First of all, your excellent playing made these cellos sing. I got my Forte3D about 1.5 years and I was able to got your blind sound tests all correct since mine and your Forte3D seem to carry similar characteristic resonance. I often play all my 3 cellos ( the other 2 are wooden ones) and I would like to add my experience regarding my exploration on string-selections. I was not too keen on Helicore set (especially on A and D), then switched to Jargar A and D (both regular and forte). I found the "reverb" effect still took away the core of the sound. Therefore, I then switched to synthetic strings (inherit from my wooden cello), Obligato set. However, the was some delayed sound-reaction when attacking the strings, but warmer and clearer. I am still trying to find a balance (or my playing too). I recently acquired a set of Kaplan and would give that set a try later. Thank you for sharing! Best!
Well... Even a carboard cello with low cost strings would sound good with such a great cellist playing it with a good bow 😂 This is really a great overall comparison to show with various demonstration, and without expressing any bias. For me ( a non-professional cello enthusiast) , the way the carbon fiber cello responds to frequencies seem quite different to me from your wooden gig one. The high notes are ringging out much than on wood (longer and louder, with a kind of metallic undertone), with the low notes, less so. Both sounded honorable and fine to me for great gigs purposes (of course can't match the fantastic Celli😙) I personnaly prefer the wood for various reasons (not only my name that obviously supports wood over 😅): as engineer background I also have worked with both materials (not anything related to musical instruments) and many properties attributed to carbon fiber material are actually better served with wood. I can understand though that carbon fiber and 3D print is a great option for outdoor playing, in extreme weather conditions like playing for long in the heat/sun or under rain (though hopefully no cellist have to face that regularly 😆) Besides the sound, it would be great if you also comment on the playability /confort when playing it, and also if the slightly changed shape has any impact on how to hold it? 😊 Thanks again for the wonderful comparison, it is so much more helpful than just claiming "wow this cello is great" without any realistic/relatable benchmark 😎👏👍
The carbon fiber cello had an interesting resonance to me, almost like a reverb effect. I thought it sounded great in the mid to high registers, but the wooden cello had a noticeably fuller sound in the low register.
🎉Very beautiful play. Thank you. Please suggest 3D to add a sound hole at side, like carbon fiber guitar has, so player can handheld the cello easily. Now it so round, hard to hold the cello with one hand when you try to pick it up and put it in a case or bag.
Great video! I've had my Forte3D cello for a little over a year now and love it! Great for outdoor gigs and teaching without fear of my younger students accidentally scratching it up. I get a lot of compliments on its tone and how much it projects. Definitely easier on the wallet compared to other carbon fibers, especially if it's not going to be your primary cello.
Forte3d is the new kid on the block and they sound great on CZcams vids at least. I'm not into the CF cello sound on the ones I tried, but this sounds good to my ears at least on a CZcams vid. The Forte3d sounds more powerful tho. I wanna know the make of the wooden one, since it sounds great for the price if in the same price range.?
Very surprised I picked the carbon fiber as sounding the best every time. The tone was crisp and clean. Beautiful variation in low to high notes. Great comparisions.
Carbon fiber cellos seem to have a built-in „reverb effect“, they are very resonant... Both cellos seem to me very weak, I do have a wooden (Mittenwald about 1850-60) and a carbon fiber cello (Luis and Clark), both are way better sounding (if your recording is accurate, what I assume)…
The wooden cello will last for many hundreds of years.. the carbon fiber however.. The binding resins decompose after 30 or 40 years and the cello WILL self-destruct. They are on borrowed time from day one
I went into this quite prejudiced in favor of the traditional wooden 'cello, but I was surprised to find that I could scarcely tell them apart. However, I find the sterile look of the carbon-fiber 'cello rather unappealing. They need to at least add a scroll to it! I am a retired symphony musician with most of my experience in contrabass, but also play violin and 'cello.
First of all, your excellent playing made these cellos sing. I got my Forte3D about 1.5 years and I was able to got your blind sound tests all correct since mine and your Forte3D seem to carry similar characteristic resonance. I often play all my 3 cellos ( the other 2 are wooden ones) and I would like to add my experience regarding my exploration on string-selections. I was not too keen on Helicore set (especially on A and D), then switched to Jargar A and D (both regular and forte). I found the "reverb" effect still took away the core of the sound. Therefore, I then switched to synthetic strings (inherit from my wooden cello), Obligato set. However, the was some delayed sound-reaction when attacking the strings, but warmer and clearer. I am still trying to find a balance (or my playing too). I recently acquired a set of Kaplan and would give that set a try later. Thank you for sharing! Best!
Well... Even a carboard cello with low cost strings would sound good with such a great cellist playing it with a good bow 😂
This is really a great overall comparison to show with various demonstration, and without expressing any bias.
For me ( a non-professional cello enthusiast) , the way the carbon fiber cello responds to frequencies seem quite different to me from your wooden gig one. The high notes are ringging out much than on wood (longer and louder, with a kind of metallic undertone), with the low notes, less so. Both sounded honorable and fine to me for great gigs purposes (of course can't match the fantastic Celli😙)
I personnaly prefer the wood for various reasons (not only my name that obviously supports wood over 😅): as engineer background I also have worked with both materials (not anything related to musical instruments) and many properties attributed to carbon fiber material are actually better served with wood.
I can understand though that carbon fiber and 3D print is a great option for outdoor playing, in extreme weather conditions like playing for long in the heat/sun or under rain (though hopefully no cellist have to face that regularly 😆)
Besides the sound, it would be great if you also comment on the playability /confort when playing it, and also if the slightly changed shape has any impact on how to hold it? 😊
Thanks again for the wonderful comparison, it is so much more helpful than just claiming "wow this cello is great" without any realistic/relatable benchmark 😎👏👍
The forte 3d cello sounds great!!
The carbon fiber cello had an interesting resonance to me, almost like a reverb effect. I thought it sounded great in the mid to high registers, but the wooden cello had a noticeably fuller sound in the low register.
🎉Very beautiful play. Thank you. Please suggest 3D to add a sound hole at side, like carbon fiber guitar has, so player can handheld the cello easily. Now it so round, hard to hold the cello with one hand when you try to pick it up and put it in a case or bag.
Great video! I've had my Forte3D cello for a little over a year now and love it! Great for outdoor gigs and teaching without fear of my younger students accidentally scratching it up. I get a lot of compliments on its tone and how much it projects. Definitely easier on the wallet compared to other carbon fibers, especially if it's not going to be your primary cello.
Forte3d is the new kid on the block and they sound great on CZcams vids at least. I'm not into the CF cello sound on the ones I tried, but this sounds good to my ears at least on a CZcams vid. The Forte3d sounds more powerful tho. I wanna know the make of the wooden one, since it sounds great for the price if in the same price range.?
Very surprised I picked the carbon fiber as sounding the best every time. The tone was crisp and clean. Beautiful variation in low to high notes. Great comparisions.
I preferred the warmer resonance of the wood cello, on higher notes but the carbon fiber cello was very close!
Carbon fiber cellos seem to have a built-in „reverb effect“, they are very resonant...
Both cellos seem to me very weak, I do have a wooden (Mittenwald about 1850-60) and a carbon fiber cello (Luis and Clark), both are way better sounding (if your recording is accurate, what I assume)…
wood sounds better imho
Also wood looks better! Surely they could add a scroll and a simulated wood finish to this product!
The wooden cello will last for many hundreds of years.. the carbon fiber however.. The binding resins decompose after 30 or 40 years and the cello WILL self-destruct. They are on borrowed time from day one
I’m new to cello…is that a chest pad of some kind?
I went into this quite prejudiced in favor of the traditional wooden 'cello, but I was surprised to find that I could scarcely tell them apart. However, I find the sterile look of the carbon-fiber 'cello rather unappealing. They need to at least add a scroll to it! I am a retired symphony musician with most of my experience in contrabass, but also play violin and 'cello.
I wonder how often you said Cello in this video. :)