How to SPEED up your MSI Laptop for FREE
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2023
- Most gaming laptops will throttle their CPU. The reason we are most aware of is thermal throttling which we often overcome by undervolting.
There is also power limit throttling in which case the IMON tweak on MSI laptops can help.
In this video I show you have to do both in the advanced bios of an MSI laptop.
The laptop used was the GE77HX with an i7 12800HX and RTX 3070Ti.
I show the effect on performance using Cinebench R23 and Shadow of the tomb raider.
For undervolting, if the CPU and BIOS supports it you can use:
BIOS
XTU (Intel)
Throttlestop (Intel)
Universal x86 tuning utility (AMD APU Tuning Utility- Ryzen ) amdaputuningutility.com/
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Awesome, with I the imon tweak I got 24500in R23 multi on my 12800HX in GE67HX. (a 1500 extra points) New record. Thank you, Keep it coming. _\|/_ Greetings form Amsterdam.
That's awesome, thanks for sharing! Very good score 👏 as fast, if not faster than the i9!
@@OWNORDISOWN I forgot to mention, that now my 3070ti hangs on 150W pretty much constantly. Before, in-game it would be between 130W-150W.
Also, there is 240Hz OLED MSI Stealth 15 A13VF-052 - Intel Core i7 13620H / 2.4 GHz - Win 11 Home - GeForce RTX 4060 - 16 GB RAM - 1 TB SSD NVMe ... with 3 fans and thick cooling🤑
Cheapest 2200 EUR at pcking in Germany.
@@dusanhlavnicka4618 that is awesome 👌
As a msi gaming laptop user, I highly appreciate this video!!
Thanks! I hope it proves useful for you 🙂
great video as alwaysss
Cheers mate 👍
nice!it's been a long time 😊 keep it up stephen💪
Thanks!
Could this be? A tech youtuber, actually doing tech reviews and giving actual technical advice?
Impossible!
Joking aside, great review as always stephen, very hard to find this stuff on other ''techtuber'' channels. And of course, according to some, undervolting is a meme, so you shouldn't bother with it and just let OEM's lock it out of the bios level and intel locking it down even more.
Thanks Eric! Yes, we have to keep undervolting and tweaking in general alive! Thanks for your continued support!
@@OWNORDISOWN No problem. I like to get reminded there's actually good laptop focused channels, who you know, review laptops instead of advertising them. Or being a human benchmark announcer.
Very good and detailed guide, it's so nice to see everything explained, I only have some minor doubts, like when you say maximum TDP of 128 Watt where do you see this value? Also can I change this value into another number? I wanted it to be lower but not as low as the power limit of like for example 45 Watt, which is the most common. Thanks in advance
Thanks. Glad you found it useful. I use HWinfo 64 and it shows the power being used. Yes, you can lower the power limits as long as you unlock the CPU over locking section. The advanced Bios allows it as should XTU.
These optimizations videos really helpful
Glad you like them! I enjoy doing them too as I like to see what extra I can squeeze out of a system. Thanks for watching!
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Hey there Sea Hawk! Good to hear from you, how have you been? I've been spending more time with the family, especially during the summer months when the kids are off school :)
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@seahawk2366 that's great! What type of career are you pursuing? Yes, email me at sburgess@ownordisown.com.
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This is very useful, I was really tired of the fact that my i7 13700h while playing after a few minutes the tdp was reduced to 45w and 3200mhz~ obtaining a mediocre performance (worse than my old desktop ryzen 5600), after much research I found this solution and voila, now I get sustained performance, and I have combined it with TrottleStop, to adjust the multiplier according to my needs and so that it does not go over temperature. This is magnificent.
Thats great news 👍 Glad you found my video useful 😊
What are your throttlestop settings? I’m curious.
Can this undervolt work with the MSI vector gp76 with i7 12700h??
Wow! Hope you do one for Alienware! Just got an m18 with i9-13980HX and only get 21k on cinebench. Love your videos
Thanks! Wow, only 21k? What power is the CPU at? Sounds like it's at like 65w. I got 28400 at 130W. Can you check?
@@OWNORDISOWN It maxes out at ~80 watts even on high performance mode. I don't know if it's a bad chip or bad paste job. Games crash a lot too.
@jacobchristiansen3697 something is limiting it that's for sure. I assume you have done all the updates and it's the same. The TWCC is not set at 85 degrees? That will limit the CPU to that temperature. Does the BIOS allow you to change the power limits? If all fails definitely call their tech support.
I have the same problem. Have also i9 13980HX and have troubles with thermal throttling- Also thinking about bad paste or just not well OEM tunned@@jacobchristiansen3697
Hello there, great guide on the tweaks and it boosted my laptop's performance by a whole bunch.
I am using a MSI Cyborg 15 A12V i5-12450H and RTX-4060 GPU, my laptop limits the power usage on both CPU and GPU to 45W (according to online) and I wanted to test your tweaks. When you were explaining the IMON tweaks, the offset should be set below the CPU watt limit. My power supply states that it can provide 120W maximum to the laptop but not sure if this will affect the settings in the tweaks. If in my case, what value should I set it to according to your guide?
Also, the temperature has noticeably increased, not sure if that is normal or not.
Currently I set P-core offset to -70, IMON slope to 50 and offset to -19999. PL1 to 45000 and PL2 to 50000 (not sure if I did this correctly)
Thank you for noticing.
Thanks for watching my video and I'm glad it made your system faster. If ever you get a crash and it won't boot you can reset the bios by long pressing the power button for at least 30 seconds.
Yes, it is normal that it runs hotter because the laptop is no longer power limit throttling. You have tricked it into thinking that it is under its base 45w so it thinks there is no need to limit the power, but in reality you are using its max power. The undervolt will help but you may want to consider a cooling pad. I'm actually testing one that is very good. Best I have tried.
What was the combined GPU and CPU power before the tweak? I suspect the 120W power brick is still OK, you can always plug it into a kilowatt meter and see how much your system is pulling. Power supplies are 80% efficient so ideally you don't want to pull any more than 96W.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thx for the reply, I will consider using a cooling pad for cooling. For your information, the power combined should be 90Watts with both CPU on limited 45Watts and GPU on limited 45Watts
With underviolting errors in my CPU increased, they are fixed on the fly, but in result system lagging under load.
Should i perform the IMON tweak if i run my laptop at a lower tdp than the one set by default as it gets too hot at 40+ watts.
Thank you for showing the way. After some adjustments I learned from this video, laptop runs 10 degrees cooler now.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching 👍
good t see you back in the saddle
Hey there Brad, thanks! Hope everything is good your end. Thanks for stopping by!
@@OWNORDISOWN Hey, I found the way to crossflash the 130W 3060 with the 140w vbios and access all 140W on a legion 5 pro.
Use the custom settings in the lenovo legion toolkit. It may also help with the 40series and getting them to run at higher than 100W??
@bradmorri great job Brad! Yes, I'm sure you can do the same thing 😀
can i do this settings for my Leopard GL75 10SER ?
I really need help i have the msi vector with the same exact hardware 12800hx and a 3070ti can i just copy n paste these and try it? My laptop gpu runs around 86c under load and my cpu around 94-96c at times and goes back down to around 88c or so during gaming
Quick suggestion: If you want to raise the cpu power limit but don't want the cpu to utilize high wattage you can set pl1 and pl2 in the bios, for example my pc has a 45 watt limit on the cpu, I used an Imon slope of 50 and an Imon offset of 19999 and in the bios i set the pl1 and pl2 to 20 so that my cpu can pull more than 45 watts but can't go above 80 watts in order to reduce temp and lower power consumption, hope this helps
Thanks 👍
You said that you tweaked both pl1 and pl2 to 20. I am getting two kinds of pl1 and pl2, one is nominal and the other one is down. Do I need to set both of them to 20? I would genuinely appreciate a reply.
I have a Msi gt77 with 12900hx and 3080ti and I use it for video editing , do you think it’s worth this for getting better performance in premiere pro ?
No, I think what you have is perfectly fine to be honest.
I did the imon tweak and saved the option, now when I wanna start the pc the lights are going on but instant off
Try lowering the settings.
Hi there, for the Imon tweak it shows that I can put up to -63999. Should I put half of my 50% tdp or -31999?
Will receive the laptop in a few weeks but see the temp on those Ryzen 7000HX, it seems a bit high to me. Would you please provide some undervolting config for these CPUs
Yes, I will try out the UXTU/AMD APU tuning utility software . Unfortunately 7045HX Dragon range isn't supported it says.
@@OWNORDISOWN I read that too but thank you anyway 😄
Can i do that with i5 10500h gtx 1650
does this work for msi center :( i have a thin gf63 laptop
Hi great video, I've an MSI Stealth 16 Studio with an i7-13700h, had been applying undervolting through bios for a few months now; didn't knew that MSI ring setting corresponded to cpu cache thank u for that..
As from previous experience, I have best performance and stability applying the same undervolt to Processor(core) and uncore to -75mv.
Then, to E-Core and Ring(cache) I have them set to -25mv. [Just posted here the values in case someone have my laptop].
Other thing I don't happen to understand is why in my bios the memory configuration seems to be disabled, so I'm unable to modify the timing and all the parameters; instead I can only modify the max frequency which if I do I just brick the bios and have to reset... don't know if this is disabled due to having the factory ram or what but I don't thing so because the memory sticks support up to 5600mhz and my bios sets them 5200mhz...
Thanks for sharing your settings 👍
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I have a Gp66 with 12700H processor. I was told that it is locked and can't undervolt. Do the other tweaks work?
I'll check the BIOS again.
I suspect it may be locked out but you can try the advanced BIOS. Does the IMON slope/offset option show up?
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Thanks Teddy!
@@OWNORDISOWN It was really helpful as it confirmed what I was about to change was the right thing to do. I might try 100 on the GT77 and see how it goes. It's been an amazing machine.
@teddym2808 yes, I think you made the right choice Teddy. The GT77 is a beast 😀
@@OWNORDISOWN Yeah I got past lack of g-sync and just use adaptive sync instead in Optimus mode. I haven't noticed a performance loss compared to dGPU mode. The only time piping through the Intel iGPU is a bottleneck is with really high FPS games, but playing at 4K ultra or even 1440P ultra I get the same FPS in dGPU mode that I do in Optimus, so I have just permanently left it in Optimus mode. Adaptive sync is actually working really really well, but in future I would still prefer g-sync. I know it's a stupid thing to care about on a massive desktop replacement but even battery life is good if you put it in iGPU mode. I got 6 hours watching Netflix, that's pretty darn good for what it is.
I do like that you have a dedicated iGPU mode that completely disabled the Nvidia GPU for those times you might need battery.
Besides some flaws that everyone has, for example driver issues with speaker pops, it's all been good. Very enjoyable kb to type on, great performance, it's been great overall. Cheers!
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what imon offset should i use i have intel core i7-10750H and also what underfoot should i do
undervolt offset* and since my cpu is 45W what is the slope i should do and imon offset*
i dont see a overclock option sadly
can i do this on my 10th gen i5 ???
Thin GF63 12VE i5 12450H working ???
Help! I reduced the voltage as in the video but now My laptop wont turn on! The screen doesnt show anything, the keyboard turns on for a few seconds and than it turns off. Cant enter BIOS again
You will need to reset the bios. Try keeping the power button pressed for over 30 seconds. It should restart
Isn't it a coincidence that I Just bought a msi gp68hx 😂.
Nice! Time to get tweaking :)
Same here
Did this today and now the laptop screen wpnt boot up. Just gets stuck in a loop with nothing on screen
You should be able to reset the Bios by pressing the power button for at least 30 seconds
@OWNORDISOWN
Okay thank you do I need to remove battery or anything before hand?
No, just keep it pressed down. I've had to do it a few times before on my MSI laptop. If I recall, keep it pressed until it restarts. Let me know how you get on.
My laptop has no signal after that settings, what i need To do?
If I recall, to reset the bios keep the power button pressed for at least 30 seconds
6:06 How did you make the cpu on stock bios arrive at 95w with the gpu at 130w too? in my laptop (ge67hx) when the gpu is in full load, the cpu does not go over than 55w.
I think there must have been an update pushed by MSI because when I first got it, even in a CPU only load it struggled to hold 115w.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thanks for the reply and your time, strange because in my case when the CPU works alone it can arrives at max 137w but when the gpu works together no matter what the cpu never goes more than 55w, also when the gpu is in low usage. About the update that you mentioned it is a bios update? because I already did all the updates that the laptop request to do so I suppose it is some manual update that I need tho check in the msi's website. Greetings from Brazil
@matheusmarcellos1374 I'll check to see what my BIOS is compared to what's on their website. I don't recall updating it but I have done so many updates on so many machines its easy to lose track, lol. There were a bunch of control center updates of course.
You can try the imon tweak, that will stop it throttling down to its base TDP.
@matheusmarcellos1374 I checked my BIOS and it's still the original 108.
One thing to note, shadow of the tomb raider likes a fast CPU, that's why I picked it. So that may be why it's using more power. Try a game like Far Cry/battlefield
hahah I feel you, thank you for your attention and help, I appreciate your time. keep the good work. greetings
Hi. Would that work msi gf66 i7 3060 rtx, 11840?
I'm afraid you will need an HX processor. Intel locked the others down. You can try an undervolt and see. You can overclock your video card of course.
How to do this on gf63? I don’t get the same options
I believe you may need an HX processor, although one of my subscribers managed to unlock the advanced Bios on his nitro 5 and do it.
I have gp66 and my laptop dont open save this settings pls help.. no screen and no bios
just do a CMOS reset, it is still savable, my laptop did this 3 times xd
I think doesn't work with GE76 i7 12700H cause these processors are locked by default 🙁🙁🙁
Yeah, i believe you need an HX processor.
@@OWNORDISOWNUnfortunately cannot undervolt or tweak these CPUs. Can only reduce the cores ratios, the PL1 & PL2, in order to assist with the performance and keep low the temps somehow. Tnx for the reply
Do these work on msi gs65 thin 8rf
You should be able to get into the advanced Bios OK, just not sure what options you have. Remember to make gradual changes and if your system freezes or fails to boot up I found that long pressing the power button for at least 30 seconds clears everything
I did this and my computer crashed after I saved the settings and reset it
Did you get your machine back up and running? It's always best to do one change at a time until you know it is stable
i need help I do the undervolt and when it restarted I didn't get image om getting scared I force stop but nothing it don't show anything pls help I think I ruined my lap
You can reset the bios by long pressing the power button for at least 30 seconds. Let me know how you get on.
@@OWNORDISOWN I research with a lot of videos idk why it didnt work for me but i reset the Bios with the battery icon and a clip still didnt get image, but later i see a tutorial i have to turn off and down around 7 times and idk how but it worked, the guy says it was a normal error for some msi laptops when you try to undervolt
@@VictorCastillo-og6qpglad you got it back up and running!
Dude what you did to my laptop . It's not starting 😭 someone help
You have to remove the cmos battery
How about for i9 3980hx?
What about it? It can be undervolted and the imon tweak can trick it into not throttling.
please someone what imon settings should i have for 45W cpu???
My friend managed to do the IMON tweak on his Niro 5 . His CPU is the 12650H and he set the IMON slope to 50 and the offset to -31999
@@OWNORDISOWN do you know what undervolt he set at?
I would appreciate it if you could help me overclock my laptop. There is no option like yours.
Msi Alpah 15 B5eek rayzen 7 5500 rx 6600m 16 gb ram 3200 mhz
Your best bet would be to use MSI afterburner and overckock the 6600m
Unable to change settings in Afterburner, buttons seem inactive
@@OWNORDISOWN Unfortunately AMD does not support easy OC or UV on the CPU and GPU. Thats why I consider them worse than nvidia.
help my laptop doesnt turn on anymore
Try pressing the power button for at least 60 seconds. It should reboot and clear the bios
Hi. Maybe u know wtf with my laptop? I have my original charger was dead. I got another one the same nodel. Thats works perfectly. But my laptop become superslow. Like pentium 4. Its feels like battery mode is turned on. But its not. I'm already factory reseted but it's not helped. God damn.
That sucks. I assume it is still slow when on battery? Wonder if it is your SSD playing up? If thermals are OK and the CPU power and clocks look OK then I would try cloning your C drive onto another ssd. Remove the original and boot off the new ssd.
Make sure it's not something else first. I remember once my CPU was pegged at like 768 MHz. Can't remember what I did to fix it. Think it was a bios update.
@OWNORDISOWN that was power adapter malfunction. I got new one and now it's working fast)
@@MillionMilesTV glad you got it sorted
I dont see the option
You need an HX processor. What processor do you have?
@@OWNORDISOWN core i5-12450H
@@Wyakuro yeah, unfortunately Intel locked that CPU down
Hi Sir. I need your help to fix overheating in my laptop. I have sent you an email regarding this. Can you please take some time out to help me. Much appreciated. 😊
Clean dust, repaste, prop up, undervolt the CPU if possible and gpu, cap CPU TDP, get throttlestop and set speedshift to 135 or so, etc.
The most likely cause is dried thermal paste. Remove the cooling apparatus and repaste. Take care not to bend the heat pipes
My pc is dead😭
If your MSI laptop won't boot, keep the power button pressed for at least 30 seconds. That will clear the bios
It doesn’t let me open advance BIOS
That's strange. It's worked on all the MSI laptops I have had.
Hello sir ! If you can help me i will appreciate it! Just sub , great content 👍
So i have a GL66 I7-12700H and i have this problem in my power plan after the last bios update , around 6 months behind!
I had my windows 11 power plan set to extreme performance but after the update i got only balance mode! I tried almost everything possible, ms-dos power plan commands checked the bios and still cant get the other power plan if just the balance one !?? In your opinion what i can do !! I call Msi center and they said its not not normal and i had to send to them ! 😮😢 Thanks and keep the good job mate 👍💪👌💯
Thanks for the sub! I had this problem too once if I recall. I did find this solution, it was one of these threads that helped me. I think it was the first one :
www.elevenforum.com/t/create-custom-power-plan-in-windows-11.6902/
www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-restore-missing-default-power-plans-in-windows-10
www.elevenforum.com/t/restore-missing-power-plans-in-windows-11.6898/
www.thewindowsclub.com/specify-custom-active-power-plan-windows
Hope one of them helps!
@@OWNORDISOWN I wil try this sir, thanks for your attention and i wish you the best of success in work and in live ! Mutch love 💪💯👍
@@luispedras9560good luck, let me know how you make out 👍