Roban EC130 RC Helicopter Unboxing & Fenestron Tail Details
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- The Roban EC130 RC Helicopter is an impressively large, 800 size super scale helicopter with a fenestron tail rotor, also commonly called a "fan tail".
In this unboxing, we'll be looking at the build quality of this huge RC helicopter kit from fiberglass, paint, mechanics, and other scale details along with packaging. After all, purchasing a big expensive kit like this is a little nerve racking wondering if it will arrive at your door step in one piece.
There is little detailed information about these kits, so that's the main reason I'm sharing my thoughts & journey with this kit to help you decide if it's a scale helicopter kit you might also like to build and fly.
While I've built and flown many larger RC helicopters (nitro, gas, electric, and turbine), this will be my very first experience with a fenestron tail rotor. We have all heard the potential problems of fan tails such as poor tail authority and LTE (loss of tail rotor effectiveness). Are such concerns really true, or is it a lack of strong enough tail servo, improper setup, lack of fenestron flying experience, combination, other?
That's what this Roban EC130 series of review, build, and test flight videos will hopefully answer.
I purchased this Roban EC130 800 super scale kit from the only Roban RC helicopter dealer here in North America - Motion RC. Here's the link if you want to check it out in more detail:
www.motionrc.com/products/rob...
Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series:
Part 1 - Unboxing: • Roban EC130 RC Helicop...
Part 2 - Component Selection: • Roban EC130 RC Helicop...
Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: • RC Helicopter Build - ...
Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: • Scale RC Helicopter Bu...
Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: • Roban EC130 Build Part...
Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : • Big Scale RC Helicopte...
Roban EC130 800 English Manual:
www.rchelicopterfun.com/suppo...
Video Chapters:
0:00 Howdy Folks
1:42 Unboxing
5:03 Roban EC130 Parts
5:28 Mechanics
8:05 Fuselage
10:35 Fenestron Mechanism
12:15 Landing Struts
13:45 Interior Scale Details
15:30 Final Thoughts
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Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series:
Part 1 - Unboxing: czcams.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/video.html
Part 2 - Component Selection: czcams.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/video.html
Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: czcams.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/video.html
Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: czcams.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/video.html
Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: czcams.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/video.html
Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : czcams.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/video.html
Can’t wait to see it fly
You & me both 🙂
Beautiful stuff, John. (I love that tail rotor. And the bear. Very nice). Thank you for making and posting this video.
Love the looks of a scale helicopter!
Wow 😯 now that’s a heli love the tail blade very cool. Can’t wait to see it built. 👍👍👍👍
Nice kit John, Roban has deff been a contender over the years. Looks stunning cant wait to see more thank you for sharing💙🚁
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I love your channel so much. I own 2 of your e-books. Some of the content is over my head but something I can aspire to learning. I have a lot to catch up on and can’t wait to indulge on some of the vids I haven’t seen yet. A real must for all RC / aviation enthusiasts.
Great video,have fun with the build and more fun flying this beautiful bird.
Wow , this is gonna be fun watching you put together 😎👍
It's going to be Beautiful ❤️
Wow,wow,wow!!! Can't wait to see the future videos !!! Excellent purchase Mr. Salt !!! Again, I can't stop laughing at your unboxing and comment of the tail fan at 10:45 !! Don't change your style...Love the kit description, and oups here is a black bear,and oups, I am going to take this tail rotor fan all apart !!! We are all kids in our hearts unboxing something we've always wanted. Since I just retired last week, I am planning to purchase your e-books and join the helicopter R/C hobby. I flew a R/C airplane in the past but I want to try the helis...Have a good week-end!
Appreciate the comments & good success if you decide to take up the flying egg beaters 🙂
Very nice kit John, I envy you!
Looks great, 🔥🔥thinking about getting a EC145 myself in the next couple of years🤠. Looking forward to following your build and especially the electronic setup etc👍
Very impressive man . Looking forward to next videos
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Looks really nice, already waiting for the next video 🙃
Thanks Tom , hopefully soon 🙂 Two items I'm still waiting for are the motor & ESC.
O boy is right John....lol Just finished my 407. The wonderful instructions from Roban. I built a EC!30 last year, The big challenge is getting the CG right. It will be interesting to see how you work that out.
Very nice kit John. I'll look into Robin kit to see what they got. I've been building Vario kits for over 10yrs now and i have the 1st version Dolphin EC155 with bezin mechanics. Love the way my bird fly but a lot of work to get it just right.
Originally subbed to your channel for your Boxster content, but also enjoyed this video a lot even though I know nothing about helis (model or real) because it's always enjoyable to see a hobbyists talk about their passions. Looking forward to the assembly and maiden flight vids!
I appreciate that 👍🙂
WOW, nice scale, a little big 🙂
Congratulations, Stunning Heli John! That's a little bigger than the 150, 180 and M2's you've been flying. Wow! I can't wait for the Build videos. I can imagine what the import duty was and I'm not laughing! Congratulations again and stay well John. Don't forget to get some sleep. 😂😂
Hey John, the ec-130 is one of the coolest looking helis in my opinion. I actually have one in my wish list at Motion. I’m looking forward to the build and to your choice of electronics. Ive heard some guys say with a fenestron you need a high torque tail servo, others say a standard tail servo is fine. Have fun with the build!
AWESOME KIT, JOHN! Going broke ordering your e-books, helicoptors, required tools (Coming from Fix-Wing Flying Giants) Looking forward to seeing the EC130 in the air. Keep up the awesome videos. Bob!
Haha. Thanks for the support. 🙂
Really nice kit John.
Yep, better than I was expecting 🙂
looks pretty damn nice !!!
Hi Ian, Hopefully it flies as nice as it looks - lol 😄
Amazing👍👍👍
Thanks for the visit 🙂
oh very nice
Lovely John I have the Airwolf superscale 800
Nice 🙂
looks good to me chief 😊
Awesome awesome kit John. Unfortunately I don’t have the money to buy any of Roban’s
Scalers but I did buy an Align Trex 650x
And I love it
Nice 👍
Hardly wait to see you go inverted with it.
John can you see about getting a goosky s2 sent to you to review. They're giving them out to people like yourself. It's looking like an OMP killer at this point so would be good to see your take on it.
Nice! I kinda want one of those models with a fanestron, but I've been put off of getting one because of the issues people are having getting them to work right and mainly the clearance issues with the blades. I instead elected to built a Mercy Flight livery of a Bell 429 GlobalRanger and just maidened it yesterday. I've put together 4 Roban models now, and while they look nice, their quality is pretty hit or miss. The biggest issues I've had with their models are the drilled holes and placements for scale parts.
For example, the holes in the fuselage for the side steps on the 429 I just built don't even come close to matching the mounting pegs on the side steps. The holes for the windshield wipers are crooked and offset to the right-side of the windshield. The collective stick on the right-side of the heli is in the wrong place... it should be on the left-side of the pilot's seat. The hole in the doghouse for the main shaft was punched out in the wrong spot causing the swash links to not clear the opening.
Stupid stuff like that. John, even on your heli... that's the first time I've seen a Roban model NOT have the buttons painted on the center console. Oh well. At any rate, I still love my 429 and AIRWOLF models because they look great and fly well! I hope yours turn out well and I look forward to seeing your upcoming build videos.
Well stated Carlos and I agree 100% going by my previous Roban build along with a few other guys I know with Robans' (one with the exact same Mercy Flight 429 you have). I suppose we can live with these minor annoyances considering the alternative is spending at least double on a Vario and we would still have to finish, fit doors (I hate fitting doors) & paint it. If you know how horrible my painting skills are, you know how badly I would botch a Vario build. 🙃
Oh well, we'll find out soon enough what kind of headaches I run into with this fenestron, but that's largely why I wanted one - for that added challenge. Great to hear you just maidened your 429 - have fun with it and the wolf. 👍
Hurry up John lol. I wanna buy a Roban Heli not really sure which model but looking forward to this build.
Hi Michael - be patient mate, but I too can't wait to get started on the build. Just waiting on a few more components (motor & ESC), and of course some free time before I can do the next video. I did do a review of that Roban AS350 I got several years ago on my website so you may be interested in that as well. www.rchelicopterfun.com/scale-as350-helicopter.html
As I said in the video here, Roban uses the same set of mechanics in all their helis (used to be called Compactor now called HSM). They have definitely improved a few things on the mechanics such as better tail drive system, better geometry bell cranks, and now using full carbon instead of G10 frames. As for the fuselage itself; definitely better fiber glass quality, paint quality, and better interior details.
Big bear, Nice heli.
Will be watching with interest,superb kit. I have just purchaesd my first heli due to you and your channel. A omp m1 with spektrum satellite. John can you tell me the best throttle and pitch curves for a docile practice mode. many thanks P.S,,, regards that Bear, should you not be shoooing it away? i live in the UK and may be wrong.Our biggest preditor is the Badger!
Hi Gary, all covered in my Setup & Tips eBook: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-tips.html
Now you have me thinking about buying one and building it. Always wanted one. It looks very nice! Do you have a link to this?
In description as stated.
What a beautiful ship! John, I am awaiting delivery of my Flywing FW200. When I get proficient flying, I would like to install a scale MD500 fuselage. I see Roban makes them, and there are some videos of them installed on a FW200, but they are all Japanese posters. How difficult do you think that project would be?
Sorry no idea. As with any scale build when pairing off the shelf mechanics with any fuselage - likely lots of customization involved. My FunKey fuselage page on my website shows all the major dimensions you have to take into account when sizing up any fuselage to any set of mechanics regardless of brand or size: www.rchelicopterfun.com/funkey-fuselages.html
Remember the Hirobo Gazelle from the 80s...
Hi ! What would be a good Scale Kit to start into the hobby ?
None. Learn on pod & boom first, and only once you master all upright orientations and rarely if ever crash, then you can start considering scale. I cover this scale topic in detail on my website: www.rchelicopterfun.com/scale-rc-helicopters.html
Thats interesting. When did the EC130-135 have only 3 main blades?
The single engine 130 has always had 3, the twin engine 135 (a very different helicopter) has always had 4.
were is mind Roban ec130 rc helicopter Fenestron tail is colsed tail rortor for safety and noes reduckshion john great video eh
Hi John, you seem very knowledgeable on helicopters do you fly helicopters for a living?
Wanted to and did take ground training but never went further due to cost & lack of job prospects. It's largely why I got into RC helis over 3 decades ago now and started instructing. Full story on my website if you want to be bored with the journey - 😄 www.rchelicopterfun.com/about.html
How about we dogfight with my homebuilt 800 size Mi-24 Hind D? :) well, maybe not: doing some night flying, I went into some power lines with it. :(
am planning to buy the h135 this year i dont know much about rc heli...what do i need to buy while ordering the heli...as a beginner
If you're a beginner, stay well away from any scale collective pitch heli, especially a Roban Super Scale. They are for advanced & experienced modelers with a good deal of large collective pitch building & flying experience. About the only thing less beginner friendly would be a large turbine powered model. Learn on smaller Pod & boom helis first, slowly working your way up to large ones. Once you rarely if ever crash anymore, you'll be experienced enough to take on a large scale build.
@@Rchelicopterfun okay sir
I see bears here in Montague New Jersey right by high point State Park!
Nice 👍
That is Papillon helicopters paint scheme lol. I have painted many of those helicopter
@Sincitygrower 702 - Right you are. The white "Grand Canyon" stickers came on a separate sheet if the owner chooses to apply them or not. I'm still undecided.
hi John,
who did you purchase this from? approximate cost? Do you have an ongoing heli site? I used to fly since the 80’s. Then I spent the last 20 years doing drones. However, having just retired, I want to return to helis😎. Things really have changed since my first Schluder (sp.?) Cobra…documentation also in German!
All in description as I stated in the video.
Thanks John, I love your videos.
I just wish Funkey would offer some new fuselages! Like this EC130...
@Jan R - Yes. The obvious issue would be finding a set of mechanics that would work. No off the shelf set has a 12:1 or thereabouts tail rotor gearing ratio (needed for a fensestron to work) nor any off the shelf fenestron tail rotors. I think for any scale fenestron model to exist, we are bound by the very few boutique scale RC heli manufacturers that offer them; both the fuselage and the mechanics specifically designed to fit them (Vario, Roban, Helikopter-Baumann & Heli Factory). I think there is one other manufacture as well that offers fenestron mechanics, but I can't recall the name??? Of of them all, Roban is by far the most affordable option 🙂
Good point about the tail gear ratio! Thanks for the reply.
0:06 0:01 Can you inform me please about the size/scale required for a pilot to fit this helicopter.thanks
About 1:7 scale. See final video in series: czcams.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/video.html
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John
Roban helis are great. I got 7 of then in 700-800 size. The only problem at the moment are spare parts and very unreliable Roban as manufacturer itself.
Very nice, how much was the kit?
As stated in the video, link is in the description.
@@Rchelicopterfun
Be jesus! £2 k
Don't crash or good luck getting any parts
"Don't crash" Brilliant advice for any large scale RC heli from any boutique manufacturer be it Alterbaum, Heli-Factory, Vario, etc. Regardless, never had much of an issue getting Roban parts. Easier, faster, & cheaper to import than Heli-Factory or Vario.
By any chance how do you get you're spares I have the 700 black hawk flew beautifully until I stripped the main gear nylon gear unfortunately left a shop rag near it while spooling up and tangles and stripped gear.
Mike Nemo from roban said he'll send out parts to me I sent him part numbers but no response after any clue if they will take care of it
@eduardo sierra - I've purchased Roban parts from both RC Aerodyne when they were the North American Roban dealer, and have purchased a few parts from Motion RC since they took over Roban. Never the main gear however; only tail drive gears and a couple shafts. Sounds like you went right to Roban which from what I've read in the Roban threads always works, so it's unfortunate you are not hearing back from them??? Covid has caused major issues over there as you likely know, so all I can think is they are running on a skeleton crew? Keep pestering them would be my advice. Motion will generally special order Roban parts in, have you checked with them? You may also want to contact RC Aerodyne in the off chance they might still have some Roban parts hiding in the back corner of the shop. Last options would be to contact one of the other Roban dealers around the world (UK, France, New Zealand, etc.). I've actually contacted the New Zealand dealer (RC Hobbies New Zealand), when I was looking for this kit and they were super helpful at getting me a quote and came in at a better price than Motion. The shipping of course from New Zealand to Canada was over double, so it still made more sense to order from Motion. Anyway, they really seemed like good folks, but so were Tim & Ed at motion. 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun thanks for the reply it's good to hear that roban will take care of it I'll hope for the best for now and I'll keep messaging them
My dream toy, but only dream 😴
Check time 1:31….did you happen to note the scene on the wall behind you?….cool doo….
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Fenistron is nice but I think NOTAR is a better system.
Right, you probably spent $100 or $250 going to Canada. oouch
May I ask why? Only one RC helicopter manufacturer I know of with a NOTAR model and that is Vario's MD900 which from what I've read & heard from a few who have flow it has extremely poor authority. Perhaps you know of one which works better? If so I would like to know.
As for import costs into Canada for this kit (shipping, brokerage, cross boarder taxes) more like $550.
@@Rchelicopterfun
Like i said oouch on the cost lol.
I was speaking in terms of NOTAR over Fenistron on real Helicopters but I know my friend duplicated the youtube video of the Blade 230S in scale body with NOTAR. It flies well.
Do you think direct drive tails or full collective tails are better?
Totally depends on size of the RC helicopter - I cover this in detail in the tail rotor article on my website: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-rudder.html
@@Rchelicopterfun
Ahh thanks i shall check it out
Mio marito ha montato questo modello purtroppo ingranaggio in teflon del rotore si è disintegrato senza ricevere il ricambio soldi buttati
Yummy
pilot yogi
Grown men and their TOYS…. like little kids
Absolutely and would have it no other way.
Good chance to learn german! 😜
You paid over 2 Grand for that! ?? Wish I had your money. After my stroke I lost my business and income. That's more than my SSI is per month.
Actually closer to $4K once electronics, LiPo's and shipping/import fees are added and worth every cent considering a comparable sized, fenestron equipped Vario, Alterbaum, or Heli Factory large scale RC helicopter would be at minimum double that. I know I couldn't put this package together for $2.4K considering the amount of time/cost spent with the molds, fiberglass layup, finishing, painting, fitment, and amount of carbon and aluminum machined parts all included. Hell, most of Vario's 160-170mm feneston tail mechanisms alone are over $800 USD. I suppose only scale RC helicopter enthusiasts who understand the hobby along with the work and time that goes into a kit like this can appreciate the value it offers.