John MacArthur Calls This the Most HATED Christian Doctrine
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- There’s one controversial Christian doctrine that many people can’t stand, including some who profess to be Christians…
In this video, Todd explains exactly what this doctrine is, how it applies to our lives, and how it’s actually good news for Christians.
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Grew up at a Bible believing (Gospel Preaching) Church for 21 years, then I left to join a Church, I found out to be, seeker sensitive Church. Last week I returned to my Church of 21 years and am not looking back. All I want is Scripture, not fog machines, ted talks, or movies.
You don't want to be talked down to by a bunch of intellectuals who think they're the second coming of Steve Jobs?
@@andrewmccombs7347 Who wouldn't wan't that? I mean, the have vibrant colors and shiny lights, what more could a person want?
Sad so many churches are turning into seeker churches and losing their way.
@@thiagoemanuel8607 And the turtlenecks.... oh the turtlenecks.
@@andrewmccombs7347 At my tender young age of 55 I have been there, done that, seen it all and even got a T-shirt for it, and one thing I learned is that no matter how much glitter or perfume you sprinkle on horse manure, it still stays horse manure. No amount of human intellect can replace truth, no amount of semantics can substitute wisdom and no amount of good intentions can save.
Without Christ, I am just another doomed sinner.
But did the father chose you? And are you born again?
Thanks be to God!
Just a soomed dinner you mean.
This is video & channel is pro-Calvinism... not scriptural.
@@mikelyons2831 so?they are still reading the scripture of the Bible...
Jesus came to save sinners, not perfect people.
Well said!
As though there are perfect people.
Hoe true. The Holy Spirit does that.
Yep. So thank God He sent His Son to die for every individual on earth.
There are No perfect people , for when Adam sand Eve fell in the garden we ALL inherited their sinful nature , sin is what we do , thats why we need a Saviour , For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son Jesus Christ , that whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have Eternal life ! .
Please pray for me, to be restored, and given a right spirit, and that I might seek Him more. I need wisdom, more than anything right now.
Will do!❤
YAHWEH is faithful to hear the prayers of a righteous heart
Job 28:28
James 1:5
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
Just keep reading the word of God, brother. In the book of James and tells us, that if we ask for wisdom, He will give it to us. Make sure that you are a part of a local body of believers as well because if you are not your growth as a Christian will be stunted.
read a chapter a day , start in the gospel of john
Please pray for my family, especially my children- 2 of them have left the faith they once proclaimed. They are engaged to unbelievers. I am so sad.
Praying for you and your children
That happened with my brother. He left the church and married an unbeliever. Now they have twin boys and I'm afraid they won't hear the truth of the gospel.
The vast majority of people will reject the full out right pardon that is available through Jesus. Not one person deserves a pardon which is why it is all by grace. It is a gift.
As time passes, especially if they have children, they will return. Patient love is key.
@@joburgess3006I appreciate your prayers. Thank you
Quote: Jesus didn't come to make bad men good - he came to make dead men live.
@@Brian-Ahavah John 1:4 In him was LIFE, and the LIfe was the LIGHT of men.
Given Rome and Egypt... The Old Testament and the New Testament... Romulus and Osiris who both predate the original Bible. Persia, which predate Hell in the Bible.
You may keep your religion but there are even existences older than Elohim.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615their message isn’t unique. They have works based gospels clearly created by men. It aligns with the desires of man and offers reward for performance like all other false religions.
@DylanGalvinMusic
True... if works = salvation. Then the people on the cross with Jesus wouldn't be in Heaven with him.
If there is no choice, then there should be no responsibility, thus no judgement. But there is a choice, even if calvinists try to say otherwise, and that is clearly stated in so many verses. Don't choose sin, choose Jesus.
"Yea, they have CHOSEN their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and CHOSE that in which I delighted not." - Isaiah 66:3-4
So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 1 Cor 3:7
I've been sharing the gospel with my Catholic siblings, and they always respond with indifference or with offense. Everytime this happens, I'm reminded that salvation is solely the work of Christ. I love my family and will persist in sharing the gospel to them, trusting in God's love and unfailing mercy.
Having the same response from my family. Mostly they are hostile toward the truth.
Keep going, the word brings life!
John 20:31 these things are written that you may believe and by believing you have life in Christ
@@theresagrimshaw1285 Same here. Their responses hurt sometimes. But my personal discomfort is nothing in comparison to the urgency of proclaiming Christ as the singular path, truth, and essence of life. The parable of 'Lazarus and the Rich Man' motivates me to speak boldly but lovingly. What's even more compelling is that Christ gave his life for someone as flawed as myself. Indeed, there is hope. Our greatest hope is the giver of hope Himself.
@theresagrimshaw1285 If they are authentic in their faith, then praise the Lord! If they're Catholic in name only (CINO), then they're not true Catholics at all. I'm a former Protestant, now Catholic, and the reading of scripture, fullness of truth, and sacramental grace was absent in 3 decades of Protestant Christianity. Christ's Church, the pillar and foundation of truth (I Tim 3:15), is One,Holy, Catholic (universal) and apostolic. Blessings!
@@keith8325but catholic have teaching that are not of Christ or apostles have you noticed that?
Jesus is King and I love him, life is so difficult at times. Thats why we must always be ready, always asking for his help and strength and asking for his forgiveness...
No he's not
Mike Riccardi: "the nature of unbelief, the essense of spiritual death, is spiritual blindness."
its not that the evidence that Christians present to support their case are not substantive: no its that the atheist are too blinded by god to see that they are right.
it doesn't get any worse than this.
This message was just what I needed to give me the clarity to finally understand that I can't save my children. Thank you!
My 24 year old son was recently saved after 10 years of sharing the gospel with him. Praise God! Keep the faith, and keep being faithful to our King, sister! Prayers over you and your family ❤🙏
Keep praying. God has his own timing.
🔥1Cor 3:6-8🔥
Only Jesus Christ can save your children or any other human being
YES YOU CAN!! If you share with them the CORRECT GOSPEL OF GRACE. Rather than this garbage of “you have to repent of your sins” that gospel is a works base gospel
This message is incredibly convicting to me. How I needed to hear this. I'm so grateful for the Lord bringing this video to me and exposing my own sin. How many times I've gotten in His way trying to get my family saved, sharing scripture and warnings time and time again with no avail.
Forgive me Father for believing that it's my duty to draw people to Jesus. Forgive me for getting in the way of your hands. I place my family, my household in your hands and you do the doing for their souls' sake. In Jesus' name Amen
I love the way these Biblical teachings are given. Strait forward, in truth and love. Thank you 🙏❤️
We can only pray for our children's salvation that God will grant them saving faith, saving grace. But we can be a witness to them and hopefully guide their path.
These verses emphasize the importance of spreading the message of Jesus Christ to all people, including our family:Matthew 28:19-20; Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8. Hence, as followers of Christ, we have been given the privileged task of sharing the gospel. I'm an only believer in a Catholic family. We ought not stop sharing and praying, humbly imploring the compassion of the Lord to save our family and others. The Lord richly bless your time sharing the immense love of Christ to your family.
It’s the doctrine of total depravity that makes us realize how much we need God and how blind we are to our sins that we don’t even realize that we’re sinning. Praise be to Jesus that we are free from the bondage of sin!
Ah, the TULIP...
It’s the doctrine of Total Depravity/Total Inability that says that we are unable to repent and believe the message that is the power of God unto salvation unless we are first effectually graced, regenerated, and given a new heart and faith in order to believe. That’s what Total Depravity/Total Inability is. It isn’t the teaching that all have sinned. It’s the teaching that all have sinned and are unable to receive the reconciliation that God has provided for them in Christ.
The doctrine of Total Depravity/Total Inability does not “make us realize how much we need God and how blind we are to our sins that we don't even realize that we're sinning”. Total Depravity can’t do that. Total Depravity is the idea that we can’t know that unless God effectually regenerates us.
But total depravity is not in the bible. What is in the bible is that we are sinners Who Jesus?
Died to save. Total depravity is a guilt trip. We are not born blind. We are born sinners who need a savior.
@@seanmacluger6102 But that effectual calling means that we got the gift of grace before we believed. That does not match up with scripture. God did the work, We responded to the work. Responding is not work.
@@brianschmidt704 what do you mean by “the gift of grace”?
Like the man born blind in John. The temple and the rabbis, and the mosaic law couldn't help him or remedy his wretchedness. Only Christ could do that. And He came to the blind man. Yes, his physical sight was given, but he was also given Godly, spiritual sight, and life, as well.
Only God can give life to the lifeless.
"As the Father has life in himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in himself and to grant eternal life to whosoever he wishes".
Amen! John chapter 9.
Eph. 1 : 3-7, Blessed be the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has Blessed us with All Spiritual Blessings in Heavenly places in Christ , according as He has CHOSEN US IN HIM BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN , having PREDESTINATED us unto the ADOPTION of children by Jesus Christ to HIMSELF according to the good pleasure of HIS WILL , wherein HE HAS MADE US ACCEPTED IN THE BELOVED . IN Whom we have Redemption through his blood , the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His Grace !.
@@BruceThePugDog - Yes, and John 5:21 as well.
Jesus addressed a whole crowd like this "you, who are evil"
Evil, yes. UNABLE TO RESPOND? NOT😅
In comparison to a Holy, perfect, pure, sinless God, YES, we are evil.
This very doctrine brought me to repentance and salvation through Todd's teaching , years back, .....this was the best day of my Life:
and today i street preach every week in my home town:
If that doctrine were true then it wouldn’t be able to bring you to repentance and faith. You wouldn’t even be able to understand the doctrine of it was of God and you were totally depraved.
@@evanu6579 On the contrary ............ Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Gal 3:24 .... He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God john 1, 10-14 ...... only by the wonderfull power, grace and mercy of God by His Holy spirit.
@@3DL1
Total depravity is the same thing as total inability. That means you’re a God hater until the moment you’re regenerated. You can’t understand the things of God until you’re regenerated.
So how could a doctrine be the means for your faith?
I’m saying either scripture is false (like the passages you cited) or the doctrine is false.
@@evanu6579 so I guess you saved yourself ......
God bless you ❤ love from Ireland
The devil wants me to lose my faith but Lord it’s not working. Only you Lord knows the burdens I face. I’m a single mom and it is hard to have everything on my shoulders. Especially because both of my sons are special needs but despite the challenges I face. I keep faith in Jesus even as I struggle to pay rent and as I struggle to buy groceries for my children. As a christian that’s all I can do. Waiting on you Jesus. 💕
Oh wow! I am in exactly the same situation! Right down to 2 sons with special needs! Hold on to Jesus, my sister❤
Read His word daily one chapter a day and pray.... And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus : phil 4:19
May the peace of Christ be with you both,in everything you pass through may you feel His love and care.God loves you and He will never abonden you❤
God will never ever ever abandon you, remain faithful and he will provide in ways beyond our understanding❤
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.
Selwyn Duke
Well, from this calvinist theology, it doesn't matter what they believe. They just have to hope they are chosen to be regenerated to be saved. What they believe isn't relevant cause their "totally depraved" self isn't capable of understanding truth anyway.
@@NathannnnnnnnnnI don't understand your logic
@TeresaOverholt-ky1ct calvinists believe that lost people don't have the capacity to understand truth. That God has to regenerate them before they can understand truth. So from the calvinists perspective, the lost are drifting away from the truth because God did not regenerate them. They have no choice but to drift away from the truth until God regenerates them.
None of that is Biblical
@TeresaOverholt-ky1ct calvinists think the lost do not have the capacity to understand truth. That their only choice is lies. That God has to regenerate them first before they can understand truth. That's what they mean when they say "totally depraved". It's not Biblical
@TeresaOverholt-ky1ct calvinists think the lost do not have the capacity to understand truth. That their only choice is lies. That God has to regenerate them first before they can understand truth. That's what they mean when they say "totally depraved". It's not Biblical
Thank you for this encouragement. I really needed this❤
What a privilege it is to be here for “such a time as this!”
Your video brilliantly points this out. Thank you !
May God bring each of us more and more opportunities to plant, and may we be ready to give an answer for what we believe when the lost look to us for answers as the days go by.
Glory to God as His story unfolds.
I am scratching my head on this one, “This the most HATED Christian Doctrine” title. I share my faith and the Good News - the Gospel, and I try to make my light shine, but I never have thought I could save someone. Some plant the seed, others water the seed, but I cannot make it grow that’s up to God.
All they are saying is that: preach the Gospel, don't make a show of it.
@@preacherbillf Perhaps. I have lost my faith in most pastor. 😞
Yeah well - what they aren't telling you completely is that those people teach that it doesn't matter if you preach. Because those people aren't going to ever seek God. Until God just makes them love himself... Because, without aid, they will never love God. Nonsense.
@@bambiwest1391 Good! Don't have faith in people (Men) have Faith IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD. That's the problem in the churches, the pastors have become the pew people idol and who they worship instead of GOD/Jesus Christ Our Lord.
This video raises more questions than it answers. If it is up to God alone who gets saved, where is the comfort in knowing He chooses not to save most people? Perhaps 'sovereignty' really means that God does whatever pleases Him, rather than removing our ability to freely choose to receive the gift of salvation in Christ (Ps. 115:3, 135:6).
I think that's the wrong question. Instead "why doesn't God save more people" it should be "why does God even save ONE." Leaving someone in their sins is not the same as forcing them into Hell. The unbelieving mind naturally hates and sins against God.
@@peterlucus2062God calls everyone; few accept salvation. This is repeatedly multiple times throughout the Bible. God wants all to turn to repentance and be saved. That is what He has said.
God chooses everyone, but He forces no one. It’s entirely up to the person of whether to seek or not. If they seek, God does the rest.
You're exactly right. Living sold out for Christ over the past 38 years, and then I discovered that there is a group of people out there within the umbrella of Christianity who believe such a foreign gospel and it blew my mind.
- Jesus does not love all, did not die for all, does not want all to be saved? What?????
- God decrees that a child was abused?
- From out of the womb the majority of people are born with ZERO choice, but were created only to glorify God in hell for eternity?
- Their leader John Calvin's favorite wood to use to burn those who disagreed with him was green wood? (It burnt slower).
- To believe on your own is a "works-based salvation"? What????
- Their god hates most people but calls us to love our enemies?
- Anytime you see the word "ALL" and "WORLD" in the bible it always means "elect"?
- We are called "universalists" because we believe Jesus died and wants all to come to Calvary?
- And on and on and on...
There is zero good news in this Calvinist toxic doctrine. Don't fall for Calvinism. Jesus CLEARLY SAID we have a will to choose. John 7:17... "If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority."
@@directorjames1855 God chooses all for salvation? Where is that written? Sounds like universalism, if it is up to the human being to be saved, we wouldn't be. Even John 3:16 is an exclusionary statement. ONLY those who believe receive eternal life. The order of the golden chain of salvation in Romans cannotbe separated. Order matters. Jesus even said those who don't believe do so BECAUSE they are not His sheep, they refuse to believe. Notice the order: He didnt say that they refuse to believe and therefore are not the sheep. Other way around. He purposefully doesn't reveal truth to some, he even says so explicitly to the disciples. He knows those who won't believe so He doesn't expose them to condemnation further by giving them the truth. On and on we could go with evidences
Saying Jesus died for everyone but not everyone is saved means only one thing: there are people in Hell who Jesus died for but they did not "accept" salvation. In their case, Jesus' death was not enough.
ALL OF THIS. thank you pastor! 🙏💟
I went to different churches as an adolescent but was never welcomed. Not surprising, i also never fit in at school and went to 11 different ones trying to escape constant bullying. A friend invited me to a Christian outreach disquised as a coffeehouse where rock bands played and who occasionally testified about Jesus. I eventually realized God existed. I had gotten stoned and realized the remarkable beauty of the girl i was skipping class with could not have happened by accident, nor anything else living or in nature. As a 10th grade society outcast, i subsequently became a self inspired God seeking transcendentalist and went to California fleeing possible drug charges, and ended up living next to rock-n-roll royality and began practicing Buddhism where i felt entirely welcomed despite my anticultural identity. (Hardly anyone believed in God in the wealthy California onclave where I ended up living). In my journey to be close to God, I inadvertently called on the name of Jesus. I was desperate to not miss my ride to a Buddhist meeting. That's when the scriptures were fulfilled about whosoever will call, and God soaked me in his joy and peace that reached deeper into my innermost longings than i could have ever imagined. Not long after, i visted my coffeehouse friend back in the states to tell him of my experience and spiritual enlightenment. That’s when he rejected my claim, opened the scriptures, and I realized Jesus was no prophet or holy man, but the source of all life and the sole redeemer of all mankind by his blood and resurrection.
People who want to spend their time interpreting Scripture instead of living it, have too much time on their hands.
Great video! 😊
Abraham believed God and he was counted to him as righteousness. He wasn't counted righteous and then believed God.
How was Abraham “able” to believe? He has nothing of which to boast. God is the 1st Mover. He is sovereign over every atom in creation. He cannot be made a victim of man’s depraved will.
@@markreid2709 You're assuming a very *specific kind* of Divine Intervention needs to be done in order for an individual to believe.
Hey buddy this is Harold over in East Tenn. good message A+
Listen… that man’s pullpit at the 6:52 mark is hilariously big. I mean, Amen.. but idk why I find the size of that boat he’s standing behind so funny 😂
I knew this already.... also I needed to hear this. Thank you
Thanks for the Word, i guesss i had to hear that one...
We have nothing good in us to commend us to God. It is all God, all grace.
The scripture says everyone. So u are either a Universalist or you have to concede that ppl have free choice to receive or reject God.
John 12:32
New American Bible (Revised Edition)
32 And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself.”
@@arcguardian that interpretation conflicts with Romans 8:29-30, and doesn't match the promises that God made about his new covenant in sections like Ezekiel 36:22-36. At the same time, that word that your version translates as "everyone" can carry the meaning "all kinds of people", which wouldn't conflict with the verses mentioned, which was fulfilled by extending the covenant to the Gentiles. So you can deny both Universalism and libertarian free will based on Biblical revelation.
@@NeededGR13F you'd still have to prove Jesus Christ didn't die for EVERYONE, before you grant that salvation isn't a choice.
@@arcguardian ? no I don't. There are 4-point Calvinists who reject both limited atonement as well as libertarian free will. What are you talking about?
@@NeededGR13F I'm talking about the reality that God can't save everyone because we have free choice, or God does NOT want to save everyone. U can't have both.
This is an awesome word brothers. Thank you 🙏🏾
Apostle Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus proves that salvation is from God alone. And he wrote about this in his letters.
The scripture says everyone. So u are either a Universalist or you have to concede that ppl have free choice to receive or reject God.
John 12:32
New American Bible (Revised Edition)
32 And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself.”
@@arcguardian your point? Can you clarify a bit more?
The Apostle Paul is not a one size fits all for how everyone is saved. Are you telling me God also blinded you by a light and literally appeared in front of you?
Salvation is from God alone, but Scripture tells us we are saved through our faith. God is not out here regenerating folks with no faith in Christ.
Amen. God saves through His Word - the gospel message has the power to change hearts and minds. The Word spoke to Paul on the road. No one is hopelessly lost (non-elect). All can be saved with the gospel unless they suppress the truth.
@@ronnieleonard8444 The problem here is that everyone suppresses the truth, because they are spiritually dead. Its up to God we the to regenerate someone or not.
Both of those fellas are calvinists. You may not be but they are. They believe that distinctive and apart from preaching God has to perform something on us so that we might even believe what is preached. But that's not what the scriptures say. The scriptures say that God chose preaching as the mode to draw men back to himself. We are depraved because we cannot know the way of God until he tells us through preaching in the case of conversion. They are his sheep if they follow his word.
Yep. They say "Total Depravity" (as they define it) is a Christian doctrine, but it isn't really. It's a Calvinist doctrine, not necessarily a Christian one.
But many Calvinists think that in order to be Christian, you must subscribe to every Calvinistic specific belief, which is not true.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 - the god of this age has blinded the minds of those unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel.
@@USA-qu2nw 2 Corinthians 4:4 is an excellent point against the idea of "Total Depravity" (as defined by Calvinists). Why would the god of this world need to blind *anyone's* mind if "Total Depravity" is true?
Like, what's the point in putting a blindfold over the eyes of a person who was born blind to begin with?
There is Holy Spirit power IN THE PREACHING.
@@hamtramckchronicles Sorry, I'm not sure on what exactly it is you're trying to say.
So Good! Thanks for the Encouragement!
Thank you Jesus for your grace and mercy and please lord let me to desire you more and remove every doubt from my heart! In Jesus name!
John should have been questioning his own doctrine.
Well, there you go. MacArthur is more authoritative than the Bible. Always go with Mac, after all, he is the evangelical POPE, as Todd so often reminds us.
Love the outtro !!!
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The problem with the “church” today is that we spend time attracting and “engaging” the world when we are _supposed_ to be equipping and encouraging the Christian!
We have no part in calling the dead to life; that is the work of God. We can’t offer salvation. We are called to proclaim the Gospel, then teach the Word.
I posted a short on my channel a few days ago with a picture trying to illustrate Ephesians 2. I ended up using a painting of Paul before King Agrippa and Festus. I don't think we're supposed to criticise Paul's evangelistic technique but rather imitate him in prayer and in presenting the gospel while remaining aware that God is sovereign and He is the only one who can save. Thanks for your reminder that God loves to save and that we should not give up even when there seems to be no spiritual life because God can raise the dead to life.
At least one passage of Scripture would've been nice.
Because Calvinism does not need Scripture like you do! They use Scripture like a drunk uses a light post; for support and not enlightenment.
I guess Ephesians 2 doesn't count, then?
Thank you Todd! Blessings. We are but messengers of the Good News. God takes it from there. 🕊
💗 Thank you! Love you, brother! 💗
There are not many that I know or have ever heard that does not agree that all men are sinners and only through Jesus can our eyes be opened and we can be saved.
The argument isn’t about that. It’s everything else that Calvinists bring along with that idea, limited atonement and irresistible grace to name a couple.
It isn’t the doctrine of being dead in our sins that a lot of people reject, it’s the rest of Calvinistic doctrine that builds on top of that.
So are you saying that you AGREE that regeneration precedes faith? That we aren't reborn because we believe, but rather, that we believe because we are reborn?
@@PanhandleFrank No. I actually was very surprised, after talking with a Calvinist friend of mine for a few years, when I finally realized that he was saying you had to be born again before you could have faith to believe.
It really threw my theological brain for a loop. But this is one of those doctrines that builds from the Calvinistic beliefs that we are completely dead and even if the HS was convicting us of sin we couldn’t respond until we are born again.
Then this intertwines with the doctrine of limited atonement and irresistible grace.
It’s a tangled web of doctrine that I believe starts its foundation with taking the scripture “dead in our sins” too far or too wooden.
There actually is an argument about that going on. It's mainly coming from the liberal churches and from a group of Protestants who are teetering on the edge of Pelagianism. I've talked to some who even try to make the case that Pelagius wasn't actually a heretic.
@@onehappydawg Exactly. "Dead in sins" doesn't mean an individual can't have or lacks the ability to have faith, any more than the phrase "dead to sin" means an individual is no longer able to sin.
@@losnfjslefn8857 The natural man receives NOT the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Its not distinctly Christian, it is distinctly deterministic
Romans 9: 10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,2 but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump done vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
@coffeesponge3054 ah yes the calvinist gospel, the way they interpret Romans 9
Oh, I so needed to see this. The Holy Spirit must have answered my prayers by directing me to this episode.
What do you mean by "TOTAL depravity?" Calvinists always leave the phrase of "total depravity" more or less open ended because they have no biblically based definitive absolute interpretation or explanation as to what it means.
>> T - "Total Depravity;"
Calvinist claim that no one can act in faith until they're born again, yet people did; see Hebrews chapter 11 (not to mention the whole Old Testament filled with records of non-born again people acting in faith contrary to Calvinist false doctrine). Jesus strongly refutes the Calvinist false doctrine of "total depravity" in this scripture as clear as it as it can be...
"Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!" - John 1:47 KJV
Or...
"Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward Him, and said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!" - John 1:47 NKJV
NOTE: Nathanael was a man of NO guile, NO deceit; he was NOT "totally depraved." A person without guile is a person of innocence, honest intent, and pure motives, whose life reflects the simple practice of conforming his daily actions to principles of integrity.
Also, David was called "A man after God's own heart." "The Lord has sought for Himself a man after His own heart” (1 Sam. 13:14). The second time was by the Apostle Paul who recounted Israel's history, “I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will” (Ac. 13:22).
Calvinism claims that man is totally depraved and cannot choose to believe, the Bible says man can “do good.”
Luke 6:33 - "And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same."
The Bible says man can believe...
Revelation 22:17 -"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
Yet, believing is not a good work...
Romans 4:5-7 - "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered."
ALSO, no one was born again UNTIL Jesus rose from the dead...
1 Peter 1:3 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,"
NOTE: "by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"... no one was regenerated UNTIL Jesus rose from the dead.
"begotten" is the same as "born again," "born of God," "regenerated," etc. David, as an example. was NOT regenerated (born again) until Jesus rose.
That's a lot of truth to take in, and a lot depends on us doing so. Thank you for your teachings and guidance.
We must always remember that God wants our loved ones saved more then we do.
Absolutely! Calvinist doctrine makes man care more for the lost than God, who apparently just hates people because He wants to.
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn when I see or read where someone is asking God to save a loved one as if God can save someone against their will. God does not have a magic wond he can wave that just magically saves someone. I believe the biggest lie being taught is that God just controls everything. Just because it is labeled as Christian music does not mean what is being sung lines up with Gods word. Very often is doesn’t.
Calvinism, which believes we are first regenerated (saved) and then we receive our faith as a gift. This is unscriptural. We are saved through faith
Not your faith. Its a gift so no one can boast.
@@abuelb The "It's" in Eph 2:8&9 does not refer to faith. It's salvation that is the gift
@abuelb Romans 4 goes over that having faith is not a work. Folks like Abraham had righteousness accounted to them for their faith. Sproul gets this wrong too saying faith is a work but the apostle Paul clearly doesn't think so
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn Agree
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn Paul clearly does think so:
Romans 9: 10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of thim who calls- 12 she was told, u“The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,2 but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump done vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
Thanks for my dose of calvinism for the day. Could someone please tell jmac total depravity is calvinist theology NOT Bible Doctrine. If calvinism is true why do you have to be "regenerated" and born again if you where already in Christ from the foundation of the world? Was it when you were committing all those sins in the womb to bring about that infant damnation? Calvinist portray GOD as a monster, rather than a loving saviour. At its core calvinism is a works base philosophy i.e perseverance of the saints and Lordship Salvation that is causing great harm to THE CHURCH AND THE CAUSE OF CHRIST.
They are nothing more than modern day pharisees with a cult like mentality.
"Calvinist portray GOD as a monster, " All of them do? How do you know this?
Calvinists ignore every verse in the Bible that says God wants (and commands) all people to repent. If we did not have free will, there would be no non-Christians.
@@PYROBOOMThe basis of Calvinism is monstrous. If you saw someone who got caught by the mechanism of a machine, and that machine would kill him unless you helped him get loose, would you be a monster for just walking away and doing nothing to help? I’d say so. That machine is the Devil, and the mechanism is his deception. God is always helping us to get free and live, because He loves us deeply.
@@PYROBOOM
INFANT DAMNATION
CONDITION LOVE
UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION
LIMITED ATONEMENT
CALVINIST INTERPRETATION OF ROMANS 9
@@directorjames1855 What were "Calvanists" called before John Calvin? I thought the Bible states that "all should" come to repentance. Where does God command it? If you think God commanded it, then that means you are reformed. :-) One day, every knee will bow. How many Bible verses are there that God commands? Please list them here.
A very needed message that all of us need to hear. Not everyone stepping up the pulpit or just trying to evangelize is going to have all the necessary gifts to present the message. Fortunately God already provided us with the script - the Bible, Old and New testaments. Some are able to memorize it, some can’t, but study it so that you can, know where to look, and reference it, read aloud to others. The Apostles in the days following the Resurrection eloquently presented the message and folks were inspired to write it all down. Worth repeating over and over again. And praying for God to work in the lives of others rather than burdening ourselves with worry about our own perceived inadequacies and failures.
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:16-17
GOD BLESS .. and this is so true I have been in plenty of debates about the T ... funny thing is most belive we need to be born again yet won't admit to what we need to be born again from ... TOTAL DEPRAVITY.. right in front of there eyes yet they can not see .. Mr. Mr. Mr. FRIEL is the man and thank you for Wretched Radio led me to the doctrines of grace and such a beautiful thing it is
Being Born-Again certainly cannot save us from something that is not in the bible. Does being Born-Again save you from Santa Claus too?
@jeffpaton9667 what are you talking about ?? Drop some scripture and we can talk about it ...
@@MoStBlEsSeD 1 Corinthians 9:26, "I therefore so run, but not with uncertainty; I so fight, but not as one that beateth the air."
I do not engage in a fight with shadows and air.
@@jeffpaton9667 Isaiah 64:6 (ESV): We have all become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment.
We all fade like a leaf,
and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
There are many more scriptures showing we are unable to seek after God from birth until we are born again
John 1:12-13 (ESV): 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
@@MoStBlEsSeD I do not beat the air! Why "drop Scripture" when I would be arguing against your equivalent thesis that Santa Claus is god? Why argue what you have not proved?
Amen, amen, amen.
Great video
Sir, your show is top , dope....holy, thanks for this light, lets not get weary, les preach it and leave the conversion work to God. May the Lord Jesus show you more Light, blessings also
May Adonai bless my fellow brethren
This is not biblical doctrine. Calvinism is not biblical whatsoever. It's sad people believe this stuff, especially when the Bible calls us masterpieces Ephesians 2:10.
For we (the saints) are HIS WORKMANSHIP, created in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God afore prepared, that we should walk in them. We can't even take any credit for the good works we do as Christians, because God Himself prepared them for us to do beforehand. ALL of our good works were predestined for us before the first molecule of His universe was ever created!
I totally agree! They take various doctrines and extend them to places they do not go. No Christian disputes that the heart is deceitful above all things and incurably wicked. But they extend it that we cannot even respond positively to the gospel. We can ACCEPT or REJECT God's offer of salvation.
The Bible is filled with choices to make and actions to take. We are commanded to believe on the Lord Jesus and be saved.
@@heatherwoods5703Amen to this comment 🙏🏾
1000% spot on. Once it clicks to you just how bad Calvinism is , you can’t unsee it. This ‘let’s agree to disagree’ is NOT the answer , the Calvinist have nothing to lose with that, those letting them in do.
Calvinism is DANGEROUS !!!!!
Is Quranical good enough?
Sort of like a train conductor yelling "all aboard" we send out the call that says "only through Christ are you saved". Just like with the conductor analogy, if you ignore his call and dont get on the train you will miss it.
Nice subtle rebuttal...
I needed this today!
This, is one of the best ways you can tell you're saved. If you believe that you are a sinner bound for hell, until or unless you receive Christ, and become Born Again. And then, once you get saved, if you believe that you are still wallowing in sin, asking God to help you toss sin out of your life, piece by piece, then you are quite likely saved, as a Lost person wouldn't even think there's anything at all wrong with them. If you look at yourself, and you see that you got this sin, you got that sin, and you want rid of those sins... you're probably not Lost.
Also, if you preach the Gospel and a Lost person doesn't receive it and/or rejects it... we know they will go to Hell. However, preaching the Gospel to such a person wasn't "useless" or of "no effect" ... God promises in the Bible that *ALL* are without excuse. When a lost person rejects the Gospel and chooses to be an enemy to God, God can rightly judge this person, and that person will have zero ability to say anything at all against the Judgment at the White Throne. And there's always some chance that even if someone rejects the Gospel when you preach it to them, the seed was planted and God might introduce some major life-changing event in their lives that causes them to change their minds later on.
For many years I listened to many of John MacArthur’s sermons through his Grace to You radio program. I no longer do so when he became very combative (my word) with Governor Newsom because he refused to close Grace Community Church during the COVID pandemic. It became even worse, in my eyes, when MacArthur endorsed one of the presidential candidates during that year. I won’t say whom, but anyone who knows MacArthur knows who it was. I have since decided that I don’t need John MacArthur to tell me how I should live my Christian life. I read my Bible, and I attend a small Spanish-speaking church.
John MacArthur was the only Pastor that kept the church open. Good for him for standing up to this corruption of Politicians, he choose to be obedient to the Lord not to a man,
Sounds like a lot of feelings and no hearing of grace to you reasons to their decisions
@@creek1903 Politicians aren’t the only ones who can be corrupt. By the way these are words that are used quite often about our authorities. MacArthur taught so many times that we should obey the authorities, Governor Newsom was protecting us from becoming infected with COVID. No one knew how it was going to affect anyone who got infected; it was and is a deadly virus. Our church closed but continued with services online. Our pastors were responsible, MacArthur was rebellious.
@@georgehilario3544 I can say the same thing for MacArthur, did he show grace or rebellion? It wasn’t just churches that were asked to close, it was synagogues, mosques and other places of worship. And by the way, he hired one of the lawyers who furthered Trump’s attempts to disenfranchise millions. I don’t know if MacArthur realizes with whom he has aligned his church with: liars and disgraced attorneys. I pray he has repented if not for his rebellion, at least with associating the church with those who have brought shame to his church.
@@trinidad2450 Fear not, why you feel troubled by Covid ,,, Covid is so far from what is coming,, I stand for Jesus before any man, we will all be judge one day
Btw Noddles was not protecting he has destroy and will continue to destroy this Beautiful state of California.
I suffer from chronic and constant migraines. At least I don’t suffer headache pain.
This has gone on for over seven years. Guess what. I have no earthly desires. Small talking with someone and making them feel happy is about all I’ve got left. Every day, I feel light shining down from heaven upon me. I have no worries.
How a *calvinist* should approach a person with *his* “gospel”:
"Hi! I have good news for you! I don't know if God loves you, the most likely is that He hates you.
I also don't know if He died for you on the cross, only a very few were chosen… But Listen!"
Sad but true! This is the false gospel that is being preached in many churches.
We need urgently to bring back the *powerful, simple* and *true gospel* summarized in *John 3:16.*
If God says that he died for everyone, *it means that He died for everyone:*
*Isaiah 53:6* ; *John 1:29* ; *John 3:16,17* ; *John 4:42* ; *2 Corinthians 5:14,15* ; *Romans 5:18* ;
*1 Timothy 2:6* ; *1 Timothy 4:10,11* ; *Titus **2:11* ; *1 John 2:2* ; *John 12:47* ; *1 John 4:14* ; *Hebrews 2:9* …etc
Let's be very careful, let's not be found liars.
I'll stick with Jesus instead of Calvinism. According to our Creator, the dead have the ability to hear the gospel, and those who do hear pass from death to life. Notice the precise wording: John 5:25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Note: the dead who hear SHALL live. Life doesn't come first, it comes AFTER hearing. Drop man-made systems and stick with the Holy Bible.
Amen. Calvinism does not hold water.
Calvin was a Christian and the teaching is biblical. And it is Jesus.
@@user-bd9qt4vu4b Calvin is not Jesus nor of Jesus.
What if I told you that God created sin and that He ordains and is responsible for every murder, every rape, and every heinous evil act ever committed? You’d say that’s heresy right?! And I totally agree, but under Calvinism that statement is unequivocally true. You don’t believe me, right? Well, just read for yourself then. In fact, I didn’t know this up until recently either and so I feel compelled to share.
John Calvin:
“Men do nothing save at the secret instigation of God, and do not discuss and deliberate on anything but what he has previously decreed with himself, and brings to pass by his secret direction.”
“The will of God is the chief and principal cause of all things.”
“But where it is a matter of men’s counsels, wills, endeavours, and exertions, there is greater difficulty in seeing how the providence of God rules here too, so that nothing happens but by His assent and that men can deliberately do nothing unless He inspire it.”
“What we must prove is that single events are ordered by God and that every event comes from his intended will. Nothing happens by chance.”
Calvinist Theologian R.C. Sproul Jr.:
“God wills all things that come to pass…God desired for man to fall into sin. I am not accusing God of sinning; I am suggesting that God created sin.”
Calvinist Theologian J.I. Packer:
“God orders and controls all things, human actions among them…He [also] holds every man responsible for the choices he makes and the courses of action he pursues… Man is a responsible moral agent, though he is also divinely controlled; man is divinely controlled, though he is also a responsible moral agent. To our finite minds, of course, the thing is inexplicable.”
Calvinist Theologian Gordon Clark:
“I wish very frankly and pointedly to assert that if a man gets drunk and shoots his family, it was the will of God that he should do it… Let it be unequivocally said that this view certainly makes God the cause of sin. God is the sole ultimate cause of everything. There is absolutely nothing independent of him. He alone is the eternal being. He alone is omnipotent. He alone is sovereign. Some people who do not wish to extend God’s power over evil things, and particularly over moral evils…The Bible therefore explicitly teaches that God creates sin.“
Calvinist Theologian Mark Talbot (included in “Suffering and Sovereignty of God” by John Piper):
“God brings about all things in accordance with his will. It isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those that love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects… This includes God’s having even brought about the Nazi’s brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child.”
Calvinist Theologian James White:
In a debate with Hank Hannegraaf and George Bryson, Mr White was asked, “When a child is raped, is God responsible and did He decree that rape?” To which Mr. White replied: “Yes, because if not then it’s meaningless and purposeless and though God knew it was going to happen he created it without a purpose… and God is responsible for the creation of despair… If He didn’t [decree child rape] then that rape is an element of meaningless evil that has no purpose.”
John Wesley said about this doctrine (and I concur) that it makes God worse than the devil. He said that at least with the devil, you know what you’re getting, but under Calvinism, there’s a duplicity to God where on the one hand he is good and loving and kind and compassionate but on the other, He is the cause of all evil in the world. And so He is both the light and the darkness, making him worse than the devil because then the one that you rely on for all things good is also the one who ordains/compels you to sin and also ordains/causes all evil upon you and the rest of his saints. In fact, under this doctrine, God doesn’t even need the devil if you think about it. It’s really sick in my opinion and I believe it should be rejected. After all, does that sound like “Good News” to you???
Believe me folks, I take absolutely zero pleasure in posting this, especially on here because I absolutely love Todd, but I was Reformed up until I learned of just how far Calvinism takes absolute sovereignty and so I think people should be able to see it for themselves and then decide to embrace or reject it. I genuinely love all my brothers and sisters in Christ and that is the reason that I share this. I say that honest before the Lord God Almighty. And if you agree that this doctrine is dangerous, then I might encourage you to tell other professing Calvinists/Reformed about it so they can decide for themselves because I don’t think most Calvinists know that this is what Calvinism actually teaches. I know I didn’t. And to anyone who would say that I’m just trying to malign Calvinism, I’m doing nothing more than simply providing quotes from Calvin himself and from theologians who subscribe to his teachings.
You can just Google “calvinist quotes on God determining all evil” to see more as well as the references for the above quotes. A theology in tension is the website and I have no connection to it just as an FYI. Side bar… he says “Welcome to Arminianism” on the webpage but that’s not the only alternative view to Calvinism. I know we’ve all been conditioned to shun that word and personally I’ve been studying the traditionalist view, which aligns with people like CS Lewis and AW Tozer. Lord bless.
Thank you for sharing this. More calvinists need to see these quotes. How exactly did you find all of these quotes? Is it really just an easy Google search?
Yep, a lot of people who call themselves Calvinist or Reformed have no idea what some of the leaders in Calvinism/Reformed Theology taught.
We can only show them the door, and The Holy Spirit does the knocking. It is up to every individual to open their own door to God.
Thank you for this! May the Holy spirit regenerate the hearts of the elect!!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Can we please do away with the clickbaitish style of thumbnail / video title... please?
This is a true and good message... so I'm not understanding your complaint. 🤔 The title fit the video, in my opinion.
It's not an issue of man's depravity that's hated, it's the idea of regeneration preceding faith. John said "these things are written so that you might believe, and in believing that you may have life though His name"
The gospel is not the power of God unto salvation when you have the doctrine of regeneration saying it's impossible for the dead to believe.
The problem is this idea of regeneration preceding faith is not on the bible. It is the calvinist idea that has been inserted On to the scriptures. Paul reminded us that faith comes by hearing the word of god. If the regeneration was necessary, He would have included that point. I do believe in divine election, But not in the way that a calvinist to means it. Read Adrian Roger's or A.W. Tozer
The Pelagians would have a word ...
A dead man cannot choose to follow a holy God. It is a logical impossibility
What he is saying here is not from the scripture. The word dead is not like a corpse, It means that we are not hearing it.And if we continue in our sins we will die because our soul died when adam sinned.
Regeneration preceding faith ??? last time I read the Bible it says you need faith to be regenerated.
@@toolegittoquit_001 Wow how easy are people deceived with Calvinism.
Total depravity is not a Christian doctrine. This doctrine came from John Calvin who got it from Augustine. He imported this concept from Manichean Gnosticism, which he was a member of in his early life. Every early church father taught that we have free will and are able to choose salvation. Being dead in our sins is simply a metaphor used to describe our separation from God due to our sinful nature. Every reference in scripture to predetermination, election and chosen refers to service. Scripture never says we are elected to or chosen for salvation.
Why would you allow facts to get in the way of Gnostic Fatalists masquerading as Christians?
This is so beautiful and so perfect, and it’s just what I needed just now.
Faith precedes regeneration. You dont get brough back to life before you believe.
Justification Sanctification Glorification
How does a dead man, without faith, believe?
Did Lazarus come forward in death or because he was alive
@@caseycockerham3925He is allegedly only "mostly" dead, although I don't understand why people are so insistent that they were in ultimate control.
AND faith is not a work!
The Gospel is sufficient. Dont let the heretical Calvinists tell you that you can't believe.
My interpretation of why Calvinism is technically correct, is that it is the grace of God that saves people, and God knows who will and will not turn to Him. We don't know so we are supposed to share the word with everyone, but hell won't be empty.
@@mrcubsfan97arguably you have to believe the five points of Calvinism to be a calvinist. Knowing who will be saved and doesn't equal Calvinism. The ancient church most closely connected to the Apostolic authors never understood holy Scripture through a calvinistic lense (they were synergists). The Gospel was not "discovered" 1500+ years later by the reformers.
@@mrcubsfan97under Calvinism, it makes no eternal difference whether you ever share the Gospel with someone or not. Under Calvinism, there's no blood on oir hands. The man in the video basically said this quiet part out loud when he told parents to stop worrying about it. God will regenerate their kids if He wants. And if not, their kid is doomed and there's nothing they can do about it.
What a miserable and heretical doctrine.
@@RStark-ek7mhihear this often..what is Arminian in your view? I find most people don't even know what it is, and it's nearly always misrepresented in reformed circles. Arminianism also teaches total depravity
@@chepaco3290 You didn’t really listen to the entire video did you? You picked out something at the end that was supposed to be freeing because God does the saving (which is everywhere) after we preach the gospel to our children and nurture them in the Lord. By your comment are you saying we don’t relax and know their salvation is in God’s hands? If they don’t come in the end is that your fault? Now that is a burden and takes the sovereignty out of God’s hands and puts it into yours or theirs. Try to understand and not make assertions that aren’t true. Be blessed🙏✝️
Thankyou for what you said to parents about their children. I have been feeling incredible guilt that I failed to pass on my faith to my children. I have been overwhelmed and exhausted but this has helped me immensely.
Only God can make Saints , for we are saved by Grace alone , through Faith alone , and all to the Glory of God Alone , Gods Saints have already been Chosen in Jesus Christ BEFORE the world began , way back in old eternity , God choose us not because of any good He foresaw in us , but because He loved us ,EPH. 3 - 9 , READ IT , but before you do ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to see, if you do He will, if you don't He won't. Cheers and God Bless !.
@@happyforever1528 Strange Calvinism! If one is saved by faith alone, they are not saved by grace alone or God's Glory alone, now are they! If we are saved by grace alone, we are not saved by faith alone or by God's grace alone. If we are saved by God's Glory alone, how can we also be "alone" in faith or grace? What appears in such religious quotes is they are used and abused so often that people think it's from the Bible! Why is it that Calvinists are more impressed with their "pious quotes" than they are Scripture?
@@jeffpaton9667 We believe we are saved by Grace Alone through Faith Alone in Jesus Christ alone and All to the Glory of God Alone , as stated in the Word of God !.
@@happyforever1528 Who is "we?"
I don't believe that! You can wallow in self-contradiction in your unbiblical creed if you wish, but just because you can get a majority to believe in Santa Claus, that's your doing!
@@happyforever1528 Do you really care if it is in Scripture? Apparently not! For nowhere is it ever stated that salvation is by "grace alone" or "to the glory of God alone," or even by Jesus Christ "alone." It is NOWHERE in the Word of God! "Faith alone" is only in one place in Scripture, "faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone." James 2:17. The only "faith alone" in Scripture is a dead faith that cannot save. It takes much more than claiming something to be in Scripture than saying, "as stated in the Word of God!" Doesn't it!
The bad doctrine of theology that calvinists came up with was they ignore the part where it says for knowledge. In other words predestined through foreknowledge means that God knows who would and would not be saved, the calvinists believe God will actually block you from being saved.
This is why John MacArthur never knows if he is saved or not, he believes his works would save him. Or at least he hopes his works saves him.
Calvinism is bad theology.
Does this mean that somebody who's a calvinist is not saved, no of course not. But if you reject the assurance of salvation that Jesus continuously talks about, then you would never be assured of your salvation until the day you die.
I'll never worship a god who is only wanting some sinners to come to him. Calvinism is devilishness. Those that promote it are ill informed in the scriptures. I wish every Christian would hate the doctrine of total depravity. This is wrong on so many levels.
There is not an ounce of good in man. Not one bit. And the saving faith to believe comes from God, not us.
You don’t have to agree with Calvinism and all the points of “tulip”, but it’s undeniable that we are totally depraved. That fact stands on its own, apart from Calvinism.
@goosieschmoo8239 it's not the goodness in man that saves. We are saved through faith. God is not regenerating people who do not have faith. You can not have the Spirit in you and not believe in Christ, it's unbiblical
@@Moist_Moose_they are not totally depraved because God judges man on his response to the gospel. That's John 12:47-48. Unless you are saying God judges people for something that God did not give them the capacity of doing. Romans 1 is also evident of people knowing the truth, they trade the truth for the lie. You can't trade something you don't have.
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn a spiritually dead person cannot believe. God must first give you spiritual regeneration and then IMMEDIATLY gives you the saving faith to believe. Again, God doesn't put new wine into an old wine skin otherwise it'll burst.
Also, Calvinism completely negates evangelism and makes it a moot point.
Wrong 🙄. Our Lord said “ Go make disciples “
@dkjazzz why? If the elect were selected at the dawn of time, there is no point in going out and making anything. Your either elect or not. Nothing you can do or not do can change that. There is no reason for Jesus to have given his life for sinners because they were either elect or not. God has the power to make his elect saved. There is no reason God would want a relationship with us at all. Since 99.999999% of his greatest creation, he made wrong at the dawn of time and will make them suffer because he made us wrong. Thanks John Calvin!
@@mrwednesdaynightAmen.. Calvinism is a lie of the devil, they do not believe in the Holy Gospel and they don't believe they need it because they believe they have been magically saved without choosing as God insists
@@mrwednesdaynight Roman 10 answers this question. The preaching and hearing of the Gospel of God's free and sovereign grace in the salvation of His people is the God ordained MEANS by which He draws his elect to Christ and justly hardens the reprobate. If you deny the doctrine of sovereign election, you believe a FALSE GOSPEL AND WORSHIP A FALSE CHRIST.
@@hamtramckchronicles so He wants to rub salt in the wound of the vast majority of humanity that He made wrong at the dawn of time? Worse than that, He wants you to go out there and do His end zone dance for Him? Are you sure this God you refer to is good?
LOL. God decreed for me to not believe this heresy. Wretched sounds like a good name for this channel.
Thank You Brother for SOLID RAW TRUTH!!
Raw... at least you got one out of three right!
We are obligated and commanded to hate unbiblical doctrine such as reformed Calvinism.
Amen.
If you reject the absolute sovereignty of God in the salvation of sinners, then you reject the God of the bible.
@@hamtramckchronicles Please provide the Hebrew or Greek terms used for "sovereignty" in Scripture with verse references. Then we can determine if the Calvinistic definition of this term is accurate, or if it is man-made heresy. Thanks.
@@hamtramckchronicleswell because of Calvinism I have religious trauma
Incorrect. Arminianism gives us unmerited standing before God. It makes us lesser gods. If you want that then move to Salt Lake City.
This is why im not a calvinist by Mike Winger on CZcams. Also, I like and listen to a lot of calvinist but I do not think it is biblical. I believe God softens everyones heart at least once, and the person can choose to resist Him. It's called free will.
Your opinion has no value. Scripture is clear and concise. God CHOSE, PREDESTINED, ELECTED.
There is NO SUCH THING as free will in the created order. Never has been, never will be. The ONLY Being in the entire universe with an unencumbered free will is God Almighty. The will of the creature is ALWAYS subordinate to, and subjected to, the will of the Creator.
When your church "fathers" are the likes of McArthur and Washer, you're doing it wrong. Return to the ancients. Return to the great theologians like Saint Athanasius, Saint Ireneaus, Saint John Chrysostom, Saint Basil, Saint Gregory of Nazianzus, and Saint John of Damascus. Return to the Apostolic roots of doctrine
Let's go even further back than that and go to the Bible and see where all of the guys you just listed line up. Everyone must be examined in light of the God breathed revelation already given.
Calvinsim is a distortion of scripture that only makes sense if you isolate verses and have a double standards when ti comes to hermeneutic interpetive principles.
The five-point Calvinists take total depravity too far. Yes we are depraved.. but all five points of Calvinism take things too far.
Nope. TULIP is the gospel. Or at least 4.5 of the 5 points are true. The L is half-true.
Can you clarify what you mean by “too far”? Honest question.
@@stevendrumm4957The Gospel is given to all men everywhere, and all men everywhere are given the free-will ability to accept or reject it. It's really that simple. That's the simplest understanding of Scripture that doesn't require a theologian jumping through linguistic hoops to reinterpet plain language.
@@chepaco3290 The will of mankind is not 'free' as in able to choose between good and evil on our own accord. We are bound by our inherent sin nature and Satan until God frees us at which point we WILL choose him because that's what freedom is.
25) Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people’s hearts, and they will learn the truth. 26) Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil’s trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants. - 2 Timothy 2:25-26
5) Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit. 6) So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace. 7) For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will. 8) That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God. - Romans 8:5-8
15) For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have no law to break!) - Romans 4:15
Fun story.
Sorry, but this Calvinist doctrine clearly leads to blaming God for those who are not saved. You can hear this clearly at 8:30. If they are not responding to the Gospel message, it’s because God has not allowed them to. This is why I do NOT subscribe to this nonbiblical teaching.
What you call Calvinist is The Pure word of God , God does not have to save anyone for we were All born dead in trespasses and sins , but because of His Grace and Mercy He choose to Himself a people in Jesus Christ before they were born , not because of any good He foresaw in them but because He loved them, Eph 1 : 3 - 7. , the rest He left to pay the penalty for their own sins for the Glory of His justice !
@@happyforever1528 Then why preach and why even call it Salvation and not selection? So Jesus came and died on the cross to select, not to save.
God has before the foundation of the world chosen a people in Jesus Christ to Himself , not because of any good He foresaw in them but because he loved them Hallelujah !.
@@happyforever1528 You're no different that those denominations who think only their church is saved.
@@techwizpc4484 The big difference is I know I am saved , and thats not by anything I have done , but All to the Glory of God Alone , you are so obviously Not saved sad to say and see !.
Not gonna lie, I saw the title and I was real sure the doctrine was gonna be Predestination.
Either way, praise be to the Lord God Almighty for His wisdom, love, and discernment!
"For he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before him in love." Ephesians 1:4 (NET)
Yes He did , and what a Wonderful message that is to a guilty sinner , Hallelujah and God Bless !.
Did you notice the "us" in the passage? Do you notice the plural words used in context in verses 1-11? It is quite obvious that this does not speak of a single individual, but the "Church," the "Body of Christ." You have merely bought a Calvinist/Gnostic lottery ticket and think that you're a Millionaire!
Calvinism and total depravity is not biblical, brothers and sisters. It’s a trap. God didn’t elect specific people to be saved - but offers salvation to ALL. Of course we are dead in our sins and are sinful, but every person has a choice to either follow God or reject him.
It takes a theologian to make the gospel complicated.
You are so WRONG.
You are ASSUMING that dead in trespasses and sins means unable to respond to the Gospel.
Lose the philosophy and believe the Bible
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Romans 8. Nobody can or wants to believe. You've dropped your guts on this one.
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Please pray for me, I grew up Christian, but I literally feel like an unbeliever now
“We are not reborn because we believe. We believe because we are reborn.”
~ Martyn Lloyd-Jones
That's not accurate. My friend we are saved through faith. We are not saved to have faith, that's not what Christ teaches.
Here are some verses to consider:
Acts 10, the story of Cornelius. He was a God fearing man but was not filled with the Spirit until the end of the chapter in verse 43-45.
Acts 11:18, repentance to life. NOT life to repentance.
Romans 3:21-26
Ezekiel 18:19-32
John 5:37-47
Galatians 3:1-5
Colossians 2:11-15 (highly recommend this one)
John 20:30-31
Acts 15:9
Acts 2:38
Look these up and take some time to read them and we shall discuss
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn "My friend we are saved through faith."
Yes indeed, I agree 100%. And that faith is *a gift of God:*
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and *that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,* not of works, lest anyone should boast."
~ Ephesians 2:8, 9
People who are dead in trespasses and sins don't exercise faith; regenerate people do.
@PanhandleFrank yes but the "it" in that verse is not talking about faith only. It's talking about salvation as a whole. Saving faith is a gift from God, but you must have faith prior to salvation in order to be saved through it.
I highly recommend reading about Cornelius' coming to faith in Acts 10. It's a short chapter, but I think it clearly defines that he was not totally depraved the way calvinists say and he did not have the Spirit before being saved line calvinists say.
@@Nathannnnnnnnnn "you must have faith prior to salvation"
Q: How do people who are "dead in trespasses and sin" have faith?
"he did not have the Spirit before being saved like calvinists say."
Huh. I've been Reformed (or Calvinist, if you prefer) for 25+ years, and I've never heard anyone say that we have the Spirit before we're saved.
@@PanhandleFrank Where in Scripture is it stated Faith is an exclusive gift given to some and withheld from others?
All Ephesians 2:8,9 is saying is that Salvation is not of works.
If Calvinism were true, praying that God would save your child will have no effect on whether God saves your child. He made an arbitrary choice thousands of years ago. Neither you, your child nor God will ever change that.
Yep, and yes the doctrines of Grace are true. “ No one can come to me unless I draw him “
That’s absolute silliness! No Calvinist-including myself-believes what you just caricatured as “Calvinism.” Please, at least read a book! BTW, the Bible will do!!!
@robertgates1837 It is was what I learned from John Piper and James White and John Calvin. If they are wrong, please explain how and when the elect become the elect.
@@dkjazzzAre Calvin's honest to their children? Do they say, "I love you, but before you were born God might have determined you will be a reprobate and go to Hell. If so, the gospel cannot help you."
@@ronnieleonard8444 Of course not, because they are our children. Only Gods children will be called, and only Gods children will be saved
We call this "stealth" Calvinism because teachers teach Calvinism without pointing people to the source so they can study it for themselves not to mention the alternative views of people within the pale of Christian orthodoxy.
Like I always said. We are in sales. God is in management.
“Imagine”
It has to start this way because the Bible says no such thing.
We are alive enough to make decisions every day. We are alive enough to have faith every day.
Whosoever means whosoever.
All means all.
The world means the world.
Whoever believes = the sheep
All = male and female, every ethnicity, young and old, rich and poor.
Whoever believes =/= goats
All =/= every single person on the earth.