Brexit vs Scottish independence - BBC Newsnight

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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2019
  • Harry and Peter are young and Scottish, but their similarities end there.
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    Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said Scotland is being dragged out of the EU against its will and has floated the possibility of a second independence referendum after Brexit.
    But is there any appetite for another referendum on Scottish independence?
    Newsnight brings together two voters from opposite ends of the political spectrum to see if they can can convince each other to see things differently.
    Newsnight is the BBC's flagship news and current affairs TV programme - with analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.
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  • @richardmurphy9006
    @richardmurphy9006 Před 5 lety +96

    I'm working with a Scottish chap here in Ireland that voted remain in the independence vote and out in brexit and complains about immigration you couldn't make this up wtf

    • @petersebok9284
      @petersebok9284 Před 5 lety +4

      He is an expat. Immigrants are those who steal English People's job and at the same time they are on the dole

    • @Daone24
      @Daone24 Před 5 lety +13

      He’s probably not complaining about working migrants, but the load of shite that come to the UK to do absolutely nothing

    • @colmcgillveray1010
      @colmcgillveray1010 Před 5 lety +13

      Rangers fan, perchance?

    • @Diabolo0011
      @Diabolo0011 Před 5 lety +18

      Expats are immigrant. It's just an made up word by the brits.

    • @colmcgillveray1010
      @colmcgillveray1010 Před 5 lety +6

      @@Daone24 What a a load ay shite, lad.

  • @yumyumtunafish
    @yumyumtunafish Před 5 lety +37

    Great interview. The guy on the right hand of the screen kind of made the point of why we should vote yes with out realising tho. He said something along the lines of "we vote as the UK so it doesn't really matter which way we vote in Scotland", which is precisely the problem and the reason why I vote yes.

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety +6

      I also said that the best way for Scotland to gain independence is for us to allow Brexit to tale its toll, and then make up our minds. They didn't include this in the final edit tho.

    • @yumyumtunafish
      @yumyumtunafish Před 5 lety +2

      Peter Campbell ah that’s a shame. I do agree with you on that

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety +4

      Exactly. The hypocrisy is fucking overwhelming from Brexiters. A whole country of 5 million people being told what to do by the larger nation in the south. It's the exact fucking reason I hate this union, our vote doesn't matter.

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety

      @crusher bubber Who will bail England out when the banks fuck everyone again? Dont pretend that it was only Scotland.

    • @alistairmrkerr1336
      @alistairmrkerr1336 Před 4 lety

      we will be fine with our oil ,whiskey and fresh water that we will sell ,and the rent money for the nukes that we keep until engerlland build a place to keep them.

  • @xtraspecialmango
    @xtraspecialmango Před 5 lety +13

    2 no voters 😂👍 Good old BBC impartiality.

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety +6

      Harry is a yes voter, I am a no voter. Harry is a remainer, I am a Brexiteer. For once the BBC actually was impartial.

    • @xtraspecialmango
      @xtraspecialmango Před 5 lety

      @@petercampbell8987 "I don't agree with it in most circumstances."

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety +1

      @@xtraspecialmango "In 2014 I voted to leave the UK"

    • @xtraspecialmango
      @xtraspecialmango Před 5 lety

      @@petercampbell8987 what are most circumstances?

  • @loganullman-campbell5017
    @loganullman-campbell5017 Před 5 lety +9

    No sure what polls you've been looking at, BBC but they certainly ain't the ones the public have been polling on.

  • @coopercooper4211
    @coopercooper4211 Před 4 lety +38

    Support the independence of Scotland, Northern Ireland and don't be slaves of England. Brave heart!!! Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bennys2644
      @bennys2644 Před 4 lety +3

      @@mark39ful on what day is that not infinetly better.

    • @swallowdalert
      @swallowdalert Před 4 lety

      Agreed free England now

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety

      cooper cooper you won’t be free how would you be free if you joined the EU You silly people the EU will own you next

    • @samuelmc0123
      @samuelmc0123 Před 4 lety +2

      And Wales too

    • @rajraj-cs1uq
      @rajraj-cs1uq Před 4 lety

      If want to leave then why joined at first
      Scotland join uk because they run out of cash

  • @AyeAyeKane
    @AyeAyeKane Před 4 lety +8

    2:47
    welcome to the entire point of independence

  • @paolobindini471
    @paolobindini471 Před 5 lety +56

    UK?
    England decide...... Scotland and Ireland suffers :
    A classic example of the relationship between Masters and servants!

    • @coreymesham-pritchard1988
      @coreymesham-pritchard1988 Před 5 lety +15

      How has Scotland suffered under England.

    • @sidneypedroso3415
      @sidneypedroso3415 Před 5 lety +8

      True man, there is no union, just england ruling, Scotland is englnd colony

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety +8

      @@coreymesham-pritchard1988 Go look it up yourself. There is too much to list. The Brexit vote in itself proves how stupid this union is, Scotland voted remain yet we are forced to leave because of English votes?

    • @coreymesham-pritchard1988
      @coreymesham-pritchard1988 Před 4 lety +2

      @@hiddenknowledge2012 Haha, you cant even tell me one.

    • @rentontf2
      @rentontf2 Před 4 lety +4

      ​@@coreymesham-pritchard1988 He did. It's in his comment. Right there. Anyways, here are some reasons why leaving the UK would be beneficial for Scotland, each of these also counts as a way we're currently suffering as we cannot truly prosper. Votes that better reflect the Scottish people. In countless votes such as the 2016 EU referendum Scotland as a nation voted against Brexit yet we were given it anyway. Scotland has the means to become one of the wealthiest countries. Recent statistics show that Scotland has the highest tax contribution in the UK. We also give away most of our oil to England and we spent millions a year on trident, something that has no purpose in this modern day. Control over reserved powers. In 1997 when the referendum for Scottish devolution went through we gained the first amount of control over our country in hundreds of years and even then it isn't full control. Fuck, we've only had our own parliament for 20 years now. We would get control over our own welfare system. This is incredibly important as over a million people in Scotland are living in poverty. That's 1/5 of our entire country. Do you understand how crazy that is? We're wasting money on Englands nuclear toys while Scottish people are starving on the streets. Going back to our North Sea oil, all tax money from our oil is going straight to the UK's pocket. If we're not in the UK then we won't have to follow the US into Iran. Basically, any illegal war that happens such as what happened in Iraq could potentially happen again and with tensions rising with Iran it's becoming a possibility. Control over immigration laws. This one is also quite important, a lot of foreign workers are being denied access to Scotland because of the UK's immigration laws that we have no real say in. It also means we can allow in more Syrian refugees and other refugees who are fleeing from really shitty situations. Bringing in more migrants will balance the workflow with elderly people, different from popular belief, immigration is actually a good thing and will help our nation thrive. Lastly, we would still have good relations with the rest of the UK. They are our nearest neighbors and it would be as it is now but on a more equal basis.

  • @tangyinggu2208
    @tangyinggu2208 Před 5 lety +35

    Totally support scotland do.what is.good.for this land.

    • @willgaff3183
      @willgaff3183 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah hope they go independence, So we Brits, don't have to pay for Scotland to have free school meals, free NHS because of us, They lose our Sterling and switch to Euros like Republic of Ireland, And pay us back every penny we been given them, Scotts won't like that 😂😂

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety +2

      Leaving the UK does not make you independent that’s for sure the EU would command you idiots

    • @dirtyharry6741
      @dirtyharry6741 Před 4 lety

      Peach Heard diversity quota for Scotland would be a catastrophe only4 1/2 million Scott’s we’d be over run with immigrants in 10years

    • @saber7529
      @saber7529 Před 4 lety

      Peach Heard fuck off

    • @willgaff3183
      @willgaff3183 Před 4 lety

      @@Jack-bv2hi Bro you must be deluded and hating the fact, That we tax payers are paying for your children to have free school meals, and Nhs, Scotland will be in big debt if you leave us, I ain't wrong, You think the British prime minister gonna let you leave without paying them back? That everything that you owe?? 😂🤣

  • @SorryIJustAteYourDog
    @SorryIJustAteYourDog Před 5 lety +56

    Polls say no significant shift in opinion? Where can I fill oot one of these polls? Cause I've had a massive change of opinion of the English.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 Před 5 lety +10

      We're great aren't we

    • @SorryIJustAteYourDog
      @SorryIJustAteYourDog Před 5 lety +1

      @@tristman8413 Oh fook aye, Ah loue th' sassenach, cuppa, crumpets, th' queen 'n' th' law that means greg's cannae sell het pies,

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 Před 5 lety +5

      @@SorryIJustAteYourDog I know right!?

    • @prophetsnake
      @prophetsnake Před 5 lety +5

      To be fair, they are the same as they ever were. If nothing else, they're consistent.

    • @mickeypearce244
      @mickeypearce244 Před 5 lety +2

      Freeeeeeddddooooommm!!

  • @imme4810
    @imme4810 Před 5 lety +65

    Ahah New update on yer polls...Theres a 65% to leave the U.K lets go!!!

    • @frolicwitme
      @frolicwitme Před 5 lety +7

      We all wish you would hurry up and leave!!!!!! You lot are the biggest joke

    • @imme4810
      @imme4810 Před 5 lety +15

      @@frolicwitme me too... the english are a joke...I'm from Scotland i voted remain but i know if the u.k leave then scotland will gain independence and northern ireland will unify with the republic so it's all fun and games for me😈

    • @coreymesham-pritchard1988
      @coreymesham-pritchard1988 Před 5 lety +1

      @@imme4810 Scotland wouldn't survive without the UK. You get the NHS, free prescription medications, and free university fees. And, you want to keep the Pound. You wouldn't survive as a nation without England. And, btw, dont blame England, because it was a Scottish king who unified England and Scotland.

    • @imme4810
      @imme4810 Před 5 lety +13

      @@coreymesham-pritchard1988 well you must feel stupid because The tories are planning on getting rid of the NHS...Scotland wants to keep the NHS or even create their own free health care system....funny you English keep telling us that we need you....tf mate it's yous that need us....Resources/economy/Oil....it's you that need us. No wonder ye don't wanna let us go.

    • @coreymesham-pritchard1988
      @coreymesham-pritchard1988 Před 5 lety

      @@imme4810 If we need you more than you need us, why did you vote to remain by a significant proportion?

  • @michaeld3303
    @michaeld3303 Před 5 lety +12

    I am Aussie of Scottish ancestry (1850's), Irish and Northern Irish heritage (1840)'s and Endlands Heritage (1816 - 1830s)...convicts and free settlers.
    The reality is you are a Island nation. England and Scotland will always need a trading relationship with Europe whether it is in the EU or not.
    Scottish Independence is a big hill to climb...being a fully indepent country is possible, but then you need to define your trade relationship with Great Britian (England, Wales and Northern Ireland), who will be outside of the European Union, and currently counts for about 60% of Scotland's trade.
    What are you then going to do with the Scottish/English border...have a hard boarder? Assuming Scottland rejoins the European Union?
    Would an independent Scotland become a Republic with it's own Scottish Head of State? Or remain a Consitutional Monachy as it is now, eith the Scottish and English Crowns merging about 312 years ago.
    Australian still have the Queen as the Queen of Australia...for the time being. We had a failed referend on the matter 20 years ago.
    Indyref2 may happen but do not be too surprised if the endvresuot is the same.
    Finally the UK outside he RlRlEU dogs have some benefitsctothe people of Scottland, particularly farmers and fishermen.

    • @BatTaz19
      @BatTaz19 Před 5 lety +6

      Northern Ireland didn't exist in the 1840's. It was called Ireland.

    • @petersebok9284
      @petersebok9284 Před 5 lety +2

      When white English majority disappears from Australia the newcomer Asian people will think it over again whether they want to feed a white supremacist royal family in England 1000s of kilometers far that have no real connection to the country.

    • @petersebok9284
      @petersebok9284 Před 5 lety

      Baltic states used to be member states of the Soviet Union and somehow they managed their own separation. They all are in the eurozone and thriving economies

    • @prophetsnake
      @prophetsnake Před 5 lety

      I don't see the border as a big problem for Scots. They can always rebuild Hadrians wall to keep the cunts out.

    • @feuderali1234
      @feuderali1234 Před 5 lety

      Somehow every other country in the world manage to do this.

  • @martindornan1667
    @martindornan1667 Před 5 lety +35

    In an independent Scotland the Scottish people would be governed by the government that they vote for and not be governed by the government that another country voted for.

    • @craig581
      @craig581 Před 5 lety +9

      You would have to follow laws, rules and regulations created by Brussels, without any say over your future. You'll also have to pay your own way.

    • @Waterford1992
      @Waterford1992 Před 5 lety +1

      Scotland has its own government that it voted for and 30% of scots voted for the current conservative government

    • @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433
      @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433 Před 5 lety +4

      The half of Scotland voted for Tories and Labour...The SNP lost seats and support....A great majority in Scotland wants to stay in UK yet

    • @alanfairbrother890
      @alanfairbrother890 Před 5 lety +1

      @@craig581 no they'd follow rules and laws negotiated along with other countries in the EU. This is the bit brexiteers miss.

    • @brigold3352
      @brigold3352 Před 5 lety +1

      @@craig581 as an independent nation Scotland would be on the EU table and initiate and shape the laws, same as the UK had been doing in the last 45 years.

  • @Halebopp97
    @Halebopp97 Před 5 lety +6

    I'm wondering when we in England are gonna have a referendum on our independence? Because, ya know, had England voted to leave the UK, then we wouldn't be in the pickle, because England (and Wales) would be out and Scotland would be in their beloved EU. Simples. Time for a referendum on English independence?!

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety +6

      As a scotsman that wants to remain in the UK i don't blame you tbh don't tar us all with the same brush though majority want to remain as 2014 proved 👌🇬🇧

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety +3

      And Scotland and wales will never be in the EU just ask Spain and there veto try telling jimmy kranckie up here that the cow btw i mean sturgeon Google crankie it'll make u laugh anyway much love my English friend 🙂🇬🇧

    • @Halebopp97
      @Halebopp97 Před 5 lety +2

      @@andyf7973 I think we should stay together, i was merely playing with the irony.

    • @Halebopp97
      @Halebopp97 Před 5 lety +3

      @@andyf7973 Well said my friend.

    • @callummcgregorenthusiast5545
      @callummcgregorenthusiast5545 Před 5 lety

      Andy F Spain... Which has repeatedly stated it has no problem with Scotland joining the EU

  • @NuclearHaggis
    @NuclearHaggis Před 5 lety +4

    43% of the Scottish electorate voted to leave the UK.
    The vast majority of us were under the age of 55, and you don't need a weather man to tell you which way that wind is blowing.
    That's a bit of context for the English users in the comment section who might get the impression that Scottish independence is unpopular or unlikely to happen.
    Independence is inevitable whether we model our dealings with the EU on the Norwegian model or the Danish model.
    Scottish independence is inevitable.

    • @NuclearHaggis
      @NuclearHaggis Před 5 lety +2

      @Matt S
      Then forget we even exist, Matthew.
      We're certainly not thinking about right-wing Americans who can't find Denmark on a map.

    • @NuclearHaggis
      @NuclearHaggis Před 5 lety +1

      @Matt S
      Every word in that comment SCREAMS right-wing yank.
      You're arrogantly wrong and it defines your demographic.

    • @darrensmith1522
      @darrensmith1522 Před 5 lety

      Firstly Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 is a country in a political and monarchy union not a state get your facts right. As for the economy and the eu not wanting us is quite frankly laughable.renewable energy for a start is booming we produced 2years supply for every house hold every year and need to sell the excess energy, currently going to England but as I type a new power line is being made to Norway for Europe. Funded my the eu so why would they not want Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety

      Jason Gunn-Davis you will never be independent if you leave the UK the EU will take over How stupid can you get

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      @@andyf7973 love our Scottish neighbours 😘

  • @scotlandstonic8757
    @scotlandstonic8757 Před 4 lety +2

    The fact that the english government is 100% in charge of the main stream media in Scotland speaks volumes. The full might of the establishment was against Scotland in 2014 and to get so close 55-45 was impressive. Had the scottish referendum followed the same rules as the brexit referendum then Scotland would be independent.

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 3 lety +2

    The “once in a generation” remark has no more force than “die in a ditch”. It is not contained in any official document, and appears in neither the Edinburgh Agreement nor the Smith Commission report.

    • @kevinlongman007
      @kevinlongman007 Před 3 lety +1

      But the SNP kept saying it. And now it has backfired on them.

    • @stevenmcalister826
      @stevenmcalister826 Před 3 lety

      @@kevinlongman007 What was that phrase I kept hearing..... oh yeah “the easiest deal ever made”

    • @kevinlongman007
      @kevinlongman007 Před 3 lety

      @@stevenmcalister826 Well i never believed that anymore than i believed the £350 million more each week for the NHS if we left the EU. But the SNP themselves did say that it was a once in a generation vote.

    • @stevenmcalister826
      @stevenmcalister826 Před 3 lety

      @@kevinlongman007 They may have said that, but it’s not written anywhere.

  • @manofthepeople4663
    @manofthepeople4663 Před 4 lety +4

    Peter is a legend

  • @joeldavey36
    @joeldavey36 Před 4 lety +3

    can i just point out, that when Scotland had their referendum, the leave campaign wanted total independence from the UK ... ... except they wanted to keep the pounds, sterling currency and also stay as part of the British Armed Forces!!.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      And they wanted open borders with England and free movement. LOL

    • @joecoe8452
      @joecoe8452 Před 3 lety

      Annnd their whole economy is largely based on oil which will be a thing of the past as it'll be worthless in the future and its running out in Scotland. Plus their NHS without correct funding will collapse due to their ageing population so yikes cmon Scotland we got a good brexit deal and the EU is starting to get jealous as said by a Finnish MEP so let's keep the gang together

    • @stevenmcalister826
      @stevenmcalister826 Před 3 lety

      @@joecoe8452 “We got a good deal” mhm, sure you did. You got us a deal so we can be worse off than we were.
      You also sold NI down the river.

  • @aidenwilson8113
    @aidenwilson8113 Před 4 lety +2

    Am I the only one who finds it hilarious how so many English people tell us to leave but then don’t let us

    • @williamjones1178
      @williamjones1178 Před 3 lety

      If the ENGLISH were given a day you would get you wish,then build Hadrian wall up.carry on and see if you get in the failing eu.no barnet ,no currency

  • @BatTaz19
    @BatTaz19 Před 5 lety +32

    "Sovereignty, Self-determination and Freedom from foreign powers" ~ except for the Irish or Scots?
    The fundamental hypocrisy of the Brexiteers.

    • @kerrell95
      @kerrell95 Před 5 lety +3

      If only there was some vote that took place for the Scots.

    • @bca-biciclindcuaxel7527
      @bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 Před 5 lety +5

      Brexiteers call eveyone ''traitors'' but they don't realize that here in Europe, they are seen as the real traitors that want to destroy our European Unity and lives ! They betrayed their European partners and allies !

    • @alinamanea884
      @alinamanea884 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 We will be better off without the UK in the long run.

    • @alinamanea884
      @alinamanea884 Před 5 lety +1

      @Miguel Melchior Example: Scoland does not want Brexit, but it will get it XD Unless the Scots finally grow some balls and take their country in their own hands. It is a chance to make history here. There used to be wars for independence, and the Scots gave it up with a peaceful referendum answer.

    • @daviddestefanis2989
      @daviddestefanis2989 Před 5 lety +1

      The obvious hypocrisy of the SNP is that they don't want their laws made in Westminster, and as soon as they're independent, they would give that sovereignty away to Brussels. They want their own country to be free, just to join a supranational state that wants an EU army.

  • @oichinese
    @oichinese Před 4 lety +21

    Chinese people support Scottish independence

    • @solinvictus7493
      @solinvictus7493 Před 4 lety +3

      Lmao, free Hong Kong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    • @YosTalk
      @YosTalk Před 4 lety

      hhhhha 你要笑死我了 不过支持

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety +1

      The funny thing is they would never be independent because the EU will take over 😂

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety +1

      @@mark39ful Exactly. Scotland is the EUs Hong Kong.

    • @hectormanuel8360
      @hectormanuel8360 Před 4 lety

      TAIWAN #1

  • @hades9312
    @hades9312 Před 4 lety +3

    1:17 it was said once and never said again. unionists cant keep using this argument

    • @jamesmiller2874
      @jamesmiller2874 Před 3 lety +1

      but they do and they will i mean they still say it today its actually laughable when scotland joined the union which scotland can leave when wants and it will they cant hold us in to this union they have no rights to do that if the scottish people vote the future for scotland its our rightful vote

  • @doug5101
    @doug5101 Před 4 lety +1

    You mean to say that Scotland only had 1 referendum? And everyone agreed with the result? No demands for another vote? Well well well. Democracy can work...

  • @user-fz3jb1wi2c
    @user-fz3jb1wi2c Před 4 lety +4

    It’s a beautiful landscape

  • @h.s.3401
    @h.s.3401 Před 5 lety +11

    I can't wait for this day

  • @thatdutchguy2882
    @thatdutchguy2882 Před 4 lety +17

    *52%* _is for Scottish independence outright now 2019._
    *+ 1 out of 5 Scottish that voted to remain in the UK last time,...now have come to their sence's and will vote to leave the UK and join the EU.*
    That's the reality you'll face before 2021.

    • @rosspatterson1233
      @rosspatterson1233 Před 4 lety

      Please leave already. We’re sick of your whining

    • @thatdutchguy2882
      @thatdutchguy2882 Před 4 lety +1

      @@don-jx2xn Stop pretending your Scottish,...i told you that before,...6 month's ago Yank.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      52% isn't exactly a massive majority is it. Same as the Brexit vote which is considered not decisive enough. All it means is Scotland split down the middle, more fighting, more bitterness. Do you really want more years of that? Has Brexit taught you nothing?

    • @thatdutchguy2882
      @thatdutchguy2882 Před 4 lety

      @@mogznwaz *+1 out of 5 Scottish that voted to remain in the UK last time, now have come to their sense's and will vote to leave the UK and join the EU.*
      You ignored that very important part untop of the already very high figure of 52% m8, hence i reminded you of that super important fact again.

  • @akrforrest
    @akrforrest Před 5 lety

    Nice to feature Berwick on Tweed there...

  • @DOBERMAN715
    @DOBERMAN715 Před 4 lety +2

    Just remember all you Scotts that GB has a debt of 1.78 trillion and you are part of it. So when you gain independence don't forget to pay your bills before you go. When you move house, your bills don't just vanish.

    • @Henry-vu5sg
      @Henry-vu5sg Před 4 lety +3

      Did Rep of Ireland pay any 'debts' when they left? Scottish oil revenues returned? Since Scotland can't borrow it stands that they have no debts. There! Fixed it for you.

  • @withoutwroeirs
    @withoutwroeirs Před 5 lety +3

    Whatever might be the opinion of either camp, it seems Scotland's interests and choices are continuously thwarted by a political party that seeks to serve their own interests. The real question should be, do Scottish residents wish an independent voice? Or remain servants to a system past its sell by date?

    • @withoutwroeirs
      @withoutwroeirs Před 5 lety +1

      @stephen Krik all but in name, they cannot conduct the wishes of the people without the say so of Westminster. Some privilege.

    • @withoutwroeirs
      @withoutwroeirs Před 5 lety +1

      ​@stephen Krik democracy must be based on truths, facts, and kept promises. Since neither were honoured in both referenda, which should the result? defending the contrary seems difficult to understand. Just my opinion as an outside observer, don't actually live in the UK.

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety +2

      True story all the SNP Government bang on about is independence yet my son's schools are struggling to stay open fucking disgrace of a party and the brainwashed idiots that vote them in are just as bad.

    • @NuclearHaggis
      @NuclearHaggis Před 5 lety +1

      @@andyf7973
      You can't have universal healthcare, universal education and mitigate the Conservatives vandalism of the welfare state without Danish levels of income tax, VAT, and corporation tax.
      VAT and corporation tax are reserved to the British parliament, Andrew.

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety

      @@NuclearHaggis what does that have to do with the budget the SNP dishes out to council's for school's? I suppose going by you're fancy hyphenated name you've never been to a council run school never mind the snobs will do ok if they vote for independence love to know where our money is coming from now the north sea oil and gas field's are practically useless 🤔

  • @globaltraveller
    @globaltraveller Před 5 lety +16

    Scotland was a European nation before it was a British one. I support Scotland becoming independent (and staying in the EU), not for any pernicious, nationalistic reasons but because I see Scotland inside the UK as being a position of managed decline. Westminster quite frankly couldn't care less what happens to Scotland. Why should they? We are a tiny proportion of their problems - their major constituency is the south of England, which is totally different to Scotland. It has different problems which required different solutions. To be honest, when you look at what the UK is currently reduced to with a barely functioning government and shambolic political system - an incompetent global laughing stock, you've really got to wonder how Scotland would do much worse. I very much respect Scotland's ties with England, Wales and NI mainly for historical sentimental reasons - but Scotland and England (and Wales and NI), we need to realise we don't have a lot in common any more politically or, increasingly, economically. Historical sentimentality does not pay the bills and neither does it make up for the huge political gulf that lies between Scotland and the rest of the UK. Let's just part ways as close family. Sharing the same island, trading with each other without need to share the same house and bank account.

    • @LolLol-ch7sl
      @LolLol-ch7sl Před 5 lety +2

      Because Jean claude junker cares about Scotland?

    • @queeniepie4364
      @queeniepie4364 Před 5 lety +1

      @@LolLol-ch7sl lol

    • @queeniepie4364
      @queeniepie4364 Před 5 lety +2

      Our Union of over 300 years makes us all British and proud to be British, I think it's disgusting and despicable that anyone would want to break up our great Union, we fought wars together, we achieved great thing together, you will always someone trying to find some grievance and reason to be disgruntled about nothing. The SNP were always a wasted vote and they still are. We said NO we meant it!!

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety +2

      Really? 🤔 pretty sure the EU wasn't invented until after ww2 and pretty sure Scotland was in the union since the 1700's 🤣🤣 fucking idiot...

    • @callummcgregorenthusiast5545
      @callummcgregorenthusiast5545 Před 5 lety +2

      Queenie XRP Scotlands oldest ally is the French, we fought wars with them. As the commenter said, historical sentiment doesn't efficiently run a country

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 3 lety +1

    All polls this year show the Scottish people want Independence
    12/4/20 Opinium found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    25/5/20 YouGov found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    4/6/20 Opinium found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    21/6/20 Panelbase found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    12/8/20 YouGov found that 53 per cent of people would vote Yes
    19/8/20 Savanta ComRes found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    19/8/20 Panelbase found that 55 per cent of people would vote Yes
    02/9/20 Panelbase found that 63 per cent of people would vote Yes
    7/9/20 Survation found that 53 per cent of people would vote Yes
    20/9/20 HeraldScotland found that 72 per cent of people would vote Yes
    22/9/20 IpsosMORI found that 60 per cent of people would vote Yes
    26/9/20 Glasgow Herald found that 68 per cent of people would vote Yes
    11/10/20 Survation found that 64 per cent of people would vote Yes
    14/10/20 IpsosMORI found that 58 per cent of people would vote Yes
    30/10/20 JL Partners found that 56 per cent of people would vote Yes
    6/11/20 Survation found that 54 per cent of people would vote Yes
    16/11/20 Panelbase found that 56 per cent of people would vote Yes

  • @MrSouter2
    @MrSouter2 Před 5 lety +2

    its cancer vs cancer. just kill me now.

  • @jbagger331
    @jbagger331 Před 5 lety +8

    London panic continues.

  • @stephenfowlie742
    @stephenfowlie742 Před 5 lety +7

    How can any proud and decent Scot not vote for independence? Enough of foreign powers ruling us, and by that I mean Westminster.

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety +1

      Yet you're happy to be ruled by Brussels. That's not independence.

    • @Si1234321
      @Si1234321 Před 5 lety

      How can any proud highlander be happy with those in Holyrood ruling them?

  • @yasinabdurahman8328
    @yasinabdurahman8328 Před 4 lety +1

    Do not let nicolas sturgeon lie to you. If you leave the UK, it will take scotland 10 years to join EU

  • @Gruegy
    @Gruegy Před 5 lety +4

    And Scotland's biggest trading partner is......

    • @johnmaclagan2263
      @johnmaclagan2263 Před 5 lety +4

      And England's exports are ?

    • @sicgc7658
      @sicgc7658 Před 5 lety +1

      Gruegy And thanks to the UK Single Market, we cant tax those goods to the UK; we lose our £4bn quarterly trade balance surplus and take on a share of the UK’s deficit of £12bn per capita resulting in a net loss of £64bn in taxable income, economic growth and investment credit every single year - just by remaining within the UK. It genuinely would be far better to trade with the UK without being a member of the UK because it’s a deal that is entirely detrimental to us.

    • @Gruegy
      @Gruegy Před 5 lety +2

      @@sicgc7658 If my understanding is correct, you are saying that by leaving the UK you can tax your goods to England, Wales and NI? Does this imply to the EU also which you wish to be a member state of? I thought that the EU was all about free movement of goods on a tariff free basis.

    • @sicgc7658
      @sicgc7658 Před 5 lety +1

      Gruegy There are no fixed tariffs within the UK nor EU single market, nor are there duty tariffs. This isn’t what is being discussed here. Profits and income made off of exports are a part of taxable income, the same profits from balance of trade. These can fall under several different forms depending on whether it’s corporate, private, personal, individual etc. This is the tax I’m talking about. It’s currently an unrequited market in the UK. Goods leaving or entering England, even if indirectly from the other 3 nations (inc. crown dependencies), is taxed as an English good, when leaving an English port or cross-border. However, imports from the rUK are do not fall under taxable income, meaning the other nations lose out on tax profit. This allows England to generate income whilst trying to centralise markets into a trade centre (in this case London) and deter companies from expanding into Scotland, Wales nor Northern Ireland, and encourages tax evasion in the dependencies. This is actually a bad thing for many of working class in England as they lose the benefit of close trade and it can harm small and medium sized company profits across different nations in the UK - however, it’s entirely detrimental and costs billions for us in Scotland, not just the working class.
      The UK is fundamentally broken, including many poorer individuals south of the border, however I welcome anyone in England, Wales or NI who wishes to remain in the EU or in general live here. Going independent won’t make us enemies, we’ll remain neighbours and best friends - and that’s a good thing!

    • @Gruegy
      @Gruegy Před 5 lety

      @@sicgc7658 Thank you for your clarification. Much appreciated. I do disagree with you; tax is by the UK and not England. How the tax is divided within the UK is another matter and I see the point that you are trying to make. I would be grateful if you could provide a breakdown or link of your earlier figures to peruse through.

  • @nancyreid2710
    @nancyreid2710 Před 5 lety +18

    I will not vote idependance again its not independent being governed by the EU.

    • @Jimmy4video
      @Jimmy4video Před 5 lety +10

      Another English kipper pretending to be a Scot...

    • @BatTaz19
      @BatTaz19 Před 5 lety +5

      @Tailend Charlie Take the hint and stop trying to dictate to other countries. You no longer rule anything. You can't even rule yourselves.

    • @maanze9284
      @maanze9284 Před 5 lety +1

      @Tailend Charlie I feel you are being dictated by a bad hair day.

    • @BatTaz19
      @BatTaz19 Před 5 lety +4

      @Tailend Charlie Your antiScottish blowing is the only wind around here.
      London is Brussels to the Scots and the Irish. You are hypocrites.
      Kippers are krazy 🤪.

    • @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433
      @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433 Před 5 lety +3

      Well said Nancy!!

  • @paulsmith-xe4dq
    @paulsmith-xe4dq Před 5 lety +34

    I live in Scotland, I voted out of the EU. Scotland wont ever leave the UK, if they did just imagine the border issues :)

    • @patched8789
      @patched8789 Před 5 lety +14

      Funny...now that Breixteers seem to give a shit about Borders...not so much in NI though...

    • @noahbowie5985
      @noahbowie5985 Před 5 lety +8

      I'm English, I grew up in Scotland but I now live in London. So if anything I have a better view of this whole situation than most people. The whole argument for Scottish Independence is just rubbish. Back in 2014 the Yes campaign said that the North sea oil would be one of the biggest sources of income. However the price of oil has since collapsed, the price to gather oil in the UK has skyrocketed and there is hardly any left. Which clearly shows their severe lack of foresight. So if Nicola Sturgeon wants to divide an already divided nation once again then I think she it's only fair that she faces some severe consequences. I've always considered the SNP to be the political equivalent of a spoilt child. They throw all their toys out the pram when they don't get their way, they keep on dreaming of a future without other people helping them and they have no consideration for their closest friends and family.
      I've always referred to Scottish independence as operation out of the frying pan...into the fire and I still do

    • @prophetsnake
      @prophetsnake Před 5 lety +4

      There won't be a UK soon in any case Once NI leaves, and it will, no more UK!

    • @angiegriffiths8873
      @angiegriffiths8873 Před 5 lety +8

      @Frankly Frank what is independence? Leave the UK and stay in the EU isn't independence.

    • @skippyshake
      @skippyshake Před 5 lety +1

      @@angiegriffiths8873 The world revolves around interdependence

  • @phaedracollins6051
    @phaedracollins6051 Před 5 lety +1

    With oil not at $120 a barrel yet and the loss of Barnett Scotland will be in an interesting economic situation.

    • @PMMagro
      @PMMagro Před 5 lety

      British Petrolium is hardly a 100% Scottish company?

    • @johnmaclagan2263
      @johnmaclagan2263 Před 5 lety

      You know takings are only £1billion, Scotland needs £60billion a year - the oil thing is pretty irrelevant

    • @darrensmith1522
      @darrensmith1522 Před 5 lety

      One word renewable

    • @phaedracollins6051
      @phaedracollins6051 Před 5 lety

      @@darrensmith1522 Renewable what?

  • @jacklester8141
    @jacklester8141 Před 5 lety +2

    I dont understand the scottish independence. Its economic, political suicide because by doing that it could lead to a hard border between Scotland main trading partner and the European Union will not want Scotland to be part of it due to being seen as a liability rather than an asset.

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety

      Because your not Scottish and your not being told what to do by an English majority government and voter base.

    • @jacklester8141
      @jacklester8141 Před 4 lety

      @@hiddenknowledge2012 by Scotland still gets the best deal economically and politically

    • @himmelkami3308
      @himmelkami3308 Před 4 lety +1

      Scotland has oil. England doesnt.

  • @dotexe55games31
    @dotexe55games31 Před 5 lety +4

    Should it not be the BBC and the rest of the MSM vs Brexit ?

  • @PasscodeAdvance
    @PasscodeAdvance Před 5 lety +11

    I hope Scotland becames independant! Love from India

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 2 lety

    The Scottish government passed the Referendum Bill...10/02/2022 and has said the Indyref2 will be at the end of 2023.

  • @KM-cw1gv
    @KM-cw1gv Před 5 lety +2

    This is a bit disingenuous because it makes it look like opinions are split 50/50 this way when they definitely are not. The only proof you need is to go out and talk to people. No/leave voters are very rare. Yes/remain aren't and no/remain aren't. It's that last group that are changing their minds in droves to YES!

  • @lr9882
    @lr9882 Před 4 lety +8

    I support the Scottish independence, from Italy

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety +3

      You support Scottish independence but not UK independence from the EU. Hypocrite.

    • @blorpclorb4258
      @blorpclorb4258 Před 4 lety +1

      mogznwaz
      That’s not even hypocrisy. What the fuck are you on about?

    • @benk9397
      @benk9397 Před 4 lety +1

      I vote for independence for all EU countries

  • @AP-yx1mm
    @AP-yx1mm Před 5 lety +7

    The only thing they have in common are blue eyes.

  • @Judgeitso
    @Judgeitso Před 5 lety +1

    The BBC could not get any worse at covering this issue. This crap is on a level with Glenda Slagg, the licence fee has to go.

  • @mark39ful
    @mark39ful Před 4 lety +2

    If you leave the UK it’s not independence because then you will have the EU telling you idiots what to do 😂

  • @goldenteacher2011
    @goldenteacher2011 Před 5 lety +5

    That door’s a bit of a fire hazard...

    • @warnpassion
      @warnpassion Před 5 lety

      stewee2011 Thank you for this comment completely relevant to the video.

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety

      In that clip I hit a table opening the door. We did a retake because it looked so bad. Yet it made the final edit lol.

    • @goldenteacher2011
      @goldenteacher2011 Před 5 lety

      Peter Campbell 😆

  • @LucifersTear
    @LucifersTear Před 5 lety +6

    Fair point raised here. Polar opposites; can still talk on an open platform.
    Ultimately, though you may be defined by your position. We gave to follow democracy.

    • @petersebok9284
      @petersebok9284 Před 5 lety +1

      And what is democracy?

    • @Ricky911_
      @Ricky911_ Před 5 lety +1

      @@petersebok9284 democracy comes from Greek, demos and kratia (power of the people). It's basically a community where there's equality and everyone has free speech

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 Před 5 lety +1

    37% of the electorate voting leave is not a majority

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety

      52% voted leave. Otherwise known as a majority.

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 4 lety

      @WilliamTheConquerer that's how democracy works. The side who gets the most votes wins, no matter how slight.
      If you would like an example of a landslide, how does the Tory majority of the recent election sound?

  • @Enitarmon
    @Enitarmon Před 4 lety +1

    As a Norwegian can we adopt!

    • @heucatia
      @heucatia Před 4 lety

      XD XD XD NO! What you can and should do is become even better trade partners, Scotland would appreciate that.

  • @petersebok9284
    @petersebok9284 Před 5 lety +6

    I don't have any personal objects on my phone cover. Good sign as I back remain too

  • @J0sh-
    @J0sh- Před 5 lety +3

    I’d be absolutely gutted if Scotland split from the union the history our peoples share is unparalleled, regardless of the fighting hundreds of years ago I see Scots as a blood brothers in arms, the sacrifices made by our ancestors to create a union that went on to dominate the world.
    Love live Scotland.
    Long live the United Kingdom.
    Long live the Empire.

    • @allybaba37
      @allybaba37 Před 5 lety +1

      dominate may not be accurate parasitic, britain plundered and pillaged the world including scotland and is still doing so, it is our right for self determination and our right as i believe will now come our independence, do not let the media cloud your view we do not hate the english people we hate westminster and all it stands for, we want the right to make our own decisions, as england turns ever more right wing scotland are choosing a different path, be free to make that choice, the european elections our entire map turned yellow englands turned blue that should be enough to show people how different we are but as usual westminster takes all our decisions for us. Do not be gutted we will still be here, your neighbours your friends your allies, but free and happier

    • @J0sh-
      @J0sh- Před 5 lety

      ​@@allybaba37 SNP want to part away from the United Kingdom but remain a part of the EU what an oxymoron, Brussels would make your laws then. The scots have been sold a false dream of freedom & patriotism, Nicola Sturgeon has admitted she wishes she could change her party’s name because she doesn't believe in Scottish nationalism. You would still be under the British Monarchy as well if you left as a dominion with the monarch as the head of state, hardly free.
      How could you downplay our nations collectively controlled 25% of the worlds landmass under our union banner it was a great achievement its hardly fair to judge the actions of the empire under modern morality it was a different time where EVERY nation was taking advantage of everyone by any means necessary to get a leg up economically.
      Regardless I respect your opinion on the matter, god bless Scotland.

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety +1

      Fuck the crown and fuck the empire. The time is over for outdated monarchies and an English majority government. You can shout about our past and history all you want but that doesn't change anything, the government is still corrupt and Scotland's vote still means nothing. if you cared that much about Scotland then you would be fine with full devolution of powers in a true democracy.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      Yes, I do find it weird that all our history and shared blood and our home on this little island would mean less to the Scots than being in the bureaucratic EU. The English are currently the target of hate but sooner or later Brussels will be. Some Scots just love to whinge. But that's ok we love you anyway 😘

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      @Jimmy Mac Say the Scots obsessed with their tribal tartans

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 3 lety +1

    Boris Johnson’s place in history is already assured. Less clear is what the British prime minister will be remembered for. At first it looked like Brexit; more recently he seemed set to be the pandemic premier. But this week, as he celebrates his first year in office, a new fear is that he might be known as the leader who lost the Union as polls are now constantly above 55% for Independence.

  • @user-jl8io3ik5y
    @user-jl8io3ik5y Před 5 lety

    'I've got a swan on the outside because I'm calm on the outside...
    ...and I'm fucking mental on the inside'

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety

      When she started quizzing me on my tattoos I got a bit startled as to why she was so interested. However to call someone 'mental' for possessing a different opinion to yourself brings your own mental state into question.

  • @saraevelynsmith
    @saraevelynsmith Před 5 lety +14

    I voted the exact same as Harry

  • @voice_of_reason5604
    @voice_of_reason5604 Před 4 lety +7

    First of all I am a proud Scot who voted yes in 2014 (as a protest vote tbh). Since and in light of brexit negotiations, I have changed my mind and would vote no. Reasons 1. If you think brexit negotiations are tough, wait til you see any future leaving negotiations with rest of the Union, it would cost scotland dear, all for a great big SNP ego trip. 2. We have a growing number of family ties in England. 3 This is 2019 not 1314 or 1745. 4. EU (germany / France) will not throw money at us to join them. They'll have they're own financial issues, trying to keep the rest together. Then there's the current EU immigration policy (I've no problem with those people already here to work and contribute), potential EU army involving us in disputes we want no part of etc etc. On balance head rules the heart and I am persuaded to say stay in UK, until someone comes up with a bullet proof (economic) arguement to the contrary.

    • @ScotsDestroyer
      @ScotsDestroyer Před 4 lety +1

      A comment with logic.
      But honestly if we left the EU originally it would be the norm by now.
      Uncertainty is fucking everything up.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety +1

      THERE! There's the smart sensible Scot I know and love! Not the rabid English hating nationalist! I knew you still existed 😘

    • @voice_of_reason5604
      @voice_of_reason5604 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mogznwaz there's still a good number of us. It's the noisy SNP element that get the air time.

    • @kryoboy36
      @kryoboy36 Před 3 lety

      @@mogznwaz yeah but English hating nationalists still exist😉
      🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿#2 inevitable now
      You can Thank Boris for that🤣🤣🤣
      I wish you all the best in the waves to come😂
      Actually I don't,I hope you suffer and squirm as England crumbles as a result of being rasict ignorant arrogant entitled arseholes,karma will be the judge
      🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Will be free of English shackles soon enough.you can't stop the building momentum

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 3 lety

      @@kryoboy36 You're an asshole. And a racist!

  • @Zerpentsa6598
    @Zerpentsa6598 Před 4 lety +1

    NI right belongs to the Republic. People there are scrambling to get Irish passport. They are voting with their feet.

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether Před 4 lety

    Say remain wins again, are we going to have a vote on independence in another 4 years? What if Scotland do become independent? Will there be another vote in 4 years since there are still a large number of remainers? And after that? I am truly curious..

  • @ryanboshell6124
    @ryanboshell6124 Před 5 lety +7

    I’m from Yorkshire, and I feel a deep affinity with Scottish people. The town I live in, Doncaster, is technically a Scottish town (google it). There’s a deep sadness that the mainstream media ignores Scotland and the voices of its people. Similarly with Wales and N. Ireland. I’m glad that all of the Nations within the U.K have their uniques identity, but these need to be celebrated, not ignored.

    • @jameswhiteley6843
      @jameswhiteley6843 Před 5 lety +4

      Then I'm sure you'll be equally saddened that there are more people in Yorkshire than Scotland, yet Scotland receives more money from the Government, has free university educations and free prescriptions. Scotland is also not ignored as they have their own parliament.

    • @ryanboshell6124
      @ryanboshell6124 Před 5 lety

      JAMES WHITELEY “Mainstream Media” and they get free tuition because they organise their budget effectively.

    • @JesterEric
      @JesterEric Před 5 lety +3

      @@ryanboshell6124 Scotland gets more government money per head. When things were run by Scottish office it was efficient. Now Scotland has its own parliament things are going downhill

    • @jameswhiteley6843
      @jameswhiteley6843 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ryanboshell6124 the Government doesn't own mainstream media. The BBC operates differently in Scotland.

    • @ryanboshell6124
      @ryanboshell6124 Před 5 lety

      JAMES WHITELEY I’m making the distinction. I said that “the mainstream media ignores” my original post said nothing about government.

  • @smiggo1481
    @smiggo1481 Před 5 lety +4

    Its OK to be a Scottish nationalist and be proud to be a Scot, rearrange this with English and your a far right fascist. Given enough immigration into Scotland so that its no longer "Scottish" the nationalists tend to change opinion because what they are proud of starts to disappear IMO.

    • @ScottishRoss27
      @ScottishRoss27 Před 5 lety +1

      You seem to have came tothat conclusion in your own head? of the first part. Good contribution poigant smiggo hector

    • @rogerbennett9641
      @rogerbennett9641 Před 5 lety

      Vote UKIP.

    • @ScottishRoss27
      @ScottishRoss27 Před 5 lety

      @@rogerbennett9641 ​ Roger Bennett Did you see that on side of a bus? and thought a slogan im totally convinced im that convinced im gony become reduced to marketing on the internet for a dodgy pparty that are standing for democratic election to the undemocratic eu as you lot say . they have you marketering them for there election campain for the undemocratic eu simultaneously ., ,if you follow, played you like a garden chimes havnt they. poor roger

    • @rogerbennett9641
      @rogerbennett9641 Před 5 lety

      @@ScottishRoss27 The only people being played are the powerless EU citizens who still think they live in countries.

    • @ScottishRoss27
      @ScottishRoss27 Před 5 lety

      @@rogerbennett9641 What country are you from roger ? Are you able to say or is the big bad eu prohibiting you , ukip think uk is one country Even though its 4

  • @benk9397
    @benk9397 Před 4 lety

    starts his question stating no deal is mental, why would you want to cut ties with your closest economic partner.....While wanting to leave the U.K........says it all

  • @endrigomaturro6999
    @endrigomaturro6999 Před 5 lety

    Some people seem to have problems with democracy, if they were feeling ignored in Westminster, why did not they vote for independence in 2014?

    • @callummcgregorenthusiast5545
      @callummcgregorenthusiast5545 Před 5 lety +2

      Because in 2014 we were told the only way to stay in the EU was to vote no to Scottish independence.

    • @yuhj6817
      @yuhj6817 Před 4 lety

      Callum McGregor Enthusiast What is your common things with EU? Language? Culture? There is nothing between EU and Scotland in reality while we have been united as great Britain with England and made History and shared language and manu other things , Scottish Independence is crazy is just like a nation who are destroying themselves and their history and oldest currency and more , you see now in Coronavirus crises there is no help between EU nation, EU is based on its own current interest and nothing more , Wake up before we lose everything as Great Britain and have little and weak Scotland and England who always need EU support

  • @RollaArtis
    @RollaArtis Před 5 lety +10

    OK so if England has limits on EU migration and Scotland remains within the EU, unlimited numbers of European workers will of course be welcome in Scotland with open arms

    • @immortaltyrant2474
      @immortaltyrant2474 Před 4 lety

      @@pascal3178 Not if we leave - which is we want to.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      Yes they will. Goodbye to Scotland as you know it. Scotland has had relatively little mass immigration compared to England. You won't be happy when Edinburgh is majority Muslim like London is becoming. Although remembering how those Glaswegians dealt with that airport terrorist a few years back - that was fecking AWESOME.

  • @twist777hz
    @twist777hz Před 5 lety +9

    Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland should form the "Celtic Confederation".

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety +1

      Nah mate more of us huns than tims in Scotland thanks...

  • @wanderingpots
    @wanderingpots Před 5 lety

    If Brexit happens the problem for Scotland is the U.K parliament will have sovereignty over the Scottish parliament, Brexit doesn’t go with the previous devolution that happened under Blair. It is also a problem for human rights as parliament can then take them away and they cannot be held to account by the courts anymore.

  • @shafaqshah8589
    @shafaqshah8589 Před 4 lety

    What a contrast, if UK(ENGLAND) wished to leave [EU]European Union, they can hold referendum and leave as they wished but if Scotland wishes to leave Union of Kingdoms, they are not allowed. Is this demonstratic approach? BY LONDON.

  • @whoflungdung1046
    @whoflungdung1046 Před 5 lety +17

    My next door neighbour voted to remain in the EU so his options were to moan and moan about the result or he could accept the democratic result and move on, he now says if we had another referendum he'd vote to leave the EU as his eye's have been opened. He was also a staunch Labour supporter but now says he'd never vote for them again, nor the Tories. He's now a brexiteer. Politics are changing NOT because of brexit, but because Democracy has been blatantly stamped on by the UK politicians. The people have had enough...

    • @bosoerjadi2838
      @bosoerjadi2838 Před 5 lety +8

      I don't believe you.

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns Před 5 lety +4

      I'm like your neighbour. As a socialist, I recognise that the only way to achieve my aims are through Brexit. Socialists are tricked into being Remainers by being told that Brexit equals racism. That said, the far left never fell for that. Almost all far-left parties endorsed Leave. I am in the tradition of Tony Benn.

    • @surfaceten510n
      @surfaceten510n Před 5 lety +4

      @@YorickReturns Not leaving the EU and all its institutions the Labour party would not be able to implement any changes in trying to nationalise any British companies That is why Corbin has been very quiet on the direction the labour party are going, scared he loses the backing of Momentum if he follows his past stance on EU and scared of losing 5 million leave voters in the north if he declares for remain his only option was to call for another referendum in a so called peoples vote so he cant be blamed for any decision he would have to make

    • @Archeaon
      @Archeaon Před 5 lety +3

      @@bosoerjadi2838 Man just click on the icon, he claims to be a brexiteers but he listen to american confederate music, he is just an idiot looking for attention like the one with the kitty cat and the baseballs. American alt-right trying to make critical mass for europe alt-right because society is cruel with white males that cannot have slaves anymore

    • @whoflungdung1046
      @whoflungdung1046 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Archeaon What has music got to do with brexit you plonker? Lol

  • @mickeypearce244
    @mickeypearce244 Před 5 lety +4

    I remember Nicola telling SNP supporters if they wanted independence then they should vote to remain in the EU. She knew that was the key to another indyref. I have work colleagues that wanted to leave the EU but wanted independence more so voted to remain. The SNP only care about independence for Scotland, they couldn't care less about remaining in the EU, it's just a means to an end.

  • @iliveinurcloset
    @iliveinurcloset Před 4 lety

    No

  • @fearghal10
    @fearghal10 Před 5 lety

    The worst element of this story is that I fear the government are aware that the better the resolution they find to the Irish border question, the more they will facilitate a framework for post brexit Scottish independance. So now their calculus is "Either we risk loosing NI and Scotland, or we fuck both of them up so much they can't even walk away".

  • @chefinavan1
    @chefinavan1 Před 5 lety +3

    I want no deal

  • @moow950
    @moow950 Před 5 lety +25

    The tattooed nerd is no real Scot, but some kind of implanted English conservative.

    • @toonlegend4044
      @toonlegend4044 Před 5 lety +15

      Nah, he just doesn't follow the status quo like you morons. You want independence from the UK because you want to control your country and your laws even though you want to stay in the EU where your laws are controlled by the EU commission in Brussels. That makes no sense at all.

    • @TheSpiritOfTheTimes
      @TheSpiritOfTheTimes Před 5 lety +16

      @@toonlegend4044 It doesn't make sense because it's a moronic mischaracterization of the EU lol. The UK is an anachronism wherein Scotland is not a proper free country. Every country in the EU is a proper free country.

    • @craig581
      @craig581 Před 5 lety +3

      @@TheSpiritOfTheTimes They have the Barnett Formula! They have freed healthcare and free education! That all goes if they leave! Think man! If you believe the EU is a free state, then you are deluded!

    • @toonlegend4044
      @toonlegend4044 Před 5 lety +8

      ​@@TheSpiritOfTheTimes No, you're classically misunderstanding the EU. The EU commission is in charge of proposing and accepting new laws that affect all 28, soon to be 27, member states. The European Parliament has no real power in term of creating legislation. Scotland on the other hand has a powerful Scottish parliament that can create it's own legislation. This is to a certain extent of course because you're a member of the UK, however to suggest that you're a fully independent country when inside the EU is simply moronic.

    • @TheSpiritOfTheTimes
      @TheSpiritOfTheTimes Před 5 lety +3

      @@craig581So they should be grateful for their vassalage to the English because the munificent English pay for their healthcare and education?

  • @bretwalda8543
    @bretwalda8543 Před 5 lety +2

    Peter 💪

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 Před 4 lety

    Here's another thought........If the UK does leave, then where does that leave France? Second fiddle to Germany with no third power in the mix to steady her possible ambitions? Just saying..........

  • @sandall7398
    @sandall7398 Před 5 lety +7

    I voted remain at the last Scottish independence referendum. If it came round again I would vote for an independent Scotland. The backslash in middle England to leave has astounded me, and let me see how little I have in common with the average English person. I could explain in great detail, but not in the short comment section here.

    • @trophies1968
      @trophies1968 Před 5 lety +2

      And how would you bankroll the economy! That last time around the idiot SNP were going to run the country with another countries currency and use oil to fund the country. SNP went quite when the oil prices dropped like a stone and this country would have ended up like Greece......totally fucked. So I would say we are better as the UK.

    • @JC-mv7rw
      @JC-mv7rw Před 5 lety +2

      I'll be voting to remain 👌 so that's your vote rendered useless

    • @sandall7398
      @sandall7398 Před 5 lety

      @@trophies1968 Same point as you're making about UK leaving the EU.

    • @sandall7398
      @sandall7398 Před 5 lety +2

      @@JC-mv7rw It is a free country. You can vote whichever way you want.

    • @sandall7398
      @sandall7398 Před 5 lety

      @@trophies1968 Ireland are doing rather well.

  • @JYGO1020
    @JYGO1020 Před 5 lety +5

    I would like to see Scotland out of the UK and the EU.

    • @js7085
      @js7085 Před 5 lety +1

      Scotland doesnt wish to be that independent 😋

    • @andyf7973
      @andyf7973 Před 5 lety

      Of course you would u yessers are always moaning

    • @endrigomaturro6999
      @endrigomaturro6999 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes, this is true independence.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      I respect that choice far more than leaving the UK then signing over your independence to the EU!

  • @sophiemcneill7375
    @sophiemcneill7375 Před 5 lety +2

    Harry is the best

  • @petmot3324
    @petmot3324 Před 4 lety

    Scotland has no vote in UK with only 5 millions people..you can say 100% or 0% YES or NO - it does not matter you follow English (40millions) vote. How is that fair.

  • @scottishbombolini7794
    @scottishbombolini7794 Před 5 lety +5

    The English will ensure Scottish Independence happens, with their continuing voting for the Tories. The ties that bound have broken, time for us Scots to become an addition to that long list of Jonny Foreigners the English nationalist love to use.

    • @gregorarmstrong2478
      @gregorarmstrong2478 Před 5 lety +1

      You know at some point there will be a conservative government in holyrood. I don’t want it but it will happen. Being independent won’t mean that Scotland is never ruled by a right wing government

    • @scottishbombolini7794
      @scottishbombolini7794 Před 5 lety

      @@gregorarmstrong2478 Have no problem with a Conservative Government in Holyrood if voted by my fellow country men/women after Independence happens. If that's the choice of the people of Scotland so be it, but the Tories will never win in Holyrood without Independence happening they just have nothing to offer us Scots, which is a travesty. The whole point of Independence is to allow the 5.5mil of us to elect a Government that represents us

    • @gregorarmstrong2478
      @gregorarmstrong2478 Před 5 lety +1

      That Scottish Guy It seemed as though you thought that independence would prevent the conservatives gaining power. Also Scotland is represented in Westminister. There are fewer Scots so therefore there are fewer mps and constituency’s. When Scotland almost entirely voted labour did anyone say we weren’t represented? No because we voted the same way as most of England and Wales.

    • @scottishbombolini7794
      @scottishbombolini7794 Před 5 lety

      @@gregorarmstrong2478 EVEL changed everything regarding Scottish representation at Westminister, the Tories broke the model of how it worked before, indeed on the morning of the 19th of September when David Cameron walked out of number 10 and spoke of the need for the voice of England to be heard at Westminister with the introduction of English votes for English laws. Oh yes, Vote labour for a strong voice against the Tories, myself like so many others voted Labour and got a lesson in life, that's one of the reasons Labour party has died in Scotland. Voted 56 SNP MPs and learned another lesson in life regarding UK politics, the sight of both the main parties voting together to deny the stated will of the people of Scotland .

    • @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433
      @carlosandresmunozalatorre4433 Před 5 lety +1

      The SNP has less to offer to Scotland....The half of Scotland voted for Tories

  • @trophies1968
    @trophies1968 Před 5 lety +5

    That guy is talking crap. We voted to stay and that's it. We voted to leave EU. It not a federal system we voted as one country.....the UK. We aren't cutting links.....has he been sleeping. I voted to leave. No deal the is the hardest option but cleanest option. Take the short term hit and come back stronger.

    • @ShaneDGri
      @ShaneDGri Před 5 lety +1

      No the UK is not 'one country' it is since the late 1990s a semi federal nation. With a series of unique constitutional settlements with each constituent region.
      Scotland has its own Parliament and Wales and NI have Assemblies. each has the ability to make decisions on issues such as health, education, social welfare, agriculture and transportation that the UK government (seated in Westminster) has no control over outside of imposing budgetary constraints.
      Take my home, NI, for example if you lived in 'one country' the law would be same in each region BUT in NI we have special laws - the only armed police force in the UK, no same sex marriage, different public holidays, the special powers act means that serious criminal trials without a jury are the norm not the exception, serious curtailment of freedoms to speech and assembly that most in England would consider anti democratic and our government is a mandatory coalition (when it could be arsed to sit) to name but a few.
      So if the Laws in England are not the same as in NI then how can we live in 'one country'?

  • @georgepaul1613
    @georgepaul1613 Před 2 lety

    peter got called bum chin at school

  • @patrickmurphy9266
    @patrickmurphy9266 Před 4 lety

    If independence happens what will happen with Balmoral Castle ?

    • @heucatia
      @heucatia Před 4 lety

      It will be turned into an AIRBnB hahaha No, for reals now, it will continue to belong to the Windsors. Foreigners can own property in Scotland, and that's exactly what they will be: a foreign family who owns property in the country, paying their taxes to the Scottish government!

  • @imanomad557
    @imanomad557 Před 5 lety +7

    What a load of absolute crap.

  • @diekssus7194
    @diekssus7194 Před 5 lety +5

    and there is that BBC false equivalency again

  • @A2Z1Two3
    @A2Z1Two3 Před 4 lety +1

    Ok they voted to leave , so have another referendum , two questions only again.
    Leave WITH a deal
    Or
    Leave WITHOUT a deal.
    That’s fair, and solves the chaps question about no voting for no deal.
    So let’s have that second referendum .

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      Yes I have no problem with a 2nd referendum with those 2 options. It gives us the choice and honours the first referendum too. Democracy is more important than the fecking EU, we MUST leave..

  • @bendigeidfranemmanueljones5694

    Rangers and Celtic would be better together. There would be efficiency savings in their internal market. Peace and harmony would break out between once rival fans. It would be an economically stronger superclub.

  • @huludwig2486
    @huludwig2486 Před 4 lety +5

    support the independence of Scotland, Northern Ireland

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety +1

      Hu Ludwig You cannot be independent if the EU owns you

    • @ScotsDestroyer
      @ScotsDestroyer Před 4 lety

      Independence of what?

    • @huludwig2486
      @huludwig2486 Před 4 lety

      @@ScotsDestroyer XDXD. I wrote like that deliberately.

    • @huludwig2486
      @huludwig2486 Před 4 lety

      @@mark39ful U are wrong. U neglect the value of democracy and freedom, which EU doesn't have or give to us.

    • @ScotsDestroyer
      @ScotsDestroyer Před 4 lety

      @@huludwig2486 what?
      Independence from who? The UK? EU?

  • @Markdmarque
    @Markdmarque Před 5 lety +3

    The EU has given us so much and we stand more to lose than gain from leaving EU

    • @Markdmarque
      @Markdmarque Před 5 lety +2

      @littlebighorn well we will certainly be importing lower quality goods after Brexit as EU has higher standards than most.
      Quality of being in EU is good...Not sure what you mean?

    • @Markdmarque
      @Markdmarque Před 5 lety

      @littlebighorn not saying that but USA are getting ready to sell us substandard food ie Chlorine washed chicken and many other foods that doesn't get in through EU regs.
      I will always be European regardless of Brexit which probably won't happen when we have a new referendum without xenophobic lies and promised money for NHS. It will be an overwhelming remain

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      The EU hasn't given us anything. It gives us some of the money back we give to it but decides how we spend it, it helps itself to our fishing waters and creates laws that help German manufacturers and French farmers!!

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 Před 4 lety

    As ever, good points on both sides. However the reality is that Scotland is the much smaller partner in the UK, dependant on England. If it ever leaves, then I think it will become entirely reliant on the E.U. (headed by Germany then France) Any real gain for the Scottish? I doubt it.

  • @youngwolfskoll3118
    @youngwolfskoll3118 Před 5 lety

    If our ancestors that died from our independence could see us now they would be ashamed and if you voted remain you too should feel ashamed. Brave men gave their lives for something bigger and all we did was spit in their faces. At times like these im ashamed to be Scottish and be associated just by our nationality that we have let this shite happen

  • @wanderingmage355
    @wanderingmage355 Před 4 lety +4

    Free Scotland! Scotland stay strong!

    • @mark39ful
      @mark39ful Před 4 lety +1

      Wandering Mage Scotland would never be free if they leave the UK because the EU will take over you Muppets

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 4 lety

      Funny how people are keen for the Scots to have independence but not the UK from the EU 🤔 hypocrites much?

  • @davidnewman7014
    @davidnewman7014 Před 5 lety +13

    Brexit is the end of UK not eu

    • @Eo_Tunun
      @Eo_Tunun Před 5 lety +1

      That's the outcome I expect, too. That's why Cambridge Analytica were helping it.

    • @gethcreator751
      @gethcreator751 Před 5 lety +4

      Brexit is the start of a glorious future for our Kingdom

    • @davidnewman7014
      @davidnewman7014 Před 5 lety

      Cambridge analitica has nothing to do with ideologie it is taking profit no matter what conditions. Glorious future was maybe 100 years ago that's gone the world has changed u can/ not agree with it but reality will bite u back. Economy is the base country standing on and since 2016 it is gradually shrinking..

    • @JC-mv7rw
      @JC-mv7rw Před 5 lety +4

      Oh no another remainer and there project fear😂

    • @davidnewman7014
      @davidnewman7014 Před 5 lety

      @littlebighorn how can beginning start with breaking everything you stupid idiot u can believe as much as u want in saint boris but facts matters more- economy is suffering. Why US is such a power? Because of economy and it is not no 5 it is no 1 and there are no stupid decitions moving them to no 10 or wtever..and by the way law and justice matters too

  • @Elijah666
    @Elijah666 Před 4 lety +2

    Liked the Arabic tattoo 🤣

  • @robsol123
    @robsol123 Před 3 lety +2

    What do we want?? Scottish independence!!! Why???? To control our own country!!! Now let’s re-join the EU 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌

    • @robsol123
      @robsol123 Před 3 lety +1

      @boab boab 😂😂😂😂😂 what a pisser - all countries in the EU don’t have to follow EU regulations and pay for membership of the EU 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a bellend 😂😂😂😂👌👌👌 advance Britannia!!! XXXXX 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Gemarica
    @Gemarica Před 5 lety +8

    More proof that more tattooes mean less brains.

    • @BatTaz19
      @BatTaz19 Před 5 lety +2

      More proof that you're probably the life & soul of every party.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 Před 5 lety +1

      More proof that people with tatoos have more balls

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety

      In what way do I have 'less brains'? Is it simply because I differ in opinion to you? It's quite sad that you can't have a proper discussion about things. Instead of spouting irrelevant nonsense to mask your lack of intelligence.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 Před 5 lety

      @@petercampbell8987 you must be one of those tattoed up to the eyeball thugs farage talks about 😂

    • @petercampbell8987
      @petercampbell8987 Před 5 lety

      Tattoos on my arm is not exactly 'up to my eyeballs'. Name something I've done to make me a thug.I'll wait...

  • @macwilko
    @macwilko Před 5 lety +3

    Scotland is sort of interesting, as an English man, I hope they get their independence. Ultimately the English would benefit from the divorce, we’d no longer be sponsoring their education system at our expense for example. Scotland is like a bully in a relationship, it just wants to extract the most and give the least. The UK has always been a contributor to the EU budget, and England is by far the biggest share of the UK GDP. I wish Scotland good luck on their independence, but the reality is you’ll be poorer and we’ll benefit.

    • @benedictcase4290
      @benedictcase4290 Před 5 lety +2

      Jesus you are stupid

    • @ScottishRoss27
      @ScottishRoss27 Před 5 lety +1

      Education is devolved for example didnt the bbc tell you matthew? so youd no longer be sponsoring something which you dont sponsor at moment

    • @macwilko
      @macwilko Před 5 lety +1

      ScottishRoss oh mate, don’t you realise the Scottish budget is subsidised by the UK tax payer?
      Scotland has 8.2% of the UK's population but absorbed 9.3% of the UK's total state spending while its share of tax raised across the UK stood at 7.8%.

    • @macwilko
      @macwilko Před 5 lety +1

      Benedict Case no need to bring Jesus in this, how about you develop your argument rather than reducing it to insults ey?

    • @macwilko
      @macwilko Před 5 lety +1

      ScottishRoss to put it in perspective, without the UK subsidy, you’ll need to cut government spending by about 15%. That 15% we (England) can put back in our education system. Thankyou for your independence, I’ll be rooting for you guys.

  • @saddoncarrs6963
    @saddoncarrs6963 Před 5 lety

    The queen’s 25th, 50th and 60th coronation anniversaries were celebrated with public holidays, street parties across England and flags flying from every lamppost. The year 2007 saw the 300th anniversary of the union of England and Scotland - and this occasion received barely a mention in the British media, illustrating that we are not in a celebrated union - more a marriage of convenience. The Scots have stuck with the union for over 300 years because of the economic benefits it offers. They take full advantage of the Westminster obsession with control (Take back Control etc) which has resulted in benefits such as the Barnett Formula. If the EU could top those benefits, come up with a better deal, the Scots could well exercise their right to self determination, and opt for an affiliation with Brussels rather then London.

    • @saddoncarrs6963
      @saddoncarrs6963 Před 5 lety

      @@robinmcewen3286 You're correct in your comments regarding the coronation celebrations - I should have said "across the UK". However, I see no problem in having different governments (whether competing or not) on an island where that island consists of three different nations. The point I'm trying to make is that Scotland IS a nation (not a region like East Anglia or The Midlands) which allows it to use its right to self determination to extract benefits from Westminster in a way that, say, the north of England cannot. Scotland can come and go from any union as it pleases - the Scottish people will decide if and when that happens. Westminster is creaking right now and in danger of presiding over the break up of the UK - if that happens then Brussels may come into play. You say the Scots are not Europeans - maybe you're right, but who's to say that in the future they won't want to become Europeans.

    • @saddoncarrs6963
      @saddoncarrs6963 Před 5 lety

      @@robinmcewen3286 The Scots voted to stay in the UK in 2014, then voted to stay in the EU in 2016. They like both institutions because of the economic benefits. Now, against their will, it looks like they are being put in the position of having to choose one or the other. The UK is their biggest trading partner, the EU is the bigger market. The UK would offer the easier transition, the EU arguably more potential for the future. It's a tough call, and the SNP are right to look for an indyref2 so that the Scottish people can decide which way to go - Brussels, London or neither.
      I don't share your despondency when it comes to the EU. For sure, the EU has its problems - corruption, unaccountability, financial difficulties, an unpopular immigration policy, the rise of populist movements - the list goes on. But it is not beyond the wit of man to resolve these problems. The EU could also be looked on as a family of nations which have not been at war with each other for 74 years (something of a record), where people are getting on with their lives, trading freely with each other, moving around freely, using largely the same currency and so on. Yes, the EU ain't perfect (not by a long shot) but their present system is far, far better than returning to a divisive past when the odd street riot and over-leveraged banks were the least of Europe's problems. I'd say it is more probable that the EU will outlast the UK.

  • @Kehua800
    @Kehua800 Před 4 lety +1

    UK lied to Scotland, the question is no longer are you for Scottish independence that question is long over, the question is are you for democracy - if so then Scottish independence is now the only way

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 Před 4 lety

      Exactly, 5 million Scots up against 70 million English. How does this government represent democracy when it ignores two whole countries. The union is finished.

    • @emmanuelmedeiros7
      @emmanuelmedeiros7 Před 4 lety +1

      @@hiddenknowledge2012 That's why democracy is the tyranny of the majority. In an island with 9 rapists and 1 woman, democracy commands the rape. I am an anarcho-capitalist/propertarian from Brazil, and I support Brexit and Scotland independence, and, after Scotland independence, I support independence for the Shetland Islands and the Orkneys. The European Union is not an union for free-market, it is an union that puts out a lot of regulatory legislation, which the countries have to agree, regardless of the will of the individuals. Brexit and Scotland independence are movements I can stand for, because they are autonomists in essence.