Tbf you need time to get from the locker room to the ring and they thought (in kayfabe) that the Elite would talk sense to Jack that's why they didn't save him in time
You're saying that like there were no McMahon (plural) matches in WWE EDIT: Because y'all can't understand what plural means. I'm talking about Shane and Stephanie. Even Vince was not great in the ring. A good character, sure. In-ring performer, nah
@@HellShootdifference being WWE had the screw job being the catalyst for Vince having real heat which they used well to create the attitude era and continue to use his character into the mid 2000s. WCW just tried to copy that in a failed attempt with bad context. AEW is attempting the same thing
Finally something to look forward to. Hopefully they don't end this angle like they did the MJF and devil angle that went anywhere and Adam Cole didn't even become a big star out of it. Hopefully we're going somewhere now.
I'm fairly certain this was done to write Tony off of TV for a bit. The Young Bucks attacked him to injure him and get him out so they can run amok in the company with no one to answer to. Kenny's returning next week. He's gonna be the onoy good guy left to oppose the Bucks.
The bucks beef is even more justified than JP. Not only due to brawl in but Tony brought cm punk in behind their backs and gave him his show. And again Punk stabbed AEW brand in the back. Bucks are justifiably vengeful
I actually see Tony Khan not appearing on AEW in future. He will hire a group or an authority figure to take over. Also, Kenny Omega will be on Dynamite next week. How does he factor into this?
Im thinking the same. Tk could be like dr claw from inspector gadget just behind the scenes not showing his face maybe he will have scott d amour take his place as boss
I see Tony Khan more as a plot device than a character. He was the metaphorical “Wall” The new Elite needed to tear down so they could take control of the company. he may appear maybe like once every few weeks during this story but he’s not going to be the focal point and I don’t think he would want to be.
you could say the bucks felt betrayed with tony suspending them for brawl out and not firing punk in the first place or they could say "we always wanted power in aew this is our company and tony got too comfortable in that president role and he had to go."
This has my interest. I want to see where this goes next. This could be pretty cool. I do hope they do explain why the Bucks turned on Tony. I'm not so sure Tony will be a recurring character on tv but we'll see.
Honestly bro feel like AEW did that segment out of desperation, i don't think this was a long time booking thing & i can see them making things up as they go. Hopefully AEW gets back on track but won't hold my breathe on it man, seems like AEWs best days are behind them
Honestly I think AEW is hitting its stride again. I love everything involving Toni Storm & Mariah Maye. I enjoy Willow & Swerve. And now this new Tony Khan vs Rhe Bucks storyline is about to start cooking imo. I have been critical as well about lack of storylines but they got me invested rn
I have a feeling this is finally going to give AEW something they have needed. Two of them…A Heel Authority Figure(s) & An Overarching Story. An Elite/AEW Roster Civil War
As someone who honestly has no interest in this story. Here's my thoughts. This is not groundbreaking... at all we've seen this so many times. However I will agree with you that if done right it can be interesting.
The biggest problem with this whole premise is that Tony doesn't realize that HE'S the heel in this situation. He overreacted to a fight and suspended the victim. He's also a weasley, wimpy, billionaire. None of that makes a sympathetic character. In the broadcast footage the crowd sounds mixed, but I saw live footage from somebody's phone, and when Tony got dropped, many in the crowd CHEERED. Vince knew that in general, people have a grudge against a boss figure, so he accepted his role in the Kayfabe company. I don't think Tony's capable of doing the same.
Are we really supposed to believe that the Bucks and Jack Perry are intimidating? 😂😂 They'd be a little more believable if they had a big guy, like an enforcer
@@greenrandall143 height wise yes, but he's still a big Samoan, I wouldn't want to Fck with Solo, the Bucks and Perry I wouldn't be intimidated, I still think it could work if they just have one guy who you would believe can beat a whole lot of people up for them, too bad Wardlow is stuck in the Kingdom, or someone like big Bill
Tony is kinda milking wwe superstars that get fired like they would milk Jon moxley at the main event a lot sometimes and Tony is just waiting for a wwe guy to get fired just to milk them
Finally we have a promising story, FINGERS CROSSED tho they let their writers work and capitalize on this leading even to All In. We deserve Okada vs Omega on a massive stage
Tony Khan was kinda good when he was doing that condescending but still good guy stuff when the AEW/Impact stuff was happening. That one promo he cut on Nick Khan was not terrible either.
They have beef with Tony Khan because he brought on cm punk. Aew was a show about wrestling and being the elite and Tony decided against all others to sign punk, which to me gave me idea that the young bucks and aew weren't enough. Tony changed the show from the elite show to tonys aew. As well possibly driving there best friend Cody out of the business. Thus show wasn't suppose to have a boss like Vince McMahon but yet the cm punk story made Tony be the boss which changed are perspective overall. Also I love this storyline because the elite are trying to take back what was there's. They started aew. Four friends which we Kenny Cody, nd the bucks. Now four friends are changing the wrestling world forever by brining back the old aew just as the new elite. I also think this is how they get Tony possibly out of the picture full time.
Im not the biggest AEW fan, I dont watch their weekly shows but i do try to stay updated and watch the good parts. I’ve been watching wwe since 2009, so by no means am I a AEW shill. But yall really hate anything they be doing lol. The segment was pretty good and accomplished what it set out to do, get people talking. Even legit news outlets are covering this. No shit Tony cant sell, he not a wrestler but Vince and Bischoff couldn’t sell for shit back in thr day either. Lets let this play out. Yall wanted more angles and now you got them. Come on guys
I think young bucks have beef with tony because their new characters are about being in charge, so the power is getting to their head and they in a way want to run the show
I hope TK on-screen apperance is restricted. This is definitely game changing moment for AEW and a AEW civil war for that matter. Let see what kenny omega does next week. By the way check out OC-trent feud and mone-willow-stat storyline. Then there is Copeland-HOB feud that will start on collision.
I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but if the storyline is the Elite vs Tony Khan. And they are mad at Tony for punishing them and taking away there opportunities and championships. I’m actually fine with them showing the footage, but they should’ve done it after they attacked Tony Khan.
Ok. So lets try to make sense of this. Tony Khan fired Punk woth cause because Punk "lunged" at him and made him fear for his life. However, Jack Perry punches him, and The Bucks do a TK Driver and won't be fired. I know the Punk part was real, and what happened last week was planned, but if Tony made the Punk situation part of the story, how do you justify not firing with cause everyone that attacked you? Wouldn't that attack also fear for your safety? Also, does this angle makes them showing the All In footage make sense or was this angle a way for them to make it make sense?
None of this feels groundbreaking.... It's not even a Vince situation where Mr. McMahon was actually a detestable heel getting his comeuppance by Stone Cold. TK (despite his on screen awkwardness), is presented as a man of the people, giving the fans what they wanted out of wrestling. Sure, he made Jack Perry a scapegoat by banishing him from AEW for 9 months in storyline but it's not like Vince turning heel by screwing Brett Hart. Tony was justified in doing so. So attacking him in retaliation when he made amends with Jack (with no one saving him in time) or even attempting to assassinate his character going forward makes zero sense. And all for what?
Do I need to see Tony Khan wrestle a match? Fuck no please dear god no. But using the boss as a tool to build heels or stables or what have you every once and a while is fresh and exciting and I love it.
It's like the Matt Edge Lots storyline. Use real shit, use real backstage shit, to use for storyline. I haven't really paid attention til now. Jack Perry I kept an eye on in njpw. Jack is sick for using real life situation for storyline. Trents heel turn , this elite storyline was needed as AEW got stale. Now, I will watch again
I do hope this angle does help AEW, but it feels weird having Tony Khan now as a character just because he's an awkward guy. He doesn't look physically able to do stuff in the ring unless they pull a David Arquette. I don't know how much Khan will play a factor in this storyline since he doesn't have a much to show, nor he has the promo skills to really sell a match unless some of the wrestlers can train him on promo skills and taking bumps.
Why did Tony fall back like he got punched in the face or clotheslined? Like dude seriously a guy punch will have you doubled over and falling forward or rolling back holding your stomach. That made me cringe. Jack Perry just doesn’t scream main eventer there’s just nothing interesting about him. He has to use CM Punk to get over. Young Bucks have shown lately they’re super cringe.
I feel like this is selective from yesterday show are we not gonna talk bout Swerve winnin the biggest title and havin a small match for no reason😂then Chris to have a “celebration” for the MID CARD title that NOBODY was happy for him to win
So he broadcasts footage of a former employee attacking another, yells at you, fear for yer life an gets fired... to work into a story in which you get attacked by employees, the closing angle caused interest but not necessarily starting on the best foot storytelling wise
There is four stories happening in aew the best friends Don Carlos family might split up/ will not using his move and whatever the hell Jericho's doing
I think thats why I'm so off with North American wrestling, I just hate hardcore soap opera (which is why I ignore WWE). I just like the sports presentation feel of wrestling which is why I feel like the United States scene isn't for me anymore.
I appreciate that they are trying to do a story, but, in my opinion, this shit sucks. This roster has so many great storytellers and people who can cut promos. Why do they need to center the story around Tony Khan. I just dont get it and this kinda pushed me even further away from AEW. TK has change the channel heat from me and the Bucks and Jack Perry are getting there too. I'm probably just gonna stick to the indies and occasionally watch WWE.
Tony kinda sucks but man i want Aew to thrive,it would make wwe try even harder and we as fans get filled with great shows and aew has so many amazing guy's as well no matter how much of a wwe fanboy you are,you have to admit that.
The best part is that Okada just kinda stood there and watched😂
AEW in Daily's Place is basically their "Impact Zone."
Had Tony’s dad like “how can they slap? HOW CAN THEY SLAP?!?!” 👨🏾🦳
Yo, I get that meme 😂😂😂
Tony took that mic hit like he got shot 😂
RICKY 🗣
@@Sooplex680k viewers lowest since 2021 😂😂😂 can't call this arse good quality
It was a great sell.
@@Sooplex *Saxaphone starts playin n tha background
@@LouDawg2175 Followed by slow motion silence...
Tony:Gets beat up
Everyone backstage:No help
The elite:Leaves
Everyone backstage: *RUN TO HELP HIM*
Tbf you need time to get from the locker room to the ring and they thought (in kayfabe) that the Elite would talk sense to Jack that's why they didn't save him in time
Even as an AEW fan They should have put Tony khan through a flaming table
A flaming barbed wire table with thumbtacks underneath.
@@TheDatabaseNetwork damn if TK gets more on screen time in the future we should be booking AEW
They were but they wanted Tony to be ok for the NFL draft
I did it for CM Punk
If Tony gets in the ring to wrestle a match, then they’ve hit the WCW 2000 basement.
You're saying that like there were no McMahon (plural) matches in WWE
EDIT: Because y'all can't understand what plural means. I'm talking about Shane and Stephanie. Even Vince was not great in the ring. A good character, sure. In-ring performer, nah
@@HellShootdifference being WWE had the screw job being the catalyst for Vince having real heat which they used well to create the attitude era and continue to use his character into the mid 2000s. WCW just tried to copy that in a failed attempt with bad context. AEW is attempting the same thing
@@HellShootThe McMahon character is light-years ahead any poo 💩 Tony Khan can create
@@HellShoot McMahon could wrestle. Not very well but he could do it. Tony probably rehearsed that gut sell and still looked distractingly bad
Y'all talking about Vince while forgetting about Stephanie or Shane. SMH
TK selling better than the entire roster 😂
Tony sold that initial gut punch like he was going to shoot copies out of his ass!
Ngl Tony khan dad looks like Mario 😂
My man jack looks homeless
I bet your friend is Luchasaurus lol
😂😂
As a fellow long curly hair guy, the hairs looking good bro.
I loved it, a bit of fun and hopefully it gets a great storyline. Wasn’t expecting it, was just buzzing to see Jack back, then a madness happened 😂😂
The face team is gonna be Motor City Machine Guns, it doesn't make sense for it to be them but I just got that feeling.
Now that Swerve is champion, I'd love to see him feud with the elite. Swerve vs Okada would be awesome.
Finally something to look forward to. Hopefully they don't end this angle like they did the MJF and devil angle that went anywhere and Adam Cole didn't even become a big star out of it. Hopefully we're going somewhere now.
I’d definitely be fan if they did this to Tony week after week. Just name the segments Tony must pay for his crimes and it’s television gold!!!
“I was busy”= I had a shawty next to me
TK ain't a Vince level character. Hope for the best tho.
I'm fairly certain this was done to write Tony off of TV for a bit. The Young Bucks attacked him to injure him and get him out so they can run amok in the company with no one to answer to.
Kenny's returning next week. He's gonna be the onoy good guy left to oppose the Bucks.
The bucks beef is even more justified than JP. Not only due to brawl in but Tony brought cm punk in behind their backs and gave him his show. And again Punk stabbed AEW brand in the back. Bucks are justifiably vengeful
Don't think they're gonna do a storyline based on Punk
They're supposed to be heels why are you pretending them as babyfaces lmao
I'm honestly just so happy that I'm excited about aew and wwe at the same time.
It’s not industry changing it’s the same as Vince taking the stunner. Nothing changed
TK is finally pulling a Vince McMahon and I'm happy he's doing it.
I actually see Tony Khan not appearing on AEW in future. He will hire a group or an authority figure to take over. Also, Kenny Omega will be on Dynamite next week. How does he factor into this?
Im thinking the same. Tk could be like dr claw from inspector gadget just behind the scenes not showing his face maybe he will have scott d amour take his place as boss
I see Tony Khan more as a plot device than a character. He was the metaphorical “Wall” The new Elite needed to tear down so they could take control of the company. he may appear maybe like once every few weeks during this story but he’s not going to be the focal point and I don’t think he would want to be.
One of the buck split their pants lmao
I'm a WWE mark, but I'm so happy to hear AEW do good. I wanna see more great wrestling regardless of where it comes from.
You sir have a new subscriber in me 😎💪🏼
you could say the bucks felt betrayed with tony suspending them for brawl out and not firing punk in the first place or they could say "we always wanted power in aew this is our company and tony got too comfortable in that president role and he had to go."
Still it makes no sense
Aew booking at its finest
The story is promising, I like the stuff going on with Ospreay and Callis too.
TK took the hit they wanted to give Phil
This has my interest. I want to see where this goes next. This could be pretty cool. I do hope they do explain why the Bucks turned on Tony. I'm not so sure Tony will be a recurring character on tv but we'll see.
ngl honestly i loved it, it got me interested in jack perry
The Bucks want AEW to be what it was supposed to be
Honestly bro feel like AEW did that segment out of desperation, i don't think this was a long time booking thing & i can see them making things up as they go. Hopefully AEW gets back on track but won't hold my breathe on it man, seems like AEWs best days are behind them
Honestly I think AEW is hitting its stride again. I love everything involving Toni Storm & Mariah Maye. I enjoy Willow & Swerve. And now this new Tony Khan vs Rhe Bucks storyline is about to start cooking imo. I have been critical as well about lack of storylines but they got me invested rn
I don't make much money, but i swear i will buy the next PPV if i hear tony khan speak the words "NO MORE MR NICE GUY!"
I have a feeling this is finally going to give AEW something they have needed. Two of them…A Heel Authority Figure(s) & An Overarching Story.
An Elite/AEW Roster Civil War
Industry changing? 😂. Interesting story? Yes and there is a chance for this to be big IF ITS DONE RIGHT. That will be the x factor
As someone who honestly has no interest in this story. Here's my thoughts. This is not groundbreaking... at all we've seen this so many times. However I will agree with you that if done right it can be interesting.
@@iamtriston666680k viewers from last night Dynamite 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I watch aew and WWE
I just wish they would've put more attention on swerve he had a really big win hope it gets better
i want to see what happen after this
Tony khan has good guy appeal which I think could come off on screen
Okada vs Tony Khan all in! New champ 😂
Tony Khan needs a good year at the WWE performance center 🤣
The biggest problem with this whole premise is that Tony doesn't realize that HE'S the heel in this situation. He overreacted to a fight and suspended the victim. He's also a weasley, wimpy, billionaire. None of that makes a sympathetic character.
In the broadcast footage the crowd sounds mixed, but I saw live footage from somebody's phone, and when Tony got dropped, many in the crowd CHEERED.
Vince knew that in general, people have a grudge against a boss figure, so he accepted his role in the Kayfabe company. I don't think Tony's capable of doing the same.
I won’t be surprise if Tony end up join the elite
Are we really supposed to believe that the Bucks and Jack Perry are intimidating? 😂😂 They'd be a little more believable if they had a big guy, like an enforcer
Solo is smaller then them and he still worked well as a enforcer
@@greenrandall143 Solo is believable as an enforcer, none of the Elite are, but who could they use right now
@@jonmarrie9469 how tho. You said there size was the problem, but solo is smaller then all 4 men,
@@greenrandall143 height wise yes, but he's still a big Samoan, I wouldn't want to Fck with Solo, the Bucks and Perry I wouldn't be intimidated, I still think it could work if they just have one guy who you would believe can beat a whole lot of people up for them, too bad Wardlow is stuck in the Kingdom, or someone like big Bill
Okada isn’t a small guy
If it involves Jack, and Tony in the same story then I’m still very uninterested.
Aew tryna get that attitude era when Austin stunner Vince & elite turning into nwo
@sooplex I’m starting to feel it’s a way to have Kenny separated from the Bucks and even reignite his feud with Okada
Tony is kinda milking wwe superstars that get fired like they would milk Jon moxley at the main event a lot sometimes and Tony is just waiting for a wwe guy to get fired just to milk them
Tony is either going to the next Vince McMahon or Vince Russo
lol what’s up with the Michale Jackson Curl Gang?
Finally we have a promising story, FINGERS CROSSED tho they let their writers work and capitalize on this leading even to All In. We deserve Okada vs Omega on a massive stage
Writers?
@@joshwent is Jennifer Pepperman on her own?
Aew is cooking right now
He definitely feared for his life that night 😂
Final Boss ❤
Who was this....freind you were talking to that wrestles for aew?
I’m really worried that punk will somehow be a talking point in this storyline
Tony Khan was kinda good when he was doing that condescending but still good guy stuff when the AEW/Impact stuff was happening. That one promo he cut on Nick Khan was not terrible either.
They have beef with Tony Khan because he brought on cm punk. Aew was a show about wrestling and being the elite and Tony decided against all others to sign punk, which to me gave me idea that the young bucks and aew weren't enough. Tony changed the show from the elite show to tonys aew. As well possibly driving there best friend Cody out of the business. Thus show wasn't suppose to have a boss like Vince McMahon but yet the cm punk story made Tony be the boss which changed are perspective overall. Also I love this storyline because the elite are trying to take back what was there's. They started aew. Four friends which we Kenny Cody, nd the bucks. Now four friends are changing the wrestling world forever by brining back the old aew just as the new elite. I also think this is how they get
Tony possibly out of the picture full time.
Im not the biggest AEW fan, I dont watch their weekly shows but i do try to stay updated and watch the good parts. I’ve been watching wwe since 2009, so by no means am I a AEW shill. But yall really hate anything they be doing lol. The segment was pretty good and accomplished what it set out to do, get people talking. Even legit news outlets are covering this. No shit Tony cant sell, he not a wrestler but Vince and Bischoff couldn’t sell for shit back in thr day either. Lets let this play out. Yall wanted more angles and now you got them. Come on guys
I think young bucks have beef with tony because their new characters are about being in charge, so the power is getting to their head and they in a way want to run the show
I hope TK on-screen apperance is restricted. This is definitely game changing moment for AEW and a AEW civil war for that matter. Let see what kenny omega does next week. By the way check out OC-trent feud and mone-willow-stat storyline. Then there is Copeland-HOB feud that will start on collision.
I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but if the storyline is the Elite vs Tony Khan. And they are mad at Tony for punishing them and taking away there opportunities and championships. I’m actually fine with them showing the footage, but they should’ve done it after they attacked Tony Khan.
Ok. So lets try to make sense of this. Tony Khan fired Punk woth cause because Punk "lunged" at him and made him fear for his life. However, Jack Perry punches him, and The Bucks do a TK Driver and won't be fired. I know the Punk part was real, and what happened last week was planned, but if Tony made the Punk situation part of the story, how do you justify not firing with cause everyone that attacked you? Wouldn't that attack also fear for your safety?
Also, does this angle makes them showing the All In footage make sense or was this angle a way for them to make it make sense?
None of this feels groundbreaking.... It's not even a Vince situation where Mr. McMahon was actually a detestable heel getting his comeuppance by Stone Cold.
TK (despite his on screen awkwardness), is presented as a man of the people, giving the fans what they wanted out of wrestling. Sure, he made Jack Perry a scapegoat by banishing him from AEW for 9 months in storyline but it's not like Vince turning heel by screwing Brett Hart. Tony was justified in doing so. So attacking him in retaliation when he made amends with Jack (with no one saving him in time) or even attempting to assassinate his character going forward makes zero sense.
And all for what?
The five minutes between Perry hitting TK to Bucks also hitting TK and no one comes out...not until AFTER 🤦🏼 it was more comical to me than dramatic.
Do I need to see Tony Khan wrestle a match? Fuck no please dear god no. But using the boss as a tool to build heels or stables or what have you every once and a while is fresh and exciting and I love it.
Makes sense, Jack almost lost his career
It's like the Matt Edge Lots storyline. Use real shit, use real backstage shit, to use for storyline. I haven't really paid attention til now. Jack Perry I kept an eye on in njpw. Jack is sick for using real life situation for storyline. Trents heel turn , this elite storyline was needed as AEW got stale. Now, I will watch again
Tony Khan be trying to recreate wwe history. Next it's gonna be "It was me Moxley. It was me all along." Lol.
Releasing the footage exposes Punk as a hypocrite, it is good television
”Industry changing” = Doing what WWE did in 1997
I do hope this angle does help AEW, but it feels weird having Tony Khan now as a character just because he's an awkward guy. He doesn't look physically able to do stuff in the ring unless they pull a David Arquette. I don't know how much Khan will play a factor in this storyline since he doesn't have a much to show, nor he has the promo skills to really sell a match unless some of the wrestlers can train him on promo skills and taking bumps.
Is it spicing it up is the question and I bet you know someone who used to work for new japan
This is reaching beyond bloodline levels of greatness. You’re friend wasn’t lying about groundbreaking
😂😂
Finally 😂
Why did Tony fall back like he got punched in the face or clotheslined? Like dude seriously a guy punch will have you doubled over and falling forward or rolling back holding your stomach. That made me cringe. Jack Perry just doesn’t scream main eventer there’s just nothing interesting about him. He has to use CM Punk to get over. Young Bucks have shown lately they’re super cringe.
I feel like this is selective from yesterday show are we not gonna talk bout Swerve winnin the biggest title and havin a small match for no reason😂then Chris to have a “celebration” for the MID CARD title that NOBODY was happy for him to win
Swerve will speak on collision
So he broadcasts footage of a former employee attacking another, yells at you, fear for yer life an gets fired... to work into a story in which you get attacked by employees, the closing angle caused interest but not necessarily starting on the best foot storytelling wise
What was that weird piledriver front flip even suppose to be..
Hear me out Kenny MJF FTR Or SAMMY & Darby Vs The ELITE Forbidden Door
That sounds so epic
Tony should hit Nick Jackson with the canadian destroyer
Great show
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There is four stories happening in aew the best friends Don Carlos family might split up/ will not using his move and whatever the hell Jericho's doing
I think thats why I'm so off with North American wrestling, I just hate hardcore soap opera (which is why I ignore WWE). I just like the sports presentation feel of wrestling which is why I feel like the United States scene isn't for me anymore.
Khan appointed punk in the first place, the bucks want aew to be the way it was before punk.
Omega and Page could join tony being kicked from Elite
AEW can get good stories going but they end up ruining it in a few weeks. TK taking a bumb isn't game changing tho
No Milly Order
Am I supposed to believe Jack Perry is cool and or dangerous?
Honestly I'm just frustrated that Jack Perry was one of the reasons Punk got fumbled and it feels like they're rewarding him for it.
I appreciate that they are trying to do a story, but, in my opinion, this shit sucks. This roster has so many great storytellers and people who can cut promos. Why do they need to center the story around Tony Khan. I just dont get it and this kinda pushed me even further away from AEW. TK has change the channel heat from me and the Bucks and Jack Perry are getting there too. I'm probably just gonna stick to the indies and occasionally watch WWE.
Tony kinda sucks but man i want Aew to thrive,it would make wwe try even harder and we as fans get filled with great shows and aew has so many amazing guy's as well no matter how much of a wwe fanboy you are,you have to admit that.
Saddam Hussein is All Elite🎉🎉🎉
Mic drop 😅
Shahid came out with a look like this my money going to this goofy ass shit?