Slowing down without losing control | DCS AH-64D Apache
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2023
- Probably the number 1 question I get from people on how to fly the Apache. Hope it helps.
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Making it look soooo easy. Only those who have tried can appreciate how smoothly this was done.
“And just bring it to a hover.” “Super easy.”
Believe and achieve
If its so easy why am i still struggling after 30 hours 😅
@@hephaestion12 30 hours in DCS for these modules is nothing. Really takes a long time to fine tune your motor skills.
@@hephaestion12 remember to trim trim trim, otherwise you end up pulling way harder than you need to
I knew the physics on the Ka-50, but died so many times. And the Apache is the one thing that you become one with. It's a pure joy to fly.
You make everything seem utterly effortless. I’m still bad, very bad at this manoeuvre. My company had the pleasure of having two apache gunships provide close air support in Afghanistan, they were pretty much ours to command on almost all our jobs. I never actually appreciated how talented the crews were at the time.
So satisfying to watch! I haven't flown the Apache yet, but whenever I slow down in the Huey or Hind I end up overshooting my mark, bobble around like a drunk trying to settle into the hover, gain/lose way too much altitude... I've got a long way to go, and spending most of my sim time in fixed wing modules isn't exactly helping.
Give yourself more room, start decelerating earlier and most importantly, take your time to do it nice and smooth. It's not a competition to just make it at the latest possible point (well, practicing quick stops wouldn't be wrong either, but in those you don't aim to hover at a specific point).
"nice and gentle - super easy" ... lets see, what happens in my next "training session" this evening... wether I succeed today or not... completely irrelevant. THANK YOU for your videos, @casmoTV . I've already learned so much about the Apache. Please keep it up. You rock! 🤙
Just tell yourself; it’s easy peasy
@@CasmoTV I am doing it - tonight I'll convince myself 🤞😁
told it myself was the first part... concentrating on the FPM the second, essential part. much besster. 3h last night - rly good invest ;-)
Easy peasy cider squeezy!
Just practice it often enough and at some point it will turn into second nature.
Just wanted to say THANK YOU all the men you Stick Jockeys saved when we needed shit smoked you guys SMOKED IT thank you Sir.
Thank you for this video. It's impressive how you managed to slow down without pitching up the helicopter!
"Just bring it to a hover" lol - easy with 1000s of hours practice!! 🤣
Believe and achieve
The best thumbnail ever!
Thanks
Apache be like: /watch?v=8CsriRRVkiw :D
Cheers Casmo, I'm mostly messing around in the Huey, but this is helpful for that too! Wanted to get my skills up a bit before I learn the Apache.
Starting with the Huey is a great way to go!
@@sloppydog4831 I love it!
The huey imo will just cause you pain and suffering. The Apache is a different breed of actual stability, and you can do all sorts of shenanagins. For example, you can reliably (and without crashing 100% of the time) do what he did in a rougher manner in about a quarter or eighth of the time. Once you get the hang of it it's crazy what you can do.
Oh before I forget, I think you may like the project for a real feel collective and cyclic stick by the channel Heli Mech (previously known as 737DIYSIM). They are both DIY but with clear instructions and intend to solve issues like the weird feeling of trimming with a standard off-the-shelf self centering stick.
Almost forgot the link:
www.youtube.com/@helimech8152/videos
Collective specific: czcams.com/video/FVQ8w8BwIzM/video.html
Cyclic specific: czcams.com/video/vC68XzT6nMo/video.html
Thanks Casmo! 👍🏻
Guys, don't jerk on your stick. Just try to do all inputs smoothly and remember: you change one input you gotta adjust the remainig two as well in a helicopter.
I've learned a lot form my model helicopters. especially the ones with low thrust-weight ratio. It helped me quite a lot in combination met technical knowledge of heli's to "just start flying".
Now don't get me wrong. I've got loads to learn but it helped me to get off the ground and move the vehicle where I want from the start without crashing. It didn't take long before I started to take the risk to mess around in the cities. At first high and gradually lower and closer to the street. (making it more difficult to "punch out" of a risky situation)
For all other aspects I learn a lot from your video's so thank you!
Great Apache tutorial 👍
Oh, CASMO. Thank you for dumbing down these already- covered subjects for mindless idiots like myself. Really helps a lot.
It's super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
Every time that guy says it i crack up, its hilarious! :D
I am really liking these short videos you have been putting out. I started last year with you in depth videos and have found these new ones to be great for review or getting a different perspective. Keep up the great work here and on the LLH podcast.
Working in this right now...getting better but still having Trouble in settling power in the right Spot. Lowering too much Push me into IGE and requesting more power...wooble coming in 🥴
Yeee hawwww!!!
That is an awesome thumbnail!
And you perked my curiosity on the hover mode. I'm going to have to research that. I'm still manually controlling my inputs on my hover and I can't keep it below two to three knots.
Yes..., scrolling through your videos trying to find out where that video might be.
make sure to fly with the controls display (right ctrl + enter) open, and give yourself plenty of time when executing the landing to trim a few times thru the process. build an instance in the editor with zero wind so you can get a clean hover then add it in later. Also, altitude hold and attitude hold are you friend. Trim in your hover, hit both of those and you're completely hands free.
Short, clear and well illustrated 👍
been waiting for this one. I need more control when trying to stop at a specific spot.
man ive been practicing that hovering its tricky but having that little ball thing with the horizon line helps. No idea what its called LOL. Thank you this was very helpful
Your Photoshop guy is earning his money.
I’m a one man show.
@@CasmoTV kudos!
Casmo.... would if be possible to do a new video on startup, hover and similar upgraded flight modes based on the updates of the last months??? some videos are not reflecting this.
I guess I would be removed (physically) from flight school for the AH64, cause I still don't get it. I have tried to slow down and land MANY times but I keep crashing. My question is: Are you adjusting the collective ONLY or the RPM as well? What is causing the "rearward" attitude?
Collective only. The RPM is managed by the EDECU. The helicopter is always trying to maintain 101 rotor rpm on the Delta model (100 on an Echo).
When you push the cyclic forward, you are tilting the lift vector which takes the downward airflow and points it to the rear. When you slow down, you’re doing the same thing in opposite. The reason you reduce the collective, is so you don’t climb. If all you did was move the cyclic aft, you’re going to trade airspeed for altitude.
Don't forget about pedals - you should also compensate the collective adjustment with it
Since I got my Brunner CLS-E FBB, I'm able to do a fullstop from max speed by kicking in a lot of pedals at a certain speed and keep full control of the aircraft. Little like a skier brakes. Of course not such a smooth slow down and your nose will point to another direction when you come to a hover, but I wonder if this is a real life procedure? Feels like a handbrake.
Hello Casmo. Always enjoy and appreciate all the info you give about Apache through you videos. I still have a question regarding the cyclic and the trim. How does the cyclic behave in real, does it come back to the center position ? And what is the trim about in real ? Will it leave the stick in the position when you push the trim button ? All questions because I would like to invest in a cyclic that is as close as possible as the real one. Thank you very much !
Force trim Holds the cyclic in place. So if you set it forward and left and set the force trim then it’s stays there forward and left.
how to prevent manual stabilizer engaging below 80knots that throws me off ..
I’m not sure that makes sense. If you don’t engage it then you don’t use it. It goes to auto above 80 is a better way to think about it
Unmap the controls so it stays in auto... XD
@@CasmoTV what I noticed on playing on 4ya server is a hot start and when I approach for a landing I notice on the upfront display, it says manual stab when I go below 80 knots without me pressing any button/control ... I guess it might have been engaged already from the hot start
Does switching the symbology actually change anything? Like does Hover mode actually change anything to help you hover? Rather than just hovering while in Flight mode.
No. It’s informational only
@@CasmoTV That's what I had assumed. Thanks for the help.
There's a hover mode?! 0.0
man i land my apache like i land my hawg, rolling landings. i just started the flying weed whacker (A-10 mafia) this is the first time hear of switching to hover mode. is that something i can map to my hotas? yeah i know dumb question
Symbology select switch
@@CasmoTV thanks
Casmo, can you explore the options for selling your stickers as a velcro patch? Would absolutely pick up a couple!
It’s pretty costly to make them as I’d have to make them in bulk. Then there is mailing them… I did this 2 years ago and it was a lot of work.
@CasmoTV totally understandable! I'll consider supporting another way! Keep up the hard work. You're one of the hidden gems on youtube right now
Whenever I try to do this somewhat quickly, I just vortex stall and die.
Just gotta git gud!
You are probably not managing your torque properly. Try sneaking it in earlier.
@@CasmoTV What happens is I pull up my nose to about 10 to 15 degrees while adjusting torque to maintain altitude, so far so good, I keep adding more torque as I slow down, come almost to a stop/hover, and then the Heli starts vibrating like crazy and I fall like a rock.
Feels like I fail at the precise moment of transitioning between slow forward movement and actually hovering.
I'm mainly flying the Ka-50 if that's relevant, have flown the Huey and Apache a bit too.
The Huey gives me the least trouble but it's also the slowest, while the Apache is even harder to fly for me, let alone hover.
I'm glad to pick up speed in the Apache since that means I can stop wobbling.
@CasmoTV >>> 👍👍
what really gets me is the huge roll I get when I pitch up or down, I'm used to the Huey having absolutely none of that, and the apache since a recent(ish?) update has been really really difficult to fly.
Slim Pickens
Your gamma settings look so dark.
Thank you
@@CasmoTV lmao