10 Most Evil Versions Of Batman

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  • @dendroxden440
    @dendroxden440 Před 2 lety +386

    I have to disagree with how you said they created too many versions of evil Batman. Batman is a character that is on the verge of insanity. If they introduced the Multiverse, it's easy to believe that he became a villian in quite a few of them

    • @supermutant963
      @supermutant963 Před 2 lety +18

      Just like OwlMan, every decision doesn't matter because there's infinite possibilities.

    • @crazyquinlan
      @crazyquinlan Před 2 lety +17

      I think Batman is insane. This is the reason he will not kill the Joker, and the joker will not kill him. They give each other purpose.

    • @ZayToDiffrent
      @ZayToDiffrent Před 2 lety +21

      @@crazyquinlan Batman is just as insane as joker but he isn’t evil if that makes sense

    • @crazyquinlan
      @crazyquinlan Před 2 lety +8

      @@ZayToDiffrent What is evil? Killing is not inherently evil. I think it depends on the reasoning. Batman can kill the joker without it being classified as evil.

    • @Motivation_snack6668
      @Motivation_snack6668 Před 2 lety +5

      @@crazyquinlan killing is still a sin, therefore considered evil. It's better to save all of them, then kill one to save the rest.

  • @just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you

    *The Batman Who Laughs invades
    Alfred: Haha, shotgun goes bang bang bang

  • @joshuariddensdale2126
    @joshuariddensdale2126 Před 2 lety +355

    As bad as Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley) was as Batman, you have to admit that his costume was awesome.

    • @briargeorge1054
      @briargeorge1054 Před 2 lety +6

      Oh yea absolutely

    • @nickjurr4706
      @nickjurr4706 Před 2 lety +4

      Nah it was pretty bad.

    • @andreboyd8596
      @andreboyd8596 Před 2 lety

      He had the best custom!!!! still to this day I don't know another Batman costume that was better they need to make a movie with him in it

    • @nickjurr4706
      @nickjurr4706 Před 2 lety +1

      @@andreboyd8596 Terry suit in BMB is way brtter imo

    • @marvinpineda1982
      @marvinpineda1982 Před 2 lety +3

      That’s a negative here sir.

  • @youtubestaffaretrash9258
    @youtubestaffaretrash9258 Před 2 lety +164

    The most evil Batman by far, is his other universe version Owlman, he was going to destroy existence, and everyone in it, and in every interation of it. Simply because other universes existed it made his existence inconsequential. We are bit flesh and bone and we fade from existence over time, if anything the true meaning of our existence is to be inconsequential.

    • @crwansaunt6441
      @crwansaunt6441 Před 2 lety +4

      I don't know the batman who laughs aka the darkest knight is pretty evil

    • @youtubestaffaretrash9258
      @youtubestaffaretrash9258 Před 2 lety +7

      @@crwansaunt6441 wipping out existence is as evil as evil gets, you are killing everyone everything, technically even time.

    • @nolan4826
      @nolan4826 Před 2 lety +8

      @CZcams staff are trash well Batman who laughs was going to practically torture everyone which is worse then just dying. Well that’s what I got from the comics atleast

    • @youtubestaffaretrash9258
      @youtubestaffaretrash9258 Před 2 lety +2

      What do people not get about non existence everything, literally everything not just hear but in the universe is gone yes you feel nothing but it's all of existence, that's beyond anything.

    • @tomriddel8657
      @tomriddel8657 Před 2 lety +9

      @@youtubestaffaretrash9258 I think you missed a lot of The Batman who laughs Story specificaly the part were the entire multiverse got erased because of him. And yes it did actually get erased

  • @josephstalin9139
    @josephstalin9139 Před 2 lety +216

    The Grim Knight deserves to be on this list.

    • @fxman9071
      @fxman9071 Před 2 lety +11

      As well as omega

    • @luke.2005
      @luke.2005 Před 2 lety +6

      Yeh grim knight is awesome and is definitely more evil then most on this list.

    • @mrpurple2
      @mrpurple2 Před 2 lety +2

      That's why I unsub cause they try but suck at comics

    • @mrpurple2
      @mrpurple2 Před 2 lety +2

      How can u not have him on the list

    • @jaytonjarman9799
      @jaytonjarman9799 Před 2 lety +2

      @@fxman9071 that’s what I was thinking

  • @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
    @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Před 2 lety +199

    This is great. An evil Batman list.

  • @Morningstar_95
    @Morningstar_95 Před 2 lety +109

    "Aside from the version you all know is coming" Batman who laughs all the way

    • @Xervna
      @Xervna Před rokem +1

      I was looking for this comment to make sure it was him.

  • @calebmufcthompson
    @calebmufcthompson Před 2 lety +8

    the evil versions of Batman are much more formidable than any other evil super hero variants, Batman is a scary prospect as a villain

  • @sadvec6328
    @sadvec6328 Před 2 lety +85

    Mentions almost all of the dark knights
    The Drowned: *Sad fish noises*

    • @l0tf00tg5
      @l0tf00tg5 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s a girl

    • @Jesse-75-80
      @Jesse-75-80 Před 2 lety +2

      @@l0tf00tg5 and?

    • @l0tf00tg5
      @l0tf00tg5 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jesse-75-80 And the video is about all the evil versions of Bruce Wayne
      Dumbass

    • @Jesse-75-80
      @Jesse-75-80 Před 2 lety +2

      @@l0tf00tg5 they are Bruce Wayne just a female, dumbass

    • @Jesse-75-80
      @Jesse-75-80 Před 2 lety +3

      @@l0tf00tg5 honestly, I didn't even know who the drowned was but one simple google search shows bryce wayne (Earth-11) the y must just be a female equivalent of Bruce which means they are Bruce Wayne

  • @rubiscubis6803
    @rubiscubis6803 Před 2 lety +25

    how to win:
    step 1: walk up to batman who laughs
    step 2: use gun

    • @jarianharris8240
      @jarianharris8240 Před 2 lety +2

      Step 3 keep firing until he stops moving

    • @therealninja5658
      @therealninja5658 Před 2 lety

      Step 4 run out of bullets but u managed to shoot him once or twice

    • @beanbtw6063
      @beanbtw6063 Před 2 lety

      Batman has fought multiple people with lethal weapons, BWL has all the skills as Bruce Wayne so that wouldn't work

  • @rhen4short
    @rhen4short Před 2 lety +2

    10:04 This is why I love watching a WhatCulture video with Jules.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před 2 lety +16

    Ah the devastator such a interesting evil batman that basically turned my boy's Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy's mother Lois into a Doomsday monster.

  • @DaveTzuchilla
    @DaveTzuchilla Před rokem +2

    Great explanation of each version. Side note thanks for being clear, articlute and properly pronounced.

  • @wickideazy
    @wickideazy Před 2 lety +11

    Batman:Vampyre is a terrific story. It goes off the rails a bit near the end, but it's still really good.
    TO DEATH...IN PEACE.

  • @jalenfunches2833
    @jalenfunches2833 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for the ending really needed to hear that great video

  • @deadpoolrockz6410
    @deadpoolrockz6410 Před 2 lety +12

    A lot have shown up in the good Dark Knights Metal mini series and the pretty bad Dark Knights Death Metal series.

  • @SolidShepard
    @SolidShepard Před 2 lety +12

    i always liked the JL movie with owlman trying to destroy all universes at the end but batman stops him...but i never realized it was his older brother under the mask. it would have made it even better if they had explored that connection a little bit.

    • @SpeedyCheetahCub
      @SpeedyCheetahCub Před rokem +2

      In the movie the origin of Owlman is different than the Owlman they were talking about in this video.

  • @TheMixedMan
    @TheMixedMan Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this video. I think I needed to see this tonight.

  • @tjjohnson1675
    @tjjohnson1675 Před 2 lety +70

    I’m
    A fan of the grim knight Batman the concept of Batman using lethal force and owning Wayne enterprise as a weapon company is horrifying and the fact that he can kill you without having to lay a hand hack your phone or even your smart car

    • @x_saiko_x6372
      @x_saiko_x6372 Před 2 lety +5

      I was REALLY surprised that of all the Metal versions of Batman, this one didn't make the list.

    • @tjjohnson1675
      @tjjohnson1675 Před 2 lety +3

      @@x_saiko_x6372 well he second dangerous Batman right next to the grim knight and than again he had only a brief appearance in Batman who laughs when he was sent to kill the warden at Arkham so Batman who laughs can kill joker he even set mr freeze on fire not killing him and was sent to capture Jim Gordon

    • @jarianharris8240
      @jarianharris8240 Před 2 lety

      Say whaaaaat??

  • @jamesianhutchison1165
    @jamesianhutchison1165 Před 2 lety +7

    The Batman Who Laughs is awesome but I can't look at him without seeing Judge Death. Honourable mention. Can't remember the name of the story (it's an Elseworld) but the one where the Waynes find Kal-El. After their death he becomes a *very* nasty Batman.

  • @Ben82077
    @Ben82077 Před 2 lety +25

    Thomas Wayne, “Batman”. Not exactly evil, but not exactly good either. He just killed if he didn’t get the information from his interrogations or ended up killing anyone after getting the information-or just straight up shot someone in a fight with pistols or his barehands. I’d say he was more of the “Neutral” Batman.

  • @stevescollectibles3460
    @stevescollectibles3460 Před 2 lety +10

    Awesome list! Can’t get enough Batman!

  • @the_priest_of_holy_moon_cult

    Thanks for that message Jules your awesome man!

    • @bacht4799
      @bacht4799 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s so nice of him.. he doesn’t have to do it but maybe I naive here but he really wants people who watching this video feeling good about themselves.. like he has a little Mr Rogers or Bob Ross in him who remember how nice and great that feeling is too be positive and healthy and believe in good in yourself and another’s …

  • @abnwil3873
    @abnwil3873 Před 2 lety +1

    That last message warmed my heart

  • @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
    @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Před 2 lety +14

    The Vampire Batman comic book universe could be great as an ongoing else world story. It seems like one of DC's more compelling Elsewhere stories as far as Batman goes and maybe even in DC in general.

  • @TampasHotwheels
    @TampasHotwheels Před 2 lety

    Awesome video my friend 👍😁

  • @williamdiego7218
    @williamdiego7218 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video!

  • @drizzy9126
    @drizzy9126 Před 2 lety +3

    Jules: Super encouraging message.
    Me: Holy moley, I can flyyyyeeeee!!!!

  • @Barison
    @Barison Před 2 lety +2

    Graham Nolan's art is just superb. Give him, Scott Hanna and Alan Grant a title right now, DC.

  • @jarianharris8240
    @jarianharris8240 Před 2 lety

    Wow!! Great list! Very interesting! I was a little worried that Owlman wouldn't make the cut but then bam number 2! The Murder Machine and Red Death seem the most intriguing. I gotta read those stories.

  • @hungry_shadow1745
    @hungry_shadow1745 Před 2 lety +54

    I was about to say if he didn't put batman who laughs first he's gonna get hella dislikes from comic book fans

  • @j.dmetalhead7517
    @j.dmetalhead7517 Před 2 lety +4

    The Batman who laughs bears a remarkable resemblance to Judge Death from 200AD

  • @hewhobattles8869
    @hewhobattles8869 Před 2 lety +4

    Imagine one day you wake up and there's 10 evil Batmen on one side and 10 evil Supermen on the other, you're in the middle,and they both are in a heated team battle because they want your skin and head.
    Would you be more terrified and just hope the kill each other before they kill you or would you just be amazed and grateful you get to see such an awesome battle?

  • @crimsonbutterfly2282
    @crimsonbutterfly2282 Před 2 lety +2

    The Red Death is absolutely horrifying, poor Barry! 😨😨😨

  • @ancientthundercast
    @ancientthundercast Před 2 lety +2

    theirs also a mongul type Batman that dc made and so on as well that named that Mongul type Batman as Warbat and many others including the Batman Who Frags which is a Lobo type Batman

    • @jarianharris8240
      @jarianharris8240 Před 2 lety

      The Batman Who Frags lol

    • @ancientthundercast
      @ancientthundercast Před 2 lety

      yeah he’s got Batman’s cowl not the cape he smokes has the chain and guns for weapons that’s the Batman Who Frags another is called Collector that’s a Brainiac Batman theirs more of Batman like that these three are of the dark multiverse same as Red Death and Merciless

  • @V_0777
    @V_0777 Před 2 lety +4

    Red Death has the best design. I love it

    • @jarianharris8240
      @jarianharris8240 Před 2 lety

      He really does. Love how they combined the bat with the bolt. Brilliant!

  • @JackLoyal93
    @JackLoyal93 Před 2 lety +4

    I've got to say, that I really did like the intermediate version of the Batman suite before the transition in to the B.W.L. was completed.

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 Před rokem

    I enjoy this video a lot. DC comics have done a lot to those iconic characters

  • @billysmith5409
    @billysmith5409 Před 2 lety +3

    Jules you are awesome!

  • @avclub2456
    @avclub2456 Před 2 lety +3

    Red death my favorite 👌🏼🔥

  • @wintahillvillen6174
    @wintahillvillen6174 Před 2 lety +3

    The Batman who laughs is just awesome!! I'd love 2 see Metal come to the screen! It would be such a big story,all the characters. DC could make a trilogy (at least)If it was done right it could be the most interesting,cool, and amazing story to come from any comic book story!!🤘🔥🖤🦇

    • @dot9662
      @dot9662 Před rokem

      Even an animated film abt metal would be hella awesome !

  • @roxypop4274
    @roxypop4274 Před 2 lety +9

    the little motivational bits at the ends of these are always so nice to hear, especially at the end of a long day. also, i loved the part where u called nazis idiots

  • @cryofpaine
    @cryofpaine Před 2 lety +1

    There's also a version of Batman from the Dark Multiverse that is a version of Hush. Locked away in Arkham for years, he becomes a monster and eventually takes revenge on the people who put him there.

  • @germancortes3781
    @germancortes3781 Před 4 měsíci

    nicE, so many good stories..why this is not animated [some sort of what if?] or maybe in a film?

  • @U7OrionOmniSSJ
    @U7OrionOmniSSJ Před 3 měsíci +1

    My Top 5 Favorite Evil Batmen From The Dark Multiverse:
    1. The Murder Machine
    2. The Devastator
    3. The Grim Knight
    4. The Red Death
    5. The Merciless

  • @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
    @MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Před 2 lety +23

    The Azrael costume is great. It would probably be better in black.

  • @kylep306
    @kylep306 Před 2 lety

    I like the Azrael Bat armor. Sure it was goofy with the spikes but it was full of really fun toys.

  • @amithabh6526
    @amithabh6526 Před 2 lety +1

    Big fan sir

  • @jorgegfigueroa9755
    @jorgegfigueroa9755 Před 2 lety +2

    Flashpoint Batman/Thomas Wayne is the most evil version after being the "I am Bane" storyline. Primarily being partly responsible for Alfred's death

  • @md_htr
    @md_htr Před 2 lety

    The red death outfit is a banger

  • @Dawn_Of_Justice
    @Dawn_Of_Justice Před 2 lety +1

    Batman Vs Owlman was the best part of that animated film.

  • @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers
    @All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers Před 2 lety +1

    Ah yes, the perfect WC video, we've found it gang

  • @nandinhocunha440
    @nandinhocunha440 Před 2 lety

    They should do all the dark batman movies

  • @mechayeti9476
    @mechayeti9476 Před 2 lety

    I am just glad Owlman, leatherwing, and Vampire Bat are on the list.

  • @xj9jennywakeman709
    @xj9jennywakeman709 Před 2 lety +2

    I love Azreal's 90s costume 🤬

  • @jaketaller8567
    @jaketaller8567 Před 2 lety

    The Drowned: Am I a joke to you?!
    Aquaman: No, that’s what I am.

  • @noahgaming8833
    @noahgaming8833 Před 2 lety

    I like how devestator from earth negative one is from earth -1, which may mean he is the least evil of the group.

  • @JaeDooks
    @JaeDooks Před 2 lety

    Came for evil Batmen, left lifted by Jules’ words

  • @joerogers2660
    @joerogers2660 Před 2 lety

    You know that Dark Knight Metal is DARK when it makes Zur-En-Arrh seem tame.

  • @prabhavravitammanashastri2378

    There are many more
    1. Omega ( Last Knight on Earth)
    2. Grim Knight ( Punisher Batman)
    3. Russian Batman (Red Sun Superman)
    4. Batman who Frags ( Lobo + Batman)
    5. Mobius Chair Batman

  • @akidajasper6545
    @akidajasper6545 Před 2 lety +2

    The Batman who laughs was so dope….at first.

    • @thunderstudent
      @thunderstudent Před 2 lety

      Yeah he soon outstayed his welcome after becoming an outright villain-Stu.

  • @jdhdkehev8715
    @jdhdkehev8715 Před 2 lety

    Someone knows where I can read some comics online? Or do I have to pay for them? Where do I buy them tho I want to start reading comics cause it looks wild

  • @amccall88
    @amccall88 Před 2 lety

    I was hoping this wouldn't just be a rundown of the Knightmare Batmen....

  • @kylebeauly1693
    @kylebeauly1693 Před 2 lety

    What was that comic that owlman appeared in?

  • @connorwilliams5785
    @connorwilliams5785 Před rokem +1

    Before Jason Todd dug himself out of the grave to discover his leather fetsih

  • @tiendungle2465
    @tiendungle2465 Před 2 lety +2

    can someone tell me is these Moon Knight meme picture real cause i don’t read a lot of comics so i don’t know. These meme pictures i’m talking about is the one that he hacked the Avengers headquarters to dues Dracula just to find out he’s not an Avengers or the one that he standing on a white hover boards pretending to be The Silver Surfers and tell Spider Man to give him his wallet or he will destroy earth

  • @lonelyplacetobe4393
    @lonelyplacetobe4393 Před 2 lety +1

    What if they made a movie for an evil Batman and the good batman goes up against him

  • @cramirez3855
    @cramirez3855 Před 2 lety

    Jez is a great life coach

  • @theassleschap.4240
    @theassleschap.4240 Před 2 lety

    9:26
    NO MORALS?!?
    you know darn well joker would never screw with the IRS!!

  • @lordschnitzel7961
    @lordschnitzel7961 Před 2 lety +4

    The most evil Batman is „the Darkest Knight“

    • @dimaudalow
      @dimaudalow Před rokem

      Not exactly a separate version of Batman, it's Batman Who Laughs getting the body with Dr. Manhattan's powers.

  • @jamesvanitas
    @jamesvanitas Před 2 lety +2

    Knew The Batman Who Laughs was #1

  • @tompatchak8706
    @tompatchak8706 Před 2 lety

    I came here for Jules’s words. I needed a bump.

  • @inyalgaico1563
    @inyalgaico1563 Před 2 lety

    Personally though a great list im dissapointed you did not mention the grim knight

  • @TheJoker-kg7nt
    @TheJoker-kg7nt Před 2 lety +1

    I wish I was in one of those worlds we would be good friends

  • @yuritzenpresents3113
    @yuritzenpresents3113 Před 2 lety +1

    In every conceivable reality, across time and space of the Multiverse, only one stigma remains:
    B-Man always wins.

  • @darkzangetzu005
    @darkzangetzu005 Před 2 lety

    Gotta add Omega that Batman was utterly broken by the world he though was worth protecting.

  • @KasaiWolf07
    @KasaiWolf07 Před 2 lety

    *sees title* Im gonna assume it's 10 Batman from the dark multiverse.

  • @adamm.6595
    @adamm.6595 Před 2 lety +1

    I just want to see a properly done movie of the Batman Who Laughs...

  • @RedDeadDevilTrigger
    @RedDeadDevilTrigger Před 2 lety

    The Batman who laughs also became like a dark god

  • @maxbanh
    @maxbanh Před rokem

    My favorite multiverse Batman is Owlman but to me it doesnt matter how many batmen their are in the multiverse because their are different versions.

  • @lj45551
    @lj45551 Před 2 lety +1

    What about The Drowned?

  • @user-kl3us9bw3u
    @user-kl3us9bw3u Před 2 lety

    In all likelihood, it's more believable for Batman to have a mental breakdown than Super Man. Childhood trauma vs being raised by loving parents.

  • @KathyXie
    @KathyXie Před 2 lety +1

    Omega from Last Knight on Earth should be here, the Batman from Dark Multiverse: Knightfall and King Robin, while not technically Batman he is a still Bruce Wayne

    • @brandonmaddox4862
      @brandonmaddox4862 Před rokem

      I would’ve loved to see The Drowned on here, that was one of my favorite Dark Multiverse Batmans

  • @moodystew690
    @moodystew690 Před 2 lety

    The second i saw the title ooh I wonder what's number 1

  • @stilllovebrig2693
    @stilllovebrig2693 Před rokem +1

    I'm waiting for the Batman who laughs to appear in a video game

    • @HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap
      @HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap Před rokem

      Closest thing we currently have, is a BWL costume for Noob Saibot in MK11.

  • @kevinkunkel9444
    @kevinkunkel9444 Před 2 lety +2

    Red Death did attempt to redeem himself.

    • @dollmaker6599
      @dollmaker6599 Před 2 lety

      Wasn’t that Barry’s persona? Since Red Death itself was mostly just Bruce, with Barry being a prisoner inside the body, so not exactly redemption.

    • @kevinkunkel9444
      @kevinkunkel9444 Před 2 lety

      @@dollmaker6599 Barry was nothing more than a passenger. He had no control over anything Red Death did or said. The best he could do was act as a conscience to Bruce Wayne. Thus all of Red Death's actions fall on Bruce's shoulders. In the end Bruce attempted to redeem himself. Barry was just along for the ride.

    • @dollmaker6599
      @dollmaker6599 Před 2 lety

      @@kevinkunkel9444 If I recall didn’t the Batman persona ended up erased and Barry regained control of his body before he ended up getting killed.

    • @kevinkunkel9444
      @kevinkunkel9444 Před 2 lety

      @@dollmaker6599 If I recall at one point Bruce actually listened to Barry. That was the moment he tried to redeem himself.

    • @dollmaker6599
      @dollmaker6599 Před 2 lety

      @@kevinkunkel9444 um idk, I just remember that Batman got erased and Barry gained control of the body, I also think that he turned gold for whatever reason, but died shortly after.

  • @cb_prod
    @cb_prod Před 2 lety +1

    Hi what culture

  • @splattygaming1615
    @splattygaming1615 Před 2 lety

    Surprised it wasn't every Nightmare Batman.

  • @chechibatta5673
    @chechibatta5673 Před 2 lety +1

    The dark knights darkest incarnations

  • @Scp--pg7fg
    @Scp--pg7fg Před 2 lety

    Oh when i see the title ik the batman who laugh is here

  • @imthethriller
    @imthethriller Před 2 lety

    Number 0 Crazy Steve AKA. Frank Miller's Batman from Allstar Batman and Robin.

  • @mr.mimikyu2342
    @mr.mimikyu2342 Před 2 lety

    Devastator can actually turn into Bruce or Devastator at will

  • @michaelrooney3133
    @michaelrooney3133 Před 2 lety

    I'm offended you didn't include Omega Batman.

  • @MrHelicx
    @MrHelicx Před 2 lety

    There many new batman list like this 10-2 are always different but the #1 is always Consist and it yet to be proven wrong lol

  • @eddienerphy5788
    @eddienerphy5788 Před rokem

    As if you didn't mention Owlmans attempt to destroy existence by blowing up world 0.

  • @bruced6543
    @bruced6543 Před 2 lety

    How does the Batman who Laughs see? It looks like his eyes are covered

  • @adventarchivist5789
    @adventarchivist5789 Před 2 lety

    Doesn't seem fair to put Leatherwing on the list when readers don't know anything about him. I'm shocked that Grim Knight didn't take his place, since he has way more pagetime and dubbed by the Batman who laughs himself as "The Most Dangerous Batman..."

  • @galladegamerletsplays
    @galladegamerletsplays Před 2 lety

    2:54
    earth...
    negative one...

  • @iseight9748
    @iseight9748 Před 2 lety

    Batman who laughs is litteraly the joker who had all of batman's things and a visor

  • @brokenhiveling
    @brokenhiveling Před 2 lety

    Didnt Azrael kinda kill the serial killer Abbatoir? So he also broke Batmans biggest rule