Why I Don't Sell Motorized bikes.
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2020
- This week I'm fixing a bike that was loaned out for less than a week.
I'm using this experience to explain why I think it's a bad idea to buy/sell cheap builds.
IMO I feel it's better to build your own bike if you are on a low budget.
I'm also showing you what you might have to deal with if you sell cheap builds.
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This video is intended for low budget builds (buying/selling). There are high end "Tank" builds out there that can survive most buyers, but not for 300~ dollars...
Keep an eye on my "Community Post", I'll be asking you all what you want to see next.
Yup. I'd issues with buyers after private sales about 3/5 times. Now it's more like 1/5 times because I got smarter about how to sell things, though. Even the low budget stuff. When you describe an item, asking price and terms of sale, you gotta act like you're talking to somebody who can get offended rather easily, but who also lacks common sense. Still, that's more effort than should be necessary to sell something at a private sale and not get hassled about it later. I get why more people don't sell things. Dealing with people can be difficult at 1st, especially if there's money involved. Some people can't possibly be satisfied (lawfully & reasonably) anyway, and those people really aren't worth responding to in my opinion. There's a huge learning curve, that's for sure...
Wait high budget builds have issues as well. Not the "Tank" you might think. But do have fewer issues. I went the eco trans fi route with an auto shifting igh set up on the rear sprocket. Grubee frame, shift kit, tannus solid tires, etc,etc. It does ok for what it is. Gas mileage is unmatched by anything I have ever seen. Repairability and economy are it strengths.
@@kennynoble1223 Yes there is Kenny. Sales is an art form that requires many different skills. The ability to read your customer but one.
You must learn when to speak and when to shut up.
And to be painfully honest about it. The effort spend selling low end, small mark up products to 40% of buyers is break even on good days..
If you are selling a boat, motor and trailer for $50.00 . They will ask you if the taillights work.
What is the best kit to get for beginners
@@dariasaguilar707 my recommendation www.bicycle-engines.com/new-zeda-80-complete-80cc-2-stroke-motorized-bicycle-engine-kit-firestorm-edition/
I built my first bike when I was 10 I’m only 13 now but I totally agree just build a bike it’s simple not to mention cheaper and just gives you an understanding of how motors, bikes, and motorcycles work.
I built my first bike when i was 3, i'm 6 now and make about $45k a year building and selling these bikes.
14yo motorized gang helloo
@@dronestufftm gang gang
@Anthony 01 no it's true I was the bike
Some kids are prodigys bottom line.
Anybody who's had a motorized bike knows there is more time spent working on it than riding it.
As with almost any project motor vehicle lol
I don't find that to be true, unless I'm building tuning parts, I built a expansion chamber the other day
@@radicaledwards3449 For mine it's not really more time spent working on it than riding but there is a LOT of time spent working on it to the point it feels like there's more time spent on fixing it.
I'm only 1 month in to building/buying these and I've definitely been working on them more than riding them. It's quite frustrating.
@@Bh2Ohouse407 Honestly the beginning where you break everything in and get all the kinks worked out is horrible and you definitely do spend a lot more time fixing than riding but after ~800 miles I found that most problems stay fixed or you have figured out a way to efficiently deal with them.
I've bought and sold two and it's quick cash but you feel guilty knowing that someone's dreams where crushed by China quality motors
LOL! That made my night... Dream crushing China quality! Love it.
Lmaooo
Wrong tho there worth the money just if you get a month of fun, mine is 18 months old an running fine
What are some motor kits not made in china? For ebikes it is bosch, shimano and whatnot
@@LAHover anyone in the good ol USA that sells 4 stroke engines
Good advice. I had nothing but headaches and lots money lost trying to sell these for profit. Now I ride a 63cc friction drive daily and love it.
I’d suggest some cardboard on the grass or any work area. Helps me a-lot when nuts and washers get dropped.
Keep the videos coming 😀
After my experiences with these motors, I won't put another kit together without completely tearing down the motor and ensuring everything is cleaned, oiled, and sealed. It's even worth making sure the piston is oriented the correct way. If you're not sure, just move the piston manually until you can see the rings through the intake and exhaust ports. If you can see the small pin where the ring ends join through either port, your piston is installed backwards. Sometimes a small arrow will be etched into the piston top - this should point toward the exhaust port.
Are these Chinese motors of poor quality and assembly? How many motors have failed on you ? Bill
(Most are Chinese) Low to medium depending on what you buy usually medium to high if you rebuild it and love it like it’s your child…. Look at the Zeda series or if you have a strong bike and a knack for things like this, I’d suggest the phantom 85. I’ve seen some really amazing builds benifit from these sets. The phantom is a more powerful engine and can do all the things that happened to the bike in the video (which can be a downside, but done right you can go pretty fast and get a decent efficiency from it)
@@williamhaskellhaskell3162 I spent a good grand dong trial and error figuring out what works and what doesn't. I ran my 80 on nitromethane, gas, 2 stroke oil, and a little bit of molly anti-friction.It would easily hit 50mph with me being 6'5 and 270lbs That bike went through about 4 engines until I finally got it dialed to where I wanted it. Ran the last motor for a few thousand miles wide open throttle every day(not recommended) . Windowed and port matched piston, lightened the con rod, balanced the crank, upgraded clutch material, upgraded cylinder (stocks usually have closed off ports to expel crank case pressure when the piston goes from TDC to BDC) I got one milled for the ports to be open which allows more pressure to be vented and a heck of a lot quicker, 415 chain, upgraded chain tensioner, one piece magnesium wheels with the sprocket adapter built in, high compression head, reed kit, stage 2 cdi/coil, and a super magneto.
If you want a video of it running or a breakdown on part links and tuning I can be e-mailed at burgenergraysond@gmail.com. Cheers mate.
These bikes arent for the feint of heart. Build your own then you know.
Well said
Can't agree enough. People always give me compliments which is awesome but sometimes I wish I could just show them how much effort goes into keeping this thing running. I still love the looks people give me and the compliments but only the friend that rides with me knows the struggle of keeping it running how I want it.
Totally think the 4stroke is the way to go
This is probably simple compared to actual car motors. I've done 2 4 cylinders.
Interesting, I bought a used Road Master 80cc gas bike and it took me on an 80 mile 7 hour ride to Chicago and back home on one tank of gas, by the time I got home the break cable was extremely loose that there was basicly no breaks, I still have the bike and after tons of issues with the carb idle screw turning by itself, front breaks completely breaking, chain breaking a couple times, back tire popping, the broke the cap on the original carb just by trying to tighten it, also for a couple months I was running way too much oil in the gas mix and after all of this the bike is now running great, I understand how the bike works now and how to safely ride it, I would say overall I had a great experience buying my first gas bike used for $315 + $22 for the Uber ride I had to get to go buy the bike, then I road it back to my house lol.
These videos are damn near movie quality. Keep up the motorized bike videos everyone loves them.
Thanks! Lol I'm surprised no one noticed that annoying bird screaming into the microphone... Note to self, avoid nest :P
Yes great videos man!..all of them,learned so much and the drone videos too!
woop woop
“Tires lookin a little flat”
**takes another look**
“Nnnnah it’ll be alright”
Hahaha that’s literally every motor head ever
I bought a little tire foot pump to keep just for tires so I dont have to break out a compressor or go beg the gas station for free air evey 3 weeks
Gary Grinkevich my girls mom gave us one. It was the best gift anyone ever gave me lmao
@@MrPBCas "was"😂
I personally enjoy tinkering on my motorized bikes. It seems to make riding them much more exciting…especially when they work properly.
I tell people the same thing. If you put it together, you can do the maintenance. Yes, these engines do vibrate, and WILL shake EVERYTHING lose. The need to go over the whole bike with a wrench, after going out of a cruise.
Most have no idea what a torque wrench is for let alone how and when to use it. Torquing of the head.
Secondly if I build a bike and some takes it out and something goes wrong, I would be liable. So, the easiest and safest is to just say, "NO", build your own.
The hardest thing in putting one of these "kits" together is getting the rear driven sprocket installed straight and true.
Everything else is pretty simple.
The removing the slag out of the cylinders ports is the next thing that is hard to describe to a non engine guy.
To many people may want one of these but they don't want to try to do it for themselves. They seem to have it in their heads is it's handles like a car. If they put in the key and turn it, if it doesn't go VROOOM it's broke and have NO IDEA on how to fix it.
I recommend for anyone starting out is to go online buy the cheapest "kit" ( $99 )and put it together. This is because it's the easiest way to teach anyone on the operation of Gas Bikes.
I will oversee the build and lend assistance but I want then to build/assemble their bike.
Upgrading to a "Better" engine is then a pretty easy thing to change out. ($140 for a Stage 2 engine).
I am running a Stage 2 engine, balanced crank, Hi Compression Head, Tuned pipe, Big Box Reed, Hotter Ignition, hotter plug. I've been tinkering with the Main Carburetor Jets to get this engine to run in 2 stroke. 92 oct gasoline mixed with Stihl Chainsaw Premium Oil, @ 30 -1.
With a 44 rear sprocket, flat ground, no wind, short bursts, 43 MPH, likes to cruise at 27-28 mph.
One last thing....these engines perform the best when they are warmed up completely before hitting the road. Start the engine, let it idle. touch the head with finger as it warms up, when you can't keep your finger on the head it's warm enough to run.
I wish I saw this before I sold my two bike builds😭😭
10:45 someone’s rod knocking 😂😂😂
lol
I have built and sold many bikes. I ride all new builds to make sure that the motor is broken in correctly and all parts are tight. I use quality parts a nd have very few problems. I educate my customers on proper care and maintenance. My shop does all repairs and yearly tune ups. And lastly, l charge alot more than three hundred dollars for a well built vehicle.
Thanks for sharing.
I would say the easy answer is to give the buyer a sheet that tells how to properly care for and maintain the bike. Have two copies and make them sign it. One copy for each of you. Then you offer maintenance and repair service for a fee.
Just like any vehicle dealership you make money off the sales and service.
I would also not only out the bike together but break it in and then maintenance it before you sell it and charge more. Or alternatively you could offer either option at two different price points. One to break it in and the other without breaking it in.
Just finished my first build and appreciate all this in-depth information for future. Love all the videos
Now this EXACTLY sums up how one of my friends tore his up and broke a bunch of parts out of frustration. I spend so many hours into something as small as the old bushing of the Phantom 85. I mean I get frustrated but I'm not going to break something I've spent so much time on. You have to know your stuff before you buy one!
Everything you said sir is absolutely 100% right I would add I wouldn’t sell one of these bikes I built because they could get hurt and then sue you🤪
It wouldn't be your fault if you sold them ownership.
Ha ha, Yes Mr Hover, the idiot you loaned it to proved the old adage, "You can't fix Stupid" is still true! That was good wisdom you shared. The economy motorized bike sales is not for profit. I wondered why some bikes were so expensive. Then as I examined them closely, I saw they bought high quality frames to build on, or modified good frames by welding in specialty parts. Now, the bike is no longer bolt-on but custom, inc. painting & boom! Big Price. Thanks for speaking the hard truth! You may have saved a budding builder a lot of frustration. Cheers.
After decades of improving motorcycles and car there should be a company that does a really good job making motor bike kits. What are the best kits out there?
The one you build in your garage. You have total control over every aspect when you build it. I always start out with a cheap engine and tear it down to replace, machine, and inspect everything. I've built standard 2 strokes, high performance 2 strokes, nitro-methane 2 strokes, etc. I will always trust myself building them, grab a cheap engine or three and throw those upgraded parts on. It's a lot of test and tune lol.
I agree with your analysis. A friend of mine bought a used one once and he knew nothing about it. He brought it to me and I fixed it,,had it running and working perfectly.
He came over and I started telling him how it worked and he didnt listen and just took of on it. He went speeding out of sight and all I heard was him crash. He came carrying it back with a scrapped up leg and broken finger.
He took off full blast not knowing where the brakes were. I believe he hit the kill button to stop,,,and as soon as he let up on the button the bike started again and took off while he was turning. lol
Your channel is growing and you deserve it. Your production quality is perfect.
Thank you!
Thank you for filling me in on the specifics of these bikes.
spidy senses with that falling wd40 can
bought a motor, been watching your videos. I love the way you get into it with repairs and little bits of knowledge that comes from years of riding and fixing. just awesome
I’m a tall guy like you when I work I also sit on a bucket👍🏻🥴✌🏻😎
Ive broken my fair share of buckets and ended up on my ass. I still dont learn lmao
@@blickmoto Common buckets squaters are everywhere(laughs)
'older' is missing
The things you say in this video also apply to chainsaws I can't begin to tell you the stuff I had to repair when I got them back!! I just stumbled onto your channel but I mainly have seen your older videos and I like them. Have you thought about building a 4stroke bike? You do nice bike videos it would be interesting to watch . Thanks again nice video
Yeeeeyeee 🤘 la hover ma guy love the video and the tips is what tell people that wants to buy a motorized bike know what your getting your self into
Well said!
I built and sold around a dozen motorized bikes for profit before I realized it was wasn’t worth it. Like the man stated, the profit margin relative to effort wasn’t worth it. Not to mention the messages I would get from pissed off buyers asking for some kind of compensation only a few days after the sale. I remember receiving pictures from previous buyers showing a snapped frame, missing screws, broken spokes, etc. I felt bad for them and it was difficult explaining to them that this is what inherently comes with a motorized bike. It got bad, the final bike I sold pushed me to quit because the buyer literally threatened to kill me over $300. You’re probably better off drug dealing then selling motorized bikes (sarcasm).
almost 2 years later and im still trying to figure out how you got the bike started by lifting and spinning the back wheel
Did you have your "friend" watch this video? Because maybe you ought to.
There's a motorcycle book I remember reading from the 70's that's very first sentence in the book stated, "If you don't know how your motorcycle works, you have no business riding it." No truer words have ever been written.
Hey if you could give me a couple information on a 50cc motorcycle engine I went to put a starter on it and then I took the new start I mean you used carburetor and put on it and it runs okay and then I go to just get on it and ride it down the house it won't run all right I'll put the old carburetor back on it it run so what do you think is going on
I had the same type of problem but with my brother I was having an issue with the chain and I told my bother that and the motor was branded new out of box and I just let it idle threw a full tank and what does he do he goes wide open and chain popped off so he holds wide open and almost blew the motor up but it ran for about 5 to 6 moths then it blew up but I at least know how they work now.
On mine, Maintenance includes re-tighten engine mount nuts, chain tensioner loose often, exhaust pipe comes loose. Need to step up all washers and nuts. Double locking nuts I use(big improvement) i ONCE ran low on oil, engine siezed. Took it apart ,buffed insides to fix. I learned my lesson. Suggest nail proof tires and DOUBLE brake handle.(life saver)
Thanks for sharing
Where do you get double brakes??
@@MyCommentsRMaturelol I got mine online. Mine is sunlite dual brake lever. It's awesome. Sold on eBay and Amazon. $12-15 attach front brake cable and rear cable to one lever. I mounted it on right handle.
What if you change up the motor and figure a way to weld an engine plate on the bike
I have the A80 motorised bike kit
I bought a mountain bike and a new engine kit. The transmission is locking up. It made a crunching sound and the chain came off. I was lucky it was stationary and killed the motor. Where did you get a new shaft for the trans?
Have had countless issues of the engine having so much tourque it puts the wheel into the frame
How do i keep this from happening
When I’m pulling chains through I push it up in there with my hands till it comes down the backside then I take a small Alan key and hook it in the link. It works really good
What size wheel on this bike? 26?
The chain that you said was in need of replacement! He anyone saw the rusty chain on my old amf 8 years ago when I bought it, they would have replaced it but me, myself, I just oiled it and worked out all of the stiff spots! It's been so long ago that I don't remember what I used to oil it but it's still on there and you would never know!
Is that a Day Vision headlight on your head?
I bought my 1st bike. But it wasn't a average build it was a very nicely done Schwinn with a Springer frontend upgraded tank custom flaring (2 great panels both sides of top tube) and a flying horse motor tuned/jetted carb for $250 looks like a board track replica Tribute bike.. and im happy with it still even now that I've learned a ton built a few of my own. The idea was to buy 1 fully built study it learn from it build my own to learn and go from there. Had a good head start since i also build scooters/mopeds
I've built 2 electric and one with a chainsaw engine. I've got more hours into them, making them nice for ME, than I could charge for. People always ask why I haven't started building/selling and the primary reason is customers that don't know what they are getting into. I'd sooner disassemble them and throw them away than hear back from some jackoff that didn't know what they were doing and ruined them.
Spot on!
hi i someone else put on a relatively new autolite 216 spark plug, is that good enough for awhile? 50cc engine, heavy cheap mt bike, im going to be riding about 3 days a week averaging 10 miles, with small to medium some hills
Hey @LA Hover I was wondering if I could install my motor kit on a mountain bike. The motor fits and all that but I was wondering if I have to remove the gear or if there is anything extra I have to do when removing it to add the sprocket. Please help me out
Yes you can, and no you don't have to.
The motor sprocket goes on the left side of the rear wheel. You can keep your shifter...
You may have to get creative with where you mount everything on the handle bars but it can be done.
I personally just set the bike in a low gear and forget about the shifters. I also like to remove the crank shifter... I also like to stack both brake levers on the right handle bar or use a dual brake lever. in allot of my trail videos you can see how my handle bars are set up.
I ride mine to work 7 miles everyday at wot and have no issues I'm trying to blow it up cause I got a dio reed kit coming in qnd it just won't go
How tight do u tighten your headbolts to 15 or 17lbs with a torque wrench I used to own one but I left it behind by accident and I'm probably going to need to buy another one
120 in-lbs.
I know the tight fit frame problems. I got a Mongoose Mack that I motorized, had to put a short intake on it to fit the carb. Not to mention I have bolts up front longer than the factory engine studs to fit my triple forty to my bike.
I,have come across the same stupid people ..maybe he forgot to put oil in the gas too!!!
These bikes aren't "vehicles" in the usual sense. You don't just buy one and flog it for 3-5 years without giving a fuck.
This is a HOBBY, people. You buy one of these bikes/engine kits to tinker with and entertain yourself.
Yes, you can ride it to work, avoiding the police of course. But, it's *NOT* a late-model Toyota Corolla.
Well said
It is a hobby for those wealthy enough to have other means of transportation. For some, it is the only practical means of transportation.
@@seanrallis6714 That's true, although engine-powered bikes are very strictly illegal in Canada. In parts of the world where you can get away with it, they can be practical.
The best video man keep up man love the bike
I like your videos, you teach me a lot.
I couldn’t stop laughing most people are not handy. I had to learn to fix my bikes and go carts when I was younger we had no money to pay to get them fixed if we wanted to ride we fix them ourselves
I’m def gona build one of these but wanted to actually talk to sum1 about witch one to but I already got a good bike with shocks and disc breaks it’s a good bike jus not sure if Itl fit
I wonder often how certain people make it through life. Even without a chain saw motor bicycle to work on.
What bikes do you recommend to buy to put these engines on? What are the names n size n tire size?
I have no problem with 26in and bigger some 24 in backs moter dont fit right but all depends on the bike
Very wise words my friend, love your channel!!
Great tutorial. Really. Smart guy.
ok i like your video i bought a 2 stroke 80cc online and it did good untill about 50 miles than it started loosing power so i took it apart and found out the hole where the piston gose in (sorry not a machanic) was burned up like it was chiping away like it was painted did you have any problem like that before if yes do you know why because im scard to buy another one but i love to just don't like wasting money
The cylinder lining is what I think you are talking about. Yes I have had it happen once on a new (cheap $100) motor kit.
Now, every motor I get I take off the cylinder and clean it. Most of the have flakes of metal left over from casting that can destroy the lining.
a new cylinder will run you about $20.
Also be sure to take it easy during the first tank of gas on the new cylinder.
Question what was your oil ratio?
@@LAHover the oil I use is the small bottle of oil you can get at Walmart that says one per gallon, I mix it up in a container before I put in the tank
@@LAHover I wanted to get me one so I can do a ride around in Japan on the bike
I like your bike stand!👍
What’s your opinion on coaster brakes on a cruiser?
I was fine with using one, but If you ride in hilly areas or if you want to go fast they kinda suck IMO.
God bless you for all your good content and education about motorized bikes
I build and sell motorized bicycles in Tampa. All i can say is people as a whole are dumber than a box of rocks . They all call me 700 times a week wanting a motorized bicycle but only have $20 to spend . And people thinks my shop hours from 8am- 4pm mean im suposed to be open at 1 am . Thats when the phone rings the most . Or they buy a motorized bicycle and totally think it is suposed to out run the fastest production motorcycle made .
Or they buy one from someone else and they break it but it's my foult and i have to repair it for them for free .or they think these bikes have a forever warranty. It realy is amazing how stupid people are and no matter how many times you tell them these are designed to be ridden at 20mph every single one of them head out down the road engine never been broke in wide open full throttle all the way .and call 10 minute later I'm on I-75 and it won't keep up with highway traffic you robbed me . Ya it is a major head ache and you deal with the stupidest people on the planet.
And to top it all off, if you want to build a high quality bike with a "high" quality motor, they look at the price and say. "I could buy a used motorcycle for that price" ... And you are stuck there reminding them about registration, tax, insurance, and license.
I feel your pain Brother lol
@@LAHover 99% of them want the cheapest thing they can buy and for those who are serious buyers $400 is the cap if i have a $450 bike it'll sit for 6 months to a year
Sounds like you're dealing with crackheads.
@@charlesyates2208 not to mention that with the sales price comes a lifetime service contract.....
i build and sell them to make some money and it’s great, i get them from a website in my country who gets them from china and strips them down and greases and inspects everything and i’ve never had a problem. i’ve recently found a bike i built pop up on facebook marketplace about 2 years after i built it and it still goes great.
i’ve sold about 15 so far and no one has came back to me saying it has issues
Dude had me cracking up , his description of the situation was hilarious 😂.
now that was really real! thanks for sharing that.
A great video again
Great advice... thx, man!
Glad it was helpful!
Bikeberry sells the switz-cruz combination
However the motor and bike are delivered seperate
The bike sells for 340$ before discounts 314$ if on sale
They are having trouble keeping them in stock because of demand
You can prime the head with a drop or 2 of fuel through the spark plug hole, put the plug back in and it will fire right up.
Lol my first motor I got 2 months ago was a bad one. Am going to tear it apart later and see if I can save it.
Please keep making motorised bike videos I really like them. Buying engine bikes assembled ruins the whole experience. I made my bike myself and had to deal with all the issues (there was alot) but now I can deal with any issue on my bike and it is reliable because I have prevented any issues that could happen. The bike is 25 years old, has no suspension and is rusty but I ride it flat out all the time. Yet it is still reliable. Buying a bike pre assembled is stupid because you don’t know how to fix it or the issues which are specific to the bike.
This video was helpful!
The big problem is that these are kits. The strength you get from welding everything together snd using heavy-duty parts meant to endure vibration is just not given to you. I think you could use these motors for a product, but man you would have to know what your doing and be willing to test every part.
If you go to www.thatsdax.com they have high high compression cylinder head made for a moped that you can use for the engine and may other parts if if your shoping in the future
lent a bike to a friend to go put in job applications and he blew it up because he was going flat out around town in 90 degree weather. in his defense i didn't thoroughly explain to him why he should baby the thing and go wide open in short spurts. but he knows a little here and there about working on cars and all that. so i just expected him to assume that cheap china doll motor = its not a dirt bike.
nope. not only did he cook the thing, he decelerated it a ton so it was continuously starved of oil and ignored the fact that the clutch screw was almost completely backed out. so the clutch is gone to. so instead of rebuilding the motor and risk the casting being cracked somewhere because of how hot it was getting, im just gonna buy a phantom 85 gen 2 and throw that on it.
still wont confront me at all about it either which pisses me off even more.
Ouch, sorry to hear it... Yeah with these, the only one riding it should be the one who built it, they are too picky.
I used to sell them had many come back to my shop….one guy decided to listen to one of his dumb friends, and use 1 teaspoon of conventional engine oil….the damn thing wasn’t even broke in, I told him how much it’s gonna cost to fix, and it’s going to require a new engine, and 50dollars in labor, he refused to pay, and said it wasn’t his fault….I include a small bottle of 2 stroke oil, and a manual for Maintenance, and tear down….it was indeed his fault….and to throw the free two stroke oil away with the manual with instructions on the fuel, and oil mixture?
To make a long story short….he didn’t get his money back.
Many ppl blow the engine, because they flog the hell out of it constantly, and clutching it up hills instead of pedal assisting the engine….clutching is when they rev the shit out of it and continue to bump the clutch until they can lay back on the throttle to climb the rest of the hill.
I have that same bike and engine and I love it
I got flying horse brand new that's a lemon the crank mess up when got it
Madmatts custom motorbikes. My last two stroke went 50 mph on a Fat tire bike. I sell suspension upgrades, you name it. Ported milled windowed ramped third transfer port and 24 to 26 mm carburetors with dio reeds. My last four stroke fat Moto I put a header pipe on it remove the governor replace the carburetor and put a smaller sprocket on it. 12 gauge spokes.
CAN FLEX RIMS BE USED FOR CHAIN SPROCKET
Sorry, I don't know what those are.
@@LAHover The RIMS THAT ARE SPOKE LESS
@@LAHover for now check my profile picture :)
I just bought a motorized bike like yours in the video for $150 and I knew it had issues as he told me. With that said, I will tare it down to put on a Cruiser bike frame that I picked the cruiser bike up for $25. It will be my winter project for spring time so I can upgrade it every month little at a time. At least I can get a feel for riding one as I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS before. LOL. Got my crash pillows just in case. He said it takes an 18:1 mix as I have seen many take a 40:1 mix. Still learning and watching CZcamss.
how i make money selling bikes... lets say i built a 200cc cruiser bike off a full suspension super cycle hooligan had 21 inch and 19 inch dirt bike tires on it... cost $1700 to build it. sold it with a worn out clutch spring. but how did i make money on it? used it to get around the city cheaper then a cab even cheaper then a bus ticket. and after getting some attention from building it and driving it around the city for an entire year with no problems... an opportunity came up... so i drove it 250 miles to a even bigger city and was sold something worth way more then the bike... so i drove the 5 hours to get back home with a 120lb engine strapped to the back rack... i got around on a $100 pawn shop bike, then did $1600 in work to it... to then use it to drive a vary long way to pick up a dirt bike engine that a dealership took as a trade in. i put in $2500 of work into it to pick up what i thought was $700 of dirt bike parts from 250 miles away... once i got the dirt bike finished i sold the 200cc bike for $300. I made $6000 in material wealth by using that 200cc bike in a progressive manor. BTW i made a video of the 200cc bike i made, but you'll need a welder to make a copy of one... welding courses can be vary expensive but were i live and the school i went to, i was tough welding and lots of other things as a mandatory courses needed to take so i could graduate and get a diploma. writing was one of many things, separates one from the other vary easily. :)
You still using a large sprocket on your build?
On my trail bike yes. This one is stock
Where u get the mirrors
The one I used on this bike was a two pack, but you can search for "bike mirrors" on amazon to find what you like.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BR4NIC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fixing start my build soon with beach cruiser
When will we see a electric bike kit?
I drive 10 miles to work on my bike mainly going full throttle, not much problems through out the 6 months of me doing that, haven't replaced my engine yet.
I build motorized bikes for speed not to cruise around lol
I built one of these bikes my self on a 20 inch sting Wray frame, but I do buy pre built ones just cus they were a good deal I bought one for $60 at a pawn shop clearance, I only bought it cus it was a good deal and it was I got lucky and I didn’t need to do much work to it
Sweet deal. Even if it's for parts that's a good find.
I take mine on 10 mile, 35 mile trips frequently. With the port work I do on every cylinder and my aftermarket head, exhaust, 36t sprocket I get approximately 200 miles of mostly highway trips out of a top end. I recently found the best chain so chain breakage is not a problem anymore, but usually it's a ring that goes. Last time, I lost my wrist pin bearing I had used since the engine was new two years ago and four or five top ends ago. I'd say I'm pretty much a motorized bike veteran at this point and I gave up on trying to make a business out of it the first year! Too much labor for too small a profit margin.
200 miles per top end seems a bit low. Was that a typo?
@@LAHover I should keep better track of mileage but it is my only form of transportation so I always forget. It was kinda just a number I pulled out my ass. It's quite a bit more, let's see I changed my top end due to failure twice last year and I'm just breaking in the most recent new one -first time this year I do ride pretty much year round too so yeah, it was a typo, lol.
How many miles will these motors last stock ? I'm going to motorized my bike . what advice do you have ? Bil
Ive found with the spokless wheels and right tensioner, i have had better luck
I made the mistake of buying an 80cc two stroke motorized bike from Facebook marketplace, I wish I would have built it cuz it was sloppily put together and took a ton of maintenance anyway.
Good vid pal.
By the way I'm watching now on CZcams about bicycle so I really need to know some information on that part so I'm going to have trouble man it's running good with old carburetor so I'm going to put it back on there butby
No matter how good I build a gas bike…people manage to still break them.
The Kind of people not to sell to is people who want to use them for daily transportation.
They think they can get on them, and flog the hell out of the throttle, they also don’t listen to a thing you say, and end up breaking them…I even provide a Manual that come with the kits, and they just toss or loose them’ the manual provide the gas and oil ratios’ 50:1 to break in the motor.
I had one guy use only gas and the engine seizes…he blamed me for not explaining it’ Despite me providing the two-stroke oil’ I sell them with new engines and bikes, and provide the 2 stoke oil..
I had another guy bring the bike in ‘every time he gets a flat tire’ I explain in detail how to remove the back tire…AND HE STILL BROUGHT THE BIKE IN DUE TO ANOTHER FLAT…HE PAYS FOR THE LABOR….BUT I SIMPLY DON’T HAVE THE TIME’ I finally tell him he’s on his own’ some people are ignorant..I have set times I’m opened and close ‘9am to 6pm’ they end up showing up at 9pm..l get nasty text’ on my business phone’ cursing me for having to travel far’ I don’t care how far they travel….my rules are rules.
I also refuse any returns…the bikes are tested every week for bugs in the build, I also ride the bike to prove they run.
They left in one piece, and ran when they purchased them…I even put sold as.
I never had any buyers break a chain’ I use jack shaft kits’ I finally went to e-bikes only’ gas bikes are a major headache.
Dang those no bike building, high revving long periods of time, no bolt tightening bike breakers, just baby it and it will lasting long time
What the fuck did you type David
Just subscribed...your channel is awesome....
The same thing happened when I let a friend borrow my bike I got it back with the rear wheel spokes broken found out the idiot was jumping a wooden ramp in the middle of the street something a 10 speed racer bike isn't designed for.
Rule #1 never lend your bike, rule #2 never lend your bike, rule #3 repeat rule1 and 2. I motorize vintage bikes like the schwinn choppers, spiders, and 50's and 60's beach cruisers with suspension springs in front of the handle bars. I sell my bikes to businesses like bike & motorcycle shops or any interested business for display or collection. One customer had his orange county schwinn chopper mounted in his gameroom and looks beautiful all chrome w/red tone. I do after market engineering and replace better quality nuts and bolts, I replace chains with higher quality chains from Tractor Supply, developed a way to keep the tensioner provided permenatly bolted and keep it from sliding back and forth or sideways, and so on. I do advise the customer that they can use the bike otherwise as a daily ride, but requires constant maintenance and longevity of this kit is low. It's a hobby and I'm on my 40th build and it's my 11th orange county Chopper and my last build. Moving on to other projects.
Love the way you put that about the people having to learn about their motor bike..
I believe this should also be included towards vehicles..
because not a single person knows what the noise is that their cars making before the wheel comes off or say the brakes go out or any of that not anyone pays attention that cuz they got insurance to cover for ...
I think a person that drives their car and they're wheel comes off for their brakes go out I think they should be reprimanded into a fashion there's a lot more than just getting covered by their insurance say maybe all Learners course to what a vehicle's noises sound like when it's about to have seah ball joint go out a tie rod or the upper strut mount a sway bar..
Your rear drum brakes..
No one pays attention to this because they got insurance I think anyone that has an issue in this fashion should be reprimanded by the courts to take a learner's course
I tend to sell hand built $400 motors sitting on $1,000 bikes and I sell them for about $2,500$. I build only the best. My last bike was a fat tire Mongoose aluminum frame with a hand built two-stroke ported with a 24 mm nibbi carb on it, expansion chamber and everything you could imagine. There is a whole different culture where people build the finest bikes you can imagine. I essentially sell high-end dirt bikes that can ride on the road. Hit me up if anybody wants one. lmaooo$100 bike $100 motor you would never catch me doing that. My last build alone cost me $1,300.