The Harsh Reality of Esports
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- The Harsh Reality of Esports
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Chapters:
0:00 The LDL Incident
5:25 Price of Match Fixing
6:30 Ultraliga Conspiracy
12:10 First Blood
14:59 Working for free
17:58 Fk it... baylife
23:42 Closing thoughts
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docs.google.com/document/d/1I... - Hry
"..so that I can warm up for a scrim so I can fucking shit on C9."- Dyrone. Legend
I've never seen that clip before and it was crazy to me I would've said something so much worse, that was clearly a very personal argument and not his first one like that
What an absolute chad. Bro didn't keep a cool head he kept a whole refrigerator through that shit
I hope this comes across as constructive criticism: I think that the thumbnails of these video essays should be a bit different than the usual video where you report news related to League of Legends.
I'm telling you because a video like this one, that surely took you more hours to write and edit, would be sad, and counterproductive, if it was mistaken for a news video (for the similarity of the thumbnails). Because a video essay can be seen even after years whereas videos related to news are more temporary.
Of course you should still keep your style for the thumbnails (maybe a bit more sofisticated?) but I clicked on this video just because I saw it was 24 minutes long.
Wanted to say that I agree completely. When I clicked in this video my first thought was that some major drama dropped, but this is a documentary actually
ye, high effort videos deserve better thumbnails
completly agree, i clicked on it thinking it was about another potential wintrade like earlier
Agreed. And there’s a tonal inconsistency throughout a lot of the video - the talking cat avatar is fine and cute for less serious videos, but the dramatic music playing for a lot of this just felt like a weird fit. The tone of voice of the narration also didn’t seem to match the weight of the script that was written. I get that Ryscu doesn’t do whole video essays like creators like HBomb, and I know that some of these suggestions require more time and effort, but I think that this topic and the quality of the research deserves to have as much attention put into the presentation as it was clearly put into the preparation.
yeah. it may be because I'm currently sick af and really out of it, but I actually didn't realize this wasn't a normal video until I clicked on it and saw it was 24 minutes long
TSM Reginald is just soooo unpleasant to watch. Like I imagined that it would have been me in that situation and I would have gotten so angry. Respect to Dyrus staying that calm minded... What a despisable human I saw right there...
I swear I am so mad at this guy. How come riot didn't do anything to him? T.T
Agreed. He seems like a complete narcissist douchebag, I wouldn't have been able to stay as calm as dyrus did.
How he got through his career without someone putting a chair through his head is honestly a shock
He's a psychopath he literally looks like one too
Its not just him its like 80% of that Filthy Company , and people keep feeding them so they can keep harming the scene ....
These matchfixers' practices sounds like mafia methods. Kinda scary tbh
Most likely they are, historically where there is any form of gambling organised crime tends to put their money in it to clean money.
It's the same in any sport unfortunately, where there is money there will be someone trying to get some
@@macarrony123 the point is that when you allow gambling to be free and mostly anonymous other than the usual negatives of gambling, you give organised crime a way to get basically free clean money by cheating game
@@no_name9369 yes I agree, and for example when you get football teams to have a gambling website to be one of your sponsors you know that sport is gone...
Chinese economy kinda mafia like.. so not that shocking. It’s like old mafia America … but tbf America is turning this way too. It’s more of a cultural shift where: “we don’t gaf how you get your money, as long as you have it.” So culture shifts to be individualistic over collective and that likely leads to more scamming behaviors because “I care about me more than the integrity of society/organized human events. So I’ll cheat, even if it makes the experience worse for others, because it makes it better for me.”
Love the longer video format, good to see all this info together
Holy shit. That Dyrus clip with Regi really pissed me off. Dyrus is the most down to earth brother, and this maniac is just looking for an arguement.... Is he drunk?
Never knew about this, or didnt see it. But holy shit Regi deserves all that came to him. He tried to belittle players so they would be his slaves.
@@ColinSuuronen What came to him? Riot and TSM did an investigation into the matter and both came up with no harm done lmao...
He has a super successful website making millions of dollars but was bleeding it out on his esports slots. Financially leaving league was the best thing he could have done.
@@colin5197 stfu Regi. no matter how many alt accounts you make, you're still a loser
Dyrus.. is not a down to earth brother. He has a huge rage issue, always has.
the way reginald talks to dyrus gives me flashbacks of my parents
I hope you're doing okay now :(
lol
dude reminds me of my mother and sister they never stfu when they start
God. Regi's behavior really gives me flashbacks to abusive relationships and its so fucking uncomfortable. I would not want to be anywhere near that. Completely horrifying.
Imagine how much you have to piss Dyrus off to get such a visceral reaction.
the dyrus clip is infuriating. i would’ve quit at that point. crazy that clip is out there and regi didnt get booed off the internet
Bo my goat, huge respect for coming forward
i don't watch too much league but even i get to see rampant match fixing and betting scams, when i watch faker (or other t1 members, but especially faker) stream solo queue games, because these people ddos his teammates or get into his games themselves to purposefully throw them all the time, as both his competitive and solo queue games get bet on in certain countries. it was bad, then slowed down when he called it out to riot some years ago, and now it's gotten bad again, and for the past stream or two he almost can't play solo queue on stream at all. the point is, it's everywhere. no one can escape it. but banning betting is probably not in riot's interest either. i don't know what can really be done.
Riot can't entirely ban betting on their events. The betting is being run legally by third parties. What they can do is ban gambling sponsorships from any competition affiliated with Riot(which they did) , Permaban anyone from their events found to be partaking in gambling fraud(which they do), and also press legal charges when they have the receipts. (Hard to get receipts!!!)
Sucks that they just fired a bunch of people, that's why this problem is getting bigger. Riot are weak, they have significantly less manpower now, this problem will only get worse.
@@EarlHare maybe also they should try to work out a legal way to sue in justice people who alter professionals earnings activities (i.e. ddos and trolling during streams). I think a legal argument could be made for that, and it would be a real deterrent.
Sports in general are often unsustainable outside of the few top teams, let alone esports.
Most sport leagues have some form of revenue sharing so that the big guys can drag up the little guys along for the ride and the owners are multi0billionaires who can stomach losing millions every season because the franchise itself is sort of like a cool toy to show off to their friends. It's also a fact that the main source of revenue for a lot of sports leagues is actually broadcasting rights, which is money that esports never get to touch due to them being on CZcams or Twitch and not major networks.
A sustainable format could be found in Formula One where the teams revenues is basically a redistribution of a share of broadcasting earnings (Concorde Agreements).
Now of course Formula One is not directly profitable for the teams because of the technology involved. But I think RIOT could go a long way by redistributing broadcasting, sponsoring and competition related skins sales revenues.
In the end it would even erve them as the game obviously would benefit from a healthier pro environment.
@@Cancoillotteman I think F1 is a special case though because there'll never be a race that's only RB and Mercedes, or Ferrari and Aston, or whatever other combination like most other sports are. For the sport to even take place, the 10 teams are all involved, and so the 10 teams are all owed the same amount from the sporting org for their efforts.
@@hanikanaan4121 I mean not exactly since revenues are distributed according to results the previous year, but i get your point.
lmao no, sports have been sustainable for decades on decades on decades like the NFL NBA MLB Euro soccer league I mean you have to be delusional or just disconnected from reality to come up with that statement. Also doesnt help that esports is beyond boring to watch while real sports are super entertaining to watch
@@TheBMART62 You have to be delusional or disconnected from reality to think that the annual bottom tier sports team would survive if they weren't entitled to an equal share of media revenue from national broadcasting deals the league signs. Same with MLB teams that can barely put people in seats, there is a reason that any attempt of creating a rival league for these sports doesn't last long because of costs and lack of interest
"COC manager" had me rolling
Also agree with some of the other comments here, the longer videos are really great.
i am shocked that dyrus didnt beat the sht out of reginald. Dude still keep playing calm while in rage.
loving the longer video format keep up the good work lad
The Dyrus-Reginald clip is always so heartbreaking to watch
An idea how to fix a part of the payment issues:
Riot has minimum match payments. So when an org is signing up for a split, it's clear how many games there are, therefore it's clear how many match payments there have to made. How about the orgs need to deposit that money upfront with Riot who then pay the players directly? Riot has no incentive to not pay the players, and it can guarantee that the payments are made timely and in its entirety, while the upfront payment should dissuade any org from signing for a split when they don't have the intention to play and pay their players and staff.
I'm 15 minutes into the video. So far, every single LoL example is about Chinese players. Also, the fact that Iron Wolves players weren't punished and roster is still playing with this Chinese duo is really demoralizing. I can't imagine how the rest of the roster feels being forced to play the rest of the season with this matchfixing wintraders. Also, legit honest hard working Chinese players are now forever tied with possible wintrader tag because of the few scums that happen to be from the same country.
Hey Ryscu.
I really love these types of videos. they are very informative and keep my eyes glued to the monitor just wanting to see and hear more from it.
But i have one thing to say.
If you show a tweet or some other post and read it out loud, please mark what you are reading. Because atleast i instinctivly try to read the whole post from the beginning and i get confused because it often is not what you are saying/reading right now. That makes it very confusing and i end up needing to rewind it a bit to search for the actual part what you are reading.
same goes for text you skip.
other than that tho, keep up the good work!
New format! lets goooo! I love it! I did get a bit over exposed with league stuff with Rival and Ryscu doing basically the same type of content, but now I've got some new food to chew down.
Im glad you brought up SC2. Match fixing really holds esports back as a whole . The integrity just isnt there yet.
TBH it will never have the integrity until players in both the top leagues and the supporting leagues can have a sustainable, stable, livable income.
I remember hearing the horror stories about reginald from back in the day. Not surprised that he's finally getting some comeuppance, but not nearly as much as he deserves.
Really enjoyed the vid but for some feedback, 1 it felt like this was two stories trying to be merged together that did t sync up right fully , match fixing and poor management 2 because of the 2 stories it really felt like there was more to be said at the end before it cut off, really liked this though and hope this is the start of more commentary / look back style videos from you :)
❤ keep up the good work you absolute legend (also your music is cool AF)
enjoying the longer and more critically thought-out videos you've posted lately. i can agree with some other comments stating a slightly different thumbnail style could be a bit beneficial, but overall i think it's a cool next step from your previously (almost) daily news/patch notes/current drama style videos. great job!
Love the effects you added over graphics in this video! The editing style is great, there's just a few spots where they're a liiiittle too blurred or washed out. Love the content, great watch!
Betting is one of the core problem of this, i think it would help a lot if betting is removed all together
It won't though. The idea that you could make money from your hobby even if its just a small % chance will always drive people to waste their money and turn their hobby into a slots machine simulator
I’m not especially a fan of betting in general but Riot really doesn’t have the power to ban it outright.
this was such a well presented and researched video! I really enjoyed it. i will say that it felt a little abrupt as an end, and it could have been nice to hear about what we can do as esports enjoyers to help keep the sport alive.
wasn't expecting a banger video but god damn
MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS PLEASE. This was actually an incredible watch, I've never been interested in Esports - like at all, and especially not for LOL, but this was very interesting and easy to understand despite knowing none of these people or the current/past Esports climate.
The problem is on both sides. The game or devs that are trying to get into competitive gaming either arent willing or don't understand that you will most likely be losing money to put on big high production events along with the organizations that jump and want to either pay for a spot or go through all the tournaments to earn a spot in whatever league is being made...... everyone just wants to skip the growing pains that CounterStrike and all the others that actually make money now went through. Or its all just a scam and everyone is jist looking to be in on the next exit scam that comes around.
Great editing! You are obviously grinding your ass off, keep it up
17:56 love that your character actually looks down on the "notes" xd
i love this type of content :o long content like that are very nice !
I love when my melee teammates are in melee but aren’t damaging with autos or abilities
Realy informative. Btw, love this cinematic editting style. Keep on goinggg
been waiting everyday hoping u would post today, so happy
long format videos getting better and better, love it 🧡
I like the video essay style video! really well done 👏
You are so good! I love these longer videos!
Hey Ryscu, i just wanted to tell you what an amazing artist you are! I looove your newest song "only you"!!!! Your not only an awesome content creator/gamer but also an amazing artist, honestly! Ur a big inspiration to me since both music and gaming are my biggest passions :) much love from germany man, keep it up❤
I love the longform video style and hope to see more maybe! :)
I forgot Regi is worse than the most vengeful spouse with his pettiness.
Loved this video, well produced i would very much love more videos like this from you ❤
An old schoolmate of mine got into TSM academy and was let go less then like 12 months later. rip, s0ul
Transition at 14:54 is giving big hbomberguy vibes, I love it.
Esports as a business is unsustainable. Esports as a crowd funded/fan funded competition is better and more sustainable.
One is made in the hopes of making money. While one is made for the fans and by the fans.
Suuurreee. That entirely depends on the scale. 1. Pedophilia or some bull crap happens and all the causal viewers blame the game developers/publisher for it. Leading to the publishers just DMCA notice and not allowing tournaments. 2. Elitism and favoritism prevents people from joining, competing or just creating a toxic environment damaging the reputation of the game as well. Local mom and pop tournaments would probably work like that, but in terms of anything bigger I am not so sure.
@@TakarieZanwhich org had a pedophilia scandal? Im genuinely asking
The reason LPL and LCK still living is because it is the playground for billionaires.
@@xxivkraegen2124it was an example of something bad that could happen. Pedos and league aren't exactly foreign concepts
@@why.should_i it was a super weird argument 💀💀. League still thriving even though they got pedo streamers left and right. Plus that never affected the esports side in any kind of way. He was just yapping about random dmca like wtf
Hey I love this longer format video style from you, very well done. The only critique I have is to try to balance the audio from the clips to match your voiceover a little more, the clips are quite loud
This is incredibly well done. Good video, I want more like these please!
Thanks for covering this. Wish you all the best and STAY SAFE. Ive known cheaters like them to be holding grudges for a long time...
Video production is so high quality! awesome job Ryscu!
How did Reginald not just get fired immediately? I have literally heard nothing good from him, not as a player, not as a coach.
because he is the owner?
@@mreatcoco surely the entire TSM organisation isn't a dictatorship? The "owner" can be ousted/bought out by the members and investors? Given all the shit and toxicity, this would've been a valid move, no?...
@@Rbum4 i think he has the majority of the shares so no one can really kick him out. Investors could sue him sure
@@mreatcoco ok yeah, fair. must've sure sucked for the players and the organisation to be stuck with that dipshit :/ these clips that show his complete lack of social skills are unhinged.
1 ad every minute, must be a record
3:51 the "huhhhh?"s caught me offguard xDD 💀
This is a fantastic video. Please continue making more content like this!
same for rng season 8. Match vs skt. 2 members of rng was match fixing.
Great Production Value and Video, keep it up Chef :)
Based Ryscu with the longer format, well thought out and well put together videos? Ayo. Keep up the good work. Short kings up!
I remember Tsm when it was just entertaining to watch, with its wholesome team, then wukong made it team switching members over the years by constantly changing the roster. Adding to the fact of the toxicity from wukong as well was annoying. That’s why many old members left.
I love the long videos, I wish they were even longer lmfao
what a well done Video. Enjoyed every bit
Fantastic video! I'd love to see you cover the current Viet match fixing scandal like this, though that would probably take a while since it's kinda huge and will likely take a while for the dust to settle.
The TSM section was so hard to watch as a former fan, even back in the early days when Dyrus first replaced Rainman it was almost embarrassing to call them my favorite team simply because an overgrown playground bully like Reginald was the face of it. I liked every other player, but that dude was just a constant embarrassment both professionally and as a person. He was so blatant about his bad behavior that I'd honestly say the most surprising thing about the situation is that he managed to keep the org going as long as he did before tanking it with his tantrums and abuse. If he didn't step down from the LCS roster and (mostly) fade from the public eye as early as he did, I'm certain he would've burned it all down way sooner.
I think that Dyrus clip brought out some demons in me, sorry. He was my favorite player and always seemed like the gentlest dude until provoked, usually by Regi, and it was so rough watching Regi treat him like a punching bag over the years. That clip was a particularly bad one, but as a fan watching TSM streams incidents like that were essentially the norm for years. And that was just the stuff he felt comfortable doing on camera, I can only imagine how much worse it was when they weren't streaming. Karma took a while, but I'm glad it's finally coming back around to that absolute tool. I hope all the people he fired off the sinking ship are doing much better without him.
You know it's bad when I myself, my worst champ to play is Jayce, I have a solid 23% win rate on him, and I genuinely think I could've done better in team fights than that guy as a Plat player...
How did they not find sufficient evidence?!? That's a pro player right there!
That Jayce tried so hard to int and lose the game but at the end he won. Must have been very disappointed :D
I like your videos. The production quality is insane and reminds me of the german channel simplicissimus
Notice how both of the matchfixing players on WOLF at 9:00 are imported players, not originally from that region.
Awesome production quality. GJ!
In spain's Superliga there was an org calles Bisons last year that wasn't paying anyone. they finished something like 2nd in the league tho
As pointed put by LFN members, the issue is mainly that game devs dont let private compagnies and individuals organize the tournaments. Which would allow the teams to earn a lot more, instead, its Riot Games who pays these teams their salary.
"Math! Go back to reading patch notes" I literally loled hehehe. Great vid bro. I can understand the effort you go you to create such great content. Respect
a+ video, liked the new format
Just last year something similar in the LLA
What that dude in oceania didnt even try to make it seem like he was trying to escape I mean wth he was totally out o range
amazing video man!
loving much more this longer videos tysm
Riot is in it too, the worlds storylines are just way too good to be true
2022/2023 for example
DRX was completely dogshit all year, them making it to the quarters alone was impressive but then to beat the 2021 world champions, then the LCK 1st seed and finally in an intensely close 5 game they win the finals.
Then 2023, Faker gets injured and T1 is about to not even qualify for worlds, until Faker finally comes back and T1 starts winning, they make it.
The GODS music video reminded everyone of the epic T1 vs DRX series and was all about the DRX underdog story
Analysts placing T1 low on the power rankings. Fakers 10th year, first worlds in front of his home crowd in Korea..
3 out of the 4 quarters played, all LPL teams won, people are already talking about the LPL semi finals.
until the final quarters match: Koreas final hope, the last LCK team left..
against all odds, T1 stomps the LPL and Faker lifts the trophy in front of the Korean home crowd
2019 The world song was literally "Phoenix" and look who won, "FunPlus Phoenix" what a coincidence! and a fun fact, the owner of FPX was a riot employee
It's good entertainment but you have to realize that Riot is a billion dollar company, it is a business and the businessmen at the top only want to maximize profit.
Faker is the face of league, people who don't even play the game still watch all the T1 games in worlds just because of his name.
The viewership brings riot money from ads/sponsors alone, but also the ticket sales, merch, worlds skins etc. Faker brings the views.
The reason the worlds songs are always hype/motivating is to get people to que up. Seeing Faker make a crazy play makes people who never played want to download league.
It's all just to profit and worlds is marketing for the game
But the billion dollar company surely wouldn't pay teams/players massive sums of money to lose on purpose to create better storylines, increase viewership, profit.
Surely the Korean stadium wouldn't be empty and the tournament hype and viewership drop massively if all the 4 Chinese teams made it to the semis.
Riot wouldn't lose out on big sums of money if Faker and T1 got knocked out early, WBG vs LNG finals would break viewership records too.
If WBG won, their skin sales surely would be the same as the new T1 skin line
You're really giving riot to much credit to be able to plan all that... they're such an incompetent company.
You found a great content hole for League. Good job and keep it up, this is exactly what I needed.
I was promised a conspiracy on the level that I couldn't even imagine and I'm sad to say it wasn't even close. My "suspition" is that much like governments there's a policy of, only we can do it, meaning that others can't match fix, but RIOT and TENCENT do matchfix, and this can be seen based on the new champs released and metas that they promote, it's obviously pro chinese playstyles, more fastpaced as a whole and fighting all the time, during one of the worlds they even made the ping be the same as the ping players were used to have in China, instead of playing at 0 ping as it's supposed, kr was most affected at the time, and they were the favourites to win as well.
love the edits
Love this format!
It gives me a slight chcukle watching a cartoon cat deep dive into serious subjects.
With Andy at the helm TSM was always doomed to fail.
That clip with reginald at the end is very strange. Not sure what is more perplexing, that these people put up with him, or that he feels the need to badger people like that.
my teamates questioning my random skill lvl while i ve been just win trading all along .
I love how corporates ruin not only games itself by being greedy, but now they even ruin the players aswell xD Has there been anything good with corps running games only looking at numbers and revenue?
This is so ironic considering every game played is due to surrender because some one doesnt like how its going to go into another game to surrender again until you find the lucky 10th game where you pop off.
I agree with the guy we are accusing here you dont get a free pass just because you said sorry eventually 20:00
great video but i agree with the sentiment of having different thumbnails for these kinda longform videos!
More of these PLS
great stuff
Love longer vids such as this
Poor Dyrus, if he had a better team environment I think he would go further without the mental health issues. I always liked Dyrus.
Great video 👍🏾
the truth is
1. eSports is just marketing for game dev/publisher and they don't care about low tier league that doesn't bring viewership which they can turn the viewer into players and buy their in game stuff. It wasn't suppose to be this big and they didn't expect it especially for Riot, for them it suppose to be marketing that gives them more money. So when more people get into this stuff and dreaming about becoming Pros it's like when hallucination becomes reality and game dev/publisher has to fix it when they don't even expect it to be real.
2. Game dev/publisher they're not police/lawfirm or any kind of investigation company. they have 0 experience and human resource specialize in investigation about a lot of stuff. What they will do is look at their rulebook that they force people or org to sign and try to give them penalty wrote on that rulebook to make it looks like they did something. So most of matchfixing if it's not obvious to the point that you can see it with your eyes and result shown to public they can't do much about it.
3. China is the biggest market for betting and money laundering most of the team that do matchfixing has sponsor from china and as I said in the past video about WOLF why wouldn't you matchfix when it makes 10-100 times the amount of money than becoming pros when you realize that "PROS" is just hallucination created by game publisher and only in some country that "PROS" is real.
if game dev/publisher actually want to make eSports real thing. they have to adopt the traditional sports stuff into their scene instead of trying to control everything themself by policing and ruling over every single thing pretending to be god of your own games. there need to be commitee or federation for esports not just "one company".
but of course they won't do it because each private company are too afraid to lose their banefits. when there's money in it "esports integrity" is just straight up lies by a whole company acting like a tyrant.
This is just wild. But such is big game esports.
amazing video! very well edited
Honestly the point about teams being unprofitable without sponsors is kinda dumb because that's just the way professional sports work. All of the money comes from advertising and there isn't really an alternative other than hefty pay-per-view fees, which would kill the scene or just way less money for players and coaches
But other than that it was a great video, keep up the good work ^^
Extraordinary piece of journalism! Great job, Ryscu!
Fun fact about Dyrone, he and Emiru was together during the tsm era
Amazing video brother
Bro more content pls u so good love u