Bored Ape Yacht Club: A Dark Secret Exposed | Asmongold Reacts to Philion
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- Asmongold Reacts to the dark truth behind 'Bored Ape Yacht Club' and interviews the creator of this exposé. (Original by Philion: • BORED APE NAZI CLUB )
0:00 Bored Ape Yacht Club: A Dark Secret Exposed
1:35:02 Asmongold interviews Philion on a Discord call
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I think my favorite part is when they go into the puzzle game site. Because everything before that seems like a huge reach, and then they show the complexity in the puzzles and it's like "oh, these guys could completely know what they're doing".
Exactly what I thought
The whole puzzle section just screams 4chan to me. Anytime you see a very elaborate puzzle like that with a very stupid or troll-ish conclusion, it's usually them.
@@Hzuuuu weaponized autism in a nutshell
You are correct, sir. However, everything he said is still a HUGE reach. The reality is, the person who made the video latched on to ONE thing, the word ape.
They hired a team. Chill
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime, and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, your lawyer just kept screaming "REEEACH"
But that is basically what they do. In a bit more sophisticated way though.
this would fly out of the court immediately since all of this is circumstantial evidence and no hard proof. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. maybe in civil court this could work but criminal court would need someone to admit to something, a swastika tattoo or one of those guys saying sieg heil on video. Criminal court does have higher standards due to the go to prison part of it.
Amber Heard's lawyers will definitely do that
@@0bomberjack0 You do realize that most court cases don't have legitimate hard evidence right? Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean video evidence, it often means enough circumstantial evidence that the likelihood of everything being a coincidence isn't worth considering. That's why the wording is beyond a reasonable doubt and not any doubt, because there will almost always be some tiny chance
@@rheawelsh4142 thanks for repeating what i said you really added to the discussion. The different levels of proof are needed for civil and criminal cases which are two seperate courts. In civil it's mostly about money while criminal can make you a fellon and get you into prison for the rest of your life and that's where the different levels of proof come into play. Usually judges know the difference but some don't cause they're bad at their job.
I think the game was the smoking gun. The game was the proof that they were willing to think deeply, favor cryptic puzzles and use hidden meanings. That makes all the other reaches plausible, along with it being created by writers but then having almost no "story" told explicitly.
Everybody's eyes being burned out is harking to Ezikiels chariot. They're being blatant in their messaging about how stupid people are to fly too close to the sun. With themselves playing the sun in the story. It's a disease but people who do this shit cant stop. They're committed.
This is a great point here
I am not going to stop wearing my retro 80s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shirts because they say that.
Cowabunga it is then.
@@mikeespinoza5733hell yea brother
Everything is a racissssmsss and supremacissssmsms
"how many times does it take?":
"Once is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern, and patterns are worth exploring" -a wise man
Sounds like the argument for every QAnon conspiracy lmao.
I like that Quote. Who is this Wise man?
I commented the og quote then noticed this, this is a version of a James Bond quote made by goldfinger
@@lennysmileyface, qanon is false and it’s been proven when Biden won.
This is a false equivalency you’re trying to push here
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Asmongold at the start: "I'll spot any kind of crypto racism"
Asmongold throughout: "I have never heard of this"
@@davidsantiago7808 fr, you can accidentally use imagery that ends up having bad connotations, but the logo is way too fucking specific to be an accident
@@davidsantiago7808 Those are just species of monkeys...technically it is racist because it refers to race....
And even so..who cares. Calling someone a name doesnt change anything in the real world.
Buy it or dont buy it...but not everything needs a racist lens.
BTW - Hiring black people and woman under guise of "Equity Hiring"...is racist/sexist.
But you dont care about that....
These Ism's are everywhere. If you want to attack them please be consistent and not act like some blinded horse lead by societies emotional carrot.
@@Pihsrosnec and also they could just change it, but they didn’t. The 18 teeth is so intentional
@@davidsantiago7808 all
@@p0lish 🤡"aLL"
Asmongold's dad calling in and tuning into the stream really hit the feels
I was a history major, and these crafty bastards are very well educated. Their schtick is pretty overtly apparent to a trained eye, but damn is the general public alarmingly oblivious.
Moment I saw their totenkopf logo, I knew they were up to some wild shit and trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they weren't.
Props to BAYC for so completely pulling the wool over the public eye, and even greater props to the folks who call them out.
As if our "modern democracies" were more desirable than the alternate outcome of the two great wars back then.
The world's incredibly messed up with all these forced migrations happening and everything being uglified. I'd take a world where that doesn't exist any day of the week, no matter how much death it costs.
if you a history major, then you've looked up Nazis stuff. bingo, flagged by the FBI.
Thats the joke. Triggered emotional nerds. hehe...nothing more than that.
36. $3800 OK there and that was all through nonunion. Yeah yeah OK
And props for them not only humiliating the suckers when the suckers don’t even realize it, AND make tons of money off of them
@@thehoodedteddy1335I assumed that was the whole point, sell their NFTs to particularly liberal artists/influencers while making them subliminally racist/authoritarian/controversial to make fun of them
The interview with those ladies with the bored ape lady giving weird circle running answers is one of the creepiest interviews I've ever seen. Is that actually real? For real?
Gave me Amber Heard vibes.
@@greenfroggood2392 "They have a background in writing, like both of them are authors so, like, they're creatives, like, they're not academic people, they're like, creatives, and so this is like a creation for them"
Bitch was like a broken record in these clips.
i think she was high on cocaine. just my opinion but she was being very grandiose.
'creepiest'?
This is why your side piece should never be given a job in public relations in your organization.
I never connected the dots to racism before, but I always believed that the name "bored apes" is a mockery making fun of the buyers. The buyers are the real bored apes.
And they all use them as pfps… they definitely are bored apes
you didnt watch the video did you
What's really funny is the left who's ideology has killed more people in the last century than every religion, ideology combined is selling people on how terrible the right is. It's beyond laughable
@@thatherton I said "I never connected the dots" not "I can't connect the dots"
Then the Ape escape series must be the most racist games ever made
The title "Alt Right" means nothing to me anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right."
what?
@@Skarrz163 He said that the title "alt right" means nothing to him anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right".
@@jojolafrite90😂
As intended.... the fire rises
Wait. I’m not sure but
I thought Japanese version 2chan was way older than 4chan.
I’m from Japan by the way.
The name 2chan(Channel 2) comes from , back in the days(Analog TV era)
Japanese Channel wasn’t used by broadcast and we mostly used channels 2 for Line in (like connecting nintendo games or video).
New age started to grow and start to get bored against same old
broadcast TV.
So 2chan(2チャン) had meaning of frustration of old type media.
And most of the Emoji culture cane from 2chan.
Things like text base Emojis like
( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ )
( ´Д`)y━･~~ smoking
And yes 2chan went through many problems
similar to 4chan
Sorry if my English doesn’t make sense.
Thank you Nippon Anon
There is no way to watch any documentary in youtube without the creator clipping in Asmongold into the story.
I have come to known this as Peace. If it does not happen, I am not.
This might be the time to say “chill and surf the kali yuga”
He hasn’t logged off since 2001. You’re going to run into him somewhere.
I think its really mostly just marketing. Put a big CZcamsr in there, chances are someone from their community sees it and tells them to watch it cause they its funny.
If you put in 5 of them and at least one of them reacts to it, thats another 100k views on your video the next day.
@@undsowei1erundsofor1 But the video he is promoting here is literally hidden from the platform in this case. Go ahead, try to find it. This one is probably just Asmon wanting to make this viewed.
They should also mention that there is a long history of writers and artist's trolling people. The biggest troll of all time is scientology. It was 2 sci fi authors making a bet that one couldn't create an absurd religion and actually get people to follow
no fucking way. scientology isn't just a dumb bet between two writers is it?
That's lame
@@NickKrige Christianity here... Hold my beer.
@@nilionth Reality is often stranger than fiction, as they say
And made billions
I've rewatched this like 6 times lol such a great video.
Me too lmfao. This is probably my 6th time exactly watching as well 🤣
Man that puzzle got me thinking so hard that I even forgot about the people that he was talking about in the previous section
There's no way the people who made those "puzzles" can be accidently doing any of this.
except they didn't even make the puzzle they paid a legitimate company that makes these type of things to do it, easily verifiable
@@kurtlee3198 they still would've had final say and creative control
@@kurtlee3198
Uhh…that doesn’t really PROVE anything other than the possibility that the company they contracted to do the “puzzles” were in on the troll OR BAYC had final say in what the solutions would be and all the “hidden meanings” and shit slipped completely under the contracted studio’s radar.
@@kurtlee3198 but they have someone checking everything got to be😭
I don't understand why the video needed an in-depth walkthrough of the puzzle, to me it seemed like filler. Very little of it was relevant to the thesis statement of the video, and mostly it just boiled down to "it repeatedly makes references to primates, and racists like to use primate-related slurs."
For myself, some of the evidence presented early in the video was strong, but then it seemed to devolve into a gisp gallop of sorts, and I found myself less convinced by the time the second poll was run. The argument, "how many points do you need to be convinced" struck me as a red flag; it's a generally wrong-headed approach to take, because what should matter is the quality of the evidence, or how the available evidence fits into a pattern of logic, not how many bullet points of "evidence" and loose associations you can throw at the wall. This is one of the ways people fool themselves into believing in more far-fetched conspiracy theories.
So you can make the point that ape/primate imagery/language/pseudo-science has a robust history of being used in a racist way. That is a very good point to make. But then regardless of what the intentions were behind choosing apes as the theme, you would naturally expect the project to have other ape/primate-related elements, so for those instances to be considered as new/separate pieces of evidence for the argument, there should be some really compelling additional context pertinent to each additional "point" being presented; if the additional context is a stretch, it should be given minimal weight, since we've already considered and assigned some weight to the general "apes are associated with racism" point.
as a graphic design student when I make a logo, I literally make at least 6-10 variations of it. There's absolutely no way these guys accidentally made their logo identical to that Nazi one. Like no shot. It's like asmon said, without the necessary knowledge you won't understand a lot of things. For me personally, I don't have to look past that to know it is on purpose
Yeah, and the ragged circle outline design is especially weird. I've seen like, the letter stamp circle with the wavy outline but the jaggedness of their outline is smth I've never seen anywhere before, people usually either use like one of the -gons, a straight up circle or the wavy circle perimeter like in stamps, the only 2 logos I've seen with the rough circle outline on their logo are the two logos shown in this video.
And there is absolutely no way that the national animal for both the United States and na zi germany is an eagle... Like, with all the different animals around the world, what are the odds they would both just randomly choose eagle?
Chances are miniscule. Clearly there is a connection between USA and nazism
Meme? what if they did it on purpose? it's edgy, they have our attention dont they?
No one thought they did, and you being a graphic designer was entirely irrelevant. Lol
The eye sockets are the most definitive giveaway, of course taking the text into consideration too lol
One of your best reaction videos. You're humble and embrace it, very funny! You can tell you are actually pulled in from the lack of pausing, lol.
Man the going out of your way to do extensive research to cherry pick coincidences in copium overdosed individual got me rolling.
"It's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" true words! I remember when i snapped an old friend of mine back to reality with this quote when he was misled by a girl.
The problem is that, a lot of the time, people who use this phrase haven't truly acknowledged the underlying implications for them. The moment you accept something as true because "it came from a trustworthy source", you've opened up the possibility that you're the one being fooled. That being said, this isn't a criticism at all, but more of a reminder. It's literally impossible for anyone to function in the world without accepting most things as true that they cannot 100% individually confirm, so it's inevitable that a lot, if not most, of our beliefs are incorrect. I don't know if that made sense, but it clicks and my head and hopefully it does to anyone who reads it that might be having too much confidence in their ability to differentiate between true and false based solely on another person's words and their own intuition.
snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity
Starscream and Megatron 😎🦖
No doubt it started out as a troll but it just snowballed into something so much bigger and ended up being a profit making machine. I don't doubt the creators never expected it to blow up as much as it did.
yeah, for the business the neo-nazi image is not the best. So they will let loose
Or and there is a possibility, the guy who made the video is lying to you.
@@gundamnit3594 OMEGALUL
@@gundamnit3594 You are aware that you can check whether what he said is true in under 5 minutes, yes?
You know that there are tons of sites that archive 4chan posts, yes?
You know that you can search those sites for what that guy claims is 4chan-lingo, yes?
Because I did.
Which is why I know that he is lying.
@@LuvboneX nice troll name dude, Adolf and Neumann together, bravo
man i love the relationship you have with your dad, makes me wish the same. With all my heart i hope you two live long and be happy
Update via wikipedia:
In April 2023, federal judge John F. Walter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California issued a summary judgment in Yuga Labs' favor, with damages to be determined at trial.[71] The judge ruled that Ripps and his partner Jeremy Cahen had committed "false designation of origin" and "cybersquatting" and that Yuga Labs was entitled to an injunction and damages.[71][72] Following the court trial, Judge Walter ruled that Yuga Labs was entitled to recover all $1.3 million of Ripps' and Cahen's profits from the sale of the copycat NFTs, plus $200,000 in damages for cybersquatting, plus attorneys' fees; the ruling was made public in October 2023.[73]
Surfing the Kali Yuga TO THE END
LOL
Based judge.
Classic example of Juice juicing juice.
Team Yuga are juice.
Ripps is a juice.
Judge is a juice.
This is the orange juice world order. Praise the vitamin C
So nothing refuting their theory.
The most wholesome thing is Asmon's dad calling in. Good God I love that his Dad tunes into the stream.
And then reminisces how he provided his son with a spiked kaiser, bike helmet…
Then asmon mentioning that he put a bunch of nails sticking through his bike helmet…
Then mentioning it might not be safe to use…
Then implying that he still has the helmet…
💀 *I M P L I C A T E D* 💀
Despite the context and intentions, this whole cryptic puzzle thing is quite impressive to be honest. Reminds me of the Cicada 3301 event from 10 years ago
just came on to say the same thing, only using Human Pet as an example. Those ARGs were amazingly well put together.
Respect for the cryptography 🔐
@@laneswerve Even if they aren't using it for racist ends the fact they're using if for trash NFT bullshit it's still being used for evil which is disappointing...
yeah i love the cicada stuff all this puzzle into puzzle into puzzle stuf is amazing and blows my mind
There was another project called Genopets where they did something alike
(cipher and google geolocation) to find the answer under a certain amount of time to be able to access a key to mint an NFT. I've participated in all of them, and it was challenging AF but so fun and rewarding!
That bar in Gangster sh*t by Pete and Bas hits different now knowing about Ryder Ripp
Slept on comment 😭🔥
When I started this I was falling asleep. It’s so interesting it kept me up to the end.
The fact that it isn’t clear or direct that these guys are either trolls or YAZIs means they are definitely emperor-tier trolls at a minimum. Great video.
The documentary maker just doesn't understand or want to understand 4chan culture to know. Those guys aren't really Nazis, they're just counter culture hipsters being cute and trolling. Sure they might actually entertain fascist nonsense as an aesthetic but they're not real nazis. If they lived in Germany 1933 they would be commies or something.
i think one of the biggest tells that something is going on is the whole puzzle game itself. it shows that they are extremely well versed in cryptic messaging and hiding thing in plain sight. kinda makes me wonder what other types of messaging might be hidden in the bored apes NFTs.
I think it shows how smart these anons can be, and how they are figuring out more and more how to shepherd the masses, and even manipulate the "elites" of society
@@Xemptuous Oh god. We are heading into the world of Metal Gear Solid, only instead of arms dealers, the AI controlling everything will have been created by the hacker known as 4chan.
@@Xemptuous Or... the more likely reality, it just shows how good they are at trolling and getting people riled up about "something" that is actually nothing, and how so many people like yourself get roped into it. 4chan has done very elaborate trolls before, but they're just that, trolls. And obviously Anons are "smart"... Anonymous started out on 4chan, as well as other fringe hacker groups, it's a HUGE community, many of which are cyber geeks, obviously they'd have skills in technology here and there.
Cryptography games aren't rare at all. Lots of games, Escape from Tarkov for example, have had them as promotional contests. Most of the puzzles give you the cipher too so it's not that much of a puzzle.
@@gelatinousturncoat It's bog standard fare to anyone who has participated in or was otherwise involved with some ARG really. Some of the imagery and weirdly specific namedropping does raise an eyebrow, but not much more.
Honestly with how elaborate all those puzzles were I’d reconsider calling anything a reach. That’s was pretty insane and I wouldn’t put it past them to make things so damn obscure they’re often mistaken as just a “reach”
I love your profile pic
Want to add me on predecessor?
I'm sure Anastasia loved those hexes.
Did anyone think about her?
Yea I was firmly in the "this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense" camp until seeing how elaborate and intricately designed that puzzle was. Hard for me to believe the guys who came up with that puzzle put no hidden meaning into their initial designs.
The aperol thing was silly. The video could be cut down by at least 10 minutes
This hole thing is total BS
very interesting topic, thankyou
Genius level trolling.
At the end in the interview he mentions where the logo shows up with the jagged edges... but he fails to mention its on the front page of the official website. The logo in the footer is actually a transparent PNG, but you can't tell because its black on a black background. If you look at the image alone, it has the same jagged edge. Hidden in plain sight.
For me, those jagged/rippled edges of the circular logo were the clincher. When you combine everything else with the fact they created this logo, added a SKULL to it right where the SS' logo has the skull, with the text in the same places on both logos, you can no longer say there's nothing here. Come on. How many round logos do you remember seeing with rippled/jagged edges? I can't think of a single one. That's when I took everything else seriously, and after two views, imo, there's zero percent chance this wasn't completely planned and designed. I don't know or even think these guys are white supremacists, but they're definitely trolls.
@@willd.8040 Of course they're trolls but the implication is that they're alt-right white supremacist nazis. Why was this video made and why is it doing the rounds on Twitch? You know they use these platforms to influence peolpe and to propagate naratives.
@@willd.8040 The whole jagged edge emblem is complete bs. Nazis or Prussians never had jagged imagery or paraphernalia, ever. What was more common was just the skull itself. When it was as an emblem, it was ALWAYS just circular or oval, not jagged. You will never find the jagged edge in any Nazi or Prussian army uniforms, rings, lockets, books, imagery, etc, because that is not how that emblem looks. I do not know where the author of that video found those images with the jagged edge, but as a WW2 buff myself, I've NEVER seen that logo displayed like that in my entire life. It certainly was not worn like that by the SS or the Totenkompf division.
@@tlanimass952 Im pretty sure new age neo nazis use jagged egdes and more metal adjacent imagery a lot atleast here in germany thats quite common. obviously no one is saying those kinds of styles were used in actual nazi uniforms back in the day.
@@tlanimass952 You missed the point.
The jagged nazi emblem was used on the internet before NFTs were a thing. Then it was copied by the bored ape guys.
Nobody claimed that it was used back in WW2 on uniforms.
This man broke down the video extremely well and then with a surprise ending to interview the creator of the video…..Your the man, what a journey this was
@@ginorvdw here to help 🤙
Meanwhile XQC's reaction : Waaaiiitt whaaatt with confused face for an hour.
Philion has a great channel
funny how most people are not doubting this but will call the pizza thing with children in DC "circumstantial evidence"
But that DC stuff is just an Alt-Right "Dog Whistle"
Usually the ones making claims of Dog Whistles are the ones with the Agendas
Further proof of their trolling having a point, adding to that, why is their stuff treated as a crime? They are literally being edgy and as their rep said, they are not white, and yet you don't see this rage against true abuse by the average international corpo
The guy of the video claims "they took our money" when in fact they didn't have anything taken from them, just mindlessly raging against what they are told to rage
Comet ping pong thing was real. James Alefantis' ig was disgusting
lol I bet you think the election was stolen
...people literally went there, it doesn't have a basement. Circumstantial evidence? Non-existent, more like. More than one person has tried too, didn't one guy bust down a door just to find some old cash registers and cleaning equipment.
You and your dad are so wholesome ❤
That's how you know that man was dedicated to making a good video, he was on top of it and ready to go at a moment's notice for an interview covering it's content; well done.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 idk how anyone can read what you said and know what you are talking about. That's 4/10 writing
@@vagabondwastrel2361 All videos are premade, unless you count being live as a video
Good video? All he did was waste my time on vague theories and sketchy connections with puzzles as time filler to give it a more documentary like length. FU Philon, you aint got nothing but far reaches or shit that could be explained as 4 chan inside troll humor, who gives a shit even if they got some nazi sympathies which i doubt seeing the group, it's not like they directly give money or buy weapons for nazis on a massive scale. We got the EU and US doing that right now for Ukraine. Now the Biden laptop.... that is one tasty conspiracy "theory". Shit one of the experts is a artistic (probably hedgefund) guy that made a few memes, wow! Philon brings out the big guns! I find the idea that Philon acts like he is in a Dan Brown novel by solving some monkey themed puzzles on a website where he gets monkey related answers where he looks for the most sinister correlations as explanations expecting the answers to finally bring down an evil multi billion dollar operation HILARIOUS!! Philon should stick to nattie or not like content.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 As I said, all videos are premade on youtube
@@vagabondwastrel2361 the video was uploaded a week ago. No shit it was made before the interview lol what point are you trying to make? It's not like Asmongold watched a live video.
32:02
i actually remember seeing that photo studying history. I'm 99% sure (and this is the worst part) that, in that photo, the man is actually staring at the hands of his daughter, who had been cut off to punish him.
It's a sick world
You're right, I remember that photo as well.
Speaking as a father, id do everything in my power to hurt the people who did this to my child. It would become my life's mission to get revenge.
That's England and USA MoD.
@@mohammedsiddiqui3062Not saying you're in the right or wrong but what do you mean? The executioner? The one giving the order? The higher up (Cartel boss, warlord, general)? Everyone?
@@DamianSzajnowski they call him John Wick now
I found this video a year later. BAYC won their lawsuit against Ryder Ripps. NFTs have since collapsed in value. As of August of this year, a group of NFT buyers was suing some people related to it, including Paris Hilton? But I had trouble finding any more info on that. Nonetheless, BAYC is still going, and just posted an update about a new season of NFTs coming out a few hours ago. So... what happened with all of this?
LMAO the macaque segment had me cracking up. "Welcome him to America!" LOOOL
Asmon might have the coolest Dad ever. He even watches the streams! There's parents out there right now, with 12 year olds. That don't show as much interest in what their kid likes doing. As much as asmons Dad does, with asmon being a grown ass man! Respect dude!
Nerd
"There 'is' parents out there right now".
Find the error and you pass 1st grade.
@@ocrapo9327 You correcting a CZcams comments grammar is literally what a 1st grader would do lmao.
@@ocrapo9327 Cor ain't you clever mister random internet guy. Trust me we are all really impressed.
@@ocrapo9327 1inchpunch is lying. Nobody thinks it's impressive
Props to Zack for a great interview, especially on-the-spot like that. He's such a professional. Great video.
Literally, asking legit thought-out questions
How is he so good at interviews without preparation ?
this is asmongold, zack's brother
"Wow so you don't get anything!!" good stuff had me lol.
I love that dad Asmon is just tuning in after shopping.
This guy sounds like the Jim Carrey in The Number 23. "This is German, so it's bad!" "This contains this sequence of two numbers therefore it's racist!"
Give it a rest, guy.
23 is code for 666 (2/3 = .666)
Robert Anton Wilson won't tell you that...
Honestly this was a really good video by asmongold covering a really good video by Philion.
Huge respect for both for having a discussion on this as well!
The fact that he uses the words "alt right" unironically and believes KEK is a racist dogwhistle should let you know not to take this guy seriously.
@@catra195 alt-right was a term coined by Richard Spencer... You realize that when everyone points to an obvious Nazi being an obvious Nazi and you make these kinds of statements in their defense it ruins any credibility you have right?
@@aslemartinsen5284 this is hardly digging "deep" or stretching "long" can we be fucking honest
I have not watched much of Asmund but the relationship with his father is really cool. Seems like his dad is really interested in his son and the things he is into. I hope me and my kids can have that relationship when they are older.
I hope so for my future kids as well.
I was home over the holiday break and I was doing dishes at my parent’s house and watching a podcast while doing so (at like 25% iPhone speaker volume lol) and my dad comes over from a different part of the house and rudely/coldly says, “Turn that off.”
Of course, I ask, “Why?” And he just responds with, “It’s boring. Who cares about their lives?”
Keep in mind I’m a 33 year old dude that lives across the country from my parents and is married… it’s not like he’s trying to police what I’m watching lol. He was just being a dick.
Yeah I wish my father was like that.
@@user-dj9iu2et3rnot really being a dick, hes just telling you that you can do something more productive than listen to some dudes talk about their lives on youtube
Good ol asmund
Based comment
Makes me wonder why Asmongold’s dad has that painting and why he gifted him that hat…
Asmon's reaction when he said "more difficult puzzles" xD
What people need to understand is that 4Chan does work with layers upon layers upon layers of crap like this. That's literally the bloody point, being so absurd and so obscure that normal people just shrug it off as "Pfft that's ridiculous" because yes it is and that's the point. That's why exposing them as racists or of using racist conotations and such has always been so hard.
thats so bloody reuw m8
or you lefties simply make stuff up 😅
praise kek
Oh no some losers called them racists, how will they recover
Oh yeah, a simple political version of this is something like "forced bussing" or inner city management, somethings that sounds like boring city crap but really deal with racist shit pushed by Republicans. Which 4Chan took a look at that, looked at the KKK, and white nationalists, and said, we can make it more obscure
im still blown away they made an entire game with puzzles and messeges all throughout. Thats some dedication, also, the hat with the skull on it that the monkey was wearing was the dead giveaway for me in the rolling stones poster not just the monkey hand
Deathshead isn't a nazi symbol though its a symbol for elite/cavalry units of the time thats still used today
The deathshead isn't a purely German symbol or a racist symbol,its an international symbol thats been used or is used by damn near every nation on earth
Its a symbol of elite cavalry or elite units or a symbol of danger
And if the Totenkof IS racist, then the USMC and US Army are racist, the German army is racist, the Portuguese army is racist, the polish are racist, the Royal Air Force is racist, and pretty much every US Cavalry unit is racist as they ALL use the Totenkof to this very day
@@nicholasbrown668 again, all these points make a line. A pattern is a pattern, and when all of these widly different points have two possible patterns have 2 possible interpretations, where one of them is nazi, its worth thinking about. I know analogies are risky but: its like meeting someone and they have 500 red flags, would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
@@gaminggaming.6071 ok then all those points of western militaries using the Totenkof make a line therefore they are racist and nazis
Hi Asmongold I want to say thanks im really enjoying your content the one about NFT blew me away congrats on your success you say what you think and honestly give opinions cheers mate
"less likely to be racist if they are jews"
well a lot changed in a year.....
they are the most racist.
explain...? I'm out of the loop on... everything
I think it's so wholesome how his dad was watching the stream
It's absolutely a troll. And I'd argue that little to none of the accusations are reaches, considering if we look at the puzzle we know that they are incredibly smart. They're not stupid, smart to a point that it's hard to believe there'd be any coincidences within it all. With all the information together it all seems purposeful. Carefully calculated and crafted by people who knew exactly what they were doing before they even started BAYC. They aren't being called racists. Or nazis. Or any of that. They're being called trolls, trolls that pulled off the biggest troll. And of course they wont admit it because of how much money they're making.
Good take. Just a bunch of white people taking advantage of the new crypto tech hidden behind mystery. But what brought them together was making fun of 'apes' lol. Wholesome
That's the point. Individually most of the accusations are reaches, but when looking at all of them together, there is no way you can claim it's a coincidence.
@@rayquaza1245 reminds me of Fleming's quote from 007 "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three time is enemy action." Except in this case it would be "three time is trolling"
@@rayquaza1245 you can though. Have you seen literally any other conspiracy theory they all have similar connections and if you look hard enough you can find connections like that with anything (this has been tested). Ancient aliens and the moon landing conspiracy use similar tactics. Not saying it's not true but none of this counts as proof in science or law. You can say it's likely but not proven.
At what point does trolling become embracing? Just trolling hasn't been a valid defense for a couple years now. These people are spreading Nazi symbolism to people who don't think it's a joke at all. They see it as an acceptance and endorsement of a disgusting view of life.
It's beyond laughable you don't think racist trolls are actually racist. Just a joke, right? Sure.
I've watched Philions video about this and he did a really good job in his research. It's a long video but a good one. I love your facial expressions by the way! lol.
24:20 Holy crap the rabbit hole went deep and 100% more close to home than we thought O_O
"I've been on the internet for 20 years. I recognize them all. (Racist imagery)"
Asmon summed up the internet.
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Definitely standard issue for the internet 😂😭
@@Starius2 I’ve been on the internet for 20 years, discrimination is standard issue and expected 💯
@@Starius2 denial
@@Starius2 ""BUT MUH" "Nothing like a lazy trope". Oh the Ironing
Conspiracies like this really fascinate me. Individually it can all be minor coincidences, or reaches to connect the dots.. But the further you dig into the rabbit hole the number of coincidences gets so high that its almost impossible to ignore. Thats not to say theres any credit to it either though, as there are so many conspiracies like this where you can connect all kinds of obscure references but genuinely are just a strange coincidence.
I still don't know how i feel about this one though, the logo itself is probably the biggest red flag for me. Ive never liked the look of it, but never understood why until now, and once you see the connection its very hard not to associate the two afterwards. Even if this was done by mistake, you would 100% change it the moment you realised, and its not like the logo is such a unique design that it would hold some sentimental value to them as a company. You'd scrap that shit immediately.
You would make the logo look more like the nfts itself.
There's no such thing as a coincidence. 👁👁
It's nigh impossible for every single aspect of this to be pure coincidence, there's far too many for it not to be intentional, add on top their clear fascination with cryptography and it just clear as day.
literally read coinspiracies and coin-incidences
This cant be a coincidence.
A Link Between Worlds was insanely fun and great. I couldn't stop playing it. Yuga would be a cool name to source your name from
20:57 Are You doing a bump there? Shure looks like it. Well, this is hard to stomach and fast- I´m gonna do one, too. Happy new Year!
"Even saying what it is makes people feel stupid." HOLY SHIT. My dude just found a way to describe my initial reaction to NFTs, I didn't know that was possible! Like my instincts at the time were sensing BS, at the time I was thinking maybe I was just too dumb to understand it. Trying to describe to myself what I was thinking felt more like a vague description of a feeling than anything. Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones. I am SO GLAD I have been involved in politics enough to realize super intelligent people can exist on both the right and wrong side, IF there even is only one correct, or only one wrong side. That realization prevented me from falling for some serious shenanigans and I didn't even understand why until just now. My mind is blown.
@@Sercotani Yeah my initial attempts to understand things were a bit embarrassing... Too easy to not think about it during my younger years, citing being too busy with my individual problems and whatnot lol. Guess that's just part of maturing as a person.
Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is? No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite. Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.
Its weird, I had the same inital BS sensation when I first started seein this stuff take off. I felt I was missing something, but I think due to not fully understanding I got kinda pulled away from it interest wise. Still dont get why NFT stuff got so popular, or how you can sink that much money into it. D: Its way beyond me, but pretty glad I just opted to stay away from it at first glance lmao. Seems way to shady to me, reminded me of watching Kitboga with all the scams goin on every day.
I'm terrified to realize there are people that have thought processes like this and ones that are even worse... " Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones." The amount of people that operate on this logic is terrifying.
@@Sercotani Seriously, like wtf am I reading. This is stuff you learn in preschool, you see it in cartoons as a kid. Wtf is this. How many cartoons and kid's shows where the bad guy is an evil genius. There is so much media and culture where this is the premise that are out there, I don't understand how one can be past the age of 7 years old and not at least somewhat be aware or keen about smarter people trying to manipulate them. Did your parents never tell you to watch out for people trying to manipulate you? Watch out for adults or smarter people trying to coerce you. This is so sad, but this is reality, you have to realize that there are more stupid people than smart people. Idiocracy is what we are living in. If you're of average or above intelligence you happen to be one of the rare ones now...
58:55 She seems so uncomfortable and careful answering that question. I found it funny when she mentioned a few partners and their ethnicities, as if someone's race/nationality automatically determines their political beliefs.
Interesting video though, a few reaches but some seem too coincidental to be accidental. It wouldn't surprise me if it was all a 4Chan style joke that got out of hand.
How would you ever call it "out of their hands" when they made a fuckin puzzle (with at least 2 pitfalls that purposefully mock the solver that they are wasting their time) using advanced cryptography. These guys are writers who studied the other greatest minds of their time and this is their own masterpiece. They know exactly what they are doing. Its been the same joke all along.
@@White__Ink Oh totally. I meant things blew up and went further than they expected. I assume they couldn't have predicted their "joke" would become the massive phenomenon it is now.
@@averageryan4965 Ah gotcha. Yeah. Those guys never expected the 5th ape with that hollywood mogul. Then they full send it!
Yeah that was sus.
The kek part was insane! I had no idea and I love kek
Taking trolling seriously gives trolls more power
I'm exhausted just thinking about the amount of thought and effort it took to put all of this together.. truly fascinating.
Which is exactly why history will not remember your name.
@@monehgetcalm down bud
@@origintrackz5235reaching sure but when it’s 50 different examples, those coincidences don’t seem so much like coincidences
@@monehget coming from a guy who has a playlist about being on a fucking keto diet
@@lunaluceat the "keto historian"
Man. I thought I was online a lot, but this is just out of my reality. Dude, at this point I'm just amazed by how deep the iceberg goes. Like, all this effort to sneak some dog whistles into NFTs? I'm happy they're using their efforts for this, because these guys seem like they have the sheer determination to be supervillains and *actually* take over the world or some shit if they ever get bored wasting their powers trolling.
do you think the millions of dollars they made aren't going to be used to advance their political goals?
Aren’t you glad there are people who will explore the entire iceberg
Not wasting. They're making millions of dollars.
@@ckorp666 nah they scam other morons they dont need to
they are following the Golden rule. Who ever has the gold makes the rules.
Honestly, the fact that they made people trade jpegs for millions of dollars is way funnier. The hidden racist references aren't even that imressive at that point.
Right? The racism is sort of just side flavour
I remember when this first dropped and man, this has to be one of the greatest troll jobs in history
What's hilarious is my Dad had the same response. I guess I didn't know that there was already a precedent for this kind of stuff.
Lol
what was the precedent?
@@suigetsuh17 Other trolls/racists incorporating fascist dog whistles in mainstream media
This was mind boggling, incredible story. Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke, man you just opened a whole can of worms for me. Not to say i already didnt have reservations but when is just laid out in front of you like this its just staggering.
What gets stranger is that this is the real internet in the video. The internet most people see, websites and social media, is dead. It’s been flooded with AI engagements, fake reviews, fake conversations, and even fake news articles for the past decade.
The stuff on 4chan and what these trolls create are real human ideas. The internet most people see is AI. There is no person behind it.
"Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke..."~just a regular buffoon. Jokes aside, pretty neat quote.
People are still in denial. Openly. Let that sink in.
It's either elaborate troll or confirmation bias. This dude seems to be tunnel visioning. Although it could also be true, but a series of reaches when stacked together will always look convincing.
The really insane thing is here in America we have allowed all of these people who are "elite" in society to divide us all into nice neat little groups. That they then use to push violence and discourse among the masses. Left, right, it doesn't matter b/c behind closed doors these insidious assholes are one UNIT who know what they want. And we all fell for it and continue to do so instead of seeing all this bs in America for what it is & unite against them. Elite bid for money, power, control of us, of all. All we see is two sides that "hate' one another when in reality WE are hating one another while they pull the strings becoming massively wealthy off of our chaos they create.
Asmon, you should watch Benjamin Freedman and his famous speech at the Willard Hotel in 1961.
It's quite astounding.
The interview had the weirdest air to it, everything the ceo was saying sounded like a blatant lie… you’d think she’d have a better composure in the position shes in
I do have to disagree with 2666 being a “nazi story”. Bolaño writes often about fascists and nazis, but his work is very strongly against fascism as a whole.
100% these guys know what they're doing, there's no way it's all a coincidence that's some dream luck.
anything that uses numerology is a fucking conspiracy theory
And yet people still want to avoid it or pretend otherwise. They keep trying to look at things in an isolated case in order to try and justify it even though the whole video is about a vast, sprawling picture. It's a shame that so much of this comment section alone adds fuel to that fire and if anything proves how far their influence has gone.
@@DerelictSong I guess me having my own sort of experience with these sorts of things and these kinds of people led me to knowing full well what they're like, so I already got it, simpler than it may appear at first. Most other people don't usually see that.
TL;DR for the people who do stuff like this, they're usually severely mentally ill but do everything in their power to make it seem like they are a savant instead. In their path to doing so, they probably do gain some good level of intelligence, but their unchecked mental illness that only gets worse means this intelligence gets shuffled and misguided.
@@theblobconsumes4859 I bet you believed Trump colluded with Russia too.
ah really man 🤦♂️
The similarity of the skull to a totenkopf is a pretty solid giveaway..
i have never heard about this at all
The thing about all the little detais is that they could've been very easily midified to add much more denyability, but they weren't. Like for instance the banana swastika. They coul've just flipped it, but they didn't. It's arms go in exact same direction.
It's little things like that.
thats not that little
same with GEs logo. They've changed it a dozen times since 1900 but always keep the swastik- i mean swirl.
If it's a troll they better have receipts that it's meant as a troll. I'd say the most convincing things are the logo, the price tags with the 14 and 88, but also the thing about the prisoner is too convenient. The price itself is pretty interesting because while it can just mean random people are setting random prices it can also mean those randoms are showing they've figured it out.
Numbers are a BIG thing with them. It's so they can put them in plain sight but still deny it. Out of all the symbols they use. Numbers are the biggest thing. As it makes them look smart.
ah yes guilty until proven innocent at its best.
assume the worst of people with zero evidence because thats just how you roll I guess
its a troll. its a great troll, its terrible as anything else and people that smart dont do things badly.
The price tag is the troll.
@@xelloskaczor5051 Yeah they are not nazis, just massive trolls, who managed to pull an amazing stunt, I was a bit worried at the start but everything checks out if you pay a little of attention later. The funniest part is how they make fun of the people that defend them, that one is hilarious.
In my experience with 4chan trolling. They only use this symbolism because it sets people off so hard. They also end up getting surrounded by actual nazis who think they've found like minds. Whom they then troll even harder. And what greater troll than getting a nazi to pay tens of thousands of dollars to signal they see the symbolism and think they'll be recruited or part of the in crowd. When really their gonna stay sitting at home wasting money on stupid jpegs
The reason why the troll works because everything is fake to begin with
OMG...what a rabbit hole. My jaw is dropping with each new "revelation"...like...it's hard to deny but also to fathom.
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, 40% of the room kept giggling.
atleast you know the jury will never unanimously agree right ? that is if you get a fair jury
@@bored588 Depends on the crime, not all crimes need an unanimous vote from the jury.
i mean Philion really does know how to chain together a good investigative story if anything else its highly entertaining and freaking wild
He's a hack, Remember his video about Noel Deyzel being bad for the fitness community even though he's honest about his PED use and makes good informative content for beginners?
Philion can't be trusted about anything
Def entertaining but the most massive reach i have ever seen😂 so many little things they just blast right through
"most massive reach i have ever seen" Boy that's pretty ridiculous to say. A couple coincidences, sure. But when you know as much about how these kinds of messages and groups operate, this is pretty standard for white supremacist trolling and messaging.
@@totenfurwotan4478 how do you explain the nazi imagery picture quickly
@@ghulaa Monkeys paw. A very common fable. But for some reason the guy in the video is relating monkeys to black people... really makes you think. Maybe its the people who see racism in everything all the time who are the true racist and are projecting their own thoughts onto others.
It literally took until the logo to convince me
That shit just doesn’t "happen"
Black circle with a skull on it is probably a 100% original logo idea
I'm not saying its not a reference but come up with a logo right now and I'll find something I can relate it to to prove whatever my decided point about it is, true or not.
the OK hand had a float point issue once it hit negative values.
"How can so many celebrities fall for this shit?"
-Man who drinks his Dr pepper raw.
Lmao at Asmon being like "thankfully you have me here as my guide" and then he continues to say "I've never heard of this" for everything that's said :D
Don't you think that means there could be some bullshit like "cowabunga" being racist? Not only is that used everywhere, but that meme is just a universal "Oh, so you have chosen violence" kind of meme.
@@MegaManDied you missed it by a mile. Fitting username too.
If a Internet Journeyman kind of people like Asmon can get caught off guard, what about common people?
This troll was so deliberate that even you need a help from a good cypher to figure it out.
I also like how the video itself references him as an expert on 4chan bs haha
@@White__Ink I'm dyslexic don't discriminate, Mega Man is my favorite video game
that Rene Guenon picture, his head form is similar to (at least in my eyes) to Adam Drivers...
Terminally online is such a great term . Thats a new one for me
The 3DS is one of the best selling systems of all time link between worlds was one of the stand out best reviewed Zelda games. I do agree with a lot of the other points, but even if this game was obscure, I do think a nerd would name their company after an obscure game
@@Xiatter wow yeah barely over 4 million meanwhile 75 million 3ds were sold so that’s super surprising to me but still my point about obscurity still stands. I feel like the nerdier you are the more obscure your references. My current dnd character is based off two random words from the ancient language in the eragon book series that aren’t even said in the books they are just part of the dictionary
more likely he chose it BECAUSE it was obscure? Wasn't that the whole point of the video? Obscure information?
@@TIMOZ1992tf does that even mean?
@@mikeespinoza5733 yeah but it isnt even obscure. The game sold a ton of copies and yuga is a fairly popular zelda character, just not as popular as ganon or link. Like if you have watched or interacted with other zelda fans you know yuga lmao
Same. I had a character named alkaizer from saga frontier because it was one of my favorite games as a kid. I did it. Im sure other people do it.
The puzzles and cyphers solidified it. A group that puts that much effort into cyphers and attention to detail can see the links they are creating.
The problem is that the premise was to find links to racism. I would love to see a similar video just claiming it’s an evangelical project and finding all the links to the scriptures. Would be an equally convincing video
I think u are totaly right there
Its just hard to say or do something without beein a nazi These days
Great video 👌🏼
The game site puzzles shows that they are excellent with puzzles and hidden messages, which makes me think it's all on purpose, those guys are way too damn smart for all this to be coincidence.
Love seeing interaction between Asmon & Phillion after watching both of their content for years
Whoever made these puzzles and clues needs to write the next Saw movie.
This is if batman and riddler were in a battle of racial puzzles
Internet puzzle freaks are weird. Like, in Elite Dangerous years ago they had a hidden Guardian base in a trailer. A guy found it by calculating the positions of stars (on a fictional ingame planet in an entirely different solar system light-years from Earth) that found him the exact location. The math involved was...staggering. mind you, the image where he found the stars was a still capture of a 2 second bit of video
That's actually awesome! 💀
Thanks for spreading this video around Asmon, and for your commentary. Most times, I play Lost Ark or do stuff around the apartment while watching your videos but for this one I had to pop one open and watch from the couch.
When every puzzle just begets another puzzle, and every symbol is just a symbol for another one, nobody is gonna top this troll for decades
The problem with ironic racism is that it attracts actual racists and eventually the true believers crowd out the ironic trolls.
This is literally the story of 4chan.
Is it? I think the problem is the exact opposite, it's that it attracts people who are even more ironic and incapable of insincerity, up to the point where people are buried so far under irony that they don't even know what reality is any more.
@@Nukestarmaster why not both?
@@Nukestarmaster You just declscribed basically the same thing. The issue is when the result of trolling racism and actual racism are the same (spreading racist ideology that leads to worse attitudes toward and treatment for groups of people), then the two are functionally no different and intent ceases to matter.
>people crying about how thousands of years old survival mechanism is a bad thing!
The sleep is deep indeed...
Racism is human nature it is a question of whether society can rise above it. Only the West has tried and it seems to failing apart after a century long attempt.