Christian Head Covering Testimony, History of the Head Covering, NOT WHAT YOU THINK! - Daniel Willis
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- Christian Head Covering Testimony, History of the Head Covering, NOT WHAT YOU THINK! - Daniel Willis
Headcovering Throughout Christian History - The wearing of fabric head coverings in worship was universally the practice of Christian women until the twentieth century. What happened? Did we suddenly find some biblical truth to which the saints for thousands of years were blind? Or were our biblical views of women gradually eroded by the modern feminist movement that has infiltrated the Church...?Women of nobility began wearing head coverings in order to set themselves apart from women of lower social status. In Christianity, women were guided by the bible to cover their heads to signify spiritual submission to God and their husbands. Here is a guide to head coverings, listed by religion. So don't wait let's check out our video for many interesting and bible related videos on our CZcams channel “Sound Faith'' or click on the link for more videos: / soundfaithchannel
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00:00 Headship Order
03:10 1Corinthians 11:1-16
05:09 Our Headcovering Journey
06:35 Sisters at the Chinese Church
08:15 1 Corinthians 11:15
08:31 1 Corinthians 11:16
09:41 My Wife's inquiry
10:01 1 Corinthians 11:13
11:00 Counting our cost
12:52 Churches in Tennessee and Georgia
12:57 Ignatius
13:36 Find a church? Go back to China? Go to Haiti?
14:34 Kingdom Fellowship Weekend
17:35 Chambersburg Christian Fellowship
17:40 Preparing for Opposition
18:04 Quote about women veiling their heads
18:20 If the veil was Practiced
19:25 Quote about women never forgetting the head-covering
20:28 Slideshow of different head-coverings
21:10 When did Churches lose the veil
21:57 Charles Coastes
22:54 R.C Sproul
23:22 R.C Sproul Jr.
23:46 Luma Simms
24:00 Mary Kassian
24:13 Quote from Canadian pastor
24:50 British Theologian
24:54 J.Robertson Mcquilkin
25:46 Klock, a reformed pastor
26:35 Divorce Rates
27:24 What churches veiled?
27:54 Quote from Luther
28:19 John Calvin
29:36 The beaches from 1899
31:27 The beaches of Today
31:46 How many Christians are in the world
32:40 A challenge to Everyone
33:57 Back to What churches veiled
34:37 Augustine
34:38 Chrysostom
35:20 Tertullian
35:52 Irenaeus
36:20 Ending words
37:05 Thoughts and Questions
45:10 The End
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The entire family thoroughly enjoyed your testimony!! It was an inspiration to hear how you took that first step with wearing the head covering, before you were fully persuaded. Continue serving the Lord with joy, and being a blessing to many in the years to come.
As an African it's just too natural for us to cover our hair, but I was nearly stoned in a white church trying to talk to them about head covering and holiness. My pastor told me they have replaced all those things. I was so sad, Holy Spirit then spoke to me loud 🔊 and clear 'Come out from amongst them ' I came out and there is freedom in worshiping God in modest way. God is Faithful Hallelujah 🙌
I’m sorry you were subjected to that. The truth should stand regardless of color or ethnicity. Thank you for standing up for head coverings. ❤️
I am covering my head now as I came upon that scripture. I am the only one in my church who does so. I spoke with the pastors wife, and she agreed with me but still has not decided to cover her head.
@@carnivoroushoneybee7862 The truth is that most women either don't want to submit or they are embarrassed to cover due to vanity, or for fear of ridicule, or both. What God thinks is all that should matter to the believer. We need to honor Him and not worry what men think about us.
There are women who are legalistic about head covering who don't cover their heads for the right reasons. It's not about modesty it is about power on the woman's head because of the angels (when praying and prophesying). It is a symbol of authority on the woman's head, it is not a full time covering so that men cannot see the woman's glory. Head covering wasn't really an issue for nearly 2000 years, but since the sexual revolution, rebellion abounds, so it has become a contested issue. So today, if head covering is preached about at all, it is mostly preached against, and so it takes the Holy Spirit to convict those who have been taught wrong doctrine. He just doesn't convict anyone above what is written.
Unfortunately I have found that I am usually amongst the few in church that covers my head, I have been called a legalist for wanted to obey the word. It’s so hard, but I know the blessings that I have seen from it.
I agree with your point that if we stand out against culture in our dress we can be used to make them feel close convicted about their dress. The true salt. That is part of my own testimony, I had a sister in Christ that wore a shirt in the pool and I at that time was a baby believer and I wore a bikini. I felt naked, and after that I begun dressing more modestly.
Head coverings has nothing to do with culture but the authority of God.
I'm the only woman in my church who covers. I'm covered all the time and I'm wondering if I will eventually told to stop. I will not stop!
I've recently started while in church. I asked my Pastor how he feels about it. Pastor's response was first, what kind of
Head covering. Then he told me just wanted me to understand that I don't have to. But sure, go ahead. So, I've went in with a hoodie on. I've ordered a couple hooded dresses. But yes, some people are noticing. I feel so strongly to wear one. My fiancee has passed, and my first husband has passed. But I still feel in prayer, I should have a head covering. Thank you for your comment, I super appreciate it.
The Feminine Dominate spirit. This has plagued me almost my adult whole life. I praise God for taking me in repentance.
I listened to this over a year ago. Now, I am re-listening to it again. I have been covering for over two years. I am the only woman in our mountain community to cover my head. I was curious why no one said anything to me about it. One friend finally told me that the people in our community (and our former church) just think I am "going through a phase" and to ignore it. Curious.
My husband supports me and I feel it helps me to show respect to him. I love the example of how Christ honored his Father. My husband honors Christ and I honor my husband. Beautiful example ❤.
Amen. "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
" (Heb. 13:8)
ive covered my head sense ive read it in scripture and its helped me so much praise God
Loved this teaching! My testimony is similar and I felt convicted to do it even though I didn't understand why and no one else was. I didn't know if I'd do it forever or just for a time, but I noticed I was much more aware of my behavior, how I treated others, how I interacted with my then husband, and I also began to desire dressing more modestly. I think it's interesting what John Calvin had to say (although I don't agree with much of his theology) about anything becoming permissible, which has been the truth, and I experienced the opposite putting one on my head. The history is hard to get around when you realize that women have always covered their head, sometimes all the time and sometimes just in church, but that the feminist liberation movement changed that and much much more.
i recently started doing it (4 days ago) and i’ve been soooo aware of my attitude, and my character as a women of God , thank you for sharing your testimony because i felt convicted to do so without fully understanding it all but i love what he said “ you don’t have to understand it to obey”
John Calvin has a lot to offer.
Do you ladies cover just in worship services?
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I have been brought to realise that it is important to cover my head. On and off through my life I played for head covering. And about 6 months ago it was impressed upon me that I should wear head covering by the Holy Spirit. And I feel blessed. 😊
ALMIGHTY bless you all for being honest and sharing this, I went through a similar experience, the church I attend doesn't practice this and the worship music leader has long curly very distracting hair. I started covering mine even though everyone looks at me weird. I don't know what to do because I want to continue, the Holy Spirit is leading me to keep covering yet I feel super judged. Thank you!
Do it anyway. If you feel convicted to do it. Do it. You can not stand before God and so and so made you disobey. I say that to myself when i need to stand strong.
I became a member of the Orthodox Church in America 10 years ago. Some women veil, most don’t, which I recognize now, is deferring to culture. I have sons & grandsons, & I am most concerned about the ‘feminization of America’. Your presentation has helped me. I will be praying that our Bishops get on board.
…. and I will begin to veil! Thank you!🙏🏻
I started covering my hair full time about 7 years ago and never looked back! I feel closer to the Lord and honestly I find my scarves quite beautiful as well! ❤🙏❤
You pic shows so much "ME!" and not humility.
Thanks for sharing brother! Very insightful. It is amazing how fast history can be forgotten(or hidden).
“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy...........” Exodus 20:8 “It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever.........” Exodus 31:17 “ Moreover also I gave them my Sabbaths to be a sign between me and them......” Ezekiel 20:12 “ And hallow my Sabbaths, and they shall be a sign between me and you........” in the new haven and earth will still keep the seventh day holy let’s read: “And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the Lord”. Isaiah 66:23. The Sabbath seventh day is from the beginning of creation it was not jews there then it only Adam and Eve! Genesis 2:1-3. May God bless you all!
I wear a head covering permanently on my head as our church encourages us to pray and prophesy over people outside of Church
Do u put it when you are side too?? Every where u go or just when u pray.
@@Samira-kj6etI wear a head covering all of the time. I want to be in constant dialogue with my Father in heaven not just at special times and you never know when Father may ask me to pray for someone at the bus stop, on the train, in the supermarket aisle. Etc
Thanks for sharing brother
What a great message! I appreciate all the research put into this! Blessings 😇
Praise the Lord! 💕🙌🏼
When I go visit some of my relatives in the suburbs of Los Angeles/Orange County, CA (of all places!) there are a group of Churches in the area where ALL the women and girls wear these beautiful unique lace head coverings/veils that appear to wrap about the neck and sit upon the shoulders and hang against the back to Church. I've never seen the like.
The women's clothing covers them from neck to toe, you literally can only see the front of their hair, faces and hands. Long sleeved untucked loose blouses, long voluminous floor length skirts, which are very unique and beautifully done actually! And their costumes/gowns look hand-made, not store bought.
Men wear short hair with full beards and a tunic type shirt that has a high collar and long sleeves and it's tied with something at the waist and it even covers the whole of the crotch & buttocks area of their slacks ending right below their inseam, about 6-ish inches below the waist. Extremely modest and likely homemade.
Little girls wear those classic old-fashioned nostalgic Easter-type fluffy dresses, with puff sleeves ending at the elbow, knee/tea length with tights, with a smaller lace triangle type veil, but it covers all their hair, except for the bit in front. These dresses appear store bought but who knows, maybe the Mother's are amazing seamstresses.
Boys wear miniature shirts like their Father's and slacks.
They seem a super wholesome and very attractive, happy looking ppl-- without being gaudy/flashy and their faces always seem to be shining with joy, if you happen to catch sight of them outside of the Churches. The kids playing and adults laughing and conversing.
Men look very manly and women look very feminine. And there are many of them.
There are a couple Churches in the actual neighborhood (which I pester to drive past!) of one of my relatives and apparently a few more scattered not too far away.
And most shocking of all, the young women actually wear appropriate Church dresses! With modest sleeves and in longer tea lengths with the lace head coverings/veils that wrap about the neck. No décolletage showing whatsoever, but they still look pretty, stylish and young, and not frumpy at all!
One young family lives on the same street as one of my cousin and he reports that they are Christian, but there are no crosses or signage on their plainly built Churches and apparently they are a Pacifist community, as well. And friendly, quiet and cause no problems.
I see them all happily driving to their Churches if we're on the road during a certain time on Sunday mornings. You CANNOT miss them!
I'm extremely intrigued by them, so I always peek from the window and look across the way when it's Church-time, to get a fascinating glimpse of everyone dressed Victorian-Era, departing. And the couple always matches-- with the husband's tunic-shirt being the same colour as his wife's ensemble.
Also, when they wear all white, the women can literally be mistaken for a bride
Holy spirit leads and opens the eyes to scripture. Without the spirit we are blind
Verses 5 through 7, as well as verse 13, of 1 Corinthians 11 use a form of the Greek word for "veiled", κατακαλύπτω katakalupto; this is contrasted with the Greek word περιβόλαιον peribolaion, which is mentioned in verse 15 of the same chapter, in reference to "something cast around" as with the "hair of a woman … like a mantle cast around". These separate Greek words indicate that there are thus two headcoverings that Paul states are compulsory for Christian women to wear, a cloth veil and her natural hair.
I found that when I covered my head and if I was praying, I felt much closer to God, I asked God if it was okay, and I never felt judged before him. I felt much closer, and this message just confirmed the need for me to cover my head 24/7. I love God and his presence.
Lovely presentation! Thankyou!
Thank you! I have recently been convicted to cover my head and this was such a blessing!
Thanks to Jesus.
Excellent!!
Thank you. This is excellent.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for all the work you put in to this topic. I've had on my heart to cover my head everyday but i don't want to come off "religious" or "righteous". It's winter time so no one is noticing I'm covering my head for my faith.
I feel the same way... let our obedience rather be to the lord then to humans or fear. Praise be to God!
In winter you can just wear a hat - maybe in summer too? They are not viewed as "religious".
Thank you for this video!!!
Thank you for this study I have just recently been convicted to cover my head. It started with dressing in a way that was acceptable to God I used to ask God to help me choose what to wear as I had many different types of clothes from before I was a christian. So I did wrestle with GOD through this journey ,and still don’t know how to wear one properly or if I have to wear my head covering while not in church.
Definitely I wear at church and at home while praying GOD BLESS EVERYONE 🙏🏾
You better Teach Brother ! Awesome .
Wonderful brother. Wonderful.
Some have taken issue with the fact that the Greek word used for covering in verse 15 (περιβόλαιον) is a different word than the form of the word used for veiling/covering in verses 5-7 and 13 (κατακαλύπτω), the latter of which means "to cover wholly" or "to veil". Moderator of the General Assembly of the Free Church of Scotland, John W. Keddie, contended that if simply any hair were the covering Paul was talking about, then verse 6 would read "For if the women have no hair on her head, let her also be shorn", rendering the passage to be nonsensical.
We must remember many rules in scripture is to teach us to love our neighbors in this rule we see that we are to act and appear in ways that do not bring temptation to others just as we don't want people doing things around us that might tempt us to stray from Christ's path
I know this is an older video so I’m sure not many will come back to look at comments. I’m married to a nonbeliever. I am saved and decided to start covering my head. I could really use prayer for my husband, philip, to accept Jesus into his heart. I desperately want to be equally yoked. I desperately want to live a godly life. My husband is in the military so we move all over a lot. Right now we are in North Dakota. I’ve been looking for a church to attend but so many are either all women or don’t seem like they have zeal for Christ. I would love to visit your church in person some day. Thank you for your prayers.
@Samantha Thanks for your comment! I sent your prayer request to our church members. God bless you and stay faithful! -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel thank you so very much!!! That means everything to me to have someone else pray for him.
Praying for you. I have similar convictions but my husband a nonbeliever doesn’t want me to cover.
I know this was months ago but I hope you’ve found some peace. I was in your shoes years ago, I committed to God but my husband (Phillip as well) didn’t. He was a drug addict and unbeliever. God worked miracles and my husband gave his heart to God and is 6 years sober. It was not an easy journey. I wanted to encourage you to read 1 Corinthians 7:12-17. Especially verse 14. I hope you’re doing well.
@@AvaBell thank you so much! I will read that tonight.
Thank you so much it is so helpful ❤
One of the things that made me identify myself with the Brethren is veiled Sisters.
It definitely is an important thing. Maybe not a alvation issue, but to Yahweh it will always matter
Good presentation thank you. The subject of head covering and ladies leading men in public prayer have often gone hand in hand. Have you also studied this part of Paul’s teaching and how universally this is no longer acceptable in churches
AMEN! :)
I was called in COVID19 to cover my head. I am reformed, but hardly a theologian. What I learned is that God does things to demonstrate His glory to the angels. That's why Job suffered. We are told to heed the angels when covering our heads. They are to witness the headship on Earth that is mirrored in Heaven. It was never about culture or fashion.
I cover my head because my husband is my Head, and Christ is his Head.
If Christ is your husband's head, and your husband is your head, then do you also worship your husband as he worships Christ?
@@debrawehrly6900 No. We are never to worship man. Even a good one.
@@vintageragamuffin4570 it kind of seems that way
@@debrawehrly6900 I don't think so. There is nothing in my statement that lends to worshiping a human. I suspect that you find the concept offensive. That's fine. But I reject your efforts to make me responsible for your feelings. To a Biblical Christian, everything must submit to God. If we are married, because God intends for married Believers to model the sacrificial relationship of Christ and His Church, God has clearly said that the woman should "submit" to the authority of her husband. That is a form of respect and honor. However, she is not to disobey God in her obedience. Therefore, God is the ultimate authority no matter how you view it.
I never said that wad responding to what you wrote in your original statement, but to the video in general and the overarching theme.
PRAISE THE LORD! :)
Interesting 🤔
When is the next session going to be posted on CZcams please?
I’m giving it Sunday. It maybe a few weeks before it is posted.
Thank you for this presentation, it was really clear and it confirmed my own understanding of this text. It’s all new to me so I’m limited in my knowledge and practices. It was only last year that I started to read the Bible and was recently baptized. I was wondering about the style of head coverings. Is there a guidance to how it should be practiced outwardly? Should it be covering the long hair or all the hair? Is there a more “correct way” is what I would like to know. Thank you 🙏
@Anna God bless you in seeking to follow him! As far as I know, there aren't specific styles that are correct, although maybe Daniel can address that question in more depth sometime. There's significant variation in how Christian women follow this practice. However, my own opinion is that, if a covering is small enough that it doesn't cover a significant amount of the hair, it's hard to see how one could honestly call it a "covering." I don't think something needs to be completely covered in order to be said to be covered, but a significant amount of it should be. But that's my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. To see the variation in how Anabaptists tend to practice the head covering today, you could look at the Shenandoah Christian Music Camp channel's videos. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Thank you so much for your answer Lynn. Living in Sweden, head coverings is not something you really see among the Christian women, so I don’t have that community around me to learn these things from. I didn’t know about Anabaptists until a few weeks ago. It filled me with joy when I started listening to online sermons and other videos from your channel and other Anabaptists. More pieces of the puzzle fell into place it felt like. Thanks once again, I will definitely check out your recommended channel as soon as I can! God bless ❤️
@Anna I'm so glad we've been a help in your Christian journey. God bless! -Lynn
@disciple of CHRIST Thank you for taking of your time to answer in such detail, it’s a true blessing ❤️
Satan is a seven headed dragon, thus divided. The Lamb has one head, seven eyes, thus United and insightful.
Am enjoying your teaching. Could you please tell me what kind of church you found that you felt was so good?
@A Carpenter's Daughter Glad you were blessed! We are at an Anabaptist church. -Lynn
Do you have a link for the American Dress books your reference?
I am a Jew but I endorse 99% of this video.
Great. The Bible stands true forever. Please read Isaiah ch. 53 in the Jewish Bible and ask yourself Whom it is in reference of: Jesus, He loves us. ❤
I think I might have been overlooked for a job because of my head covering although I looked very elegant according to a lot of people who have met me
This talk was thorough and well researched. Thank you for including a reference to the Catholic Church. You should know that a headcovering in church was explicitly required until 1983, but many people had fallen into 20th century cultural rebellion and quit doing it earlier. However, the practice of covering in church is returning, and if you go to conservative parishes or those where they still retain the historic worship (not the "reformed" version promulgated in 1969), you will see many, maybe most girls and women in veils. Thank you for reviving discussion on this teaching, and I agree with you that it is an aspect of right hierarchy in marriage and society.
One last note: the rise in divorce and the loss of the headcovering surely are related, and while many Catholics are disobedient on divorce, the Church has always taught, since apostolic times, the same thing you guys are teaching today.
I found it interesting that respect for marriage itself had gone downhill and a rising divorce rate when the veils were abandoned. Amazing how God knows what keeps order even something as simple as an obedience to head covering and the lack thereof as a decline in values. Incredible to see that subtle link
Where did you find the John Calvin quote? I have looked and looked but can’t find it anywhere. Thanks
Watching this as a Calvinist… throughly offended😂
Glad you can laugh. Sorry about that I was not thinking about that when I said what I said.
Thanks for this presentation. Why do so many believe a woman should always have her head covered, or have her head covered during the whole church service when Paul seems to be speaking about when she prays or prophesies?
@joshjay6765 Great question. The answer is that we want women to be ready to pray or prophesy at any time. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Just curious. The amish have their women cover all the time for this reason, but the men always wear hats in the field. Because you want women to always be ready, wouldn't you also recommend men to never wear hats? Doesn't seem consistent.
@@izabelak2800 you should ask the amish. We cannot defend a religion we do not follow.
@@AliciaGuitar Take the Amish component out.
If you want women to always be ready to pray, shouldn't the men also keep their head perpetually uncovered to be ready to pray (no hats)?
When women pray or prophesy, they should wear a head covering. This practice aligns with the instruction in 1 Thessalonians 5:17, emphasizing the significance of continuous prayer. Thus, the head covering should not be removed, as it symbolizes an ongoing connection with God.
Judge amongst yourselves... if there is any contention, We have no custom nor do the churches ..
there's some audio problems in the vid, like some parts are being too loud and not balanced especially at the audience part (but great vid yeah)
yeah the audience is not mic'd sorry about that
It’s okay, just wanted to comment that for other people
I think the point St. Paul was trying to make about long hair is: you women love your long hair, that’s because it’s like a covering, therefore why object to a covering? You wouldn’t cut off your long hair. So keep the covering which is the only custom we know
After reading my Bible, I came to the conclusion that a woman with short hair or head shaved should cover her head as it is a dishonor to God. By having long hair, women already has a covering, glorify God, and honor Him. Am I wrong? I would like to hear your perspective.
@Family Unity Thanks for the comment! I would suggest two things. One is that Paul says "For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered." (v6 NKJV)
So it seems that he sees almost the opposite as true--he seems to be saying, "If you won't cover your head, that's shameful enough that you might as well cut your hair off as well. But since you Corinthians recognize that a shaved head is shameful, you should also wear a covering because to pray and prophesy when uncovered is shameful."
Second, the word Paul uses for "covering" when he says "her hair is given to her for a covering" is a different word than is used elsewhere in the passage. So it doesn't seem that he's equating long hair with the covering he was talking about before.
God bless.
-Lynn
Thank you for this. I'm Catholic and attend the Latin Mass where women still veil. But with similar research I too decided to head cover full time as it just seems to be clear in both scripture and tradition. I too couldn't help but love that Calvin quote 😊
Hello Hannah! I am looking to start covering daily. Any recommendations of styles?
@Lisa Culbertson hi Lisa that's great! There's so many great videos on Christian head covering styles on CZcams. I'm favouring large folded square scarves at the moment ala folk peasant woman : ) are you Catholic too?
@Hannah Da Via Nice! I've thought about the same. I was a born protestant and still am but Catholicism brought my heart back to Jesus. I'd say I have Catholic leanings. I'm contemplating conversion, though I'd like my husband to join me.
@@lisaculbertson9909 Wow that is beautiful that Catholicism brought your heart back to Jesus! How? I was a late convert growing up with no faith but went to a Catholic school. After conversion to Catholicism I ran off to a Pentecostal Church but came back on my knees to Christ in the Catholic Eucharist (which so often is found to be Jesus' heart in Eucharistic miracles!). I understand re your husband. if he is a good Christian I can understand wanting to follow his lead. Mine was not Christian and for years I prayed and thought conversion would never happen until I entrusted him to Our Lady of Fatima. Mary only wants to bring everyone to Christ. All the very best for your covering journey (and Catholic). It is not always easy and watching others testimonies is so strengthening. In both cases! May God bless and keep you ❤🙏
Same here. Traditional mass and veil. I go to an SSPX chapel and they are very modest and conservative and most women do not wear pants-only skirts and dresses. They wear athletic skirts with built in leggings or shorts for active wear and very, very covered beachwear. But I can’t for the life of me figure out why we don’t headcover outside of mass. My guess is that prior to Vatican II, most women were wearing hats of some sort when they went out. So it really didn’t come up. I suppose now there is so much upside down in both the general culture and the Church, that maybe this is just something that has gotten missed. I go back and forth, but I always have a very safe feeling when my head is covered. It changes my demeanor too-as it reminds me of being in mass. I unfortunately have to work, and I’m a paralegal so I try to be “professional” while being modest and feminine and have been trying to figure out how to work that in. I found some nice tie on ones that just look like very wide headbands. I’m the only really religious person in my office, but my employer takes religious allowances very seriously. I am even allowed to take all days of holy obligation off. I doubt they would even say anything to me but if they did, they would be understanding. Even though I am of a different faith, I have been thankful for videos like these.
Worship is for the glory of God, Glory of man should be covered. It also says in the same few verses men should uncover their heads. Ladies you would be offended if a man wore his hat in church or while praying. We have rules too.
❤️🙏🙌 Amen so true
2 Corinthians 10:7
“Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.”
@R Toguidver We're not here to judge. We're just seeking to obey God, so that when we stand before him, we can be justified rather than condemned. We want the same for you. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel 1 Corinthians 6:2
“Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?”
1 John 4:1
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
@@rtoguidver3651 amen there is nothing bad in these verses one must check to see whether one is following Bible or a religion created years ago by some man.
@@JohnYoder-vi1gj …
Then you should know the difference ???…
John 3:6,7
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”..
“Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”…
1 Corinthians 6:2 “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?”
…
A head covering can’t save you, Jesus had long hair because he was a Nazarene and we know Jesus didn't sin !
1 Corinthians 11:14
“Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?”
@@rtoguidver3651 Yes I do thanks. You seem to be upset about something. Acknowledging scripture is a good thing you know. Did the words "a religion created by man" hit a nerve if so you should read 1 Corinthians 1:10-13.
Wow, we are looking for a church like this! What denomination are you?
@Susan A We're Anabaptist. God bless you on your journey! -Lynn
What is anabaptist?
@Gretta Roberts Great question! anabaptistfaith.org/who-are-the-anabaptists/
What if the wife wants to but the husband is a nominal christian and does NOT want her to at all? Like he would divorce her because he thinks it is crazy.
@Natalie A That's a very tough question, and hard to answer. Perhaps she could at least wear it privately when she prays, and at any other opportunities she can find, but she could leave it off when she is with her husband. Submission to God is most important, but submission in marriage is also very important. But that's only a suggestion. I would definitely recommend a lot of prayer in working through this issue. Sorry I don't have any better advice.
I hope this helps,
-Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel thank you very much for the response and sound advice.
Blessings! 🙏
@@SoundFaithChannel I agree.
@@natalieamberger2432 Hi Natalie! I don't know your conviction on head covering but I have been covering now since the beginning of the year but this was laid on me about two years ago. I talked to my husband who was a believer but he scoffed at me when I told him about my conviction and said "God is not telling you to cover." I let the subject go so we wouldn't have a fight in our marriage about this, we were both still learning the Word. Then after alot of praying and scripture study for the both of us I told my husband this past Winter that I needed to cover. He actually had a change of heart and embraced the idea. I cover full time now and he loves to see me that way. He finds it beautiful. I pray that the Lord opens your husbands heart to follow Him and be in obedience to His Word. (If in fact the question was about you and and your husband)😁
@@Katy_living_simply hehe it was! Thank you for your testimony it is very encouraging! My husband wld probably leave me because I have already changed SO much from who I was when I truly came to the faith almost 6 yrs ago and went through much persecution for it. 😔 But he slowly accepted much of it. I need to pray about this again. Thank you again! ❤️🙏
I agree with everything you said. Also we shall keep the ten commandments of God including the seventh day Sabbath the fourth commandmen “Remember to keep the Sabbath holy.........’ Exodus 20:8-11 .Ezekiel 20:20,12 Isaiah 58:13:14 the Sabbath is the seal of God in revelation 7 . In Daniel 7:25 God told us the little horn who is the papacy will try to change God’s Law. Exodus 31:16 the seal of God.
You seem to be ignorant of the actual history of the change from sabbath observance to Sunday observance. The following sets out the broad history, beginning with what Jesus and the apostles understood and tracks the changes that occurred centuries before there was a papacy.
First, some context. The Jewish day went from sunset to sunset, not sunrise to sunrise or midnight to midnight. Hence, the first day of the week began at sunset on Saturday.
Looking to the future, Jesus told his disciples to pray that when the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, their flight not be on a sabbath (Matthew 24:15-20). Jesus clearly anticipated sabbath observance continuing until the end times.
In Acts 20:7, the breaking of bread refers to the evening meal after the sabbath was over. Acts 20:11 confirms that Paul departed at daybreak the next day. Taken together, the clear implication is that Paul's intention was to depart on Sunday morning.
When writing to gentile Christians in 48AD, the Council at Jerusalem noted: “from early generations Moses has had in every city those who preach him, for he is read every sabbath in the synagogues” (Acts 15:21), indicating the letter was being sent to sabbath-observing congregations.
The Apostle Paul - the apostle to the gentiles - regularly observed the sabbath (Acts 13:14 & 42-44; 16:13; 17:1-2; 18:4-11). After at least 15 years’ Christian ministry, Paul declared: “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended at all” (Acts 25:8), meaning he still kept the sabbath.
The offering referred to in 1 Corinthians 16:2-3 was not gathered during a worship service. Indeed, the text strongly implies that what was set aside was to be stored at home - not brought to the worship service for collection. For Jews, taking up collections at a sabbath service was (and still is) offensive.
Although Romans 14:5, Galatians 4:9-10 and Colossians 2:16-17 are often used to claim sabbath observance has been abolished, it is far from clear that the sabbath-observing Paul was referring to the weekly sabbath in any of those passages.
In Revelation 1:10, the reference to the Lord’s day does not mean Sunday. Once again it at most means after the sabbath was over. It may also be just another way of saying 'the day of the Lord'. The ISV translates it that way.
It seems pretty clear, therefore, that throughout the NT, sabbath observance was practised and was expected to continue as a permanent observance.
Even so, the earliest reference to Sunday worship comes from Ignatius in 110AD who wrote of Jewish converts: “no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day” ( _Letter to the Magnesians_ 9).
Similarly, the _Epistle of Barnabas_ (c.120) says: “Your present sabbaths are not acceptable to Me… we keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead”.
Many others also wrote of Christian worship on Sundays well before the 4th century; and of other Christians who continued to worship on Saturdays.
Although Constantine made Sunday the official Roman day of rest, doing so merely reflected what was by then a widespread, centuries-old, majority Christian preference for worshiping on Sundays. And there was still no such thing as a Roman Catholic Church. The _whole_ church was 'catholic' in the sense of being universal.
What later became the Roman Catholic Church and the various Orthodox churches were all the one church and all ratified the change from sabbath to Sunday worship.
Council of Leodicea
Canon 29. Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
[ The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, 1951 printing, page 50. ]
And this:
"You will tell men that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath, but that the Christian Sabbath has been changed to Sunday. Changed! but by whom? Who has authority to change an express commandment of Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, Thou Shalt keep holy the seventh day, who shall dare say, Nay, thou mayest work and do all manner of worldly business on the seventh day; but thou shalt keep holy the first day in its stead. This is a most important question which I know not how you can answer.
"You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and the Bible only; and yet in so important a matter as the observance of one day in seven as a holy day, you go against the plain letter of the Bible, and put another day in the place of the day which the Bible has commanded. The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the ten commandments; you believe that the other nine are still binding: who gave you authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own principles, if you really follow the Bible and the Bible only, you ought to be able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth commandment is expressly altered." [ Library of Christian Doctrine. Why Don't You Keep Holy the Sabbath Day? page 5. ]
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“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” - Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
Question. - How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
“Answer. - By the very act of changing Sabbath into Sunday which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church. “Question. - How prove you that?
“Answer. - Because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the Church’s power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin: and by not keeping the rest by her commanded, they again deny, in fact, the same power.” - An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine, composed by Henry Tuberville, p. 58.
My head covering is a reminder that God is in charge. He's got me covered!
I'm not sure about this issue yet, but I'm bothered by how intolerant Christians can be about this kind of thing. If that is your conviction about a non-salvation issue, I don't know why people criticize you about it.
Can't speak for all but in some places it is regarded as an essential doctrine even if it is regarded as a non-salvation issue.
In the scriptures about the women covering her head, what exactly is "because of the angels" or "for the sake of the angels" referring to or referencing?
@NK Great question. As far as I know, no one is quite sure what Paul meant. Some have thought it means protection from evil spirits, and others have thought it's a good example to the angels. Sorry I can't be more helpful. -Lynn
I've heard a good explanation once by Dr Michael Heiser. But I can't remember how it was said. I believe he was referring to angels as in the Fallen Watchers who mated with the daughters of men as mentioned in Genesis 6 conspiracy. But don't worry, those angels are locked up until the day of Judgement. But the spirits of their offsprings are the ones you gotta to watch out for. They seek revenge against the women because they cannot obtain life to come. Off course, demons are the departed spirits of the giants of old.
i believe it has to do with the idea that angels are in the assembly as well as the holy spirit. i think it's somewhere in the bible but i am not sure of the scripture reference. it's a public statement of a woman's obediance to God.
It could also be a reference to the fact that the fallen angels did not take their place in the hierarchy of heaven and rebelled with Satan. Women are to be good examples to the angels and take their position in the world and accept their role.
This seems to be what is said in the Bible concerning angels and women: Gen 6:2 "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose."
This causes me to wonder if hair is part of what they found beautiful about women?...,
And should women then cover their hair so as to avoid tempting/being a temptation to angels, and also to other males?
And should should women cover just some of their hair, like in the thumbnail of this video, or all of their hair?
When considering what it means to be a good example to the angels, does it mean that once we are aware of what seemed to influence their fall, women should seek to avoid being a temptation to them, in such ways as covering beauty is a good example, not just to the angels but also to mankind?
Is Sound Faith Jehovah Witness? Thank you.
@Vicki Carson No, we are Anabaptist. Thanks for asking. -Lynn
What anabaptist denomination are you a part of? Thank you.
@Paula Norris We're not affiliated with a denomination, but we have a Mennonite history. -Lynn
havent yet watched the full video yet, but are you searching for a church that already exists? the one ancient and true church? i mean head coverings are just a given in orthodoxy.
@Estinfase kristos tube Thank you for your reply. I do know some Eastern Orthodox people who wear head coverings to church, but not all do here in the West. Many, so far as I know, don't wear them at all.
Daniel did find a church that practiced the head covering. It is an Anabaptist church. -Lynn
This topic has been a difficult one for me to understand however I have been feeling convicted to cover my hair (yet to do it because it’s a hard thing to accept the “submission” side of it) but a Thought just popped in my head as I’m watching this video and I haven’t even finished watching it because I want to get it out before I forget…. I think why women should wear the Headcovering is not necessarily to be submissive but because hair is beauty and very tempting for lust in men and vanity in women and because this we should cover it so not to tempt anyone with sinful thoughts and actions and our hair is to be only for our husband and honoring him by only allowing him to look upon it.
@878 4436 Do we judge what Paul says by our current cultural ideas or by the context he is writing in?
@Salty Shield Maiden Good thoughts. God bless you in your journey.
-Lynn
@878 4436 There's no need to repost FA's essay. She has already posted it multiple places, and I've replied to it already.
Note that the Old Testament priests weren't Christians. And that the woman who wiped Jesus' feet could easily have taken off her head covering to do so. If we read about someone washing her hair, does that mean that she never wears a head covering?
-Lynn
@878 4436 Of course they are to the same God. But the Old Testament is different from the New. Or do you believe we should still wear blue ribbons on our robes and refrain from pork?
I don't think we've ever said that a woman must wear a head covering literally all the time, so I don't see why it's a problem if there are multiple contexts in which a woman might as well not wear one. -Lynn
You are never responsible for the thoughts or the actions of any man. My husband has said it several times that a man can lust seeing very little flesh or even if a woman is completely covered up. Hair is no more a temptation than any other body part.
الحجاب في المسيحية الذي تنازلت عنه الكنيسة ارضاء للعلمانية و الحركة النسوية و شوشو طبعاً معهم.
Can I talk to someone about some questions I have? I have been wearing head coverings but I have related questions I would like to ask.
@kattipierceall You're very welcome to reach out through our website contact form at the bottom of this page: chambersburgcf.org/ -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Thank you.
Do you think a women has to be drawn by the spirit of God to the truth of it otherwise is dead works….
@Carly Dynna The Spirit draws us by calling us through Scriptural commands. So the Spirit has already called all women--it's not dead works. -Lynn
If a woman is to cover her head, and the man is her head, shouldn't his head be covered?
@godswarriors7543 1 Cor 11 says that men shouldn't cover their heads when praying. I think Paul is using "head" to mean two different things. Physical head and spiritual head. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel And in Deuteronomy 6:8-9, we are told that all the children of Israel, both man and woman, should have the Ten Commandments between their eyes. Memorization doesn't work, as any head injury can take those away.
Why would you need to find a church that believes in head coverings?
We needed to find a church that takes Jesus and his apostles seriously in all matters. We do not want to be the goats in the end. We also want our children to grow up in churches where no one is divorced and remarried. Where people loved their enemies. And so much more if you want to know more watch seek first his kingdom message.
@@IgnatiusEmanuel ......
Also avoid Churches that allow and condone Marriages with Unbelievers.....
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Because so many corrupted and failing Churches no longer adhere to this righteous teaching for women.
I would probably imagine that since this sect places such a high importance of their interpretation that they would want others to believe as they do.
@serominplaylists No one should. It obviously wasn't an issue otherwise we would have read something very succinctly in the Bible. Only sects or other branches of Christianity care about this, because of their interpretations,
Excuse me, when is part two coming?
I have recorded it. I will see if I can put it up early. There are many that were recorded before it.
@@SoundFaithChannel Okay, thanks, don't worry! I was just curious.
God told us the little horn the Antichrist in Daniel 7:25 will try to change times and Laws. Jesus said in Matthew 5:18-18 that he not came to change the Law but to fulfill. In revelation 22:14 is telling us who will go to new Jerusalem who comes down from heaven Revelation 21, Isaiah 65 revelation 12:17 and revelation 14:12 give us the characteristics of God’s really church the ones who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Amin!
I never grew up with anyone wearing headcoverings. I already wear bandanas, so this won't be a stretch. I think I want to do this!
Since it's in the Bible, women ought to, sisters. God bless you, Sister.
Why not also follow the dietary commands of God? After reading leviticus and deuteronomy, wouldn't one come out saying they should not eat pork nor shellfish just as others came away saying women should wear a headcovering?
The dietary laws of the OT are undoubtedly healthy. However, they were specifically abolished in the NT. The head covering principle is reiterated in the NT, which means it is something that has carried over.
@@margaretqueenofscots9450 I don't think you can say they were specifically abolished in the NT. And the headcovering is never commanded in the OT.
The head covering is a New covenant commandment. The dietary laws were part of the Old wineskin
@@margaretqueenofscots9450 On the contrary, it had nothing to do with health, friend. I highly recommend reading on the Jewish Meats by Novation.
You must sift through a timeless moral law and what was given to the jews for their hard hearts. This isn't to be a coward and hide from the law and hate the law. Every Christian should read it because there is treasure in even the old laws, we pull out "treasures from our house both new and old". This might be difficult to comprehend right now but the answer to your question is found in the reason that the Jews had passover with unleavened bread and Christians have communion with leavened bread. Paul reminds us that the law is spiritual. And the dietary laws aren't the exception, they're the shining example.
Notice that the men before Moses who are called righteous do not observe dietary laws. We are like them in this respect. The dietary law was a reaction and given to the Jews to teach them a lesson about themselves and the world. Modesty is a "timeless" virtue.
I'm sure I sound like just another person screaming from a crowd of a million other different voices though. Everyone thinks they're right these days. However, I don't think I'm right, I think the early Christians were right. And I've dedicated my time to reading them in full. So I don't just shout my opinion like others, but provide the dignified perspective of the first Christians.
I don’t understand how people like him study the early churches (which we still have today and will be here until the end of times) but decides to have/open their own churches. This is the contrary of obedience, I see as pretty much prideful to have create a church of their own.
So much is missing, one can’t have a real church unless it is one of the early churches. ☦️
What are you referring to? Could you give me more information. The body that I belong to did not start from me. I am not even an ordained leader of my church. I am just someone who wants to follow the truth.
SaúdeVC thaismelo These articles might help you understand our perspective better:
anabaptistfaith.org/what-is-the-church-is-there-one-true-church/
anabaptistfaith.org/biblical-nonresistance/
The Anabaptists wouldn't have left the Roman Catholic Church if we had had a choice. Unfortunately, at that time, we weren't encouraged to obey God there. We had to obey God rather than men.
-Lynn
Romans 2:29
“But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
@R Toguidver We're not here to judge. We're just seeking to obey God, so that when we stand before him, we can be justified rather than condemned. We want the same for you. -Lynn
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A head covering can’t save you, Jesus had long hair because he was a Nazarene and we know Jesus didn't sin !
1 Corinthians 11:14
“Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?”
@R Toguidver I think you're mixing Nazarite with Nazarene. Jesus was from the city of Nazareth, a Nazarene. Jesus never took the Nazarite vow that I know of. -Lynn
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The practice of a nazirite vow is part of the ambiguity of the Greek term "Nazarene" that appears in the New Testament; the sacrifice of a lamb and the offering of bread does suggest a relationship with Christian symbolism (then again, these are the two most frequent offerings prescribed in Leviticus, so no definitive conclusions can be drawn). While a saying in Matthew 11:18-19 and Luke 7:33-35 attributed to Jesus makes it doubtful that he, reported to be "a winebibber", was a nazirite during his ministry, the verse ends with the curious statement, "But wisdom is justified of all her children". The advocation of the ritual consumption of wine as part of the Passover, the tevilah in Mark 14:22-25 indicated he kept this aspect of the nazirite vow when Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God." The ritual with which Jesus commenced his ministry (recorded via Greek as "baptism") and his vow in Mark 14:25 and Luke 22:15-18 at the end of his ministry, do respectively reflect the final and initial steps (purification by immersion in water and abstaining from wine) inherent in a Nazarite vow. These passages may indicate that Jesus intended to identify himself as a nazirite ("not drinking the fruit of vine") before his crucifixion.
Luke the Evangelist clearly was aware that wine was forbidden in this practice, for the angel (Luke 1:13-15) that announces the birth of John the Baptist foretells that "he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb", in other words, a nazirite from birth, the implication being that John had taken a lifelong nazirite vow.…
A hair covering won’t save you unless you follow all of the Law, which no one but Jesus was ever able to do..
@R Toguidver I think the Scripture verses you offered are good ones. As they show, even though there are similarities with Jesus' live and that of Nazarites, he wasn't a Nazarite because he drank wine.
No one is arguing that coverings will save us. We simply believe that we should obey Jesus' and the apostles' commands. We're saved by Jesus' death and resurrection. -Lynn
Respectfully (and sincerely), I truly believe you are slightly off on this to a degree. In the first place, I've seen anabaptist families enforce this on girls under the age of 10. Doing this is missing the point of the command. The priority is modesty, we start to veil after puberty. In the second place, the early Christian writers defined what Paul meant in reference to a veil; that the veil covers the face of the woman wearing it. Most of this is in Tertullian's work on the Veiling of Virgins, but you can find it elsewhere in the early writings.
If you reply and ask for quotes on this stuff I'd be happy to go back and find them for you, but I'm sure if you asked Mr. Bercot he would know what I'm talking about.
1. Paul did not mention modesty in 1 Cor 11. So how can you say "first of all it is about modesty?"
Paul said it was about authority εξουσια on the head because of the angels.
2. Tertullian did not mention veiling the face but Clement of Alexandria speaking of Arab women described their covering the face.
Brother, I agree that the veil begins with puberty, but what has this to do with modesty? I have little idea of what you are saying with this comment
@@jesusstudentbrett Please, hear me out, I'm sure you will understand; firstly, Paul actually does touch on modesty there in chapter 11, when he says, "because of the angels".
In one quote I can both prove the interpretation and the fact that Tertullian does discuss modesty and the covering of the face, "So perilous a face, then, ought to be shaded, which has cast stumbling-stones even so far as heaven: that, when standing in the presence of God, at whose bar it stands accused of the driving of the angels from their (native) confines, it may blush before the other angels as well; and may repress that former evil liberty of its head -(a liberty) now to be exhibited not even before human eyes. But even if they were females already contaminated whom those angels had desired, so much the more on account of the angels would it have been the duty of virgins to be veiled, as it would have been the more possible for virgins to have been the cause of the angels' sinning." This is from On the Veiling of Virgins, I highly recommend reading it.
I never denied, and would never deny, that the veil serves as a mark of authority, but we know a single thing can serve two functions.
@@gerhardschneider9910 I don't fault you, I didn't always understand this either. The reason you would veil a woman during/after puberty is to veil what the woman blossoms into. I touched on it in the previous comment, but when Paul says, "because of the angels," he is literally referring to the incident where angels themselves lusted after women and created abominations that nearly destroyed the human race.
It is a very difficult thing for two people to agree from scripture alone and I would hope that by the fact that you watch this channel you would find common ground with me on what the first Christians believed. But even if that doesn't satisfy, I will make a reasonable argument from scripture for this position (that a veil covers the face); when Moses veiled himself after coming down from the mountain, did that veil only cover a portion of the top of his head?
@@nolanl3343 ah ok.
1 cor 11;16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
it was the tradition and custon and culture of those times. nothing else
in 1 pet 3 we read about women coming to the church meetings with plaited hair so women did not cover the hair.
thirdly, the Bible says that everything has to be gounded on at least TWO witnesses. there is only ONE place in the Bible where you read about the head covering and that is also not very clear since we read in the very passage that the hair of women is their covering.
in the new testament we dont follow the traditions of old. we follow Lord Yeshu who set us free from the external things. now the reality is Christ Himself. not the things on the outside
those who wear head coverings rely on the Flesh which is SIN and that is the WRONG REBELLION... thats bondage to sin...
@aikozoe6598
Paul says that they don't have a custom of contending with this truth. But the head covering itself is a "tradition" (v2). As we see in 2 Thes 2:15, a Christian tradition was not simply a culture of the day, but was something handed down from the apostles for all Christians to follow.
It is easy to have braided hair showing out from under a covering; people do it all the time.
Those who wear head coverings are following the commands of those who learned at Jesus's feet and whom he authorized to publish his word to the whole world. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel paul said it is their custom. tradition. we dont follow their traditions but we follow Lord Yeshu Hamashiyah. we dont do the external things now because we live by the Spirit. those who want to please God by the flesh live in sin and death. you push people into sin and death.
the hebrews do not hand us their traditions. nor culture. nor customs. we only follow Lord Yeshu and you manipulate the Scripture. secondly, there is only ONE passage that talks about the head covering and we need at least TWO (2 cor 13;1) to form a doctrine. thirdly, in 1 pet 3 peter says that our adornment should not be braided hair and other external things but what is inside, the heart.
time and time again you push people into the external things. thats is law. that is bondage. that is sin and that is death.
we do not follow any commands of the people who followed Lord Yeshu. we only follow the Lord Yeshu Hamashiyah. and those who followed Yeshu Hamashiyah never told us to cover our heads. you manipulate the Scripture time and time again. verse 15 says that woman's hair is her covering. nothing said about any scarf or anything else. so stop manipulating the Word and stop pushing people into sin and death and flesh. you live by the flesh and such cannot please God.
@aikozoe6598
I'm sorry you feel that we are living by the flesh. Let me explain why that's a misapplication of those passages.
As I pointed out, "tradition" means something that is handed down. If it's handed down from Pharisees, we don't need to obey it. If it's handed down from the apostles, who delivered the truth from Jesus himself, we do need to obey it, as Scripture clearly teaches.
Scripture does not teach that the only time we need to only obey Scripture is when its commands are repeated multiple times. 2 Cor 13:1 teaches nothing of the kind.
Jesus taught that those who follow him will obey the commandments of the apostles (Luke 10:16, John 15:20, 16:13).
The word Paul uses when he says that hair is a covering is a different word in Greek than the word used when he's speaking of the covering that women should wear when praying. So the covering is not the hair.
Those who obey God are pleasing to him (John 15:10, Acts 10:24-35). -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel what i feel does not matter at all. what matters is the truth of the Word of God.
first of all, pharisees are jews and jews are according to the Word of God the synagogue of satan, they are jews which pretend to be hebrews, the chosen nation of God but they are not. jews are edomites.
the Bible in the old testament says nothing, i repeat, NOTHING about covering heads by women. it was priests who covered their heads.
of course we obey God even if He says something once. but we need at least two instances in order to form a doctrine and it is needed for clarification of what God wants to say. otheriwse you can pick any verse you want and make it say whatever you want.
you said that Lord Yeshu said that those who follow Him will obey the commandements of the apostles... and then you give me the verse from luke 10:16 - which says nothing of that kind! so did you make a mistake or lie purposefuly? luke 10;16 says "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me." - so it says that of we dont obey LORD YESHU we despise the Father. not the apostles!!!
then you give another verse which proves you are trying to manipulate the Scripture in john 15;20 we read "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also." so nothing of what you were trying to deceive (this is second instance so in my opinion it is purposeful deception, once you can make a mistake but twice it is an intention!!) - so this verse talks about persecution, nothing about obedience to apostles. you were hoping i will not check the Bible verses, right? wrong!!!
then you provided john 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." - so this is the third attempt on your part to lie deceive and manipulate the Word of God because this verse does not talk about obedience to the apostles but following the Holy Spirit who will guide us into all truth. so not only that those verses did not prove your opinion but secondly, apostle paul never told women to cover their HAIR - he said to cover the HEAD and said that the HAIR is woman's covering. nothing about any additional scarf or anything of this sort. so when you disobey the Word you live in sin and you push women into relying on flesh which is DEATH and SIN. and you ADD to what the Word of God says which is another sin and you manipulate the Bible verses and LIE that they say something which they do not. it is obvious that your deceiving is intentional agenda and you are immune to the Word of God. i bet you are just a jesuit or masonic agent who has an agenda and you will never stop lying because your intention is to push people to live is sin as you and try to please God by the flesh which is what God does not approve. very sad.
@aikozoe6598 I see that this is a subject that you're very passionate about, and I hope I haven't offended you. The important thing is to follow Christ and our conscience, even if we disagree on what that means. If we truly do that, I'm sure God will help whichever one of us who is wrong to find that out and to change.
Let me explain what I meant by those passages I cited. In Luke 10:16, Jesus is speaking to the seventy whom he sent out, saying that "Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me." Later, in John 15:20, he gave the twelve more specifically an even greater mission, and he said that "If they kept my word, they will also keep yours." And he taught the apostles in John 16:13 that "when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth." Therefore, these three verses teach that the apostles had all the truth of Christianity, and anyone who obeys Jesus will obey them. -Lynn
We are man the head of the house, but the problem is the wife is the neck, the moves the head? I'm getting tired
Her hair is her covering. 1 Cor. 11:15
Not so... A different word is used there. Besides, should a man take off his hair instead of his hat, when he prays / prophesies ? ;-)
HI K Henry - It is very simple, but religion complicates the matter. Often used is the idea that if it is hair then how can someone put on or take off their hair if they are to be uncovered when praying or prophesying. I would say that the verse in question is saying the following "Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered (in long hair) dishonors his head. " Praying and prophesying were meant to be examples not that there are only two moments that men were to take something off like a hat. If examples, then they are not saying that something should be taken off or put on. This verse is practically the same in verse 14 where it is a dishonor for a man to have long hair. We can get this understanding of examples when in verse 13 it doesn't add the word prophesying when it refers to women. It is just saying that men ought to have their hair short or uncovered and women their hair long or covered like covered in long hair.
KHenry: Amen
@Bible Chats Thank you for sharing your view. You should know that it goes against the consistent teaching of the apostles and the early church.
- The word katakalypto, which is the word used for "to cover" throughout the passage, does not mean hair. In the verse where Paul says that a woman's hair is a covering, he uses a completely different word, peribolaion. If Paul meant to say that a woman's hair performs the function of katakalypto, then why does he say that it's a peribolaion?
- I am aware of no evidence whatsoever that katakalypto can mean long hair in Greek. Feel free to provide any reputable Greek lexicon that suggests that katakalypto can mean long hair. There is none that I know of. There's a reason why all reputable Bible translations translate it "cover."
- I don't have time to write up an extensive response to your view. Fortunately, a thoughtful Evangelical has done so already. I recommend this video by Mike Winger: czcams.com/video/keXayp7JXf4/video.html I don't agree with quite everything about his view, but he shows clearly what katakalypto means.
- Furthermore, nobody in the history of Christianity interpreted this passage as you do except in modern times. Is your modern interpretation better than the interpretations of all the native speakers of Koine Greek who grew up steeped in the teachings of the apostles, just a few decades or a few hundred years after the apostles taught? In other words, do you know Greek better than a native speaker? Or how can you think your interpretation is a better one?
- If we aren't convinced yet, Paul says that all the churches had the practice/tradition that he was talking about. So we can look at what the early church was doing, to see what Paul was talking about. The early church taught that women should wear head coverings--that was the practice that all the churches were doing: czcams.com/video/oflUWLFXyfI/video.html
-Lynn
A womans covering is her Father then Her Husband, even a brother if her Father is dead and she's not married.
@R Toguidver The word used denotes a cloth covering, not a person. -Lynn
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1 Corinthians 11:15, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. (or Veil)
1 Peter 3
1. Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2. While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4. But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
5. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6. Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
@R Toguidver The Greek word katakalypto, which is used throughout 1 Cor 11, denotes a cloth covering. Feel free to cite any Greek lexicon that agrees with your interpretation. The word in verse 15 which Paul uses of the hair is peribolaion, a totally different word.
I'm not seeing how 1 Peter 3 is saying that a person is a woman's covering.
-Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel .. You don't know because you don't want to know....
1 Corinthians 11:15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
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It doesn’t say Cloth Covering, it says a Spiritual Covering.. Wearing a veil doesn't make you Spiritual...
Mormons wear a veil, does that make them Spiritual ?
@@SoundFaithChannel .... katakaluptó: to cover up Original Word: κατακαλύπτω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: katakaluptó Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ak-al-oop'-to)
I think Christianity and Islam are very similar
Abortion would end if christian women didn't participate in this this sin..