QIDI Q1 Pro Review // Print More for Less?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 4. 07. 2024
- I did a bunch of printing with Qidi Tech's Q1 Pro 3D Printer. Here are thet results!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:48 Qidi Q1 Pro (last things first)
3:49 Unboxing
4:40 Test Print
5:55 Many Prints with Many Filaments!
13:57 Other Little Quirks
19:56 Conclusion - VÄda a technologie
The overhang issue at 12:58 is actually an over extrusion created mysteriously by prusaslicer. Turn on the layer fan and the result will be exactly the same. I had this exact problem many times until I realized it was the slicer. In Cura and superslicer is still present but much less evident. If you want a perfect print use always Orcaslicer. Do the test, print the same overhang part with prusaslicer and Orcaslicer and you will see the difference
thank you for still making reviews after all this time. your i3 mega review helped grow anycubic in ways they'll never truly admit.
Great video and I totally agree with your summary and reflections at the end. Amazing to see the industry spurred again. A few years ago it wouldâve been unimaginable to see such potent machines for this budget.
I really like your approach to these kind of reviews. It makes your channel unique and more interesting to watch. Also your perspective as an âoldieâ in the 3D printing game, is super valuable. Thanks for your long time commitment to the channel and videos
I personally feel this printer has the best capabilities for the money available now period. I don't think it is the absolute best quality, nor is it the fastest possible, and it is not huge like the Max. However, it's near the top in quality, it prints very fast, it still has adequate build area, and it can easily handle materials most printers struggle with or can't print at all. Most impressively, it does it for an incredible price given what it can do. It's not even $500, it's $439 with a coupon! Hoping to get one for my automotive projects. Thanks for the video. Extremely thorough and I think demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about in terms of value and capability. Great work!
I dont agree. I got the Bambulab P1S for 600⏠in the anniversary sale. The P1P could have been had for around 400⏠. At that point, there is no reason other then the heated chamber to chnoose the QIDI.
@@Rakku QIDI is already CF/GF ready, P1S not. Also, it's 30% cheaper with similar print quality. The interface is not as polished but it does the job. And QIDI doesn't send your files or webcam images online, so privacy is better
@@olafmarzocchi6194 Bambu has a mode where it doesnt operate at any point with the cloud either... you just have to enable it.
The P1S is CF/GF ready if you just get a hardened nozzle, thats an upgrade you can do on pretty much any printer. And I barely know anybody who regulary prints with CF/GF. As far as I know, its a niche case. If they do semi-professionally, they are better off with completely other printers anyway.
Similar print quality is fine, but as a consumer product, the interface and how you interact with your printer are a huge part of the expirience.
If all you care for is print quality, a heated chamber and dont mind software bugs, hickups, a less polished interface, worse ecosystem and the other stuff, sure. The QIDI might be good.
@@Rakku Except that the only reason you would say that is if you're biased towards Bambu. Given the P1P doesn't have an enclosure and is $499, while the Q1 Pro does and is $439, if both produce high quality prints without issues and can use modern slicers and web tools, why would you go with the P1P? Plus the Qidi is Klipper, has a heated chamber, and by most accounts has superior customer service. Your math is not mathing. The P1S is $599 vs $439 and does not have a heated chamber. Regardless of which one you would buy, my statement was that it was the most capable printer for the money. I believe that stands given it costs less and can theoretically and as tested handle difficult filaments as well or better than a P1 series printer.
@@olafmarzocchi6194 It will not let me write a detailed reply to you, it keeps deleting it for no reason, but all I wanted to say is thank you and yes Qidi represents a great value across their whole lineup.
It really is incredible how far we've come with 3D printing capabilities. Last year I got a Makerbot Replicator Gen 5 for $40. That thing was ~$2700 new, sporting features like wifi, bed level assist, and a camera... All of which are standard now, but back then, almost nobody else had those features.
I have been using Qidi printers in my small printer farm for nearly 10 years. They have all been nearly bulletproof workhorse printers.
Qidi support is as good as it gets. No waiting a month to get replacement parts if something breaks like the original X axis cables in my first 2 printers. In fact, my original 2 Qidi Tech printers were still running 24/7 until I replaced them 6 months ago with New Qidi Core XY printers.
I have tried a bunch of other printers over those years and nothing compared to the reliability of the Qidi's.
Yes, I have become a Fanboy after owning and abusing 10 of their printers.
Yes the support is IMPRESSIVE. They reply quickly, replace damaged parts, listen to feedback quickly.
Great review, thanks for putting the effort in!
I'm a huge fan of Bambu's printers. That polish and refinement, along with print quality and reliability are what keep me in the Bambu ecosystem.
Excellent review as usual! I like the long term user experience reviews. Every machine (even Bambu) has idosyncrasies that you learn to work with. Like others have mentioned; you could not even dream of the kind of printer functonality you get for under $500 now as short as 3 years ago. And Bambu gets credit for that.
Great review! I wish you all the best in sweden!
Your videos make me so happy :)
If you like or don't like how Bambu does buiness, you can't deny that it has by way of proxy bring us many faster machines. I have the flashforge 5m and while I won't say it is as good a bambu it is miles ahead of my other 3d printers from just 2 years ago, in speed and quality.
i also own the x1c and p1s. the Q1 Pro does have same quality prints and sometimes better on certain material. also qidi techs support is always on point too. they listen to lot of the feedback and made lot of changes to the q1 pro since the launch a few months back. they should announce their multi color system pretty soon too.
While the active chamber heating is neat, it is also a bit redundant if it's limited to 60°c. Those ambient temperatures can be achieved by just the heated bed. Sure it'll take more time, but high chamber temperatures aren't necessary for the first layers anyway.
Ultimately it's a good printer for a fair price. But splurging a bit and getting at least the P1S is probably the better choice for most people. Once you get used to the benefits of the AMS, it's really hard to go back.
Hmmm, I don't need this for the materials I print, but I do run my bed at 80C for garolite beds when printing PETG, and with the chamber fan off, the chamber temp doesn't get above 40 degrees, this is entirely beased on the environment though, because the X1C is in a cold air conditioned room.
While yes, you dont really need an active chamber for the first layers it is very useful for the subequent layers as it helps to prevent artifacting and other failures
@@ciderhat2760 Well what I meant was that after printing the first few layers, the chamber itself will heat up thanks to the heated bed warming up the air around it.
@@achannelhasnoname5182 except it doesn't get as hot as that unless you modify it (and then we are talking DIY, another type or printers), and it's not reliabe or constant.
@@aeonjoey3d with polycarbonate and some nylons the bed can be 110 - 120 C and in that case it does reach up passed 50 C in the chamber. The maximum temperature reached heavily depends on the bed temperature since that is what is doing the heating.
It has a good build volume and boat load of features, but that price is shocking reasonable. Definitely an impressive machine.
When talking about the X1C and polycarbonate prints how much warping and adhesion issues are you actually getting? If you are having issues did you try to heat the chamber first by setting the bed to a high temperature, moving it down half way into the chamber and switching the AUX fan on to let the heat build up before you print?
It would be good if Bambu made it so that the chamber can be preheated but you can do that manually too.
Your opinions and thoughts are indeed worth quite a bit. As always, you made another great, comprehensive, accessible, and entertaining video.
can you talk about all the different types of filament you used and what they are good for?
How does the speed compare to the Bambu?
I took a chance and bought 2 when they were on sale. You get a lot for your money.
Itâs the best printer I ever bought hands down
I have one too and the quality is impressive. The competitor is the P1S.
The choice is: spend more and get slightly faster PLA prints (since the cooling in the Q1 is not as good as the P1S on overhangs), and no CF/GF materials (P1S has no hardened components), but be open to get AMS if needed in the future, or spend less and get a heated chamber for ABS/ASA and already be able to print CF/GF.
It depends on what people do, it's not an obvious choice, but for me ABS/ASA/CF/GF won.
I think also open source parts and availability for tinkering is a plus for the Q1 but I can see it being a negative for people who want the iPhone sorta experience of all perfect.
It actually seems like a difficult sorta situation between picking between them actually
The iPhone vs Android analogy is pretty accurate imho
@@make.anything yes but by far not Android of the old times, when it did more with a horribly complex and buggy interface... More like today's Android: still less polished if we want to be picky but still able to do everything with more than decent UI
Grats for moving to Sweden! Hello from Norway and have you tried the Add:North filament yet (swedish)?
Tack! I wasn't aware of them. Their filament recycling program sounds great :)
That gymnastics clip was such a flex of your magnificent physic.
Btw, qhy arent you in San Francisco for Opensauce!?
He lives in Sweden.
@@7Cedira I know! But opensauce was full of makers from all the world!
If it's like the X-smart3, starting reprints from the screen can have mesh leveling turned off (or on).
No AMS = not comparable to an X1C. It's a cool budget printer for sure, but without the ability to use multiple filaments it won't be replacing the X1C any time soon. I can load up to 16 different filaments and print whichever ones I want whenever I want without having the change out spools. Do you know how valuable that is? No printer is competing with Bambu in that regard. Sure the AMS costs extra, but with the Qidi printer it isn't even possible. Maybe the next generation from Qidi will be able to compete, but what will Bambu be offering by then?
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lol funny man. You sir are a very creative person.
great review, qidi printers are fantastic imo.
Thank you for putting a product through its rigors in order to get an honest and thorough review.
Haha 'Scary lift the massive printer out by the plastic bag'. Holy crap was i confused when I got my p1s.
Did you try updating the firmware?
That looks like a nice printer and VĂ€lkommen till Sverige.
While heated chambers help for your more engineering type filaments, ABS-GF solves the warping issue for non heated chamber printers like the X1/P1.
While they have made some changes, most nylon CF filements that don't need a heated chamber, you pay for it. But they also make GF variants that help ABS that also help warping.
I'm just saying that the warping issue seems to be slowly being in making a non heated chamber printer not needed, even for CF so I believe that will make heated chambers more common but also depending how well they sell, especially since ABS GF is maybe 30 dollars a KG if not less so it doesn't cost way more than.tyoical ABS.
I applaud QIDI for supporting heated chambers pretty much right after the parent ran out. QIDI has been making some quality printers,, going by reviews from multiple channels and would be my only other suggestion right now than the P1 for someone new to 3D printers. It's a shame they seem to fly under the radar of most people. Especially because of their price.
If I had to get a 3D printer right now, I would get a QIDI over a P1S right now. Obviously prices have changed over time.
How is VFA on this printer? I saw a bit on the sides of the PC stuff.
on mine there is some (little) on the X axis but I haven't played with the belt tensioner yet (Qidi shows how to do it on their wiki)
We never got to hear it printing. What that a restriction in your agreement?
Creality is blocking that on the K2 printer at the moment.
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haha thanks, this is why I include unrelated bits in my videos ;P
Thanks for taking the time to post a review thatâs NOT 2 months old. I recently got a Q1 Pro and itâs not the same model the old reviewers received and complained about. I use a filament dryer too so the spool holder is no factor for me.
It's more than 2 months old, since his model is the first one, and now they improved the printer already based on earlier reviews. In fact, some issues he has could be fixed by a newer firmware.
What changed from most of the reviews? I heard they were going to change the bed locating along with some other small tweaks.
@@802Garage bed with raised edges for the steel plate, location of the filament entry, and more but I forgot. Also I don't care anymore since I have mine.
â@@olafmarzocchi6194 Hahaha fair. I'm hoping to get one in the next few months or whatever the next printer Qidi comes out with is.
my thoughts are: go with bambu a1 combo for pet-g and pla toys, for hardto print matetials take qi
Someone on our QIDI forum mentioned:
The QIDI ABS profile has chamber heat on.
The Generic ABS profile has chamber has chamber heating off.
Same in the ORCA QIDI profiles.
How else will they convince you to buy their filament /s :P I think it might be something to do with being unable to change the default Cura filament settings which don't account for heated chambers... but still silly
Flashforge 5M is $300 and exactly the same as this printer, minus the heated chamber and enclosure (not needed for PLA, PETG and TPU) I have two and they are better than my Creality K1.
Imo the proper comparison would have been to thr Bambu Lab P1S. Its on sale for $600 right bow and imo its a much better orinter hesudes cabin heating.
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Not surprised many of these machines are very similar. Many are made in China. I suspect there is more sharing than one might think between companies.
ill stick to my a1 1000 hours not a single error so far
There is no Bambu beater! Lol. Great video.
I would say this printer is more a peer of the P1S than the X1C, which has a comparable price point. I am somewhat biased and I know this. My X1C have been very reliable for my printing business.
I also feel that you left out a lot. Does the Qidi have a hardened steel nozzle? Can you get one? How easy is it to get replacement parts? What is the price for those like? If you're just a hobbyist, maybe these things aren't as important since you're not going to be running the thing all the time.
QIDI uses copper nozzles and hardened steel nozzles on the Max3 and Plus3, but has upgraded to bimetallic nozzles on the Q1 Pro, so you don't need to change to a different material whether you're printing PLA or high performance filaments.
These accessories are all available in their official store, are inexpensive and are shipped directly from overseas warehouses.
You should compare it to X1E with heated chamber really. X1E price is crazy high from Bambu Labs which makes this comparison ridiculous.
People do not realize that you can't print same way in non-heated enclosure.
Visually (with some materials) yes, but mechanical properties will be much worse due to inconsistent temperatures along the print.
The only way to properly print advanced materials is with an actively heated chamber. One that have control over the temperature and that is it.
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hi makeanything, do you think taxation is slavery?
you should compare it to p1s not to x1c. i'm not saying it's not a great printer, but the comparison isn't fair.
Is it noisy?
I keep it next door so I haven't had to deal with the sound overnight or anything, but I'd say it's pretty much average for a 3D printer. The enclosure helps.
@@make.anything alrighty, thanks for the response! :^)
wait, "mistery fillament" doesnt tell you if its pla, abs, or peek?
It was a leftover bit of filament that i thought was PLA, but I was wrong >.
whoever wrote that bed level macro forgot to add a home all axis, feels like the Klipper firmware was tempered with because even my Ender 3v2 that is running BLTouch, won't do it unless it was homed.
Skapa Allt!
Hmmm. Negatives: Filament swap error that was not reproducible for the video, ESL English. and a bunch of other "quirks." And ya got it free.
Positives: Heated chamber, and 17,784 / 2,306,000 cubic mm advantage for $150 / $45 less (respectively BambuLab / Creality). Having choices with faster printers is a very good thing.
Hopefully they can beat bambu to the punch and build an xl model
Some of the problems sounds like a firmware issue
removing the tube over and over when changing materials will eventually stop the coupler and the ptfe tube from working. This is where some bowden printers have issues with ptfe tube pushing out due to longer retractions. sound like a big failure mode for anyone using it for commercial purposes.
This is actually a direct drive printer so that coupler is kind of unnecessary, as far as I can tell
Always clogging for 2 month, my hotend i guess say goodbye 1 week ago and didn't warm now. Waiting for customer service stop asking question and ship replacement piece !
But where is Cool Guy?
Need to get yourself some rugs and sound absorbing panels for your walls and ceiling - a lot of echo on the sound
Yeeea I know >.
the echo thou
aghhhh i just passed up one of these for $200 dollarsssssssss
Your video is cool, but I really don't understand why people print structural parts (like your adaptor) in the weakest possible orientation. It's not that polycarbonate isn't as strong as you thought. It's that there's tremendous stress concentration due to the torque. If you had rotated it 90 degrees, it would have held 5 monitors just fine
That adapter is essentially just a spacer. The screws running through provide the strength... So even printing in PC was kind of overkill
@@make.anything it's clearly structural. You broke the first one before reprinting it with solid infill
@@disp3rsion Oh my bad, I thought you were referring to the monitor adaptor. The IKEA speaker thing didn't break along a layer line, but rather across a perpendicular plane. That's to say the part snapped before the layers delaminated.
@@make.anything oops, I meant speaker mount. But sir, you can clearly see the top layer is parallel to the screw head at 8:02 and also the characteristic contour lines at the fillet. Since it broke parallel to the screw head, the layer lines must be parallel to the break. I mean, if you try to break polycarbonate filament by pulling on it, you'd probably need several hundred pounds. So that alone should corroborate the fact that it did not break in the strongest orientation
You moved to Sweden huh? VĂ€lkommen, hoppas du trivs!
Tack! Jag flyttade hit i januari och hittills trivs jag verkligen :)
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I never understood why some reviewers mention a USB stick or problems with the USB stick when most people aren't gonna use that if not all, it has Wi-Fi you're slicing the file in a program that could send the file directly to the printer so why use the USB stick
Some people have concerns about allowing such devices access to there network or having them online period as there is a possibility they send data to other parties
Why does everyone compare things to the X1C? The P1S is the Bambulab sweet spot. The X1C is just for those that get it for free or have money to burn.
Nice Qidi commercial
Why to buy a DIY 3d printer when you have a Bambu?
What do you mean by DIY? It's fully assembled.
I wouldn't trust those nylon straps. They stretch scarily under your weight. D:
They're rated for climbing and such... 600 lbs apparently. Now the wood beams they're attached too... those might be sagging đŹ
â@@make.anythingHey, so I used to do Foy operated aerial acts and that's a no fly strap.
Firstly, when you are moving you put dynamic weight on the straps that can be almost 5 times your weight. So that puts you at needing 1,000lb rated straps and you should also always give yourself at least a 30% safety margin if not 50% so we are talking way under-rated with a 600lb strap.
Definitely get something better and I can't speak to the support beams but making sure you have some kinda weight distribution at the top instead of binding the strap would be best practice.
Somehow all these companies seem to copy bambu lab with no shame. both the name the printer as wellas the printer itself feels 1:1 copied from Bambu.
not only did QIDI name their X1 clone Q1, Creality also named their X1 Clone K1. and Creality also has the K1C model.
On that matter I Would never buy a Creality printer. they seem to have a lot of bad reviews mixed with the good ones, more than other brands. and i don't know QIDI well enough to buy one of their printers.
Brands like Sovol, Elegoo and Anycubic seem like a better option for a printer as they are more interested with competing with themselves and actually improving without needing bambu to show up.
I heard horrible things about this printer, Qidi is putting a lot of money into their advertising campaign đ
so far so good as far as I'm concerned apart from max flow that is well under what is advertised. apparently a CHT nozzle greatly improves it
I know numerous people who own one and have had great experiences. Nearly every review, sponsored or not, is also incredibly positive. Qidi support is also said to be some of the best in the business. Not sure where you are hearing horrible things unless it's just from Bambu Lab fanboys. That's where I see the most unfounded criticism.
Once you've watched their videos, you'll notice that most of the creators mention that QIDI only provided them with the machine and didn't interfere or know in advance what the video was going to be about.
If a new machine comes on the market and without these authoritative review videos, I have no way of knowing how the machine will really perform.
Just like when Creality sells the K2 Plus, I have no way of knowing the print quality or actual performance of the machine from any source other than their own officially advertised data, which is why I can't put my money into this machine.
This garbage is nowhere near to bambu, lol.
even if it was better than the bamboo carbon X1 which is impossible I would never buy it because it looks like a cheap piece of s*** it's the ugliest printer I've ever seen in my life, I mean who wants this on the desk or anywhere near them
Haha yea Bambu printers are definitely prettier.
If you won't buy a printer based on looks I find that kind of silly. Who is looking at your printer? They look at what comes off of it.
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i dont have much to comment but thank you 4 reading
No thank you
Thank you for your writing. You changed my life.
What a waist of time wtf
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The Advantage of Bambulabs over Qidi for me here in Australia is the I can order nearly any consumable or maintenance part from their webstore for reasonable cost and it will be arrive in days from a local warehouse
With the Qidi I had previously There is no webstore - you can order via email message - parts were shipped from china usually take 10 days
Qidi were very generous at times shipping parts for no charge but the times I had to pay both the part were many time more costly and shipping added to that cost
Most of the parts are available via Aliexpress
They were not back then and those the were were quite costly in comparison And still the delivery time was a issue
Nope, this is just a piece of junk.
Good argument đ
I didn't get mine for free and I still like mine. If you don't want to be locked in to an ecosystem like Bambu it's a perfect choice.
So I currently own a Qidi Xmax 3, Qidi Ifast, Two X1Câs, K1 Max, and Prusa XL. Iâve had numerous issues with Qidi products, I honestly wouldnât recommend them to anyone. Seriously, donât waste your money like I did.
@@JR-K ok, so between the Creality, Bambu, and Qidi which do you think you actually use the most and think of first for sending your prints to?
They're all junk compared to prusa. EU>>>china