This All-New Ryzen 8840U X86 Board Is Fast & We Added An OCuLink GPU! Hands-On
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- In this video we take look at new AMD Ryzen 7 8840U Powered SBC known as the ASRock 8840U 4X4. This has enough power to run AAA PC games like Cyberpunk, Fortnite, Helldivers 2 and more on the Radeon 780M gpu but we can also ad an OCuLink GPU like the GPD G1 Radeon RX 7600M XT! With 8 Zen 4 cores this little board packs a punch!
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It runs Cyberpunk better than my whole pc 💀 bro
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Looks like the guts from a mini pc sold as a standalone board. I could definitely see using it in a creative tech project. Maybe also the GPU assuming there's a graceful way to route power to everything.
yeah looks like the mini pc version is "ASRock Industrial 4X4 BOX-8840U". Found it on newegg, release date 5/10/2024
Since I use Linux as main OS for everything, always want to see one of these mini PC's run Linux and play games.
As you can see you dont get many likes. Alot of third world font even know Linux exist. Until we have standalone apps on linux that dont need internet to download from the repo. No usefulness of Linux. Id rather wait for Harmony OS.
@@univera1111 What are you on about?, windows apps work on my Linux OS easily right out of the box they install like a normal windows app and run like one also. Also there are multiple native photo editing and video editing apps, games run without any issues via steam, Heroic launcher and Lutris launcher. Also a lot of default apps come pre-installed on many common distros that are very useful.. mine pretty much IS windows, it even has a similar UI layout and start menu layout and file manager layout.
@@univera1111 linux is actually quite popular in India, if you look at the data.
@@univera1111 most popular distros come with office apps by default, which is all anyone doing a fresh install would want, just like on windows so don't get this point
@@univera1111Been using linux for 6 years now, I'm 19 lol. Never felt like I was missing out on anything although yes sometimes troubleshooting things is hectic and when I'm doing something out of the box and need old windows apps which sometimes don't run well on my pc (most people will never have the need for such stuff) but apart from that I have everything I need available to me. Linux has grown quite alot. People still think it's tough to use so that will take time. Although steam deck did make it a little more mainstream.
Given that the link is to Asrock Industrial, I'm going to assume there's no easy path to ownership. At least, not as an individual hobbyist.
If you follow the link, at the bottom there's another link to the actual resellers. They kinda do the raspberry pi thing where they just host the specs and the reseller links.
At the bottom of the reseller links page is a link directly to newegg (icky).
The price hurts though- 600 bucks for barebones. Adding storage, ram, power supply brings the total to almost 800. Plus the cost of windows- bringing the total to almost a thousand all said and done.
And i doubt the price would be pocket friendly
@@rkadi6540 Probably not. I'm willing to bet that it'll be cheaper and easier buying a similar specced micro pc and just taking it out of its shell.
Might be able to buy the mini PC version from Newegg. Seems to be launching over there tomorrow. Listed for 600USD.
Yeah, if he’s going to make a video about products like these, he should at least be more informative on how to get them.
no matter how good an arm board may be, sometimes I just need to run x86 apps
This is so tiny yet super powerful and easily extendable . I'm really excited for what future handhelds and phone gpus can do
There is one thing I would like to point out.
The interface of the connector on the backside of the motherboard is ESPI instead of SATA.
It just happens to have same type of connector as the SATA connector they usually have on different 4X4 board.
I love AMD has done for the APU space. I am super excited for next GEN. Can’t wait to see your videos on it to
This is my life: 3:20 . You captured it perfectly...
I could imagine it be mounted in a 3½" drive bay in an old retro style case together with a another standard motherboard to have a great combi use system
i think this may be the smallest SBC i've seen so far that can run AAA games with ease! so many things you can build with this thing :)
Exactly. You could do SO MUCH with this. This might by the perfect for a Virtual Pinball Table I'm planning, especially with the OcUlink
no sbc requires ram sticks, this is a minipc without a case
so what lol
@@7Wounds why would you need a 500+ USD CPU for a pinball
@@Arxgxmi you wouldn't I wasn't aware of the price at the time. This is the 1st time I've seen Oculink and it was an exciting prospect if you wanna do 4k tables etc.
The flexibility of X86 is just great. You can run pretty much any distro and any software.
Great candidate for a 3d printed case. Also i noticed that you were cpu bound with the Egpu which is pretty concerning for a moderately powerful card
I like these smaller computers for using in the full size arcade builds but it does drive the price up a bit!
Great video. As usual. MX Linux and Manjaro would be cool. Maybe a run on an LLM.
Amazing what a difference a dedicated GPU makes to gaming.
You may be able to get that thing to boot using USB power if you change the tdp bios setting to "quiet mode".
Great content! Can you run this using the low profile RTX 4060 card.
I think that would be great to see such a small board using a RTX graphics card.
i saw ppl running oculink from m.2 with 4080 for sure this will support too
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If there was a way to get better cooler on there that would help as you could keep the chip boosting to 50w full time, even something like NH-L9 would be enough to hold that power level. Or just pair this with something like the 4060 SFF in a small case and it would be a champ.
I bet that would be a crazy powerful mini arcade machine
I like your gaming choices.
@ETA PRIME, can you do a video that showcases the difference between usb 4 and oculink with egpus? I have a Legion Go and a Onexgpu and I was curious about the real world difference between the fps difference between oculink and usb 4/thunderbolt 3/4.
Love to see Bazzite run on it. :)
Or nobaraos steam deck edition
You should totally make a custom SFF build with this. Also, how much RAM can be allocated to the 780M? More than 8GBs?
Ooh, would be sick for some sort of handheld project monstrosity
The future has arrived at last. What a time to be alive.
Eh, the future was the mid 80s, then again in 2008. Its just repeating at this point.
Get these computers down to $350 and im in.
I wonder how different his looks to other mini Pc's with their cases removed. I have a eg01h4 egpu case, and a PC like this would easily fit inside the case with my 4090, making an epic 9 litre 4090 PC all contained in the egpu case. You wouldn't need to run the oculink cable outside of it, but would need to sort any power button/usb/hdmi access. Is tempting though. With PC's like this, I believe it would now start to make sense to ship GPU's with the CPU etc built onto the GPU, and have different options/ram slots etc or have CPU modules or something to allow variations
*@ETA PRIME* If you have a RTX dual fan GPU. Like a 4070 TI Super. It'd be nice to see a tiny build (like the single fan 4060 tiny builds you've done). Whether it be in a super small sff case or a mini workstation style case. Backpack size 4070 build
This would be so cool with Bazite as a set top box connected to a tv.
thats a really cool board. The cpu supports ecc does its mean the board does too?
That oculink board is most likely 32gbps performance based on the parts Im looking at on Amazon. Only one amazon ad said 64gbps but I dont know if thats fake, because its the same model/part number as all of these other red colored oculink nvme m.2 adapters on Amazon. I ordered the part that claims its 64gbps and I'll test it when it gets delivered.
"Can change the TDP across the board" -- nice pun there ;)
That M.2 adapter looks like a PCI-E 3.0 adapter, this board + the new NUC 14 both deliver pci-e 4.0 via the 2242 M.2 port! I wish most of them would come with pci-e 5.0 by now...
The problem is licensing, it's too expensive still especially when PCIe 4.0 is relatively new for board makers.
It's not licensing. The integrated graphics versions of the Ryzen only support PCIe 4.0 for external I/O unfortunately. Hopefully that changes with Zen5.
@@ReflexVE You are correct, 20x 4.0 lanes in the 8xxx mobile systems.
Meteor Lake H-cpus have 8x 5.0 support, U-models 20x 4.0.
Both Intel and Amds latests stuff...the confusion at times...
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Hopefully, "fingers crossed" ,that by the time 9th gen ryzen mobile apus come out, pcie 5.0 x4 nvme slots will trickle down to these smaller boards, since there already available on hedt mobos and 5.0x4 ssds already exist... that should kill 90% if the bandwidth issues with occulink or nvme adapters.
This could be a amazing Unraid NAS using external HDD enclosures.
I would be interested in Linux. I usually use Fedora, but Manjaro might give a fairer shake if you wait for Mesa 24.1 to come out first.
would you make a handheld for future project with the board?
I would love to see linux running on it. Also, I would love to know the power consumption on balanced mode.
Please do one with Linux. Points of interest would be, which distros supports the hardware out of the box, performance of different base distros - debian/ubuntu base, arch based, fedora basedand opensuset umbleweed :D
I'd want to see Linux, but I would also like to know if this would be a good use for a moderate NAS/Media center situation with hardware transcoding and performance.
thanks. interesting little thing
i wonder if it runs nobara
It would great to see this running under Linux, with and without the GPU.
put proxmox on it and report idle power. Interested at how this would perform as a witness node.
The term SBC is supposed to mean that it isn't a motherboard you have to plug stuff into. Usually you get away with having to fit in a harddrive or SSD, but I think having to plug in memory modules breaks the definition.
How thick is it including the fan? I'm looking for something to fit in slimmer enclosure than your average mini PC, but I have footprint to spare.
Amazing 😍
I might just buy this setup for lower power consumption.
Emulation test please
ChimeraOS gaming test please 😁🥺
mr Eta. plz make DIY handhel gaming PC with this board 😁😁
"WTF is this crazy SBC?"
It was my first thought seeing the thumbnail of this video.
Install Arch Linux and try emulation on Linux and Windows. SteamOS too. Good video.
Note, the ethernet ports are 1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN, not dual 2.5.
You should try Garuda Gaming Linux on this one. Better than Manjaro for gaming in my opinion. At least on PC.
Nice SBC and review. But realtek NICs is a major let down.
Which mini pc/ like nuke pc can emulate ps2 and wii u in 4k 60fps?☺️
1:11 You said it has 2 slots, but what about that 3rd connection? Am I missing something?
I wish there would be any possibility to put this PC into a fanless case. 42W is not hard to cool without any fans.
The linked specifications page clearly states
1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN
So NOT dual 2.5GbE
I wish there was some new Oculink with PCIeX x8-x16, so we could use these small systems and 100% of external GPU power
Then it wouldn't be oculink
Since oculink is not hotswapable, why not use m.2 to pcie directly for this particular form factor?
Praying for an Steam machine 2
Dang, I bet this is like unobtainium. Is there a mini PC speced like this? Minisforum doesn't seem to have a 8840U yet. Their tablet is but I don't really want to pay for the screen. I guess in a month Minishforum would have one anyway.
EDIT: If you search 4X4-8840U it looks like newegg has a mini PC by asrock specked exactly the same. I don't think it's the exact same board, the layout is mirrored, which could be the pictures are reversed. This board doesn't have a audio jack though where the minPC does. $600 though, not cheap.
The most important metric is "how much does it cost?"
Always good to see how Linux runs... Linux Mint would be my choice.
It's cool, but why wouldn't you just grab the Minisforum with Oculink and a 7840hs (considerably faster) for $400 barebones?
Yes, we want some Linux stuff!
Someone please make a silent passive mod for it. Need a silent desktop daily audiophile setup and option to crank it up for gaming with oculink.
Install a Linux front end for an arcade. Seems like that would be the use case. No?
Ubuntu Studio 24.04 LTS😎
Ubuntu 24.04LTS just came out. New kernel! It seems a bit zippier overall.
This chip performs like the z1 extreme in my ally maybe a lil better . Id say these ryzen 8 series is amd’s awnser to getting a serious leg up on nvidia and intel. I just hope they stop thinking in a box and start using the leverage they have now to pursued the consumer. And make the 780m grapchics a standard thing. For their low end and lets say just skip the whole low end for apu’s and high range offer a ryzen 7 and 9 apu. And then the big hitters without igpu as in tge x versions and x3d If they give very capable apu’s on 200 and 300 and like 400-450 dollar/euro
On the am5 platform. I see them really turning the table
yeah linux.. nice board but impossible to get like most asrock industrial stuff. if it were available it would be expensive
Its available on Newegg for $600 in a barebones kit.
@@bingo475 yeah, eu here. Altho 600 doesnt sound too bad, it would probably be 800euros :)
It appears newegg sells this exact one in a box that's barebones rather than just being a board for $600.
Powerful than my pc
it would be interesting to see an rtx 4090 docked to it to see how hard it gets bottlenecked :D
HOW MUCH?
5:11 Ровно то же самое умел Samsung s9+ в своё время.
I don't think the ethernet is dual 2.5 (seems to be 1x2.5 & 1x gigabit - both realtek)
seeing the G1 used always gets me excited for Minisforum's HX200G...
when does it come out i want to buy one
Where can I buy that maneki neko that shows up at 3:06 ?
SteamOS on this next please!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Linux please with Mint or Ubuntu. With Oculink to see what kind of result you get.
Did you happen to mention the Price ?
Is it the stx formfactor?
Ich glaube der Fehler bei der ganzen Geschichte mit der Performance liegt schlichtweg daran dass dein Fernsehen lediglich 60 Watt Output hat das hast du mal in einem Video irgendwann gesagt dass dein Fernsehen nur 60 Watt Output hat und deshalb kann die CPU und GPU nur auf 42 Watt hochtakten weil das restliche System ja auch noch Energie braucht um zu funktionieren sei es der RAM sei es die SSD was auch immer .......wäre nett wenn du nächste mal ein etwas stärkeres output-gerät nutzen würdest ich glaube da würde die Performance noch mal signifikant steigen.
Where
Do you buys this ??
Supports well A.I.?
CPU AND GPU celsius?
Waiting on the board that would fit in a psp shell.
Nice but ASRock should stop putting these things behind a purely industrial base. By ll means have pricing for larger volumes but also give a flat rate price upfront for 1.
Could you pls test this board using Pop OS linux by system76
They sell this on Newegg w/ the case for $599, it's still bare bones.
Ouch, that's pricey for barebones that Amazon is selling the Minisforum um780xtx with a 7840HS and Oculink for $400.
Once you go much beyond the size of the Rasberry Pi I don't quite get the point of not having a case.
This board is intended to build your own Minisforum, just make a case)) It seems that cpu doesn't have a npu
Npu?
@@wolffactor56 neural processing unit
@@neb_setabed thanks for following up. Debating about getting a mini pc for daily work stuff. My gaming computer is loud.
@@wolffactor56 well, you can just replace noisy fans in your pc and it will work fine for you, mini pcs are really noisy things
@@user-mq2ui7sn6e I am thinking its the power supply of my video card….gonna habe to see.
Didn't know mini computers were loud.
ECC support?
Love to see linux on it
How much does it cost?
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