I found this video very helpful. It’s the only one that seems to address the drawbacks of the models. This vid helped me decide on choosing a 2M Blue stylus for my Pro-ject Pick It Pro cartridge body. What a huge improvement in tracking ability over the supplied Pick It stylus.
@@tirant_blanc the blue stylus is a better tracker than the Pick It from my experience with it. The Pick It was distorting on sibilant recordings, whereas the Blue tracks sibilance perfectly. Also recordings with lots of treble energy were suffering distortion with the Pick It, the Blue has resolved all such issues and sounds refined, yet very clear and detailed. Trying not to sound like a cliche, but the improvement was night and day. The Pick It seemed to create problems with records that I knew didn’t have problems. Honestly buying the 2M Blue stylus is one of the best audio upgrades I’ve ever experienced. I’ve never had a stylus that tracks as well and sounds as good as the Blue.
Please make more videos like this! I love how you discuss what you’re talking about. It’s informational and chill. Would love to hear more about the equipment you use and your musical taste.
Sounds logical to me.. I'll ens upo replacing the stylus on the red with a blue eventually, and keep the red stylus insert for use with older / used records in less pristine condition. Sounds like good reasoning on your opinion. Thanks for the compare.
This is true. They charge more for the plug and play models as you go up through the range also. In terms of mark up the plug and play headshell costs more on the black than on the red. But its the exact same headshell
Paul, this is a nice video. I appreciate your honest opinion no the Otofon 2M series of stylus'. I purchased the Fluance RT 85 which came stock with 2M Blue and absolutely love it. I have thought about moving up to the Bronze but have heard that it needs to be mounted differently from what the RT 85 tone arm can adjust too. So, I will probably just stick with the blue. Thank you again for your video.
Thank you for your comments. Yes, the blue is a good all-rounder. The bronze offers more soundstage separation, but it's a bit of a diva on some records and that spoils it for me.
I got the 2 m red I wanted the naigota np 110 but was $40 more I really wanted it but needed Christmas for kids I love it I also have a monolith turn table that I paid $85 for at a pawn shop using a Yamaha amp that I got for free with jbl speakers I got from a movie theater remodel they were free and I use a 10 channel eq from a pawnshop that was $8 I did get a acrylic mat and a record weight $35 bucks so for my stylist being the most expensive thing I bought for my stereo system it’s awesome but I would love to have a chance to listen to other systems
And although the manufacturer claims that the bronze stylus can only be replaced in the upper segment (black), has anyone tried to put bronze in a blue 2m cartridge? And what are the results?🤔
I have experimented with swapping styli. You can swap the blue and red around and also the bronze and black. But the red and blue have a different cartridge body to the bronze and black, and whilst they fit physically, I find they don't work well in practice I fitted a bronze to a blue cartridge, and it sounded dull and rolled off in the higher frequency. I fitted a blue stylus to the bronze cartridge, and it just sounded edgy, and there was more grain. Didn't like it at all. I concluded there was nothing to be gained at all. Definitely go with Ortofons recommendations on that one
Thanks for this - good to know what’s possible. I have the 2M Black which came with my turntable so I am wondering where I go once I need to replace it. Hmm…
You could step up to moving coil. The high frequency nuanced detail is always something the moving magnets miss a little of. But the black is a lovely neutral cartridge.
I had the Bronze for a few months, ran it on a Thorens with the Rega RB300 arm into a McIntosh MA6200 into some Harbeth speakers. It was way to harsh and digital sounding to my ears. Maybe on a less resolving system it sounds fine by on my set up it was horrible. One or two albums was more then enough ona y given night. I installed the Blue because I was selling the Table and couldn’t believe how much warmer and smooth it sounded. Mixing and matching gear is so crucial. Your ears will tell you. 👍
I found this video very helpful.
It’s the only one that seems to address the drawbacks of the models.
This vid helped me decide on choosing a 2M Blue stylus for my Pro-ject Pick It Pro cartridge body. What a huge improvement in tracking ability over the supplied Pick It stylus.
How would you compare your new Blue with the old Pick it Pro?
@@tirant_blanc the blue stylus is a better tracker than the Pick It from my experience with it.
The Pick It was distorting on sibilant recordings, whereas the Blue tracks sibilance perfectly. Also recordings with lots of treble energy were suffering distortion with the Pick It, the Blue has resolved all such issues and sounds refined, yet very clear and detailed. Trying not to sound like a cliche, but the improvement was night and day.
The Pick It seemed to create problems with records that I knew didn’t have problems.
Honestly buying the 2M Blue stylus is one of the best audio upgrades I’ve ever experienced. I’ve never had a stylus that tracks as well and sounds as good as the Blue.
@@michaelb9664 Amazing! Thanks for your detailled insight. Enjoy!
Please make more videos like this! I love how you discuss what you’re talking about. It’s informational and chill. Would love to hear more about the equipment you use and your musical taste.
Thank you I shall try and make more in the future but I'm not very savvy with the editing etc
@@paulwheatley141 Don't worry about the editing too much. The video was a pleasure.
Great explanation of the 2m series problems.
Paul, thanks a lot! Wish you do more videos on your experience with cartridges and turntables.
Excellent presentation. More content, please. I love hearing the opinions of folks who've actually used the products they review and discuss.
Thanks for the video! I love my 2m blue on my Technics 1200mk2
Interesting. I have the blue so I feel good about that now. My brother has the bronze but it’s a totally different setup than mine. Thanks
I had all 4 and the black is the best and super quite
I also have the black and before with my turntable the red and it really sounds a lot better than the red :-)
Thank you, great video!
Sounds logical to me.. I'll ens upo replacing the stylus on the red with a blue eventually, and keep the red stylus insert for use with older / used records in less pristine condition. Sounds like good reasoning on your opinion. Thanks for the compare.
Ortofons pricing is crazy as well the price jump is outrageous .Blue is as high as ill ever go .
This is true.
They charge more for the plug and play models as you go up through the range also. In terms of mark up the plug and play headshell costs more on the black than on the red. But its the exact same headshell
@@paulwheatley141that is sad. I never noticed
Paul, this is a nice video. I appreciate your honest opinion no the Otofon 2M series of stylus'. I purchased the Fluance RT 85 which came stock with 2M Blue and absolutely love it. I have thought about moving up to the Bronze but have heard that it needs to be mounted differently from what the RT 85 tone arm can adjust too. So, I will probably just stick with the blue. Thank you again for your video.
Thank you for your comments.
Yes, the blue is a good all-rounder.
The bronze offers more soundstage separation, but it's a bit of a diva on some records and that spoils it for me.
You can put a bronze on the 85. I did and it sounds great. I also have the ATVM95SH. they are great.
You can put a Bronze on theb85 and it sounds awesome. I also have a ATVM95SH as well. They both rock but for an all arounder the blue is hard to beat.
I got the 2 m red I wanted the naigota np 110 but was $40 more I really wanted it but needed Christmas for kids I love it I also have a monolith turn table that I paid $85 for at a pawn shop using a Yamaha amp that I got for free with jbl speakers I got from a movie theater remodel they were free and I use a 10 channel eq from a pawnshop that was $8 I did get a acrylic mat and a record weight $35 bucks so for my stylist being the most expensive thing I bought for my stereo system it’s awesome but I would love to have a chance to listen to other systems
And although the manufacturer claims that the bronze stylus can only be replaced in the upper segment (black), has anyone tried to put bronze in a blue 2m cartridge? And what are the results?🤔
I have experimented with swapping styli. You can swap the blue and red around and also the bronze and black. But the red and blue have a different cartridge body to the bronze and black, and whilst they fit physically, I find they don't work well in practice
I fitted a bronze to a blue cartridge, and it sounded dull and rolled off in the higher frequency. I fitted a blue stylus to the bronze cartridge, and it just sounded edgy, and there was more grain. Didn't like it at all. I concluded there was nothing to be gained at all. Definitely go with Ortofons recommendations on that one
Interesting stuff 👍
Thanks for this - good to know what’s possible. I have the 2M Black which came with my turntable so I am wondering where I go once I need to replace it. Hmm…
2m black lvb 250
You could step up to moving coil. The high frequency nuanced detail is always something the moving magnets miss a little of. But the black is a lovely neutral cartridge.
I had the Bronze for a few months, ran it on a Thorens with the Rega RB300 arm into a McIntosh MA6200 into some Harbeth speakers. It was way to harsh and digital sounding to my ears. Maybe on a less resolving system it sounds fine by on my set up it was horrible. One or two albums was more then enough ona y given night. I installed the Blue because I was selling the Table and couldn’t believe how much warmer and smooth it sounded. Mixing and matching gear is so crucial. Your ears will tell you. 👍
Crazy, I love the bronze. Though I feel the blue is the best for the buck
I am inclined to think nude is always better than bonded.
@@cmkilcullen8176 I agree