Tying a Munter Mule Overhand (MMO)
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Marisol demonstrates how to tie a MMO that is ready (oriented/flipped towards the load) to be used as a component in many self rescue applications. To see the application of the MMO in rescue scenarios, check out the other videos on the SIET channel. Press pause when it's time to read the scrolling tips on the bottom of the screen.
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Great explanation. I've been taught this a few times, but I love the "turn the key" reference. I think that will help it stick. For those confused about the "loaded" side: Our group uses this to tie the middle of a static line to an anchor point for rappelling (teaching/instructional rappelling). We had student get his shirt stuck in his rappel device; we could untie the mule and lower him down rather than attempt a rescue while on the rock. So the "loaded side" is the side we rappel on (after tying the knot); the mule side is what we untie and lower if needed.
That was the best video by far that I've seen on the MMO. It was slowed down and every step was explained well.
The traditional way to tie off the Italian Hitch/Mezzo Barcaiolo/Halbmastwurfsicherung was with two half hitches and that still works well.
I recently stumbled on your website and tech tip vids. GREAT job! Thanks! I do have a question about this one.
At 0:51, Marisol says, "It is worth noting that if you tie your Munter from the brake strand . . . I'm going to have to flip the Munter back through the caribiner before I can lower."
Commentary: My trainers have consistently made the point that the load strand should be closer to the spine than the brake strand. In this video, the Munter is tied with the brake strand closer to the spine. My solution is to tie the Munter by pulling the brake strand around the load strand then clipping it through the carabiner.
Thanks for your consideration.
One thing that helps me remember for the munter is your turning the key with the same hand as the carabiner gate
Great video for tying the munter mule! I've been doing a totally different way, but I like your way better! I mostly use it as a contingency anchor when canyoneering with a group of noobs.
Hey there! I have two questions/concerns with your method; I was hoping you could clear these up for me. First, how exactly does one make the loop in the loaded strand, as it will be taught from the weight of the load? Second, having the only carabiner belaying my second up unlocked and gate open while loaded to push the rope back through it seems to me to have several possibilities for chatastrophe. Do you have an alternative/suggestion/clarification that makes this more bomb-proof? Thanks!
+Hyland Markle
Good question! And I think you're the second one to ask now. At 0:22, Marisol shows which strand is the "weighted strand." (the one with the Grigri attached) What she actually means is that the strand with the Grigri attached is the one THAT WILL BE weighted. Sorry for the miscommunication there. You'd almost never have a weighted strand and THEN tie the MMO; it's pretty much always tied off and then weighted. If the line is loaded when you want to tie an MMO, you'll first need to transfer the load onto a 'bridge.' We'll be making a how-to vid for the bridge this fall, stay tuned. I hope that helps!
Thus, the idea is to build the munter mule anchor to belay off of. I think I see now, thank you. A follow-up video would be great, thanks! :)
Question: How much tail is required on the non-weighted end of the rope? Does it matter?
SOrry, but your "method" works only if the load strand is in front and the carabiner gate is on the right. People usually don't notice that and then try to use your method and fail.
Great demo.
I don't know why you're stressing pulling from the loaded side...it works in simulation, but when there's a load on it, there's a load on it...can't do it...
+idrivebetsy
Thanks for the comment. Please see my response to Hyland and let me know if that answers your question.
Not a very useful method if you're trying to escape the system with a climber hanging from the rope, which is one of the main uses of the munter mule. That strand you make a loop in will be loaded.
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