Overpriced hockey stick! Stop overpaying - What is the BEST stick for beginners
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I was a short hunched over center, so I used a 5 lie very short stick. I needed to dangle more than anything. For the young guys, don’t worry about using a long stick if the short stick feels better. I was never going to blast a shot from the blue line and score, for me it was all about puck control and seeing the ice. Enjoy the game.
Can't dangle with a short stick
Please do a video on Roller Hockey skates and sticks. I would love to see more content on Roller Hockey subjects.
Totally agree with what you said. I always played with 85 flex sticks before and tried 65 flex this year. I now know anything above 70 flex is way too stiff for me. The only reason I got the 65 flex is because it was on sale and inexpensive so tried it out just for fun.
I’ve done the reverse, I keep moving up in flex and I’m now at 95
I think the "general guide" of your weight divided in half to determine flex is fairly poor ... especially for beer leaguers who may on the higher end of BMI. If we're talking "athletes" it may work better. But, flex (in my experience) has more to do with upper body strength and leverage than it does with total body weight. I've seen overweight guys at 240 using 110 flex sticks that they cannot possibly bend. They'd have trouble with an 85 flex because, while they have weight, they do not have strength.
100%. I used to follow that way too religiously. I wouldn't use less than a 100 flex (I was always 240+). Now I'm a lot older and a bit heavier (270). What do I use? My 2 primary sticks are actually a 75 flex and a 100 flex. The only reason I use that 100 flex is because it was discontinued and I really like the feel of it. I decided to go the opposite way and bought the warrior 75 flex, just because it occurred to me....I didn't have 15 years of coaching to teach me the proper shot technique, and don't spend hours in the gym every week building the muscle to really use the full flex.
I had to laugh when he said that. I'm 5'7 122 pounds and I use an 85 flex stick. I also don't cut anything off my sticks so I use a very long stick. I just buy them right off the rack, tape them up (I also have a very odd tape job) and they're ready to hit the ice and light up some tendys
@@chrismac5560 I'm 15, 150 pounds, 5'10 and use a 75 flex
So for me generally the half of my weight is my flex goes with me.
@@chrismac5560 This. The lightest I’ve ever weighed in college was like 175 at 6’1” and I could absolutely crank shots with an 85 flex and break a few here and there. Anything below 75 would snap very quick. Had teammates that weighed like 130-140 that could do the same with an 85 flex no problem. Gradually moved up to a 102 flex as I got older and stronger.
Really interesting, thanks.
Subbed and liked! These videos are great and the quality keeps just getting better 🥳
I agree with everything you’ve said. I also think that this is a great topic that is not addressed in the online hockey world. Like the skate segment using top spec sticks isn’t really necessary nor even an advantage for 90% of those of us playing the game. Theses are tools for professionals and what we can purchase in hockey shops bear little resemblance to what pro players are using. We can choose between high, low and medium kick points. An NHL player specifies exactly how his stick is constructed and precisely where the kick point is. Every detail is unique to the player. I myself enjoy quality. With sticks I’ve done a lot of research. Warrior and I believe other manufacturers produce slightly lower spec sticks that are designated, “pro”. Theses initially were created as a less expensive option for minor league and college teams. They are very similar to the top spec sticks but are a bit more robust. Another advantage is they often go on sale. As a recreational player I enjoy a good stick but also a good price. I’m much older now and I play for fun. I’ve dropped down from 110 flex to 65 flex. I don’t need a big shot anymore. I love the control and touch of a softer stick. I’ve been playing for a long time so I’ve used many blade patterns. I know what I like. Unfortunately when it comes to consumer sticks the lie comes with the blade pattern. That being said blade patterns are fairly simple and you can usually find something that is a good fit. Length is very important and a trick I’ve used in the past is to play with the stick right out of the box then cut it little by little until you
Hit the sweet spot. There’s a reason that every pro equipment room, even when a team is on the road, a mitre saw will be in plain view. It has one use and only one use. Chris I doubt gloves will be part of this series so I’ll put my two cents in here. I have used top spec consumer gloves and enjoyed them but I was gifted a pair of pro spec Warrior Covert gloves from the New Jersey Devils equipment room. They were team stock and not customized in any way. I have never felt a glove so beautiful before. In my opinion spend your money on the best protective gear you can afford. This is somewhere you really can notice the difference.
Thank you for the video it help me alot since I'm a goalie but on the market for a player stick and I didn't know what to watch for. Also a lot of your points can apply for buying a goalie stick
Do you do reviews/buying guides for goalie skates? I have a young guy who wants to be a goalie. Love the info you provide learned alot from your videos
Just watched a video from you in 2011, man has the production value come a long way.
For the past few years, since the nexus 2N line came out, I’ve always purchased the previous years top of line stick as soon as the new line came out at half the price. I’ve used the Nexus 1N, Supreme 1S Pro, Jetspeed FT2, and this year is the first time I purchased the current years top stick, Tommy really sold me on the Trigger 6 Pro.
Thanks for the information on what types of sticks to use, and all your other videos, they are very helpful. I am a year into hockey and I’ve just started to play in a beer league in defense, and I am looking for a new stick to buy. I am looking at the new ccm tacks range, and on the website I’m looking at the as-v is the same price due to the sale as the as-540. I would normally go for the entry level stick but this has only a flex of 75, whereas the As-v has a flex of 70 which is what I need. I know that this stick is normally for a higher level player but as it’s the same price would you recommend I get that one or stay with the entry level stick? Thanks very much for the help 😊
Agreed. I spend a lot on my hockey gear, always trying different things out.
I still personally stick with top of the line sticks (have a Bauer Vapor FlyLite, and CCM Ribcor Trigger 4 Pro, just broke my JetSpeed FT4 pro which I did like as well)
Anyhow, I always buy top of the line but just the previous year’s model. You don’t notice a ton in performance from the middle end but I think the pop of the top end sticks and that weight difference does feel nice if you can afford it. Buying the previous year model helps a lot though.
Other than the weight though, not a ton of difference elsewhere. As mentioned the kick-point/curve are what you need to test out first before you settle on what you want.
Always loved the p88 personally, does everything so well and I don’t have any issue elevating shots but have also come to enjoy the p28 for the toe drag ability, issue can be it’s too easy to rip it over the net, gotta keep follow through down.
I always buy the top end gears from two years ago, I mean why not? A lot of top end stuff are on sale now. I paid low price for past year top end stuff, but they are still way better than the new mid range stuff. I can find top end stick that is 60% off. I only paid 160 ( Canadian dollars) for a pair of Bauer 2X pro skates that on clearance in the store, the new hyperlite is not that much better than 2X pro, but it is $1000 more than I paid. Buy smart unless you have unlimited money.
I paid $130 for Alpha Dx SL stick and $150 for true AX9. The Alpha DX feels better than the True, however for the price I wouldn’t complain any lol
I've never used a top end stick, usually prefer to go with mid to low grade. I'm currently using Nexus 2N and 3N sticks, having switched over from True XC series. I completely agree with the lie and curve pattern, however one thing to point out is that the lie between sticks is not always consistent so you will have to ensure they are the same. For curve I use a P28, I skate more hunched over so I prefer a low lie and shorter stick. Even though I weigh around 215 lbs, I find that I like the 77 flex sticks (I almost never take a slapshot and prefer the whippy sticks for wrist shots).
Sweet! I want to buy a hockey stick. Getting back into the sport after 20 years... Great timing Chris. Thx!
The great thing about buying sticks here in Germany is that most shops only carry last year‘s stock (or older). Of course, same goes for almost all gear. Many shops in my area are still selling Reebok equipment as new.
Hard to play another curve when you have been using the P106 from Bauer since 13 years old. I have to get em second hand or some old stock. The most I’ve ever paid for a stick was $180 and that was the vapor XXX stick. By far the best twig I played with. Lasted me a whole two years.
Amen to everything in this video. It took me years to convince myself. I didn't need a 100 flex stick anymore I dropped 85 and everything got better. Now to try something other than the p88 that I've been using for the last 20 years. I tried a 92 a couple years ago but I wasn't in love with it. Maybe I'll try the 28 next. Keep up the great work. Thanks!
I recently switched from the P88 to the crosby curve and i love it. TookBout a month to get used to it but its awesome!
@@AlwaysYellFore I’m the same except i can’t seem to get used to the Crosby curve do you have any tips?
How long has it been? Maybe just more time and practice, took me about a month playing 3x a week.
@@AlwaysYellFore I play quadrant hockey and I’m only 15, I’ve been playing for 10+ years and I was having ice times with it 5-7 times a week even, including games.I just couldn’t get used to the way the puck rolled off the stick
@@AlwaysYellFore it’s been about 11 ice times using it so you might be rihht
Love going to my local hockey store and going straight to the clearance sticks. Just picked up a $200 Warrior QRE for $96. I play recreationally, so I don’t need the newest top of the line gear, but it’s nice to have something better then entry level
Something I learned from tournament fishing. I can catch fish with a $600+ rod. I can catch most of the same fish with a $100 rod. So why buy a $600+ rod? Because it's just more fun to use. I'm a low level beer leaguer. I use Nexus 8000 skates (1 step below top tier when I bought them) and got a Nexus Geo stick for my birthday. Am I good enough for that? No. But it's more fun to use top tier stuff. The lighter weight makes it more comfortable.
@@Milehighsnake98 This is so fucking exactly what I'm thinking, and applies even more to me since I shoot like a lot usually around 200 pucks a day.
Though I play single A.
@@AlanenJ Ultimately most of us are going to wind up just beer leaguers anyways. When you're playing to the highest ability you can to be competitive, ie. trying to make a junior team or college, then the best gear is going to help perform the best. For the rest of us? If you can afford it and you enjoy it more, use it. Doesn't matter if it's a $50 stick, $100 stick, $200 stick or $300+, or a $150 pair of skates or a $1100 pair. If you can afford it and want to use them, do it.
@@Milehighsnake98 That is about the best you can say it, I'm 15, but can afford it.
My dad pays the "normal level price" so normal would be like a 120€ stick and I pay the rest if I want somerthing better.
You are the BEST!
I’ve broken 2 70 flex jetspeed ft3 pros p28 and am trying p90tm jetspeed teams that are 85 flex and have definitely noticed that the lower flex works better for me
Can't wait for the Bauer family range stick family video! Would rather see a CCM family stick video though.
Hello Chris I am looking to buy the ccm ribcor 76k skates but I really want to buy the 80k but there expensive what do I buy thanks
Team sticks are my absolute favorite! You're essentially getting the tech from the previous generations top-tier stick in a lower-end carbon fiber/fiberglass composite materials for half the price. I personally only buy midrange sticks and gear! I'm an average beer league player and an above average skater. Most of all my gear is Jetspeed FT4 (non-pro) or FT485. I have some Bauer Supreme 3S elbow pads as well as a Bauer RE-AKT 150 helmet. My current sticks are the CCM Ribcor Team Grip in a 75Flex/P88 as well as a Warrior Covert QRE 30 stick in a 65Flex/W03/P92. I'm 5'10" and 155lbs on a good day. PS thanks Alexa!
Would be nice to get a similar video of protective gear.
I want the jersey, but can't see the link. where can I buy them.
Clearance and close out is where it's at. I'll still get smoked by some old-timer in his Cooper bucket and Victoriaville wooden stick.
I've tried a lot of different sticks in different kick points, curves, lies, and flexes. Currently my favorite curve is P92M, and my favourite kick point would be low.
I tried P28 and can't shoot with it without the puck going way too high lol. I've also tried P88, which is fine, but it takes a bit more effort to raise the puck. I've also tried P90TM, and it was good, but I prefer P92 over it. I've also tried the OG Tavares curve (145-0), and that was good from what I remember. I've also used P38. I wasn't a fan of the square toe, but for shooting it was fine.
For all the curves I've tried, my favourite to least favourite (in order) are P92M, P92, P90TM/Benn, OG Tavares, P28, and P38.
For all the stick lines, my favourite to least favourite in order are Alpha, Ribcor, Vapor, Super Tacks, Covert, JetSpeed, AX, Supreme, and Catalyst.
I train with a cheaper stick and play with top spec. The weight difference is huge in my opinion. The heavy weight allows me to transition quicker when I uses a lighter stick. Also my forearms don’t fatigue during play.
Maybe a potential video idea here maybe since people dont want to buy a 300, 200 or 100 dollar hockey stick but still want the 2s or ultrasonic or hyperlite, maybe make a video on how well refurbished sticks do against an expensive hockey stick and and general feel and weight?
if your worried about curves get a p90t and then your using 2 curves p92 and 28 and your used to 2 curves
A very cheap stick that is bauer or ccm are all black, really recommend for a cheap stick. It is a bauer or ccm stick without the stickers
I've went for older [but unused] sticks in the last 4 purchases, cant be chewed paying out of the nose for the most up to date.
also, bought in multiples due tot he deals i got.
last purchases have been;
- Nexus 2N Pro , bought 2 in 2021 1 used in training - £150
- CCM U+ Pro [2010], bought 3 in october 2018 all pro stock unused £100
- CCM tacks [2014], bought 2 in april 2018 - £150
- Bauer Total One NXG [2012] , bought 2 in March 2016 - £120
9 Sticks in 10 years, £520
Buying 2 brand new top end sticks these days [puckstop CCM Ribcor trigger 6 pro] £522
B N 3N is the same as geo for less money, but hard to find.
Ive been using a ccm jetspeed pro2 which Ive tried the newer model jetspeed sticks and I don't feel much of a difference and this stick I've been using was a last second buy bc I had just broken 2 sticks and needed one and I have a trigger 6 and ngl I hate it I feel like I can't get as much power as I normally could as with the jetspeed and these 2 are the same curve, same flex, same length, same everything, except for model rn I don't see the reason of buying newer sticks especially when you are young like 10-12 range, like I'm going to an nice odr close to my house and I see all these kids using hyperlites and ft4 pros or trigger 6 pros when they are out growing them in less than a year, there is no point. And I've used my jetspeed for about 2 years and it's just now starting to break, and I've had my trigger 6 for maybe a month and a half and it's breaking its not a pro model but still it should break in this much time
Great advice, 99% of us don't need and won't be able to get any performance advantage from top spec stick. top/mid spec from last year or even few years ago works great. Save your money for a few extra after game beverages!
So many people use 100+ flex in their sticks. You would think they were trying to pole vault instead of shooting a puck.
Still missing the old Paul Coffee patern. Sherwood 77.
Do you know when the new nexus will come out
Microphone is either too close or such a high quality piece that I can hear every “K” sound.
When I buy sticks it’s usually get what you paid for. The cheaper ones don’t last as long as the higher prices ones. And there is brands I stay clear away from cause they just don’t last
I was thinking about buying an as3 pro used saving me £90
What about durability? A hockey store employee once told me, ‘The higher end sticks tend to be more durable, and are less likely to “whip out” over time’. I’ve had sticks whip out on me, but I’ve never bought a top of the line stick. Does anyone have experience with this, as far as, having a lower end stick and a higher end stick over the course of a season or two? Have you noticed the lower end stick “whipping out” before the higher end stick?
The weight makes a big difference to me because I like to use one hand a lot.
What is the best overall ccm stick right now?
I picked up a warrior alpha dx a while back, really good stick for a good price $150 CAD
@@ChrisSzulwach I like to be able to shoot with a little shot power and a little quick releases
Yeah, i bought myself a Px, just for ball hockey lol.. at the time i wanted the lighter stick, so i went blindly in to purchase, rang it up, boy i almost blew my own mind, 418$ after tax.. just for ball hock, lol
I buy those on sale, I use heavy stick
Keep up the great work. Have you thought of adding a goalie expert
And he said the geo is better out of the ones
Flylite is same as hyperlite for less.
most players use wrong stick Adam Oates quote......75 flex unless your a beast, Lie 6 and a bit shorter, and as straight a blade as you can...IMHO
okay, let me start by saying I haven't played in 20 years...but composite sticks weren't available then. Mostly aluminum shafts with replacement wooden blades, and they were inexpensive and worked fine. Explain why any recreational player would spend hundreds of dollars on a stick that may break instantly? Mario Lemieux used all wooden Kohos. Spending $300 on a stick wont make you Mario
i think all beginners should just get the lowest price point of ccm bauer or warrior, in whatever it is they are buying, why spend alot of money on a stick or on skates, that you dont even know if you like, cause you dont know what you are looking for
Just buy the top specs that are 2 years old. $300 twigs for $100.
I'm an advanced player and just buy pro stock sticks
You’re way off on the claim that your weight dictates the flex of the stick that you use I’m 6 foot two 250 pounds if I use the stick that was roughly 125 flex I wouldn’t be able to shoot
I use an 85 flex and have absolutely no issues or problems with it
where is your basket ball?
He plays ice hockey, not basketball.
@@nathanielfitch5451 how can it be? He should play basketball