive manuals; the general public just sees them as an unnecessary inconvenience that is reserved for enthusiasts.
Please don't get me wrong, I know there's a public for manuals...I actually celebrate that people like Jason does a good job showing non-enthusiasts the nice things about manual transmission cars.
What are the nice things about manual cars? I see no joy in them and never enjoy the times i drive one. It's just an extra thing to do while driving and I really don't need what small increases in performance they allow for me.
Because it's an extra thing to do and manage, which I think is fun. If I had to go at the slow highway speeds in the US and couldn't even shift before/after, I'd just fall asleep at the wheel.
Recently Subaru was mentioned by IIHS for not being as strong on the passenger side as the driver side for the small offset crash test of the Forester. The RAV 4 was very bad for this so before anyone buys the Crosstrek check the next IIHS test.
I'm 6'4'' and i drive a gas model Chevy Spark. very boring but i've put over 40,000 miles on it in 2 years and average about 37 mpg (not just highway, that's including my city driving). Boring is affordable and so far for me, reliable.
I beg to differ about not having fun in it with only 152hp (113kw). I have a 2005 Liberty (Legacy), it has around 100kw, and I have great fun racing around in it, 5 speed manual. I guess I'm not used to driving more exotic cars, or even a Honda S2000.
It's not boring at all! My other current cars being MkIII TT & 718, had the new XV for a week now done 600Km, enjoyed every moment of it. Its other strengths are so amazing it's lack of power is irrelevant! Looks gorgeous, interior definitely does not look cheap compared with my other 2 cars, handling has more feedback then my TT, minimal road noise with very good audio, the CVT is surprising nice, & you know what, I think it's more engaging than the DSG. The best thing, there was a flood on its 1st day of taking me to work, drove straight pass it & all the other cars (incl fake SUVs) no problem. Would have turned my 718 around, & probably tried the TT, risking wetting my pants.
this is the first time i've ever heard "droped the manual in europe and kept it in the US" lol
pxK BMW M5, from E60 onwards there's been a manual option in USA but not in Europe...
It's really strange, but for me in Switzerland arrive with manual gearbox...I hope !
Subaru's in general aren't that hot in Europe because their diesel engines are pretty bad.
I was shocked! But happy they kept it.
More over, WRX is not available with a manual in certain european countries if not across the whole Europe.
I just acquired a 2018 Crosstrek after trading in my 2015 Crosstrek for it, and there's only one point in this video I would disagree with. That point is that I absolutely find thrills in driving my new car. However, they are different thrills from the ones I used to find when I had a Mustang GT or my Mazda Miata. What I find thrilling in the Crosstrek is seeing a dirt road and being able to say, "Hey, let's see what's down that way!" instead of just glancing wistfully as I drive by. I was quite thrilled to be able to drive my 2015 right out onto the beach at the cape on Hatteras Island instead of having to park on the pavement and trudge through the hot sand. I'm also very thrilled every time I can look back on a fun day of driving through the country roads (paved and dirt) of West Virginia and then realize I still have gas left in the tank :D Great video summary of the Crosstrek, thanks for sharing it :)
christopher sigmund Hey, I wanted to buy a Crosstrek at the beginning of the 2019. So how do you feel about driving the Crosstrek on an incline road ? I mean when you drive the car to climb on a montain, do you feel the engine shivering ? Because I really enjoy going roadtrip in the U.S, so I really care about the performance of the engine when it climbs on a high mountain. I’m driving a 2014 Honda Civic, and whenever I drive the car on a high mountain, I cannot reach 60 mph because the engine is weak and I have the feeling if I push the pedal to 60 mph or over, the engine would explode because of the loud noise from the hood. So could you give me some reviews about the 2018 Crosstrek on that criteria ? Thank you
And then realizing 15 mins later that there's nothing down that dirt road, which is why the government hasn't invested in paving it.
@@zacharyreynolds4303 Yeah, fast or quick are relative. A RAV4Prime is about as quick 0-60MPH as a GTO Judge or a Testarossa. It's not even considered "quick" these days.
A new Camry can outcorner or outbrake many performance cars from the 90s, yet it's considered "bland" these days.
I already liked the Crosstrek. The 2018 just seems like an amazing package. If I was buying a new practical car in the next year, this would be it. Bravo Subaru.
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@@jimmyvann6914 hae
The eternal dilemma of car buying - wait for the unproven, next year generation with better tech; or buy the previous generation with proven components.
Cameron Sours tbh that's really with anything
While I agree with the sentiment, remember that the Crosstrek is based on the Impreza which has been out for nearly a year now. Given that the chassis and technology have had that time to work out any issues, I'd have no problem getting one of the first Crosstreks to hit dealer floors.
+Flame Beats I had one of the very first Xbox 360's (it was from the second wave released to stores) and somehow it still works just fine today! My original Xbox died in a lightning storm though. :(
Flame Beats I did that with my mountain bike. It turns out that the frames snaps and there was no warranty. So it helps waiting a year or two after a major redesign.
No such car buying dilemma exist if you are able to learn how to fix what you break. You just buy a car that doesn't need a certified tech with a supercomputer for diagnosis and then you don't buy another car for 40 years.
Thanks for the review. I just bought a 2020 6sp MT Premium Crosstrek and I couldn't have said it better. This is a great daily driver, having the manual was a highlight for me, it gives you that much more connection to the driving experience and with the 4 wheel drive, cargo capacity, 27-30 MPG and 5 star safety rating for under $27,000 all in...it's easily one of the best values anywhere.
What's the 2020 have over the 2018 model?
I just purchased my 2018 Crosstrek with 53k miles on it, felt like a brand new vehicle. Started to adjust to my driving habits and now fits me like a glove. The acceleration is decent and good enough for me to safely pass anyone on the highway or merge onto a fast paced highway easily. It’s comfortable and quiet. I am not sure what you mean by there’s no excitement with the way it drives, it drives just fine. We are not at Le Mans 😑🤣
The new infotainment system is why I went with the new Impreza. It's worlds beyond the old systems Subaru's used in the past.
+ron s agreed! It's a massive improvement. The only sound system (and now the Crosstrek) I've listened to in a Subaru and been impressed. Glad they addressed that area!
I miss the old Subaru where they'd throw the Wrx motor in everything (Legacy, Forester, ect.) this car deperately needs more power.
CrialCrial I don't think their core audience would notice. Enthusiasts are better off shopping elsewhere.
this is why i have the fxt
Ian Irizarry the FXT is ideal, but no manual 😕
AVO makes a kick butt kits for the boxer 4 engine. I have the AVO stage two kit on my Scion FRS and more then doubled my horse power.
Here is a link for information: www.avoturbo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=257:subaru-crosstrek-xv-turbocharger-kit&catid=3:general-news
Yeah, back in the mid 2000's in the USA, EVERY Subaru model could be had with a turbocharged boxer engine AND manual transmission. I believe 2005 was the last model year for that. Models include the Outback 2.5XT, Forester 2.5XT, Baja Turbo, Legacy 2.5GT, and of course, the Impreza WRX. The biggest difference was, every turbo engine was the EJ255 except for the WRX which had the EJ205.
So
Better trans
Better engine
Better chassis
Better suspension
Better tech
Sounds like you should trade up
Lel for not being a sports car you seemed to enjoy this one alot
yes but does that incremental increase wich is inavoidable worth it? i think not.
wat
+The Vibe He would get another 2 years of manufacture warranty
With the amount of views he gets, he can easily get the 2018.
The Vibe it is definitely worth it. I've driven the 2017 and 2018 back to back and the difference is night and day.
I just purchased a 2023 Crosstrek Limited, which is the final year that the 2nd gen Crosstrek will be built. The larger 2.5L engine with 30 additional horsepower and torque which became available on the Sport and Limited trims starting in 2021 really helped the Crosstrek. Great cars.
Manual in the US, automatic in Europe? Are they mad?
EinChris75 at least the Americans are happy, 2018 model seems somewhat tempting over getting a second STI.
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
crosstrek isn't that popular in europe I think, only ever hear about it from american youtube channels
EinChris75 it's a conspiracy, theres a plan to make everyone in the world drive automatics before pushing the autonomous cars...sleep with your eyes open and also keep your blinds opened 🙃🙃😵😵😵
They don't sell 2018 Crosstrek (or Impreza) in Europe at all, I don't know they he got that information.
I picked up a Sunshine orange '18 about 3 weeks ago. I'm 6'7" and absolutely amazed at how I fit in the front seat. My last ride was a 4 cyl automatic (had to be auto or I grinded my shins into the firewall!) '97 Wrangler, so this Crosstrek is a roomy speed demon compared to my Jeep! Have to say I love your videos. Keep it up man! Thanks.
They need to bring back the WRX hatch. The used prices on those show there is pent up demand for a new one.
I have the Premium trim 2018 Crosstrek. Always really wanted one, test drove one in early 2016 and it didn't end up working out. Bought my 2018, then, last August after my mom totaled her Forester and was amazingly protected from any major injury. I have about 6500 miles on it now and I am loving it. Great handling, fuel economy and infotainment, just an all around fantastic car. Hoping I can keep it (problem free) for years to come.
Awesome, I love the ‘18, and love my ‘16!
Was testing cars yesterday and actually bought the 2018 model. I was thoroughly impressed with this Crosstrek
+Mike Calderon nice, congrats on your new ride!
Engineering Explained thank you. It's your videos that help make informed decisions and understand what's out there. Keep up the good work!
Mike Calderon
I did the same thing. I absolutely love my 2018 Crosstrek w/6-speed manual. Thanks EE for the great review, this is going to help me explain exactly why I opted for it.
How does your shifter feel? My 2017 Crosstrek had a great feeling 5-spd.
Tucsonan Dude shifter feels solid. Occasionally getting into reverse is just a bit stiff, but that's too be expected. Transitions during acceleration are as smooth as can be
Coming up next. Engineering Explained adds turbo charger and upgrades suspension components of his 2016 Crosstrek to make it better than the 2018 model.
I dont understand why they dont offer the Crosstrak as a manual in Europe.. People here dont like automatics, yet they refuse to give us this existing transmission.
Maybe it's a regulation thing that has to do with fuel economy. I'm sure there is a reason.
Yeah, you can probably blame the EU. Weep at your masters control of your life.
I doubt a company as Subaru cant deal with emissions, considering their other SUVs are purchasable here, all with manual transmissions.
I gueass its more because subaru isnt relly popular here. to ship manuals also would be too expensive
Xzstnce EU emissions standards are so strict it's bordering on a joke. See things like Diesel Gate. So many models are moving to CVTs and Start/Stop systems to improve emissions for congestion charges and fleet fuel economy statistics. If it wasn't for the Prius, Toyota would be screwed, as they are the last of the big automakers to adopt wide spread direct injection. So almost all of their standard models are CVT with Start/Stop. It's just the sign of the times thanks to obnoxious environmental regulations.
Subaru really made huge improvements throughout with the 2018 Crosstrek! I would normally choose the manual and usually wouldn't even think about the CVT when a manual is offered. However, I would choose the CVT in this for no other reason than to get X-Mode, which provides Hill Decent Control and what is essentially low-range for off-roading, going up steep inclines with loose terrain and ice surfaces, getting through really deep snow, etc..
All the reasons mentioned are why I’m happy with my 2019 base manual...but 30 more hp would be perfect!
Thanks for the informative and objective review. We bought a 2016 Crosstrek on an impulse buy, and ended up LOVING it!
Like it so much, even though the 2018 is improved in many ways, no way we could trade it in on a new one.
Just sell your old crosstrek and go for the new one with i-sight. Worth it
My friend did the same and he can tell there is at least 40% difference
+Attila theHun I don't think the claim is literally exactly 40%.
the eyesight package is worth every penny.
Maria Smith - unless you want to shift gears yourself with a proper 3-pedal manual transmission. Don't get me wrong, I've lived with a Subaru that was equipped with Eyesight for a month. Did I love it? Absolutely. Would I want to daily drive it? Hell no. I'd reserve such a feature for a road trip vehicle, not my daily driven vehicle, where it has the potential to diminish my driving skills.
I just bought a 2018 and the i-sight is awesome!
His penis grew 40% more because of the erection he had from buying the newer model.
The 2nd gen fits bigger tires. It's available with a 2.5L now. It has a temp gauge now. It lost the rear bumper cutout for a foglight or hitch. It still doesn't offer the manny-tranny with a sunroof...or the powerful motor. It still can't "lock" the center diff.
Until I can get an affordable replacement at any autoparts store, I don't want factory LED lights.
Wait. Removed manual from Europe but it's still available in America, which is notorious for their "lack of" manual driving skills? - I don't understand, Subaru...
Edit: I have to edit this. In Switzerland you can get the 6 gear manual transmission if you get the 2.0i or 2.0d engine. Probably because Subaru is quite successfully selling their cars there? Well I know that Subarus are popular there for sure.
So my guess is it's only for selected countries?
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
Mike Roth it's for those who want a wrx wagon. haha
Soccer moms need to learn shitck
Nope, I was wrong: was looking at the 2017 model, not the 2018
//I'm not sure, but I think here in Italy you can get this model with the 2 liters engine, 6 gears manual transmission. It's the diesel version though.
Or at least this is how it's advertised.
Don't think about it too hard. Subaru seems to be off their rocker these days.
I traded up from a Kia Forte and have absolutely zero regrets. I was getting 38 mpg in the forte and I get 34 in my crosstrek. I love the storage capacity and safety and the way it drives.
Thank you Subaru for keeping the manual transmissions!
at least in the US lol
We bought the 2018 Crosstrek in the cool grey khaki for my wife back in the summer of 2018 with the mid tier upgrade package. No complaints so far my wife loves the car.
+Engineering Explained - I would like to see a comparison to the VW Golf Alltrack. It has a much more peppy engine that is hard to not like. The Subaru 2.0 N/A is so underwhelming to the point of poking my eyes out. I drove it for 5 minutes and returned it to the dealer and was like not a chance in the world you could sell that to me.
Subaru: 152 hp, 145 lb tq
- 33 mpg highway
VW Golf Alltrack: 170 hp, 199 lb tq
- 32 mpg highway
Both AWD, both have raised suspensions over their sibling variants.
Both have automatics and manual transmission options.
For me personally, the new Gen 3 1.8 TSI engine found in the VW is far superior to the new 2.0 N/A engine in the Subaru line-up. And both use their company's new global chassis.
Please do a comparison video!
Uberragen21 you are so right. Drove both on a test drive. Hated the sub bought vw alltrack for less. Couldnt be happier.
Thats not true.
In my neck of the woods there are still a few Alltracks on dealership lots!
After owning a 2.5L outback for a month, I switched to a 2.0L crosstrek and this thing is so much faster and more nimble
Makes sense. Even though the Outback has the slightly more powerful engine, the Crosstrek is 400-500 LBS lighter.. that much weight definitely makes a difference..
The only reason I've not upgraded my 2011 Legacy is Subaru stopped offering higher trim packages with the manual transmission. I really don't understand why they do that...
Market analysis.
So, basically, people that buy manuals need to stop being cheapskates? :D
I guess there is not enough demand for a fully loaded car with a manual trannie...but just enough to keep the option available, but to minimize risk...keep them with basic packages.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. They make people choose between nice upgrades or a manual making the small percent that like manuals pick the upgrades instead. Which further brings down the sales.
But the newer lower trims have better tech then the older ones?..I.e 2011..
I love the way you approached this review. Most reviews of this type car I see are done by people (including you) that drive sports cars or cars verging on super cars etc. Then they expect every car/crossover/suv to have the most sporty transmission, tightest stearing, and able to throw the back of the car out through every corner... You approach this as the car it is, "it can get up to speed easily to get on the highway and overtake, but it's not an exciting drive". And I appreciated how you almost mocked it at the end. No one buys a crosstrek to drag race their friends haha
Number 9 is not labeled right I think.
Ha, nope. Should read "Efficiency & Range"
Ha! For a half second, I thought "Wow, the infotainment must be GREAT to be covered twice!" :)
Engineering Explained I am happy Subaru has included a larger gas tank. I feel like too many auto makers have shrunk gas tanks as efficiency has improved, especially in smaller cars. There is something to be said about being able to fill up less when on long road trips.
Engineering Explained damn it Jason!! Now you have to do the whole video again.
As someone with a 2016 Impreza, I was especially interested in hearing _your_ opinion about this car, because most reviewers just focus on how nice everything looks, the better sound system, and how its all based on the new global platform. They don't say anything else that's really useful when compared to previous years, especially regarding the manual.
I feel a little bit resentful that I don't have the 2017 model.
I have a 17 Impreza sport and it's on the same platform. I love it. Very slow in a straight line but handles amazing. And it's my first car.
Same, it doesnt have much low end torque but it handles really nicely on mountain roads, especially fun on downhill slopes
I'm going to college where it snows soon, have you driven it through snow? Does the lower height than the cross trek cause issues?
mericle123 I have not driven through snow yet. But from what I’ve seen on CZcams is that it can do extremely well and I think Impreza is better looking for the 2017 year instead of the new cross trek
I have the 2018 and the best way I can describe it is that it is a very good car and does everything fantastically. Nothing more. It's the perfect size, height, usability, mpg (roughly 26 average). I love it, I don't plan on trading it for anything in a while unless something changes drastically like a turbo model or a 2.5 sport engine.
"If the sides were wider, it'd be easier to slide it in" ;)
Andrew Murphy giddy
That’s what she said!
Firstly, how can anyone listen to this guys high pitched voice, it grates on my ears ! Secondly, at the end of the day, this new XV (as we call it in the UK) is a newer design and costs a lot more, but doesnt mean to say the old model is suddenly rubbish. Just watched a POV clip of a 2012 XV 2.0i CVT and it sounded great. Id rather buy that and save my money.
Well, I suspect that Subaru sales will continue to rise steadily for the foreseeable future.
I had a 2013 Crosstrek. I loved the ground clearance, AWD system, and versatility. However, it was the SLOWEST vehicle I have ever driven and my first car was a 1991 Mustang LX with the punitive 2.3L engine which didn't set the bar high. I had the replace the driver side axle at 69K miles and the passenger at 73K. It burned a quart and a half of oil every 5000 miles. The bluetooth phone connection was AWEFUL and no one could hear me over the background noise when I attempted to us it. The MPG was amazing for an AWD car, my highest average was 36mpg with the average hovering in the 32mpg range. The rear had started to get round right before I traded it at 122K miles. I don't know what the problem was as I wanted rid of it before I had to address it. I think it is the ideal daily driver for anyone in a snowy state, I just wish it had more power and I hope Subaru has fixed the issues I experienced with mine.
"The rear had started to get round"
Could you please explain this to me. What does this mean?
Had anyone noticed that the text that appears on the video (top left) for each improvement indicates 6. infotainment/audio 4:48 and also 9. infotainment/audio 6:46.
I've had my '18 for a month. Given that I wanted a manual, I went with the premium, and therefore couldn't get the HK audio. I did get the Rockford Fosgate upgrade, and it does sound very good.
Here's my "beef" with Subaru; I love them.. Love my forester 6m (2015). However; Subaru falls "flat" with their engines (pun intended). Good engines; decent power. However; if Subaru can offer a 2.0 non turbo in the cross trek, why not offer a "performance" version with the WRX 2.0 turbo?
As well, why offer a 2.5 170 hp in the Forester and then offer the 2.0 as the only engine options? Subaru needs a "midrange" flat 4 that is normally aspirated (for fuel mileage) yet puts out around 200 hp.
They need to learn from Ford. The new 2020 Ford Escape with 250hp/275ftlbs, AWD, a factory tow package w/ 3.Klbs tow rating, LED lighting, 200lbs lighter and more aerdynamic, HUD and full LCD instrument cluster, and even the rear seats recline.
They don't have the demand for it as what they have is wildly popular. Subaru North America said they'd consider it if they ever needed to do it to bolster sales, not before.
@@af4237 Its a huge mistake, as image matters. The image of the Mustang for example is massively boosted by the availability of the Mustang GT, Bullitt, and GT500, even if the majority of sales are the ecoboost. It simply gives the body street cred.
Subarus are earning a reputation for being glacial appliances devoid of fun-factor, and that's not a good thing. So even if its a loss leader, offer the XT trim even if it only makes 5% of sales. It will also get reviewers like Car and Driver and others to give it rave reviews and drool all over it, which will get people interested in the chassis that may settle for the low power engine.
The brz/Toyota 86 has an na 200 hp 2.0 Liter. They could put that in the trek, but the fuel milage would drop.
Bought my "18 XV (= Crosstrek) a couple of months ago. I absolutely love it! Awesome vehicle. Not super powerful but it's got all you need, especially if you want to avoid speeding fines. It handles better on 225/65/18 tyres than my previous 2006 Liberty (= Legacy) 3.0R on 215/45/17s, and despite a lot less power, is more fun to drive around town.
This would appeal to a lot more people if they would just put a detuned version of the fa20dit in there, and call it the crosstrek xt!!!
woohunter1 it's been done before, some lad made one into a WRX!
dp.subaru.com/dp13-1-mods-wrx-crosstrek
It's a good option if you have the finances to throw at it. If enough people ask we may get a WRX or STi factory run on them.
Just for fun good read, interesting, sure was a lot of work
This is the review I have been looking for! My new commute will be roughly 130 miles round trip so I have been heavily researching the subaru lineup and have been debating between the Legacy and Crosstrek. This video may have made my decision for me.
Am i living in a dystopian future where i have to live in fear of the extinction of manuals and v8s?
plasma246 yes
Yes. And you also have to fear rev-hang in the few manuals remaining.
plasma246 unfortunately, yes, as well as the demise of large naturally aspirated engines and weird-but-cool stuff like windy windows and 5-cylinder engines, not to mention that everything is so heavy nowadays.
With V6 engines' ability to output the same or more horse power than V8 rivals, why is that an issue? When my 2.0T can outperform a V8 from decades ago, is there really a reason for V8s on everyday cars?
Why get a gas guzzling V8 when a modern V6 or hybrid could perform at or similar specs?
I bought a new 2018 Subaru XV (Crosstrek) a month ago after much review watching/reading and test drives and I'm very happy I did. The interior is spacious and comfortable. Living here in Sydney, Australia our roads are very average so the ride in the Subaru is comfortable. Acceleration is more than adequate in city/suburban settings and the steering is light, responsive and confident. The CV transmission (we don't have the manual option but there are paddles if you're into that) is solid though tends to need high revs for a change in the upper gears.
I've recently taken it out onto motorways and highways that included significantly steep inclined mountain climbs and, even though it had to work at it, the Subaru did keep up with other cars doing 100+ kph but I was conscious of not letting the revs go too high for the first 1,000km of its life. Everything worked well - the sat. nav., the music system, the a/c, lane departure (which can be turned off), voice recognition and brakes. I haven't used the cruise control yet as I'm wanting a change in speeds and revs to help the engine settle in. Another trip outside the city limits also had the same results and the XV (Crosstrek) had a respectable 6L/100km fuel economy.
Igual wander... How come Honda had a 240HP 2.0 i4 in 2000 and 17 years later we are not getting even 100HP per litre?
SalveMonesvol Torque, fuel economy, and emissions. The S2000 has no low end torque for easy maneuvering around traffic, gets horrendous fuel economy given its 2.0L (or 2.2) displacement, and is certainly not designated a PZEV. I should know...I own both. The Subaru may not be powerful but given how efficient it is, it doesn't do bad at all. The S2000 gets away with low torque because who cares if you need to wring it out? That's its purpose.
@@afterburn2600 Thanks for your knowledgeable reply as an S2000 owner. Look at all the thumbs-up for SalveM: The Glory of Ignorance.
Because it only takes about 60hp to race between stop lights and 20hp to cruise the interstate highways, which is what 99% of drivers do. 200hp is fun but if you gotta scream to 6000rpm to get it, you're not really gonna be doing that except maybe on the merging ramps.
In short, everyone overestimates their *need* for horsepower.
I just got a new 2018 pearl white crosstrek premium and I really like the smooth suspension and the stereo system. So far loving the car. Previous car 2007 Mazda CX7 awd.
I want the high end stereo & a manual transmission!!
Just got my 2018 Crosstrek with a 6 speed manual. Much agreed with sir Jason, its a much quieter, more efficient car, and better riding car. It could use a bit more power, but it's really not a deal breaker for me. If anything, its part of the cars charm
Subaru needs to make a Crosstrek XT with the WRX motor. That thing would sell like crazy.
Then it would cost close to the Forester XT which is a bigger and more luxurious ride.
So lux people get the forester and sporty people get the crosstrek. bam!
exo STi crosstrek! Haha
I might make mine into a Crosstrek WRX or STI but I don't know if it'll mess with my Eyesight system. But I'd need mess with the wiring, probably replace the tranny and find a rebuilt WRX or STI motor and a shop that could do it all. Mess with the exhaust, too.
Just want to confuse Mustangs when I blast past with that boxer engine making it's dinky little pop noise.
Problem is, you can't just install the motor. You need a better transmission, better axles, stronger cv joints etc, which may mean stronger mounting points and frame reinforcements... and pretty soon you have yourself a crosstrek that is the same weight and power as one of the larger models they already sell.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
I've had my 2023 Premium six-speed for 2 1/2 months, and aside from tire noise from the G91 Geolandars I really like it.
how did they kept the manual in america and sell automatic only in europe?
Europe probably doesnt buy into the whole AWD as a necessity thing and likely means Subaru's market share is much smaller than in the US. Limiting options and features means they can get a car to market for less to increase profit margins.
Alan Bowers we do buy into the 4x4 nowadays, best selling things on wheels. But also you can buy a dacia duster 4x4 1.5 diesel for about 12 grand new.
I wish that the Duster was available in the US (along with such vehicles as the Lada Niva, yeah I'm weird). Those likely succeed in the EU market due to taxes and production/shipping costs to get it to those shores. Subaru, being a small company, probably cannot afford to build new facilities or shipping routes to get those cars their cost effectively.
I don;t know where he got that info from, Subaru doesn;t sell this gen Crosstrek in Europe at all.
in Russia, too, is sold CVT. And the price is like bmw x1
I was so happy I waited for the 2018. The updated 6 speed, exterior styling, CarPlay, and interior made it so worth it.
You want boring? Drive my 04’ Outback. Looking at Crosstreks, but having no car payments for the last 10 or so years has been nice. Hmmmm
I bought a Crosstrek Limited last year and it has been an absolute dream.
New drinking game: take a shot everytime Jason says "you know"
I’m picking up a used 2018 limited with 21k for my 50 mile back road and little highway commute into work. My 2015 Elantra GT makes 20 more HP and still has a 6 speed real automatic and not a DCT or CVT. It’s actually fun to drive and gets over 30 mpg. No issues with 150k. I just wanted some more creature comforts and the AWD. Hope the XT doesn’t disappoint. I don’t think it will though 👍. Thanks for the review of changes between model years as I was also looking at a 17 model
This Fall, it will be: "10 Reasons I should've waited for the 2019..."
awesome video. I'm also looking at a crosstrek as my next vehicle. the appeal of a manual trans coupled with the AWD system is a HUGE plus for me.
I thought he said the Virginity of this car has been totally RENEWED... 🤣🤣🤣
Picked up a 2018 Crosstrek last week. It has many improvements and a great all around vehicle.
No trolling here. I have owned my new 2018 Crosstrek for a week now and absolutely glad I traded the Rav4 for the Subaru. The Crosstrek's safety features is way ahead of Toyota Rav4, gas mileage and travel range is far greater, the AWD system is superior, the handling/cornering is far better. Try a Crosstrek before you buy a Rav4. Sorry Toyota fans, like I said in a post earlier I have and owned Toyota's for over 35 years and will sing their praises but the Rav4 AWD system sucks! Toyota needs to step up how their AWD system works in my professional opinion.
guess what. Subaru's have Toyota guts.
I now have just under 2,800 miles on my Crosstrek and really like this car. The fuel mileage is great, safety features are awesome, and does way better than the Rav4 in the snow and ice. So if Subaru's have Toyota guts, so be it. Lol
Yep! the rav4 styling also sucks...
Hey Triple6dynomax, I now have just over 3,000 miles and going to Subaru for it's first oil change tomorrow. Once again my Wife and I really enjoy our new Crosstrek. This car performs extremely well in adverse weather conditions. I put BF Goodrich Ko2's on the vehicle and the tires are quiet and smooth, they perform extremely well in the snow and ice.
Robert my Subaru is the best new car I have ever bought. The AWD system is proven far superior to Toyota, this boxer 4 cylinder is awesome. The CVT is chain driven rather than belt driven like Toyota. So yes I agree with you the Subaru is radically different. I have been able to modify many things on this vehicle and like it so much. I was being nice to the other guys comment having Toyota guts.
I've not driven the Crosstek, but the overall characterization of the vehicle is similar to other current Subaru models: Safe, generally dependable, comfortable, roomy, long cruising range, predictable handling, AWD, reduced cabin noise, decent interiors, enough power, etc. Basically a straightforward car that does everything well at a reasonable cost.
The driving range for commuting is fine, but on long drives I drink enough coffee that I cannot go 500+ miles on my tank.
ncplantdoctor maybe so, but for me that would mean I would only have to fill up once a week instead of twice for commuting. It's one of the things I miss most about my old Golf TDI. I have a Honda Fit now which gets great MPG but has a tiny gas tank. I have to fill every 3 days or so.
Gweeper64 yeah I'd be able to go about two weeks instead of 4 to 5 days in my Jeep. Love my Jeep but I may end up in a Subaru at some point.
I recently changed my 2016 crosstrek for a 2018 one ! Basicly for the fuel Economy, because of the 6th gear. On highway, I've calculate 7,2L/100km (33mpg) and I do around 800km with a tank ! But it seems that the manual transmission is more equipped in Canada than in the US. Mine has the LED steering responsive headlight, with the 8.0 inches radio, and also have the same cluster as the limited editions. Overall, I really live the improvement that Subaru did between both generations !
Never buy the first model year of any vehicle. Give them some time to iron out the kinks
True, UNLESS it is a used car and you have done your research.
It's not boring if you put Method 502s and BFGoodrich KO2s on it! At least that's what I'm trying to tell myself. I really just bought mine because the EyeSight adaptive cruise is pretty great on the highway, and certainly a standout feature for the price range.
do a video about runaway diesels
The radio in our 2018 premium Crosstrek is awesome, beats the stereo in our legacy 2017... our neighbor bought a 2018 limited after checking ours out the led headlights that turn are awesome!
The 2016 Crosstrek looks so much better from the outside !
PepperoniPizzaSlice I agree.
I work for Subaru and as soon as the 2018's landed i went and drove it.... my girlfriend traded in her 2015 for the 2018 2 days later.... it is a night and day improvement from her 2015...
152 hp? Still so slow. The forester xt turbo is the only way to go. Yes I know, no manual but 250 hp in the xt wins that argument.
+DMETS519 nonsense! 😬
Sadly the XT has gone of the way of the dinosaur for the 2019 model year, so if u want a XT snatch the 2018 before they sell out but can u imagine the crosstrek with that engine set up it would sell like hot cake
I bought a 2018 6 speed forester. It only weighs about 250 lbs more, but has 18 more hp and approx 28 lbs more torque IIRC . Best part, no one wants a 6 speed Forester, so they are( were) cheap. So for the same price as a 2018 6 speed Crosstrek, I got a larger, slightly faster( still slow) SUV. Down side is it does not look as good and it gets 1 or 2 less MPG. Anyone who has a 6 speed forester need to get the Perrin shifter stop. well worth the money, 15 minute install.
Trade it in :)
Agreed, for a daily driver car I always choose a practical, efficient car. There's no need to waste extra money including gas on something you'll only need here and there like a thrill or tow.
It would be cool to see an STI trim level for the Crosstrek I think.
magnaxilorius yes
...or a Wilderness 2.5T 6spd. The forced induction would be nice for higher altitudes.
I've had my 2018 for 3 weeks now, and I love it. I test drove the 2016 and liked it. I held off until they made the changes or I found something better. It was definitely worth the wait. Fuel economy is slightly better than EPA ratings. There's very few things about the Crosstrek that feel anything less than solid.
Turbo Crosstrek when?
Not needed. Market analysis apparently does not support it's feasibility.
This is one of the videos that i watched before buying my 2018 over the 2017. Thank you.
One reason your outgoing model is better: that hyper blue tho
I have the same 2016 Crosstrek as EE but with a CVT. I enjoy the car for what it is, a great daily driver that can handle beach sand/snow without a problem. It'll never win a drag race but does just fine on the interstate. No Apple CarPlay and the option for a better stereo are the only two issues I have with mine. Great car. Reminds me of my Toyota Tacoma in value.
The styling of this doesn't look as good as the previous Crosstrek. The lines of this doesn't match the lifted rigged look.
bmwmsport11 i agree. The older one looked great
bmwmsport11 I absolutely agree. Even the wheels are meh. Can't deny the 10 reasons but it seems like they toned the looks down and made it more refined looking. And why do they have to make it wider! It was never supposed to be a bigger vehicle anyway. Seems to be the trend with newer vehicles look at the difference between the new gen Wrangler for example compared to previous 06 and back generations. The JKs dwarf the previous years.
I have a 2017 manual and I’m happy with it. I got a good deal so won’t be trading up. The grass is always greener and all that.
just trade yours in...
Well at least the crosstrek is not boring, it’s because it’s a manual and it will be even more thrilling if you make it an off roader with off road tires and go off roading and camping
Wait, what? 5 speed in a 2016 Car?
Okey i get it, thought it had like 200+ horsepower.
all cars should be available manual.... no question. people are lazy in NA, can't even drive properly
I've always wanted a Crosstrek for reasons I really can't explain. They just looked cool to me and seemed to be the perfect daily utility vehicle. What I didn't know, until now, is how affordable they are! Must. Resist. The. Urge...
why would anyone want a 150hp crosstrek?
+M. H. I can think of 10 good reasons. 😎
nobody wants one, they are just a not so bad choice amongst a bunch of bad choices.
150hp is plenty for normal driving.
They are everywhere in southern California, especially the mountains. And Forester, Outback, Ascent...
I recently bought a 2018 Crosstrek and I like it. It serves it's purpose. I wanted a vehicle that is AWD and will get about 30 mpg. I knew I wasn't going to break any records for speed and that's fine. That's what my RAM 1500 with the HEMI is for. The one thing I am not happy with is the Starlink entertainment system. I know it got an upgrade for 2018 but it's still slow and glichy. The U Connect works way better. Subaru has to do a better job with voice recognition, bluetooth connection, and the way it indexes mp3. An example is if you wanted to play a full album from a thumbdrive and commanded the Starlink system to play it, Starlink will not play the album in track order like it should, but will play the songs in alphabetical order. Since Subaru Technical Support was no help at all, I found a solution on the web and that was to create playlists for the albums using Microsoft Media Player. Starlink didn't recognize playlists from I-Tunes. That's not good when you got over 800 albums! And as I said before, the voice recognition although alright, could be a little better. Final complaint is just recently the Starlink system did not recognize the command to make a cellphone call. The system kept asking me "what type of music I wanted it to play", are you kidding me? It took a complete shutdown of my car for 5 minutes to solve the issue. Some might say that you should not expect everything out of a $30000 vehicle, but there are other manufacturers that are doing a better job in the entertainment field. Subaru markets it's product to a young tech savvy crowd and with that, they should cross there "t's" and dot their "i's" on everything
Even as an owner of a Crosstrek, I still don't really get why it is so dang popular. It sucks at many things. Namely power and towing. I turn on the AC and feel my car drop HP like it's a disease.
+99codemister many things? You named the one thing it sucks at (acceleration). For it's class, it has a solid tow rating. The majority of crossovers are not even rated to tow.
Engineering Explained So, research you say shows more power will not result in more sales? I say the research is flawed. Most best selling models of most brands have adequate power. Boringly slow cars make me want to swear at the manufacturer.
+Engineering Explained I named one thing because you mentioned my other major gripes in the video. Some of the stuff was addressed, as you pointed out, but I was referring only to the current generation. The current generation is selling insanely fast at my local dealership. When I bought mine they actually brought in three trailers full of only the Crosstrek. They sold out of them just 2.5 weeks later. If you like, I will repeat everything you said in the video.
I own a '13 XV with a manual (bought it new). It's noisy (in a bad way), has rattles, the seats are uncomfortable, the highway stability is marginal, it has a transmission from the 80s in it, the bluetooth mic makes handsfree use at surface street speeds impossible, the steering is beyond numb, the throttle lags in both directions ..., but it looks like a Tonka toy so everyone thinks it's a great car. It's my 7th Subaru (6th with a manual) and it will be my last.
Oh, by the way, being able to tow 2,000 lbs is nothing to be proud of. Look at the weight of any purpose trailer (like a very small popup camper). That is seriously only enough to tow around a (very small) flatbed with some garbage on it. My previous car could do the same with 1,000 lbs towing capacity, the Hyundai Veloster.
We carefully researched and test-drove the previous Crosstrek and new Impreza in anticipation of buying the new Crosstrek. The new platform/drivetrain is a massive improvement, yet it's still underpowered and not terribly fuel efficient. Ultimately we went with the new turbo AWD CR-V, which was far roomier, way more powerful, just as fuel efficient, and cost about the same when priced with active safety gear. Yes, the Honda isn't full-time AWD, but that's not a major consideration for my environment.
Please review the 2018 Camry 4 cylinder
or have some class and not ty
XLE wold be nice, thaat things is FAST i heard lol
I just purchased a new 2019 Impreza Base 5MT and I love it, the global platform is very good.
EE uploading videos or "How americans are discovering the beauty of driving with a stick"...Funny that in other countries we've been driving with manual gearbox since you learn how to drive. Congrats Jason.
Leo Coscarella , I'm 18 in America and I've owned a manual for 2 years and driven them for 3. It's not that Americans don't drive manuals; the general public just sees them as an unnecessary inconvenience that is reserved for enthusiasts.
Please don't get me wrong, I know there's a public for manuals...I actually celebrate that people like Jason does a good job showing non-enthusiasts the nice things about manual transmission cars.
What are the nice things about manual cars? I see no joy in them and never enjoy the times i drive one. It's just an extra thing to do while driving and I really don't need what small increases in performance they allow for me.
Because it's an extra thing to do and manage, which I think is fun. If I had to go at the slow highway speeds in the US and couldn't even shift before/after, I'd just fall asleep at the wheel.
Because it's fun rowing gears. And manual is more reliable
Recently Subaru was mentioned by IIHS for not being as strong on the passenger side as the driver side for the small offset crash test of the Forester. The RAV 4 was very bad for this so before anyone buys the Crosstrek check the next IIHS test.
that car is so boring :/
I'm 6'4'' and i drive a gas model Chevy Spark. very boring but i've put over 40,000 miles on it in 2 years and average about 37 mpg (not just highway, that's including my city driving). Boring is affordable and so far for me, reliable.
Matthew Szubelak that's why I have a Sonic. Cheap. Reliable, with surprising economy. Also with some decent snow and muds it kicked some ass in snow
i never claimed that its a bad car, just not what i watch youtube videos for..
Benjamin Buljevic - I guess you never watched videos of the Subaru XV Crosstrek driving off-road then...
Maybe...but very pleasant to drive. I have a new Miata, Wrangler and a BMW motorycle...and still like the Crosstreks for daily driving.
I beg to differ about not having fun in it with only 152hp (113kw).
I have a 2005 Liberty (Legacy), it has around 100kw, and I have great fun racing around in it, 5 speed manual.
I guess I'm not used to driving more exotic cars, or even a Honda S2000.
Interior looks much better than the previous generation of Subarus. Much tighter and less shiffordable
It's not boring at all! My other current cars being MkIII TT & 718, had the new XV for a week now done 600Km, enjoyed every moment of it. Its other strengths are so amazing it's lack of power is irrelevant! Looks gorgeous, interior definitely does not look cheap compared with my other 2 cars, handling has more feedback then my TT, minimal road noise with very good audio, the CVT is surprising nice, & you know what, I think it's more engaging than the DSG. The best thing, there was a flood on its 1st day of taking me to work, drove straight pass it & all the other cars (incl fake SUVs) no problem. Would have turned my 718 around, & probably tried the TT, risking wetting my pants.