WASTED Potential of Good Moves and Abilities on Bad Pokémon
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- In this video, I uncover the wasted potential where good moves and abilities were given to bad Pokémon. If these Pokémon had better stats, typing, or movepool, they would probably see a lot more use.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Volt Tackle on Raichu
1:44 - Tail Glow on Illumise
2:53 - Triple Arrows on Hisuian Decidueye
4:00 - Hyper Drill on Dudunsparce
4:41 - Revival Blessing not on Smeargle
6:05 - Merciless on Toxapex
7:04 - Anger Shell on Klawf
8:18 - Outro
For lore reasons Ho-Oh should have been given Revival Blessing. It literally resurrected Suicune, Raikou and Entei from the Burned Tower.
and while we're at it, give giratina trick room. its lore literally talks about how it can twist dimensions and it doesnt have the move that, you know, TWISTS DIMENSIONS
@@lillyieEither Dialga or Giratina could have everyone’s favourite Theorymon: Trick Room Ability
Revival Blessing on Hooh makes a lot more sense than on Pawmot
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@@waitingfortheequinnoxsuch an interesting concept, in practice HORRIFICALLY unbalanced
These aren't wasted potential; they're redeeming qualities
Say it louder for the people in the back
The only thing is, a lot of these just aren't redeeming enough.
Or are things like Merciless on Toxapex.
The only ones as redeeming qualities are volt tackle on pikachu with light ball, anger shell on clawf and even thats kinda iffy and prankster on illumise since it can actually use it to some potential. Everything else is a complete or near complete waste on the pokemon
This is unironically good mental advice
That’s a nice way of looking at it!
I genuinely think giving many physcial Electric mons Zing Zap would make it a go-to STAB option. The flinch chance doesn't hurt, either.
Based although if they do they should buff wild charge to 100 base power
so wait game freak made a good move and didn't give it to much pokemon? again? what a shock
@@KanderUdon Nah it should be buffed to the same base power to flare blitz
Or even bring back Zippy Zap and give that to more mons, 50 BP priority physical electric move that always crits
@@brandonsulyak5019 i understand why but GF clearly doesn’t want to
Smeargle not being able to use revival blessing is the biggest tragedy here. I was so excited to use it before it was released
Aerodactyl's Rock Head ability is a complete waste. Despite being a Rock/Flying-type Pokémon, it's unable to learn the Flying-type Brave Bird or the Rock-type Head Smash. What can it learn? Take Down. Not even Double-edge, unless you transfer it up from the GBA.
I have heard that Stakeout would be a really good ability to have on a good mon
what does it do? i saw the trump looking pokemon get this ability.. does it boost the power of moves during night?
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866if you switch out in front of a Pokémon with this ability, that Pokémon will have his next offensive move's power double if i remember correctly
What if Game Freak upgraded Volt Tackle into a base power 150 move, and turned Wild Charge into the 120 move?
I'm not saying that would improve Pikachu or even Raichu, but it would finally give the other Electric types something to use.
been saying this forever. it jus makes sense
youd think theyd do this by now considering how they love pikachu
Something tells me they will increase the power of volt tackle and intentionally leave off the wild charge.
I think what might be a good video after this is maybe Pokemon who are solely carried competitively by their abilities/movepools (also first because I have to)
I was thinking of doing this, but many content creators have already made videos like this that I don’t know what else I could add
Put Merciless & Baneful Bunker on a good special attacking Poison/Dragon type Pokemon, and even with something like 110 Special Attack it will become a top performing sweeper. Always crit Draco Meteor is amazing.
Surprisingly, Druddigon is a perfect candidate for this. A regional form variant could pull this off!
What about dragalgae
I love how Pokémon fans are still upset that the goofy joke Pokémon got a goofy joke evolution
Yes. Giving dunsparce a cool evolution would ruin the whole point of him
Dunsparce's whole existence was a joke? Damn.
@@TheHeavieKiwieSorry bro.
Like I get it, it could be a dragon.
But its a Tsuchinoko, theyre kinda known for being goobers
You forgot Luxray when mentioning physical electric types.
Nothing is saving Luxray.
Luxray is already overrated despite being garbage. Don't give people fuel to think it's actually worth something
it is strange to think in gen 4.... dppt... luxray's best physical electric type move is the first best physical electric type move it learns..... spark.. thunder fang has the same power but 95% accuracy and it's flinch chance is not worth it..... wild charge should been 120 base power but less recoil damage then volt tackle
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 You can't ask it to be a literally better version of the mascot's signature move.
@@1stCallipostle then give volt tackle to everyone.... or my idea.. you can pick....
I am here for Volbeat praise and acknowledgement. You are doing the lord's work by bringing Volbeat's predicament to the public eye. He deserves better.
Thanks
If you want utter frustration and disappointment, have a look at delibird. One or two great abilities and one of the deepest and flexible move pools all tied to some of the worst stats this side of spidops.
I'm sorry, but Iron Hands getting Volt Tackle sounds like an absolute nightmare. I hope it NEVER gets that move.
How about the fact that in Gen 7, Fire Lash was the signature move of Heatmor. GEN SEVEN!! They gave a GEN FIVE mon a new signature move in GEN SEVEN... Then in Gen 8, they gave it to... Salazzle and Centiskorch, who are both also kinda mid...
For reference, Fire Lash is the single strongest physical fire move that doesn't have drawbacks, and they only gave it to a weird anteater, a burning centipede, and a special attacking salamander...
Salazzle also learns
@@Henry-nt1jd Salazzle didn't get it until Gen 8. It was Heatmor exclusive in Gen 7.
At least Temper Flare exists now.... I guess.
Well, what other Fire types have whip-like body parts to attack with? Heatmor has it's flaming tongue, Salazzle is literally based on a *whip-tail* lizard, and Centiskorch is both a long bendy centipede and has an extendible fire moustache.
@AztecCroc Since when has game freak cared about this? Diglett learns aerial ace and scratch despite not having claws, and wooper learns ice punch despite not having fists.
If you see Volbeat and baton pass isn't banned, you should be afraid. Someone is about to get a +3 special attack boost.
Imagine if Klawf had a signature Rock move! Maybe something like...
*Rock Pinch*
100 Pow, 100 Acc, Phys-Contact
30% Chance to Flinch
Combined with Anger Shell the flinch chance would be a real menace. It would basically be a Rock Crab version of Clabhammer. Which is definitely reasonable
I have a different idea:
*Rock Cutter*
80 Power, 100 Acc, Phys-Contact, Slicing
10% flinch, 10% defense drop
also not a signature move, making it a signature move would be mean to the other rock types that desperately need a good accurate rock-type move
Rock cutter sounds like copying stone edge but you don't want the teacher to catch you cheating on homework xd
@@quorryraphael9980 stone edge isn't affected by the Sharpness ability so it's totally different
@@Psychomaniac14 the naming is very similar and that's what is funny
@@Psychomaniac14 What other Rock types? Only other Rock types I can think of that would learn something like that are Kleavor and Armaldo.
I wish toxicroak got merciless just to help it stand out
An ability I think it's a wasted potential is compound eyes, perfectly accurate hydro pump, stone edge, fire blast and making focus blast, thunder, Hurricane, and so on, usable!
I mean Vivillon did Compound Eyes Hurricane shenanigans and Galvantula did the same with Thunder. The only other fully evolved Pokemon who get Compound Eyes are Butterfree and Dustox.
…Wasn’t Raichu good in VGC until recently, at least in restricted formats? It has higher than 1 percent appearances in top 8s from USUMs release, so it shouldn’t be considered bad. Hell, Wolfey explicitly called it a good mon.
Of course, VGC Raichu doesn’t fucking use volt tackle, so it’s definitely wasted on it but in a different way.
Like, it’s not the best but it’s definitely FAR better than the average fully evolved mon.
Definitely a weird choice for a first example.
Raichu is an example of good moves on bad pokemon, but it's because of the collection of good utility moves including the event move Endeavor.
you said nothing the video didnt say...
raichu's entire purpose was to draw in thunders to protect primal kyogre, and now that primals and megas are gone...
Anyone who says dudunsparce is a disappointment missed the whole point 🙃🙃
While I agree that Dundunsparce is extremely fitting and I do not find it to be a disappointment… I can definitely see why some people are disappointed given how long they waited for a Dunsparce evolution.
@@greenmcbean6429jaded old heads are the only people disappointed
I mean GF was never going to match the expectation set, so Dudunsparce might as well become a comedy masterpiece
or alternatively, gamefreak is a lousy company that doesnt give a shit about its fans (see pawmot line for reference)
or alternatively, gamefreak is a lousy company that doesnt care about its fans or the design of the games/pokemon themselves (see pawmot line for reference)
Isn't the whole point of "good moves/abilities on bad pokemon" that you balance things out and make some bad pokemon viable (e.g. Murkrow, Amoongus)?
Well yes but sometimes good moves or ability are on bad Pokémon that can’t use them well or inversely there are Pokémon that probably would be good if they had better moves or a useful ability.
@@ninjakirby777 the reality is with 1000+ pokemon there is no way they can all be good. And since Gen 1, it's never been the intention to do this. Gen 1 had some bad pokemon with interesting moves (Hyper/Super Fang on Raticate, Spore on Parasect, Twin Needle on Beedrill)
In a non-competitive context (I.e. solo gaming) these moves and abilities on mediocre pokemon will give you some reason to use them. Or if you like a pokemon due to design then you can get something unique or interesting to do with them.
In a competitive context, it's harder but as I said it's not uncommon for these pokemon to find use. And while not intended, it has allowed for the tiered play we see in Smogon or other formats like draft league or random battles
@vandelay33 Most people aren't expecting all 1000+ Pokemon to be OU or VGC viable. But Game Freak could 1) at least try to update the obviously powercrept stats of older mons in a more impactful way than occasional +10s (boosting up what are literally just raw numbers in the code across all Gen IV and prior mons should not be a decade+ long endeavor), and 2) not pull things like giving the physically leaning Volbeat a signature move that only boosts its pitiful Sp. Atk. It _already_ has enough going against it.
For a gauge on just how bad Tail Glow on Volbeat is, in Gen 3, Tail Glow only boosted Sp. Atk by +2 instead of the current +3. Swords Dance was its physical counterpart, and was already widely distributed and given to mons like Heracross, Scizor, and Pinsir. Not Volbeat, though, since it already had Tail Glow.
Amoongus is a bad example.
It's bad otherwise BECAUSE it's built to be a spore machine.
Amoongus ain't bad. Regenerator and spore make it a popular pick. Stats are bulky enough to make it survive well
Bibarel has a great typing, and THREE extremely powerful abilities. And nothing else.
Another great move on a bad Pokémon is Gigaton Hammer, the signature move of the Tinkaton Evolutionary Line.
Clocking in at a monstrous *160 BP* with the drawback of being unable to be used twice in a row, you would think that this Steel Type move would be distributed to the likes of Metagross or Scizor.
Unfortunately, it's stuck to Tinkaton, who has nothing going for it save for its typing.
Consider that signature moves are likely only exclusive for the game they arrive in. It’s likely in Gen 10 it’ll get distributed.
tinkaton isn't that bad, it's just not an attacker
@@door-chan It attacks my sensibilities since Corvinknight was my favorite gen 8 Pokémon and now I got some pink demon who can’t even beat Corvinknight in game and its natural predator.
@@crylec6534 skill issue tbh
@@door-chan yeah legit skill issue
Ho-Oh and Xerneas should have Revival Blessing.
I have once again been reminded that viable Physical Electric types are surprisingly common and have been mistreated SEVERAL TIMES by SIGNATURE MOVES.
I’m still salty that Ampharos doesn’t have Tail Glow (or Illumise, who could make more use of it than Volbeat)
Agreed. I hate when pokemon don't get abilities and moves that would make so much sense lorewise on them
Illumise doesn't have the light.
Would Revival Blessing have been good on Iron Hands? That was one of the best Pokemon for quite a while, and RB would make sense on it since it has the same design gimmick as Pawmot of having defibrillator palms. Maybe the move could've seen usage then.
do not
I want to add something about revival blessing, as there is indeed another way to use it more than once per fight.
I once saw a video about this strategy, but you can use a Pokémon, usually Rabska cause it’s tankier, with Rest, then Sleep Talk to select Revival blessing to use it regardless of PP. it probably could’ve worked on Smeargle, though it’s bulk would be called to the test.
I just wanted to say there’s a way without a Leppa berry, is all
That got patched out pretty quickly after it got popular
@@Subatomicfish It did not actually. You're thinking of the Assist thing on Smogon.
Not that this necessarily changes anything you said about revival blessing (in most normal cicrcumstances), but I highly recommend checking out Elo Bandit's video on Revive Cats, one of the funniest yet most cancerous gimmicks that terrorized and basically shut down nat dex AG.
My take for this topic is Mega Absol- It desperately needed a good ability to compliment its high attack + SD stab sucker punch and, well, it got an AMAZING ability in magic bounce... except there is 0 synergy between magic bounce and everything mega absol actually wants to be doing. Rare case of great offensive potential and great defense/utility potential both being wasted in the same Pokemon.
The bad thing about triple arrows is like, volt tackle works on any physical electric mon, Hyper drill makes sense on any pokemon that already has drill moves... what other pokemon could use arrows other than decidueye
I mean it doesn't technically have to be arrows per say maybe even pokemon that use scales like kommo-o or spikes or shooting sharp petals in a way just to be more flexible on who can get it in a way.
@@kevinumana3582 It is explictly arrows, it's called Triple *Arrows* and there are arrows in the animation.
Dudunsparce > disppointing
Ph boy someone missed the point of the joke pokemon getting a joke evolution again
Also for hidden abilities for toxapex and salazzle, just swap them. Merciless on salazzle would be hilarious. And corrosion on to apex to spread handful bunker poison everywhere.
Have you covered mechanics you’d like to be taken from PLA yet? Frostbite, turn-limited boosts, and the one this video brought to mind: wild charge and some other electric moves causing a Pokémon to be roused from drowsiness. I thought that was pretty cool and was pretty disappointed to learn that was actually the first game that was true in and it didn’t get brought over to SV. I’m not sure I have the knowledge to say if it would still be barely used or if it’d be completely broken, so I’d be happy to hear your thoughts.
It would be a massive nerf to Electric types.
@@AztecCroc it would be a massive nerf to electric types for Pokémon using spark and wild charge to be able to wake themselves up from sleep?
I feel like Ivy Cudgel - Rock is kinda wasted. Not Ogerpon Cornerstone is bad per se just if you're using Cornerstone you're not using the other Ogerpons which are much more used so more accurate stone edge just kinda sits around
You mean one of the only accurate physical rock moves in the game? From what I’ve seen and heard, it’s actually gotten more popular this regulation because of the added value of Sturdy being built in better focus sash
With klawf ability anger shell i normally have hold white herb whenever i use it for battles
Still gotta say anticipation for me is the worst ability, I’d rather have a hindering ability then to let the opponent know I’m weak to them, other than that it does nothing (and forewarn is just a better anticipation)
Pawmot doesn't need Volt Tackle. Iron Fist allows Thunder Punch to be a reliable STAB move and there's Double Shock which is also boosted by Iron Fist.
Double Shock is not boosted by Iron Fist.
@@AztecCroc Yeah looked it up not long after. Still T Punch is good for Pawmot and Double Shock is good for non Iron Fist
One dumb defense I hear for Dudunsparce is to _"have a sense of humor"_ about it.
I ain't laughing.
The Yo-Kai Watch series has its own tsuchinoko named Noko and they gave that cute guy at LEAST 20 forms based on its line INCLUDING a huge hulking dragon form (look up 蛇王軍ツチノコ and you will see what I mean).
Compare that design to Noko to what Game Freak did with Dudunsparce.
Now THAT is what I call comedy.
Shadow Side Tsuchinoko is both A) Essentially a regional form and B) Also a joke, all Shadowside Yokai are edgy evil looking version of the base Yokai.
i always end up basically using my pawmot as a fighting type that can use nuzzle.... give my boy a good physical electric move
Iron Fist boosted Thunder Punch.
Hisuian Decidueye is legit my favorite grass-type, so it hurts to see how bad he really is 😔
I think Klawf would be better if he could learn shell smash on top of his ability anger shell. In a single turn you get +3 to speed and attack if your opponent hit you below 50%.
Honestly i wished gamefreak spread more of type of abilities and moves on pokemon that could use it much better.
Uh, Pikachu lines are mostly Sp. Atkers, right? Volt Tackel is Physical?
Pikachu has higher attack (55) than special attack (50), while Raichu has 90 in both. Pichu even has higher attack (40) than special attack (35). The Pikachu line are mixed attackers, skewed slightly towards physical
For what it's worth, Dundunsparce is excellent in draft league
not related to the vid but why does scraggy get dragon dance but not garchomp when one is a child and the other is a dragon type land shark
Smeargle not getting Revival Blessing is definitely because of ReviveCats cheesing NatDexAG into oblivion.
so... the same problem that occurred with Dive is now occurring with Revival Blessing... sounds like a simple fix, just do what they did to Dive in gen 6 to Revival Blessing in gen 10
@@Psychomaniac14 Except Assist doesn't actually exist anymore, there is no game where ReviveCats could have legitimately have happened.
@@AztecCroc well if a game where both existed DID exist then it'd be a simple fix
It's kinda funny they have Revive move to spider and Pikaclone but not to any other Healer Pokémon.
Rabsca is a scarab beetle, not a spider.
@@AztecCroc Cool
Calling them wasted goes against the beneficial points these pokemon have. Taking those abilities and moves and giving them to better pokemon takes away the uniqueness they have. Still, cool video idea
As dumb as it sounds but Lightball should half work on all Electric Pouch Pokemon and give its full effect to Pichu and Raichu.
Does ditto get 5 PP on revival blessing?
Nope, only 1. Current PP cannot exceed max PP.
Bibarel has 2 great abilities and moody, BROKEN. Decent move pool but abismal base stats, thank god kkkkk
It also has a solid TYPING
The biggest wasted potential is Incineroar, it should have MORE useful status moves like trick room, will-o-wisp, and revival blessing
Incineroar actually does get Will-O-Wisp. Always has in fact.
@@AztecCroc I thought it did but didn’t feel like looking it up before posting
Volbeat and Illumise are the ugliest pokemon, just after Kriketune. What in gods name were they thinking making these god awful bugs, it seems like GameFreak just hates the bug type altogether
why is it that volbeat, a physical attacker.. learns tail glow.. a move that drastically raises special attack when illumise (ill-ew--me--zay) a special attacker cant? also why didn't most hoenn dark type pokemon learn crunch by level up?
Mightyena and Sharpedo do. Shiftry and Crawdaunt aren't exactly gonna bite. Cacturne doesn't even have a mouth, just holes.
well there any better? they di not give them night slash so better give them crunch
Anger shell is just a fail outright.. cause if the enemy runs a piority move you can kiss those stats good bye
Volbeet and Illumise are glorified??
I think dynamax/Gmax was wasted potential. Yeah pokemon but big isn't very interesting on its own but if more pokemon got unique gmax forms I think it could've been cool
Wait... toxic with a poison Mon has 100% accuracy??
More than that, it can't miss at all even if the target is using Fly or other such moves.
@AztecCroc that's crazy. What gen did this start?
@@BenD_Bass Gen 6
Oh pawmot because he can defib
Bro thinks an offensive stat slightly above 100 "isn't good enough"
Correct
It's true unfortunately. That's powercreep for you
Imma say sketch maybe?
Firstly dudunsparce is peak and secondly I wouldn’t say these are wasted at all. Like not every mon has to be good and these moves and abilities are great additions to the mons that get them.
i think electric not getting any consistent physical move is neat, keeps electric to a level of nicheness, similar to fighting or psychic as it's still one of the best types
i dont think dudunsparce is disapointing, suits his useless silly pokemon status after people were hyped for him to get an awesome evolution for nearly 25 years, other mons have already filled the awesome evolution on a useless/jokemon
4:01 I'm a dunsparce fan since before gen 9, and I gotta tell you, Dudunsparce is peak Pokemon design. In my book Dunsparce was already peak Pokemon design, and I was afraid of it just changing too much if it evolved, so the only way to surpass peak is by doubling it! Dudunsparce is easily the best thing to come out of SV in my opinion, I'm not hating on SV, I personally really like it and it's pokemons.
Disliked it before even watching.
It's not about "wasted potential", it's about "giving those bad pokemon a reason to exist by having an unique niche". If we had another pokemon with Tail Glow and Baton Pass, why would people use Volbeat?
Want me to give an example using good pokemon? Dragon/Flying type. We have Salamence, who has Intimidate and a good mixed set. We have Dragonite, who keeps getting better tools every generation (Extreme Speed, Multiscale, etc). And we have Altaria, which is... bad. Except Altaria is the most used Dragon/Flying in the competitive GBA era when legendaries are allowed, because of the move Pursuit (which no other Dragon/Flying has), allowing it to remove opposing Deoxys from other teams. If Dragonite or Salamence had it, Altaria would never be used...
Dudunsparce is a du-disappointment. 😢
Du-Du-disagreement
"Dudunsparce was a bad evolution" massive L take. Just because you didnt get a giant badass dragon doesnt mean it was a bad evolution. It is entirely YOUR fault for gaslighting yourself into turning Dunsparce into a completely different pokemon than it actually is. Dudunsparce is a very fitting evolution and actually makes sense with the pokemon.
Swobat has simple AND stab stored power