Thank You so much for not giving in to the culture, but speaking the word of God and the order of things. And we all need to humble ourselves before the Lord.
Amen. I now have a better understanding of this topic. I feel like I can now make improvements upon myself as I continue to read, study, and meditate on the Word. God bless you brother John. Your lessons are helping me to better understand the Word. At one point I was the breadwinner while my husband was the home maker. I asked God to switch our places because I hated working and my husband wanted to work. God answered my prayers and now I'm a homemaker and love taking care of my children while my husband goes off to work. I now have a better relationship with my husband and our marriage has significantly improved ever since God has answered my prayers. Most importantly, i have veen so much closer to God than I ever have been. God is good all the time.
My wife has made a church and is the pastor there. Her pride is full and her teachings are for her glory than Gods and His Sons glory. Please pray for our family
For starters it says in the Bible! Woman are not to be head of a church. So she shouldn’t be a pastor. You being the head of the wife should tell her this. I’ll pray for you to be full of wisdom to do this. 🙏
Today I was kicked out of a Bible study for sharing that I believe women should not be Pastors according to the book of Timothy. Please pray the truth is revealed, and pray captives are set free. Thank you.
DTBM teaching on head coverings and women Pastors is one of the best I have ever heard being a born again Christian 45+ years. Some things he taught I did not know...WOW. What he said makes perfect sense
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Because a lot of good women are offended by this teaching , I think this gentleman done a superb job because he handled the word of God with sincereness , love , and a desire not to offend anyone . If a person is offended by the word of God , it's because of one of two reasons . It's the attitude of the teacher doing the teaching or the person being taught , absolutely is not willing to follow the instructions of God . For either reason , the person will not hear you . If they hear you , they may not agree right at the time , but they will at least consider what's been taught . I thought this gentleman done a superb job at delivering his message !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I already believed what was the end result of his message , but I will have to confess , I did not completely understand the scripture . Whether or not , I understand the scriptures being taught , I totally agree with this passage of scripture . Romans 3 : 3-4 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect ? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged . ----------------------------------------------------------------------Ernest E. Johnson
Women wore head coverings in church in every culture and church until after World War II. I think doing away with the head covering has more to do with the influence of a weaker view of biblical authority in the West since many churches in Asia and Africa continue to wear a hat or head covering.
Head-coverings were prescribed for male priests under the Law. Which is why Judaism still prescribes the yarmulke today. If I Cor 11 means a man wearing a cloth on his head while praying dishonors Christ, why didn't Jesus himself address the subject? Why wasn't it a bigger issue in the early church? Why did the church of Acts continue to keep the law and to worship in the Temple?
@Ana Maria Actually... it's not an excuse. Remember, when we point fingers, there are several more pointing back at ourselves. We could actually have a conversation about the Biblical basis for NOT believing like the Mennonites teach... or we can retreat into our corners and pitch accusations back and forth.
polly jetix I agree. There is too much legalism in this subject. As Christians I agree we should be encouraging in this subject and not divided on small matters such as these. I'll wear a hat if I have to, but so far I haven't found anything that states that unmarried women need to wear one.
Thank you for explaining this in a way that was thorough and well studied. Thankful in this age that there are scholars who care still about the truth of scripture and it's meaning, and with a kind spirit share that with the followers of Christ.
He destroyed the head covering by using history. But 1 Corinthians 11 say the head covering should be practice today and you agreed with that fault teaching
What true words you have spoken. I shed tears when I think of all the babies shipped off to daycare at 3 months or younger. And yes mothers are not teaching the gospel to their children, unless you mean the new age gospel.
What about single moms working to keep a roof over those kids' heads?? My kids' dad died before they were grown..and before that I took care of him when he had cancer too..he did not die of cancer...sure I put work before God..not proud of that..BUT Judge NOT lest yea be judged!! I do regret not doing more spiritually..but I struggled..I DID try to get them to go to church when they were teens..but they fought me on it..so I turned to Christ in prayer since then!..I was shocked recently when my older kid was having a frustrating time..and they finally got help and I heard her say "Thank God".. she's been an Atheist..so I believe she's starting to see His Love!!.. God's time is not my time.. forcing my kid to believe makes it artificial..she has to CHOOSE to believe to make work for God/Jesus..the best I can do is live my life as best I can in Christ as an example!!
A lot of churches wouldn't exist because men have fallen away from the church. What about people who are already living at the lowest financial point possible? Some men, believe it or not, are fine with their wives supporting them, so they don't have to work.
Women have the wonderful privilege of showing all who make up a fellowship of believers what their attitude should be toward Christ - men have the most serious "picture " to act because they represent the Lord himself - therefore we are for a short time showing two different roles to understand the great love Christ has for his church and her glad submission to His loving care. No need for this beautiful picture when we are with Him forever!!
I remember in the 50's and 60's going to church where women covered their heads, the sense of humility and respect for God was incredible. I don't see this anymore. Mr. Barnett missed the mark on head coverings. God's Word is not based on culture.
Angels are the messenger slaves that acted as postal/social media/messengers in the city who would spread false reports about the church if they saw unseemly behaviour.
@@andrewplater1782 Just out of curiosity, how can the slaves spread false reports if the reports are of unseemly behaviour? Would it not be just reporting the behaviour? And if the behaviour was unseemly, why would they need to spread a false report? Am I missing something?
All I wanted to ever be was … a child of God, a good wife and a life with God bearing children ! It’s been a journey .. LOTS of ups and downs !! But.. we just celebrated our 35th wedding anniversary, our 25 th year in business and our sons 23 rd birthday!! Praise Jesus !!! All I wanted was a FAMILY !! Did you know … that’s what Jesus wants from us too .. A FAMILY IN CHRIST !!! Amen
Part of God's is-Paul teaching women to pray in church. 1 Corinthians 11:4-5 states that all women should cover their heads while praying or prophesying.
*Prophets* This one is very important for a reason that I will bring up later. 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 “Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.” 2 Things here: “Two or three prophets should speak” - 1 Cor 14:29 “And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop - σιγάτω (sigatō) - .” - 1 Cor 14:30 The word here also is the same as the others - σιγάτω (sigatō). Today’s Application The point here is also, there are very strict instructions for Prophets to dicern what other Prophets are saying - I’ve not seen very many “Prophets” interpreting one another. But the bigger point here is that if Prophets and those speaking in tongues have this type of restriction - how much more of a restriction to everyday men have? No one is to be disruptive. Women 1 Corinthians 14:34 34Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) -, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) - in the church. Today’s Application Now, when looking at each of these cases before, people speak in tongues all the time and over each other, if someone is an actual prophet, I’ve not seen other prophets to interpret that word right there - and the number limitations for each of these are strict. Are these followed? No, and we all know they aren’t. Even within this particular verse - are women actually forbidden from speaking in Churches? Wouldn’t it be disgraceful for us to allow that any where? But how many churches do you know that actually don’t allow women to speak at all as this verse says? So here we get to the meat of this particular issue, and I am going to bring several, Biblical and grammatical points to this verse. The assumptions that people gather, from this: This is referring to all women Women are to never ever speak in Church And that is disgraceful for a women to speak at all in church. Let’s look at the greek for this: It doesn’t actually ready “women” It reads, The women. The definitive article might seem contrite, but it’s really not when we are looking at the true meanings of a sentence and its structure. This is important because we have to look at the next part of this. “They should ask their own husbands; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the Church.” Why would there need to be a distinction between The women and also their own? That is a bit odd, if this is blanked statement about all women and them not speaking in Church. It is clear that these particular women are asking questions to people OTHER than their own husbands, that this is about women speaking out of turn and being disruptive and asking any one anything. You may think this is a stretch, but if a woman doesn’t have a husband, then why would Paul need to make this particular distinction, not just to ask their husbands, but to ask their own husbands. The word for woman in greek is γυναῖκες gynaikes - This is also used for wife when it’s speaking in relation to giving husbands an instruction. (Colossians 3:18, Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1). So this is clearly talking about the wives, whom Paul had gotten report about, that were spouting off and asking other peoples husbands, and not paying attention in Church. The further reasoning for this goes to the next point which is contradictory to the command for silence - σιγάτω (sigatō). Women are never to speak in Church Paul didn’t just say that, but He said that it was disgraceful! Well - when looking at the instructions for wearing veils - Paul not only says that it’s ok for women to speak, but he would be including them in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 of being able to stand with the men and prophecy. 1 Corinthians 11:2 - 5 2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, a and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is the same as having her head shaved. Now here is something so interesting - Paul is giving women instructions for wearing a head covering - while praying and prophesying! Women speaking in the Church and Paul Approves Is he then giving these women also the instruction to not speak and that it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak in Church? It can’t be. Because he is directly addressing their authority to be able to pray and prophesy in the Church. So thus this first instruction is to be looked at not in terms of ALL women - but a particular set of them, who were being rowdy, and asking men other than their husbands questions. Going back to 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:27 - these are instructions not just for men, but ALSO for women. Thus everyone was under the exact same rules for being silent in Church if you weren’t speaking in tongues with and interpreter, prophesying, or doing another approved practice. But again, isn’t it odd, that Paul would have to tell men to NOT cover their heads? This is because of the practices of the day when they would sacrifice to their pagan gods - that men would also cover their heads. Further more - when we look at the rest of the discussion about women wearing veils - the discussion of long hair comes up. 1 Corinthians 11:14 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, Here we have another rule for men that we don’t strictly enforce today with men having long hair. But regardless, there are very few churches that make women wear a veil in church, I do not know of one personally. So Now let’s head on over to the big boy 1 Timothy 2:12 - “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” When looking at this all of the above is needed for the proper context into what this means, and the getting used to the idea of deeply looking at what the greek means, what Paul means, and the role of women in the Church. I rarely hear, if ever, someone dig very deeply into this with the furor that is used for other issues, and this is why I totally understand your take on things. So we have established in 1 Corinthians several things: Paul seemingly said that women are to remain silent and that it’s disgraceful for them to speak The use of the same greek word for silence used in relationships to Prophets and those speaking in tongues The conclusions after digging into these are such: The context of all of this is pertaining to having order in the Church and making it so that outsiders could come in and get saved Paul clearly affirms women who pray and prophecy - as he speaks of the proper head coverings for them in relation to praying and prophesying Thus Paul is couldn’t be referring to all women when he was speaking of instructions for them - as there would be a clear contradiction here The rules were for men and women who were not in any authorized way participating in the learning and sharing of Christ and His Teachings (They weren’t teaching from the NT because it hadn’t been written yet) Everyone was required to keep silent in Church
I love watching this gentleman, I am able to actually study my bible along with learning from a very knowledgeable person. These videos, Carter Conlon and Paul Washer are such amazing teachers.
David, unless you're Jewish - you were never asked to keep Friday 6pm Sabbath beginning. It's in the OT instructions to Israel. Christianity was given New Testament commitments
With regards to hats it says a man should not cover his head. If it was about authority as described in this video, that would be saying man should not be covered by Jesus. Likewise in the passage "a woman should cover her head" is not about a man's authority should cover her as the video says but the passage is exactly what is says, meaning covering the head on her body. The passage says if a woman doesn't cover her head she might as well have her hair cut off. Notice it doesn't say she might as well be divorced or single. It's talking about her literal head that needs to be covered, while a man literally should not cover his head. As for everything else that was very good. Men don't cover your head in church. Women cover your head in church when praying and prophesying. God bless you brothers and sisters. Peace be with you all 🙏🙏
@@thomassmithson5795 This is the reason why I just read the scriptures and I allow the HOLY SPIRIT to put the truth in my heart ( we should rest not do works) let him The HOLY SPIRIT work for us he will guide us to the answers, sometimes we get in the flesh and try to figure out the scriptures on our own ( using our own knowledge instead of his. I thank the HOLY SPIRIT for giving you this revelation to explain you made good points blessings.
@@allenbrininstool7558 It's not a law that we must fulfill to be righteous. It's an ordinance that we perform because we are righteous, in Christ. It's proper conduct, prescribed for Christians under the new covenant, - that are designed to keep us, and guide us. If we start setting aside things that we are told to observe, what are the consequences, and where will it end. Sin is transgression of law isn't it? Is the commandment to love God and love our fellow man as ourselves, law also, that we're not under ?
Love the ending so true. God bless women that stay at home. A true Godly family will lead the way in strenth love, prosperity and in finances. In the fifties women stayed at home and everyone that followed Christ prospered. And were happy and healthy, and it didn't take 2 wages to buy a house.
We have this thing called inflation....50 years ago a carpenter would support his household and relatives and yet today I can tell you they his household alone can be a pain in his pockets... there's no scripture denying women from working to support her family, in fact laziness is discouraged
God does answer prayers! I have waited for this one a long time, thank you so much for answering questions Dr. John Barnett for doing the work of our Lord. Blessings to you and Bonnie and Co.. Shalom from Denmark
When a man uncovers his head to pray or prophecy, he publicly declares his submission to God, When a woman covers her head to pray or prophecy, she publicly declares her submission to God, by declaring her submission to her husband.
Amen. 1 Corinthians Ch 11.. It is true, we must read the bible and take it for FACE VALUE. Sometimes we pick and choose. We think times change and people must change their ways to fit the changes, and yet then we say " God never changes and never changes His mind" We cannot have it both ways. What the bible says, it says. We must follow it the best we can. We just cannot make up things as we go to fit our "world view" I agree Frank. You read the scripture and took it for "face value" women in pants was not as expected either for women . Women do not dress as men nor women as men, and we must try to dress 'humbly'. We follow the bible.
The unsubmissive culture of the Women's Lib Movement has infiltrated the church. If men love their wives as Christ loved the church, to the point where he gave himself for it, and women submit to their husbands, there will NEVER be a problem (Eph.5). Both must honor their roles.
What if she has no husband? Do you guys just pull this stuff out of a posterior orifice? BTW, Jesus said that he was the fulfillment of all prophecy and the last prophet. Men who claim to prophesie today are charlatans, without exception. And, because of what Jesus said, Revelation CANNOT be a prophesy. Sorry. I know your whole belief system is centered around Revelation and Paul. Me? I'm sticking with Jesus.
@@efandmk3382 You're sticking with Jesus? Jesus is the one who gave the revelation to Paul FOR THE GENTILES. Okay? (Gal. 1: 1 to 12, Acts 22:6 to 21). Try reading the Word before making comments.
@@efandmk3382 Now you're doing exactly what was addressed in 1 For 3. Also, please understand how the word prophecy/prophesy should be defined. Yes, there an aspect, which you allude to, of foretelling. But equally if not much more often, the word simply means to *declare* or to *expound.* So on Sunday mornings, a preacher expounding scripture is prophesying. But you are right in concluding that there is no new revelation in terms of equal to scriptural authority. New revelation today comes in the form of understanding the truth given in the 66 books of the bible.
Amazing amount of respectful replies for an issue that is easily settled Biblically but hotly disputed socially! Thanks for showing that Gods Word will stand up for itself when applied with understanding and that sometimes we must go deep and search out these truths to explain why this is as important now as when it was written. I also love what you said about the role of women in the home as a mother as a home maker. There is simply no more influence that a lady of God can have in society than to be a loving, kind, nurturing, teacher and mother and run her home in a business like manner. You want real respect, let that home shine from a productive and wise lady’s rule. The proverbs 31 woman sets such an awesome an example. Finally, children well behaved, thoroughly instructed in all discipline are absolutely a crown to husband and wife...Women who have cast off motherhood as a burden and as a reason to resort to abortion as a means of birth control and as a convenience for their lack of planning bring judgment not only on themselves but on this nation. there is no more power that a lady can wield Than she can as the matriarch of a fine godly home Where children and grandchildren are arrows... blessed be the mother whose quiver is full. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world ladies. God bless
A quick search in church history shows that the church interpreted it to be a physical covering “This is only 150 years after the Apostle Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. Tertullian said, "So, too, did the Corinthians themselves understand [Paul]. In fact, at this day the Corinthians do veil their virgins. What the apostles taught, their disciples approve.””
This is a good lecture. But the part I didnt hear him say was tje woman headcovering / scarf was part of their tradition because they felt that the womens long beautiful hair is what attracted and tempted the angels as they looked down from above and also that long hair was somehow linked to a woman fertility and the way pregnancy happened and this is also part of the reason they believed the head covering was neccessary
HiDollaHoney - strange handle for a Christian woman! Prostitute or lover of the things of the world? But I digress, just wanted to point out your comment isn't sourced from scripture, BUT from world view interpretation of "sons of God & nephilim". Simply man's imagination, not God's word. Just read the word, not between the lines.
Studying this in culture, women only stopped covering their heads in the 20's. So why would it be church doctrine throughout all ages if we are not suppose to take it literally?
Consider though, that all of Protestant doctrine is derived through either Catholic doctrine, or by reaction against it. And we know the Catholic church destroyed and revised history to make themselves look correct. . If we go back to the early church, we know the first century original church continued to keep the Law of Moses, and to worship in the Temple. . Now, the Law of Moses prescribed head-coverings for male priests. But the Law prescribed no head-coverings for females, anywhere! There are cultural references to it, but it was never part of God's prescribed law! . If this was a huge change from the Old Testament to the New, then why wasn't it addressed as such, by Christ, and by the Apostles in the book of Acts? . After all, the headcovering teaching says if a man prays or prophesies with his head covered with a cloth, then he actually dishonors Christ! . Logic says if that is the case, then Christ himself would have addressed the subject strongly.
@@ashdeez6552 Look at the Greek word that was translated 'angels'. It doesn't always mean angelic beings. Instead, it literally means, "messengers." And often, this Greek word is used to mean human messengers. In 1 Cor 11, there's no need for it to mean angelic messengers. Instead, if we let it mean what it means naturally - simply, messengers - that fits perfectly with the cultural view! . After all, if a messenger is sent from one church to another, how is he to know who is a recognized Christian in the local body? Especially if some are dressing like idol temple prostitutes!?
@@pollyjetix2027 your interpretations goes beyond the Scripture and right into your own understandings .. of how you want it to be.. i trust you hate order and submission to the Word of GOD
If a husband is the wife’s spiritual head, then he becomes the mediator between her and Christ, just as popes and priests mediate between Catholics and God. Roman Catholicism on the level of the family. Quite the contrary, being saved means having a direct relationship with God through Jesus Christ, regardless of your gender. No mediators. I believe there were problems in the Corinthian church with super aggressive, verbally contentious women, and Paul was addressing the conflict they were causing, balancing the resulting disorder with rules meant to preserve the group.
Jesus Doctrine You’ve beautifully expressed the highest truth of a Christian marriage. I was commenting upon a less empowering understanding of Christian marriage that sadly exists too.
+cedubs999 -- Spiritual head of the family *does not* mean mediator between anyone and God. Seems you need further study on this. You're way off base. (It was actually the men Paul had trouble with at Corinth). Again, further study needed... I mean no offense.. There are LOTS of things I need further study in. I just happened to have done this section of 1 Corinthians already.
If you keep reading in context... It says that God does not hold you to legalism... But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. I Corinthians 11:16 NKJV Yes we are all under a covering and authority. But not against wearing a hat or mitpachat or hijab or burka etc.. as some middle East women do. This is a law or culture that man added. Yet also having long hair is also considering having a long beard. So as it is written that God does not hold you to that debate.
Yup. So many sexist comments that degrade women, and they don’t ever talk about unmarried women for some reason. Yes women are different then men, but we are in no way inferior intellectually or otherwise except for physical strength most of the time. Women can still hold a leadership role in the church and teach other women. Just not be a pastor or preacher, which makes sense because women in this role could be abused more by unbelievers.
Very clear teaching of a hard to clearly understand doctrine, thank you so much. I'll watch this again to get all the points down pat and share with others. Even though I attend a Church of Christ that follows this exactly, it was never that clearly explained.
Women and their pride. Cover your head if you want to hear God. It is truth. To be rebellious is gonna allow demons...fallen angels...to seek a way in to your souls. You want to risk this because of your pride? Let's remember that we were put on earth as man's companions...plain and simple. God,Jesus,Man, then women. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 11 and get that education fellow Christian ladies! Praying for us all.
Monica H. ATX Study your Scriptures a little deeper. All true believers, men & women are to cover their heads in submission and respect to our Creator.
Lori Hehn Good for you! If people would Study the Scriptures for themselves there wouldn't even be such a conversation. Men AND women are to cover their heads. Our Savior even in death had a head covering, A CROWN OF THORNS!
J. Moad - Hello there. Hope youre are well and blessed,you and yours. Holy God ,in the New Testament, through the Apostle Paul wrote in specificity and exactitude that : it is a sin and dishonors Christ for a man to pray with his head covered. No where is a man instructed *to cover his head in the New Testament. It is specifically addressed and we are instructed that men are *NOT to pray with their head covered. What are your thoughts and understanding in the light of Scripture? i certainly dont mean anything as to be contentious to you personally of course. All God's Very Best for you and yours!
Lori Hehn Paul is giving this as an example to further his argument to cover with a cloth. If you read in the original Greek language you see Paul is talking about a physical Covering
Thank you so much for teaching God’s Word in such a broad and inclusive way. It’s always fascinating to learn from you. Your decades of learning and teaching are so appreciated. Pastors altogether too often fail in this regard, whether it’s short of schooling and/or perpetual learning, or they don’t want to step on toes for fear of insulting the ones who need the messages so badly but do not want to learn because of cultural reasons that westerners make so many exceptions for. They don’t want to hear God’s Word because God doesn’t fit in their life choices. God is an inconvenience to their enjoyment of living. But I’m so blessed to have found your teachings, Dr. B. I hunger for all the details of histories and all the ‘little’ things (they’re not little at all!), for those unending landscapes in the Bible. I really enjoy the explanations of who, when, where, why, how and so much more! I pray for you and Bonnie, Dr. B, I pray for your ministry and the people who benefit, those who love hearing all the details that the western world simply throws aside; many may ask, but they don’t want only a quick one or two word answer which tells them nothing. People in countries where your ministry takes you appreciate every second of every minute, every word, and they want so much more. I’ve heard you say that they don’t even want a coffee break - that’s how much more important learning about God’s Word is to them. You and Bonnie are in my prayers every day. Thank you so, so much for all your time and all you do. God bless you and your ministry ~~~~~
I accepted Lord as my savior long time back but now as i am maturing spiritualy i ve realized one thing. Believing in God is one thing (beginning) but understanding God is another.....we believe we accept become born again but do we understand what God is?? GOD is LOVE.
Read the book - the fire that consumes and learn that hell fire means annihilation and not eternal suffering ...also do you keep the 7th day Sabbath as mentioned in Ex. 20: 8-11- for Sunday worship was designed by the RCC...
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this lesson!! I am so glad that lady asked!! This has bothered me for decades and your lesson is the best one i've ever heard. 🙏🙏🙏🙏💝💝💝💝
You change your life style to MATCH SCRIPTURE and DO NOT change scripture to match a corrupted life style! also look at Deuteronomy 22:5 > women are Not to be wearing men's clothing
I truly enjoyed this sermon and believe it was the best I have ever heard this taught . Amen. The Kord Yahweh has brought me to modesty and it is so beautiful and blessed . I am a woman of God and respectfully cover my head and body not all my hair, but in doing so as he has called me to do, it reminds me of my headship. Not only of my heavenly Father but of my earthly husband . It humbles and it is good. Oh if more woman in our day would know and learn this.... our Lord, our children, ourselves, and our husband's would be Blessed. The role of a woman is clear throughout all of the Bible, from her home to the body of Christ; the Church. As is it for the man. And as Paul states we have no other way 🤗🙌🙏💞 So pastor my only question to you is if we r to be in continual prayer, how is it we shall not have a covering as reverence to our Lord while doing so? Our husband's are not always with us to be that cover so we do this as respect knowing our authority. 🙌
We need men in the Church who can answer simple questions simply. I.e., men who aren't concerned about what women might think of them for proclaiming the Truth.
When one receives a letter, he/she has to first check to whom it has been addressed. In 1 corinthians 1:1-3, Apostle Paul writes to the church at corinth and to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be saints. This shows that Paul does not only write to the church at corinth but also to those whose lives have been transformed through Jesus Christ. Therefore the book of 1 corinthians was applicable to the church at corinth and still to us who believe in Christ. In 1 corinthians 11: 2, Paul talks about keeping the tradition that he delivered unto us. I strongly believe that head covering using a veil should still be practiced by women since it was practiced by the early Christians until when women wanted to seek attention for themselves that's when they stopped doing it. Women practicing head covering is a sign of submission to their heads and also a sign of Modesty.The same bible tells us not to seek glory for ourselves rather seek to please the Almighty God. If everyone in our culture is doing the samething that doesn't guarantee that they are all right. God's wisdom is foolishness to the world. The world seeks for fame. Don't go for fame but for the truth.
Does a woman not have a right to attend church now? ALL women must cover their heads when in church and around men at all... according to the bible.. The bible says LONG HAIR IS COVERING OF HEAD. How LONG? How old and How long and what do you do with it, have it up or down? So heads covered, and ''NOT wear PANTS ,'' either ( dressing like men) So modern times would make them'' change the clothes' they wear in modern times. They would need to cover heads all the time to show they are subservient to their husbands or men . That would be in all places as the Holy Spirit lives inside of us so WE are the Temple Of The Holy Spirit. WE are the TEMPLE. We in our spirit though are """"not male nor female in Christ""" so we are all 'spiritual beings ' and the' Lord works through all people.' Maybe women should not be educated or work outside homes, like men do? We should stay home and cook in kitchens like they used to do? That was her place, of course. To educate the men/children. Give birth and yet He told Martha, that Mary chose the best way ( by listening to Jesus at His feet, and asking questions and so He liked her asking things and being with Him at His feet, and listening , that was her church) Most men will never lead women, they should evidently be teaching Sunday School and teaching the children, as men are not doing their jobs. To teach morality to the children. They should be the LEADERS of church and home, can they do it? This is what you mean? *We live in a different era though now, and women wear pants. They do cut hair like men often, now many times they dress like men, look like men, and do not wear hats or scarves, , and they were to have''' LONG hair.''' Hats on, and dresses'' all '''the time, staying home as you said and only men in church ( teaching Sunday School too?) . Men going home and teaching his wife and family properly , as she does not know enough? She has God's spirit in her , living in her. So if church is only for men, ( Bride of Christ) Then men would need to do all of the above. Women to do all of the above. Can you see what I mean? Women would just do " Women's work" Men would do "Men's work" if this was the case in this day. We must be careful so we do not get carried away and we become Amish . Nothing wrong with them but we would need horse buggy and living like they do. Women making their own clothes, and no more buying... Women are NOT TO WEAR SO MUCH JEWRY EITHER. GUESS WE MUST CHANGE OUR WAYS , AND NO MORE MODERN SOCIETY AND NO MORE WOMEN WORKING OUTSIDE HOME, TO HELP SUPPORT THE FAMILY. IT IS MEN'S WORK OUTSIDE HOME, STAY IN HOME and do Women's work and submit to the men.. Women are " SAVED THROUGH CHILDBIRTH" Much to think about is it not?
@Matthew Stewart - Why are you at a Christian video and comment board to use that language and filth? Something seriously wrong with that talk here, as this IS for Christians, and we are NOT interested in your filth talk. They are not enough other videos for you to carry on at and leave Christians alone? Jesus said to expect you people and your abusive speech..I'm just in awe that there are so many of you..Jesus is ALWAYS right, it's a shame you don't get to know Him. it'll change your life.
I agree with you. The churches I've called around me with female pastors have now accepted LGBT agendas and are saying it's not sin. 😞 I called to offer Christian counseling and the moment I said I follow the Bible, they immediately became defensive stating they defend Homosexuality and female pastors. All without me saying a word. I believe God was exposing the lies so I would go elsewhere. It was eye opening to say the least. Now I just trust God to bring people to me.
@@carolweaver3269 ..women are not allowed to enter church if they are on their periods, because they are unclean.. women are not allowed to teach/preach.. women in the old days, (time of Moses) were considered as chatels, property.. their place was in the home, rearing children and looking after the men.. women in those days were saved by childbirth, because a woman who did not have children had no-one to look after her in her old age.. the Bible describes childless women as 'barren'.. that which is barren is of no use.. and do you realise that Islam is based on the OT? that is why Muslim women are treated as second class citizens.. Muhammad adopted the religion of Moses, and this is why Muslims are so violent...
@@GARYWERSLEY Yes it was based on a patriarchal society. That was certainly in the Old Testament. When we look at the' New Testament ' we see Jesus treating women in a' much different' way. He even stops to talk to a woman at the well and knows all she had done, but yet was not saying it to judge as much as to make her realize what she had been doing. She was able to repent and went out to let the people know about Jesus. He did the same for the woman caught in adultery and no one could throw rocks to kill her, as of what Jesus wrote in the sand. NONE of them were without sins. They had to leave. Jesus said " Who is there now woman among you, to judge you?' She said " None " He said " neither will I" BUT she was to " Go and Sin No more" She followed Jesus. The woman anointing Jesus with her oils and her hair to dry his feet was also treated as special as the men wanted to condemn her for not having that oil 'sold.' Jesus also stood up for Mary of Bethany when Martha was upset and worrying about so much, with setting table and cooking. Jesus had mary at His feet taking all he said into her heart and He said" Mary has chosen the best" Jesus truly knew the worth of women, and Jesus stood up to SAVE everyone, not just men, of course, but EVERYONE is SAVED through his life He gave for us 'all.' He was then Risen from the dead to show us we all can be forgiven and we can be saved and we will rise again and live on eternally. We will not die forever. We may die of our earthly flesh as nothing on earth can last, but our spirits can live on. That is for both men and women. Many of the women did tell the story of Jesus and even the women were first to see Jesus after He rose from the grave and He had Mary go to the disciples to let them know He was alive. They would not believe her at first as it was not what they thought could happen and because she was a woman, but yet they ran to see and they found she was correct. Jesus wanted her ( a woman) to GO and tell the men that He had risen. They were able to talk about heLord and His work and His ability to save us. they were not told to " shut up" they were allowed to talk to Jesus. We should follow Jesus. We are to do what Jesus wants us to do, as He did too. We follow what Jesus did while on earth We look to the New Testament. I am not saying anything about women wearing hats in church or long dresses or not talking and just shutting up and having children and not doing anything but gossip and just cook and clean, but yet we know that the Lord ha special work for women and He wants them to tell about Him and to speak out about Him. We are to TEACH the young men ( our sons) that is how it works. The boys learn first with their moms about Jesus and then they learn HOW to speak about Jesus.
I liked the bit about how a women is to pray or prophesy with her head covered so as to honor her head, and this verse in Peter is the mans version I believe. 1 Peter 3: 7. Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
@@dishonnasowell7123 Phoebe, was a servant of the Lord, a Sister in Christ, but not an elder/pastor/ i.e. position of authority over men. Rhoda was a maid-servant, joyous about praying and her belief in God. No where in scripture is there a woman given authority over man. In fact it's explicitly the opposite.
@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 yes, they were teachers with children and women, helpers to men who were preachers/deacons, etc., and many other positions in the church, but not preachers. remember, it was eve that was deceived
Awesome explanation, I had watched this about a yr ago, but didn't really hear what you were saying. Am not following the ways and teachings of Jehovah's witnesses, although I did for almost 1 1\2 yrs. I say this because in your explanation, 1 Corinthians 11, and 1 Timothy 2 are exactly how the Church, men and women are. and it's how they teach their students. So much that I learned, saw, and had explained to me, during that short period of time, fully makes sense now after your breaking it down. No, I'm not going back, I just wanted to comment on your video and to say thank you.
I grew Up in a Christian church. And first time ever a lady came to visit as a pastor to preach. And I thought why is there a woman preaching I cannot take her seriously. I mean I did not grew up with strict gender role but just seing her talk was very awkward for me. I never asked why but yeah. This pastor goes into such detail. He takes his time to explain. I am learning more from him than going to church or even from my parents.
I haven't met a woman yet who, when declaring that she saw no problem with male and female roles being reversed, didn't want the role which she regarded as having MORE POWER. All the talk about ''equality'' vanished in a puff! For Feminists, it's ALWAYS about power. ALWAYS!
Personally, I find it threatening to consider the implications of being an aging single woman with short practical hair, choosing to wear a veil and be submissive to all the (questionable) men in the questionable churches I choose to enter. Times are not very ideal, and motives often suspect! I choose to be pure!
You are no doubt a good teacher but you have done a very delayed answer to something simple and straight forward. The answer is No. It is not cultural. A woman must cover her head because the Bible says so. Then you can elaborate kind sir.
Interesting that wedding veils are still a thing- where did that come from? And, for men to to doff their hats in church or for prayer elsewhere is still a thing, too.
Wow- how long and drawn out and confusing and rambling. The scripture is clear- most churches dont do it. Doesnt mean we shouldn't. However, all things are permissable but not all things are beneficial. One doesnt HAVE to wear it, but it's pretty clear what wearing it implies and shows to the angels.
I chose to stay home and raise my kids till they were out of school. I went to work after that but was still the homemaker and cooked most of the meals. My husband chipped in a bit. At 55 I left the workforce and went back to being a homemaker and love it.
Here is what I don't understand. I did that, I stayed home and had EIGHT babies, and tried to live under my husband, who got worse and worse at the years dragged on. GOD made him sick to get his attention it didn't work. Then when I got sick, he left me. So, I have no covering by the LORD's hand, because He told me not to divorce him. We've been separated for five years and there's NO sign of him coming back, because he's drifted so far from GOD, he even has a girlfriend. So, I'm trapped here, at home, raising the bottom four children alone with NO head covering.
Yes, hence the need for women to have a literal physical covering on their head. Just as the covering that men should not put on is a literal physical covering. Great teaching but sadly missed out on the conclusion.
Rosa Colon correct. It’s not cultural also because Angels are not only cultural. They are eternal. We cover because of the Angels, not because of cultural.
I am surprised he didn't make reference to the curse in Gen 3:16 and explain the Hebrew meaning of the word "desire." "Yet your desire shall be for your husband." The word includes the picture of usurping. i.e. a woman will have the desire to usurp the God ordained order of the man being the head of a woman. It is part of the curse of the fall as much as having pain in childbirth. All this has to do with the *office* of each. Man is the president. Woman is the vice-president.
There are two different Hebrew words Paul said, when referring to hair and covering in these verses. One word refers to a woman’s natural hair and the other refers to a veil placed over the head. Look it up. Two different words with two different meanings. Facts are very important when it comes to honoring our Father’s headship. Teaching woman the wrong message about head coverings is in itself dishonorable.
The issue at Corinth was not whether long or short hair was an acceptable covering, but whether or not the head was covered with a veil or hat. This is proven by the following: ----"Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head" (v. 4). The distinction here is obviously not between short and long-haired brethren, but rather between men with covered and uncovered heads. Contentious sisters were provided with an alter native: either cover the head or be shorn or shaven ( v. 6). But if long hair were the intended covering, then the Apostle's alternative is meaningless. "Cover" ( -ed, -ing) in the A.V. disguises the fact that different words for "to cover" are used in the Greek text. The distinction between two of these, "katakalupto" and "peribolaion" proves that a veil or head covering, and not long hair is intended. These words are as follows: "Katakalupto" ( 'kata' = 'fully'; 'kalupto' = 'to cover up'), "to cover fully" ( Yg). This word occurs through out verses 5- 13 and is translated "veil" in the R.S.V.; Nestle and Marshall's "Interlinear Greek-English New Testament'' and many other versions. These translations make it plain that the issue relates to a head covering, not the growth of hair, long or short. "Peribolaion" ('peri' = 'around'; 'ballo' = 'to throw, cast'), "something cast around" ( Y g). The long hair of a woman is her glory - like a mantle cast around ( v. 15) .(8) But this is not to be displayed in the assembly of believers before the presence of God. The intended covering in the ecclesial meeting is the "katakalupto" ---- the head covering or veil. When Paul refers to the long hair given to the woman as her glory, he is drawing a parallel with what "nature" or common-sense suggests. This can be seen from the following: MAN long hair is degrading. WOMAN long hair is her glory. Therefore. a parallel is evident [natural] with the spiritual a man ought not to cover his head a woman ought to cover her head. 4. The mistaken interpretation (9) evident in the question results from reading verse 15 as if it were the conclusion of the argument rather than an additional appeal to common-sense by a parallel: what "nature itself teaches.".
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 why is the best explanation of the truth down here at the bottom and I'm the only one hitting like. Smh. TY for the full expounding of the text.
Amen! 💗 God has ministry for each of us to do... accepting that is submission to His will. Surrender to God means I give up my rights and my life for His authority. And aren’t we always wondering what God’s will is? There is a way to know... honestly pray and obey this Scripture... “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.” Romans 12:1-2
This is a good example of what God warns us about. Scripture says to not move ancient landmarks, rules set out by God to obey. To let women preach is to move that ancient landmark. Got hates disobedience.
Dear John is my favourite teacher! But not totally convinced here. Vs 6 let her be covered. Original text I believe is Veiled. "No flesh should glory in His presence". A woman covers her glory, and shows submission to her husband. Also to God. "Vs 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels". So not only that, she is a testimony before the angels, the good ones, and the wicked principalities and powers, that where they did not keep to God's order, but refused to submit to Him, we as the redeemed show our obedience and submission to God's Order in the church. Imagine the mighty testimony, as we partake of the emblems around the Table of the Lord to remember the mighty sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for our sin in the presence of our enemies!
When my husband and I decided to have a baby , 5 years after we were married , I stopped working and became a full time homemaker. Before our baby was born my husbands dad was furious with me and told me how his son was going to have to pay all the bills. This was in 2002. My husband's dad still doesn't speak to me.
This is how it should be, and yet we have gotten into egotism and wanting more and more and more. ( greed) We do not put our faith in Jesus and people are not as happy, even though they were not so rich in any way, but they did stay with family, and 'try to make things work much more often.' The women then can bring up the children a little easier knowing what they are doing or where they are going etc, and spend more time doing what, as women, they should do. women had to go to work when the men went out to war, that is how it all started that we became a two-person working family. then we needed two cars and two this and that.
I’m sorry to hear that. Christianity was the first religion to honor women and trust them as humans equal to men. From a woman’s right to chose her husband to all races being equal came from Jesus. Every part of God’s creation has its own equally important and honorable job. There is a reason to Gods plan. When we go against it is when we see chaos. Your child is better off because you were brave. God Bless
While it is good to have a pleasant relationship with your inlaws, please remember that you're not under the rule of your father-in-law. You being a homemaker is a decision to be made between you and your husband. Too many marriages are torn apart by inlaw interference!
I desire to be a home maker, but never met a HOLY MAN. Thus I have been single for over 20 years. No man has ever paid for anything I own. Now I am paralyzed and need help and suffer daily ALONE, and I am more blessed, than the poor married women. Especially those being tortured by their husbands.
It sounds like you're harnessing your bitterness and twisting it to make you feel superior to others. Have you considered getting Christian counseling? Your comment sounds nothing like a woman who's found Godly peace. It sounds like you're living in the stage of grief of denial and are doing that so hard that you're screaming at everyone else who's content in their marriage and living their own lives while your head is buried in the sand. I'm sorry for all the difficulties you live with. I hope you survived quarantine. You shouldn't look down on people for not living up to your superhuman standards. There are very few GREAT men, and those men don't do sour attitudes or people without humility and peace. Most men are good and want to be better, and a good woman can propel them to become great. You wanted someone who was great already, which is fine, but you didn't have the humility to walk in the human process with someone and to love them as they were with the commitment to improve one another daily. You came at it all from the wrong angle and are wreaking of bitterness and resentment now. PLEASE, I URGE you to get counseling to help you unravel this web to find emotional healing and peace. You're worthy of love in your imperfection. Please get counseling
Landowar , in 1st Corinthians 11verse 16 Apostle Paul didn't say Head covering is a custom ; he rather wanted to say this : " we have not the custom or the habitude to be contentious like the Corinthian christians , neither the churches of God have not the custom or the habitude to be contentious like Corinthe's church .
This gentlemen, I'm certain is a kind man, however his ability to teach what the bible clearly states for fear of upsetting people about what God says is crazy. Women, this is easy, the Holy Spirit guided Paul to pass on to you to COVER YOUR HEADS when praying or prophecy. The fact that you don't like what GOD has instructed you to do is between you and God. Good luck with him changing his mind because you don't like it. This is a perfect microcosm of people who claim to be Christians picking the bible apart to suite their needs rather than heeding what the Creator has instructed and doing as commanded. Praise God, the king of kings, Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, the most high God, Jesus Christ.
He is trying to explain why. To reason. There is nothing wrong with what he says. Yes he is trying to "keep the peace" but he is also talking truth. Respectfully. With a little tact. . . Don't you agree?
@@nealthomson9505, no I can't agree. He has the interpretation on head coverings wrong, flat out wrong. Women are to cover their heads, and hair is not that cover. All the rest of his sermon was on point and delivered wonderfully. Those women that were dressing inappropriately and causing the deacons to stumble, should be escorted out of the church. Many good things said however a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Amen.
And we wonder why our families are falling apart, that divorce rate in the church mirrors secular society, that our children have inaccurate interpretations of the word thusly leaving the church altogether. My best advice to girls/ women who might read this is to never entertain the idea of dating a man who is not a Christian. It is very difficult to follow Gods plan when the head of your family doesn't even acknowledge his place in Gods order.
Your thoughts on Paul calling Phoebe a deacon and a prostatis. Paul had Phoebe deliver his letter to the Roman church, and introduced her as his emissary. In I Timothy 3:11 it is implied that Timothy also had female deacons in his churches. Paul mentions men and women prophesying in church, which involves speaking in church.
I am wondering why most of these people call him pastor... JESUS CHRIST is my PASTOR and his Holy Spirit teaches me and supposed to teach them who are disciples of Jesus Christ
@@c1peewee -- A Pastor is an earthly shepherd, just as a Teacher is. This Professor also happens to go by Dr. Barnett more than by Pastor. We are to seek teachers on earth and Christ provides us those shepherds like Dr. Barnett. It's ALL 100% Biblical. Don't do one thing and feel you can lecture others on what isn't even Biblical.. that's prideful, and it's sin. The Bible says that God does not "play favorites". IF you wish to actually do what you SAY, then go and actually do so..just don't be sending scolding comments to we who are doing what is totally Biblical as you have NO right.
Thank you. It's really important that we understand that Man was made in the image of God before the women was made from the man. The first man Adam is were sin originated and permeated all man-kind. Sin did not come through women. Now this is important as to miss this is to miss the miracle of the gospel. How so? Because as sin came through the first Adam so righteousness would come through the Last Adam who is Christ. So how does this work through? God humbled Himself and became a man, the man Jesus Christ. Just think for a minute how amazing that is, but then we read that a husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her (the man has to humble himself and die to self). When christian couples live in the order of headship that God has defined in scripture the gospel itself will be seen in action in the relationship between the husband and His wife. Now, when this is redefined and women are allowed to operate in a wrong order and start to be head over a man it's going to undermine more than a marriage.
Oh my. Honest truth, finally to hear a pastor be brave, and truthful regarding gender specific roles, God given order in the church, and the affirming the decision to stand with his wife and die, not in rebellion or because of deception, but because of love, as Jesus being called the Last Adam, proves. Men are commanded to love their wives, as Jesus loved his church, and he gave himself for it. Women as wives, are commanded to obey their husbands in everything, a much easier, or less costly duty, hardly ever, life ending I'm sure. He was not perfect as in ending he (thinking himself doing them a favor), dropped the necessity of silence, in the church. Satan can do so much damage to the church, and home, with the little door he leaves open. God knows why he commands that women be silent, he doesn't need pastors second guessing him, pretty soon they will be writing in the newspaper, how intolerant the church is being, for not giving their blessing to homosexual behavior and marriages, as same sex couples are ordained as priests in some churches, sometimes even being female??? Jesus taught that even if the act was not committed, you can still sin in your heart first. Anyways what an act of submission to God, as the community witnesses, especially the children, when they see all the women, hold their tongues during services. Priceless. Even telling them a second time, his written words were and are the commandments of your God. Well nobody is perfect I guess, but very good not giving that woman her desired answer, and instead telling everybody the truth with love, for I and hopefully many other (not gender specific) members, are not ashamed of the doctrine of Christ, and instead would wish that shamefacedness would accompany a slip of a women's voice in the church, that the scripture alludes to. Thank you so much. =)
Most people forget its just as much about a man taking off his hat as a women to stay covered. It's a very Christian practice for men to be uncircumcised and no hat...... theres relationship in the structure its design and we all know how important design is to all of gods works.
Dr Finny Kuruvilla does a 3 part series on the headcovering. Probably the best I've ever heard. He's on youtube, its also on the facebook head covering movement page
Please understand that I'm definitely not making a statement because there are more women than just the "well-married" kind. What if your husband was an abusive, faithless, adulterous oath-breaking egomaniac? Should that woman still ask of her husband? Because I kind of feel like having a faulty husband-picker shouldn't disqualify a woman from asking things. And what of single or divorced women? Are they just supposed to wait until they're married again or they forfeit asking if they don't marry (remarry)? But more concerningly is the man who can pray with you twice daily while being unfaithful... doesn't that seem like you're lying to God? As you're hurt spouse is suspecting but only praying aloud about God shielding, protecting your marriage because any confrontation would result in ugly confrontation, possibly one to threaten one's physical health and well-being; its the most one might dare. But also, divorce feels like a sin. Jesus even says that God only allowed the bill of dovorcement in Moses day in cases of adultery, calling them a heard-hearted lot in the process. It seems that even arouses of adulterers and adulterers alike are urged/encouraged to reconcile their marriage.
Excellent exegesis, I've been studying these issues for years; your explanation is the best so far. One other point did you know that the word for covering in 1cor 11: 15 is a different Greek word used in the rest of this text...? κατακαλύπτω katakaluptō to cover up:-cover(2), covered(1). Verse 15: περιβόλαιον peribolaion; that which is thrown around, a covering:-covering(1), mantle(1). I'm thinking it's pointing towards the way the hair is worn or styled. Many Thanks.
mercy johnson Interesting. Tamar wore a veil when she played the harlot. Just as Yahweh declares that he detests the Sabbaths of the people, does he hate his children for keeping his command? If so, then he would have had no delight in Yeshua. Yeshua walked in the Torah perfectly. The veil represents his children playing the whore. Just as the Sabbath and appointed times that Yahweh hated were not his appointed times, but THEIRs.
Mark Robins thank you for stating that 2 different Greek words are used to discuss this issue. Those that believe the hair is the covering some how always leave that out.. Ty
Agree, the covering I cover my hair with is "veil" in the Greek. So I veil my glory. It is a testimony to the angels, to the good, and to the fallen who did NOT submit to God's authority when they were cast out of heaven, testifying that the Church is in submission to God, and the women declare this by their head coverings on behalf of the whole church. How beautiful is God's order in the Church. And how hard the enemy tries to deny and discount this wonderful truth of the order of God.
I. Being very adamant about this subject, I often wring my hands at even the evangelist of the church of Christ of which I belong.they never bring up the subject and run when asked about it!! Thank you
Our Brain, our "head" should be covered by YHWH so that our Heart, in which dwells the Holy Spirit (The Helper Jesus GIFTED to us), can direct our every action and reaction in HIS AGAPE LOVE. I LOVE YOU ALL.
God over Jesus, Jesus over man, man over woman, and woman over child. Not one claims absolute domination through torture, wrongdoing, or assault. God does not insult or assault Jesus, Jesus does not do this to man, man should not do this to woman, and woman should not do this to children. Until a woman finds her man she is should remain covered by the only men in her life. Her earthly father, the savior, and God. She should remain virgin until marriage, as well as man should also remain virgin until marriage. This keeps God's command, his headship, and pleases him. She should ask, and he should as well question their father so that he can ask Jesus Christ for guidance which comes from God. It is not until the two are married that the women now takes on a new head. That is why he should ask the earthly father for her hand. The earthly father should take into account, get to know and see that he is good by his earthly father, Jesus, and ultimately God. When he says yes then he, the earthly father, is passing his gracious gift, given by God, which is his daughter over to the soon to be husband. Now once married they consummate that marriage. If the man is to die she is now a widow and must return to Jesus as her head. Just as if the woman passes the man keeps his head as Jesus. This is not ownership, this is not slavery, this is morale bedrock. Its not about man being disobedient and thinking his wife is a lesser being. Or that woman should be abused by her man because it's his right, because it's not. It is simply that when you are married you start a new chapter under God. That is how I take it and how it was always explained to me. I love my wife. I would never harm her, or scold her for doing something wrong in my eyes. I just simply love her and help guide her back to Jesus through me, and God through Jesus. She should treat me the same because woman was created to help keep man level with God. We are equal under Jesus and God. Jesus who is Immanuel or "God with us" God in the flesh. His only earthly form. And God our father in heaven who is outside of time and limitless. We should cherish each other because that is our great grace from God that we can occupy this world, and our home together and have further blessings of children. The child asks mommy, if mommy says no and child throws a fit, then Daddy steps in and nobody defies daddy because daddy only answers to Jesus who is God. Simple, straight forward. Discipline does not have to be abusive, but should be compassion driven. One is to compliment the other as equals. Covering is simply obeying God's command. Being wholesome and not just giving yourself away to anyone, but the right one. Discipline through love. Keep his temple Holy. King Solomon was a fine example of this in Song of Solomon, and his wife was a fine example of following God's command until they were wed. "I have found the One whom my soul Loves"- Song of Solomon 3:4 Only once we are properly given to one another do the souls receive and become one. We should never demean this gift from God of each other. I am willing to die to protect her, and she is willing to die for our children. But we can't do it without the strength given by God. In way a wife has no greater power than when they are supported wholly by the Husband, who passes his power from Jesus, who has passed his power from God. In this way woman remain strong, and the Children through her.
More men must stop divorces and separations, and stay and be good husbands, that can LEAD the family spiritually, and step up to the plate, so the women would not need to lead so often. We need men to be men and do what the Lord wants them to do. We have too many who stay home and do not support the wife with the children, Some just leave and the wife is alone teaching and doing it all. This is the duty of both . the woman and the man have responsibilities in this whole thing as we are both and all of the family is filled with the Holy Spirit once we are "saved" I think we are very weak in this area. Women become leaders when they do not have men who will lead. The Bible does ask women to cover their heads in church, in 1 Corinthians Ch 11 and to only ask the husband at home ( if they are able) and if they do not understand, what is said, but most in this day, understand it all well, but they can discuss it at home and with the children. s I feel they need a Worship corner to take time to go and Read bible together as family someplace in the home and have the bible there and children/ bible and talk with them where it is set and you will have their attention ( that is just my idea, did not read that in the bible) It begins the habit to pray together and study together and take a little time alone with Jesus so the children can learn to do this and husband and wife can do this together if they do not have children. The church should not be just on Sunday, We are the "Temple of the Holy Spirit" It would be wonderful if the wife could stay home to raise the children and the husband work outside and they may have less money but more spiritual life and the mom can be sure the children are getting the best care if possible and have time to do well with the home. Just a thought, as thinking this was in mind in the old times? Materialism is over crazy now, just because it can be that way. Al because women went out to work when the men had to go into the service during WW1 and WW2, and then they took over factory work, and other work, when the men left and that began all this stuff as women saw how great it was to earn money! It started feeling of power, I guess?
Ignorance is not necessarily bliss. Just a point of order here. Jesus said "The Father and I are One." Jesus is God. I know what you've been taught, but it's blasphemy. Now, when the time comes, you cannot say that you weren't told.
@@carolweaver3269 :-) Carol, I can always tell the men and women who know their left hand from their right hand, - by whether the women where a head covering, and the men understand divine order and don't tolerate the spirit of Jezebel. There aren't many Spiritual Christians around at all, who are able to restore someone who is taken in a fault, because the vast majority are themselves in an androgynous comfort zone. It's basically to do with wholeness in Christ isn't it ? :-)
@@matriarchyh8r A true Christian is all you think they are, not. Some people may be religious and some may be Christians. Ther is quite a difference. But this world has turned often to loosen their lives to become like Sodom and Gomorrah, and that is not anything to do with what our Lord would want. People are made to 'choose for themselves whom they will follow, Satan or God'. No one can force them. But because we are not teaching about God any longer in schools, and in homes, they often do not even have Prayer corners for families to pray together and take that time to do it, we have grown farther from where it needs to be now. Always have we had those who may say they are Christians, but are not, and people judge all, by the few.? We have many who say they follow this person or that person, but they really do not. They follow themselves, and their own lust. So it is an individual matter. We cannot say who is more Christian than another unless we see them living wrongly. But we do not judge and we leave it to God so that alone makes us let people do what they want and with that, we have seen many people choose the easy, but wrong way of nothing but their passions. If you are a Christian you follow Jesus Christ, but if you fake it God knows. If not, it will show in your conduct. But no one is ever perfect. we k ow people by their "fruits" and so it is more their conduct, and their conscious which t that point will want to live modestly and dress modestly and do all in that manner, and what they show in their lives, is more important than anything else.
So cool I fnd this video, God has taught me through the Holy Spirit all these truth since I became a Christian 10 yrs ago, but I was never able to explain it to others but this vid def help me articulate it. Also b/c of my submission to my husband’s authority i’ve NEVER had an unanswered prayer wen my requests line up w/ God. Lastly, it’s not an easy thing to do but God’s reward is always worth it. Thank you Jesus
Great SHEAPERD and outstanding Sermon. Another great sermon on this very thing from Dr. Brooks teacher early in his work is Pastor John Macarthur from Grace to you. Please watch this outstanding Sermon from both of these Godly men.
Every word of God is a parable, until the Holy Spirit reveals the meaning of the Scripture to you , you will interpret it as you read it. May God HELP us.
+Jenny J -- NO, every word of God is *not* a Parable. Before you (or anyone) starts reading the Scriptures, you pray for the Holy spirit to lead you to all truth. Especially if you are saved, He will do this. *Jesus spoke in SOME Parables sometimes* throughout the Gospels, so that those among the people in the crowds following him were *sincere*, they would understand the Parables. Those who were NOT sincere about following Him and obeying Him and all He said, could NOT understand the Parables. It's how He separated the "sheep from the goats" so to speak back in those days. It is not difficult to correctly exegese (interpret) the Scriptures if you DO have the Holy Spirit leading you and IF you really *study* using the surrounding verses. Correct exegeses *cannot* be done with only one verse. It *always* takes using the several verses before and after the verse you are trying to understand. So NO need for "May God help us"...Though His Holy Spirit WILL help us to understand the Scriptures if we pray before reading the Scriptures for His help and guidance.
+Jenny J --Jesus spoke in SOME Parables, but God's every word are NOT Parables. The Holy Spirit is VERY clear regardless of who He is speaking to, and again, not in Parables *except* where Jesus makes it clear in the four Gospels that He is speaking in a Parable. The Bible is breathed by the Spirit of God...It's the Holy Spirit also who leads us to all truth when we read God's word..we should always pray beforehand for Him to lead us to all truth and to write the word's knowledge on our hearts. To the unbeliever, the Bible is no more than another book, they don't understand it..but it's not a Parable.
Thank you for the fastidious explanation. I've listened to various protestant explanations (my first being Ray Steadman) and truly tried to follow the biblical logic. My upbringing (eastern orthodox) was just the plain understanding....you covered your head in church. But...then everyone prays outside of church and so do you cover your head then, too??? (I''ve always questioned Eastern Orthodoxy since childhood, so this is not a firm belief). Still don't make the connection as to what Apostle Paul said about women and head covering... However, when you spoke about the Masculinity, Femininity (yes it is a word), and Androgenicity (I believe you wrote Androgeny and I'm wondering if what I wrote is a word, too) the light bulb lit up! Supermoms...have a career, be a homemaker, raise children, be a wife, and renovate a foreclosed house (in my case).... I nearly died, literally. I lost an in utero child, I hated my husband for the load I was carrying, and God did not bless our union. 25 years later, my daughter won't listen to my advice...but God's plan is easier to follow than the plan of the world. The farmer is the exemplary microcosm of modern and ancient times. To live, its easier to have a mate to divide the chores. To have children, its easier to eventually divided the chores. The children become legacy and they eventually become your sustenance. With God all things are possible...because God already foresaw our needs. God already foresaw our gender characters. He made them.
You can tell the pastor is very uncomfortable with this question. The feminists have already crucified him in their minds. The head coverings and angels could refer to genesis when the angels left their abode and mated with human women. Covering the heads of women could reference not tempting the angels. I think Islam teaches this as well.
What I heard is that Timothy's congregation were not told to wear a head covering. Just not to wear jewels in their hair, (or more correctly, braids). And to dress modestly with a clean motive. Worship God, not appearance. Allow God to direct our service, our lives, and our relationships.
At 0:58 - What do you mean, "Not that I want to do the Head Covering "thing"? If the Bible tells Women to cover their Head, while praying or prophesying, then you cover your Head, while praying or prophesying!
THIS HEAD COVERING THING FOR WOMEN MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME. AND I DON'T THINK IT EVER WILL UNTIL JESUS HIMSELF EXPLAINS IT TO ME. I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLICATED, WOW.
If you would have listened to this untill the end then you would see how it makes perfect sense .I 'ma woman who never could understand this until I just watched this man make it sense ,great teaching on this topic
Yup, this has more to do with Corinth and Lesbos. I don’t question the authority of God or the position of a Christian husband as leader, but I don’t get the head covering or the problem with short hair. Not very relevant today?
It's to do with divine order; - The fall ; and Redemption through Christ, as we work out our salvation, which requires some structure and order for things to work properly. Things must be seen to be in order, especially as we are coming out of ignorance and dealing with sin, and these issues can be quite deep. We need structure to help guide us while deep aspects of life are a bit over our heads. The glory scriptures go with the head scriptures. Whether we are a man or woman we are the glory of the one who is our head (point of reference). Women are what they are in relation to man. Men are what they are, in relation to Christ. Man is the image and glory OF God. Woman is the glory OF man. She is not her own, she is his glory. And the man is not his own, he is God's, image, and glory. Adam was with God before Eve was taken out of him and made for him , and God was bringing the animals to Adam to see what he would name them. So Adam had pre-eminence, but Eve was made glorious and with procreative power which gave her equivalency to Adams pre-eminence. Also, because we have an adversary that has been pumping out subtle lies that displace many important contributory truths, we end up blind sided about the basic distinctions, so now, most "people" don't know what masculinity and femininity are anymore. We , especially in the west have become robbed of the Truth. The only thing I can say is you are not alone, and it is a journey of deliverance and discovery to come back to Truth. Then the scriptures mean what they say, and they are wonderful, not onerous. I had to go outside the Church to find truth that was there in the scriptures all along. The problem was, that I was under the common mind-set, and so were all the Christians I was mixing with, so I couldn't understand the scriptures. The god of this world blinds the minds of people with many subtle lies that link together. Start weeding them out, one at a time. You'll come out eventually, then you'll find that Paul's teachings mean what they say, but then you'll be out on a limb, but at least you'll have your balls in the right place. You'll be a whole man. That will mean leadership and humility, but that's what we are here for.
This scripture is deeper than we think. To summarise all this. It's all spiritually covering Christ is talking about I pray Father opened your heart to understand this. As (humans) we all are married to Christ means - sealed together with him through his Spirit. -The man hear is Jesus Christ and his covering is God. he came to do the will of God - likewise we flesh (mortal man) our covering is Jesus, we also must do the will of God through Jesus Christ. - the flesh can not give birth to the spirit, the Holy Spirit was send for man kind and He the Spirit of Truth need a body to work with and there wouldn't be a body without the Holy Spirit. Our real self is the Spirit wetin us. Read john 15:4 -6 and matched it to this verse. - the covering is a sealed of ownership. The bible says we are not our own that we have been bought by a price which is the Blood of Jesus Christ We all are answerable to Him alone. If you are praying without Jesus Christ who is your covering, you are wasting your time. When Jesus was on this earth everything He did was to pleased God which is His covering. Everything about the word of God is Spiritual and is only between Him and you. I pray God take away the veil that covers the heart of understanding. Please any questions write to me, thanks and God bless you.
Actually, it's all a lot simpler than you think. That's the problem. Making issues out of non-issues and out of whole cloth. Get a red letter version of the NT. Read it. Everything that applies to YOU, as a Christian, is there. Don't worry about anything else.
I guess my confusion is if it just means long hair for women, why would there be an emphasis to cover ones head when praying or prophesying? I imagine if you have long hair it would be automatic. On the other hand if it's a piece of clothing, then do I need to wear a cloth on my head if I pray in the shower (I do this often)?
I think women should have long hair as a sign of feminity and should cover it as a sign of humility. But don't worry, it's perfectly okay to pray with your head uncovered in the shower x) see, you're alone, it's just you and God, who sees your heart anyway. Meanwhile in Church it's a way of showing you're hiding your beauty, your glory, so that the focus is on His beauty and His glory, and it's a way of showing you accept to be submitted to your husband in a godly, biblical, holy manner. So it's like a statement. You don't need to make the statement in the shower :P
Thank You so much for not giving in to the culture, but speaking the word of God and the order of things. And we all need to humble ourselves before the Lord.
Amen. I now have a better understanding of this topic. I feel like I can now make improvements upon myself as I continue to read, study, and meditate on the Word. God bless you brother John. Your lessons are helping me to better understand the Word.
At one point I was the breadwinner while my husband was the home maker. I asked God to switch our places because I hated working and my husband wanted to work. God answered my prayers and now I'm a homemaker and love taking care of my children while my husband goes off to work. I now have a better relationship with my husband and our marriage has significantly improved ever since God has answered my prayers. Most importantly, i have veen so much closer to God than I ever have been. God is good all the time.
My wife has made a church and is the pastor there. Her pride is full and her teachings are for her glory than Gods and His Sons glory. Please pray for our family
For starters it says in the Bible! Woman are not to be head of a church. So she shouldn’t be a pastor. You being the head of the wife should tell her this.
I’ll pray for you to be full of wisdom to do this. 🙏
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Today I was kicked out of a Bible study for sharing that I believe women should not be Pastors according to the book of Timothy. Please pray the truth is revealed, and pray captives are set free. Thank you.
a woman can be a pastor but should not be ordained
@@DavidKing-qd3sp that is not biblically accurate at all.
DTBM teaching on head coverings and women Pastors is one of the best I have ever heard being a born again Christian 45+ years. Some things he taught I did not know...WOW. What he said makes perfect sense
It's really a very poor study but then again he isn't teaching from the true word of God. I gave the link to alphaphotography above.
Pastor Gino Jennings
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Because a lot of good women are offended by this teaching , I think this gentleman done a superb job because he handled the word of God with sincereness , love , and a desire not to offend anyone . If a person is offended by the word of God , it's because of one of two reasons . It's the attitude of the teacher doing the teaching or the person being taught , absolutely is not willing to follow the instructions of God . For either reason , the person will not hear you . If they hear you , they may not agree right at the time , but they will at least consider what's been taught . I thought this gentleman done a superb job at delivering his message !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I already believed what was the end result of his message , but I will have to confess , I did not completely understand the scripture . Whether or not , I understand the scriptures being taught , I totally agree with this passage of scripture . Romans 3 : 3-4 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect ? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged . ----------------------------------------------------------------------Ernest E. Johnson
Women wore head coverings in church in every culture and church until after World War II. I think doing away with the head covering has more to do with the influence of a weaker view of biblical authority in the West since many churches in Asia and Africa continue to wear a hat or head covering.
Head-coverings were prescribed for male priests under the Law. Which is why Judaism still prescribes the yarmulke today.
If I Cor 11 means a man wearing a cloth on his head while praying dishonors Christ, why didn't Jesus himself address the subject? Why wasn't it a bigger issue in the early church? Why did the church of Acts continue to keep the law and to worship in the Temple?
@Ana Maria Actually... it's not an excuse. Remember, when we point fingers, there are several more pointing back at ourselves.
We could actually have a conversation about the Biblical basis for NOT believing like the Mennonites teach... or we can retreat into our corners and pitch accusations back and forth.
polly jetix I agree. There is too much legalism in this subject. As Christians I agree we should be encouraging in this subject and not divided on small matters such as these. I'll wear a hat if I have to, but so far I haven't found anything that states that unmarried women need to wear one.
Thank you for explaining this in a way that was thorough and well studied. Thankful in this age that there are scholars who care still about the truth of scripture and it's meaning, and with a kind spirit share that with the followers of Christ.
He destroyed the head covering by using history. But 1 Corinthians 11 say the head covering should be practice today and you agreed with that fault teaching
What true words you have spoken. I shed tears when I think of all the babies shipped off to daycare at 3 months or younger. And yes mothers are not teaching the gospel to their children, unless you mean the new age gospel.
What about single moms working to keep a roof over those kids' heads?? My kids' dad died before they were grown..and before that I took care of him when he had cancer too..he did not die of cancer...sure I put work before God..not proud of that..BUT Judge NOT lest yea be judged!! I do regret not doing more spiritually..but I struggled..I DID try to get them to go to church when they were teens..but they fought me on it..so I turned to Christ in prayer since then!..I was shocked recently when my older kid was having a frustrating time..and they finally got help and I heard her say "Thank God".. she's been an Atheist..so I believe she's starting to see His Love!!.. God's time is not my time.. forcing my kid to believe makes it artificial..she has to CHOOSE to believe to make work for God/Jesus..the best I can do is live my life as best I can in Christ as an example!!
God words is enternal and he always has a reason for every word he has spoken. God has an order for his sacred doings
A lot of churches wouldn't exist because men have fallen away from the church. What about people who are already living at the lowest financial point possible? Some men, believe it or not, are fine with their wives supporting them, so they don't have to work.
@@arqeph.private Lovely!! now let me send this to my wife, with Love of course 😁
And that order isn't gendered.
Women have the wonderful privilege of showing all who make up a fellowship of believers what their attitude should be toward Christ - men have the most serious "picture " to act because they represent the Lord himself - therefore we are for a short time showing two different roles to understand the great love Christ has for his church and her glad submission to His loving care. No need for this beautiful picture when we are with Him forever!!
I remember in the 50's and 60's going to church where women covered their heads, the sense of humility and respect for God was incredible. I don't see this anymore. Mr. Barnett missed the mark on head coverings. God's Word is not based on culture.
Angels are the messenger slaves that acted as postal/social media/messengers in the city who would spread false reports about the church if they saw unseemly behaviour.
He's wrong about dispensationalism, it's false, but on this subject he's right jr.
yes you said it.. not based on culture.
So because you cover your head, you automatically respect God?
@@andrewplater1782 Just out of curiosity, how can the slaves spread false reports if the reports are of unseemly behaviour? Would it not be just reporting the behaviour? And if the behaviour was unseemly, why would they need to spread a false report? Am I missing something?
All I wanted to ever be was … a child of God, a good wife and a life with God bearing children ! It’s been a journey .. LOTS of ups and downs !! But.. we just celebrated our 35th wedding anniversary, our 25 th year in business and our sons 23 rd birthday!! Praise Jesus !!!
All I wanted was a FAMILY !!
Did you know … that’s what Jesus wants from us too .. A FAMILY IN CHRIST !!! Amen
Part of God's is-Paul teaching women to pray in church. 1 Corinthians 11:4-5 states that all women should cover their heads while praying or prophesying.
*Prophets*
This one is very important for a reason that I will bring up later.
1 Corinthians 14:29-32
“Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.”
2 Things here:
“Two or three prophets should speak” - 1 Cor 14:29
“And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop - σιγάτω (sigatō) - .” - 1 Cor 14:30
The word here also is the same as the others - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Today’s Application
The point here is also, there are very strict instructions for Prophets to dicern what other Prophets are saying - I’ve not seen very many “Prophets” interpreting one another. But the bigger point here is that if Prophets and those speaking in tongues have this type of restriction - how much more of a restriction to everyday men have? No one is to be disruptive.
Women
1 Corinthians 14:34
34Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) -, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) - in the church.
Today’s Application
Now, when looking at each of these cases before, people speak in tongues all the time and over each other, if someone is an actual prophet, I’ve not seen other prophets to interpret that word right there - and the number limitations for each of these are strict. Are these followed? No, and we all know they aren’t. Even within this particular verse - are women actually forbidden from speaking in Churches? Wouldn’t it be disgraceful for us to allow that any where? But how many churches do you know that actually don’t allow women to speak at all as this verse says?
So here we get to the meat of this particular issue, and I am going to bring several, Biblical and grammatical points to this verse.
The assumptions that people gather, from this:
This is referring to all women
Women are to never ever speak in Church
And that is disgraceful for a women to speak at all in church.
Let’s look at the greek for this:
It doesn’t actually ready “women” It reads, The women. The definitive article might seem contrite, but it’s really not when we are looking at the true meanings of a sentence and its structure. This is important because we have to look at the next part of this. “They should ask their own husbands; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the Church.” Why would there need to be a distinction between The women and also their own? That is a bit odd, if this is blanked statement about all women and them not speaking in Church.
It is clear that these particular women are asking questions to people OTHER than their own husbands, that this is about women speaking out of turn and being disruptive and asking any one anything. You may think this is a stretch, but if a woman doesn’t have a husband, then why would Paul need to make this particular distinction, not just to ask their husbands, but to ask their own husbands.
The word for woman in greek is γυναῖκες gynaikes - This is also used for wife when it’s speaking in relation to giving husbands an instruction. (Colossians 3:18, Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1). So this is clearly talking about the wives, whom Paul had gotten report about, that were spouting off and asking other peoples husbands, and not paying attention in Church.
The further reasoning for this goes to the next point which is contradictory to the command for silence - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Women are never to speak in Church
Paul didn’t just say that, but He said that it was disgraceful! Well - when looking at the instructions for wearing veils - Paul not only says that it’s ok for women to speak, but he would be including them in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 of being able to stand with the men and prophecy.
1 Corinthians 11:2 - 5
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, a and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is the same as having her head shaved.
Now here is something so interesting - Paul is giving women instructions for wearing a head covering - while praying and prophesying!
Women speaking in the Church and Paul Approves
Is he then giving these women also the instruction to not speak and that it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak in Church? It can’t be. Because he is directly addressing their authority to be able to pray and prophesy in the Church. So thus this first instruction is to be looked at not in terms of ALL women - but a particular set of them, who were being rowdy, and asking men other than their husbands questions.
Going back to 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:27 - these are instructions not just for men, but ALSO for women. Thus everyone was under the exact same rules for being silent in Church if you weren’t speaking in tongues with and interpreter, prophesying, or doing another approved practice.
But again, isn’t it odd, that Paul would have to tell men to NOT cover their heads? This is because of the practices of the day when they would sacrifice to their pagan gods - that men would also cover their heads.
Further more - when we look at the rest of the discussion about women wearing veils - the discussion of long hair comes up.
1 Corinthians 11:14
14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
Here we have another rule for men that we don’t strictly enforce today with men having long hair.
But regardless, there are very few churches that make women wear a veil in church, I do not know of one personally.
So Now let’s head on over to the big boy 1 Timothy 2:12 - “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
When looking at this all of the above is needed for the proper context into what this means, and the getting used to the idea of deeply looking at what the greek means, what Paul means, and the role of women in the Church.
I rarely hear, if ever, someone dig very deeply into this with the furor that is used for other issues, and this is why I totally understand your take on things.
So we have established in 1 Corinthians several things:
Paul seemingly said that women are to remain silent and that it’s disgraceful for them to speak
The use of the same greek word for silence used in relationships to Prophets and those speaking in tongues
The conclusions after digging into these are such:
The context of all of this is pertaining to having order in the Church and making it so that outsiders could come in and get saved
Paul clearly affirms women who pray and prophecy - as he speaks of the proper head coverings for them in relation to praying and prophesying
Thus Paul is couldn’t be referring to all women when he was speaking of instructions for them - as there would be a clear contradiction here
The rules were for men and women who were not in any authorized way participating in the learning and sharing of Christ and His Teachings (They weren’t teaching from the NT because it hadn’t been written yet)
Everyone was required to keep silent in Church
It also says her hair is given to her for a covering for power on her head because of the angels.not a rag.
@@user-wn8mc1yc1g interesting
I love watching this gentleman, I am able to actually study my bible along with learning from a very knowledgeable person. These videos, Carter Conlon and Paul Washer are such amazing teachers.
do you keep the 7th day Sabbath as Ex. 20. 8-11 stipulates or Sunday the 1st day of the week that the RCC stipulates
David, unless you're Jewish - you were never asked to keep Friday 6pm Sabbath beginning. It's in the OT instructions to Israel. Christianity was given New Testament commitments
With regards to hats it says a man should not cover his head. If it was about authority as described in this video, that would be saying man should not be covered by Jesus. Likewise in the passage "a woman should cover her head" is not about a man's authority should cover her as the video says but the passage is exactly what is says, meaning covering the head on her body.
The passage says if a woman doesn't cover her head she might as well have her hair cut off. Notice it doesn't say she might as well be divorced or single. It's talking about her literal head that needs to be covered, while a man literally should not cover his head.
As for everything else that was very good.
Men don't cover your head in church. Women cover your head in church when praying and prophesying.
God bless you brothers and sisters. Peace be with you all 🙏🙏
@@thomassmithson5795 This is the reason why I just read the scriptures and I allow the HOLY SPIRIT to put the truth in my heart ( we should rest not do works) let him The HOLY SPIRIT work for us he will guide us to the answers, sometimes we get in the flesh and try to figure out the scriptures on our own ( using our own knowledge instead of his. I thank the HOLY SPIRIT for giving you this revelation to explain you made good points blessings.
@@Desman228 Thanks Brother. God bless you.
OF COURSE :-) There is so much fear of Jezebel around.
No we are not under law any more...
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It's not a law that we must fulfill to be righteous.
It's an ordinance that we perform because we are righteous, in Christ.
It's proper conduct, prescribed for Christians under the new covenant, - that are designed to keep us, and guide us.
If we start setting aside things that we are told to observe, what are the consequences, and where will it end.
Sin is transgression of law isn't it?
Is the commandment to love God and love our fellow man as ourselves, law also, that we're not under ?
Love the ending so true. God bless women that stay at home. A true Godly family will lead the way in strenth love, prosperity and in finances. In the fifties women stayed at home and everyone that followed Christ prospered. And were happy and healthy, and it didn't take 2 wages to buy a house.
We have this thing called inflation....50 years ago a carpenter would support his household and relatives and yet today I can tell you they his household alone can be a pain in his pockets... there's no scripture denying women from working to support her family, in fact laziness is discouraged
God does answer prayers!
I have waited for this one a long time, thank you so much for answering questions Dr. John Barnett for doing the work of our Lord.
Blessings to you and Bonnie and Co..
Shalom from Denmark
When a man uncovers his head to pray or prophecy, he publicly declares his submission to God,
When a woman covers her head to pray or prophecy, she publicly declares her submission to God, by declaring her submission to her husband.
Amen. 1 Corinthians Ch 11.. It is true, we must read the bible and take it for FACE VALUE. Sometimes we pick and choose. We think times change and people must change their ways to fit the changes, and yet then we say " God never changes and never changes His mind" We cannot have it both ways. What the bible says, it says. We must follow it the best we can. We just cannot make up things as we go to fit our "world view" I agree Frank. You read the scripture and took it for "face value" women in pants was not as expected either for women . Women do not dress as men nor women as men, and we must try to dress 'humbly'. We follow the bible.
The unsubmissive culture of the Women's Lib Movement has infiltrated the church. If men love their wives as Christ loved the church, to the point where he gave himself for it, and women submit to their husbands, there will NEVER be a problem (Eph.5). Both must honor their roles.
What if she has no husband? Do you guys just pull this stuff out of a posterior orifice? BTW, Jesus said that he was the fulfillment of all prophecy and the last prophet. Men who claim to prophesie today are charlatans, without exception. And, because of what Jesus said, Revelation CANNOT be a prophesy. Sorry. I know your whole belief system is centered around Revelation and Paul. Me? I'm sticking with Jesus.
@@efandmk3382 You're sticking with Jesus? Jesus is the one who gave the revelation to Paul FOR THE GENTILES. Okay? (Gal. 1: 1 to 12, Acts 22:6 to 21). Try reading the Word before making comments.
@@efandmk3382 Now you're doing exactly what was addressed in 1 For 3. Also, please understand how the word prophecy/prophesy should be defined. Yes, there an aspect, which you allude to, of foretelling. But equally if not much more often, the word simply means to *declare* or to *expound.* So on Sunday mornings, a preacher expounding scripture is prophesying. But you are right in concluding that there is no new revelation in terms of equal to scriptural authority. New revelation today comes in the form of understanding the truth given in the 66 books of the bible.
Amazing amount of respectful replies for an issue that is easily settled Biblically but hotly disputed socially! Thanks for showing that Gods Word will stand up for itself when applied with understanding and that sometimes we must go deep and search out these truths to explain why this is as important now as when it was written. I also love what you said about the role of women in the home as a mother as a home maker. There is simply no more influence that a lady of God can have in society than to be a loving, kind, nurturing, teacher and mother and run her home in a business like manner. You want real respect, let that home shine from a productive and wise lady’s rule. The proverbs 31 woman sets such an awesome an example. Finally, children well behaved, thoroughly instructed in all discipline are absolutely a crown to husband and wife...Women who have cast off motherhood as a burden and as a reason to resort to abortion as a means of birth control and as a convenience for their lack of planning bring judgment not only on themselves but on this nation. there is no more power that a lady can wield Than she can as the matriarch of a fine godly home Where children and grandchildren are arrows... blessed be the mother whose quiver is full.
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world ladies.
God bless
Thank you, John, for such clear and wonderful teachings It is a gift from God. You have a wonderful and humble spirit. Blessings David
A quick search in church history shows that the church interpreted it to be a physical covering
“This is only 150 years after the Apostle Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. Tertullian said, "So, too, did the Corinthians themselves understand [Paul]. In fact, at this day the Corinthians do veil their virgins. What the apostles taught, their disciples approve.””
This is the best explanation of this topic I have heard. Thank you sir.
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This is a good lecture. But the part I didnt hear him say was tje woman headcovering / scarf was part of their tradition because they felt that the womens long beautiful hair is what attracted and tempted the angels as they looked down from above and also that long hair was somehow linked to a woman fertility and the way pregnancy happened and this is also part of the reason they believed the head covering was neccessary
I agree this could have been explored more, but he did touch on Eve being deceived in the Garden (which relates)
Any scriptures for that? Interesting.
HiDollaHoney - strange handle for a Christian woman! Prostitute or lover of the things of the world? But I digress, just wanted to point out your comment isn't sourced from scripture, BUT from world view interpretation of "sons of God & nephilim". Simply man's imagination, not God's word. Just read the word, not between the lines.
Hair is her glory not gods glory.
@@LampWaters Her hair was deemed her glory by GOD, Who gave her hair as a covering.
Studying this in culture, women only stopped covering their heads in the 20's. So why would it be church doctrine throughout all ages if we are not suppose to take it literally?
Consider though, that all of Protestant doctrine is derived through either Catholic doctrine, or by reaction against it.
And we know the Catholic church destroyed and revised history to make themselves look correct.
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If we go back to the early church, we know the first century original church continued to keep the Law of Moses, and to worship in the Temple.
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Now, the Law of Moses prescribed head-coverings for male priests. But the Law prescribed no head-coverings for females, anywhere! There are cultural references to it, but it was never part of God's prescribed law!
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If this was a huge change from the Old Testament to the New, then why wasn't it addressed as such, by Christ, and by the Apostles in the book of Acts?
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After all, the headcovering teaching says if a man prays or prophesies with his head covered with a cloth, then he actually dishonors Christ!
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Logic says if that is the case, then Christ himself would have addressed the subject strongly.
Paul also said it was “because of the angels”. If it was cultural at all, why did he mention angels? Angels are not a culture or a custom.
@@ashdeez6552 Look at the Greek word that was translated 'angels'.
It doesn't always mean angelic beings.
Instead, it literally means, "messengers."
And often, this Greek word is used to mean human messengers.
In 1 Cor 11, there's no need for it to mean angelic messengers.
Instead, if we let it mean what it means naturally - simply, messengers - that fits perfectly with the cultural view!
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After all, if a messenger is sent from one church to another, how is he to know who is a recognized Christian in the local body? Especially if some are dressing like idol temple prostitutes!?
@@pollyjetix2027 your interpretations goes beyond the Scripture and right into your own understandings .. of how you want it to be.. i trust you hate order and submission to the Word of GOD
Headcovering is for prayer and prophesying...not listening a sermon....
If a husband is the wife’s spiritual head, then he becomes the mediator between her and Christ, just as popes and priests mediate between Catholics and God. Roman Catholicism on the level of the family. Quite the contrary, being saved means having a direct relationship with God through Jesus Christ, regardless of your gender. No mediators. I believe there were problems in the Corinthian church with super aggressive, verbally contentious women, and Paul was addressing the conflict they were causing, balancing the resulting disorder with rules meant to preserve the group.
You do have a fair point.
Jesus Doctrine You’ve beautifully expressed the highest truth of a Christian marriage. I was commenting upon a less empowering understanding of Christian marriage that sadly exists too.
+cedubs999 -- Spiritual head of the family *does not* mean mediator between anyone and God. Seems you need further study on this. You're way off base. (It was actually the men Paul had trouble with at Corinth). Again, further study needed...
I mean no offense.. There are LOTS of things I need further study in. I just happened to have done this section of 1 Corinthians already.
Mary Mclocke I was responding to views I’ve encountered elsewhere.
cedubs999 it may be a Rhema word for that church. I see what you’re saying.
If you keep reading in context... It says that God does not hold you to legalism... But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.
I Corinthians 11:16 NKJV
Yes we are all under a covering and authority. But not against wearing a hat or mitpachat or hijab or burka etc.. as some middle East women do. This is a law or culture that man added. Yet also having long hair is also considering having a long beard. So as it is written that God does not hold you to that debate.
Thank you! We are not under law...
Yup. So many sexist comments that degrade women, and they don’t ever talk about unmarried women for some reason. Yes women are different then men, but we are in no way inferior intellectually or otherwise except for physical strength most of the time. Women can still hold a leadership role in the church and teach other women. Just not be a pastor or preacher, which makes sense because women in this role could be abused more by unbelievers.
Very clear teaching of a hard to clearly understand doctrine, thank you so much. I'll watch this again to get all the points down pat and share with others. Even though I attend a Church of Christ that follows this exactly, it was never that clearly explained.
Women and their pride. Cover your head if you want to hear God. It is truth. To be rebellious is gonna allow demons...fallen angels...to seek a way in to your souls. You want to risk this because of your pride? Let's remember that we were put on earth as man's companions...plain and simple. God,Jesus,Man, then women. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 11 and get that education fellow Christian ladies! Praying for us all.
Go on to verse 15: But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
Monica H. ATX
Study your Scriptures a little deeper. All true believers, men & women are to cover their heads in submission and respect to our Creator.
Lori Hehn
Good for you! If people would Study the Scriptures for themselves there wouldn't even be such a conversation. Men AND women are to cover their heads. Our Savior even in death had a head covering, A CROWN OF THORNS!
J. Moad - Hello there. Hope youre are well and blessed,you and yours.
Holy God ,in the New Testament, through the Apostle Paul wrote in specificity and exactitude that : it is a sin and dishonors Christ for a man to pray with his head covered. No where is a man instructed *to cover his head in the New Testament. It is specifically addressed and we are instructed that men are *NOT to pray with their head covered. What are your thoughts and understanding in the light of Scripture? i certainly dont mean anything as to be contentious to you personally of course. All God's Very Best for you and yours!
Lori Hehn Paul is giving this as an example to further his argument to cover with a cloth. If you read in the original Greek language you see Paul is talking about a physical Covering
Thank you so much for teaching God’s Word in such a broad and inclusive way. It’s always fascinating to learn from you. Your decades of learning and teaching are so appreciated. Pastors altogether too often fail in this regard, whether it’s short of schooling and/or perpetual learning, or they don’t want to step on toes for fear of insulting the ones who need the messages so badly but do not want to learn because of cultural reasons that westerners make so many exceptions for. They don’t want to hear God’s Word because God doesn’t fit in their life choices. God is an inconvenience to their enjoyment of living. But I’m so blessed to have found your teachings, Dr. B. I hunger for all the details of histories and all the ‘little’ things (they’re not little at all!), for those unending landscapes in the Bible. I really enjoy the explanations of who, when, where, why, how and so much more! I pray for you and Bonnie, Dr. B, I pray for your ministry and the people who benefit, those who love hearing all the details that the western world simply throws aside; many may ask, but they don’t want only a quick one or two word answer which tells them nothing. People in countries where your ministry takes you appreciate every second of every minute, every word, and they want so much more. I’ve heard you say that they don’t even want a coffee break - that’s how much more important learning about God’s Word is to them. You and Bonnie are in my prayers every day. Thank you so, so much for all your time and all you do. God bless you and your ministry ~~~~~
I accepted Lord as my savior long time back but now as i am maturing spiritualy i ve realized one thing. Believing in God is one thing (beginning) but understanding God is another.....we believe we accept become born again but do we understand what God is??
GOD is LOVE.
Ashu...God is also a Judge, and a consuming fire.
Read the book - the fire that consumes and learn that hell fire means annihilation and not eternal suffering ...also do you keep the 7th day Sabbath as mentioned in Ex. 20: 8-11- for Sunday worship was designed by the RCC...
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this lesson!! I am so glad that lady asked!! This has bothered me for decades and your lesson is the best one i've ever heard. 🙏🙏🙏🙏💝💝💝💝
You change your life style to MATCH SCRIPTURE and DO NOT change scripture to match a corrupted life style! also look at Deuteronomy 22:5 > women are Not to be wearing men's clothing
I truly enjoyed this sermon and believe it was the best I have ever heard this taught . Amen. The Kord Yahweh has brought me to modesty and it is so beautiful and blessed . I am a woman of God and respectfully cover my head and body not all my hair, but in doing so as he has called me to do, it reminds me of my headship. Not only of my heavenly Father but of my earthly husband . It humbles and it is good. Oh if more woman in our day would know and learn this.... our Lord, our children, ourselves, and our husband's would be Blessed. The role of a woman is clear throughout all of the Bible, from her home to the body of Christ; the Church. As is it for the man. And as Paul states we have no other way 🤗🙌🙏💞
So pastor my only question to you is if we r to be in continual prayer, how is it we shall not have a covering as reverence to our Lord while doing so? Our husband's are not always with us to be that cover so we do this as respect knowing our authority. 🙌
God bless you real woman of the Most High
the head covering is - hair - and not a veil or hat...read 1st Cor. 11: 14-15 it says it there plainly
We need men in the Church who can answer simple questions simply. I.e., men who aren't concerned about what women might think of them for proclaiming the Truth.
And what truth is that?
When one receives a letter, he/she has to first check to whom it has been addressed. In 1 corinthians 1:1-3, Apostle Paul writes to the church at corinth and to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be saints. This shows that Paul does not only write to the church at corinth but also to those whose lives have been transformed through Jesus Christ. Therefore the book of 1 corinthians was applicable to the church at corinth and still to us who believe in Christ. In 1 corinthians 11: 2, Paul talks about keeping the tradition that he delivered unto us. I strongly believe that head covering using a veil should still be practiced by women since it was practiced by the early Christians until when women wanted to seek attention for themselves that's when they stopped doing it. Women practicing head covering is a sign of submission to their heads and also a sign of Modesty.The same bible tells us not to seek glory for ourselves rather seek to please the Almighty God.
If everyone in our culture is doing the samething that doesn't guarantee that they are all right. God's wisdom is foolishness to the world. The world seeks for fame. Don't go for fame but for the truth.
I am not scared of saying it Women can never be Pastors for this belongs to God alone and this is his church not hers.
Does a woman not have a right to attend church now?
ALL women must cover their heads when in church and around men at all... according to the bible.. The bible says LONG HAIR IS COVERING OF HEAD. How LONG? How old and How long and what do you do with it, have it up or down?
So heads covered, and ''NOT wear PANTS ,'' either ( dressing like men) So modern times would make them'' change the clothes' they wear in modern times. They would need to cover heads all the time to show they are subservient to their husbands or men . That would be in all places as the Holy Spirit lives inside of us so WE are the Temple Of The Holy Spirit. WE are the TEMPLE.
We in our spirit though are """"not male nor female in Christ""" so we are all 'spiritual beings ' and the' Lord works through all people.'
Maybe women should not be educated or work outside homes, like men do? We should stay home and cook in kitchens like they used to do? That was her place, of course. To educate the men/children. Give birth and yet He told Martha, that Mary chose the best way ( by listening to Jesus at His feet, and asking questions and so He liked her asking things and being with Him at His feet, and listening , that was her church) Most men will never lead women, they should evidently be teaching Sunday School and teaching the children, as men are not doing their jobs. To teach morality to the children. They should be the LEADERS of church and home, can they do it?
This is what you mean?
*We live in a different era though now, and women wear pants. They do cut hair like men often, now many times they dress like men, look like men, and do not wear hats or scarves, , and they were to have''' LONG hair.''' Hats on, and dresses'' all '''the time, staying home as you said and only men in church ( teaching Sunday School too?) . Men going home and teaching his wife and family properly , as she does not know enough? She has God's spirit in her , living in her.
So if church is only for men, ( Bride of Christ) Then men would need to do all of the above. Women to do all of the above. Can you see what I mean? Women would just do " Women's work" Men would do "Men's work" if this was the case in this day.
We must be careful so we do not get carried away and we become Amish . Nothing wrong with them but we would need horse buggy and living like they do. Women making their own clothes, and no more buying... Women are NOT TO WEAR SO MUCH JEWRY EITHER. GUESS WE MUST CHANGE OUR WAYS , AND NO MORE MODERN SOCIETY AND NO MORE WOMEN WORKING OUTSIDE HOME, TO HELP SUPPORT THE FAMILY. IT IS MEN'S WORK OUTSIDE HOME, STAY IN HOME and do Women's work and submit to the men.. Women are " SAVED THROUGH CHILDBIRTH" Much to think about is it not?
@Matthew Stewart - Why are you at a Christian video and comment board to use that language and filth? Something seriously wrong with that talk here, as this IS for Christians, and we are NOT interested in your filth talk. They are not enough other videos for you to carry on at and leave Christians alone? Jesus said to expect you people and your abusive speech..I'm just in awe that there are so many of you..Jesus is ALWAYS right, it's a shame you don't get to know Him. it'll change your life.
I agree with you. The churches I've called around me with female pastors have now accepted LGBT agendas and are saying it's not sin. 😞 I called to offer Christian counseling and the moment I said I follow the Bible, they immediately became defensive stating they defend Homosexuality and female pastors. All without me saying a word. I believe God was exposing the lies so I would go elsewhere. It was eye opening to say the least. Now I just trust God to bring people to me.
@@carolweaver3269 ..women are not allowed to enter church if they are on their periods, because they are unclean.. women are not allowed to teach/preach..
women in the old days, (time of Moses) were considered as chatels, property.. their place was in the home, rearing children and looking after the men.. women in those days were saved by childbirth, because a woman who did not have children had no-one to look after her in her old age.. the Bible describes childless women as 'barren'.. that which is barren is of no use..
and do you realise that Islam is based on the OT? that is why Muslim women are treated as second class citizens.. Muhammad adopted the religion of Moses, and this is why Muslims are so violent...
@@GARYWERSLEY Yes it was based on a patriarchal society. That was certainly in the Old Testament. When we look at the' New Testament ' we see Jesus treating women in a' much different' way. He even stops to talk to a woman at the well and knows all she had done, but yet was not saying it to judge as much as to make her realize what she had been doing. She was able to repent and went out to let the people know about Jesus. He did the same for the woman caught in adultery and no one could throw rocks to kill her, as of what Jesus wrote in the sand. NONE of them were without sins. They had to leave. Jesus said " Who is there now woman among you, to judge you?' She said " None " He said " neither will I" BUT she was to " Go and Sin No more" She followed Jesus. The woman anointing Jesus with her oils and her hair to dry his feet was also treated as special as the men wanted to condemn her for not having that oil 'sold.' Jesus also stood up for Mary of Bethany when Martha was upset and worrying about so much, with setting table and cooking. Jesus had mary at His feet taking all he said into her heart and He said" Mary has chosen the best"
Jesus truly knew the worth of women, and Jesus stood up to SAVE everyone, not just men, of course, but EVERYONE is SAVED through his life He gave for us 'all.' He was then Risen from the dead to show us we all can be forgiven and we can be saved and we will rise again and live on eternally. We will not die forever. We may die of our earthly flesh as nothing on earth can last, but our spirits can live on. That is for both men and women.
Many of the women did tell the story of Jesus and even the women were first to see Jesus after He rose from the grave and He had Mary go to the disciples to let them know He was alive. They would not believe her at first as it was not what they thought could happen and because she was a woman, but yet they ran to see and they found she was correct. Jesus wanted her ( a woman) to GO and tell the men that He had risen. They were able to talk about heLord and His work and His ability to save us. they were not told to " shut up" they were allowed to talk to Jesus. We should follow Jesus. We are to do what Jesus wants us to do, as He did too. We follow what Jesus did while on earth
We look to the New Testament. I am not saying anything about women wearing hats in church or long dresses or not talking and just shutting up and having children and not doing anything but gossip and just cook and clean, but yet we know that the Lord ha special work for women and He wants them to tell about Him and to speak out about Him. We are to TEACH the young men ( our sons) that is how it works. The boys learn first with their moms about Jesus and then they learn HOW to speak about Jesus.
I liked the bit about how a women is to pray or prophesy with her head covered so as to honor her head, and this verse in Peter is the mans version I believe.
1 Peter 3: 7. Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
simple: there are 14 women prophetesses mentioned in the Bible--not one woman pastor! totally different
Who was Rhoda? Who was Phoebe? Its more
@@dishonnasowell7123 Phoebe, was a servant of the Lord, a Sister in Christ, but not an elder/pastor/ i.e. position of authority over men.
Rhoda was a maid-servant, joyous about praying and her belief in God. No where in scripture is there a woman given authority over man. In fact it's explicitly the opposite.
they still were teachers.
@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 not over men though. They had no authority over men, in the context of the church.
@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 yes, they were teachers with children and women, helpers to men who were preachers/deacons, etc., and many other positions in the church, but not preachers. remember, it was eve that was deceived
Awesome explanation, I had watched this about a yr ago, but didn't really hear what you were saying.
Am not following the ways and teachings of Jehovah's witnesses, although I did for almost 1 1\2 yrs. I say this because in your explanation, 1 Corinthians 11, and 1 Timothy 2 are exactly how the Church, men and women are. and it's how they teach their students.
So much that I learned, saw, and had explained to me, during that short period of time, fully makes sense now after your breaking it down.
No, I'm not going back, I just wanted to comment on your video and to say thank you.
I grew Up in a Christian church. And first time ever a lady came to visit as a pastor to preach. And I thought why is there a woman preaching I cannot take her seriously. I mean I did not grew up with strict gender role but just seing her talk was very awkward for me. I never asked why but yeah. This pastor goes into such detail. He takes his time to explain. I am learning more from him than going to church or even from my parents.
Yes this man of God did a great explanation
I haven't met a woman yet who, when declaring that she saw no problem with male and female roles being reversed, didn't want the role which she regarded as having MORE POWER. All the talk about ''equality'' vanished in a puff! For Feminists, it's ALWAYS about power. ALWAYS!
Personally, I find it threatening to consider the implications of being an aging single woman with short practical hair, choosing to wear a veil and be submissive to all the (questionable) men in the questionable churches I choose to enter.
Times are not very ideal, and motives often suspect!
I choose to be pure!
You are no doubt a good teacher but you have done a very delayed answer to something simple and straight forward. The answer is No. It is not cultural. A woman must cover her head because the Bible says so. Then you can elaborate kind sir.
Thank you, and there are two different Hebrew words used by Paul, when referring to ‘covering’.
Interesting that wedding veils are still a thing- where did that come from? And, for men to to doff their hats in church or for prayer elsewhere is still a thing, too.
Didn’t he conclude that the “covering” is theoretical, as in the woman is under the authority of man and man under the authority of God
Wow- how long and drawn out and confusing and rambling. The scripture is clear- most churches dont do it. Doesnt mean we shouldn't. However, all things are permissable but not all things are beneficial. One doesnt HAVE to wear it, but it's pretty clear what wearing it implies and shows to the angels.
I chose to stay home and raise my kids till they were out of school. I went to work after that but was still the homemaker and cooked most of the meals. My husband chipped in a bit. At 55 I left the workforce and went back to being a homemaker and love it.
Here is what I don't understand. I did that, I stayed home and had EIGHT babies, and tried to live under my husband, who got worse and worse at the years dragged on. GOD made him sick to get his attention it didn't work. Then when I got sick, he left me. So, I have no covering by the LORD's hand, because He told me not to divorce him. We've been separated for five years and there's NO sign of him coming back, because he's drifted so far from GOD, he even has a girlfriend. So, I'm trapped here, at home, raising the bottom four children alone with NO head covering.
There are two different words for "covering" one is the hair as a natural expression, and another word that describes the covering over the hair.
Gwendolyn Wehage actually three because the husband or Christ if not married is a covering as well.
Antonique Cowart ???
Joseph Robi Yes??
Yes, hence the need for women to have a literal physical covering on their head. Just as the covering that men should not put on is a literal physical covering. Great teaching but sadly missed out on the conclusion.
Antonique Cowart No ???
🤣🤣🤣🤣 carrying refrigerators on their ahead!🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed so hard at that I almost fell off the sofa! Oh that’s a good one!🤣 bless you Pastor!😁
IS NOT CULTURAL IS GOD'S AUTHORITY.
"IT'S"
Rosa Colon correct. It’s not cultural also because Angels are not only cultural. They are eternal. We cover because of the Angels, not because of cultural.
I felt so bad when I saw David Wilkerson allowed a women pastor to preach in the Church.
I am surprised he didn't make reference to the curse in Gen 3:16 and explain the Hebrew meaning of the word "desire." "Yet your desire shall be for your husband." The word includes the picture of usurping. i.e. a woman will have the desire to usurp the God ordained order of the man being the head of a woman. It is part of the curse of the fall as much as having pain in childbirth. All this has to do with the *office* of each. Man is the president. Woman is the vice-president.
I’ve always been of the mindset that men should be men, and women should stay home. Society would be so much better if people raised their own kids.
There are two different Hebrew words Paul said, when referring to hair and covering in these verses. One word refers to a woman’s natural hair and the other refers to a veil placed over the head. Look it up. Two different words with two different meanings. Facts are very important when it comes to honoring our Father’s headship. Teaching woman the wrong message about head coverings is in itself dishonorable.
The issue at Corinth was not whether long or short hair was an acceptable
covering, but whether or not the head was covered with a veil or hat. This
is proven by the following:
----"Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth
his head" (v. 4). The distinction here is obviously not between short and
long-haired brethren, but rather between men with covered and uncovered
heads.
Contentious sisters were provided with an alter native: either cover the
head or be shorn or shaven ( v. 6). But if long hair were the intended
covering, then the Apostle's alternative is meaningless.
"Cover" ( -ed, -ing) in the A.V. disguises the fact that different words for
"to cover" are used in the Greek text.
The distinction between two of these, "katakalupto" and "peribolaion" proves
that a veil or head covering, and not long hair is intended. These words are
as follows:
"Katakalupto" ( 'kata' = 'fully'; 'kalupto' = 'to cover up'), "to cover
fully" ( Yg). This word occurs through out verses 5- 13 and is translated
"veil" in the R.S.V.; Nestle and Marshall's "Interlinear Greek-English New
Testament'' and many other versions.
These translations make it plain that the issue relates to a head covering,
not the growth of hair, long or short.
"Peribolaion" ('peri' = 'around'; 'ballo' = 'to throw, cast'), "something
cast around" ( Y g). The long hair of a woman is her glory - like a mantle
cast around ( v. 15) .(8) But this is not to be displayed in the assembly of
believers before the presence of God. The intended covering in the ecclesial
meeting is the "katakalupto" ---- the head covering or veil.
When Paul refers to the long hair given to the woman as her glory, he is
drawing a parallel with what "nature" or common-sense suggests.
This can be seen from the following:
MAN long hair is degrading.
WOMAN long hair is her glory.
Therefore. a parallel is evident [natural] with the spiritual a man ought
not to cover his head a woman ought to cover her head.
4. The mistaken interpretation (9) evident in the question results from
reading verse 15 as if it were the conclusion of the argument rather than an
additional appeal to common-sense by a parallel: what "nature itself
teaches.".
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 why is the best explanation of the truth down here at the bottom and I'm the only one hitting like. Smh. TY for the full expounding of the text.
Amen! 💗 God has ministry for each of us to do... accepting that is submission to His will. Surrender to God means I give up my rights and my life for His authority. And aren’t we always wondering what God’s will is? There is a way to know... honestly pray and obey this Scripture...
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”
Romans 12:1-2
Excellent message to God be the glory, He is using you brother. Our world is saturated in occult activity and its all over the church also
No doubt. God bless you and keep you. Christ is King and is coming back soon.
This is a good example of what God warns us about.
Scripture says to not move ancient landmarks, rules set out by God to obey.
To let women preach is to move that ancient landmark.
Got hates disobedience.
Where is the specific word "Pastor" ever found in the epistles of Paul regarding church leaders?
I think pastor as in women teachers and stuff
Teaching other women and children, sharing the gospel, yes.
That was truly wonderfully explained. And, as it should be, simple. Thank you.
Thank you Lord! Praise and glory to you Abba Father!
Dear John is my favourite teacher! But not totally convinced here. Vs 6 let her be covered. Original text I believe is Veiled. "No flesh should glory in His presence". A woman covers her glory, and shows submission to her husband. Also to God. "Vs 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels". So not only that, she is a testimony before the angels, the good ones, and the wicked principalities and powers, that where they did not keep to God's order, but refused to submit to Him, we as the redeemed show our obedience and submission to God's Order in the church. Imagine the mighty testimony, as we partake of the emblems around the Table of the Lord to remember the mighty sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for our sin in the presence of our enemies!
When my husband and I decided to have a baby , 5 years after we were married , I stopped working and became a full time homemaker. Before our baby was born my husbands dad was furious with me and told me how his son was going to have to pay all the bills. This was in 2002. My husband's dad still doesn't speak to me.
This is how it should be, and yet we have gotten into egotism and wanting more and more and more. ( greed) We do not put our faith in Jesus and people are not as happy, even though they were not so rich in any way, but they did stay with family, and 'try to make things work much more often.' The women then can bring up the children a little easier knowing what they are doing or where they are going etc, and spend more time doing what, as women, they should do. women had to go to work when the men went out to war, that is how it all started that we became a two-person working family. then we needed two cars and two this and that.
I’m sorry to hear that. Christianity was the first religion to honor women and trust them as humans equal to men. From a woman’s right to chose her husband to all races being equal came from Jesus. Every part of God’s creation has its own equally important and honorable job. There is a reason to Gods plan. When we go against it is when we see chaos. Your child is better off because you were brave. God Bless
While it is good to have a pleasant relationship with your inlaws, please remember that you're not under the rule of your father-in-law. You being a homemaker is a decision to be made between you and your husband. Too many marriages are torn apart by inlaw interference!
You have to pray for him he is a lost soul
nick fratilescu amen!!
I desire to be a home maker, but never met a HOLY MAN. Thus I have been single for over 20 years. No man has ever paid for anything I own. Now I am paralyzed and need help and suffer daily ALONE, and I am more blessed, than the poor married women. Especially those being tortured by their husbands.
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It sounds like you're harnessing your bitterness and twisting it to make you feel superior to others. Have you considered getting Christian counseling? Your comment sounds nothing like a woman who's found Godly peace. It sounds like you're living in the stage of grief of denial and are doing that so hard that you're screaming at everyone else who's content in their marriage and living their own lives while your head is buried in the sand.
I'm sorry for all the difficulties you live with. I hope you survived quarantine. You shouldn't look down on people for not living up to your superhuman standards. There are very few GREAT men, and those men don't do sour attitudes or people without humility and peace. Most men are good and want to be better, and a good woman can propel them to become great. You wanted someone who was great already, which is fine, but you didn't have the humility to walk in the human process with someone and to love them as they were with the commitment to improve one another daily. You came at it all from the wrong angle and are wreaking of bitterness and resentment now.
PLEASE, I URGE you to get counseling to help you unravel this web to find emotional healing and peace. You're worthy of love in your imperfection. Please get counseling
Head covering = Optional = Custom (1 Cor 11:16)
Woman Pastors = No = Commandment of the Lord (1 Cor 14:37)
Case closed!
Landowar , in 1st Corinthians 11verse 16 Apostle Paul didn't say Head covering is a custom ; he rather wanted to say this : " we have not the custom or the habitude to be contentious like the Corinthian christians , neither the churches of God have not the custom or the habitude to be contentious like Corinthe's church .
No, you didnt listen.
Thank you for your clear explanation of the text. I really enjoyed your teaching.
This gentlemen, I'm certain is a kind man, however his ability to teach what the bible clearly states for fear of upsetting people about what God says is crazy. Women, this is easy, the Holy Spirit guided Paul to pass on to you to COVER YOUR HEADS when praying or prophecy. The fact that you don't like what GOD has instructed you to do is between you and God. Good luck with him changing his mind because you don't like it. This is a perfect microcosm of people who claim to be Christians picking the bible apart to suite their needs rather than heeding what the Creator has instructed and doing as commanded. Praise God, the king of kings, Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, the most high God, Jesus Christ.
He is trying to explain why. To reason. There is nothing wrong with what he says. Yes he is trying to "keep the peace" but he is also talking truth. Respectfully. With a little tact. . . Don't you agree?
@@nealthomson9505, no I can't agree. He has the interpretation on head coverings wrong, flat out wrong. Women are to cover their heads, and hair is not that cover. All the rest of his sermon was on point and delivered wonderfully. Those women that were dressing inappropriately and causing the deacons to stumble, should be escorted out of the church. Many good things said however a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Amen.
Hey@@kentholden8723 :)
But that's what he said. It's a respect thing. A conforming to the order of creation thing.
Women should also cover their head when praying in private because of the angels.
publicly praying or prophesying
God bless you mightily bro. John. I thank God for you in Jesus mighty name, for I learn so much from you. Love from Malta❤️
what about the passage ' for the sake of the angels "
And we wonder why our families are falling apart, that divorce rate in the church mirrors secular society, that our children have inaccurate interpretations of the word thusly leaving the church altogether. My best advice to girls/ women who might read this is to never entertain the idea of dating a man who is not a Christian. It is very difficult to follow Gods plan when the head of your family doesn't even acknowledge his place in Gods order.
Your thoughts on Paul calling Phoebe a deacon and a prostatis. Paul had Phoebe deliver his letter to the Roman church, and introduced her as his emissary. In I Timothy 3:11 it is implied that Timothy also had female deacons in his churches. Paul mentions men and women prophesying in church, which involves speaking in church.
+PJ Taylor
A deacon in Greek is the English word servant. It was by no means a position of leadership or authority but limited to administration work
I am wondering why most of these people call him pastor... JESUS CHRIST is my PASTOR and his Holy Spirit teaches me and supposed to teach them who are disciples of Jesus Christ
@@MrConsto We are all servants of God.
+Carol Weaver yes but we are not all ordained (servants) deacons with administrative authorities. Please don’t down play the position of a deacon.
@@c1peewee -- A Pastor is an earthly shepherd, just as a Teacher is. This Professor also happens to go by Dr. Barnett more than by Pastor. We are to seek teachers on earth and Christ provides us those shepherds like Dr. Barnett. It's ALL 100% Biblical. Don't do one thing and feel you can lecture others on what isn't even Biblical.. that's prideful, and it's sin.
The Bible says that God does not "play favorites". IF you wish to actually do what you SAY, then go and actually do so..just don't be sending scolding comments to we who are doing what is totally Biblical as you have NO right.
Glad I found this guy. He is brilliant. Tough questions to answer off the cuff.
Thank you. It's really important that we understand that Man was made in the image of God before the women was made from the man. The first man Adam is were sin originated and permeated all man-kind. Sin did not come through women. Now this is important as to miss this is to miss the miracle of the gospel. How so? Because as sin came through the first Adam so righteousness would come through the Last Adam who is Christ. So how does this work through? God humbled Himself and became a man, the man Jesus Christ. Just think for a minute how amazing that is, but then we read that a husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her (the man has to humble himself and die to self). When christian couples live in the order of headship that God has defined in scripture the gospel itself will be seen in action in the relationship between the husband and His wife. Now, when this is redefined and women are allowed to operate in a wrong order and start to be head over a man it's going to undermine more than a marriage.
I've been told that the women couldn't speak was just for the church of Corinthians because the women there were unruly and disobedient.
Oh my. Honest truth, finally to hear a pastor be brave, and truthful regarding gender specific roles, God given order in the church, and the affirming the decision to stand with his wife and die, not in rebellion or because of deception, but because of love, as Jesus being called the Last Adam, proves. Men are commanded to love their wives, as Jesus loved his church, and he gave himself for it. Women as wives, are commanded to obey their husbands in everything, a much easier, or less costly duty, hardly ever, life ending I'm sure.
He was not perfect as in ending he (thinking himself doing them a favor), dropped the necessity of silence, in the church. Satan can do so much damage to the church, and home, with the little door he leaves open. God knows why he commands that women be silent, he doesn't need pastors second guessing him, pretty soon they will be writing in the newspaper, how intolerant the church is being, for not giving their blessing to homosexual behavior and marriages, as same sex couples are ordained as priests in some churches, sometimes even being female??? Jesus taught that even if the act was not committed, you can still sin in your heart first. Anyways what an act of submission to God, as the community witnesses, especially the children, when they see all the women, hold their tongues during services. Priceless. Even telling them a second time, his written words were and are the commandments of your God. Well nobody is perfect I guess, but very good not giving that woman her desired answer, and instead telling everybody the truth with love, for I and hopefully many other (not gender specific) members, are not ashamed of the doctrine of Christ, and instead would wish that shamefacedness would accompany a slip of a women's voice in the church, that the scripture alludes to. Thank you so much. =)
Most people forget its just as much about a man taking off his hat as a women to stay covered. It's a very Christian practice for men to be uncircumcised and no hat...... theres relationship in the structure its design and we all know how important design is to all of gods works.
I've also heard it said that a woman's head covering is her Hair. Because the lesbians on the island had shaved their heads as he stated.
1 Corinthians Ch 11.
Dr Finny Kuruvilla does a 3 part series on the headcovering. Probably the best I've ever heard. He's on youtube, its also on the facebook head covering movement page
Please understand that I'm definitely not making a statement because there are more women than just the "well-married" kind. What if your husband was an abusive, faithless, adulterous oath-breaking egomaniac? Should that woman still ask of her husband? Because I kind of feel like having a faulty husband-picker shouldn't disqualify a woman from asking things. And what of single or divorced women? Are they just supposed to wait until they're married again or they forfeit asking if they don't marry (remarry)?
But more concerningly is the man who can pray with you twice daily while being unfaithful... doesn't that seem like you're lying to God? As you're hurt spouse is suspecting but only praying aloud about God shielding, protecting your marriage because any confrontation would result in ugly confrontation, possibly one to threaten one's physical health and well-being; its the most one might dare.
But also, divorce feels like a sin. Jesus even says that God only allowed the bill of dovorcement in Moses day in cases of adultery, calling them a heard-hearted lot in the process. It seems that even arouses of adulterers and adulterers alike are urged/encouraged to reconcile their marriage.
Excellent exegesis, I've been studying these issues for years; your explanation is the best so far. One other point did you know that the word for covering in 1cor 11: 15 is a different Greek word used in the rest of this text...?
κατακαλύπτω katakaluptō to cover up:-cover(2), covered(1).
Verse 15: περιβόλαιον peribolaion; that which is thrown around, a covering:-covering(1), mantle(1).
I'm thinking it's pointing towards the way the hair is worn or styled.
Many Thanks.
mercy johnson
Interesting. Tamar wore a veil when she played the harlot. Just as Yahweh declares that he detests the Sabbaths of the people, does he hate his children for keeping his command? If so, then he would have had no delight in Yeshua. Yeshua walked in the Torah perfectly. The veil represents his children playing the whore. Just as the Sabbath and appointed times that Yahweh hated were not his appointed times, but THEIRs.
Mark Robins thank you for stating that 2 different Greek words are used to discuss this issue. Those that believe the hair is the covering some how always leave that out.. Ty
Agree, the covering I cover my hair with is "veil" in the Greek. So I veil my glory. It is a testimony to the angels, to the good, and to the fallen who did NOT submit to God's authority when they were cast out of heaven, testifying that the Church is in submission to God, and the women declare this by their head coverings on behalf of the whole church. How beautiful is God's order in the Church. And how hard the enemy tries to deny and discount this wonderful truth of the order of God.
Jennifer Charles God sees you honey, even when other naysayers shun the directive.theres an all seeing eye watching!!!
I. Being very adamant about this subject, I often wring my hands at even the evangelist of the church of Christ of which I belong.they never bring up the subject and run when asked about it!! Thank you
Our Brain, our "head" should be covered by YHWH so that our Heart, in which dwells the Holy Spirit (The Helper Jesus GIFTED to us), can direct our every action and reaction in HIS AGAPE LOVE.
I LOVE YOU ALL.
So men should not have long hair ? What about Samson ?im still confused can we define long I need to know if I should get a hair cut
Oooooh, good point. . . Maybe he was an exception. Because he was instructed. . . I don't know. Wish he saw your comment.
Google "Nazirite", and you'll find the answer.
One of the best teaching that I have heard on the said topic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
God over Jesus, Jesus over man, man over woman, and woman over child.
Not one claims absolute domination through torture, wrongdoing, or assault. God does not insult or assault Jesus, Jesus does not do this to man, man should not do this to woman, and woman should not do this to children.
Until a woman finds her man she is should remain covered by the only men in her life. Her earthly father, the savior, and God. She should remain virgin until marriage, as well as man should also remain virgin until marriage. This keeps God's command, his headship, and pleases him. She should ask, and he should as well question their father so that he can ask Jesus Christ for guidance which comes from God. It is not until the two are married that the women now takes on a new head. That is why he should ask the earthly father for her hand. The earthly father should take into account, get to know and see that he is good by his earthly father, Jesus, and ultimately God.
When he says yes then he, the earthly father, is passing his gracious gift, given by God, which is his daughter over to the soon to be husband. Now once married they consummate that marriage. If the man is to die she is now a widow and must return to Jesus as her head. Just as if the woman passes the man keeps his head as Jesus.
This is not ownership, this is not slavery, this is morale bedrock. Its not about man being disobedient and thinking his wife is a lesser being. Or that woman should be abused by her man because it's his right, because it's not. It is simply that when you are married you start a new chapter under God. That is how I take it and how it was always explained to me. I love my wife. I would never harm her, or scold her for doing something wrong in my eyes. I just simply love her and help guide her back to Jesus through me, and God through Jesus. She should treat me the same because woman was created to help keep man level with God. We are equal under Jesus and God. Jesus who is Immanuel or "God with us" God in the flesh. His only earthly form. And God our father in heaven who is outside of time and limitless. We should cherish each other because that is our great grace from God that we can occupy this world, and our home together and have further blessings of children.
The child asks mommy, if mommy says no and child throws a fit, then Daddy steps in and nobody defies daddy because daddy only answers to Jesus who is God. Simple, straight forward. Discipline does not have to be abusive, but should be compassion driven. One is to compliment the other as equals.
Covering is simply obeying God's command. Being wholesome and not just giving yourself away to anyone, but the right one. Discipline through love. Keep his temple Holy. King Solomon was a fine example of this in Song of Solomon, and his wife was a fine example of following God's command until they were wed.
"I have found the One whom my soul Loves"- Song of Solomon 3:4
Only once we are properly given to one another do the souls receive and become one. We should never demean this gift from God of each other. I am willing to die to protect her, and she is willing to die for our children. But we can't do it without the strength given by God.
In way a wife has no greater power than when they are supported wholly by the Husband, who passes his power from Jesus, who has passed his power from God. In this way woman remain strong, and the Children through her.
It's simply beautiful!
More men must stop divorces and separations, and stay and be good husbands, that can LEAD the family spiritually, and step up to the plate, so the women would not need to lead so often. We need men to be men and do what the Lord wants them to do. We have too many who stay home and do not support the wife with the children, Some just leave and the wife is alone teaching and doing it all. This is the duty of both . the woman and the man have responsibilities in this whole thing as we are both and all of the family is filled with the Holy Spirit once we are "saved" I think we are very weak in this area. Women become leaders when they do not have men who will lead.
The Bible does ask women to cover their heads in church, in 1 Corinthians Ch 11 and to only ask the husband at home ( if they are able) and if they do not understand, what is said, but most in this day, understand it all well, but they can discuss it at home and with the children. s I feel they need a Worship corner to take time to go and Read bible together as family someplace in the home and have the bible there and children/ bible and talk with them where it is set and you will have their attention ( that is just my idea, did not read that in the bible) It begins the habit to pray together and study together and take a little time alone with Jesus so the children can learn to do this and husband and wife can do this together if they do not have children. The church should not be just on Sunday, We are the "Temple of the Holy Spirit"
It would be wonderful if the wife could stay home to raise the children and the husband work outside and they may have less money but more spiritual life and the mom can be sure the children are getting the best care if possible and have time to do well with the home. Just a thought, as thinking this was in mind in the old times? Materialism is over crazy now, just because it can be that way. Al because women went out to work when the men had to go into the service during WW1 and WW2, and then they took over factory work, and other work, when the men left and that began all this stuff as women saw how great it was to earn money! It started feeling of power, I guess?
Ignorance is not necessarily bliss. Just a point of order here. Jesus said "The Father and I are One." Jesus is God. I know what you've been taught, but it's blasphemy. Now, when the time comes, you cannot say that you weren't told.
@@carolweaver3269
:-) Carol, I can always tell the men and women who know their left hand from their right hand, - by whether the women where a head covering, and the men understand divine order and don't tolerate the spirit of Jezebel.
There aren't many Spiritual Christians around at all, who are able to restore someone who is taken in a fault, because the vast majority are themselves in an androgynous comfort zone.
It's basically to do with wholeness in Christ isn't it ? :-)
@@matriarchyh8r A true Christian is all you think they are, not. Some people may be religious and some may be Christians. Ther is quite a difference. But this world has turned often to loosen their lives to become like Sodom and Gomorrah, and that is not anything to do with what our Lord would want. People are made to 'choose for themselves whom they will follow, Satan or God'. No one can force them. But because we are not teaching about God any longer in schools, and in homes, they often do not even have Prayer corners for families to pray together and take that time to do it, we have grown farther from where it needs to be now. Always have we had those who may say they are Christians, but are not, and people judge all, by the few.? We have many who say they follow this person or that person, but they really do not. They follow themselves, and their own lust. So it is an individual matter. We cannot say who is more Christian than another unless we see them living wrongly. But we do not judge and we leave it to God so that alone makes us let people do what they want and with that, we have seen many people choose the easy, but wrong way of nothing but their passions. If you are a Christian you follow Jesus Christ, but if you fake it God knows. If not, it will show in your conduct. But no one is ever perfect. we k ow people by their "fruits" and so it is more their conduct, and their conscious which t that point will want to live modestly and dress modestly and do all in that manner, and what they show in their lives, is more important than anything else.
So cool I fnd this video, God has taught me through the Holy Spirit all these truth since I became a Christian 10 yrs ago, but I was never able to explain it to others but this vid def help me articulate it. Also b/c of my submission to my husband’s authority i’ve NEVER had an unanswered prayer wen my requests line up w/ God. Lastly, it’s not an easy thing to do but God’s reward is always worth it. Thank you Jesus
So you agree with Woman cannot be pastors?
Amen
This lesson on covering woman head in prayer or in church is soft because the Bible say it plain women have to cover the head and can't be a pastors
Great SHEAPERD and outstanding Sermon. Another great sermon on this very thing from Dr. Brooks teacher early in his work is Pastor John Macarthur from Grace to you. Please watch this outstanding Sermon from both of these Godly men.
Wow very well explained!!! Thank you so much Pastor!!! More power and wisdom to you!!!
Many thanks for guiding us in greater understanding! Awesome!
Every word of God is a parable, until the Holy Spirit reveals the meaning of the Scripture to you , you will interpret it as you read it.
May God HELP us.
+Jenny J -- NO, every word of God is *not* a Parable. Before you (or anyone) starts reading the Scriptures, you pray for the Holy spirit to lead you to all truth. Especially if you are saved, He will do this. *Jesus spoke in SOME Parables sometimes* throughout the Gospels, so that those among the people in the crowds following him were *sincere*, they would understand the Parables. Those who were NOT sincere about following Him and obeying Him and all He said, could NOT understand the Parables. It's how He separated the "sheep from the goats" so to speak back in those days. It is not difficult to correctly exegese (interpret) the Scriptures if you DO have the Holy Spirit leading you and IF you really *study* using the surrounding verses. Correct exegeses *cannot* be done with only one verse. It *always* takes using the several verses before and after the verse you are trying to understand.
So NO need for "May God help us"...Though His Holy Spirit WILL help us to understand the Scriptures if we pray before reading the Scriptures for His help and guidance.
+Jenny J --Jesus spoke in SOME Parables, but God's every word are NOT Parables. The Holy Spirit is VERY clear regardless of who He is speaking to, and again, not in Parables *except* where Jesus makes it clear in the four Gospels that He is speaking in a Parable. The Bible is breathed by the Spirit of God...It's the Holy Spirit also who leads us to all truth when we read God's word..we should always pray beforehand for Him to lead us to all truth and to write the word's knowledge on our hearts. To the unbeliever, the Bible is no more than another book, they don't understand it..but it's not a Parable.
Now I'm going to listen to this guy till now he is doing good.
Thank you for the fastidious explanation. I've listened to various protestant explanations (my first being Ray Steadman) and truly tried to follow the biblical logic. My upbringing (eastern orthodox) was just the plain understanding....you covered your head in church. But...then everyone prays outside of church and so do you cover your head then, too??? (I''ve always questioned Eastern Orthodoxy since childhood, so this is not a firm belief). Still don't make the connection as to what Apostle Paul said about women and head covering... However, when you spoke about the Masculinity, Femininity (yes it is a word), and Androgenicity (I believe you wrote Androgeny and I'm wondering if what I wrote is a word, too) the light bulb lit up! Supermoms...have a career, be a homemaker, raise children, be a wife, and renovate a foreclosed house (in my case).... I nearly died, literally. I lost an in utero child, I hated my husband for the load I was carrying, and God did not bless our union. 25 years later, my daughter won't listen to my advice...but God's plan is easier to follow than the plan of the world. The farmer is the exemplary microcosm of modern and ancient times. To live, its easier to have a mate to divide the chores. To have children, its easier to eventually divided the chores. The children become legacy and they eventually become your sustenance. With God all things are possible...because God already foresaw our needs. God already foresaw our gender characters. He made them.
You can tell the pastor is very uncomfortable with this question. The feminists have already crucified him in their minds. The head coverings and angels could refer to genesis when the angels left their abode and mated with human women. Covering the heads of women could reference not tempting the angels. I think Islam teaches this as well.
Yes you can tell by the way the reader read the question!
You are amazing Pastor John!
Well done! 🕊
He is not your pastor he is your brother ... JESUS CHRIST is ...
What I heard is that Timothy's congregation were not told to wear a head covering. Just not to wear jewels in their hair, (or more correctly, braids). And to dress modestly with a clean motive.
Worship God, not appearance. Allow God to direct our service, our lives, and our relationships.
What about "the priesthood of all believers" including woman?
Cover your head while praying and prophesying if God gives you that gift. No need to cover during sermon
@@mirjanabosnjak8064 What gift, gift of woman covering their head or gift of obedience?
At 0:58 - What do you mean, "Not that I want to do the Head Covering "thing"? If the Bible tells Women to cover their Head, while praying or prophesying, then you cover your Head, while praying or prophesying!
Yes the mockery is quite sad
THIS HEAD COVERING THING FOR WOMEN MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME. AND I DON'T THINK IT EVER WILL UNTIL JESUS HIMSELF EXPLAINS IT TO ME. I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLICATED, WOW.
If you would have listened to this untill the end then you would see how it makes perfect sense .I 'ma woman who never could understand this until I just watched this man make it sense ,great teaching on this topic
@@barbjustus462 By all means, explain.
Yup, this has more to do with Corinth and Lesbos. I don’t question the authority of God or the position of a Christian husband as leader, but I don’t get the head covering or the problem with short hair. Not very relevant today?
It's to do with divine order; - The fall ; and Redemption through Christ, as we work out our salvation, which requires some structure and order for things to work properly.
Things must be seen to be in order, especially as we are coming out of ignorance and dealing with sin, and these issues can be quite deep.
We need structure to help guide us while deep aspects of life are a bit over our heads.
The glory scriptures go with the head scriptures.
Whether we are a man or woman we are the glory of the one who is our head (point of reference). Women are what they are in relation to man.
Men are what they are, in relation to Christ.
Man is the image and glory OF God.
Woman is the glory OF man. She is not her own, she is his glory.
And the man is not his own, he is God's, image, and glory.
Adam was with God before Eve was taken out of him and made for him , and God was bringing the animals to Adam to see what he would name them.
So Adam had pre-eminence, but Eve was made glorious and with procreative power which gave her equivalency to Adams pre-eminence.
Also, because we have an adversary that has been pumping out subtle lies that displace many important contributory truths, we end up blind sided about the basic distinctions, so now, most "people" don't know what masculinity and femininity are anymore.
We , especially in the west have become robbed of the Truth.
The only thing I can say is you are not alone, and it is a journey of deliverance and discovery to come back to Truth.
Then the scriptures mean what they say, and they are wonderful, not onerous.
I had to go outside the Church to find truth that was there in the scriptures all along.
The problem was, that I was under the common mind-set, and so were all the Christians I was mixing with, so I couldn't understand the scriptures.
The god of this world blinds the minds of people with many subtle lies that link together.
Start weeding them out, one at a time.
You'll come out eventually, then you'll find that Paul's teachings mean what they say, but then you'll be out on a limb, but at least you'll have your balls in the right place.
You'll be a whole man. That will mean leadership and humility, but that's what we are here for.
You are the best explainer of explainers!!
This scripture is deeper than we think. To summarise all this. It's all spiritually covering Christ is talking about
I pray Father opened your heart to understand this.
As (humans) we all are married to Christ means - sealed together with him through his Spirit.
-The man hear is Jesus Christ and his covering is God. he came to do the will of God
- likewise we flesh (mortal man) our covering is Jesus, we also must do the will of God through Jesus Christ.
- the flesh can not give birth to the spirit, the Holy Spirit was send for man kind and He the Spirit of Truth need a body to work with and there wouldn't be a body without the Holy Spirit. Our real self is the Spirit wetin us. Read john 15:4 -6 and matched it to this verse.
- the covering is a sealed of ownership. The bible says we are not our own that we have been bought by a price which is the Blood of Jesus Christ
We all are answerable to Him alone. If you are praying without Jesus Christ who is your covering, you are wasting your time.
When Jesus was on this earth everything He did was to pleased God which is His covering. Everything about the word of God is Spiritual and is only between Him and you. I pray God take away the veil that covers the heart of understanding. Please any questions write to me, thanks and God bless you.
Actually, it's all a lot simpler than you think. That's the problem. Making issues out of non-issues and out of whole cloth. Get a red letter version of the NT. Read it. Everything that applies to YOU, as a Christian, is there. Don't worry about anything else.
I guess my confusion is if it just means long hair for women, why would there be an emphasis to cover ones head when praying or prophesying? I imagine if you have long hair it would be automatic. On the other hand if it's a piece of clothing, then do I need to wear a cloth on my head if I pray in the shower (I do this often)?
@kayana411 Thank you but it didn't answer my questions.
I think women should have long hair as a sign of feminity and should cover it as a sign of humility. But don't worry, it's perfectly okay to pray with your head uncovered in the shower x) see, you're alone, it's just you and God, who sees your heart anyway. Meanwhile in Church it's a way of showing you're hiding your beauty, your glory, so that the focus is on His beauty and His glory, and it's a way of showing you accept to be submitted to your husband in a godly, biblical, holy manner. So it's like a statement. You don't need to make the statement in the shower :P
I changed to singing and praising, or just talking to the Lord in the shower, but not praying.