Temple and Endowment Meaning - Todd McLauchlin

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    An intelligent and enriching discussion between Greg and Todd McLauchlin, an astute gospel thinker. He and Greg discuss the meaning of the Temple Endowment, insights into what is going on there, and how the Priesthood functions. Todd also shows how the temple is found everywhere in the scriptures.
    Also, we break down and offer some context to Lehi's Dream and the elements of the Doctrine of Christ.
    Here is an episode from Greg on DBR - • Alma's "Word"- DBR, Al...
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Komentáře • 430

  • @ZachGorham44
    @ZachGorham44 Před 5 měsíci +93

    I think the overarching thought I have about this discussion is that our doctrine is so beautiful and true and good. I loved the point Todd made when he said something along the lines of, “Who cares about horses in the Book of Mormon when the whole thing is actually an endowment narrative!” I think we can become so embattled by the constant attacks and accusations against our church and beliefs that we don’t take enough time to actually understand how amazing our beliefs really are. It’s so easy to get tripped up by things that don’t matter in the grand scheme of things (like horses in the Book of Mormon) and if we allow that to happen we miss attaining our divine potential which culminates in obtaining the fruit of the tree of life.

    • @carenjennings7744
      @carenjennings7744 Před 5 měsíci +20

      Very, very well said. Our doctrine is so profoundly beautiful and incredible and humbling - makes me wonder if some people just can't believe how amazing it is and therefore, it must be false. I can't believe I am so blessed to have had it my entire life. Wow! Talk about being LOVED!!

    • @safrew1
      @safrew1 Před 5 měsíci +4

      This!

    • @paulcowles998
      @paulcowles998 Před 4 měsíci +5

      But interestingly it is proven that horses were in that region during the time of the writing of The Book of Mormon 0:36

    • @stevenscott6337
      @stevenscott6337 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wonderful point. It echoes Neal Maxwell when he warned not to “get caught up in the thick of thin things…”

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      I think horses are interesting too, but I get his point. BOM gets more and more interesting every year for those reaching to learn.

  • @bricefsvens5031
    @bricefsvens5031 Před 5 měsíci +26

    You know a discussion is good when it's an hour and eighteen minutes long, but it takes two hours to get through because I have to pause and jump into the scriptures. Thank you Greg for these faith building conversations. Keep them coming.

  • @DoctorSuezz
    @DoctorSuezz Před 5 měsíci +57

    I hope you will bring him back... this was NOT long enough. He has a lot to talk with you and all of us about and the conversation is fulfilling!! Thank you @Greg Matsen and @Todd McLaughlin

  • @chansebunker7373
    @chansebunker7373 Před 5 měsíci +37

    This is awesome that you had Todd on! He did my temple prep for my endowment a few months ago, felt super prepared going in and understood what was happening all the way through.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +6

      Does not surprise me.

  • @goblincamper2004
    @goblincamper2004 Před 5 měsíci +37

    This discussion really brought great insights about the Temple and Endowment. I really like how Todd explains in a way that is understanding and brings it down to the level where everyone can learn. Thank you for the video. We need more of these discussions in our troubled world. The Gospel of Christ is such a blessing in our lives.

    • @carenjennings7744
      @carenjennings7744 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Well...not exactly sure Todd brings it down to my level of understanding, but I am getting some of it - and it is profoundly beautiful and perfect!! A year ago, I would not have been able to understand much of what either man was teaching today. I am deeply appreciative of their decades of intense study and how much they are sharing with us.

    • @shredboise
      @shredboise Před 5 měsíci

      Gotta chuckle by this comment... I was thinking the exact opposite regarding an understandable discussion. I think going too deep too fast and too wide publicly may not be the best. Especially seems to be approaching the doctrines of men... mingled with scripture.

  • @alexostergaard8387
    @alexostergaard8387 Před 5 měsíci +57

    This is the type of conversation that lights my soul on fire. Thank you both for your respective contributions to faith-fostering content. There is nothing more beautiful than the doctrine of Christ.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Agreed!

    • @DianeNims-gg7lf
      @DianeNims-gg7lf Před 5 měsíci +3

      This is my first visit here. The title caught my interest. Wow!
      So much…..
      I can clearly see that my understanding of The Book of Mormon is extremely limited. So this is why we are encouraged to read and study the scriptures all the time.
      I feel like I know nothing.
      Yes, I have received my own blessings of the temple, but, I know nothing! I seek to learn. Does anyone crawl us through this like a baby learning to crawl who hopes to walk some day?
      Where does one begin? I’ll be 80 this year. Will I learn what I need and want to know and understand in this lifetime? I doubt it.

  • @marilynwatene1480
    @marilynwatene1480 Před 5 měsíci +29

    Brilliant! I love these discussions. I wish we did these kind of deep dives in the Gospel Doctrine, (and bring back Gospel Principles for those who are beginners) so that we truly can be educated more fully in the strait and narrow path...But I guess if wishes were horses beggars would ride. I am not the prophet, and the order of things in our lessons are in wise hands. Thank goodness for Cwic Media! (and other helpful sites) so we can spiritually feast on Doctrine. Currently reading the INFINITE ATONEMENT by Callister again, again revisiting the greatness of the gift that was given to us, and aligning my spirit with Christ anew. Highly recommend this book to all.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yes, I agree on that. It's hard because some need milk, and others meet. So we give milk.
      Another option is the Cwic Study Group - www.cwicmedia.com/study-group

    • @lessthanthedust
      @lessthanthedust Před 5 měsíci

      More please!!

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@lessthanthedust check Sunday!

    • @lessthanthedust
      @lessthanthedust Před 5 měsíci

      @@CwicShow I was filled so Sunday is on my radar! Fantastic conversation.

  • @kimberlyclayton9483
    @kimberlyclayton9483 Před 5 měsíci +27

    I appreciate this conversation. I've been in the church my whole life and have never seen all this as you both described. Wow! I'm fed and grateful❤️

  • @kaiudall2583
    @kaiudall2583 Před 5 měsíci +18

    I needed to see this video. Thank you. My testimony has been struggling as I’ve watched academic biblical scholars (Dan Maklelan) attempt to dismantle fundamental truths from a scholarly view. The temple is real. We can come closer to Christ and Heavenly Father by abiding by the principles taught there. As discussed in this video, the priesthood has been on this earth (on and off) for millennia. And the temple is a key portion of that order.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +8

      If you enjoyed this, look for other videos I have done with Val Larsen. Also, I will have a similar video this weekend. The gospel is deep and true!

    • @DoctrineofChrist248
      @DoctrineofChrist248 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Check out all of Todd's stuff on YT. He has done many interviews, and has a channel called Shattering Triangles.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Check out interviews with Dave Butler, and Bruce Porter. Very faith affirming and fascinating.

  • @ThreeD.s
    @ThreeD.s Před 5 měsíci +13

    Wow! I learned a lot! Admittedly some of that was “steak” that I don’t have the right teeth for but in the midst of all that, it hit me how much we communicate by the spirit. Once again, it gave me another reason why we need to read scriptures daily and be in tune with theHoly Ghost ❣️
    And…. there is no way Joseph Smith authored the Book of Mormon!

  • @StephanieAQuinn
    @StephanieAQuinn Před 5 měsíci +8

    I stopped the podcast every 5 min or so to ponder the incredible things you were sharing. needed to digest it all. beautiful explanations

  • @adamb7230
    @adamb7230 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Man, I had been a little confused why the church has been building more and more temples and these temple focused videos that have been popping up make it crystal clear. I can’t even believe all of the connections between Christ, the scriptures, and the temple that have been in plain sight that I’ve never seen. This is truly the work of God on earth.

  • @stormeyholmes267
    @stormeyholmes267 Před 5 měsíci +13

    That was so awesome! I feel so energized all the while my skin is tingling. I am so grateful for you both! I tell you what, I will never pass, if I can help it from speaking with the tongue of angels in the circle while learning the true order of prayer.

  • @bricefsvens5031
    @bricefsvens5031 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I love that you dive into "deep" doctrine, or rather the meaning of doctrine. Growing up I was always told to just worry about the basics. The basics are important no doubt, but I look at it like growing up through grade school. If you ever only study and learn at a 3rd grade level you never truly grow and that education will only sustain you for so long. Thanks again for this amazing conversation.

    • @CMZIEBARTH
      @CMZIEBARTH Před 5 měsíci

      Go to the meat without leaving the milk.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      You got bad advice!

  • @kimberli_d9739
    @kimberli_d9739 Před 5 měsíci +18

    You should do more of these kind of videos! Phenomenal explanation! 🤍

  • @jeffturner5555
    @jeffturner5555 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Please have another discussion with this brother. This has been the best gospel discussion. Thank you Greg!

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci

      You're welcome!

    • @stephanieeastman2791
      @stephanieeastman2791 Před 4 měsíci

      Todd McLaughlin is my favorite. He has his own CZcams channel with a couple of other good guys. It is called shattering triangles.

  • @zikhonampekula6405
    @zikhonampekula6405 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Thanks for this, as someone preparing to go to the temple for my endowments for the first time, it opened my eyes to an extent. Thank you once again. 🌼

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Love hearing that!

    • @SynapticPsycho
      @SynapticPsycho Před 5 měsíci +5

      He that eyes to see and ears to hear... everytime you see that look for the mysteries of God. Aka the mountain/temple initiation. It's a way to speak to some in the presence of others. He that has ears to hear and eyes to see.

    • @Centered1
      @Centered1 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The book Preparing for your Endowment by Cory Jensen is superb to prepare you! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @omacookie
    @omacookie Před 5 měsíci +11

    Fascinating, I wish I understood better, but line upon line! I will need to listen to this again and again! I need more of this.

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I stopped many times during this to write down concepts, thoughts, scripture references. Thank you both! I hope there is more!

  • @andrewmaples6755
    @andrewmaples6755 Před 5 měsíci +3

    What Todd said there at the very end is true, these discussions increase my faith and help me open up the gospel and I'm seeing it everywhere.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Yep, it’s bad advice that says one should stay ignorant.

  • @DiCollard
    @DiCollard Před 5 měsíci +2

    Love love love this! ❤️🙏🏼Thanks so much for enlightening my soul today!
    This guy has so much to teach us! Yes please bring him back! ❤️🙌🏻🔥

  • @taramalan904
    @taramalan904 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I’ve been hoping you two would get together for a discussion for a long time. This was a nice intro and I’m excited for future discussions between y’all.

  • @faymadsen6182
    @faymadsen6182 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This was wonderfully eye & ear opening but too short. So many things to talk about! Looking forward to more of these discussions. Thank you both!!

  • @reppi8742
    @reppi8742 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I listened. My husband is getting ready to listen and then we are listening with our scriptures open and markers ready! Thank you what a great conversational lesson!❤

  • @preparingforzion
    @preparingforzion Před 6 dny

    Thiank you for this insightful discussion! This is the 2nd time I am watching this and learning more

  • @terripontius6257
    @terripontius6257 Před 5 měsíci +4

    This was most enlightening! Thank you, Greg and Todd, for your inspired scholarship and the synergistic way that you taught together.

  • @jmjm4860
    @jmjm4860 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great discussion! Gods plan for his children as it pertains to this life is a book that opens with the fall, and ends with the endowment. What a plan! Despite the struggles he puts us through, I cant imagine a more loving plan.

  • @justmyopinion80
    @justmyopinion80 Před 5 měsíci +50

    IMO, The Temple ordinances are a foreordination for the next life, much like the foreordination that we received prior to being born into this life.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Well said.

    • @RecoveringUGrad
      @RecoveringUGrad Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@HomesliceDrummer
      ​​⁠ it’s actually more than that. Kings and priests are spoken of in the book of revelation and Isaiah. This is something that will happen to those living into the transition of the millennium. We will obtain the fulness of the priesthood (power over the elements etc.). Kings and priests are political and spiritual callings/office. Second anointing etc.

    • @AaronKastellan
      @AaronKastellan Před 5 měsíci +3

      That's the best explanation I've heard. Well said.

    • @carenjennings7744
      @carenjennings7744 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I have never thought of this before. Thank you for sharing. I need to think on this - it is truly a beautiful belief.

    • @JS-ls6ky
      @JS-ls6ky Před 5 měsíci +3

      I have never thought of it this way. However, it makes SO much sense. Thank you for this nugget of truth.

  • @TallPine777
    @TallPine777 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Incredible discussion of truth and doctrine. You provide us with True value that is life altering and I’m speaking personally. Thank you!

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci

      That is so great to hear. Thank you!

  • @denebuxtoo8944
    @denebuxtoo8944 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hi Todd and Greg, thank you guys for this enlightening conversation! Wow! This makes so much more sense about the Temple and how much more we all need to learn about the Power of the Priesthood and the Holy Order of the Son of God! We all, as women and men need to understand the Power we are Endowed with from on High each time we leave the Temple. By the Power of God's Love in our hearts, minds and souls we can literally, each individually lock Satan out of our hearts, minds and souls through Christ and His atoning power, of repentance and forgiveness every day, so that Satan cannot influence us anymore with his negative, dark power. We must all continue to bask in the light of God and learn more and more from God to receive more light and Truth. And trust in God with all of our hearts, minds and souls. If you will look at the Star of David, you see two triangles emerging one with another a Heavenly triangle coming down from Heaven to emerge into an Earthly triangle that is rising up toward Heaven. Here is where Heaven and Earth meet in an eternal Circle, or an eternal round. We have a Heavenly Father merging with an Earthly Mother and family, wanting to be sealed together for time and all eternity. It's just a thought that I have had for many years. 😊

  • @tammigarlick1234
    @tammigarlick1234 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great discussion!! I love this spreading of truth and light! Keep up the good work brothers!

  • @jonathanashcroft8370
    @jonathanashcroft8370 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video Greg. There was so much there and Todd was amazing. Getting into these deep doctrinal discussions is so great and so fun. I learned a lot. I love the different views and angles both you and Todd presented. Another great and important show, thank you.

  • @shanethompson2406
    @shanethompson2406 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Love this channel bro Greg. Normally you raise my BP some. This broadcast just brought me joy! Thanks

  • @RoundyTiffany
    @RoundyTiffany Před 5 měsíci +4

    Beautiful discussion and very enlightening. Thank you so much!!!

  • @azkiwinot
    @azkiwinot Před 5 měsíci +1

    What a treat to see Todd discussing with you today! Sure miss him in AZ. Loved this episode!!

  • @EZ3ChordCountry.
    @EZ3ChordCountry. Před 5 měsíci +8

    I'm gonna have to listen to this again.... and maybe again. I'm mind-blown and aware that I don't understand all of what they are talking about.

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Definitely listen again.

    • @ldsinks1
      @ldsinks1 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Me too! So deep but so good. I need to listen 5 more times

  • @missyhuff4696
    @missyhuff4696 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I would love to hear more about women and the matriarchy. As a woman myself it seems I don’t understand as well as Todd seemed to elude to know, specifically within the temple. I would love to hear more insights and more in depth discussions about the differences between the patriarchy and matriarchy. There’s not a lot of resources where I can turn to get more understanding.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Check out David Butler, Bruce Porter and Margaret Barker.

  • @primafacie5029
    @primafacie5029 Před 4 měsíci

    One of the most profound podcasts I've heard in a while. It's been a long time since I've visited the Temple but your discussion was like fireworks for me.

  • @cindlou7335
    @cindlou7335 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Greg, i always love hearing your thoughts on the temple!! I struggle with guests sometimes... it depends if I've seen them arguing on Facebook pages or anything like that. However, that being said, this was a very interesting episode, and i would like to hear more 😁

  • @texasgal7924
    @texasgal7924 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent conversation, I really got a lot out of it. I had to go back and re-listen to make sure I caught everything. Love your show Greg, very insightful!

  • @RLDRemembrance
    @RLDRemembrance Před 5 měsíci +3

    This was amazing, thank you for sharing!
    All my love your way!
    🙏

  • @marlenegallacher7178
    @marlenegallacher7178 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Thanks for this delicious feast❤

  • @rconger24
    @rconger24 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I remember a YT presentation Brother McLaughlin gave a few years ago and trying to get it all into some notes. I could lay my hand on them in less than 1 minute.

  • @christopheryuen9498
    @christopheryuen9498 Před 5 měsíci +2

    These are the best types of conversations you post.

  • @tinabrady7310
    @tinabrady7310 Před 5 měsíci +2

    When Christ was baptized he was modeling our path back to the father. Again, a pattern. Good job on this one guys!

    • @CMZIEBARTH
      @CMZIEBARTH Před 5 měsíci

      The Lectures on Faith refer to Jesus as the prototype of a saved being.

  • @karlawallentine6596
    @karlawallentine6596 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent conversation, thank you! I’ve enjoyed listening to Todd’s knowledge on “Shattering Triangles” on CZcams.

  • @robynmills5534
    @robynmills5534 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I really like Bruce Porter’s definition of repentance. He says it’s the process of changing one’s character. Pretty much what Greg said. Very interesting video. I felt like it zoomed right over my head many times but still really liked it. I’m going to listen again to see if I catch on a little more.

    • @CMZIEBARTH
      @CMZIEBARTH Před 5 měsíci +1

      President Nelson said similar things. It's about constant improvement.

  • @DFF1234
    @DFF1234 Před 5 měsíci +5

    gratitude helps gain blessings

  • @xrpreacher6000
    @xrpreacher6000 Před 5 měsíci +7

    32:25 I agree with what was said about Lehi and other book of Mormon prophets potentially receiving that Melchizedek priesthood power directly from God. The purpose of the priesthood is ultimately to help us develop the POWER and ATTRIBUTES of Godliness, and an ordination to the priesthood would only be a secondary part of God's program towards helping mankind to obtain that divine goal. Lehi likely didn't need an ordination to obtain the power manifested in the ordinances of the higher priesthood. He was given the ceremonial expression of an understanding to what that power is and how it works through the visions and visitations he had with the Lord and other heavenly messengers. That's why his vision of the Tree of Life we have now seems so representative of the current endowment ceremony and symbolisms to us. It is in the ordinances of the priesthood where the power of godliness is manifest, and obtaining the power through that order is what God's glory in us actually is. We become the seed that sprouts up and grows outward into a new tree of life when we attain to this power. A man may be ordained to the priesthood, and given authorization to it's rites, but that authority is absolutely useless without ultimately developing the POWER it points towards. That power is actually only obtained by individuals who will honor that sacred covenant relationship and responsibility by the accountability of order through God. This also looks a lot like an individual who is willing to experiment upon the actual ability of God's order and hold the actual order up in accountability to the power it can truly wield. We must not only understand that the power exists, but we must know how to use it, and then actually do so. That is how men and women alike have access to that power, and that is the difference between "holding" the priesthood, and actually exercising or wielding the power of it. Priesthood power is the power of God. Same laws and rules that even He abides in. His gift to us is for us to be able to obtain it fully. For many men who "hold" the priesthood, they actually have no idea what to do with that authority, and I would suggest if any man wants to know how to better understand how to obtain and use the actual power of the priesthood, that he look no further than the ways of his wife, or any woman for that matter, who naturally cares for and helps meet the spiritual and temporal needs of others. This is why many women in the church actually have much more power in the priesthood than the men who have been charged and authorized with the responsibility to officiate in and administer the ordinances of the priesthood do, and also why I feel that being ordained is only important as an introduction or initiation into that order for the men. Its my opinion that women truly don't need an ordination to start in on learning that accountability towards God, or to learn how to start developing that power; even from an early age.

  • @stacygodnick3887
    @stacygodnick3887 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The process of true repentance is a gift!

  • @alexburton8376
    @alexburton8376 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great discussion! Keep these coming!

  • @profunditiesfrompops125
    @profunditiesfrompops125 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Thanks Greg, Todd seemed to have a wonderful spirit that accompanied his comments.

  • @stacygodnick3887
    @stacygodnick3887 Před 4 měsíci

    This conversation oozes spiritual knowledge and feelings.

  • @gaynorwells7867
    @gaynorwells7867 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thank you for this.

  • @Rizkid22
    @Rizkid22 Před 5 měsíci

    Love this discussion so much!!

  • @danjohnson8556
    @danjohnson8556 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Good discussion. Much learned and felt.

  • @emh7956
    @emh7956 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Love hearing you two discussing these things. Please have Brother McLauchlin on again and again so that you both can get into this deeper.
    Can't remember where I heard this (Shattering Triangles?) Prayer circle: Christ is in the center of the prayer circle (point of the compass). We see each other differently if we see each other with Christ in the middle of our view of each other (or the person in the circle represents Christ).

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 Před 5 měsíci

      I think that was Brother Dunford speaking of the symbols of circles.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Yes this is the mor ancient understanding from early Christian fathers. The people in the circle also turn their back to the world and dance with their hands.

  • @vincentvos3434
    @vincentvos3434 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Great Show !

  • @StephanieAQuinn
    @StephanieAQuinn Před 5 měsíci +3

    Please have this guest back for more

  • @StephanieAQuinn
    @StephanieAQuinn Před 5 měsíci +1

    loved this!

  • @mmeszmurrized7872
    @mmeszmurrized7872 Před měsícem

    Thank you!! I love your channel.

  • @susannakemp8078
    @susannakemp8078 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Wonderful discussion! How can I find out more about the "second anointing done by women?"

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      She washes the husband’s feet. Very little info on this ordinance out there. This could be a shadow of the matriarchal selection, process of kings in ancient Egypt and with the ancient Hebrews. See Bruce Porter for more information about those ancient Egyptian temple rights.

  • @iliek3102
    @iliek3102 Před 5 měsíci

    Great insights. Profoundly deep. Loved it. TY 🫶

  • @ClintK.
    @ClintK. Před 3 měsíci

    I've always had a huge ? Of what is taking place during the True Order of prayer. This helped a lot in pointing me to learn more about it.

  • @Sejah-iw8fo
    @Sejah-iw8fo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the discussion

  • @Dunlappin
    @Dunlappin Před 4 měsíci +1

    If you want to understand certain elements and symbols of the temple endowment, study the coronation proceedings of kings and queens. It was very enlightening to me and confirmed to me when you said we are "practicing" for the real thing. We get many dress rehearsals as we are in our own process of sanctification to become such. 💡

  • @MsLT62
    @MsLT62 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I loved this teaching and discussion. Thank you!
    Todd also has a great CZcams channel called Shattering Triangles.

  • @stacygodnick3887
    @stacygodnick3887 Před 4 měsíci

    Wow! I learned so much listening to your podcasts!

  • @cwrighty100
    @cwrighty100 Před měsícem

    Just subscribed and love love love the deeper discussions...I am a FamilySearch Missionary leader in the UK. Keep up the good work.

  • @AlecSorensen
    @AlecSorensen Před měsícem

    Wonderful video, the big picture that can easily be lost in the individual stories of Mormon scripture.

  • @stephanieeastman2791
    @stephanieeastman2791 Před 4 měsíci +2

    At the 34 minute mark the second anointing by a woman is mentioned. What are good resources to learn more about that?

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Very little. The wife washes the husbands feet. Could be a shadow of the ancient matriarchal selection process of picking and selecting kings. Also related to coronation rights. Check out Bruce Porter for more information.

  • @RLTNSPDEMA
    @RLTNSPDEMA Před 2 měsíci

    A great discussion! 😊

  • @KB-nv4bl
    @KB-nv4bl Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you Greg and Todd both for a very wonderful content presentation. While I was watching, I had some sudden giggles come to me as I thought about HelloSaints Pastor Jeff, and how confused he would’ve been. Lol. Hopefully he will watch this and learn something.❤❤❤😂

    • @CMZIEBARTH
      @CMZIEBARTH Před 5 měsíci

      Have to allow each person to have their journey.

  • @cindyhills5593
    @cindyhills5593 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent! Thanos to both of you.

  • @scottishhorns4001
    @scottishhorns4001 Před 4 měsíci

    Good discussion I have never thought about the rippling effect of baptism since my mission.

  • @FAITHFUl_FOUNDATION_CHANNEL
    @FAITHFUl_FOUNDATION_CHANNEL Před 4 měsíci +1

    One thing that sticks out to me in 22:30 with the condescending nature and the tree of life is that you must be buried below the ground like a seed to then sprout up high into the air. so condescending referes to the tree in that way

  • @TallPine777
    @TallPine777 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci

      You’re welcome! And thank you!

  • @hollyfield1303
    @hollyfield1303 Před 4 měsíci

    Beautiful 🤩

  • @TubularMag
    @TubularMag Před 5 měsíci +8

    Great discussion, Greg. The DBR thing is new to me, have you covered that in more depth in another video? I have wondered about what Moses 6:7 is calling the Priesthood:
    Moses 6:
    1 And Adam hearkened unto the voice of God, and called upon his sons to repent.
    2 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bare a son, and he called his name Seth. And Adam glorified the name of God; for he said: God hath appointed me another seed, instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
    3 And God revealed himself unto Seth, and he rebelled not, but offered an acceptable sacrifice, like unto his brother Abel. And to him also was born a son, and he called his name Enos.
    4 And then began these men to call upon the name of the Lord, and the Lord blessed them;
    5 And a book of remembrance was kept, in the which was recorded, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration;
    6 And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled.
    7 Now this same Priesthood, which was in the beginning, shall be in the end of the world also.

    • @kaiudall2583
      @kaiudall2583 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That passage seems to be an allegory to eternal families. Priesthood authority being passed on to all generations through righteous living and keeping the commandments which God has revealed to us. But it’s probably deeper than that

    • @CwicShow
      @CwicShow  Před 5 měsíci +3

      This is something I have developed and will be found in my book. Here is an episode touching on it - czcams.com/video/nBHGClSxWOQ/video.html

  • @xrpreacher6000
    @xrpreacher6000 Před 5 měsíci +2

    THIS is what we all need more of! THANK YOU!!!!

  • @jasontucker3295
    @jasontucker3295 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Why do so many LDS teachers act like that brother of Jared experience isn't possible? Moroni wrote it right there. . I heard it again today. No wonder miracles cease because of unbelief.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      The whole earth and everything on it is a greater miracle than a few rocks. People take the miracles all around them for granted.

  • @dcarts5616
    @dcarts5616 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think our current temple ceremony has definitely been dumbed down to keep the wokies who oddly still want to attend happy. The deep stuff though, the spiritual stuff if you will, has at the same time been highly augmented.
    Soon, the temple will be the only place we hear about the order of God, the heavens, family structure and our divinely created two sexes and how sinful it is to mess with it by promoting the satanic counterfeit we’re seeing introduced into our chapels.
    Thank you, to Cwic and your guests, for this stuff. It helps me and my barely hanging on testimony (not so much of God anymore, but in the truthfulness of a restored gospel teaching church) as we struggle with sin, hate, unrepentant evil and ignorance on earth.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem +1

      Many restorations have happened and then head to entropy. It’s literally in all the scriptures. But there are also those who preserve and restore. Like Lehi and Nephi.

  • @toeknee1943
    @toeknee1943 Před měsícem +3

    @CwicShow "What is the tree of life?" - Literally it was the Polar Configuration in the ancient near Earth heavens as seen by the Fathers before the deluge. See Anthony E. Larson - Symbolically yes it is used to convey doctrines and principles as you discuss but understanding the symbols origins is also very important.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Why is it important?

    • @Blahblahblahblah1147
      @Blahblahblahblah1147 Před měsícem

      It's in the Kabbala guys. Every mystery religion has a 'tree of life'.

    • @toeknee1943
      @toeknee1943 Před měsícem +1

      @@phadrus Because if you understand what happened in the beginning you can be prepared for what will happen before the Savior returns. The tribulation events are a type of the creation and will span a generation before the Savior appears and it hasn't started yet. When the sun goes dark will you be ready for the next 20 years?

  • @uniacke
    @uniacke Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think the tree is the ordinance of the resurrection
    The fruit is the convent
    The Angel and the flaming sword represents repentance
    It is only by passing through repentance that we can receive exaltation

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Nephi asks for an explanation of his father’s vision and the tree is more the Devine feminine and the fruit the son. But hey I think you could argue there’s even more symbolism packed in there. God works on many levels at once.

  • @mrsjonse
    @mrsjonse Před 5 měsíci +3

    My current measure of pondering and "distill upon thy soul"... is that the Tree of Life is the Love of God which is Knowledge of all things--the only measure by which Full and Pure Love IS or I AM. To say it is the full presence of the Godhead including Mother is accurate because their full presence is knowledge of all things. That is who They are... and from the point of view of One Eternal Now... it is who we all are too. Knowing all things must include not knowing all things in every degree possible--the very process of line upon line unveiling of Light which Father describes as... "The man has become as one of us, to know good and evil." Adam and Eve are now in the same process Father has been in.. or always IS.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      The tree and the fruit can represent two different but related things, like the Devine feminine and the Son.

  • @rachalemcconner8970
    @rachalemcconner8970 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Brother of Jared's vision of being before the Lord is temple orientation as well.

  • @lukeslc-xd8ds
    @lukeslc-xd8ds Před 4 měsíci +1

    As far as I am concerned, the Tree of Life is our Heavenly Mother.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Or the divine feminine, and the fruit is the son.

  • @lauraolsen9545
    @lauraolsen9545 Před 2 měsíci

    Amazing insights. I wish I could have a private discussion with you two and ask a bunch of questions!

  • @godsoffspring4195
    @godsoffspring4195 Před 5 měsíci +4

    "What is the Tree of Life"?
    On a universal scale, to me the Tree of Life is the symbolic splendor representing the living realities, eternal purpose and spiritual lineage and priesthood order for the everlasting to everlasting Family of GOD. The pure and holy structure of GODKIND from eternity past to the eternities to come and is the continuous posterity of the living GODS compared to a beautiful and glorious living tree of eternal celestial unity and righteousness. It's trunk, nourished by and is, the love of the universal Gods who are rooted in existence from eternity past ... never ending. The tree of Life that will never stop growing. Our heavenly Father and Mother are one of it's many branches and we are their fruit created innocent in their image and likeness and created by them.
    In fact, I couldn't deny the Tree of Live is love and spiritual procreation as well. Without either there would be no such tree ... no living things at all. :>)
    Since the fall of Adam and Eve from innocence into the cloudiness of mortality, at this time, our veiled minds cannot perceive the fullness of it's glory. But our eyes have been opened sufficiently and engrained in our two DNA's... is the ability to learn through the fog the truth of it all because of the partaking from the Tree of Knowledge. Given the choice of choosing good over evil... our Creator(s) loudly hint..... "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"
    In my understanding, translating to... now that we have the ability to know better... will each of us pursue celestial glory?
    That's my story and I'm stick'in to it. LOL
    Thanks for this video Greg and Todd. I'm enjoying it immensely. :>)

  • @FAITHFUl_FOUNDATION_CHANNEL
    @FAITHFUl_FOUNDATION_CHANNEL Před 4 měsíci

    Thats my great uncle todd!!!

  • @tvede1027FML
    @tvede1027FML Před 5 měsíci +5

    Here is a little something to chew on. The word Head as found in Godhead is an old fashioned way of saying hood, like priesthood. So keep that in mind when you're talking about orders, and the priesthood and the other things mentioned here.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Yeah I also think of the old Christian concept of Headship which was recently greatly removed from the temple. The idea that the feminine bring the spirits into the world and the masculine guides them back out. Hence why Eve harkens to Adam. I believe the females veil is connected to this too.

  • @michaelharrisactor
    @michaelharrisactor Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great discussion, but it would really help if you had some illustrations of the principles you are discussing.

    • @jgclarke0352
      @jgclarke0352 Před 4 měsíci

      That would definitely help me keep up

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The Tree of Life = going home!

  • @CMZIEBARTH
    @CMZIEBARTH Před 5 měsíci +1

    Even though it's not deliberated on too much here the point made beginning at 33:55 is super important, and ties in with the New Testament, and flies in the face of the idea that too many have that a man can get to heaven on his own while a woman can only get in with her husband's permission. The reality is practically the opposite. Okay, that's enough for now. Well, I will say that a man can only achieve exaltation if he has become the type of man his wife would want to spend eternity with. There's too much talk of, "My husband is a jerk but the Church tells me I can only get to heaven if I just put up with him." But that is not how it works.
    UPDATE: I see that this gets touched on somewhat later.

  • @DestroyerOfWords
    @DestroyerOfWords Před 4 měsíci

    "It is greater to be trusted than it is to be loved." is what my Mission President used to say.

  • @wendywestern7593
    @wendywestern7593 Před 2 měsíci

    I would LOVE to hear the symbolism of the creation drama. What does the creation tell us about ourselves and why is it a major story in every temple endowment. How can the drama of the creation make a difference in my own life?

  • @dougknighton5348
    @dougknighton5348 Před 5 měsíci +2

    29:05 Have we mastered judgement, mercy and faith to such an extent that now we're delving into realms mysterious? I can't help but wonder if discussions like these are consistent with looking beyond the mark.
    I'm sorry if my comment comes across as arrogant or naive.... maybe even judgemental. I just wonder why we make the simple gospel of love so complex when it is not supposed to be.

    • @DoctrineofChrist248
      @DoctrineofChrist248 Před 5 měsíci

      Hey brother, I understand where you're coming from. The "milk" portion of the Doctrine of Christ is simple - but there is so much meat to enjoy for those who humbly seek. The meat may appear daunting and unnecessarily complex at first, but if we hold fast to the word of Christ it becomes a rich tapestry of the "Doctrines of the Kingdom". Remember, Nephi highly encourages us to seek the mysteries. He laments over our unbelief. The mysteries are not vain secrets, but the truths that lead us back to the Father, Mother, and Son, and to eternal life. The "what" of the Gospel is simple, but the "how" and "why" are rich. Also, mastering "judgement, mercy, and faith" *require* an immersion in the mysterious.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      Do what’s good for you.

  • @jenniferdunn9785
    @jenniferdunn9785 Před 5 měsíci

    Can anyone delve a little into King Noah and the wicked priests? I'm trying to wrap my mind around Lehi, Nephi, Jacob and the Melchizedek priesthood, though this discussion was very helpful. Would you say Alma the Elder had a similar visitation after he left the wicked priests?

    • @awakeandarise6299
      @awakeandarise6299 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yes, we have a record of the promises being given to him in Mosiah 26:
      19 And because thou hast inquired of me concerning the transgressor, thou art blessed.
      20 Thou art my servant; servant; and I covenant with thee that thou shalt have eternal life ; and thou shalt serve me and go forth in my name, and shalt gather together my sheep.
      This is the "oath and covenant" of the priesthood.

  • @curtisdecker3175
    @curtisdecker3175 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This is the widest argument that the others get wrong.
    The first story is the most important in the Bible. To get this story wrong is detrimental to the entire rest of the Bible.
    Mormon theology (I'm lds, convert so i know both)... God created a plan, then created the heaven and the earth.... this is telling us that the plan was for death to come to Adam and Eve.... you all know this and the rest.
    On the side that i converted from though. The theology is that God created the heaven and the earth. Heaven for him. The earth for us to dwell for eternity. And that he did not forsee the serpent deceiving Eve. And they claim that adam and eve wanted to dethrone God. I think we can all see the issues here. Mainly, it's the idea that they claim God to be all knowing, yet he did not know they'd eat from the tree that he placed there and told them to stay away from it because it would bring them death.... they deny that in their story of the fall, they admit that God was not all knowing, if he was and his plan was for them to not eat from the tree, he would've forseen the fall, thus he would've removed it and had no need for the tree of life.
    I have ended many anti mormon arguments by bringing up the fact that their God is not all knowing because he didn't know the serpent would deceive them, and my God knew that we needed death to enter the heaven that he created for us.

  • @cherylb5953
    @cherylb5953 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’ve never heard this level of commentary on endowment before. Wondering if it’s all quite appropriate. Maybe so, but I know this much discussion outside the temple itself, was not common when I received my endowment, or for many many years following.

    • @phadrus
      @phadrus Před měsícem

      There are very few things in the temple that are actually “secret”. However everything is sacred.

  • @lipstillmond
    @lipstillmond Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sorry Greg but I feel like it seemed you invited this guest to hear YOUR ideas and not enough of your guest’s ideas. It’s unusual for you but I thought feedback would keep you continuing being a sharp podcaster. 😊