UK teachers told they do NOT have to address pupils by chosen pronouns
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Teachers in England have been told they do not have to address pupils in their chosen pronouns under new government guidance on how best to support transgender students. Journalist and author, Helen Joyce, discusses a new draft document released by the Department of Education.
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It's about time. Teachers are supposed to teach facts, NOT encourage fantasies.
Exactly.
Bloody right! Teach absolutes, not woke crap.
This pronoun nonsense needs to stop.
Define a what a Woman is perfectly? Then a Man? Then tell me why you’re a Man not a Woman? THEN you can say changing of one pronoun is wrong. BTW saying Pronoun is bs is kinda dumb cause Pronouns are basic feature of English Language
@@ToodyslexicforyouGrow up, we aren’t playing your infantile games
A man is an adult male. A women is an adult female. A boy is a male child and or teen. A girl is a female child and or teen. Pronouns relating to males is He, him, his. For females it's She, her, hers. And to describe someone in a conversation or describing, or a group, you say they, them, their, theirs. A male is someone with XY, larger bone density and muscle mass, different skeletal structure, bigger brains, dominant, less emotional and fragile physically and mentally, male sexual organs (can't become pregnant). A female is someone with XX, smaller bone density and muscle mass, different skeletal structure (predominantly during puberty and indeed after takes shape to hold a baby), smaller brains, less dominant (more submissive in nature), more emotional and fragile physically and mentally, female sexual organs (can become pregnant). This is what we learnt in school, and for some kids who are still in school are currently learning. It's basic science and nature that spans across every other species as well as ourselves.
Pronouns today as what we see are all made up fantasies, because due to technology, social media etc., kids today are more spoilt, and were predominantly brought up by parents who gave their kids computers and ipads instead of being proper parents and looking after and teaching their children. Social media has caused people to be more self indulgent, attention seeking, and narcissistic. People today making up pronouns, genders, sexualities. Majority of people are addicted to the internet, social media, and pornography. All of which has fried peoples braincells, limited our attention spans, and weakening our productivity. There's no such thing has transgender, nonbinary, pansexual, genderqueer, and others probably currently being made up as we speak. And all the nonsensical ze/zer xe/xer made up pronouns.
That is what's wrong with society. The world was a much happier and less mentally ill place before this nonsense. And it will return to that state very soon. People are starting to wake up from this pathetic behaviour. @@Toodyslexicforyou
@@Toodyslexicforyou’What is a Woman’ and ‘What is a Man’ should be one of the Easiest Most Obvious Answerable Questions in the World and 20 Years ago everyone would have been able to answer that! What is Woman? Easy! A Woman is an Adult Female Human Being! And A Man is an Adult Male Human Being! The Word Woman is defined by Biological Sex and so is a Man! Not this new stupid meaning of Gender!
@@Toodyslexicforyouman = xy chromosome, woman = xx chromosomes. There you go.
Does this mean that teachers that were sacked get compensated for loss of earnings and the people that were criminalized get compensated too?
Like the Irish teacher whom I believe is in prison indefinitely as he “ refuses to purge his contempt “ whatever that is.
Or the guy who not only has been sacked but BARRED from working with Children! - even though the kid was 17 and she wanted to be identified as a him .. I am SO glad my kids are home schooled!
Good point!
Why adults want to be around children as a career needs psychological evaluation from the outset. A very strict vetting of adults we dare hand over responsibility too during school hours is overwhelmingly needed.
@@Julieoscar1Enoch Burke is from the Republic of Ireland. That’s not part of the UK, so his is irrelevant to this story
I'm a Dutch teacher for 12- to 16-year-olds in the Netherlands. What I see in my classrooms, the pupils themselves are already fed up with the 'woke' agenda, gender fluidity, trans activism, and other trans ideology. In fact, these pupils have made a hard turn to the (political) right, where all these issues are mentioned as 'left-wing hobbies'.
Yeah, it isn't supported in the school I teach in anywhere near as much as generation Z's reputation would suggest. We need to work out who are the genuine (tiny minority of) trans students as opposed to those who are just following a fad.
Well it is incredibly tedious 🥱
Teachers are not mental health practitioners.They train to teach subjects. Enough of this pronouns nonsense.
Glad to see people are standing up to the idiocy ✊
Agree with you apart from the communist fist
"History The history of the raised fist, a global symbol of fighting oppression The forceful salute is intertwined with some of the 20th century's most tumultuous events"
@@i_wouldprefer_not_to1196
Ok buddy. ☭☭☭@@i_wouldprefer_not_to1196
As a gay dude we need an alphabetic divorce, because being bound together in the same acronym makes it look like all the other letters are co-signing on what the T is doing.
I think there is an argument to be made that each letter of that acronym should be their own thing. And to call it a "community" is a disgusting misuse of the word. It implies everyone who identifies as one of the letters are on the same page regarding "queer issues" and that is just utter nonsense.
They are, even if some of you aren't. Own it.
@@XY-dd5nzmost gay people hate it trust me. Its the media making it look worse, all as planned... agenda 2030
@@XY-dd5nz Why should the majority of gay people living in the suburbs who have nothing to do with what the TQ+ people are doing own anything other than our own actions.
@@XY-dd5nzsorry, nope they're different- gay people do not focus on their sexuality as if it is the entirety of who they are. Own that.
Trans and child should never have appeared in the same sentence to begin with. It is outrageous that anyone could allow this to happen to children who could not possibly understand the full implications. It's child abuse and no school should help this to happen.
If you want your son to use the girls locker room... tough sh1t. You aren't the only one in the world. Other parents have a right for their daughters to get changed in privacy and safety without your deviant son gawping at them.
The fact that any parent would think their teenage son should have the right to change with the girls in their locker rooms clearly shows that they shouldn't be parent in the first place.
What absolute nonsense, the far right Christians seem to have you over a barrel
It's butchery of a child
@@user-ut7bs9cf6u even youth and young adults, they get cheated too... no one can change their sex.... there are adults who got mutilated too and then regret it...
@user-ut7bs9cf6u
Issue is not just with THAT individual.
As a former teenage boy, I can tell you that the last place you want a teenage boy is around naked teenage girls.
Not even the "OMG he's gonna rape them!!!" aspect.
If you allow teenage boys a view of an abundance of naked teenage girls bodies, that is
A: Likely to drive the thought that they are an unhappy trans kid deeper into their psyche.
B: Allow them to view female bodies with such little regard because they have always been there.
It shouldn’t be guidance. It should be against the law for teachers to enable children to change their sex.
I agree but (in reality) it’s all imaginary. Sex change surgery, by definition, has a 100% failure rate. You can’t change sex.
I'd say it's more the parents responsibility. They're the enablers. The teachers are the ones having to suffer it... why impose some potential sanction on teachers for being thrust into that kind of situation? Bringing a human into this world is no small task and yet too many people do not TRULY rise to the challenge of real parenting. Saying 'No' is sometimes a part of that parenting.
@@pippalewisNYC
Of course the parents should take the bull by the horns and say no but, until they say no in numbers, they are at risk of either being ignored or having to take their children out of school. Parents and likeminded teachers should push against this nonsense together.
@@pippalewisNYC When parents go into schools and tell them they do not want this crap taught to their kids, they are lied to by the activist teachers, who are already teaching it. So I would say it is the governments responsibility to get it out of schools and sack any activist teachers.
So your saying that the state should have control over somone actions. Isn’t that Authoritarianism 😂😂
Who are these faceless people who are pushing these issues,they should be named and made to answer for for their actions
Agree they should be named and shamed.
The “faceless” people behind these issues are an organisation known as Stonewall, an LGBTQ organisation, part funded by you, the taxpayer! I have nothing against lesbians or gays ( we have lesbians and gays in our extended family). Teachers who promote trans ideology to school kids, encouraged by Stonewall, should take heed of what Pink Floyd said in that classic song “ Another brick in the wall”. To quote; Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!
It's just the damn ongoing and predictable effect of the societal pendulum swinging to the left.
It's a matter of a ideological movement gaining momentum with a large enough group of people of various social standings backing it up, hence why you have teachers, doctors, localizers, developers, merchants, parents and because of it, some politicians too (contrary to the paranoid belief that politicans are just forcing their ideas on others, what they primarly do, is pick an already ongoing ideology that a large group of people already follows, to guarantee a larger voting poll) etc. backing it up. Thankfully, the pendulum already peaked and is now going back to the normalized middle.
That said.. since the pendulum is never-ending, it won't stop in the middle, but it will go to the opposite extreme (the far-right), where people will get more oppressed by default. The pendulum always swings from full on anarchy/chaos (far left), to full on oppression/control (far right) with the best periods being somewhere in the middle.
Sadly, we're too egocentric to form a new ideology that is based on the best parts of both ends.
People will be people 🤷♂
@@joycecutner5413
In USA, the medical
profession is a money-
making business 😢.
Imho, " going trans"
would cost a huge
amount of money, and
make long term
psychological problems.
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Teachers should just concentrate on turning out people that are equipped to go out into the world & get a job. Leave all the woke BS to others.
They have to do what they are told to do from above.
@@mrmeldrew693 which should be to just concentrate on turning out people that are equipped to go out into the world & get a job. Meaning, things should be changed at that upper level.
Teachers aren't teachers anymore.
As a non-woke teacher, I approve of this broadcast.
@@iamdragonettatoo Woke is postmodern identity Marxism. The term is overused, but certainly not meaningless. Identity politics is corrosive to a society, and that certainly applies to wokeism.
Seeing how some "woke" people respond to an opinion they don't agree with, I suspect that they are the bullies.@@iamdragonettatoo
Have you noticed that it is overwhelmingly girls who want to be boys rather than 50-50?
Stonewall and Mermaids both need permanently shutting down. Utter disgrace the pair of them.
Stonewall's a very shady organization. Good to see Helen is on it as usual. She speaks so clearly and rationally.
I agree, look what they've done to everything they touch, which is almost all the services that the tax payer contributes to, so why shouldn't the ppl have a say, it's not upto an outside organisation to do so, not forgetting its our children, not SWs, I'm shocked it's even gotten to this.
It started as a good organisation, dealing with AIDS patients their care and civil rights, but was taken over by the Trans lobby.
No only Stonewall, Tavistock (not split into tow hubs and the same staff retained) and the ever sinister 'Love not Hate'. All these groups that are essentially fully if not partially tax payer funded
@@FindThisArtistStonewall is an extremely powerful organisation with fingers stretching throughout the western world. It’s a creeping, pervasive cancer. The Tavistock is one of its tentacles.
Stonewall and government departments following their dogma need to be taken to task legally .
Stonewall needs to be defunded !
The fact that we need to argue this stuff shows just how far we have let our culture slip into insanity.
It's time pupils respected teachers again, not the other way round.
It worked quite well like that.
The pathetic part of this is that it is a shock when you hear someone making a sane decision.
And what about all the teachers that have been sacked when they were right all along?
People who think we should go on their so-called pronounce should be named and shamed
I see what you did there pro-nounce❤
You do realise Pronouns are a basic feature of English Grammer thus can’t get rid of them also define a Women perfectly so YOU know that YOUR NOT A WOMAN???? Come on do it
@Toodyslexicforyou what are you talking about? Clearly, you've missed the point in my post. I'm educated enough so I don't need a lesson, thanks. It's this simple: there are two genders, and you are whatever you're born as. There's no sex change, we are not clown fish, and my posts says nothing of the sort or of the opposite. I won't be explaining my point. If you can't see it, then you can't see it.
@@Mostwanted19797 thumbs up for mentioning the clown fish 👍
@@Mostwanted19797perfect response. I’m impressed that you could resist reacting to the horrible grammar in a comment spewing on about grammar. 🤣 I couldn’t have resisted 😂
Fed up with it all
Most teachers think Its a load of bs anyway.
Really? If the teachers who have signed up to this woke nonsense are in a minority then they are making a lot of noise.
That's not our experience. I think if this was true, then it never would have got into the classroom in the first place.
@@jaaguitar you underestimate the effect of labelling those who disagree, "bigots" and seeing others who disagree being fired.
I believe most teachers are happy for this change. Also, what role, if any, do teachers play in writing school policy in the UK?
Imagine trying to remember the ‘preferred pronouns’ of 30 plus students - would there be time for any actual teaching?
And they change with their mood. It seems it would be impossible
While kids in England and America learn in school and universities that there's 100 different genders kids in Asia and other continent's learn subjects and become very intelligent no wonder most companies want foreign people to work for them
School was always hard enough to navigate socially without all this insanity. I'm so glad none of this existed in my day. I knew of 2 gay pupils, one of which might have been considered ultra feminine. He tried living as a woman and it was a disaster emotionally for him. He simply wasn't a woman a NO amount of pretending was ever going to work.
Thank you Helen your a star
Well done! It’s about time the “wokeness” was addressed accordingly
We should be focusing on good quality childcare so that parents can work; on supporting women and men who are abused; on schools teaching children what schools should teach. This insanity is...insane! It needs to be stoped. Poor children, being used and abused by adults who are out of their minds.
About ruddy time, talking sense at last.
The fact this is even a question shows how sick society has become and how sick some, like Stonewall, would like it to be.
Thinks the agenda will carry on in schools and be covered up by those with their own agenda .
These faceless bureaucrats are out of control and we the people must stop them at all costs
And in Ireland?
Still arresting teachers?
The whole thing with the pronoun trend is that people are so ordinary they want to be different and special. It’s all a big show. If people were actually called what they are the word “ dickhead “ would be outlawed. 🤣👍
This lady is incredibly clear and concise. Easy to understand the neutral realities. Great interview both in questions, answers and allowing the lady to talk. Superb.
On the quiet the bill says you would be breaking sat laws if your entertaining a child's gender without parental knowledge# grooming if you are a teacher.
Someone needs to be held to account for doing this to our kids and parents need to sue schools who have inflicted this transgederism starting with stonewall.
Well done. I hope this is introduced here in Australia.
Meanwhile, in my state in the U.S., if a child runs away because their parent doesn't want them to transition the state will place them in third party care and not let the parent know where their child is. The assumption that every parent who has concerns about child transition is a bigot rather than just worried about future fertility and health is an abomination. The UK is decades ahead of many US states.
what state is that?
It’s also child abuse by the state and abuse of the highest order towards the loving parent. Governments have NO place in sexualising children or removing the rights of parents.
@@bentrafford6592 California and oregon at least, if not more
Fun fact.. this was pushed in Europe prior to the states. This is a good sign, however.
And they put your kid in a home with trans foster parents. 😑 thankfully few states in the US have reached this level of toxic leftism but a few have, like California and Oregon. I lived in both those dumpster-fire states. 👎
Well done Kemi ❤
Finally, a voice of truth and reason.
Great news for the UK. Congratulations to the teachers!
Very well done Helen Joyce
Huge win for reality and truth.
Teachers need to address children by their legal names only, period
It should be this way. Leave it up to Human beings to figure out amongst themselves. Government stay out of it. The vast majority of people have no issue with a simple act of I’ll address you how ever you want, doesn’t matter to me. The biggest affront is to criminalize thought and expression
This sounds like a bit more common sense in a strange and crazy world. A step in the right direction 🇬🇧🇬🇧
I like they way the schools have pressed the ideal that "bullying is never to be tolerated" purely to protect the people that have being using Bullying as their #1 Go Too! as soon as they don't get their childish way!
A LINE IN THE SAND HAS BEEN DRAWN! One step for common sense and one leap against the Tranarchy
How refreshing to see something done right.
I was a Tom boy who wanted all the privileges my brothers were given as boys. I am glad trans did not exist back then. No one messed with my head. As an adult, I discovered my feminine nature. I love being a wife to my partner and a mother to my children and have a good career.
Teachers no longer have to misuse Pronouns but they are at Liberty to use any chosen Adjectives when addressing the Childs Parents.
How did we get here when this is even a possibility???
People are fed up with this crap and are fighting back
The Teacher must decide how to address pupils. When I was at school I and my fellow students were addressed by our surnames.
Stuff pronouns not interested
SOOOO VERY GLAD to hear this. I'm in the US and have no kids or grandkids in school any longer but I sincerely hope this same type of common sense legislation ( if you will) comes to education here as well. Thank you for this info
Amen!
Why is America ALWAYS behind the ball, when logic & facts are at stake????
Hurray for UK!
Unfortunately the common sense doesn’t apply to the universities and to the education departments recruitment staff.
I’m glad this came about. In the past they ideology was pushed through parents and teachers talking about these subjects making it seem like if you are trans, non binary ect than you are special and every child wants to feel special, but the thing is affirming this is so dangerous to a child’s emotional state, they become depressed and confused. So confirming their delusions is worse than saying no.
They don't have to doesn't mean don't. It needs to be stopped immediately. Get the rot out of schools.
A trickle of sense in this western river of madness
❤Helen Joyce❤
Just call pupils by their surname as they won't change that.
This is how low we've sunk when this is even considered
yes. love guidance. It literally guides my life. Where would we be without guidance.
Thank God !
We desperately need teachers, not the wanky activists we have these day's! 🤦🏼♂️
this needs to be enforced in scotland too. its f,cked up here!
Thank you Helen for all you are doing.
The problem is it is mostly the teachers pushing this..
Sanity finally!
Why on earth would it even be a thing
It's about time, common sense has come back, let's hope it takes wing and flies around the world.
This is wonderful! Sanity at last!!
Never should have tolerated this nonsense to begin with!!!
Here we go, the ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWYZ group. It's getting beyond crazy 🤪
Stonewalls have ears so beware. What a wonderful society both them and Mermaid and their wretched gaggle of lawyers are giving us. Stoking up a climate of fear, cancellation, dismissal, mutual loathing and the terrible prospect of adult regret over irreversible disfigurement decided in those very confusing teenage years.
How many children have been harmed in the 6 years they’ve prevaricated!?
Unfortunately in reality it takes time, it’s a real achievement to get this through at all with all the money pushing against it
Kemi is such a legend. We owe her so much. She wrote me a message once!
Yet a guy got sacked on the SAME day that this was put out!!!! He did just this!
It shouldn't have even got to this stage! Many folk have gone mad over last few years.
This should never have been necessary. What happend to "no" ?
"It's Noun of Your Business" 😂 Great headline!
It's little enough, but it's a hopeful first step on the slow road back to sanity.
Teachers should be accommodated in every way to do what's essentially their core business: TEACH. Teach children about geography, how to read and write, about history, about how to properly engage with others - that is an integral part of being taught at a school - etcetera. But they should NOT be talking about their own political, ideological or religious views UNLESS it's part of the curriculum or the subject of a class gives a teacher the opportunity to discuss such topics. I was a teacher for quite a few years and I never discussed my own views - I'm an atheist, for instance - unless children asked me about it or unless the subject matter of a particular lession/class gave me the opportunity to do so. And even in those cases I did not go overboard with talking about my views or ideas; I talked about them in a calm and concise manner, and that's it.
Finally gov does the right thing lol
Ignore and defund Stonewall !
We need this in the United States immediately.
Oh and WOMEN'S sport should get the same respect !!!!! No men !!!! They have their own group !!!! or make a trans team separate !!!!
A Trans olympics would be more watched than the normal olympics hence it wont happen sadly
Thank goodness for some sense at last.
Equilibrium is being restored
Glad to see people coming around to their senses with respect to this stupidity.
It's about time Irelands schools and especially Church of Ireland school's follow suit. Children need to be protected and not exploited
UK teachers told they do NOT have to address pupils by chosen pronouns , but from what's happened in the past they will get sacked if they don't do so.
You should not need to be told about something that is just common sense.
Alleluia!
Good news! Thank you!!!!
How America decides to raise their children in and out of the classroom is THERE choice. Please stop trying to pressure other countries to try and follow the same ideologies.
Sack all teachers that have embraced it as well